SWINDON TOWN: Championship Wolves keen on Collins switch

Swindon Advertiser: James Collins, right, in action James Collins, right, in action

JAMES Collins is the subject of transfer interest from Wolverhampton Wanderers, the Advertiser understands.

The striker only arrived at the County Ground from Shrewsbury in the summer for a fee decided by tribunal to be £140,000 plus add-ons but his goalscoring exploits this season are believed to have attracted the attention of Wolves manager Dean Saunders.

The former Doncaster boss is understood to have been impressed by Collins’ hat-trick at Stoke and four-goal salvo against Portsmouth and, though no formal approach has yet been made, an offer could be forthcoming.

The Adver has also learnt that West Brom have been sending scouts to watch the 22-year-old, who was born and raised in the West Midlands, in action and the Premier League outfit are understood to be monitoring the situation.

Another Swindon Town striker currently coveted by other clubs is out-of-favour frontman Paul Benson. The 33-year-old watched Cheltenham’s 0-0 draw with Rochdale on Friday night as he mulled over a move to Whaddon Road and the Adver has learnt he is now happy to make the switch to the Robins.

The League Two side are understood to be willing to pay a large chunk of Benson’s wages to secure his services on loan until the rest of the season, and Town boss Paolo Di Canio is keen for the former Charlton man to make the move. A deal could be completed in the next couple of days.

Away from the transfer market and into the boardroom, the hunt for a new owner of the Robins continued over the weekend as the Swindon board held talks with those parties keen to take over at SN1.

One domestic consortium is still believed to be the front-runner in the process and due diligence is understood to be well under way, while an initial agreement could be announced this week.

Three other potential buyers, including two foreign parties, have held advanced discussions with Town but it appears the focus is now principally on the one consortium who are furthest along the line with their negotiations.

Finally, Swindon Town’s trip to MK Dons next month is likely to be rescheduled. The visit to stadium:mk on February 16 clashes with the fifth round of the FA Cup, which the Dons reached courtesy of a 4-2 victory at QPR on Saturday.

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7:28am Mon 28 Jan 13

London Red says...

If we are to do a deal it should involve Cassidy
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Straight swap as the upfront fee with us then getting add ons for appearances, goals, promotion and international caps plus a sell on (on both players) would do it for me
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Amazing how this useless lump has been scouted by clubs in the Championship an Premiership!
If we are to do a deal it should involve Cassidy . Straight swap as the upfront fee with us then getting add ons for appearances, goals, promotion and international caps plus a sell on (on both players) would do it for me . Amazing how this useless lump has been scouted by clubs in the Championship an Premiership! London Red

7:34am Mon 28 Jan 13

Haydonender says...

I think a lot of clubs will be circling our players at the minute until the uncertainty of the possible new owners is resolved. Only natural with us doing so well and clubs hoping for a bargain if we can't get new owners in.

I just hope our new owners have the same view on sustainability as Mr Black did until recently (financing a push into the championship with the view that the only way we'll be sustainable is there with a new stadium). If they have the same view as Mr Fitton then we will be back to selling our best assets every year to survive and will have found our level in league 1
I think a lot of clubs will be circling our players at the minute until the uncertainty of the possible new owners is resolved. Only natural with us doing so well and clubs hoping for a bargain if we can't get new owners in. I just hope our new owners have the same view on sustainability as Mr Black did until recently (financing a push into the championship with the view that the only way we'll be sustainable is there with a new stadium). If they have the same view as Mr Fitton then we will be back to selling our best assets every year to survive and will have found our level in league 1 Haydonender

7:36am Mon 28 Jan 13

Rebel_phish says...

"My squad is not for sale at any price"
"My squad is not for sale at any price" Rebel_phish

7:55am Mon 28 Jan 13

doomster says...

Selling now could seriously complicate any takeover. It is affectively asset stripping so doubt it will happen tbh. Not a big deal though IMO williams would be a much bigger loss.
A million should do it.

Sounds like Dean Saunders is putting together a league one squad early.
Selling now could seriously complicate any takeover. It is affectively asset stripping so doubt it will happen tbh. Not a big deal though IMO williams would be a much bigger loss. A million should do it. Sounds like Dean Saunders is putting together a league one squad early. doomster

8:17am Mon 28 Jan 13

LeGod says...

The current squad needs to stay together if the club are serious about gettting to the championship and Collins needs to be part of the squad. He is still a young player and is essential to keep as part of current squad. Wolves are a team in decline would be a bad move although a bigger club than us but it seems as though they are going to be struggling for the rest of this season around the relegation area.
The current squad needs to stay together if the club are serious about gettting to the championship and Collins needs to be part of the squad. He is still a young player and is essential to keep as part of current squad. Wolves are a team in decline would be a bad move although a bigger club than us but it seems as though they are going to be struggling for the rest of this season around the relegation area. LeGod

8:30am Mon 28 Jan 13

Stratton Red says...

London Red wrote:
If we are to do a deal it should involve Cassidy . Straight swap as the upfront fee with us then getting add ons for appearances, goals, promotion and international caps plus a sell on (on both players) would do it for me . Amazing how this useless lump has been scouted by clubs in the Championship an Premiership!
"Useless lump" is very very harsh LR. In that category I would put the likes of Pericard and MaJoker... Collins is certainly not in that category. He was awesome against Stoke and I think just starting to show his potential...
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: If we are to do a deal it should involve Cassidy . Straight swap as the upfront fee with us then getting add ons for appearances, goals, promotion and international caps plus a sell on (on both players) would do it for me . Amazing how this useless lump has been scouted by clubs in the Championship an Premiership![/p][/quote]"Useless lump" is very very harsh LR. In that category I would put the likes of Pericard and MaJoker... Collins is certainly not in that category. He was awesome against Stoke and I think just starting to show his potential... Stratton Red

8:36am Mon 28 Jan 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

21 and useless lump. London that's not your best...

Just shows that Dean Saunders a very good striker indeed despite who he played for, sees something in him. Amazing are manager can sign players that will us a profit despite all the doomsayers.

Agree vultures circling post Black's comments and the FL paper. Hope against hope that the "one" does the deal and we retain our players.

Three points tomorrow night chaps. We'll win the league if we get out of the transfer window unscathed and bought. God, when I put t like that it seems a tad improbable!
21 and useless lump. London that's not your best... Just shows that Dean Saunders a very good striker indeed despite who he played for, sees something in him. Amazing are manager can sign players that will us a profit despite all the doomsayers. Agree vultures circling post Black's comments and the FL paper. Hope against hope that the "one" does the deal and we retain our players. Three points tomorrow night chaps. We'll win the league if we get out of the transfer window unscathed and bought. God, when I put t like that it seems a tad improbable! dreamofacleansheet2

8:41am Mon 28 Jan 13

super reds says...

This 'useless lump' is our top scorer despite starting quite a few from the bench....mmmmm
This 'useless lump' is our top scorer despite starting quite a few from the bench....mmmmm super reds

8:55am Mon 28 Jan 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

Ditto almost all of the above - Collins is far better than many give him credit for and is likely to partner Williams for another 20-30 goals between them this season.....No Sale!!
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As mentioned it wouldn't help the take-over in so far as we want to get promoted but we're willing to sell one of only three out and out forwards - not a good message for a buyer.
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Quoting another esteemed poster:
"Back to Back Promotions - watching the birth of a legend!!"
Ditto almost all of the above - Collins is far better than many give him credit for and is likely to partner Williams for another 20-30 goals between them this season.....No Sale!! ---- As mentioned it wouldn't help the take-over in so far as we want to get promoted but we're willing to sell one of only three out and out forwards - not a good message for a buyer. ---- Quoting another esteemed poster: "Back to Back Promotions - watching the birth of a legend!!" SAPFanSTFC

8:59am Mon 28 Jan 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

super reds wrote:
This 'useless lump' is our top scorer despite starting quite a few from the bench....mmmmm
Think LR meant it as a tongue in cheek bit of sarcasm to the more public doubters
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[quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: This 'useless lump' is our top scorer despite starting quite a few from the bench....mmmmm[/p][/quote]Think LR meant it as a tongue in cheek bit of sarcasm to the more public doubters :-) SAPFanSTFC

9:03am Mon 28 Jan 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

I like Collins, I think he get a bum rap here with PDC, each time he misses he gets treated in the same way Connell used to. He is better than Martin IMO and should start with Williams every game.
I like Collins, I think he get a bum rap here with PDC, each time he misses he gets treated in the same way Connell used to. He is better than Martin IMO and should start with Williams every game. Is that you Lovesey

9:04am Mon 28 Jan 13

LeGod says...

London Red - Harsh words on one of our players and totally disagree with your comments. You need to consider the starts Collins has had and yet he has still scored goals coming off the bench.
Collins is still a young player. Maybe you were one of the ones who didnt want Connell to go you know the forward everyone was raging about who cant get in the bradford team.
Collins is a very good player and he probably wont be as potent as a player for another 12-18 months yet but it would be foolish to let him go.
I hope we can get through this week with all our squad still here but i feel a few vultures will be circling.
London Red - Harsh words on one of our players and totally disagree with your comments. You need to consider the starts Collins has had and yet he has still scored goals coming off the bench. Collins is still a young player. Maybe you were one of the ones who didnt want Connell to go you know the forward everyone was raging about who cant get in the bradford team. Collins is a very good player and he probably wont be as potent as a player for another 12-18 months yet but it would be foolish to let him go. I hope we can get through this week with all our squad still here but i feel a few vultures will be circling. LeGod

9:22am Mon 28 Jan 13

Davidsyrett says...

Collins has improved as the season has gone on, and at only 21 he has a great future in front of him, I find it odd though that he is not a regular starter for us and yet teams in higher leagues are interested!
I cannot see any "swop" deals going ahead, If any of our players are sold I'm sure AB will want to keep the money and let the new owners decide who to bring to the club

My worry would be a late bid for Ritchie or Wes.

LR. I presume that was a tongue in cheek comment about JC!!
Collins has improved as the season has gone on, and at only 21 he has a great future in front of him, I find it odd though that he is not a regular starter for us and yet teams in higher leagues are interested! I cannot see any "swop" deals going ahead, If any of our players are sold I'm sure AB will want to keep the money and let the new owners decide who to bring to the club My worry would be a late bid for Ritchie or Wes. LR. I presume that was a tongue in cheek comment about JC!! Davidsyrett

9:28am Mon 28 Jan 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

On reflection I think London has hooked us all line and sinker....

I doff my cap sir, bit of lack of sleep for me last night.

SAPF if your going to quote me can you get it right. that was so last January!

Back to back to back promotions coming.* He IS a legend!

*subject to us keeping our squad and not going into 'a' word
On reflection I think London has hooked us all line and sinker.... I doff my cap sir, bit of lack of sleep for me last night. SAPF if your going to quote me can you get it right. that was so last January! Back to back to back promotions coming.* He IS a legend! *subject to us keeping our squad and not going into 'a' word dreamofacleansheet2

9:33am Mon 28 Jan 13

Stickshaker says...

......irony eh Tans?
......irony eh Tans? Stickshaker

9:38am Mon 28 Jan 13

mallorca says...

Yes if we get Cassidy in exchange soundsa good deal why did Tranmere not sign him??????
as for Orient game they had few booked plus injuries whats the bet it just might be cancelled water logged pitch.
As for possible investors funny they allways give us a little piece of cheese/a glimmer of hope nothing else.
As to sale of collins or anyone why would it effect pontential investors Pdc is the key
So wait and see ref tomorrows game is it on/off??????
I'd lay money it's cancelled
Yes if we get Cassidy in exchange soundsa good deal why did Tranmere not sign him?????? as for Orient game they had few booked plus injuries whats the bet it just might be cancelled water logged pitch. As for possible investors funny they allways give us a little piece of cheese/a glimmer of hope nothing else. As to sale of collins or anyone why would it effect pontential investors Pdc is the key So wait and see ref tomorrows game is it on/off?????? I'd lay money it's cancelled mallorca

9:39am Mon 28 Jan 13

the don69 says...

Stratton Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
If we are to do a deal it should involve Cassidy . Straight swap as the upfront fee with us then getting add ons for appearances, goals, promotion and international caps plus a sell on (on both players) would do it for me . Amazing how this useless lump has been scouted by clubs in the Championship an Premiership!
"Useless lump" is very very harsh LR. In that category I would put the likes of Pericard and MaJoker... Collins is certainly not in that category. He was awesome against Stoke and I think just starting to show his potential...
You should know LR by now!he's taking the p1ss!no mention of much cash there offering?maybe there trying to get him on the cheap,because the A word was mentioned,Paolo will no doubt tell them where to go and asap!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Stratton Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: If we are to do a deal it should involve Cassidy . Straight swap as the upfront fee with us then getting add ons for appearances, goals, promotion and international caps plus a sell on (on both players) would do it for me . Amazing how this useless lump has been scouted by clubs in the Championship an Premiership![/p][/quote]"Useless lump" is very very harsh LR. In that category I would put the likes of Pericard and MaJoker... Collins is certainly not in that category. He was awesome against Stoke and I think just starting to show his potential...[/p][/quote]You should know LR by now!he's taking the p1ss!no mention of much cash there offering?maybe there trying to get him on the cheap,because the A word was mentioned,Paolo will no doubt tell them where to go and asap!!!!!!!!! the don69

9:41am Mon 28 Jan 13

madterrier says...

I don't get this anti-Collins thing. He has scored a number of quality finishes and shows predatory instincts, and the examples against Stoke and Portsmouth illustrate that well.

Sure he's missed a few sitters, but which strikers don't? Look in the Premiership and you don't have to look far (Torres, Bent, Adebayor, Tevez etc.)

I want to see us develop young players, for the benefit of the playing squad and the club's financial position.
I don't get this anti-Collins thing. He has scored a number of quality finishes and shows predatory instincts, and the examples against Stoke and Portsmouth illustrate that well. Sure he's missed a few sitters, but which strikers don't? Look in the Premiership and you don't have to look far (Torres, Bent, Adebayor, Tevez etc.) I want to see us develop young players, for the benefit of the playing squad and the club's financial position. madterrier

10:11am Mon 28 Jan 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
On reflection I think London has hooked us all line and sinker....

I doff my cap sir, bit of lack of sleep for me last night.

SAPF if your going to quote me can you get it right. that was so last January!

Back to back to back promotions coming.* He IS a legend!

*subject to us keeping our squad and not going into 'a' word
As per above it is very much LR taking the mickey with a bit of humour... :-)
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Like most of us LR knows he'll start firing on all cylinders plus he's made a huge contribution already....it's the understanding between the forwards that I'm enjoying and Williams isn't doing it off his own back.
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Dreamo!!!.....so sorry Sir...I'm just not up with fashions - bit like my dress sense.....just can't find the size 12 1/2 high heel shoes to go with my big hair and leg warmers!!
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I do need to keep up with things - sorry for the misquote!
...and you're right - he is already a legend at STFC and will be remembered for years...my two son's will never forget his touchline antics for sure.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: On reflection I think London has hooked us all line and sinker.... I doff my cap sir, bit of lack of sleep for me last night. SAPF if your going to quote me can you get it right. that was so last January! Back to back to back promotions coming.* He IS a legend! *subject to us keeping our squad and not going into 'a' word[/p][/quote]As per above it is very much LR taking the mickey with a bit of humour... :-) ... Like most of us LR knows he'll start firing on all cylinders plus he's made a huge contribution already....it's the understanding between the forwards that I'm enjoying and Williams isn't doing it off his own back. === === Dreamo!!!.....so sorry Sir...I'm just not up with fashions - bit like my dress sense.....just can't find the size 12 1/2 high heel shoes to go with my big hair and leg warmers!! ----- I do need to keep up with things - sorry for the misquote! ...and you're right - he is already a legend at STFC and will be remembered for years...my two son's will never forget his touchline antics for sure. :-) SAPFanSTFC

10:14am Mon 28 Jan 13

Stilloyal says...

I'll give London red the benifit and say he was trying to wind some of you up and he's done a great job.
Collins will do for me and I don't think he'll be sold just yet. However if he is then bet on us signing Martin on a permanant deal.
I'll give London red the benifit and say he was trying to wind some of you up and he's done a great job. Collins will do for me and I don't think he'll be sold just yet. However if he is then bet on us signing Martin on a permanant deal. Stilloyal

10:39am Mon 28 Jan 13

London Red says...

Guess a lot don't know my feelings on him then - I'm a big fan and have been defedning him all season
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It was certainly made tounge in cheek as in he can't be as bad as a LOT of people have been saying he is if Premiership sides are scouting him
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Shows why Shrews were p1ssed off and went to the Tribunal as £140k could well be an absolute bargain and see another massive profit made
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Sorry Haydoner but that is the way football operates outside the elite (which is very elite as even Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool don't fit into that bracket!)
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Fitton only really sold 3 players in his 4 seasons as Chairman (Cox, Greer and Austin) - but signed a lot lot more than that! (Cox, McNamee, Austin, Caddis, Ferry, Ritchie, Flint to name a few where fees were paid)
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That is how the model works - buy 2 or 3 sell 1 - buy another 2 or 3 - sell another one and so on
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Result - improving squad as you sign more than you sell and improving finances as you make massive profits off the sales - ie. £1m on both Cox and Austin (who yet land even more!)
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Funny how a few forget to remember the 09/10 season - the one where we should have gone up automatically - which actually followed the correct sale of Cox and delivered a profit in the process
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The model can work if managed properly - it was just a shame we had Wilson in his 2nd season and therefor weak management which saw it fall apart
Guess a lot don't know my feelings on him then - I'm a big fan and have been defedning him all season . It was certainly made tounge in cheek as in he can't be as bad as a LOT of people have been saying he is if Premiership sides are scouting him . Shows why Shrews were p1ssed off and went to the Tribunal as £140k could well be an absolute bargain and see another massive profit made . Sorry Haydoner but that is the way football operates outside the elite (which is very elite as even Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool don't fit into that bracket!) . Fitton only really sold 3 players in his 4 seasons as Chairman (Cox, Greer and Austin) - but signed a lot lot more than that! (Cox, McNamee, Austin, Caddis, Ferry, Ritchie, Flint to name a few where fees were paid) . That is how the model works - buy 2 or 3 sell 1 - buy another 2 or 3 - sell another one and so on . Result - improving squad as you sign more than you sell and improving finances as you make massive profits off the sales - ie. £1m on both Cox and Austin (who yet land even more!) . Funny how a few forget to remember the 09/10 season - the one where we should have gone up automatically - which actually followed the correct sale of Cox and delivered a profit in the process . The model can work if managed properly - it was just a shame we had Wilson in his 2nd season and therefor weak management which saw it fall apart London Red

11:20am Mon 28 Jan 13

SeanG92 says...

As one poster said above "My squad is not for sale at any price" is ringing out from Paolo constantly. He wants crazy money, so if its 15mill for ritchie, then Collins is probably worth about 8 mill, add in the Torres/Caroll factor, and I think we should be asking for about 25mill :P
As one poster said above "My squad is not for sale at any price" is ringing out from Paolo constantly. He wants crazy money, so if its 15mill for ritchie, then Collins is probably worth about 8 mill, add in the Torres/Caroll factor, and I think we should be asking for about 25mill :P SeanG92

11:29am Mon 28 Jan 13

LegendSTFC says...

With 3 days left I can't see PDC letting Collins go as there is very little time to bring someone else in, unless he uses the money to keep Martin here. IMO I don't think that is the right move, but we shall see. The boy definitely has the potential to do well higher, its just a matter of whether or not he wants to see out the rest of the season with Town and then play Championship football here?

Onwards and Upwards.
With 3 days left I can't see PDC letting Collins go as there is very little time to bring someone else in, unless he uses the money to keep Martin here. IMO I don't think that is the right move, but we shall see. The boy definitely has the potential to do well higher, its just a matter of whether or not he wants to see out the rest of the season with Town and then play Championship football here? Onwards and Upwards. LegendSTFC

12:19pm Mon 28 Jan 13

mrclick says...

Collins is quality and is not going anywhere, Wolves by the way are shocking I watched them a couple of weeks ago against Blackburn and they were like a school team short on confidence, says a lot about Blackburn who could only draw with them. Collins at 25 would be a real asset and worth some decent cash if he continues his education under Paolo
Collins is quality and is not going anywhere, Wolves by the way are shocking I watched them a couple of weeks ago against Blackburn and they were like a school team short on confidence, says a lot about Blackburn who could only draw with them. Collins at 25 would be a real asset and worth some decent cash if he continues his education under Paolo mrclick

12:20pm Mon 28 Jan 13

ShearerShearer says...

SeanG92 wrote:
As one poster said above "My squad is not for sale at any price" is ringing out from Paolo constantly. He wants crazy money, so if its 15mill for ritchie, then Collins is probably worth about 8 mill, add in the Torres/Caroll factor, and I think we should be asking for about 25mill :P
I read the article where PDC was quoted and I think PDCs comment with regard to Ritchie's value was tongue-in-cheek.
[quote][p][bold]SeanG92[/bold] wrote: As one poster said above "My squad is not for sale at any price" is ringing out from Paolo constantly. He wants crazy money, so if its 15mill for ritchie, then Collins is probably worth about 8 mill, add in the Torres/Caroll factor, and I think we should be asking for about 25mill :P[/p][/quote]I read the article where PDC was quoted and I think PDCs comment with regard to Ritchie's value was tongue-in-cheek. ShearerShearer

12:35pm Mon 28 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Don't see Collins going, a good ploy by Saunders to unsettle the player, but I don't think our manager will be having any of it. Why do the swap when Collins has bought into the whole scene here with the training etc.

As for LR, I think his comment was very t-i-c unlike others who have wanted Collins out for a while. Collins and Williams are a good pair and it may take a while longer for the two to completely gel but its worth waiting for.
Don't see Collins going, a good ploy by Saunders to unsettle the player, but I don't think our manager will be having any of it. Why do the swap when Collins has bought into the whole scene here with the training etc. As for LR, I think his comment was very t-i-c unlike others who have wanted Collins out for a while. Collins and Williams are a good pair and it may take a while longer for the two to completely gel but its worth waiting for. the wizard

1:20pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome?
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If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses.
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For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.
Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome? . If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses. . For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come. Oi Den!

1:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13

RamsburyRed says...

The first thing everyone must know about London Red is that he doesn't slag off our own players. I don't think he'd be that rude even about one he doesn't rate.
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As to the speculation, clearly from a footballing perspective we should aim to keep him - indeed keep the core squad intact - for the promotion push. However, nothing could be clearer from the last two weeks than the fact that money talks, so we'll have to wait and see.
The first thing everyone must know about London Red is that he doesn't slag off our own players. I don't think he'd be that rude even about one he doesn't rate. * As to the speculation, clearly from a footballing perspective we should aim to keep him - indeed keep the core squad intact - for the promotion push. However, nothing could be clearer from the last two weeks than the fact that money talks, so we'll have to wait and see. RamsburyRed

1:42pm Mon 28 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome?
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If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses.
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For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.
Den, we often agree but I really wasn't looking for anything sinister. The press often get hold of these stories while the clubs are trying to keep it quiet. My guess is that Saunders has sung Collins praises and the odd, "well I wouldn't mind him here" and its gone on from that. Only last week there were rumours about Ritchie again, yet STFC say they received no bid, I'll put it down to silly season. I think these stories do unsettle players to a point, and that degree depends on the player. Ritchie has heard it all before so not unsettling to him, Collins ? well only three days to go and if Saunders really, really wanted him I'm sure a bid would have been in long before now. Not so sure about Wolves being a dream move anymore, since Deadly Doug has left its all gone a bit pear shaped.
Still, as the man says , onward and upwards, inwards and outwards, I'm more interested in the take over and has The Trust offered to buy any shares, and did they contribute any of the money that was sent in. I sent my bit directly to finance, after a phone call, so I knew where it was going. Seems a lot of other contributions are tucked up in a bank account which is fine but it didn't help in the crisis at the time as was intended. thats not knocking the Trust, but folk did part with their hard earned cash in the belief it was going to be helping the situation at that time.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome? . If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses. . For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.[/p][/quote]Den, we often agree but I really wasn't looking for anything sinister. The press often get hold of these stories while the clubs are trying to keep it quiet. My guess is that Saunders has sung Collins praises and the odd, "well I wouldn't mind him here" and its gone on from that. Only last week there were rumours about Ritchie again, yet STFC say they received no bid, I'll put it down to silly season. I think these stories do unsettle players to a point, and that degree depends on the player. Ritchie has heard it all before so not unsettling to him, Collins ? well only three days to go and if Saunders really, really wanted him I'm sure a bid would have been in long before now. Not so sure about Wolves being a dream move anymore, since Deadly Doug has left its all gone a bit pear shaped. Still, as the man says , onward and upwards, inwards and outwards, I'm more interested in the take over and has The Trust offered to buy any shares, and did they contribute any of the money that was sent in. I sent my bit directly to finance, after a phone call, so I knew where it was going. Seems a lot of other contributions are tucked up in a bank account which is fine but it didn't help in the crisis at the time as was intended. thats not knocking the Trust, but folk did part with their hard earned cash in the belief it was going to be helping the situation at that time. the wizard

1:57pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

Mate of mine is a Season Ticket holder at Norwich and has just said to me they have an offer accepted for CA, 7million he reckons, with medicals pending...
Mate of mine is a Season Ticket holder at Norwich and has just said to me they have an offer accepted for CA, 7million he reckons, with medicals pending... Is that you Lovesey

2:08pm Mon 28 Jan 13

cornishcrooky says...

As per most updates, I can't see Collins going unless its too good an offer to turn down. There is not much time to bring in a replacement, and with the possible takeover, I doubt Mr Black will want to fork out anything!!

In regards to the takeover, is it just me who has heard that a possible consortium involving Fitton and Wray is the main bidder?
As per most updates, I can't see Collins going unless its too good an offer to turn down. There is not much time to bring in a replacement, and with the possible takeover, I doubt Mr Black will want to fork out anything!! In regards to the takeover, is it just me who has heard that a possible consortium involving Fitton and Wray is the main bidder? cornishcrooky

2:27pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

cornishcrooky wrote:
As per most updates, I can't see Collins going unless its too good an offer to turn down. There is not much time to bring in a replacement, and with the possible takeover, I doubt Mr Black will want to fork out anything!! In regards to the takeover, is it just me who has heard that a possible consortium involving Fitton and Wray is the main bidder?
I have heard that as well, could be just speculation but it did seem odd that Fitton gave that interview last week after being away so long, also Paolo seems very upbeat about it all, which would suggest either major investment and he keeps the players he wants or Wray coming back....
[quote][p][bold]cornishcrooky[/bold] wrote: As per most updates, I can't see Collins going unless its too good an offer to turn down. There is not much time to bring in a replacement, and with the possible takeover, I doubt Mr Black will want to fork out anything!! In regards to the takeover, is it just me who has heard that a possible consortium involving Fitton and Wray is the main bidder?[/p][/quote]I have heard that as well, could be just speculation but it did seem odd that Fitton gave that interview last week after being away so long, also Paolo seems very upbeat about it all, which would suggest either major investment and he keeps the players he wants or Wray coming back.... Is that you Lovesey

2:42pm Mon 28 Jan 13

yearof69 says...

I thought that Dean saunders wants to reduce their playing staff as he thinks it is far too big and the club wants him to get the wage bill down - so hopefully we can keep Collins
I thought that Dean saunders wants to reduce their playing staff as he thinks it is far too big and the club wants him to get the wage bill down - so hopefully we can keep Collins yearof69

3:29pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome?
.
If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses.
.
For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.
Den, we often agree but I really wasn't looking for anything sinister. The press often get hold of these stories while the clubs are trying to keep it quiet. My guess is that Saunders has sung Collins praises and the odd, "well I wouldn't mind him here" and its gone on from that. Only last week there were rumours about Ritchie again, yet STFC say they received no bid, I'll put it down to silly season. I think these stories do unsettle players to a point, and that degree depends on the player. Ritchie has heard it all before so not unsettling to him, Collins ? well only three days to go and if Saunders really, really wanted him I'm sure a bid would have been in long before now. Not so sure about Wolves being a dream move anymore, since Deadly Doug has left its all gone a bit pear shaped.
Still, as the man says , onward and upwards, inwards and outwards, I'm more interested in the take over and has The Trust offered to buy any shares, and did they contribute any of the money that was sent in. I sent my bit directly to finance, after a phone call, so I knew where it was going. Seems a lot of other contributions are tucked up in a bank account which is fine but it didn't help in the crisis at the time as was intended. thats not knocking the Trust, but folk did part with their hard earned cash in the belief it was going to be helping the situation at that time.
Fair enough Wiz. Mind you, Deadly Doug was chairman at Villa, not Wolves!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome? . If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses. . For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.[/p][/quote]Den, we often agree but I really wasn't looking for anything sinister. The press often get hold of these stories while the clubs are trying to keep it quiet. My guess is that Saunders has sung Collins praises and the odd, "well I wouldn't mind him here" and its gone on from that. Only last week there were rumours about Ritchie again, yet STFC say they received no bid, I'll put it down to silly season. I think these stories do unsettle players to a point, and that degree depends on the player. Ritchie has heard it all before so not unsettling to him, Collins ? well only three days to go and if Saunders really, really wanted him I'm sure a bid would have been in long before now. Not so sure about Wolves being a dream move anymore, since Deadly Doug has left its all gone a bit pear shaped. Still, as the man says , onward and upwards, inwards and outwards, I'm more interested in the take over and has The Trust offered to buy any shares, and did they contribute any of the money that was sent in. I sent my bit directly to finance, after a phone call, so I knew where it was going. Seems a lot of other contributions are tucked up in a bank account which is fine but it didn't help in the crisis at the time as was intended. thats not knocking the Trust, but folk did part with their hard earned cash in the belief it was going to be helping the situation at that time.[/p][/quote]Fair enough Wiz. Mind you, Deadly Doug was chairman at Villa, not Wolves! Oi Den!

3:34pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Very good chance of Fitton and Wray being back at the club I reckon.
.
By the way Wiz, when I said "dream move" for Collins, I really meant the opportunity to play for his hometown club. I would see it as similar to a Swindon lad playing for a team a division or two below us and getting the chance to come home.
Very good chance of Fitton and Wray being back at the club I reckon. . By the way Wiz, when I said "dream move" for Collins, I really meant the opportunity to play for his hometown club. I would see it as similar to a Swindon lad playing for a team a division or two below us and getting the chance to come home. Oi Den!

3:47pm Mon 28 Jan 13

swwindon61uk says...

Collins might as well stay with us as we could be swapping with Wolves or playing them one way or another next season!
Collins might as well stay with us as we could be swapping with Wolves or playing them one way or another next season! swwindon61uk

3:49pm Mon 28 Jan 13

swwindon61uk says...

Myself i do not see Collins as a Championship quality player just yet but could become one very soon under PDC's guidance.
Myself i do not see Collins as a Championship quality player just yet but could become one very soon under PDC's guidance. swwindon61uk

4:01pm Mon 28 Jan 13

avo says...

my mates mums daughter, or his sister to simplfy it, said that a deal had been done to get Austin back in SN1, doing what he does best.
.
She's really looking forward to his return apparently ;-)
my mates mums daughter, or his sister to simplfy it, said that a deal had been done to get Austin back in SN1, doing what he does best. . She's really looking forward to his return apparently ;-) avo

4:04pm Mon 28 Jan 13

London Red says...

Collins hometown club is Coventry - and he rejected their advance to join us in the summer - so I don't think that is too much of a factor for him
.
He certainly seems more interested in achieving as much as he can in the game and PdC was obviously a massive pull in that decision he made over boyhood dreams
.
If the Austin rumours of £7m are correct that would be great news for us - at 20% of profit that is another £1.16m - taking the total to £2.36m!
Collins hometown club is Coventry - and he rejected their advance to join us in the summer - so I don't think that is too much of a factor for him . He certainly seems more interested in achieving as much as he can in the game and PdC was obviously a massive pull in that decision he made over boyhood dreams . If the Austin rumours of £7m are correct that would be great news for us - at 20% of profit that is another £1.16m - taking the total to £2.36m! London Red

4:15pm Mon 28 Jan 13

the don69 says...

One of our employee's in our London office,say's Orient want tomorrow's game off!there not doing too much to get the pitch prepared and there's very heavy rain forecast for Tuesday!what's the betting it'll be called off??????????
One of our employee's in our London office,say's Orient want tomorrow's game off!there not doing too much to get the pitch prepared and there's very heavy rain forecast for Tuesday!what's the betting it'll be called off?????????? the don69

4:57pm Mon 28 Jan 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

the don69 wrote:
One of our employee's in our London office,say's Orient want tomorrow's game off!there not doing too much to get the pitch prepared and there's very heavy rain forecast for Tuesday!what's the betting it'll be called off??????????
....errrmmmmm....pre
tty high!
....
They don't bother with any work on the pitch and no motivation to work outside of normal hours down there.
====
Let's hope they prove us wrong!!
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: One of our employee's in our London office,say's Orient want tomorrow's game off!there not doing too much to get the pitch prepared and there's very heavy rain forecast for Tuesday!what's the betting it'll be called off??????????[/p][/quote]....errrmmmmm....pre tty high! .... They don't bother with any work on the pitch and no motivation to work outside of normal hours down there. ==== Let's hope they prove us wrong!! SAPFanSTFC

5:00pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Collins hometown club is Coventry - and he rejected their advance to join us in the summer - so I don't think that is too much of a factor for him
.
He certainly seems more interested in achieving as much as he can in the game and PdC was obviously a massive pull in that decision he made over boyhood dreams
.
If the Austin rumours of £7m are correct that would be great news for us - at 20% of profit that is another £1.16m - taking the total to £2.36m!
You're right about Coventry of course LR. And I knew that - so I don't know where I dredged that inaccuracy up from! Re Austin, the bookies have had Celtic as odds on favourites to sign him for a while now. One of his mates is a Celtic player - and ex-Burnley - and has been showing him around Glasgow. And he's had tickets to Old Firm games, supplied via Ferry and/or Caddis. Apparently the deal is supposed to turn on whether Hooper leaves Celtic or not. I'll post the link if I can find it. Could be all crap but it sounds plausible enough.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Collins hometown club is Coventry - and he rejected their advance to join us in the summer - so I don't think that is too much of a factor for him . He certainly seems more interested in achieving as much as he can in the game and PdC was obviously a massive pull in that decision he made over boyhood dreams . If the Austin rumours of £7m are correct that would be great news for us - at 20% of profit that is another £1.16m - taking the total to £2.36m![/p][/quote]You're right about Coventry of course LR. And I knew that - so I don't know where I dredged that inaccuracy up from! Re Austin, the bookies have had Celtic as odds on favourites to sign him for a while now. One of his mates is a Celtic player - and ex-Burnley - and has been showing him around Glasgow. And he's had tickets to Old Firm games, supplied via Ferry and/or Caddis. Apparently the deal is supposed to turn on whether Hooper leaves Celtic or not. I'll post the link if I can find it. Could be all crap but it sounds plausible enough. Oi Den!

5:01pm Mon 28 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome?
.
If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses.
.
For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.
Den, we often agree but I really wasn't looking for anything sinister. The press often get hold of these stories while the clubs are trying to keep it quiet. My guess is that Saunders has sung Collins praises and the odd, "well I wouldn't mind him here" and its gone on from that. Only last week there were rumours about Ritchie again, yet STFC say they received no bid, I'll put it down to silly season. I think these stories do unsettle players to a point, and that degree depends on the player. Ritchie has heard it all before so not unsettling to him, Collins ? well only three days to go and if Saunders really, really wanted him I'm sure a bid would have been in long before now. Not so sure about Wolves being a dream move anymore, since Deadly Doug has left its all gone a bit pear shaped.
Still, as the man says , onward and upwards, inwards and outwards, I'm more interested in the take over and has The Trust offered to buy any shares, and did they contribute any of the money that was sent in. I sent my bit directly to finance, after a phone call, so I knew where it was going. Seems a lot of other contributions are tucked up in a bank account which is fine but it didn't help in the crisis at the time as was intended. thats not knocking the Trust, but folk did part with their hard earned cash in the belief it was going to be helping the situation at that time.
Fair enough Wiz. Mind you, Deadly Doug was chairman at Villa, not Wolves!
Den, Yes, I fluffed up there (I was doing the dinner), but then again right on both counts up to a point.
Villa are lurching out of one crisis into the next this season. We started the rot, LOL.
Then again, Wolves have been a struggling club since McCarthy went, and although he was and then wasn't special they do need somebody to shake out the club from top to bottom, a shadow of their former selves. I wouldn't count either as a dream move.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Wiz, isn't it equally likely that Wolves would want to keep their interest quiet, to avoid the risk of getting gazumped by any other interested party? If Saunders does want to sign him, I doubt very much that he's pleased about it being made public. Were West Brom also trying to "unsettle" Collins by sending scouts to watch him?. There seems to be a growing trend on here to see something sinister in everything done by other clubs. Am I alone in finding it all a bit tiresome? . If there is a serious offer, it would present quite a dilemma for Collins - stay and be part of a small/medium-sized club that's heading in the right direction or make the "dream move" to his hometown club which is bigger and in a higher division but struggling. In these situations it doesn't matter how much the manager protests. It would inevitably come down to what the player chooses. . For what it's worth, I think it would be a risky move for both Collins and Wolves. He's doing well, although still has something to prove even at this level. Much better for him to continue developing his game here than to risk biting off more than he can chew. If he's good enough, his time will come.[/p][/quote]Den, we often agree but I really wasn't looking for anything sinister. The press often get hold of these stories while the clubs are trying to keep it quiet. My guess is that Saunders has sung Collins praises and the odd, "well I wouldn't mind him here" and its gone on from that. Only last week there were rumours about Ritchie again, yet STFC say they received no bid, I'll put it down to silly season. I think these stories do unsettle players to a point, and that degree depends on the player. Ritchie has heard it all before so not unsettling to him, Collins ? well only three days to go and if Saunders really, really wanted him I'm sure a bid would have been in long before now. Not so sure about Wolves being a dream move anymore, since Deadly Doug has left its all gone a bit pear shaped. Still, as the man says , onward and upwards, inwards and outwards, I'm more interested in the take over and has The Trust offered to buy any shares, and did they contribute any of the money that was sent in. I sent my bit directly to finance, after a phone call, so I knew where it was going. Seems a lot of other contributions are tucked up in a bank account which is fine but it didn't help in the crisis at the time as was intended. thats not knocking the Trust, but folk did part with their hard earned cash in the belief it was going to be helping the situation at that time.[/p][/quote]Fair enough Wiz. Mind you, Deadly Doug was chairman at Villa, not Wolves![/p][/quote]Den, Yes, I fluffed up there (I was doing the dinner), but then again right on both counts up to a point. Villa are lurching out of one crisis into the next this season. We started the rot, LOL. Then again, Wolves have been a struggling club since McCarthy went, and although he was and then wasn't special they do need somebody to shake out the club from top to bottom, a shadow of their former selves. I wouldn't count either as a dream move. the wizard

5:05pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

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http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-news/ch arlie-austin-could-r eplace-gary-1550516 Oi Den!

5:55pm Mon 28 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
On reflection I think London has hooked us all line and sinker.... I doff my cap sir, bit of lack of sleep for me last night. SAPF if your going to quote me can you get it right. that was so last January! Back to back to back promotions coming.* He IS a legend! *subject to us keeping our squad and not going into 'a' word
YOU AND LONDON RED 1 man. 1 man 2 accounts ...

You 2 must be as your always getting off on each other..
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: On reflection I think London has hooked us all line and sinker.... I doff my cap sir, bit of lack of sleep for me last night. SAPF if your going to quote me can you get it right. that was so last January! Back to back to back promotions coming.* He IS a legend! *subject to us keeping our squad and not going into 'a' word[/p][/quote]YOU AND LONDON RED 1 man. 1 man 2 accounts ... You 2 must be as your always getting off on each other.. DarrenSTFCRomain

6:54pm Mon 28 Jan 13

The Jockster says...

the don69 wrote:
One of our employee's in our London office,say's Orient want tomorrow's game off!there not doing too much to get the pitch prepared and there's very heavy rain forecast for Tuesday!what's the betting it'll be called off??????????
Don I've been saying the same for a few days since the snow went and then saw the forecast for rain. Plus we have an O's fan at work and he says it won't take much more to get it called off. Got my ticket but expecting to have to hang on to it again for another day. Glad I've not bought train ticket yet!
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: One of our employee's in our London office,say's Orient want tomorrow's game off!there not doing too much to get the pitch prepared and there's very heavy rain forecast for Tuesday!what's the betting it'll be called off??????????[/p][/quote]Don I've been saying the same for a few days since the snow went and then saw the forecast for rain. Plus we have an O's fan at work and he says it won't take much more to get it called off. Got my ticket but expecting to have to hang on to it again for another day. Glad I've not bought train ticket yet! The Jockster

6:55pm Mon 28 Jan 13

jayden says...

The sun said we are sending simon cox out on loan today.
The sun said we are sending simon cox out on loan today. jayden

8:32pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Di kanny oh says...

Blimey I am really trying my best to watch the Exeter vs Torquay game on Sky Sports and its worse than watching paint dry and wife just shouted at me are you asleep. Talk about dire crikey it really is pants and just shows the gulf between them and the Town. Rest assured Town fans the gulf is so wide it is insane to just think its only one Division. Ahh well night night back to having a kip I mean watching the game.
Blimey I am really trying my best to watch the Exeter vs Torquay game on Sky Sports and its worse than watching paint dry and wife just shouted at me are you asleep. Talk about dire crikey it really is pants and just shows the gulf between them and the Town. Rest assured Town fans the gulf is so wide it is insane to just think its only one Division. Ahh well night night back to having a kip I mean watching the game. Di kanny oh

4:42pm Tue 29 Jan 13

MunichRed says...

From Molineuxmix "Wouldn't touch him with a bargepole", "Joan Collins would be a better bet". Someone also quoted L.R.'s "lump" comment.
From Molineuxmix "Wouldn't touch him with a bargepole", "Joan Collins would be a better bet". Someone also quoted L.R.'s "lump" comment. MunichRed

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