Town could field 13-man squad at Colchester (From Swindon Advertiser)

We used to have more than that turn out for Sunday League when I used to play. You realise how bad things have become when you read things like this. Paolo must be at his wits end.

Can't moan with 13 Paolo when your leaving cox/Rooney at home.
Also Bradley wright Phillips was on the Charlton bench Saturday so looks as if this good player won't be coming once the takeover happens.
Onwards and upwards

I can understand not risking Rooney so we don't scupper the deal for Pack with an injury but surely Cox is a better option than no one at all.

I can understand not risking Rooney so we don't scupper the deal for Pack with an injury but surely Cox is a better option than no one at all.

If we are down to 13, who are the ones that are fit? my guess would be

Fodders,
Macca
Ward
Flint
De Vita
Roberts
Ferry
Miller
Navarro
Collins
A Rooney
Bedwell
LThompson

Doubtfuls,

McEverley
N Thompson
Williams

Could be a little bit of kidology from Paolo, but I do think we might struggle to field more than 16 if he doesn't want to include consider Cox or L Rooney.
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Fecking Mess!at the bottom Paolo says we know who we have thank?so i won't put it all on RED!!!!!!!!!

Blame?

Luke Rooney good impact sub give him and cox a second chance come on you reds

Any snow forecast for Colchester?could do with a FT get the game called off lol.

Paolo get yer boots on and registered (sorry about that word).

Jed needs to be talking to PDC right now. He needs to explain the make up of his consortium, their planned relationship with PDC and what financial plans he has for the future. Getting to the Championship will cost, but staying there will cost even more, as the days of free transfer and loan players will become the exception rather than the rule.
Without these assurances PDC SHOULD resign. He has his reputation to think about.
Like everyone else I hope he stays, but we need to see the colour of Jeds money, and some honest appraisal of where he wants STFC to be in the future.
Final thought - if Jed does not plan to back PDC into the Championship, why did the board accept his offer?
Other bidders may have taken longer to get a deal in place, but perhaps their offers were better in the long run.
Will we ever know?

PDC is being asked to work under very difficult circumstances and the new owners need to remember this when they eventually take over STFC
We are going tomorrow nite to cheer on the PDC army!!
COYR's

Surely we can get Cox and Rooney on the bench? I understand we may not want to risk them, but surely Rooney won't/can't go anywhere until the Pack issue is resolved (if it ever gets resolved).

With Ritchie gone might be a good time to get him involved and get some match fitness.

No excuses for not taking Rooney & Cox if fit except to make a point.

outlaw2 wrote:
Jed needs to be talking to PDC right now. He needs to explain the make up of his consortium, their planned relationship with PDC and what financial plans he has for the future. Getting to the Championship will cost, but staying there will cost even more, as the days of free transfer and loan players will become the exception rather than the rule.
Without these assurances PDC SHOULD resign. He has his reputation to think about.
Like everyone else I hope he stays, but we need to see the colour of Jeds money, and some honest appraisal of where he wants STFC to be in the future.
Final thought - if Jed does not plan to back PDC into the Championship, why did the board accept his offer?
Other bidders may have taken longer to get a deal in place, but perhaps their offers were better in the long run.
Will we ever know?

I take it you don't read anything in life?
He is NOT aloud to talk to anyone until the deal goes through.
Give me strength aaaarrrrgggghhhh
Onwards and upwards

Loan deals will happen if sale ratified - he cannot play Rooney otherwise an injury could ruin that one.
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I'm getting the impression that Cox is likely to be more of a liability than a benefit on the bench unless he is included in the 'tactics' ragrding the rest of the numbers - he should have 15 for tomorrow at least.....
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I'm on my down tomorrow now and FULLY expecting a performance and a half despite the condition of their pitch.
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Sale will be ratified Wed/Thur and loans will now arrive on Friday!!..Happy Days!

Hopefully Storey will be back soon.

Come on you REDS

Pdc will be even more of a legend when he pull this one off. 3 points tomorrow.

This is a sad state of affairs, but, Devera aside, if u had to choose who not to take, it would probably be the unavailable ones.

Coyr's.

The darkest hour is before the dawn

wish he took cox and rooney i think PDC has lost the plot mind not on the job anymore get him out last straw for me needs to mature comments hes made lately lets get a new man in solve the ritchie mising link recall caddis i love pdc dont get me wrong but i think hes gone too far as for rooney strange we wanna get rid i really rate the lad as for pack isnt he a centre midfielder havent we got enough in that area

Davidsyrett wrote:
No excuses for not taking Rooney & Cox if fit except to make a point.

Or just maybe it might be because they havent trained with us for months and we all know how much training pdc takes into account before he picks a player. not only that i dont think pdc would risk his reputation just to make a point......

I'll play!!! Get the No. 10 shirt on Paolo!!! Together we will destroy Colchester!...

who am i wrote:

Davidsyrett wrote:
No excuses for not taking Rooney & Cox if fit except to make a point.

Or just maybe it might be because they havent trained with us for months and we all know how much training pdc takes into account before he picks a player. not only that i dont think pdc would risk his reputation just to make a point......

....the squad are really together of late maybe he's worried about having some negativity around!?
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Rooney the pokey fans warned us that he needs to deliver more as his ego is bigger than his talent at the moment, Cox did well in patches last season but had an awful lot of MiA games last season.
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I'd rather take 15 and commit the squad to getting the result....still think we have a few mind games going on here.

This a bit of planet Paolo trying to make a point as he can pick from youth team players to make the bench up

We all need to realise money has gone even Paolo

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

who am i wrote:

Davidsyrett wrote:
No excuses for not taking Rooney & Cox if fit except to make a point.

Or just maybe it might be because they havent trained with us for months and we all know how much training pdc takes into account before he picks a player. not only that i dont think pdc would risk his reputation just to make a point......

....the squad are really together of late maybe he's worried about having some negativity around!?
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Rooney the pokey fans warned us that he needs to deliver more as his ego is bigger than his talent at the moment, Cox did well in patches last season but had an awful lot of MiA games last season.
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I'd rather take 15 and commit the squad to getting the result....still think we have a few mind games going on here.

I did say "If Fit", but like SAPF I would much rather see 15 men on the bench even if he had little intention of playing them, what happens if we had 3 injuries, down to 10 men?

Just get on with it.

the don69 wrote:
Fecking Mess!at the bottom Paolo says we know who we have thank?so i won't put it all on RED!!!!!!!!!

Not a happy Man with this is he !! and to be fair I can't argue against PDC.
The plan has changed.

jayden wrote:
Just get on with it.

Agreed.

With Bedwell one of the 13 that's 1 outfield player only? Really?

Smacks of proving a point but just put a few youngsters on the bench to make up the numbers if it is that bad. Can't blame Black for the players feeling ill. I believe we are paying Cox and Rooney a salary so why can't they be involved?

I would start Navarro and Adam Rooney tomorrow and give Willo and Ferry a rest if possible and its a bit more beach football.

Wouldn't it be great though to see Paolo himself up front? Now that would bring in the casuals. Master stroke from Black, gradually wipe out the squad so Paolo has to don his boots, quids in! (Only joking of course)

Pewsham Red wrote:
Surely we can get Cox and Rooney on the bench? I understand we may not want to risk them, but surely Rooney won't/can't go anywhere until the Pack issue is resolved (if it ever gets resolved).

With Ritchie gone might be a good time to get him involved and get some match fitness.

I agree mate. But failing that I'm happy to play.

There will be players on the bench. Otherwise why give Colchester a heads up on this? He's made a point but its really just a statement to say he needs players or look what happens.

stfc2012 wrote:
There will be players on the bench. Otherwise why give Colchester a heads up on this? He's made a point but its really just a statement to say he needs players or look what happens.

agree - you would keep this quiet unless you were trying to make a statement. New owners tomorrow maybe!!!!

This sort of nonsense is just playing to the fans' fears and putting a gun to the new owners' heads.

It's no different to Redknapp naming 2 sub keepers the other week. The stupid thing is, the QPR board fell for his little stunt and splashed a load of cash they can't afford.

Maybe we'd have more than 13 players available if Di Canio hadn't brought so many in only to ship them out again?

Sorry Pdc get on with what you have,play Luke rooney,recall Benson if you can,but don´t please go on with I only have 13 fit players DO YOUR JOB as best you can you know the Fans love you.
We will not know the outcome of the FL approval until later this week so please do the business you can do IT
Hate all this propeganda ****
The club is Skint however if anyone can pull a rabbit out of the hat it´s pdc so come on BOSSS do it

Thought he only had 15 on sat as collins and williams were that bad or were they one of the ones that were ill.

Stratton Red wrote:
I'll play!!! Get the No. 10 shirt on Paolo!!! Together we will destroy Colchester!...

LOL brilliant post...made me laugh Stratton Red

jayden wrote:
Thought he only had 15 on sat as collins and williams were that bad or were they one of the ones that were ill.

Williams was one of those ill as was Rooney....plus Thompson and Fodders.
...so most of the ill players were on the pitch at the start.

Its already been said but until the sale has officially been ratified Jed or anyone else cannot answer fans questions or Paolos questions

If Paolo chooses to go to Colchester with 13/14 that is his choice and not the fault of the board. He has two professional footballers who are paid to work for Swindon town available to him to utilise. Risking injury does not come into it at all, they are paid to play for our club unless out on loan which they are not. Also any player, starting or squad player risks injury every day they train so its not really a reason. Simple fact is they should both be used in the squad otherwise why are we wasting money paying players "not" to play?

I don't understand why people are surprised by this current situation. Big money was paid out last season and continued to be paid out this season. Average attendance at the County Ground has been around 7000-8000 which needs to be higher to stand any chance of sustaining the high wages and fees paid out.

If you as a person earnt £100 a week and spent £200 on your shopping a week what do you think would happen over a period of time?

Simple facts are that getting to where we are on the income streams were never sustainable over a period of time and we have now reached the point where the spending has had to stop or the club goes bust.

I would rather have a mid table league one team to watch living within its means than chase the dream and go bust!

Have patience, see what happens with the new owners when it eventually gets sorted but for the love of god Paolo use common sense and use Cox and Rooney (both your signings costing a combined total of over £300,000)

You get the feeling of how hurt he is from the BBC interview - it finishes by saying:
"And Di Canio insists he has not been in contact with the board regarding their current situation: "I'm here and working alone, with my players and staff."
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"I haven't met with them in the last four months. I'm working and, to be honest, I don't want to see anyone at the moment. There are too many lies."

110% behind Paolo, take the players committed to the cause, Rooney,Cox have done nothing for us so what motivation do they have for tommorrow.
I 'd rather take 13 Gladiators. As for fans that want statements from the club, until the deal is done you won't hear anything. Deal will be done this week Paolo will get his players ....appy Days

Andy Evo wrote:
Its already been said but until the sale has officially been ratified Jed or anyone else cannot answer fans questions or Paolos questions

If Paolo chooses to go to Colchester with 13/14 that is his choice and not the fault of the board. He has two professional footballers who are paid to work for Swindon town available to him to utilise. Risking injury does not come into it at all, they are paid to play for our club unless out on loan which they are not. Also any player, starting or squad player risks injury every day they train so its not really a reason. Simple fact is they should both be used in the squad otherwise why are we wasting money paying players "not" to play?

I don't understand why people are surprised by this current situation. Big money was paid out last season and continued to be paid out this season. Average attendance at the County Ground has been around 7000-8000 which needs to be higher to stand any chance of sustaining the high wages and fees paid out.

If you as a person earnt £100 a week and spent £200 on your shopping a week what do you think would happen over a period of time?

Simple facts are that getting to where we are on the income streams were never sustainable over a period of time and we have now reached the point where the spending has had to stop or the club goes bust.

I would rather have a mid table league one team to watch living within its means than chase the dream and go bust!

Have patience, see what happens with the new owners when it eventually gets sorted but for the love of god Paolo use common sense and use Cox and Rooney (both your signings costing a combined total of over £300,000)

Blimey, one of the most sensible posts on here for ages ...

When you're down it all goes against you...... Shame we've let Risser and Benson go, at least they would have given us an option. Typical the injuries we have, we don't want anymore or suspensions. We need Phil King, Steve White and Charlie Henry to pull their boots on.

@Andy Evo

Question:
If you as a person earnt £100 a week and spent £200 on your shopping a week what do you think would happen over a period of time?

Answer: You would get a big belly lol

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Actually an excellent post.

King Red wrote:
When you're down it all goes against you...... Shame we've let Risser and Benson go, at least they would have given us an option. Typical the injuries we have, we don't want anymore or suspensions. We need Phil King, Steve White and Charlie Henry to pull their boots on.

Phil King's jokes would kill off any attempt to attack the Swindon goal - he'd only need to start telling them once they crossed the halfway line and they'd retreat in double quick time!!
:-)
....sorry Kingy if you're reading this!! and I'm still waiting for the child maintenance payments to start!! :-)

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

the don69 wrote:
Fecking Mess!at the bottom Paolo says we know who we have thank?so i won't put it all on RED!!!!!!!!!

Not a happy Man with this is he !! and to be fair I can't argue against PDC.
The plan has changed.

That's spot on Duke!Paolo has said that he's had no help from Black and that he's been told lies,Black just pulled the plug and wanted out,there's a short interview on the beeb website,if you haven't seen it!!!!!!!!!!!

He's using the siege mentality. Just think how fired up the small band of players will be tomorrow night.

I am sorry but I have lost my patience now. No player or manager is bigger than the club when employed by the club.

PDC should play Luke Rooney and Cox and stop acting like a kid, if not we will lose badly tomorrow night.

Everybody at the club is acting very stupidly, we are a laughing stock !!!

Andy Evo wrote:
Its already been said but until the sale has officially been ratified Jed or anyone else cannot answer fans questions or Paolos questions

If Paolo chooses to go to Colchester with 13/14 that is his choice and not the fault of the board. He has two professional footballers who are paid to work for Swindon town available to him to utilise. Risking injury does not come into it at all, they are paid to play for our club unless out on loan which they are not. Also any player, starting or squad player risks injury every day they train so its not really a reason. Simple fact is they should both be used in the squad otherwise why are we wasting money paying players "not" to play?

I don't understand why people are surprised by this current situation. Big money was paid out last season and continued to be paid out this season. Average attendance at the County Ground has been around 7000-8000 which needs to be higher to stand any chance of sustaining the high wages and fees paid out.

If you as a person earnt £100 a week and spent £200 on your shopping a week what do you think would happen over a period of time?

Simple facts are that getting to where we are on the income streams were never sustainable over a period of time and we have now reached the point where the spending has had to stop or the club goes bust.

I would rather have a mid table league one team to watch living within its means than chase the dream and go bust!

Have patience, see what happens with the new owners when it eventually gets sorted but for the love of god Paolo use common sense and use Cox and Rooney (both your signings costing a combined total of over £300,000)

Agreed. Where did people think all this was going to end? It's not all PDC's spending but still it was not really helping things. Only so much cash we could generate. Interesting to see how the Adidas, FIFA, Samsung, 442 deals will fare as obviously tied up by the last lot who were very well connected. With PDC I'd imagine we could command more in terms of sponsorship than without but at this level it's not silly money. We need some really clever management on the pitch too. Can PDC actually work within a budget? Can he identify young, hungry players to do a job in a system that can stay in the league we are in? Can he deal with the niggles and stop them becoming a pay-off situation? Can he mature as a manager in terms of slating players in favour of being diplomatic. Fods a great signing and Williams and Collins look decent as does Devita but percentage wise too many duds. Our recruitment needs to change as does man management. Get this right and he can be thought of as a REAL prospect. Continue as before and he's a Chairman's nightmare but will get jobs off of his name in the lower leagues. He's still a young manager and loves the game but needs to adapt and keep growing.

Some of the posts on here are having a laugh, I think God will be staying, I'm using the positives out of this, just like the hammering at Preston, to make the point, our has to be done, we might lose tomorrow night, but get more players in...if we do, I will be happy...

PS stop going on about money, and stupid analagies of over spending, or to put it another way, if you go shopping with £200 for the yearly total, but the boss says half way through the year, your not having no money, your budget its taken away, you haven't been bad money managers, you've been shafted....simples

PS I would like to share a motto with you all,

In life, you reap, what you sow,

Which translates thus, those that called Mr black on twitter, got what they aimed for, our best player stolen from us, and, just maybe, God walking out on us....I think he will stay still, hope, he will...

Some of the posts on here are not even from Swindon fans, and some, I wonder if you ARE Swindon fans...

For me its
COYMRs

In time we will hear what has happened, that time is not now...

Peace to one and all, including the quite obvious non Swindon fans...

jonnyb4532 wrote:
wish he took cox and rooney i think PDC has lost the plot mind not on the job anymore get him out last straw for me needs to mature comments hes made lately lets get a new man in solve the ritchie mising link recall caddis i love pdc dont get me wrong but i think hes gone too far as for rooney strange we wanna get rid i really rate the lad as for pack isnt he a centre midfielder havent we got enough in that area

Take a breath man and learn to punctuate. I know this is not an English language forum but really if you are going to put across criticisms do so in a way the rest of us can understand. Why would he recall Caddis I don’t think we have any major issues at full back? You need to move on as he is gone for the season.

"PS stop going on about money, and stupid analagies of over spending, or to put it another way, if you go shopping with £200 for the yearly total, but the boss says half way through the year, your not having no money, your budget its taken away, you haven't been bad money managers, you've been shafted....simples".
.......STFC Man&Boy he didn't have his money taken away. The money put by for January ended up being used I believe for the fees for Henville and Collins, players that he wanted, thats not the Boards fault surely?

If you factor in the money that has been wasted on pay offs and wages for the likes of Magera, Lanzano, Commazi, Atiku, Rooney, Cox, Risser to name just a few perhaps there would still be money left in the pot.

I would love to see Town up in the Championship but lets be realistic, if we have now hit the bottom of our piggy bank and struggling to afford what we have, unless this new consortium are unbelievably rich how on earth will we afford Championship football as there are some serious big hitters in there?!

Lazaat wrote:

Stratton Red wrote:
I'll play!!! Get the No. 10 shirt on Paolo!!! Together we will destroy Colchester!...

LOL brilliant post...made me laugh Stratton Red

Laz -Stratton is actually Walter Mitty - just cos he's now got his level 1 coaching badge with the kids he thinks he's Paolo himself lol!

Andy Evo wrote:
"PS stop going on about money, and stupid analagies of over spending, or to put it another way, if you go shopping with £200 for the yearly total, but the boss says half way through the year, your not having no money, your budget its taken away, you haven't been bad money managers, you've been shafted....simples".

.......STFC Man&Boy he didn't have his money taken away. The money put by for January ended up being used I believe for the fees for Henville and Collins, players that he wanted, thats not the Boards fault surely?

If you factor in the money that has been wasted on pay offs and wages for the likes of Magera, Lanzano, Commazi, Atiku, Rooney, Cox, Risser to name just a few perhaps there would still be money left in the pot.

I would love to see Town up in the Championship but lets be realistic, if we have now hit the bottom of our piggy bank and struggling to afford what we have, unless this new consortium are unbelievably rich how on earth will we afford Championship football as there are some serious big hitters in there?!

At last a voice of common sense.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

King Red wrote:
When you're down it all goes against you...... Shame we've let Risser and Benson go, at least they would have given us an option. Typical the injuries we have, we don't want anymore or suspensions. We need Phil King, Steve White and Charlie Henry to pull their boots on.

Phil King's jokes would kill off any attempt to attack the Swindon goal - he'd only need to start telling them once they crossed the halfway line and they'd retreat in double quick time!!
:-)
....sorry Kingy if you're reading this!! and I'm still waiting for the child maintenance payments to start!! :-)

At least Kingy's jokes are mildly amusing which is more than can be said for your attempts at humour on occasion :) What's all this child maintenance? Are you saying Kingy's your father? You must be Damian then lol!!

Thanks for your endearing compliments on the match day thread- its good to know you care -now how does the song go -"You've got me under your skin...."

STFCman&boy1973 wrote:
Some of the posts on here are having a laugh, I think God will be staying, I'm using the positives out of this, just like the hammering at Preston, to make the point, our has to be done, we might lose tomorrow night, but get more players in...if we do, I will be happy...

PS stop going on about money, and stupid analagies of over spending, or to put it another way, if you go shopping with £200 for the yearly total, but the boss says half way through the year, your not having no money, your budget its taken away, you haven't been bad money managers, you've been shafted....simples

PS I would like to share a motto with you all,

In life, you reap, what you sow,

Which translates thus, those that called Mr black on twitter, got what they aimed for, our best player stolen from us, and, just maybe, God walking out on us....I think he will stay still, hope, he will...

Some of the posts on here are not even from Swindon fans, and some, I wonder if you ARE Swindon fans...

For me its
COYMRs

In time we will hear what has happened, that time is not now...

Peace to one and all, including the quite obvious non Swindon fans...

If he's naming thirteen players just to prove a point and try to get new players in, what happens if the new board want to run a tighter ship financially?

Hopefully the loan signings will be here by the end of the week, but if you've just taken over a football club do you really want a manager holding a gun to your head and demanding you splash the cash or he'll walk out? If you cave in, he'll do it the next time, and the next time, and all the time a large number of fans are posting, "Well done, Paolo, sticking up for the fans" or whatever. No club could carry on in that situation as it's a recipe for disaster. Sooner or later they'd suspect he'd throw a tantrum and be off anyway.

As for the shopping analogy, I disagree with your point. If someone's handing you £200 per week, you'd go to Waitrose or M&S and not have to worry. If that person then needs to tighten the purse strings, and only gives you £50 a wek in future, you go to Lidl.

You haven't been "shafted" - there was money available then, and it's not now. If you'd kept a little of that £200/wk back you might have a bit more to play with now.

We don't know if Di Canio was "lied" to, i.e. he was told there was money but there wasn't really. It's equally possible that there was money available but the old board needed to cut back - perhaps they've lost money in outside investments over the last couple of years and simply could not continue to fund the Town as they were. Maybe they decided that the policy of chucking a fortune on players' wages and agents' fees (or is it just a single agent?) was unsustainable on the gates we're getting?

Andy Evo wrote:
"PS stop going on about money, and stupid analagies of over spending, or to put it another way, if you go shopping with £200 for the yearly total, but the boss says half way through the year, your not having no money, your budget its taken away, you haven't been bad money managers, you've been shafted....simples".

.......STFC Man&Boy he didn't have his money taken away. The money put by for January ended up being used I believe for the fees for Henville and Collins, players that he wanted, thats not the Boards fault surely?

If you factor in the money that has been wasted on pay offs and wages for the likes of Magera, Lanzano, Commazi, Atiku, Rooney, Cox, Risser to name just a few perhaps there would still be money left in the pot.

I would love to see Town up in the Championship but lets be realistic, if we have now hit the bottom of our piggy bank and struggling to afford what we have, unless this new consortium are unbelievably rich how on earth will we afford Championship football as there are some serious big hitters in there?!

Hi,

I think I've read somewhere that PDC, had money put by for January loans, after we came out of our transfer embargo, if that was the case, the money has been taken away...

For all that Mr black has done, I think he could of been very vindictive in his final days, causing us to lose one our best players, stolen from us, and maybe PDC...although I think he will stay...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

who am i wrote:

Davidsyrett wrote: No excuses for not taking Rooney & Cox if fit except to make a point.

Or just maybe it might be because they havent trained with us for months and we all know how much training pdc takes into account before he picks a player. not only that i dont think pdc would risk his reputation just to make a point......

....the squad are really together of late maybe he's worried about having some negativity around!? .. Rooney the pokey fans warned us that he needs to deliver more as his ego is bigger than his talent at the moment, Cox did well in patches last season but had an awful lot of MiA games last season. ---- I'd rather take 15 and commit the squad to getting the result....still think we have a few mind games going on here.

Not sure if he had a lot of MIA games, he didn't play in many full stop.

"I think I've read somewhere that PDC, had money put by for January loans, after we came out of our transfer embargo, if that was the case, the money has been taken away..."

The money was put by for January but they ended up having to use it for Henville and Collins (Di Canio's purchases that went to tribunal)