MATCHDAY LIVE: Crawley Town v Swindon Town (From Swindon Advertiser)

Mushymushy wrote:
Hopefully it will be Pdc last game if he cannot get his toys back in the pram.

peckham red wrote:
Anyone know if there still tickets?

peckham red wrote:
Anyone know if there still tickets?

davel4848 wrote:
Just don't respond to mushymushy. He'll soon get bored.

peckham red wrote:
Anyone know if there still tickets?

Haydonender wrote:
Results going our way at the moment, it could yet be a very good day. Hopefully the crowd will let PDC know how much we want him to stay and with a win the table tonight could look too good to walk away from

louiscassius wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Hopefully it will be Pdc last game if he cannot get his toys back in the pram.

Go away.......MONG!!

stigger wrote:
now brentford 2 down and tranmere 1 down and man down! surely we dont need anymore incentive! COYR

stfc2012 wrote:
Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

stfc2012 wrote:
Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

stfc2012 wrote:
Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

louiscassius wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

Dont start please....

Just because your guiding principles dont allow you to express yourself in that way....please dont impose your up brining on others...

Freedom of expression.

Louis :-=)))

stfc2012 wrote:
Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

louiscassius wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

Dont start please....

Just because your guiding principles dont allow you to express yourself in that way....please dont impose your up brining on others...

Freedom of expression.

Louis :-=)))

LambournRed wrote:
F*CK OFF Mushymushy you c u nt

Always red wrote:

LambournRed wrote:
F*CK OFF Mushymushy you c u nt

Your a **** mate go play on the motorway keep this site free for real fans and you are a mong

louiscassius wrote:

stfc2012 wrote: Do people have to keep posting obscene language? Crisis or not some of the posters on here are extremely immature. This is not an adult forum so show some class.

Dont start please.... Just because your guiding principles dont allow you to express yourself in that way....please dont impose your up brining on others... Freedom of expression. Louis :-=)))

LambournRed wrote:
F*CK OFF Mushymushy you c u nt

LydiardRED67 wrote:
All those that went today deserve a medal.

If PDC needed a message, you guys certainly gave it.

Well done to all.

Fenris382 wrote:
Did look very much like "goodbye" hope I'm wrong

Ginge09 wrote:
Bye Bye Paulo. The tears in your eyes leaves me feeling the worst. Fair play to the fans at the game today- totally out sang Crawley- if PDC does stay- it will be for the fans.

umpcah wrote:

Ginge09 wrote:
Bye Bye Paulo. The tears in your eyes leaves me feeling the worst. Fair play to the fans at the game today- totally out sang Crawley- if PDC does stay- it will be for the fans.

After Paolo`s 21 months at Swindon you cant get his name right ! Shame on you !

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.
Please don't go Pablo we love you.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Di kanny oh wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.
Please don't go Pablo we love you.

He has just talked L I V E on BBC Wiltshire radio and is planning for the next game on Tuesday night and was very proud of his players tonight especially as four of them have the sickness virus and should not have played. Mushypeas you mate are sick in the head now take you crraap back up the A420 moron

Ginge09 wrote:
Bye Bye Paulo. The tears in your eyes leaves me feeling the worst. Fair play to the fans at the game today- totally out sang Crawley- if PDC does stay- it will be for the fans.

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Mushymushy wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.
Please don't go Pablo we love you.

He has just talked L I V E on BBC Wiltshire radio and is planning for the next game on Tuesday night and was very proud of his players tonight especially as four of them have the sickness virus and should not have played. Mushypeas you mate are sick in the head now take you crraap back up the A420 moron

Just listened to pdc interview on heart fm and he's apologised for his departure and has thanked all fans on the evening adver web site for all there support and comments over the last 18 months

joey butler wrote:
Someone on here has often said that if you draw your away games and win your home games, you go up. {Sorry, I cannot remember which poster}.

So on that basis, a valuable point today after a horrible few days!!

And we WILL beat Colchester and Hartlepool next week.

IF we can still sign the three new loans and I know it is a big if, we are going up with automatic promotion, WITHOUT DOUBT!!!!!!

Mushymushy wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote: Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible. Please don't go Pablo we love you.

He has just talked L I V E on BBC Wiltshire radio and is planning for the next game on Tuesday night and was very proud of his players tonight especially as four of them have the sickness virus and should not have played. Mushypeas you mate are sick in the head now take you crraap back up the A420 moron

Just listened to pdc interview on heart fm and he's apologised for his departure and has thanked all fans on the evening adver web site for all there support and comments over the last 18 months

Mushymushy wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Someone on here has often said that if you draw your away games and win your home games, you go up. {Sorry, I cannot remember which poster}.

So on that basis, a valuable point today after a horrible few days!!

And we WILL beat Colchester and Hartlepool next week.

IF we can still sign the three new loans and I know it is a big if, we are going up with automatic promotion, WITHOUT DOUBT!!!!!!

Joey why has it been a horrible few days have you had a death in the family,has you cat been run over,have you had your bike stolen from out side tesco has you favourite jeans been ripped whilst climbing over a barb wire fence. Probably not so why has it been so horrible .

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Mushymushy wrote:

joey butler wrote: Someone on here has often said that if you draw your away games and win your home games, you go up. {Sorry, I cannot remember which poster}. So on that basis, a valuable point today after a horrible few days!! And we WILL beat Colchester and Hartlepool next week. IF we can still sign the three new loans and I know it is a big if, we are going up with automatic promotion, WITHOUT DOUBT!!!!!!

Joey why has it been a horrible few days have you had a death in the family,has you cat been run over,have you had your bike stolen from out side tesco has you favourite jeans been ripped whilst climbing over a barb wire fence. Probably not so why has it been so horrible .

Oxon-Red wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote: Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible. Please don't go Pablo we love you.

He has just talked L I V E on BBC Wiltshire radio and is planning for the next game on Tuesday night and was very proud of his players tonight especially as four of them have the sickness virus and should not have played. Mushypeas you mate are sick in the head now take you crraap back up the A420 moron

Just listened to pdc interview on heart fm and he's apologised for his departure and has thanked all fans on the evening adver web site for all there support and comments over the last 18 months

http://www.urbandict

ionary.com/define.ph

p?term=Mushy%20Mushy

stfc2012 wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Either spit it out or clear off lad. You and mushy need to get out more.

Guv wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Either spit it out or clear off lad. You and mushy need to get out more.

fine then, that's it STFC fans, I give up, you was to find out something big.

But now I just cannot be bothered with you, unlike yourself at home, I'm currently on a train after a supporting my team!

Guv wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Either spit it out or clear off lad. You and mushy need to get out more.

fine then, that's it STFC fans, I give up, you was to find out something big.

But now I just cannot be bothered with you, unlike yourself at home, I'm currently on a train after a supporting my team!

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Chish and Fips wrote:

Guv wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Either spit it out or clear off lad. You and mushy need to get out more.

fine then, that's it STFC fans, I give up, you was to find out something big.

But now I just cannot be bothered with you, unlike yourself at home, I'm currently on a train after a supporting my team!

Good night !

Since 1950 wrote:
Hard fought for point that today. You can't play passing football on a pitch like that. I've seen better rec's! Disgrace, teams should be fined for producing a playing surface like that.

Still looks touch and go with Di Canio to me. The man looked totally gutted today on TV.

The thing that's worrying is just how he'll be able to forge a working relationship with the new board after being treated like this?

Since 1950 wrote:
Hard fought for point that today. You can't play passing football on a pitch like that. I've seen better rec's! Disgrace, teams should be fined for producing a playing surface like that.

Still looks touch and go with Di Canio to me. The man looked totally gutted today on TV.

The thing that's worrying is just how he'll be able to forge a working relationship with the new board after being treated like this?

Guv wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Either spit it out or clear off lad. You and mushy need to get out more.

fine then, that's it STFC fans, I give up, you was to find out something big.

But now I just cannot be bothered with you, unlike yourself at home, I'm currently on a train after a supporting my team!

Guv's mummy wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Oh Guvvy i told you last night you are grounded for playing wth your sister and not aloud on the computer now go to bed you naughty boy

Guv wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Either spit it out or clear off lad. You and mushy need to get out more.

fine then, that's it STFC fans, I give up, you was to find out something big.

But now I just cannot be bothered with you, unlike yourself at home, I'm currently on a train after a supporting my team!

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit.
Check out sky sports news web site.
This is terrible.
Please don't go Pablo we love you.

bearwoodred wrote:

Guv's mummy wrote:

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Oh Guvvy i told you last night you are grounded for playing wth your sister and not aloud on the computer now go to bed you naughty boy

no offense chap but you also said the entire squad were going - most of whom were um.. playing today.

Can't think of anyone at the moment who is managerless can you!!!

Mushymushy wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:

Exmouth_red69 wrote:

Mushymushy wrote: Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible.

Ignore the pri@k.

Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible. Please don't go Pablo we love you.

He has just talked L I V E on BBC Wiltshire radio and is planning for the next game on Tuesday night and was very proud of his players tonight especially as four of them have the sickness virus and should not have played. Mushypeas you mate are sick in the head now take you crraap back up the A420 moron

Just listened to pdc interview on heart fm and he's apologised for his departure and has thanked all fans on the evening adver web site for all there support and comments over the last 18 months

http://www.urbandict ionary.com/define.ph p?term=Mushy%20Mushy

Oxford red Mushy mushy is Japanese look it up. the urban dictionary is for chavs .which would suit someone who comes from Oxford and supports swindon.

Guv wrote:
Evening,
I come bearing some excellent news, as we speak, PDC has a very important meeting planned and if my info is correct (as it has been all the way) I come bearing news that our take over is now going to be completed by Tuesday and some of the 3 players we had hoped to sign on Thursday should be available. OK, well 2, i am not going to be drawn into more at this time As PDC has had some of his wish, it's still his decision, I will say he has received a chance to speak with another club, but the new chairman (potential chairman) has put some kind of guarantee's to him.

I don't think it will be enough to keep him after end of season, but even now it's down to PDC.

All I am saying, if you knew what I knew, you would hate Mr Black!

Mushymushy wrote:
The tv did show how bad the pitch was and how bad swindon played,it also showed pdc in tears because it was such a sad way to end his time with swindon.

Mushymushy wrote:
Cookie Monster what game did you watch do you honestly think swindon were the better team on the day or were you to busy watching pdc punching himself like a overexcited silverback.

Mushymushy wrote:
Who was the better team on the day?
Only sensible answers please and answer in no less than 20 words

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg pdc has just announced on sky sports news he has just quit. Check out sky sports news web site. This is terrible.

joey butler wrote:
I just listened to the PDC interview on BBC Sports three times, in case I missed anything. For me he has changed in recent months from a rookie manager to a totally inspirational leader. IF we can still sign the three loan players that PDC wants, we are going up, simple as that!! AUTOMATIC PROMOTION COMING UP AGAIN, IF WE CAN JUST GET THOSE LOAN PLAYERS THAT PDC WANTS!!!!!!!!!!

LydiardRED67 wrote:
All very quiet on the take over front. What are the thougts on the match?

Personally thought we were good in phases and the pitch was a shocker.

Same for both sides I know, but it made life difficult for our ball players.

Overall, draw a fair result. Thought both penalties were soft, but our softest.

Jay looked out of sorts, perhaps understandably and Nathan proved just how good he is when he came on.

Glad just not to lose today under the circumstances.

Oxon-Red wrote:

joey butler wrote:
I just listened to the PDC interview on BBC Sports three times, in case I missed anything. For me he has changed in recent months from a rookie manager to a totally inspirational leader. IF we can still sign the three loan players that PDC wants, we are going up, simple as that!! AUTOMATIC PROMOTION COMING UP AGAIN, IF WE CAN JUST GET THOSE LOAN PLAYERS THAT PDC WANTS!!!!!!!!!!

I think you are right Joey. Think it will be us and the Russian Mafia from the south coast.

COYMR

Mushymushy wrote:
Who was the better team on the day? Only sensible answers please and answer in no less than 20 words

Oi Den! wrote:
Useful point tonight. I thought we were dreadful in the first half and much the better side in the second. The improved performance seemed to coincide with PDC rousing himself from thoughts of other matters.
.
I have a feeling that this time next week we'll either have PDC, the new loan signings and new owners or none of the three and be staring a large points deduction in the face. Looks like all or nothing now.

old town robin wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:
All very quiet on the take over front. What are the thougts on the match?

Personally thought we were good in phases and the pitch was a shocker.

Same for both sides I know, but it made life difficult for our ball players.

Overall, draw a fair result. Thought both penalties were soft, but our softest.

Jay looked out of sorts, perhaps understandably and Nathan proved just how good he is when he came on.

Glad just not to lose today under the circumstances.

Lydiardred,

Our post must have crossed, my thoughts are pretty similar to yours, the pitch was attrocious, both penalties were soft and I agree we were lucky to get ours, but that Adams guy for them did seem to go down very easily for theirs and IMO should have got a YELLOW for diving on more than one occassion and he was aggressive to Macca when he was called a ****, another ref could have given him a red. But in general thought the officials were fine although the ref was very lenient with their play acting (Evans training live on)

Still don't understand why Nathan didn't start, Jay isn't yet ready, no reason to change a solid back 4, pleased with Rooney, despite what other posters may say about him, I think that is 4 goals in 7 appearances, very good ratio in my book.

2 points from 2 games away from home is not great but could be worse, still unbeaten from 9 games, but on the plus side all of the other teams in contension except Bournemouth lost, so some ground has been made.

So important to get 3 points next Tuesday against Colchester to close the gap.

COYR

the wizard wrote:
It seems that other clubs love to dish out ridicule towards us, BUT, how many come here and play on a mud pool. They don't. Our pitch is well maintained, well drained and treated well by ground staff who probably put the pitch as a big first in their life. Even after the snow, it was such a perfect surface. Wilson and our manager now have both stated how important the playing surface is and conjusive it is for playing good football.

BIG shame other clubs don't share that view or passion. Orient and Crawley, both would be big time Charlie clubs yet they haven't got a good pitch unless its August or September, even then its down to luck.
Perhaps the vacillaters from the FL should be looking into the standard of pitches and grounds as opposed to dragging their feet over our change of ownership. Ahsoles.

Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, there seems to be a touch of bitterness about many of your posts lately. Have you such a short memory that you don't remember the awful surface we had at the County Ground for many years? In any case, football is a winter game in this country, and we have seen some cracking matches - particularly Cup ties on pitches far worse than Crawley's. Perhaps we have spent a lot more money on ours than Orient or Crawley they have on theirs. Does that give us any right to look down on them when we are deep in financial sh1t? And how do you know the Football League are dragging their feet over our change of ownership? Do you know what the process involves or how long it normally takes? How do you justify calling them @rseholes? The Football League has a duty to protect the game in general and individual clubs from unsuitable or unscrupulous would be owners. I find it hard to see why you would object to that, even if you have done your own due diligence on "Jed" (as you like to call him, while referring to the man who saved our club with millions of pounds as "Black") and given him the green light to proceed. You keep tossing these hand grenades in and your only rationale seems to be tribal and selfish sour grapes.

Mushymushy wrote:
The tv did show how bad the pitch was and how bad swindon played,it also showed pdc in tears because it was such a sad way to end his time with swindon.

Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, there seems to be a touch of bitterness about many of your posts lately. Have you such a short memory that you don't remember the awful surface we had at the County Ground for many years? In any case, football is a winter game in this country, and we have seen some cracking matches - particularly Cup ties on pitches far worse than Crawley's. Perhaps we have spent a lot more money on ours than Orient or Crawley they have on theirs. Does that give us any right to look down on them when we are deep in financial sh1t? And how do you know the Football League are dragging their feet over our change of ownership? Do you know what the process involves or how long it normally takes? How do you justify calling them @rseholes? The Football League has a duty to protect the game in general and individual clubs from unsuitable or unscrupulous would be owners. I find it hard to see why you would object to that, even if you have done your own due diligence on "Jed" (as you like to call him, while referring to the man who saved our club with millions of pounds as "Black") and given him the green light to proceed. You keep tossing these hand grenades in and your only rationale seems to be tribal and selfish sour grapes.

the wizard wrote:
It seems that other clubs love to dish out ridicule towards us, BUT, how many come here and play on a mud pool. They don't. Our pitch is well maintained, well drained and treated well by ground staff who probably put the pitch as a big first in their life. Even after the snow, it was such a perfect surface. Wilson and our manager now have both stated how important the playing surface is and conjusive it is for playing good football.

BIG shame other clubs don't share that view or passion. Orient and Crawley, both would be big time Charlie clubs yet they haven't got a good pitch unless its August or September, even then its down to luck.
Perhaps the vacillaters from the FL should be looking into the standard of pitches and grounds as opposed to dragging their feet over our change of ownership. Ahsoles.

the wizard wrote:
Den, No I'm not exactly bitter but if we can make the effort then surely other clubs should have some sort of moral obligation to do the same. Yes I agree sometimes the weather has influence, so does drainage, so do covers, so why spend a fortune pro rata on a side of players that you hope will get you somewhere, when they can't play because of the pitch.

We are now in 2013, this isn't post war Britain recovering from WW2 anymore. In the day and age of soil specialists, grass land research and several durable grass's available, drainage experts etc, etc. Why should football as a whole suffer in this day and age when it can do so much better.

As goes the FL, just read back on my posts all through the sale etc and I have been saying it will take as long as it takes. As goes the rest of it, compered to many I have been quite understanding, but on the nonsense of cancelled games, sorry but I don't see some other clubs making any effort, and its time it was sorted in a more uniform manner. Things need to be put in place now on a time scale agreed by the clubs at their yearly meeting. If they can agree rules around the wage fix at 60 & 65% or what ever they should also be looking at maintain fixtures to avoid fixture congestion. Its all about commitment and how much you want to be in the FL. Those clubs that can't/won't reach a minimum standard should be relegated down to a level where they fit in. There will be a queue of others baying to take their place.

the wizard wrote:
Den, No I'm not exactly bitter but if we can make the effort then surely other clubs should have some sort of moral obligation to do the same. Yes I agree sometimes the weather has influence, so does drainage, so do covers, so why spend a fortune pro rata on a side of players that you hope will get you somewhere, when they can't play because of the pitch.

We are now in 2013, this isn't post war Britain recovering from WW2 anymore. In the day and age of soil specialists, grass land research and several durable grass's available, drainage experts etc, etc. Why should football as a whole suffer in this day and age when it can do so much better.

As goes the FL, just read back on my posts all through the sale etc and I have been saying it will take as long as it takes. As goes the rest of it, compered to many I have been quite understanding, but on the nonsense of cancelled games, sorry but I don't see some other clubs making any effort, and its time it was sorted in a more uniform manner. Things need to be put in place now on a time scale agreed by the clubs at their yearly meeting. If they can agree rules around the wage fix at 60 & 65% or what ever they should also be looking at maintain fixtures to avoid fixture congestion. Its all about commitment and how much you want to be in the FL. Those clubs that can't/won't reach a minimum standard should be relegated down to a level where they fit in. There will be a queue of others baying to take their place.

umpcah wrote:
Anyone want my opinion on PDC`s position ? Perhaps not but here it is ! I think he`s now waiting for the new Board`s ratification and their statement of intent before announcing his own plans.

Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, there seems to be a touch of bitterness about many of your posts lately. Have you such a short memory that you don't remember the awful surface we had at the County Ground for many years? In any case, football is a winter game in this country, and we have seen some cracking matches - particularly Cup ties on pitches far worse than Crawley's. Perhaps we have spent a lot more money on ours than Orient or Crawley they have on theirs. Does that give us any right to look down on them when we are deep in financial sh1t? And how do you know the Football League are dragging their feet over our change of ownership? Do you know what the process involves or how long it normally takes? How do you justify calling them @rseholes? The Football League has a duty to protect the game in general and individual clubs from unsuitable or unscrupulous would be owners. I find it hard to see why you would object to that, even if you have done your own due diligence on "Jed" (as you like to call him, while referring to the man who saved our club with millions of pounds as "Black") and given him the green light to proceed. You keep tossing these hand grenades in and your only rationale seems to be tribal and selfish sour grapes.

Mushymushy wrote:
Who was the better team on the day?
Only sensible answers please and answer in no less than 20 words

Mushymushy wrote:
Just heard on sky sport news Pdc has just thrown in the towel and Tuesday will be his last game..... Gutted

Mushymushy wrote:
Just heard on sky sport news Pdc has just thrown in the towel and Tuesday will be his last game..... Gutted

stfc2012 wrote:
Daily mirror suggests PDC for Huddersfield as second choice. Been suggested before and I think he'll take any Championship job and rightly so as he's earned a shot at a level up. He's being quiet now to not give the board anything to sack him with and avoid paying him off but if another job comes up I think he'll resign and take his full back room staff with him. His win percentage is excellent and although a bit of a risk - all new appointments carry a risk. He'd put extra bums on seats and add a bit of extra passion. Untenable he said.

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

The Jockster wrote:
Come off it guys Den wasn't so far off beam - there's guys saying we would have won the game on a better pitch so how come Orient won at our place on a near perfect pitch? Also this idealistic notion that all pitches should meet a certain standard criteria is farcical. If that was the case half the pitches in the lower leagues would be vetoed and some in the Prem. People need to think outside the box sometimes- doesn't geographical location play a part? I'll bet the south east gets more inches of rain per annum than the Swindon area most years and that's from just noting weather patterns. Yes measures can be taken to improve and protect playing surfaces but that costs money that smaller clubs don't have.
All Town fans are currently worked up about survival and rightly so but I'd bet a pound to a pinch of sh!t they'd all settle for a pudding of a pitch if it meant the club stayed in business.

jayden wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Wiz, there seems to be a touch of bitterness about many of your posts lately. Have you such a short memory that you don't remember the awful surface we had at the County Ground for many years? In any case, football is a winter game in this country, and we have seen some cracking matches - particularly Cup ties on pitches far worse than Crawley's. Perhaps we have spent a lot more money on ours than Orient or Crawley they have on theirs. Does that give us any right to look down on them when we are deep in financial sh1t? And how do you know the Football League are dragging their feet over our change of ownership? Do you know what the process involves or how long it normally takes? How do you justify calling them @rseholes? The Football League has a duty to protect the game in general and individual clubs from unsuitable or unscrupulous would be owners. I find it hard to see why you would object to that, even if you have done your own due diligence on "Jed" (as you like to call him, while referring to the man who saved our club with millions of pounds as "Black") and given him the green light to proceed. You keep tossing these hand grenades in and your only rationale seems to be tribal and selfish sour grapes.

Hi Den i think you are a bit hard on wiz but you do have a point.We have had one of the worst weather years on record, the farmers have not been able to get into the fields and will need aleast 6 dry weeks to get on them.I also feel that our groundsman is worth his weight in gold for the job he does.All though yesterdays game was not the best it got the players thinking and showed how some can play on any playing surface and others cant.On the take over i to am happy that the fl are taking their time as i have been told who afew of them are and if this is true i would question their value none are a Mr Black i can tell you that much. I see this mess as far from over i hope i am wrong totaly but as Pdc says on to the next game and thats all the players and fans can do and lets hope we sill have a club next season if not ill have to dust the golf clubs off .Life still goes on.

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

The Jockster wrote:
Come off it guys Den wasn't so far off beam - there's guys saying we would have won the game on a better pitch so how come Orient won at our place on a near perfect pitch? Also this idealistic notion that all pitches should meet a certain standard criteria is farcical. If that was the case half the pitches in the lower leagues would be vetoed and some in the Prem. People need to think outside the box sometimes- doesn't geographical location play a part? I'll bet the south east gets more inches of rain per annum than the Swindon area most years and that's from just noting weather patterns. Yes measures can be taken to improve and protect playing surfaces but that costs money that smaller clubs don't have. All Town fans are currently worked up about survival and rightly so but I'd bet a pound to a pinch of sh!t they'd all settle for a pudding of a pitch if it meant the club stayed in business.

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

Mushymushy wrote:
Just heard on sky sport news Pdc has just thrown in the towel and Tuesday will be his last game..... Gutted

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

Chish and Fips wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den, No I'm not exactly bitter but if we can make the effort then surely other clubs should have some sort of moral obligation to do the same. Yes I agree sometimes the weather has influence, so does drainage, so do covers, so why spend a fortune pro rata on a side of players that you hope will get you somewhere, when they can't play because of the pitch.

We are now in 2013, this isn't post war Britain recovering from WW2 anymore. In the day and age of soil specialists, grass land research and several durable grass's available, drainage experts etc, etc. Why should football as a whole suffer in this day and age when it can do so much better.

As goes the FL, just read back on my posts all through the sale etc and I have been saying it will take as long as it takes. As goes the rest of it, compered to many I have been quite understanding, but on the nonsense of cancelled games, sorry but I don't see some other clubs making any effort, and its time it was sorted in a more uniform manner. Things need to be put in place now on a time scale agreed by the clubs at their yearly meeting. If they can agree rules around the wage fix at 60 & 65% or what ever they should also be looking at maintain fixtures to avoid fixture congestion. Its all about commitment and how much you want to be in the FL. Those clubs that can't/won't reach a minimum standard should be relegated down to a level where they fit in. There will be a queue of others baying to take their place.

Excellent reply Wiz and some food for thought.

That pitch last night was a disgrace and had a negative effect on the game.

the don69 wrote:
Black has now said he sanctioned the Ritchie sale,as I said Black is still in charge until the buyers are given clearance,they can't do nothing or say nothing until they have control,Black is so desperate to get out asap he will sell to anyone and is virtually giving our club away,so Paolo is left in limbo and feeling very let down,after speaking to one of our players yesterday after the match,he has told his players he is waiting to see how all this plays out before deciding his action,so Black has not caused a car crash,he has caused a multiple pile up and is the dangerous driver just wanting to race away at high speed!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Couchy125 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Obviously you haven't been to bournemouth for a long time. And I haven't had the pleasure of going to Swindon for about 20 years. I used to enjoy the banter with the staff at the shell station by the ground. I used to deliver there every day. I really do hope we both get promoted. Good luck with your new board.

swindonsquibz wrote:
Just read on sky sports news saying that Huddersfield are keeping an eye on Paolo to fill the vacant position there.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den, No I'm not exactly bitter but if we can make the effort then surely other clubs should have some sort of moral obligation to do the same. Yes I agree sometimes the weather has influence, so does drainage, so do covers, so why spend a fortune pro rata on a side of players that you hope will get you somewhere, when they can't play because of the pitch.

We are now in 2013, this isn't post war Britain recovering from WW2 anymore. In the day and age of soil specialists, grass land research and several durable grass's available, drainage experts etc, etc. Why should football as a whole suffer in this day and age when it can do so much better.

As goes the FL, just read back on my posts all through the sale etc and I have been saying it will take as long as it takes. As goes the rest of it, compered to many I have been quite understanding, but on the nonsense of cancelled games, sorry but I don't see some other clubs making any effort, and its time it was sorted in a more uniform manner. Things need to be put in place now on a time scale agreed by the clubs at their yearly meeting. If they can agree rules around the wage fix at 60 & 65% or what ever they should also be looking at maintain fixtures to avoid fixture congestion. Its all about commitment and how much you want to be in the FL. Those clubs that can't/won't reach a minimum standard should be relegated down to a level where they fit in. There will be a queue of others baying to take their place.

Excellent reply Wiz and some food for thought.

That pitch last night was a disgrace and had a negative effect on the game.

Totally agree on the pitch - a disaster zone and given a decent surface we'd comfortably win 8 or 9 out of every 10 games v that bunch.
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Absolutely awful surface and they should spend some of their copious funds on the surface....although it seems to suit their playing style.
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As per another post - Bury manage quite well so why Crawley can't I've no idea.

eastern red wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Obviously you haven't been to bournemouth for a long time. And I haven't had the pleasure of going to Swindon for about 20 years. I used to enjoy the banter with the staff at the shell station by the ground. I used to deliver there every day. I really do hope we both get promoted. Good luck with your new board.

Crouchy, if the takeover goes through and we make the 3 signings then I think the 2 teams to go up automatically will be swindon and bournemouth ( di Canio or not). Will be watching to see how ritchie gets on, be warned he can have some very average games and shoots endlessly when a simple pass would be better, plus he is only good on decent surfaces and you don't get many of those in this league.

EastleazeRed wrote:

swindonsquibz wrote:
Just read on sky sports news saying that Huddersfield are keeping an eye on Paolo to fill the vacant position there.

where`s grayson gone then ?

Chish and Fips wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:

swindonsquibz wrote:
Just read on sky sports news saying that Huddersfield are keeping an eye on Paolo to fill the vacant position there.

where`s grayson gone then ?

To the Jobcentre - was sacked last week

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
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Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
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The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
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What tosh!

jayden wrote:
For those moaning about the pitch yesterday if all games were played on bowling greens then we might as well play the games on paper.I for one would rather watch a game like yesterday than any premier match anyday of the week.I thought it was great when the CT keeper lost his boot and expected the ref to stop the game ah "modern boots for you"

Couchy125 wrote:

eastern red wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Obviously you haven't been to bournemouth for a long time. And I haven't had the pleasure of going to Swindon for about 20 years. I used to enjoy the banter with the staff at the shell station by the ground. I used to deliver there every day. I really do hope we both get promoted. Good luck with your new board.

Crouchy, if the takeover goes through and we make the 3 signings then I think the 2 teams to go up automatically will be swindon and bournemouth ( di Canio or not). Will be watching to see how ritchie gets on, be warned he can have some very average games and shoots endlessly when a simple pass would be better, plus he is only good on decent surfaces and you don't get many of those in this league.

I would hope that mr Di Canio has taken time to read all the posts. If he has he won't be going anywhere. He is obviously well loved by all who go to the county ground. I hope for all of your fans that things get sorted ASAP. It would be great if both teams make the championship next season. And I think we would both hold our own.

Another view wrote:
Am I reading some of the most recent posts through rose tinted specs, or is there just a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel?

Nick Watkins saying that there might be positive news on Tuesday, and Paolo saying he might just wait and see how things pan out, sound very enouraging. His interview after the game showed a very mature attitude.

Lots of fingers crossed for the next week :-)

EastleazeRed wrote:

swindonsquibz wrote:
Just read on sky sports news saying that Huddersfield are keeping an eye on Paolo to fill the vacant position there.

where`s grayson gone then ?

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

jayden wrote:
For those moaning about the pitch yesterday if all games were played on bowling greens then we might as well play the games on paper.I for one would rather watch a game like yesterday than any premier match anyday of the week.I thought it was great when the CT keeper lost his boot and expected the ref to stop the game ah "modern boots for you"

No-one is denying we'd rather watch STFC as opposed to Premier League stuff but no-one can justify a pitch that was more worthy of a 1970s giant killing non-league ground.
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It was shameful in the least - I know we're lucky to have great groundsman and excellent drainage but surely Crawley with all their money could have laid a few drainage pipes leading out into the dead ground behind their smaller side-stand....there'

s a big enough hole for the water!....mid you they spend so much on footballs that go over there they have to be rich! :-)

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg just heard someone in the savoy saying Pdc has quit is it true.

The Jockster wrote:
Come off it guys Den wasn't so far off beam - there's guys saying we would have won the game on a better pitch so how come Orient won at our place on a near perfect pitch? Also this idealistic notion that all pitches should meet a certain standard criteria is farcical. If that was the case half the pitches in the lower leagues would be vetoed and some in the Prem. People need to think outside the box sometimes- doesn't geographical location play a part? I'll bet the south east gets more inches of rain per annum than the Swindon area most years and that's from just noting weather patterns. Yes measures can be taken to improve and protect playing surfaces but that costs money that smaller clubs don't have.
All Town fans are currently worked up about survival and rightly so but I'd bet a pound to a pinch of sh!t they'd all settle for a pudding of a pitch if it meant the club stayed in business.

stfc2012 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
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Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
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The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
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What tosh!

This is extremely funny. To be accused of talking tripe amidst the foul language and knee jerk reaction that frequents this board. I do not know when I suggested I was a spokesperson for anyone other than myself so I think that is just you. I am giving my opinion on how I see the current situation. I have not presented anything as fact and I do not suggest I am 'in the know'. It seems if you can string 2 coherent sentences together, don't agree with the mouthy frequent posters and have a more dynamic way of thinking other than knee jerk you are in danger of being dubbed 'egotistical' and 'pompous'. I'd rather that than the same old 'heart on your sleeve but not much more' nonsense that is spouted.

And I think you'll find most managers under pressure are sacked before they move on or are forced in to saying it was a mutual agreement. My point is wasted on you. PDC will now be more active and more open to other positions that previously may not have been of interest to him. A big move yes but a sideways move would not have been considered until now. With the board not able to pay him off this is pretty clearly a game of cat and mouse. Make things difficult and force him to resign. He used words such as 'untenable' which he may now well regret as he is still here (for now). While currently making it clear to all and sundry he is ready to 'move on' those clubs potentially interested just need to give Phil a call. You don't accuse a new board of going behind your back if you plan on building a new relationship with them and you don't go behind your manager's back if you are planning to start a relationship with him. It's all politics now and both sides are essentially kissing babies trying to keep the fans on their side. PDC is firmly going to win this race as the others cannot really talk at present. Why else would he release the statement - he could have just had a wait and see policy rather than teasing he may leave to alert other clubs and win the fans over. He could have said ' I did not want to sell Matt Richie and did not sanction the sale'. That would have been enough and said a lot more with fewer words. We know no more from his long statement than we would have with the one above. If anything it has just confused everyone further and prompted the inevitable barrage of questions aimed at him which he now wishes not to answer.

In terms of the new board, I find it hard to believe they will be any where near as wealthy as the last board and even if they did have lots of money they should have learned by the previous example that throwing money around doesn't always give you what you want unless they want a mess like this. It's hard for a board to please fans. Look after the pennies and they are seen as unambitious but in contrast if they throw it around then usually it doesn't benefit the club in the long term. The new board will hopefully look at the income and try and stick within the wage budget and develop from the ground up with sensible salaries for players.

Oldhamred wrote:
As I understand it PDC is under contract with the CURRENT owners of STFC which is ultimately Andrew Black.

If Paolo has claimed his position is "UNTENABLE" then surely that only applies whilst the current board is in place.

Once the new owners take up ownership, whoever they are his position would once again become "TENABLE".

Oldhamred wrote:
As I understand it PDC is under contract with the CURRENT owners of STFC which is ultimately Andrew Black.

If Paolo has claimed his position is "UNTENABLE" then surely that only applies whilst the current board is in place.

Once the new owners take up ownership, whoever they are his position would once again become "TENABLE".

Mushymushy wrote:
What's up Cookie Monster did you get out of your cot the wrong side. Can you not take a joke.

Chish and Fips wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:

swindonsquibz wrote:
Just read on sky sports news saying that Huddersfield are keeping an eye on Paolo to fill the vacant position there.

where`s grayson gone then ?

To the Jobcentre - was sacked last week

burley01rs wrote:
Who is paying for PDCs coaching team. He has responsibility for them.

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:

swindonsquibz wrote:
Just read on sky sports news saying that Huddersfield are keeping an eye on Paolo to fill the vacant position there.

where`s grayson gone then ?

To the Jobcentre - was sacked last week

Larry Grayson was told to "shut that door" as he left the udders.

Crap Pitch yesterday i agree but after supporting Swindon for so long especially around the Macari era it wasn't a surprise i have been around the country supporting us and believe me i have witnessed much worse and many times,don't buy into the Crawley hasn't tried or that they may of planned it to be this way,they have had to postpone other matches prior to our visit but i would of thought that they were fully aware how to use it to there advantage,who wouldn't?
Lastly just because one part of the country receives more rain/floods etc doesn't mean anything,lots of reason`s like the type of grass,the water table and even the angle that that pitch sits may affect how and why some pitches are better than others and lets not forget Crawley are only in there second season in the football league so could possibly of neglected the costs of a top quality pitch/groundsman and concentrated more on players etc.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

jayden wrote:
For those moaning about the pitch yesterday if all games were played on bowling greens then we might as well play the games on paper.I for one would rather watch a game like yesterday than any premier match anyday of the week.I thought it was great when the CT keeper lost his boot and expected the ref to stop the game ah "modern boots for you"

No-one is denying we'd rather watch STFC as opposed to Premier League stuff but no-one can justify a pitch that was more worthy of a 1970s giant killing non-league ground.
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It was shameful in the least - I know we're lucky to have great groundsman and excellent drainage but surely Crawley with all their money could have laid a few drainage pipes leading out into the dead ground behind their smaller side-stand....there'

s a big enough hole for the water!....mid you they spend so much on footballs that go over there they have to be rich! :-)

Lazaat wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:
As I understand it PDC is under contract with the CURRENT owners of STFC which is ultimately Andrew Black.

If Paolo has claimed his position is "UNTENABLE" then surely that only applies whilst the current board is in place.

Once the new owners take up ownership, whoever they are his position would once again become "TENABLE".

Paolo's contract of employment will be with the company 'Swindon Town FC' or whatever the official company name is and not the owner or owners! There is a legal difference (LR as an accountant should back me up un this) or else all the employees including players would be free agents and be out of contracts...which isn't the case!

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

the wizard wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Steve, I was trying to be positive and look forward in a positive light. If budgets are set in plenty of time, we can start to adjust our outgoings especially on wages for new additions before we recruit them. I know LR will have a view on budgets and income etc but we cannot go on like this. If our new owners are able to do a cash injection as was suggested of around £3M then fine, but that too will run out at some point if things aren't sorted soon. I want this club to be successful and I want us to retain our manager, even if he is as crazy as a box of frogs, at least we know that. I'm quite prepared to put up with him berating players if that is what it takes. He is his own man and not a puppet like others.

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Bloody Cold Steve?thought you were a tough Builder?you should be there with your short sleeved Town shirt on!LOL!!!!!

Oldhamred wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:
As I understand it PDC is under contract with the CURRENT owners of STFC which is ultimately Andrew Black.

If Paolo has claimed his position is "UNTENABLE" then surely that only applies whilst the current board is in place.

Once the new owners take up ownership, whoever they are his position would once again become "TENABLE".

Paolo's contract of employment will be with the company 'Swindon Town FC' or whatever the official company name is and not the owner or owners! There is a legal difference (LR as an accountant should back me up un this) or else all the employees including players would be free agents and be out of contracts...which isn't the case!

I understand that there would be a legal difference between STFC and A Black (Not sure why you need to have back up from LR on this?).

I'm not trying to make a legal point but rather how Paolo would view his position, tenable or not, once the new regime is in place.

I'm quite sure that nobody really gives a stuff who "owns" STFC providing it is on a sound financial footing and is looking to move forward in its development both on and off the pitch.

That sentiment will apply to PDC.

So once the new owners are installed and the necessary discussions have taken place, if Paolo is happy with what he is being told then his position will once again become tenable.

Quite simple really.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Bloody Cold Steve?thought you were a tough Builder?you should be there with your short sleeved Town shirt on!LOL!!!!!

Haha these days Don i tend to get others to do the work for me apart from driving or meeting clients and quoting i seem to be sat in my office (with the central heating on) guess i'm getting old :O) even the die hard angler in me tends to find more reasons why not to go when its freezing cold.Do they sell STFC long johns preferably with a carp on them in the shop at the CG...

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Bloody Cold Steve?thought you were a tough Builder?you should be there with your short sleeved Town shirt on!LOL!!!!!

Haha these days Don i tend to get others to do the work for me apart from driving or meeting clients and quoting i seem to be sat in my office (with the central heating on) guess i'm getting old :O) even the die hard angler in me tends to find more reasons why not to go when its freezing cold.Do they sell STFC long johns preferably with a carp on them in the shop at the CG...

That makes two of us,was gonna take the ol dog out for walk today(too bloody cold)so bribed one of my lads to do it!sat by the fire watching a bunch of over paid prem stars try to play football!!!!!!!

the don69 wrote:
anyone know what the fit and proper test actually consists of?is it both financial and criminal tests,for example would someone like Rupert Murdoch pass after all that hacking trouble in his corporation?or even a lot of Bankers after the dirty deals they've got up to?????????

the wizard wrote:

the don69 wrote:
anyone know what the fit and proper test actually consists of?is it both financial and criminal tests,for example would someone like Rupert Murdoch pass after all that hacking trouble in his corporation?or even a lot of Bankers after the dirty deals they've got up to?????????

I think it was Friday afternoon somebody put up a link to the relevant FL site and explanation.

John Young's Grumpy wrote:
Hey Sam or Adver,

How about you set up a page or section of the posting site where we can 'message' Paolo to tell him how we need him to stay, etc?

We can't contact him personally but thru the media we can convince him that we, STFC fans want him at the helm!!

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:

the don69 wrote:
anyone know what the fit and proper test actually consists of?is it both financial and criminal tests,for example would someone like Rupert Murdoch pass after all that hacking trouble in his corporation?or even a lot of Bankers after the dirty deals they've got up to?????????

I think it was Friday afternoon somebody put up a link to the relevant FL site and explanation.

I believe if you have a dodgy hand shake and wear one trouser leg pulled up to your knee then your`e in.

Lazaat wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:
As I understand it PDC is under contract with the CURRENT owners of STFC which is ultimately Andrew Black.

If Paolo has claimed his position is "UNTENABLE" then surely that only applies whilst the current board is in place.

Once the new owners take up ownership, whoever they are his position would once again become "TENABLE".

Paolo's contract of employment will be with the company 'Swindon Town FC' or whatever the official company name is and not the owner or owners! There is a legal difference (LR as an accountant should back me up un this) or else all the employees including players would be free agents and be out of contracts...which isn't the case!

I understand that there would be a legal difference between STFC and A Black (Not sure why you need to have back up from LR on this?).

I'm not trying to make a legal point but rather how Paolo would view his position, tenable or not, once the new regime is in place.

I'm quite sure that nobody really gives a stuff who "owns" STFC providing it is on a sound financial footing and is looking to move forward in its development both on and off the pitch.

That sentiment will apply to PDC.

So once the new owners are installed and the necessary discussions have taken place, if Paolo is happy with what he is being told then his position will once again become tenable.

Quite simple really.

Your original post implied to me that you were unsure if Paolos contract was with Andrew Black or the club, hence my answer...and your quite right I don't need LRs back up as I know as a fellow accountant that I am right in this! No doubt you will come back with another sarcastic reply to this and all because I was genuinely trying to answer your original question.

Lazaat wrote:

John Young's Grumpy wrote:
Hey Sam or Adver,

How about you set up a page or section of the posting site where we can 'message' Paolo to tell him how we need him to stay, etc?

We can't contact him personally but thru the media we can convince him that we, STFC fans want him at the helm!!

I would be surprised if Paolo and the players don't read these posts; in fact I bet some of the players even post on here occasionally?

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:

the don69 wrote:
anyone know what the fit and proper test actually consists of?is it both financial and criminal tests,for example would someone like Rupert Murdoch pass after all that hacking trouble in his corporation?or even a lot of Bankers after the dirty deals they've got up to?????????

I think it was Friday afternoon somebody put up a link to the relevant FL site and explanation.

I believe if you have a dodgy hand shake and wear one trouser leg pulled up to your knee then your`e in.

Will a Brown paper bag with the appropriate Bung do????????lol

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

John Young's Grumpy wrote:
Hey Sam or Adver,

How about you set up a page or section of the posting site where we can 'message' Paolo to tell him how we need him to stay, etc?

We can't contact him personally but thru the media we can convince him that we, STFC fans want him at the helm!!

I would be surprised if Paolo and the players don't read these posts; in fact I bet some of the players even post on here occasionally?

Hello Laz, i went yesterday and got a chance to chat with one of our players who started on the bench,i actually asked the lad if the players read thisis comments pages and with a big smile on his face he said "yes it gets mentioned from time to time" i also asked his views on whats going on at the club and he happily said " it should be all sorted out next week".I am convinced that at times one or two may post to put the record straight.

Cookie43 wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Laz
Wishy washy is a very very sad individual a loner with no mates he has never been to a football match as he sits at home all day because he is so lonley

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Bloody Cold Steve?thought you were a tough Builder?you should be there with your short sleeved Town shirt on!LOL!!!!!

Haha these days Don i tend to get others to do the work for me apart from driving or meeting clients and quoting i seem to be sat in my office (with the central heating on) guess i'm getting old :O) even the die hard angler in me tends to find more reasons why not to go when its freezing cold.Do they sell STFC long johns preferably with a carp on them in the shop at the CG...

Lazaat wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

John Young's Grumpy wrote:
Hey Sam or Adver,

How about you set up a page or section of the posting site where we can 'message' Paolo to tell him how we need him to stay, etc?

We can't contact him personally but thru the media we can convince him that we, STFC fans want him at the helm!!

I would be surprised if Paolo and the players don't read these posts; in fact I bet some of the players even post on here occasionally?

Hello Laz, i went yesterday and got a chance to chat with one of our players who started on the bench,i actually asked the lad if the players read thisis comments pages and with a big smile on his face he said "yes it gets mentioned from time to time" i also asked his views on whats going on at the club and he happily said " it should be all sorted out next week".I am convinced that at times one or two may post to put the record straight.

Hi Steve, I have always thought the manager and players read these posts to gauge the current mood of the Town fans, I'm sure this board is a good barometer of the general feeling of the fans? So the question is, which posters are really Town players? I will kick of Steve with guessing you are really Aiden Flint??? LOL

Cookie43 wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Laz
Wishy washy is a very very sad individual a loner with no mates he has never been to a football match as he sits at home all day because he is so lonley

jayden wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ?

And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least.

PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Bloody Cold Steve?thought you were a tough Builder?you should be there with your short sleeved Town shirt on!LOL!!!!!

Haha these days Don i tend to get others to do the work for me apart from driving or meeting clients and quoting i seem to be sat in my office (with the central heating on) guess i'm getting old :O) even the die hard angler in me tends to find more reasons why not to go when its freezing cold.Do they sell STFC long johns preferably with a carp on them in the shop at the CG...

Got a pair on myself steve but the carp is at the back.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

John Young's Grumpy wrote:
Hey Sam or Adver,

How about you set up a page or section of the posting site where we can 'message' Paolo to tell him how we need him to stay, etc?

We can't contact him personally but thru the media we can convince him that we, STFC fans want him at the helm!!

I would be surprised if Paolo and the players don't read these posts; in fact I bet some of the players even post on here occasionally?

Hello Laz, i went yesterday and got a chance to chat with one of our players who started on the bench,i actually asked the lad if the players read thisis comments pages and with a big smile on his face he said "yes it gets mentioned from time to time" i also asked his views on whats going on at the club and he happily said " it should be all sorted out next week".I am convinced that at times one or two may post to put the record straight.

Hi Steve, I have always thought the manager and players read these posts to gauge the current mood of the Town fans, I'm sure this board is a good barometer of the general feeling of the fans? So the question is, which posters are really Town players? I will kick of Steve with guessing you are really Aiden Flint??? LOL

If only i could be his age again :) height is all we have in common unfortunaly.

MY GO, are you bald and play in defence or midfield a a a macca???? ;O)

Lazaat wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Laz
Wishy washy is a very very sad individual a loner with no mates he has never been to a football match as he sits at home all day because he is so lonley

Hi Cookie, I wonder if mushy is really that D1ck called hugh who used to post on here BEFORE we won the 2nd division title and the Pox stayed down??

Yes we all recognise him for what he is M8, but I thought it was time we came clean and owned up about Paolo and our club LOL...so I hope he's now satisfied? And when us Town fans start supporting Poxford next season their average home gate will Quadruple...so they better finish that cowshed with 3 sides ground off???

Lazaat wrote:

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Yes it is true Mushy, Paolo is being chased by at least 20 clubs and has interviews lined up all this week, when he has decided which club to become manager off he will resign from Swindon Town FC and leave us in the lurch!!! Also...the new people will not be ratified by the Football league so we will go into Administration and promptly be docked 30 points as this is 3rd time and all our players will be either sold or loaned out, so the youth team will play out remaining fixtures this season so we will be relegated back to where we belong to 2nd division!!! During the close season we will cease to operate as a football club because we will be unable to full fill our fixtures next season...so the local councel will pull down our ground and build houses on the land...and all us broken hearted Swindon supporters will switch our allegiance to Oxford United and start supporting them next season :)

Cookie43 wrote:
Yes Laz he is that huge currant fella
You know the sad act keyboard warrior with no mates

Mushymushy wrote:
Just seen on Facebook pdc is going tomorrow to have talks with another club is this true,swindon are nothing with out him

Mushymushy wrote:
Just read a tweet from pdc that he's going to back to Italy till tues to rethink his position at swindon.
He also goes on to say thank you for all the lovely post on the adver web site.And especially from mushy mushy,such a loyal follower.

Mushymushy wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Someone on here has often said that if you draw your away games and win your home games, you go up. {Sorry, I cannot remember which poster}.

So on that basis, a valuable point today after a horrible few days!!

And we WILL beat Colchester and Hartlepool next week.

IF we can still sign the three new loans and I know it is a big if, we are going up with automatic promotion, WITHOUT DOUBT!!!!!!

Joey why has it been a horrible few days have you had a death in the family,has you cat been run over,have you had your bike stolen from out side tesco has you favourite jeans been ripped whilst climbing over a barb wire fence. Probably not so why has it been so horrible .

the wizard wrote:
Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ? And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Couchy125 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Obviously you haven't been to bournemouth for a long time. And I haven't had the pleasure of going to Swindon for about 20 years. I used to enjoy the banter with the staff at the shell station by the ground. I used to deliver there every day. I really do hope we both get promoted. Good luck with your new board.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote: Changing the subject somewhat, I hear that Rooney has improved quite a bit, does anyone see him as a rising star if he is with us next season, after a pre season with us in Italy ? And before anyone asks the question , yes our manager will be here if treated correctly and with respect by the new owners. I do think both he and Phil Spencer need to sit down with the new guys and be more realistic with budgets etc so we don't all go through this "horibilis" again. thats not a swipe or cheap remark, but we need some tight guidelines that safe guard the club, management and players. Constructive budgets for next season need to be put in place before the end of April at the latest so floundering mid season doesn't happen again.

Decent post Wiz however not you,me or even nostradamus can say that Paolo will leave or stay,the reason being is none of us know the full goings on at the club, of course we can speculate,so the part of your post that says "and if anyone asks the question" and you then go on to answer is a little presumptuous to say the least. PS bloody cold in the wind yesterday in Crawley,i found myself at times in the first half wishing id stayed at home and watched it on Sky.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg just heard someone in the savoy saying Pdc has quit is it true.

Mushymushy wrote:
Ok on a serious note every one is talking about pdc leaving but the important thing is when he goes who will replace him,I was in the sir dan this afternoon and the bloke behind the bar reckons mark Hughes but a little birdie told me john Barnes whats the opinion from the masses on the adver web site

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:
Yes Laz he is that huge currant fella
You know the sad act keyboard warrior with no mates

I thought that at first but remembered that Huge Currant used a lot of hoodie slang with loads of spelling mistakes and Mushme i believe is a wind up merchant who has/is a regular poster under another user-name,i am going to try and find out tomorrow if i am barking up the wrong tree

Lambourn Red wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Obviously you haven't been to bournemouth for a long time. And I haven't had the pleasure of going to Swindon for about 20 years. I used to enjoy the banter with the staff at the shell station by the ground. I used to deliver there every day. I really do hope we both get promoted. Good luck with your new board.

I said back at the beginning of November the top 2 would be muff and swindon if we come out of this in tact then I think it will be still be the same

Pewsham Red wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:
Yes Laz he is that huge currant fella
You know the sad act keyboard warrior with no mates

I thought that at first but remembered that Huge Currant used a lot of hoodie slang with loads of spelling mistakes and Mushme i believe is a wind up merchant who has/is a regular poster under another user-name,i am going to try and find out tomorrow if i am barking up the wrong tree

Steve, this guy can't be huge currant as, if I recall, he couldn't even string a sentence together and even on this site stood out as being particularly thick.

Whilst mushy is clearly an attention seeking imbecile with little else to occupy his time, his admittedly erudite posts suggest to me he is neither Hugh Curran or an Oxford fan.

Mushymushy wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:
Yes Laz he is that huge currant fella
You know the sad act keyboard warrior with no mates

I thought that at first but remembered that Huge Currant used a lot of hoodie slang with loads of spelling mistakes and Mushme i believe is a wind up merchant who has/is a regular poster under another user-name,i am going to try and find out tomorrow if i am barking up the wrong tree

Steve, this guy can't be huge currant as, if I recall, he couldn't even string a sentence together and even on this site stood out as being particularly thick.

Whilst mushy is clearly an attention seeking imbecile with little else to occupy his time, his admittedly erudite posts suggest to me he is neither Hugh Curran or an Oxford fan.

Pews ham unlike you I m swindon swindon through and through born and bred,unlike most of the reds on this site.

Okus Road wrote:

Lambourn Red wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote:

Couchy125 wrote:
Good morning all you swindle fans.sorry I couldn't post yesterday but was working. Anyway the cherries have taken your spot. Good win at mk dons don't you think. I must credit your mob with the draw. Happy days. Up the cherries.

were you working at one of you many OAP homes again or was it buy one purple rinse get one free at your salon? oh sorry you're a bingo caller! we're all over 60 we are Bournemouth we're all over 60.

Obviously you haven't been to bournemouth for a long time. And I haven't had the pleasure of going to Swindon for about 20 years. I used to enjoy the banter with the staff at the shell station by the ground. I used to deliver there every day. I really do hope we both get promoted. Good luck with your new board.

I said back at the beginning of November the top 2 would be muff and swindon if we come out of this in tact then I think it will be still be the same

Dark horses for a top 2 spot Yeovil. I still think we will win the league with average of 2 points per game, draw away and win at home. A win on Tuesday would put us in a good position to be top of the league by end of February.

It's time for the players to really stand up and be counted, to play for the badge and their own pride whatever happens next week.

If we get the loan players in next week no one will stop us, even without them I think we have a strong enough squad

For a top 2 finish.

As for Saturday I thought Flint was outstanding and although some had a go at him, Roberts had a decent 2nd half. The plus point was Rooneys performance coming off the bench, looks better than Martin and looks likely to poach a goal.

Next 2 games 6 points and we will be on course

Mushymushy wrote:
Ok on a serious note every one is talking about pdc leaving but the important thing is when he goes who will replace him,I was in the sir dan this afternoon and the bloke behind the bar reckons mark Hughes but a little birdie told me john Barnes whats the opinion from the masses on the adver web site

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
How many town fans made it to Crawley in the end?

stfc2012 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
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Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
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The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
....
What tosh!

This is extremely funny. To be accused of talking tripe amidst the foul language and knee jerk reaction that frequents this board. I do not know when I suggested I was a spokesperson for anyone other than myself so I think that is just you. I am giving my opinion on how I see the current situation. I have not presented anything as fact and I do not suggest I am 'in the know'. It seems if you can string 2 coherent sentences together, don't agree with the mouthy frequent posters and have a more dynamic way of thinking other than knee jerk you are in danger of being dubbed 'egotistical' and 'pompous'. I'd rather that than the same old 'heart on your sleeve but not much more' nonsense that is spouted.

And I think you'll find most managers under pressure are sacked before they move on or are forced in to saying it was a mutual agreement. My point is wasted on you. PDC will now be more active and more open to other positions that previously may not have been of interest to him. A big move yes but a sideways move would not have been considered until now. With the board not able to pay him off this is pretty clearly a game of cat and mouse. Make things difficult and force him to resign. He used words such as 'untenable' which he may now well regret as he is still here (for now). While currently making it clear to all and sundry he is ready to 'move on' those clubs potentially interested just need to give Phil a call. You don't accuse a new board of going behind your back if you plan on building a new relationship with them and you don't go behind your manager's back if you are planning to start a relationship with him. It's all politics now and both sides are essentially kissing babies trying to keep the fans on their side. PDC is firmly going to win this race as the others cannot really talk at present. Why else would he release the statement - he could have just had a wait and see policy rather than teasing he may leave to alert other clubs and win the fans over. He could have said ' I did not want to sell Matt Richie and did not sanction the sale'. That would have been enough and said a lot more with fewer words. We know no more from his long statement than we would have with the one above. If anything it has just confused everyone further and prompted the inevitable barrage of questions aimed at him which he now wishes not to answer.

In terms of the new board, I find it hard to believe they will be any where near as wealthy as the last board and even if they did have lots of money they should have learned by the previous example that throwing money around doesn't always give you what you want unless they want a mess like this. It's hard for a board to please fans. Look after the pennies and they are seen as unambitious but in contrast if they throw it around then usually it doesn't benefit the club in the long term. The new board will hopefully look at the income and try and stick within the wage budget and develop from the ground up with sensible salaries for players.

old town robin wrote:

the wizard wrote:
It seems that other clubs love to dish out ridicule towards us, BUT, how many come here and play on a mud pool. They don't. Our pitch is well maintained, well drained and treated well by ground staff who probably put the pitch as a big first in their life. Even after the snow, it was such a perfect surface. Wilson and our manager now have both stated how important the playing surface is and conjusive it is for playing good football.

BIG shame other clubs don't share that view or passion. Orient and Crawley, both would be big time Charlie clubs yet they haven't got a good pitch unless its August or September, even then its down to luck.
Perhaps the vacillaters from the FL should be looking into the standard of pitches and grounds as opposed to dragging their feet over our change of ownership. Ahsoles.

Wiz,
very good post, I can't think for the life of me why oi den has chosen to have a go at you for stating the obvious, there has been 3 of our games postponed away from home because none of them are capable of maintaining the state of their pitch, (I would also add it may be a coincidence, but all had injuries or players band which may have just made it easier for them not play their games).in my opinion they would never be able to participate at a higher level, regardless of how good their teams are today, the grounds are a disgrace, more the reason why we need to get out of this dreadful league.

By the way Den, I know you and LR usually like to have the last word and most times I don't have a problem with that because I do respect both your opinions. On this occassion with you I think you are totally out of order with your negative comments to Wiz, he has made a very valid point and I am totally in agreement with Wiz and very disappointed to read such negative views from you.

I think you owe him a big apology, because nothing you have said makes sense other than reasons you only know why have a go at a very valid point raised by a respected poster. Doh!

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

the don69 wrote:
Black has now said he sanctioned the Ritchie sale,as I said Black is still in charge until the buyers are given clearance,they can't do nothing or say nothing until they have control,Black is so desperate to get out asap he will sell to anyone and is virtually giving our club away,so Paolo is left in limbo and feeling very let down,after speaking to one of our players yesterday after the match,he has told his players he is waiting to see how all this plays out before deciding his action,so Black has not caused a car crash,he has caused a multiple pile up and is the dangerous driver just wanting to race away at high speed!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jockster wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
----
Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
----
The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
....
What tosh!

This is extremely funny. To be accused of talking tripe amidst the foul language and knee jerk reaction that frequents this board. I do not know when I suggested I was a spokesperson for anyone other than myself so I think that is just you. I am giving my opinion on how I see the current situation. I have not presented anything as fact and I do not suggest I am 'in the know'. It seems if you can string 2 coherent sentences together, don't agree with the mouthy frequent posters and have a more dynamic way of thinking other than knee jerk you are in danger of being dubbed 'egotistical' and 'pompous'. I'd rather that than the same old 'heart on your sleeve but not much more' nonsense that is spouted.

And I think you'll find most managers under pressure are sacked before they move on or are forced in to saying it was a mutual agreement. My point is wasted on you. PDC will now be more active and more open to other positions that previously may not have been of interest to him. A big move yes but a sideways move would not have been considered until now. With the board not able to pay him off this is pretty clearly a game of cat and mouse. Make things difficult and force him to resign. He used words such as 'untenable' which he may now well regret as he is still here (for now). While currently making it clear to all and sundry he is ready to 'move on' those clubs potentially interested just need to give Phil a call. You don't accuse a new board of going behind your back if you plan on building a new relationship with them and you don't go behind your manager's back if you are planning to start a relationship with him. It's all politics now and both sides are essentially kissing babies trying to keep the fans on their side. PDC is firmly going to win this race as the others cannot really talk at present. Why else would he release the statement - he could have just had a wait and see policy rather than teasing he may leave to alert other clubs and win the fans over. He could have said ' I did not want to sell Matt Richie and did not sanction the sale'. That would have been enough and said a lot more with fewer words. We know no more from his long statement than we would have with the one above. If anything it has just confused everyone further and prompted the inevitable barrage of questions aimed at him which he now wishes not to answer.

In terms of the new board, I find it hard to believe they will be any where near as wealthy as the last board and even if they did have lots of money they should have learned by the previous example that throwing money around doesn't always give you what you want unless they want a mess like this. It's hard for a board to please fans. Look after the pennies and they are seen as unambitious but in contrast if they throw it around then usually it doesn't benefit the club in the long term. The new board will hopefully look at the income and try and stick within the wage budget and develop from the ground up with sensible salaries for players.

Certainly is extremely funny especially -> STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...

the phrases "mirror mirror on the wall & pot kettle and black" spring to mind and provide an excellent self analysis of your critic -its so uncanny and very self descriptive lol!

Also hypocrisy is sometimes rife on here and Lydiard makes an excellent point ala "Wizards tone changed (or what Den has called bitterness if you like) when the Di Canio debates were going on weeks ago." Totally agree and I did ask Wiz then why he had such a downer on Pdc -or Canioman or our manager as Wiz likes to call him lol! I believe one of his gripes was that he didn't like Paolo bawling out players in public and yet today we read on this very forum from Wizard - " I'm quite prepared to put up with him berating players if that is what it takes. Now if that isnt pot kettle and black I don't know what is.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg just heard from a bloke in the spotted cow he reckons tues will be pdc last game with the town then hes off to Oldham.whats every one else think.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg just heard from a bloke in the spotted cow he reckons tues will be pdc last game with the town then hes off to Oldham.whats every one else think.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg just heard from a bloke in the spotted cow he reckons tues will be pdc last game with the town then hes off to Oldham.whats every one else think.

Mushymushy wrote:
Just read a tweet from pdc that he's going to back to Italy till tues to rethink his position at swindon.
He also goes on to say thank you for all the lovely post on the adver web site.And especially from mushy mushy,such a loyal follower.

Mushymushy wrote:
Omg just heard from a bloke in the spotted cow he reckons tues will be pdc last game with the town then hes off to Oldham.whats every one else think.

Oi Den! wrote:

old town robin wrote:

the wizard wrote:
It seems that other clubs love to dish out ridicule towards us, BUT, how many come here and play on a mud pool. They don't. Our pitch is well maintained, well drained and treated well by ground staff who probably put the pitch as a big first in their life. Even after the snow, it was such a perfect surface. Wilson and our manager now have both stated how important the playing surface is and conjusive it is for playing good football.

BIG shame other clubs don't share that view or passion. Orient and Crawley, both would be big time Charlie clubs yet they haven't got a good pitch unless its August or September, even then its down to luck.
Perhaps the vacillaters from the FL should be looking into the standard of pitches and grounds as opposed to dragging their feet over our change of ownership. Ahsoles.

Wiz,
very good post, I can't think for the life of me why oi den has chosen to have a go at you for stating the obvious, there has been 3 of our games postponed away from home because none of them are capable of maintaining the state of their pitch, (I would also add it may be a coincidence, but all had injuries or players band which may have just made it easier for them not play their games).in my opinion they would never be able to participate at a higher level, regardless of how good their teams are today, the grounds are a disgrace, more the reason why we need to get out of this dreadful league.

By the way Den, I know you and LR usually like to have the last word and most times I don't have a problem with that because I do respect both your opinions. On this occassion with you I think you are totally out of order with your negative comments to Wiz, he has made a very valid point and I am totally in agreement with Wiz and very disappointed to read such negative views from you.

I think you owe him a big apology, because nothing you have said makes sense other than reasons you only know why have a go at a very valid point raised by a respected poster. Doh!

OTR, I will explain why I do not believe I owe Wiz any apology.
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You say I made negative comments in response to a valid points raised by Wiz. On the contrary, Wiz has made several derogatory (i.e negative) comments recently about other football clubs and the Football League, and I was trying to point out that, far from having any basis in fact, that they were simply the result of his undoubted passion for STFC.
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Some of the difference between Wiz and me is simply a matter of opinion. He thinks the state of the pitch at Crawley was a big deal. I don't. I (like Wiz, I think) wasn't there, so I can't really say much about its condition. From the TV pictures, there certainly seemed to be a few bobbles, but the pitch didn't prevent Crawley producing a fast break from the back - all along the ground - in the first decent move of the game, from which they eventually scored. Nor did it stop De Vita and McCormack from linking brilliantly with some superb footwork to give Williams (I think) the headed chance that brought a fantastic save out of the Crawley keeper.
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To be quite honest, I think both teams used the pitch as an excuse for what was essentially a poor game of football. I don't think either side actually tried to play much, which brings me on to another point: this myth that we are a wonderful footballing side who suffer more than most on a difficult surface. We are now a strong physical outfit who can look after ourselves and cope well with any pitch and conditions. We do not play a wonderful passing game. PDC publicly abandoned that earlier in the season when he said we would now "be playing a more direct game by knocking balls into the channels. For a few weeks after that, the football we played was some of the worst I have seen from a Town team. Thankfully, that extreme seems to have passed and we now mix it up a lot more. So that's the opinion based difference.
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The rest of Wiz's argument - and I know it's not just him - is an insult to our fellow clubs. I believe it is a terrible slur to accuse clubs of cheating by manipulating their fixture lists, or of being unconcerned about the state of their pitches. How would we feel if we were accused of cheating? I think we know the answer to that, as it happened only last week. We were outraged. How would we feel if we had gone to the trouble of printing programmes, organising staff resources, ordering in food etc, only to find that our efforts had been thwarted by the weather - and then having salt rubbed into the wounds by being told that we didn't really want to play anyway and had cheated our way to getting the game postponed? It seems that our rivals are cheats if their pitch is unplayable and the game is postponed, and if they do manage to get a doubtful game played they are either cheats or incompetents because their pitch is not up to scratch.
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Our game is wonderful because it is at the mercy of many unpredictable elements. Let's abandon the search for perfect pitches, perfect referees and perfectly sanitised stadia, and enjoy the marvellous unpredictability of our fantastic winter game - or watch the Premier League on television.

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
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Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
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The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
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What tosh!

This is extremely funny. To be accused of talking tripe amidst the foul language and knee jerk reaction that frequents this board. I do not know when I suggested I was a spokesperson for anyone other than myself so I think that is just you. I am giving my opinion on how I see the current situation. I have not presented anything as fact and I do not suggest I am 'in the know'. It seems if you can string 2 coherent sentences together, don't agree with the mouthy frequent posters and have a more dynamic way of thinking other than knee jerk you are in danger of being dubbed 'egotistical' and 'pompous'. I'd rather that than the same old 'heart on your sleeve but not much more' nonsense that is spouted.

And I think you'll find most managers under pressure are sacked before they move on or are forced in to saying it was a mutual agreement. My point is wasted on you. PDC will now be more active and more open to other positions that previously may not have been of interest to him. A big move yes but a sideways move would not have been considered until now. With the board not able to pay him off this is pretty clearly a game of cat and mouse. Make things difficult and force him to resign. He used words such as 'untenable' which he may now well regret as he is still here (for now). While currently making it clear to all and sundry he is ready to 'move on' those clubs potentially interested just need to give Phil a call. You don't accuse a new board of going behind your back if you plan on building a new relationship with them and you don't go behind your manager's back if you are planning to start a relationship with him. It's all politics now and both sides are essentially kissing babies trying to keep the fans on their side. PDC is firmly going to win this race as the others cannot really talk at present. Why else would he release the statement - he could have just had a wait and see policy rather than teasing he may leave to alert other clubs and win the fans over. He could have said ' I did not want to sell Matt Richie and did not sanction the sale'. That would have been enough and said a lot more with fewer words. We know no more from his long statement than we would have with the one above. If anything it has just confused everyone further and prompted the inevitable barrage of questions aimed at him which he now wishes not to answer.

In terms of the new board, I find it hard to believe they will be any where near as wealthy as the last board and even if they did have lots of money they should have learned by the previous example that throwing money around doesn't always give you what you want unless they want a mess like this. It's hard for a board to please fans. Look after the pennies and they are seen as unambitious but in contrast if they throw it around then usually it doesn't benefit the club in the long term. The new board will hopefully look at the income and try and stick within the wage budget and develop from the ground up with sensible salaries for players.

Certainly is extremely funny especially -> STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...

the phrases "mirror mirror on the wall & pot kettle and black" spring to mind and provide an excellent self analysis of your critic -its so uncanny and very self descriptive lol!

Also hypocrisy is sometimes rife on here and Lydiard makes an excellent point ala "Wizards tone changed (or what Den has called bitterness if you like) when the Di Canio debates were going on weeks ago." Totally agree and I did ask Wiz then why he had such a downer on Pdc -or Canioman or our manager as Wiz likes to call him lol! I believe one of his gripes was that he didn't like Paolo bawling out players in public and yet today we read on this very forum from Wizard - " I'm quite prepared to put up with him berating players if that is what it takes. Now if that isnt pot kettle and black I don't know what is.

Jock,
You bring this up more times than the pendulum swings in a year. I have always said that I don't agree with the public berating of players. Lets get that straight, I have never denied that, BUT MANY OTHERS HAVE SAID THE SAME, so go pick on a few of those as well eh? lets see you start poping at them as well.
A complete NO, I have never said that I want him to go either, and if tollerating him doing his name/shame/blame thing is key to him staying then I have no problem with that, as you would never ever let that go, would you. You would love to blame somebody for that, but how about shifting the focus to your continuous downer on both Williams and Collins, "the WC two/the WC pair" as you have called them, and the fact you wanted them flushed out of the club, but you stand and applaud their goals, hypocrite ?????

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Yawn!!...I see the self appointed Mr Ego himself is back from the pub and needs to find a new boyfriend to protect!
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Get a life saddo!!!
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...and I'm not talking to Mishmash this time (can't be bothered wasting my time on that score).

Mushymushy wrote:
Just had last orders in the sun inn at coate and the bloke on the fruit machine reckons pdc is leaving swindon tonight on an easy jet flight and ain't coming back because he's pig sick of all the rubbish going on in the boardroom and the poor performance from his squad over the last month.what does everyone else think.

Mushymushy wrote:
Just had last orders in the sun inn at coate and the bloke on the fruit machine reckons pdc is leaving swindon tonight on an easy jet flight and ain't coming back because he's pig sick of all the rubbish going on in the boardroom and the poor performance from his squad over the last month.what does everyone else think.

Oi Den! wrote:

old town robin wrote:

the wizard wrote:
It seems that other clubs love to dish out ridicule towards us, BUT, how many come here and play on a mud pool. They don't. Our pitch is well maintained, well drained and treated well by ground staff who probably put the pitch as a big first in their life. Even after the snow, it was such a perfect surface. Wilson and our manager now have both stated how important the playing surface is and conjusive it is for playing good football.

BIG shame other clubs don't share that view or passion. Orient and Crawley, both would be big time Charlie clubs yet they haven't got a good pitch unless its August or September, even then its down to luck.
Perhaps the vacillaters from the FL should be looking into the standard of pitches and grounds as opposed to dragging their feet over our change of ownership. Ahsoles.

Wiz,
very good post, I can't think for the life of me why oi den has chosen to have a go at you for stating the obvious, there has been 3 of our games postponed away from home because none of them are capable of maintaining the state of their pitch, (I would also add it may be a coincidence, but all had injuries or players band which may have just made it easier for them not play their games).in my opinion they would never be able to participate at a higher level, regardless of how good their teams are today, the grounds are a disgrace, more the reason why we need to get out of this dreadful league.

By the way Den, I know you and LR usually like to have the last word and most times I don't have a problem with that because I do respect both your opinions. On this occassion with you I think you are totally out of order with your negative comments to Wiz, he has made a very valid point and I am totally in agreement with Wiz and very disappointed to read such negative views from you.

I think you owe him a big apology, because nothing you have said makes sense other than reasons you only know why have a go at a very valid point raised by a respected poster. Doh!

OTR, I will explain why I do not believe I owe Wiz any apology.
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You say I made negative comments in response to a valid points raised by Wiz. On the contrary, Wiz has made several derogatory (i.e negative) comments recently about other football clubs and the Football League, and I was trying to point out that, far from having any basis in fact, that they were simply the result of his undoubted passion for STFC.
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Some of the difference between Wiz and me is simply a matter of opinion. He thinks the state of the pitch at Crawley was a big deal. I don't. I (like Wiz, I think) wasn't there, so I can't really say much about its condition. From the TV pictures, there certainly seemed to be a few bobbles, but the pitch didn't prevent Crawley producing a fast break from the back - all along the ground - in the first decent move of the game, from which they eventually scored. Nor did it stop De Vita and McCormack from linking brilliantly with some superb footwork to give Williams (I think) the headed chance that brought a fantastic save out of the Crawley keeper.
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To be quite honest, I think both teams used the pitch as an excuse for what was essentially a poor game of football. I don't think either side actually tried to play much, which brings me on to another point: this myth that we are a wonderful footballing side who suffer more than most on a difficult surface. We are now a strong physical outfit who can look after ourselves and cope well with any pitch and conditions. We do not play a wonderful passing game. PDC publicly abandoned that earlier in the season when he said we would now "be playing a more direct game by knocking balls into the channels. For a few weeks after that, the football we played was some of the worst I have seen from a Town team. Thankfully, that extreme seems to have passed and we now mix it up a lot more. So that's the opinion based difference.
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The rest of Wiz's argument - and I know it's not just him - is an insult to our fellow clubs. I believe it is a terrible slur to accuse clubs of cheating by manipulating their fixture lists, or of being unconcerned about the state of their pitches. How would we feel if we were accused of cheating? I think we know the answer to that, as it happened only last week. We were outraged. How would we feel if we had gone to the trouble of printing programmes, organising staff resources, ordering in food etc, only to find that our efforts had been thwarted by the weather - and then having salt rubbed into the wounds by being told that we didn't really want to play anyway and had cheated our way to getting the game postponed? It seems that our rivals are cheats if their pitch is unplayable and the game is postponed, and if they do manage to get a doubtful game played they are either cheats or incompetents because their pitch is not up to scratch.
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Our game is wonderful because it is at the mercy of many unpredictable elements. Let's abandon the search for perfect pitches, perfect referees and perfectly sanitised stadia, and enjoy the marvellous unpredictability of our fantastic winter game - or watch the Premier League on television.

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
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Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
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The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
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What tosh!

This is extremely funny. To be accused of talking tripe amidst the foul language and knee jerk reaction that frequents this board. I do not know when I suggested I was a spokesperson for anyone other than myself so I think that is just you. I am giving my opinion on how I see the current situation. I have not presented anything as fact and I do not suggest I am 'in the know'. It seems if you can string 2 coherent sentences together, don't agree with the mouthy frequent posters and have a more dynamic way of thinking other than knee jerk you are in danger of being dubbed 'egotistical' and 'pompous'. I'd rather that than the same old 'heart on your sleeve but not much more' nonsense that is spouted.

And I think you'll find most managers under pressure are sacked before they move on or are forced in to saying it was a mutual agreement. My point is wasted on you. PDC will now be more active and more open to other positions that previously may not have been of interest to him. A big move yes but a sideways move would not have been considered until now. With the board not able to pay him off this is pretty clearly a game of cat and mouse. Make things difficult and force him to resign. He used words such as 'untenable' which he may now well regret as he is still here (for now). While currently making it clear to all and sundry he is ready to 'move on' those clubs potentially interested just need to give Phil a call. You don't accuse a new board of going behind your back if you plan on building a new relationship with them and you don't go behind your manager's back if you are planning to start a relationship with him. It's all politics now and both sides are essentially kissing babies trying to keep the fans on their side. PDC is firmly going to win this race as the others cannot really talk at present. Why else would he release the statement - he could have just had a wait and see policy rather than teasing he may leave to alert other clubs and win the fans over. He could have said ' I did not want to sell Matt Richie and did not sanction the sale'. That would have been enough and said a lot more with fewer words. We know no more from his long statement than we would have with the one above. If anything it has just confused everyone further and prompted the inevitable barrage of questions aimed at him which he now wishes not to answer.

In terms of the new board, I find it hard to believe they will be any where near as wealthy as the last board and even if they did have lots of money they should have learned by the previous example that throwing money around doesn't always give you what you want unless they want a mess like this. It's hard for a board to please fans. Look after the pennies and they are seen as unambitious but in contrast if they throw it around then usually it doesn't benefit the club in the long term. The new board will hopefully look at the income and try and stick within the wage budget and develop from the ground up with sensible salaries for players.

Certainly is extremely funny especially -> STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...

the phrases "mirror mirror on the wall & pot kettle and black" spring to mind and provide an excellent self analysis of your critic -its so uncanny and very self descriptive lol!

Also hypocrisy is sometimes rife on here and Lydiard makes an excellent point ala "Wizards tone changed (or what Den has called bitterness if you like) when the Di Canio debates were going on weeks ago." Totally agree and I did ask Wiz then why he had such a downer on Pdc -or Canioman or our manager as Wiz likes to call him lol! I believe one of his gripes was that he didn't like Paolo bawling out players in public and yet today we read on this very forum from Wizard - " I'm quite prepared to put up with him berating players if that is what it takes. Now if that isnt pot kettle and black I don't know what is.

Jock,
You bring this up more times than the pendulum swings in a year. I have always said that I don't agree with the public berating of players. Lets get that straight, I have never denied that, BUT MANY OTHERS HAVE SAID THE SAME, so go pick on a few of those as well eh? lets see you start poping at them as well.
A complete NO, I have never said that I want him to go either, and if tollerating him doing his name/shame/blame thing is key to him staying then I have no problem with that, as you would never ever let that go, would you. You would love to blame somebody for that, but how about shifting the focus to your continuous downer on both Williams and Collins, "the WC two/the WC pair" as you have called them, and the fact you wanted them flushed out of the club, but you stand and applaud their goals, hypocrite ?????

Guilty as charged re the bog roll two!! :) Just to be consistent and non-hypocritical they were both cr@p against Crawley weren't they? AND OTHERS HAVE SAID THE SAME :)
They made A Rooney look like W Rooney when he came on.There you go Wiz anybody can twist words to suit - so how do you explain that its not only me who appears to have noticed a change to the tone of your posts then?

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Lazaat wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
New board want PDC out. It's obvious. PDC making it hard for them. No way this will all blow over and everyone be friends. He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before. Board know they can't compete with him on popularity so not being able to talk at the moment suits them. PDC said enough in his statement so don't expect too much more in the next few days unless its to announce departure although I'd imagine this wont happen until we have the week with no fixtures.

First of all why is it obvious the new people want Paolo out? If true then why? And don't say it's because his salary is too high as I think the gates will drop if Paolo leaves. Everything is conjecture at the moment and if the new people are not allowed their say until ratification by the Football League then maybe it's best to adopt a wait and see policy?

Paolo has unfinished business at Swindon and will want to finish what he started (if possible) because that is the sort of guy he is, and if he resigns from a managers job every time there is board problem etc then he may as well forget about a future in Management, he is a very intelligent man and will realise this.

I think he is now waiting to see if the new people are approved and if so will the 3 players then join us next weekend? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes then why would he leave? He will then try and finish what he started and get us promoted into the Championship...I guess if he achieved that he would have a string of big clubs vying for his signature!

But if the new people are just chancers and they are not approved which means the 3 players will not be joining us...hence almost certain Administration; then he will quit and our season will be over and our long term future will be under severe threat!!! Fingers crossed or a good outcome next week.

Finally...please ignore that Poxford fool MM as some of you are just feeding him what he wants!

Good post Lazz.

Well done Lazz!....STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...I'm fast coming to the opinion (my own opinion though) that they were factually correct in their description.
----
Actually, being honest I came to agree the moment they posted it but thought I'd just make something up as well.
----
The statement:
"He will bide his time and when the right move is there he will go unless sacked before."
......that applies to every manager in the game doesn't it?....I'll bet a pound that he does decide to leave before he gets sacked....oh and that is Sir Alex I'm talking about....oh hang nope it's errr - well any of them.
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What tosh!

This is extremely funny. To be accused of talking tripe amidst the foul language and knee jerk reaction that frequents this board. I do not know when I suggested I was a spokesperson for anyone other than myself so I think that is just you. I am giving my opinion on how I see the current situation. I have not presented anything as fact and I do not suggest I am 'in the know'. It seems if you can string 2 coherent sentences together, don't agree with the mouthy frequent posters and have a more dynamic way of thinking other than knee jerk you are in danger of being dubbed 'egotistical' and 'pompous'. I'd rather that than the same old 'heart on your sleeve but not much more' nonsense that is spouted.

And I think you'll find most managers under pressure are sacked before they move on or are forced in to saying it was a mutual agreement. My point is wasted on you. PDC will now be more active and more open to other positions that previously may not have been of interest to him. A big move yes but a sideways move would not have been considered until now. With the board not able to pay him off this is pretty clearly a game of cat and mouse. Make things difficult and force him to resign. He used words such as 'untenable' which he may now well regret as he is still here (for now). While currently making it clear to all and sundry he is ready to 'move on' those clubs potentially interested just need to give Phil a call. You don't accuse a new board of going behind your back if you plan on building a new relationship with them and you don't go behind your manager's back if you are planning to start a relationship with him. It's all politics now and both sides are essentially kissing babies trying to keep the fans on their side. PDC is firmly going to win this race as the others cannot really talk at present. Why else would he release the statement - he could have just had a wait and see policy rather than teasing he may leave to alert other clubs and win the fans over. He could have said ' I did not want to sell Matt Richie and did not sanction the sale'. That would have been enough and said a lot more with fewer words. We know no more from his long statement than we would have with the one above. If anything it has just confused everyone further and prompted the inevitable barrage of questions aimed at him which he now wishes not to answer.

In terms of the new board, I find it hard to believe they will be any where near as wealthy as the last board and even if they did have lots of money they should have learned by the previous example that throwing money around doesn't always give you what you want unless they want a mess like this. It's hard for a board to please fans. Look after the pennies and they are seen as unambitious but in contrast if they throw it around then usually it doesn't benefit the club in the long term. The new board will hopefully look at the income and try and stick within the wage budget and develop from the ground up with sensible salaries for players.

Certainly is extremely funny especially -> STFC2012 talks a lot of tripe at times and seems to think they're speaking on behalf of others...a pompous egotistical viewpoint is how another poster described them...

the phrases "mirror mirror on the wall & pot kettle and black" spring to mind and provide an excellent self analysis of your critic -its so uncanny and very self descriptive lol!

Also hypocrisy is sometimes rife on here and Lydiard makes an excellent point ala "Wizards tone changed (or what Den has called bitterness if you like) when the Di Canio debates were going on weeks ago." Totally agree and I did ask Wiz then why he had such a downer on Pdc -or Canioman or our manager as Wiz likes to call him lol! I believe one of his gripes was that he didn't like Paolo bawling out players in public and yet today we read on this very forum from Wizard - " I'm quite prepared to put up with him berating players if that is what it takes. Now if that isnt pot kettle and black I don't know what is.

Jock,
You bring this up more times than the pendulum swings in a year. I have always said that I don't agree with the public berating of players. Lets get that straight, I have never denied that, BUT MANY OTHERS HAVE SAID THE SAME, so go pick on a few of those as well eh? lets see you start poping at them as well.
A complete NO, I have never said that I want him to go either, and if tollerating him doing his name/shame/blame thing is key to him staying then I have no problem with that, as you would never ever let that go, would you. You would love to blame somebody for that, but how about shifting the focus to your continuous downer on both Williams and Collins, "the WC two/the WC pair" as you have called them, and the fact you wanted them flushed out of the club, but you stand and applaud their goals, hypocrite ?????

Guilty as charged re the bog roll two!! :) Just to be consistent and non-hypocritical they were both cr@p against Crawley weren't they? AND OTHERS HAVE SAID THE SAME :)
They made A Rooney look like W Rooney when he came on.There you go Wiz anybody can twist words to suit - so how do you explain that its not only me who appears to have noticed a change to the tone of your posts then?

the wizard wrote:
Den, You have your opinion on this and I have mine, no apologies needed. I haven't deliberately set out to cross swords with you, but I still think some clubs, not all, could do a lot more. The fact that they haven't leaves them open. It is however strange that L.O got our match postponed, it continued to rain and the next game was on, but their injured players were back. call it speculation, co-incidence or act of God. That said L.O have been in the league for years and as such it should be expected for them to be able to deal with this sort of situation.
They know how their pitch reacts to rainfall, their problem, they should deal with it.
I find it strange that in this day and age of regulation there seems to be little legislation by the FL to ensure that pitches are adequately drained etc. Snow I can sympathise with as it is so random, but our main man showed what can be done if you ask for help. Oxford did nothing, match postponed, it reflects ambition and desire of the people trying to drive the club forwards, and supporters will help.
I'm not on a one man crusade or anything like that, but I am frankly amazed some clubs do so little while others do a lot. I received both sides of the argument here, but I think some can see that I am trying to be constructive and asking why ???? some clubs are not doing more and they should be. Its Sunday, its late, but its been a healthy debate. lets just hope this week sees a new dawn for our club, and our progress continues, and I hope something comes up that we can mutually agree on and laugh over. Cheers.