MATCHDAY LIVE: Swindon Town v Hartlepool United (From Swindon Advertiser)

tony69er wrote:
My first post on here. Sat in the Merlin having a few beers before what I hope will be the next chapter in following Swindon.

SouthcoastRed wrote:
Stand up for di canio! Was awesome

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
BBC have Rooney down as scorer!

greenml wrote:
That will get the fans back... a 1-1 draw against the bottom club. Obviously the team fed of the adversity...oops. Maybe not!

Blazing Riff wrote:
Sorry but that was a disappointing pile of poo.

stfc2012 wrote:
Classy Town End throwing things at keeper. Degenerates.

robstfc wrote:
Why did Paolo wave today.... He never does that...! He is playing with the fans feelings.... He needs to make a decision quickly.... Either he wants to stay or he doesn't...... I can't take much more of this waiting to know....

PLEASE MAKE A DECISION...!

Stratton Red wrote:
3 great saves from their keeper at the start of the first half was the turning point. * 2 points lost but at least our unbeaten run continues. Fingers crossed the deal is done and Pack et al are here soon... * Wasn't sure about Paolo's wave at the end...

billbst wrote:
Credit the Pools they tried to play football throughout. We definitely missed great opportunities but we didn't get to grips with their midfield. Our goal was real quality. Monkhouse?! Him and Revell drive me nuts. Most disappointing for me was that we were too slow in making the space for passes to be made out of defence so we ended up hitting hopeful long balls. Thommo and Si are fighting it out for the title of Mr Consistency. Ward not far off.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
.
5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
====.
.
Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
.
What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
.
The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
===
...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
.
Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
.
..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
======.
One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
-----.
.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
======
....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
.
A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
----
Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
----
Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

Oi Den! wrote:
SAP, I don't know whether your concerns are well founded or not. All I can say is I share them. And I also heard some things today that don't paint a very rosy picture. We can but hope it's all wrong.

eastmidsred wrote:
It's not the waving at the end that bothers me. We know with Paolo that it's most likely to reflect his emotions at that moment. I have been one of his greatest supporters, however, his bull**** is becoming extremely tiresome now. All this stuff about 'biggest regrets in the history of the club....... ' etc. Well in 50+ years I've seen a few!

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
.
5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
====.
.
Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
.
What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
.
The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
===
...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
.
Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
.
..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
======.
One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
-----.
.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
======
....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
.
A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
----
Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
----
Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

Davidsyrett wrote:

eastmidsred wrote:
It's not the waving at the end that bothers me. We know with Paolo that it's most likely to reflect his emotions at that moment. I have been one of his greatest supporters, however, his bull**** is becoming extremely tiresome now. All this stuff about 'biggest regrets in the history of the club....... ' etc. Well in 50+ years I've seen a few!

Agree, time for PdC to put up or shut up, after all the emotion of a large crowd and singing his name, all he could say afterwards is that he stood by the statement he released before the crawley game, I think that was rubbing our noses in it. No one is bigger than the club.

I think PdC, having met the board & heard what the fans feel now needs to make a decision, and if he does walk away then for me he will not be the legend many are making him out to be.

Don't get me wrong I want him to stay, but if he is to go just tell us and put us out of our misery.

As for the takeover, for goodness sake lets wait and see what the new board have to offer before everyone starts getting depressed, after all they have saved our club from administration.

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
.
5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
====.
.
Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
.
What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
.
The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
===
...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
.
Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
.
..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
======.
One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
-----.
.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
======
....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
.
A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
----
Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
----
Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

waffle

jayden wrote:
Just goes to show i dont think anyone knows whats going on as i have come away up beat having heard something compleatly different.As you know i have named one of the 5 and have said another and i have said it could be bull but today the name on the lips around me is James Dyson who is a swindon fan but like i said who realy knows and it is half the fun.One down side today i think pdc will go at the end of the season he looks like a old man at the moment and looks like he needs a rest.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

jayden wrote:
Just goes to show i dont think anyone knows whats going on as i have come away up beat having heard something compleatly different.As you know i have named one of the 5 and have said another and i have said it could be bull but today the name on the lips around me is James Dyson who is a swindon fan but like i said who realy knows and it is half the fun.One down side today i think pdc will go at the end of the season he looks like a old man at the moment and looks like he needs a rest.

Thanks Jayden. Whether what you heard is right or not, at least you have given us what you know.

It is up to the individual to decide if they believe it or not.

Dearly hope its true though.

RamsburyRed wrote:
All comes under the 'what if' department .. he didn't so it's irrelevant, just as penalties given/not given etc.
*
Personally, I don't like seeing any players sent off except for serious foul play and don't think he deserved to go. The ref could have sorted it out by being tougher with him in the first place.

RamsburyRed wrote:
All comes under the 'what if' department .. he didn't so it's irrelevant, just as penalties given/not given etc.
*
Personally, I don't like seeing any players sent off except for serious foul play and don't think he deserved to go. The ref could have sorted it out by being tougher with him in the first place.

Oi Den! wrote:

RamsburyRed wrote:
All comes under the 'what if' department .. he didn't so it's irrelevant, just as penalties given/not given etc.
*
Personally, I don't like seeing any players sent off except for serious foul play and don't think he deserved to go. The ref could have sorted it out by being tougher with him in the first place.

Spot on. "If this, if that, should've done this, should've done that..."
Bottom line is the result was a draw, and I thought it was a fair result, despite our early dominance. Also agree with you about this bloodthirsty desire for red cards. I don't suppose many Town fans would have thought a sending off was in order if Wes had been the goalkeeper in question.

jayden wrote:

RamsburyRed wrote:
All comes under the 'what if' department .. he didn't so it's irrelevant, just as penalties given/not given etc.
*
Personally, I don't like seeing any players sent off except for serious foul play and don't think he deserved to go. The ref could have sorted it out by being tougher with him in the first place.

Quite agree i thought the ref had a good game many would have sent Raffa off and it was not a back pass as the ball hit the player and he could not do anything about it.Also the 4 offical was good the amount ot time pdc was on the pitch and he just let him get on with it .What a waste of time patching up Williams as pdc had allready told Miles story he was on in place of williams before he got injured .

Davidsyrett wrote:

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
.
5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
====.
.
Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
.
What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
.
The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
===
...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
.
Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
.
..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
======.
One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
-----.
.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
======
....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
.
A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
----
Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
----
Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

waffle

HaHa, a man of few words Ollie!!

LydiardRED67 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
.
5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
====.
.
Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
.
What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
.
The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
===
...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
.
Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
.
..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
======.
One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
-----.
.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
======
....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
.
A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
----
Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
----
Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

I don't wish to be rude, and I don't doubt your conversations, but please don't post like this.

If you have names, name them and if you do not wish then please keep your thoughts private.

If Guv had posted this, he would have beeb villified by all.

The Jockster wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
.
5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
====.
.
Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
.
What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
.
The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
===
...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
.
Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
.
..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
======.
One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
-----.
.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
======
....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
.
A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
----
Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
----
Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

I don't wish to be rude, and I don't doubt your conversations, but please don't post like this.

If you have names, name them and if you do not wish then please keep your thoughts private.

If Guv had posted this, he would have beeb villified by all.

SAP despite your veiled comment which is clearly aimed at me -please don't pretend it isn't - I am in total agreement with your concerns.

However whilst you have in your eternal optimistic style embraced the proposed takeover from the moment it was announced -and I don't criticise you for that - I have always erred on the cautious side i.e.negative/pessimi

stic in your book presumably.

Sadly for both of us as Town fans it would appear that some of my concerns -which in my defence have been shared by many others - are now being considered by yourself.

Really I take no pleasure, and I'm not here to gloat, in saying that I had doubts about Jed and Co. and the fact that over the last few games I mentioned that Paolo hasn't raised the scarf to the skies since the manure collided with the air con re Black wanting out & MR wanting out. I too have heard similar rumblings from "connected" persons in the local media as you have today from your contacts. As creatures of habit its natural for the neutral "in the dark" Town fans to want to know where this type of info comes from e.g. Lydiard's request to you today and Guv and others flak when asked to name names and yes I've asked you before to name sources as others have of me. However none of us can because we dont want to betray a confidence.

To return to the nuts and bolts - I'd agree with you and others - no we didn't play well and clearly we miss MR's input and we look strangely disjointed at the moment and Willo simply must do better with some of the gilt edge chances he gets - yes it looked like a goodbye wave this time for sure & Paolo's comments afterwards didn't exactly convince anyone otherwise eh?

We all want Pdc to stay because we've seen the proof of the pudding but even more so today I felt he was just going through the motions despite his apparent animation on the touchline.

Apologies to all for the long rant -just felt I had to say my bit. Cheers!

The Jockster wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy.
.
....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!!
.
1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life.
.
2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't.
.
3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match.
.
4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer.
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5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question.
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Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence.
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What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part.
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The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar.
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...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!!
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Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe....
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..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed.
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One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!!
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.....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!!
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....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts.
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A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope.
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Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us.
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Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

I don't wish to be rude, and I don't doubt your conversations, but please don't post like this.

If you have names, name them and if you do not wish then please keep your thoughts private.

If Guv had posted this, he would have beeb villified by all.

SAP despite your veiled comment which is clearly aimed at me -please don't pretend it isn't - I am in total agreement with your concerns.

However whilst you have in your eternal optimistic style embraced the proposed takeover from the moment it was announced -and I don't criticise you for that - I have always erred on the cautious side i.e.negative/pessimi

stic in your book presumably.

Sadly for both of us as Town fans it would appear that some of my concerns -which in my defence have been shared by many others - are now being considered by yourself.

Really I take no pleasure, and I'm not here to gloat, in saying that I had doubts about Jed and Co. and the fact that over the last few games I mentioned that Paolo hasn't raised the scarf to the skies since the manure collided with the air con re Black wanting out & MR wanting out. I too have heard similar rumblings from "connected" persons in the local media as you have today from your contacts. As creatures of habit its natural for the neutral "in the dark" Town fans to want to know where this type of info comes from e.g. Lydiard's request to you today and Guv and others flak when asked to name names and yes I've asked you before to name sources as others have of me. However none of us can because we dont want to betray a confidence.

To return to the nuts and bolts - I'd agree with you and others - no we didn't play well and clearly we miss MR's input and we look strangely disjointed at the moment and Willo simply must do better with some of the gilt edge chances he gets - yes it looked like a goodbye wave this time for sure & Paolo's comments afterwards didn't exactly convince anyone otherwise eh?

We all want Pdc to stay because we've seen the proof of the pudding but even more so today I felt he was just going through the motions despite his apparent animation on the touchline.

Apologies to all for the long rant -just felt I had to say my bit. Cheers!

davel4848 wrote:
I see that we have 'I know more than you do', posters on here again today. Why on earth you don't just wait for things to happen, instead of insisting in stirring things up is beyond me. You must lead very sad lives.

joey butler wrote:
I very much regret to admit it, but PDC has emotionally and personally given up on Swindon Town.

His interview on SKY Sports at 9.40pm on February 4th says exactly that. He is a very, very genuine man without doubt, but broken in spirit by the lack of support from the Board, not just recently, but since last September.

For Heavens Sake, with PDC in his usual form, we would and should of won today and gone top of the table.

LydiardRED67 wrote:
So we know for certain he is going then................

?

RamsburyRed wrote:
Disappointing performance from us, but most of all shows how hard it will be if we can't bring more players in. We have lost Ritchie, Martin and Hollands from a winning team and you can't easily plug those gaps.
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Look at the bench, how many options to change it? Collins, certainly, but other than that, I'm not sure Navarro is fully fit and you can't expect youngsters to come on and change the game.
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I think Paolo's comments about regret refer to losing players and not having any replacements.
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But we shouldn't be too downbeat - everyone's going to drop points (Donny lost at home) and we're still right in the mix.
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Get the deal done, get the new owners in, and let's reinforce the squad.
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btw, comments about a good finisher are spot on - forget their keeper's good saves, the ball should have been placed beyond his reach.

Calcio Robin wrote:
First time post!!!!!!!..... Swindon Town through and through.....just had moved to the town in 1960, and as a spotty kid remember watching Ernie hunt , Mike Summerbee, Jack Smith, Bobby Woodruff etc training or having a kick about on the County Ground carpark, wearing old fashoned black and white canvas baseball boots, how times have changed. So my love for STFC goes back a long way...... and my points are we know have faceless suited and booted football League personel who cannot make decisions within a couple of days especially when it concerns our football club, as for footballers and management loyalty it went out of the window a long time ago, its me me me and the fans have to feed off the scraps, but our loyalty will always remain!!!!. I have enjoyed every moment of Paolo's management and the passion he demonstrates be it at pitchside, training ground, or in front of the media, but why oh why all this drama, will I stay or will I go?, doesn't he realise that the only people who hurt from this diva like stance are the true fans,if Andrew Black has made his decision so should Paolo, and I want him to STAY please please, no one else compares.This is from an Italian lad who came to Swindon in the early sixties, and fell in love with STFC and football, and I have experienced diva types, respect and passion in the Italian way of life. So come on Paolo do not tug at your supporters heart strings and tell us that your heart is with us and you are staying. Awaiting your decision!!!!.

Wilesy wrote:
Looked like a wave goodbye to me, and I'm now bracing myself for the news that he will leave. I can't see any other scenario that would warrant that action, after all the fans support during the game.

Thought we dominated the game, and should have buried some of the great chances created, and also the lack of options on the bench was concerning. Willo is certainly a nuisance for the defence and looks a world beater but more often than not the final shot or decision is very poor.

A couple of baffling decisions from the ref today - firstly the blatant backpass at the end of the first half, secondly the keeper farce at the end of the second half. Keeper rightly booked for time wasting, but should have walked for pushing the ref twice, and also could have got another yellow for taking the mick by moving the ball 10 yards forward. Also looked like he took the kick then picked the ball up again so should have been penalised for that too.

Oi Den! wrote:

RamsburyRed wrote:
All comes under the 'what if' department .. he didn't so it's irrelevant, just as penalties given/not given etc.
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Personally, I don't like seeing any players sent off except for serious foul play and don't think he deserved to go. The ref could have sorted it out by being tougher with him in the first place.

Spot on. "If this, if that, should've done this, should've done that..."
Bottom line is the result was a draw, and I thought it was a fair result, despite our early dominance. Also agree with you about this bloodthirsty desire for red cards. I don't suppose many Town fans would have thought a sending off was in order if Wes had been the goalkeeper in question.

Calcio Robin wrote:
First time post!!!!!!!..... Swindon Town through and through.....just had moved to the town in 1960, and as a spotty kid remember watching Ernie hunt , Mike Summerbee, Jack Smith, Bobby Woodruff etc training or having a kick about on the County Ground carpark, wearing old fashoned black and white canvas baseball boots, how times have changed. So my love for STFC goes back a long way...... and my points are we know have faceless suited and booted football League personel who cannot make decisions within a couple of days especially when it concerns our football club, as for footballers and management loyalty it went out of the window a long time ago, its me me me and the fans have to feed off the scraps, but our loyalty will always remain!!!!. I have enjoyed every moment of Paolo's management and the passion he demonstrates be it at pitchside, training ground, or in front of the media, but why oh why all this drama, will I stay or will I go?, doesn't he realise that the only people who hurt from this diva like stance are the true fans,if Andrew Black has made his decision so should Paolo, and I want him to STAY please please, no one else compares.This is from an Italian lad who came to Swindon in the early sixties, and fell in love with STFC and football, and I have experienced diva types, respect and passion in the Italian way of life. So come on Paolo do not tug at your supporters heart strings and tell us that your heart is with us and you are staying. Awaiting your decision!!!!.

RobinsTalk wrote:
I, for obvious reasons, cannot name names but, the people I spoke to today, who's opinions I trust and respect, were very positive when I asked them the question that everyone wants to know right now.

I was assured that despite the doom and gloom of the past week or so that there is absolutely no way the CG burgers contained any horse!!

Sorry folks, couldn't resist it. ;-)

RamsburyRed wrote:
Re PDC on the pitch at the end; I'm not sure anything should be read into that. I think he was just disappointed as we'd missed a great opportunity - it hardly seemed right to give the triumphal scarf aloft salute in the circumstances.

jayden wrote:

davel4848 wrote: I see that we have 'I know more than you do', posters on here again today. Why on earth you don't just wait for things to happen, instead of insisting in stirring things up is beyond me. You must lead very sad lives.

What would you like to talk about ? Anything about the game ? Or would you just like to have a responce,well you have 1 would you like to + to it or just belittle people?

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that

s my guess

Louis :(((((

Oi Den! wrote:
Pewsham, we're not that far apart. In fact I thought we could have put the game to bed by half time. But as you say, we couldn't finish, and I do think they were well worth a point. My mate and I were saying before they scored that they were playing a sensible game. They didn't chase an equaliser because they knew they'd have been left open. Instead they played it tight, they played it out patiently from the back and hoped they could catch us out. In the end, it wasn't a goal on the break; it came at the end of a few minutes of sustained pressure from them and desperate defending from us. Their keeper's great saves and our players' inability to finish may have been frustrating but they are all part of the game. Fair result in my book.
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I think we're missing Hollands, or the Hollands-type that we'd been missing for much of the season before he arrived.

Calcio Robin wrote:
Definatley first time post, and 50 years of supporting Stfc, I was trying to be positive and full of support, and stating how and a lot of friends feel about the present situation at the club. Half a century of support, I can assure you I have ideas and opinions. Why should I hide as an undercover poster.

Oi Den! wrote:
Pewsham, we're not that far apart. In fact I thought we could have put the game to bed by half time. But as you say, we couldn't finish, and I do think they were well worth a point. My mate and I were saying before they scored that they were playing a sensible game. They didn't chase an equaliser because they knew they'd have been left open. Instead they played it tight, they played it out patiently from the back and hoped they could catch us out. In the end, it wasn't a goal on the break; it came at the end of a few minutes of sustained pressure from them and desperate defending from us. Their keeper's great saves and our players' inability to finish may have been frustrating but they are all part of the game. Fair result in my book.
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I think we're missing Hollands, or the Hollands-type that we'd been missing for much of the season before he arrived.

smirg kcab wrote:
Sorry London red you can't defend that absolute useless twaat Williams the worst pile of shiit we have had for years.
Saying thE best bottom club h
I have seen at the c/g.

The Jockster wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Sorry London red you can't defend that absolute useless twaat Williams the worst pile of shiit we have had for years.
Saying thE best bottom club h
I have seen at the c/g.

Grim -breaking news - Willo has signed for Findus -having had horse meat ruled out for their burgers the're now trying a donkey out - rumour mill hype is they're considering a double swoop to include Collins lol:)

LydiardRED67 wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that


s my guess

Louis :(((((

Lets hope not but sounds plausible.

Another thought though, does anyone remember the rumour of the Italian consortium that had failed to take over at Birmingham and wanted PDC as Manager?

Well, I read in the press that QPRs ex Italian owners are in talks at Brum.

Just my opinion on a historic rumour......

Cookie43 wrote:
Staying!! Going!!
To be honest I am sick of it now
I have followed Swindon for nearly 30 years since I was old enough to get the bud to the county ground.
Yes I would like him to stay but all this **** is getting on my nerves now either tell us your staying or go and let us get on with the season to whatever its out come. But one thing is for sure I will be at tranmere and the game after that and the season after that
Managers players board members come and go but the one constant thing that stays is us. We have done enough as fans and he owes it to us now to either get on with it or just go!!
Cause I have had enough of all this messing about. All I care about is STFC the club I love the club I support my club and my fellows fans club
Staying going just make your bloody mind up and let's get on with making this season a success

joey butler wrote:

Calcio Robin wrote:
Definatley first time post, and 50 years of supporting Stfc, I was trying to be positive and full of support, and stating how and a lot of friends feel about the present situation at the club. Half a century of support, I can assure you I have ideas and opinions. Why should I hide as an undercover poster.

So why has it taken you 50 years to construct your first post please?

Does that mean you will be 100 years old when your next post comes??

towiered wrote:
So as he will have known in advance, at 3.10pm nearly 10,000 people stand & sing their support & backing for Our manager. Whilst he was engrossed in the game, for a emotional person such as we know that he is, he made no sign whatsover to acknowledge our gesture.
Regardless of the result (I'm personally fed up of praising opposition keepers), we all look for a reassuring gesture from our adored manager, either he is a master at psychology or an idiot & I don't believe the second (for a second). I watched him intensely like most at the end, I've no training in the real matters of the mind but 'the wave' could not be read to me than anything other than a negative.
As for todays attendance, it ain't rocket science, keep it affordable for most & they will come in numbers (even for me who spent £45 on petrol from Essex)
If we manage to hold it together though we are still going up definatly

burley01rs wrote:
We did not deal effectively with the ball in the air.

stfc2012 wrote:

joey butler wrote:

Calcio Robin wrote:
Definatley first time post, and 50 years of supporting Stfc, I was trying to be positive and full of support, and stating how and a lot of friends feel about the present situation at the club. Half a century of support, I can assure you I have ideas and opinions. Why should I hide as an undercover poster.

So why has it taken you 50 years to construct your first post please?

Does that mean you will be 100 years old when your next post comes??

I don't think the Internet was about for the first 30 odd. Who cares? Why does every new poster have to justify themselves. Paranoid bunch on here think its annoys boys club.

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

davel4848 wrote: I see that we have 'I know more than you do', posters on here again today. Why on earth you don't just wait for things to happen, instead of insisting in stirring things up is beyond me. You must lead very sad lives.

What would you like to talk about ? Anything about the game ? Or would you just like to have a responce,well you have 1 would you like to + to it or just belittle people?

BELITTLE...
HA hA !!!! Its much more fun ?

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that

s my guess

Louis :(((((

Cookie43 wrote:
Staying!! Going!!
To be honest I am sick of it now
I have followed Swindon for nearly 30 years since I was old enough to get the bud to the county ground.
Yes I would like him to stay but all this **** is getting on my nerves now either tell us your staying or go and let us get on with the season to whatever its out come. But one thing is for sure I will be at tranmere and the game after that and the season after that
Managers players board members come and go but the one constant thing that stays is us. We have done enough as fans and he owes it to us now to either get on with it or just go!!
Cause I have had enough of all this messing about. All I care about is STFC the club I love the club I support my club and my fellows fans club
Staying going just make your bloody mind up and let's get on with making this season a success

Wilesy wrote:
Watkins programme notes today made a good read.

The thing that stands out to me is that despite the generosity of Mr Black in writing off debt, he effectively gave the club about 3 weeks to find and install new owners and appointed Begbies Traynor to restructure the club, which led to the fire sale of Ritchie.

http://www.begbies-t

raynorgroup.com/begb

ies-traynor/our-serv

ices/company-adminis

tration.aspx

I remember some interview that said despite his desire to leave he wouldn't leave us in the brown stuff, well stuff doesn't get much browner than an annuncement of '3 weeks til administration'.

Still very interested to know why he was so desperate to get out. Was it health, financial or something else behind the scenes? Must be something ultra serious for the 3 week departure, not long after rescuing the club from embargo.

Looks like behind the scenes we have done well to get the deal done (touch wood) in record quick time, so while time will tell if it is a good deal, it was probably the only viable alternative short time frame.

Oi Den! wrote:
Pewsham, we're not that far apart. In fact I thought we could have put the game to bed by half time. But as you say, we couldn't finish, and I do think they were well worth a point. My mate and I were saying before they scored that they were playing a sensible game. They didn't chase an equaliser because they knew they'd have been left open. Instead they played it tight, they played it out patiently from the back and hoped they could catch us out. In the end, it wasn't a goal on the break; it came at the end of a few minutes of sustained pressure from them and desperate defending from us. Their keeper's great saves and our players' inability to finish may have been frustrating but they are all part of the game. Fair result in my book.
.
I think we're missing Hollands, or the Hollands-type that we'd been missing for much of the season before he arrived.

Calcio Robin wrote:
First time post!!!!!!!..... Swindon Town through and through.....just had moved to the town in 1960, and as a spotty kid remember watching Ernie hunt , Mike Summerbee, Jack Smith, Bobby Woodruff etc training or having a kick about on the County Ground carpark, wearing old fashoned black and white canvas baseball boots, how times have changed. So my love for STFC goes back a long way...... and my points are we know have faceless suited and booted football League personel who cannot make decisions within a couple of days especially when it concerns our football club, as for footballers and management loyalty it went out of the window a long time ago, its me me me and the fans have to feed off the scraps, but our loyalty will always remain!!!!. I have enjoyed every moment of Paolo's management and the passion he demonstrates be it at pitchside, training ground, or in front of the media, but why oh why all this drama, will I stay or will I go?, doesn't he realise that the only people who hurt from this diva like stance are the true fans,if Andrew Black has made his decision so should Paolo, and I want him to STAY please please, no one else compares.This is from an Italian lad who came to Swindon in the early sixties, and fell in love with STFC and football, and I have experienced diva types, respect and passion in the Italian way of life. So come on Paolo do not tug at your supporters heart strings and tell us that your heart is with us and you are staying. Awaiting your decision!!!!.

Wilesy wrote:
Watkins programme notes today made a good read.

The thing that stands out to me is that despite the generosity of Mr Black in writing off debt, he effectively gave the club about 3 weeks to find and install new owners and appointed Begbies Traynor to restructure the club, which led to the fire sale of Ritchie.

http://www.begbies-t

raynorgroup.com/begb

ies-traynor/our-serv

ices/company-adminis

tration.aspx

I remember some interview that said despite his desire to leave he wouldn't leave us in the brown stuff, well stuff doesn't get much browner than an annuncement of '3 weeks til administration'.

Still very interested to know why he was so desperate to get out. Was it health, financial or something else behind the scenes? Must be something ultra serious for the 3 week departure, not long after rescuing the club from embargo.

Looks like behind the scenes we have done well to get the deal done (touch wood) in record quick time, so while time will tell if it is a good deal, it was probably the only viable alternative short time frame.

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

old town robin wrote:
Jayden and Oi Den,

sorry guys have to disagree with you on the back pass just before half time, It should have been at least a yellow for their goalie if not a red and a indirect free kick from 6 yards. It was the the most blatent pick up from a back pass I have ever seen.

Thought the ref was absolute rubbish, but would agree De Vita was lucky not to get a red for his two footed tackle, he had a poor game and would have surely been replaced if we had more to offer on the bench.

joey butler wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

joey butler wrote:

Calcio Robin wrote:
Definatley first time post, and 50 years of supporting Stfc, I was trying to be positive and full of support, and stating how and a lot of friends feel about the present situation at the club. Half a century of support, I can assure you I have ideas and opinions. Why should I hide as an undercover poster.

So why has it taken you 50 years to construct your first post please?

Does that mean you will be 100 years old when your next post comes??

I don't think the Internet was about for the first 30 odd. Who cares? Why does every new poster have to justify themselves. Paranoid bunch on here think its annoys boys club.

Spoken very well, from Mr Paranoid himself!

If you really think Calcio is a new poster, you are extremely sad.

joey butler wrote:
stfc 2012.

Has it perhaps crossed your mind that some posters on here are simply fed up with you talking down to them?

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

old town robin wrote:
Jayden and Oi Den,

sorry guys have to disagree with you on the back pass just before half time, It should have been at least a yellow for their goalie if not a red and a indirect free kick from 6 yards. It was the the most blatent pick up from a back pass I have ever seen.

Thought the ref was absolute rubbish, but would agree De Vita was lucky not to get a red for his two footed tackle, he had a poor game and would have surely been replaced if we had more to offer on the bench.

louiscassius wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

Mate,

Paolo, is gone....

Simples........

5 weeks ago, we would have walked that game.....

The players need him gone, its putting everyone off.....

I think personally, he'll go to Huddersfield....

But thats just my guess.....they need an impact manager right now, as they are only 3 points off the relegation and if anything, he'll give them that impact....

old town robin wrote:
Jayden and Oi Den,

sorry guys have to disagree with you on the back pass just before half time, It should have been at least a yellow for their goalie if not a red and a indirect free kick from 6 yards. It was the the most blatent pick up from a back pass I have ever seen.

Thought the ref was absolute rubbish, but would agree De Vita was lucky not to get a red for his two footed tackle, he had a poor game and would have surely been replaced if we had more to offer on the bench.

mancrobin wrote:
Can't understand all the angst on here.

We drew today when it appears we should have won. It happens. When was the last time we lost? We have the best goal difference in the league and a whisker from being top.

We have a squad that is more than capable of gaining promotion. It is only likely to be strengthened by additions in the near future.

We have a mercurial manager who quite frankly is going nowhere unless he can prove to bigger clubs than us that he is able to manage within the constraints of what a board deal to him.

We have a takeover that will see a new mix on the board by next week of which no one seems to know very much at all.

So, folks, let's just wait and see. And maybe as Sam indicated earlier in the day, we may have a team heading for the Championship, with or without Paolo.

Personally, I'm less bothered about who is manager, I'm more bothered about what the strategy of the new board is. No more charlatans please. Just honest endeavour.

And, come what may, in one, two, three, twenty years time (god willing), I'll be holding my red and white scarf aloft.

Swindon till I die.

Onwards and upwards.

umpcah wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

Mate,

Paolo, is gone....

Simples........

5 weeks ago, we would have walked that game.....

The players need him gone, its putting everyone off.....

I think personally, he'll go to Huddersfield....

But thats just my guess.....they need an impact manager right now, as they are only 3 points off the relegation and if anything, he'll give them that impact....

5 weeks ago, we would have walked that game.....
I agree on that ! Paolo certainly didn`t fire the boys up like he has done in the past. Hudds for Paolo ? Cant agree on that one though !

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

As his name gets mentioned a lot I thought I'd write a piece on PB.

Regarding Bodin. I think most fans should keep an open mind on him as a consideration for our manager whether care-taker or otherwise. It's easy to dismiss him as it is easy to just put him in the hot seat but we must look at him in detail.

For starters Bodin was an excellent pro playing at international level and has Premier League experience. We all know that this in itself doesn't alone make a good manager but it does provide valuable experience in understanding the game at different levels.

Bodin has a huge amount of coaching experience. Although much if this is at U18 level nonetheless he has been playing the game from the dugout for a good amount of time. When fans suddenly hear that a popular prem player is retiring or wants to coach they are always keen to get them at their lower league club (I.e Speed) so I can't understand why PB isn't in this category or even higher up due to his time on the coaching game already. In fact I can understand - he is not flamboyant and is quietly spoken with considered responses - the sort of calm character that can be good for a team. Mark my words though, those who have stood near him coaching know he knows when to get vocal and I'd imagine he has a travel sized hair dryer to bring out when required.

PB also I believe has the clubs interest at heart. The type of character that us open and honest and that the in actually means something to him. He won't give you a monologue each week on how he loves Swindon but I think it's plain to see he is one of those decent football characters.

I understand he has had option in the past to manager or assist at a few League clubs but decided not to take them up. I don't think he's waiting on the Swindon job but obviously I think he'd like to have a first team involvement in a coaching or assistant capacity. I think that's fair enough. When you get names like Paul Buckle or other lower league managers mentioned I'd rather take a punt on a hungry ex town player. Adkins or similar wont be coming as too high profile so we are left with the usual suspects that jump around lower league clubs. PDC was inexperienced and made many mistakes so I don't see what the problem is giving another young manager a chance - be it Bodin or another. A manager on his first appointment seems to bond with the club rather than just another pay cheque for a few years and has fresh ideas and a nice sort of pressure.

In summary, before we appoint a journeyman manager we should consider doing what we did last time: appoint a hungry manager with a point to prove. PDC was a punt and has done us well so let's not settle with has been and do what a lot or forward thinking clubs do and get a youngish manager with new, fresh ideas to push us forward. Whether its Bodin I don't really care but let's not dismiss him without giving him a proper consideration should an opening appear in the first team set up.

louiscassius wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

As his name gets mentioned a lot I thought I'd write a piece on PB.

Regarding Bodin. I think most fans should keep an open mind on him as a consideration for our manager whether care-taker or otherwise. It's easy to dismiss him as it is easy to just put him in the hot seat but we must look at him in detail.

For starters Bodin was an excellent pro playing at international level and has Premier League experience. We all know that this in itself doesn't alone make a good manager but it does provide valuable experience in understanding the game at different levels.

Bodin has a huge amount of coaching experience. Although much if this is at U18 level nonetheless he has been playing the game from the dugout for a good amount of time. When fans suddenly hear that a popular prem player is retiring or wants to coach they are always keen to get them at their lower league club (I.e Speed) so I can't understand why PB isn't in this category or even higher up due to his time on the coaching game already. In fact I can understand - he is not flamboyant and is quietly spoken with considered responses - the sort of calm character that can be good for a team. Mark my words though, those who have stood near him coaching know he knows when to get vocal and I'd imagine he has a travel sized hair dryer to bring out when required.

PB also I believe has the clubs interest at heart. The type of character that us open and honest and that the in actually means something to him. He won't give you a monologue each week on how he loves Swindon but I think it's plain to see he is one of those decent football characters.

I understand he has had option in the past to manager or assist at a few League clubs but decided not to take them up. I don't think he's waiting on the Swindon job but obviously I think he'd like to have a first team involvement in a coaching or assistant capacity. I think that's fair enough. When you get names like Paul Buckle or other lower league managers mentioned I'd rather take a punt on a hungry ex town player. Adkins or similar wont be coming as too high profile so we are left with the usual suspects that jump around lower league clubs. PDC was inexperienced and made many mistakes so I don't see what the problem is giving another young manager a chance - be it Bodin or another. A manager on his first appointment seems to bond with the club rather than just another pay cheque for a few years and has fresh ideas and a nice sort of pressure.

In summary, before we appoint a journeyman manager we should consider doing what we did last time: appoint a hungry manager with a point to prove. PDC was a punt and has done us well so let's not settle with has been and do what a lot or forward thinking clubs do and get a youngish manager with new, fresh ideas to push us forward. Whether its Bodin I don't really care but let's not dismiss him without giving him a proper consideration should an opening appear in the first team set up.

tend to agree with a large portion of your comments.

However, i think the personnel hat Paolo has ad at his disposal ahas been staggring.

Most Legue 1/2 Clubs wouldnever hae nctioned that sort of hire/fire and pay off!!

I wonder how successful he would hav been, had he actually had to live within OUR fincial means??

I think we may have seen a totally different season last year........

louiscassius wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that



s my guess

Louis :(((((

Lets hope not but sounds plausible.

Another thought though, does anyone remember the rumour of the Italian consortium that had failed to take over at Birmingham and wanted PDC as Manager?

Well, I read in the press that QPRs ex Italian owners are in talks at Brum.

Just my opinion on a historic rumour......

Yeah your right.

Just read the article on BBC Sport, thats another very plausable move for Paolo.

What ever happens......

He's off.........10 days now till next game...

I can see them asking him, to just stay a few more days, until the deal for the Club is done, he's agreed...

But, thats why you see him with head down and very lackluster appearance and bearing........

Can hardly be 'Come on you reds'

Holding scarf aloft,

then next day say 'Right, i'm off!'

See ya Paolo, would have been nice if you could have been honest with us from the start but hey, no grudges......thanks for your work and giving me some good times to remember.......

Xmas 2012.....5-0, 5-0 then 4-0

BBBooooooom!!!!!

Cheers mate

Louis :-)))))

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

As his name gets mentioned a lot I thought I'd write a piece on PB.

Regarding Bodin. I think most fans should keep an open mind on him as a consideration for our manager whether care-taker or otherwise. It's easy to dismiss him as it is easy to just put him in the hot seat but we must look at him in detail.

For starters Bodin was an excellent pro playing at international level and has Premier League experience. We all know that this in itself doesn't alone make a good manager but it does provide valuable experience in understanding the game at different levels.

Bodin has a huge amount of coaching experience. Although much if this is at U18 level nonetheless he has been playing the game from the dugout for a good amount of time. When fans suddenly hear that a popular prem player is retiring or wants to coach they are always keen to get them at their lower league club (I.e Speed) so I can't understand why PB isn't in this category or even higher up due to his time on the coaching game already. In fact I can understand - he is not flamboyant and is quietly spoken with considered responses - the sort of calm character that can be good for a team. Mark my words though, those who have stood near him coaching know he knows when to get vocal and I'd imagine he has a travel sized hair dryer to bring out when required.

PB also I believe has the clubs interest at heart. The type of character that us open and honest and that the in actually means something to him. He won't give you a monologue each week on how he loves Swindon but I think it's plain to see he is one of those decent football characters.

I understand he has had option in the past to manager or assist at a few League clubs but decided not to take them up. I don't think he's waiting on the Swindon job but obviously I think he'd like to have a first team involvement in a coaching or assistant capacity. I think that's fair enough. When you get names like Paul Buckle or other lower league managers mentioned I'd rather take a punt on a hungry ex town player. Adkins or similar wont be coming as too high profile so we are left with the usual suspects that jump around lower league clubs. PDC was inexperienced and made many mistakes so I don't see what the problem is giving another young manager a chance - be it Bodin or another. A manager on his first appointment seems to bond with the club rather than just another pay cheque for a few years and has fresh ideas and a nice sort of pressure.

In summary, before we appoint a journeyman manager we should consider doing what we did last time: appoint a hungry manager with a point to prove. PDC was a punt and has done us well so let's not settle with has been and do what a lot or forward thinking clubs do and get a youngish manager with new, fresh ideas to push us forward. Whether its Bodin I don't really care but let's not dismiss him without giving him a proper consideration should an opening appear in the first team set up.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

HOOKEY wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

As his name gets mentioned a lot I thought I'd write a piece on PB.

Regarding Bodin. I think most fans should keep an open mind on him as a consideration for our manager whether care-taker or otherwise. It's easy to dismiss him as it is easy to just put him in the hot seat but we must look at him in detail.

For starters Bodin was an excellent pro playing at international level and has Premier League experience. We all know that this in itself doesn't alone make a good manager but it does provide valuable experience in understanding the game at different levels.

Bodin has a huge amount of coaching experience. Although much if this is at U18 level nonetheless he has been playing the game from the dugout for a good amount of time. When fans suddenly hear that a popular prem player is retiring or wants to coach they are always keen to get them at their lower league club (I.e Speed) so I can't understand why PB isn't in this category or even higher up due to his time on the coaching game already. In fact I can understand - he is not flamboyant and is quietly spoken with considered responses - the sort of calm character that can be good for a team. Mark my words though, those who have stood near him coaching know he knows when to get vocal and I'd imagine he has a travel sized hair dryer to bring out when required.

PB also I believe has the clubs interest at heart. The type of character that us open and honest and that the in actually means something to him. He won't give you a monologue each week on how he loves Swindon but I think it's plain to see he is one of those decent football characters.

I understand he has had option in the past to manager or assist at a few League clubs but decided not to take them up. I don't think he's waiting on the Swindon job but obviously I think he'd like to have a first team involvement in a coaching or assistant capacity. I think that's fair enough. When you get names like Paul Buckle or other lower league managers mentioned I'd rather take a punt on a hungry ex town player. Adkins or similar wont be coming as too high profile so we are left with the usual suspects that jump around lower league clubs. PDC was inexperienced and made many mistakes so I don't see what the problem is giving another young manager a chance - be it Bodin or another. A manager on his first appointment seems to bond with the club rather than just another pay cheque for a few years and has fresh ideas and a nice sort of pressure.

In summary, before we appoint a journeyman manager we should consider doing what we did last time: appoint a hungry manager with a point to prove. PDC was a punt and has done us well so let's not settle with has been and do what a lot or forward thinking clubs do and get a youngish manager with new, fresh ideas to push us forward. Whether its Bodin I don't really care but let's not dismiss him without giving him a proper consideration should an opening appear in the first team set up.

are you bodins agent,if he was any good whys he still here running the youth team,wo are not very good

Haydonender wrote:
Frustrated last night but in the cold light of day there are definitely positives to take. We gained ground on the two teams above and kept our unbeaten run going. Decent attendance too to show Paolo our support and new owners what can happen if they keep prices reasonable.

Overall just think we looked tired after the away trips and poor pitches and were unable to control the game. Hopefully the break now will allow players to recover and also us to maybe bring some fresh blood in if the takeover is approved. Could do with Pack, a winger and a natural goalscorer as PDC said

joey butler wrote:

Calcio Robin wrote:
First time post!!!!!!!..... Swindon Town through and through.....just had moved to the town in 1960, and as a spotty kid remember watching Ernie hunt , Mike Summerbee, Jack Smith, Bobby Woodruff etc training or having a kick about on the County Ground carpark, wearing old fashoned black and white canvas baseball boots, how times have changed. So my love for STFC goes back a long way...... and my points are we know have faceless suited and booted football League personel who cannot make decisions within a couple of days especially when it concerns our football club, as for footballers and management loyalty it went out of the window a long time ago, its me me me and the fans have to feed off the scraps, but our loyalty will always remain!!!!. I have enjoyed every moment of Paolo's management and the passion he demonstrates be it at pitchside, training ground, or in front of the media, but why oh why all this drama, will I stay or will I go?, doesn't he realise that the only people who hurt from this diva like stance are the true fans,if Andrew Black has made his decision so should Paolo, and I want him to STAY please please, no one else compares.This is from an Italian lad who came to Swindon in the early sixties, and fell in love with STFC and football, and I have experienced diva types, respect and passion in the Italian way of life. So come on Paolo do not tug at your supporters heart strings and tell us that your heart is with us and you are staying. Awaiting your decision!!!!.

Sorry Calcio,

But 99% of posters who come on here claiming ''first time post'' are existing posters short of ideas.

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that

s my guess

Louis :(((((

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

As his name gets mentioned a lot I thought I'd write a piece on PB.

Regarding Bodin. I think most fans should keep an open mind on him as a consideration for our manager whether care-taker or otherwise. It's easy to dismiss him as it is easy to just put him in the hot seat but we must look at him in detail.

For starters Bodin was an excellent pro playing at international level and has Premier League experience. We all know that this in itself doesn't alone make a good manager but it does provide valuable experience in understanding the game at different levels.

Bodin has a huge amount of coaching experience. Although much if this is at U18 level nonetheless he has been playing the game from the dugout for a good amount of time. When fans suddenly hear that a popular prem player is retiring or wants to coach they are always keen to get them at their lower league club (I.e Speed) so I can't understand why PB isn't in this category or even higher up due to his time on the coaching game already. In fact I can understand - he is not flamboyant and is quietly spoken with considered responses - the sort of calm character that can be good for a team. Mark my words though, those who have stood near him coaching know he knows when to get vocal and I'd imagine he has a travel sized hair dryer to bring out when required.

PB also I believe has the clubs interest at heart. The type of character that us open and honest and that the in actually means something to him. He won't give you a monologue each week on how he loves Swindon but I think it's plain to see he is one of those decent football characters.

I understand he has had option in the past to manager or assist at a few League clubs but decided not to take them up. I don't think he's waiting on the Swindon job but obviously I think he'd like to have a first team involvement in a coaching or assistant capacity. I think that's fair enough. When you get names like Paul Buckle or other lower league managers mentioned I'd rather take a punt on a hungry ex town player. Adkins or similar wont be coming as too high profile so we are left with the usual suspects that jump around lower league clubs. PDC was inexperienced and made many mistakes so I don't see what the problem is giving another young manager a chance - be it Bodin or another. A manager on his first appointment seems to bond with the club rather than just another pay cheque for a few years and has fresh ideas and a nice sort of pressure.

In summary, before we appoint a journeyman manager we should consider doing what we did last time: appoint a hungry manager with a point to prove. PDC was a punt and has done us well so let's not settle with has been and do what a lot or forward thinking clubs do and get a youngish manager with new, fresh ideas to push us forward. Whether its Bodin I don't really care but let's not dismiss him without giving him a proper consideration should an opening appear in the first team set up.

are you bodins agent,if he was any good whys he still here running the youth team,wo are not very good

You clearly know very little about how it all works. So I'll enlighten you. STFC's youth team is actually, for it's budget, pretty successful. It has operated on a shoe string for the last few years. With its academy status there is investment which means more coaches and training hours and greater resources to help with the development of players. There is the word 'development'. Youth football is not about winning leagues so much as it is to get players in the first team or sold for a fee. STFC do well in their league and in the F.A Youth cup and despite getting thumped when up against the likes of Liverpool and Man City it must be brought in to context: these full time Premier League academy set-ups have huge operating costs and buy in (for hundreds of thousands and sometimes more) the best young footballers in Europe and beyond. We cannot compete on the pitch with that and neither can anyone else. So for you to say our u18s 'are not very good' is laughable.

In terms of player development we actually do quite well and in recent weeks have had the likes of 2 Thompsons, Storey, Oakley and Bedwell involved and all come from the U18s. Of course PDC may not play them but that's up to him as he's shown he'd rather buy in and he won't be here for long enough to have a say in youth development despite criticising it publicly. We have also sold a number of young players that have generated good money for the club. The academy is certainly not a failure.

For the person who asked why I mentioned Bodin it was because someone else mentioned him and as the future of our current manager is anything but certain, and PB took control before, it is most certainly relevant.

umpcah wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

umpcah wrote:

CID Red wrote:
This is my first post just wish it could be more positive! My mate who I go with came up with what might be happening with Paolo - until the new ownership is completed we are unable to sign new players so does this also mean that we are unable to sign a new manager so Paolo is doing the decent thing and staying until we are able to replace him? This would make sense of him saying yesterday that his original comment (My position is untenable) still stands.

If Paolo goes in the near future Bodin will almost certainly hold the fort for a while. I myself think Town fans are in for another weekus horribilis. Hope not of course.

bodin ur having a laugh

As his name gets mentioned a lot I thought I'd write a piece on PB.

Regarding Bodin. I think most fans should keep an open mind on him as a consideration for our manager whether care-taker or otherwise. It's easy to dismiss him as it is easy to just put him in the hot seat but we must look at him in detail.

For starters Bodin was an excellent pro playing at international level and has Premier League experience. We all know that this in itself doesn't alone make a good manager but it does provide valuable experience in understanding the game at different levels.

Bodin has a huge amount of coaching experience. Although much if this is at U18 level nonetheless he has been playing the game from the dugout for a good amount of time. When fans suddenly hear that a popular prem player is retiring or wants to coach they are always keen to get them at their lower league club (I.e Speed) so I can't understand why PB isn't in this category or even higher up due to his time on the coaching game already. In fact I can understand - he is not flamboyant and is quietly spoken with considered responses - the sort of calm character that can be good for a team. Mark my words though, those who have stood near him coaching know he knows when to get vocal and I'd imagine he has a travel sized hair dryer to bring out when required.

PB also I believe has the clubs interest at heart. The type of character that us open and honest and that the in actually means something to him. He won't give you a monologue each week on how he loves Swindon but I think it's plain to see he is one of those decent football characters.

I understand he has had option in the past to manager or assist at a few League clubs but decided not to take them up. I don't think he's waiting on the Swindon job but obviously I think he'd like to have a first team involvement in a coaching or assistant capacity. I think that's fair enough. When you get names like Paul Buckle or other lower league managers mentioned I'd rather take a punt on a hungry ex town player. Adkins or similar wont be coming as too high profile so we are left with the usual suspects that jump around lower league clubs. PDC was inexperienced and made many mistakes so I don't see what the problem is giving another young manager a chance - be it Bodin or another. A manager on his first appointment seems to bond with the club rather than just another pay cheque for a few years and has fresh ideas and a nice sort of pressure.

In summary, before we appoint a journeyman manager we should consider doing what we did last time: appoint a hungry manager with a point to prove. PDC was a punt and has done us well so let's not settle with has been and do what a lot or forward thinking clubs do and get a youngish manager with new, fresh ideas to push us forward. Whether its Bodin I don't really care but let's not dismiss him without giving him a proper consideration should an opening appear in the first team set up.

are you bodins agent,if he was any good whys he still here running the youth team,wo are not very good

You clearly know very little about how it all works. So I'll enlighten you. STFC's youth team is actually, for it's budget, pretty successful. It has operated on a shoe string for the last few years. With its academy status there is investment which means more coaches and training hours and greater resources to help with the development of players. There is the word 'development'. Youth football is not about winning leagues so much as it is to get players in the first team or sold for a fee. STFC do well in their league and in the F.A Youth cup and despite getting thumped when up against the likes of Liverpool and Man City it must be brought in to context: these full time Premier League academy set-ups have huge operating costs and buy in (for hundreds of thousands and sometimes more) the best young footballers in Europe and beyond. We cannot compete on the pitch with that and neither can anyone else. So for you to say our u18s 'are not very good' is laughable.

In terms of player development we actually do quite well and in recent weeks have had the likes of 2 Thompsons, Storey, Oakley and Bedwell involved and all come from the U18s. Of course PDC may not play them but that's up to him as he's shown he'd rather buy in and he won't be here for long enough to have a say in youth development despite criticising it publicly. We have also sold a number of young players that have generated good money for the club. The academy is certainly not a failure.

For the person who asked why I mentioned Bodin it was because someone else mentioned him and as the future of our current manager is anything but certain, and PB took control before, it is most certainly relevant.

GOOD POST !

Oi Den! wrote:
PDC is far too canny to give Huddersfield any more than a passing thought at the moment. They could easily be drawn into a relegation battle. He's made it plain that he doesn't want to go anywhere where survival is the best that can be achieved.

red white wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that


s my guess

Louis :(((((

Total nonsense,sorry,why do you even think that,where is your information from?

Oi Den! wrote:
Instead of looking for reasons (or - even worse - excuses) for not winning, I think we are better off simply accepting that you can't win 'em all. We are probably a couple of players short of being a team that can storm away with the title but I think we are still have a good chance of winning it.
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Nobody is going to convince me that we don't have two very good strikers in Collins and Williams, despite the fact that they both miss the occasional good chance. On Friday night, I heard a commentator say "Phillips does not miss those". But he does of course, and he proved it by missing one a few minutes later. I think PDC needs to remind himself what he told us earlier in the season - this is LEAGUE 1. I'm sure most managers at this level would be delighted to have Collins and Williams up front.

deviant in the tupping pen wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
PDC is far too canny to give Huddersfield any more than a passing thought at the moment. They could easily be drawn into a relegation battle. He's made it plain that he doesn't want to go anywhere where survival is the best that can be achieved.

And as has been mentioned before, with a daughter in University in Southampton, he's unlikely to want to go up North.

Oi Den! wrote:
Instead of looking for reasons (or - even worse - excuses) for not winning, I think we are better off simply accepting that you can't win 'em all. We are probably a couple of players short of being a team that can storm away with the title but I think we are still have a good chance of winning it.
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Nobody is going to convince me that we don't have two very good strikers in Collins and Williams, despite the fact that they both miss the occasional good chance. On Friday night, I heard a commentator say "Phillips does not miss those". But he does of course, and he proved it by missing one a few minutes later. I think PDC needs to remind himself what he told us earlier in the season - this is LEAGUE 1. I'm sure most managers at this level would be delighted to have Collins and Williams up front.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Had their goalkeeper not played a blinder we would be top of the league and all extremely happy. . ....except!....and for those that know me....I'm REALLY sorry folks!! . 1) Not a good performance barring two great moves in the 1st half and 15-20 minutes of total dominance during which they led a charmed life. . 2) I didn't like Paolo's wave...although he is probably extremely torn at present and probably didn't feel like celebrating - I know I didn't. . 3) We regularly sit next to one of the wives of the management team and she had no idea what was going to happen when we spoke at the start of the game - a genuine response not an "I can't say" - equally she was also disturbed by his wave at the end of the match. . 4) Someone who works with the club regularly - and an opinion I respect - was extremely downbeat about the type of person in the consortium....quite a troubling reserved answer. . 5) Another individual who is even closer to the club and whose opinion on all matters STFC I fully trust and also one whose opinion of people is very liberal and open minded also gave a very clear indication that he was distinctly unimpressed with the people in question. ====. . Now I know a certain person will want to come on here spouting "name your source" and all sorts of other usual tripe but I won't divulge names as it all the chats were in confidence. . What I would also say is that I've been 'ALL FOR' this take-over and happy to see someone pick up the reins that have been so hotly dropped by our old Mr Black.....I have to say that I am now DEEPLY troubled by what we may be getting into here and given the nature of the person in question, would not be surprised to see Paolo walk - against ALL Expectations on my part. . The glass half full is sadly now a troubles glass in the middle and worried about whether the wine has turned to vinegar. === ...and to the certain person in question who wants to post a negative random load of tripe at this point - please don't!!...NOT TODAY!! . Contrary to a certain persons opinion I never look to make a name by posting info I only look to pass on enthusiastic beliefs, thought or factual information but more importantly to have a bit of fun and a discussion with like minded STFC fans - I will never apologise for being an optimist on many occasions and to the extreme at times - nor for discounting certain 'particular' tripe.... . ..but sadly I feel like my guts have been partially ripped out from the discussions today and am going to enjoy a bottle of win tonight once the tribe are in bed. ======. One VERY UNHAPPY and sadly almost pessimistic SAPFanSTFC!! -----. .....AND I REALLY AND TRUY HOPE THAT ALL I SPOKE TO TODAY AND MY CURRENT FEELINGS ARE 100% WRONG!!!!.....I truly hope!! ====== ....and apologies to any of the new posters who may have been trying to convey the facts as I certainly thought the worst of some of you - sadly there is a need to be careful for some but as you are being careful this also conveys an element of the 'Male Cow Rectal Function' element....better off getting someone else to post some facts. . A final concern is that the FL's 'Fit and Proper Test'....when you read it, does not do what most of us all believe it says on the tin.....hence we may not be as protected from the future as we'd hope. ---- Sorry folks but apart from all of that the World is cushtie and am looking forward to sleeping well tonight....and will pray that PDC stays.....I just don't think he will be taken in by the new board or their tai.....I can only hope that he will see out this season for us. ---- Again I hope I'm REALLY and 100% wrong!!...time to do the bedtime story routine - Good night all!!

LydiardRED67 wrote:

red white wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that



s my guess

Louis :(((((

Total nonsense,sorry,why do you even think that,where is your information from?

I fairness to Louis, he doesn't claim to "know" anything, these are just his thoughts and opinions.

Haydonender wrote:
Frustrated last night but in the cold light of day there are definitely positives to take. We gained ground on the two teams above and kept our unbeaten run going. Decent attendance too to show Paolo our support and new owners what can happen if they keep prices reasonable.

Overall just think we looked tired after the away trips and poor pitches and were unable to control the game. Hopefully the break now will allow players to recover and also us to maybe bring some fresh blood in if the takeover is approved. Could do with Pack, a winger and a natural goalscorer as PDC said

gibbo1012 wrote:
Gary Roberts truly awful why does he persist with the Gavin Henson type Nancy boy !!

Also matt Ritchie playing left back at Bournemouth. What's that all about !!!

Please can someone tell me how Adam Rooney actually became a pro ?

Yes he gives 100% effort but so could I.

Give storey a proper chance please.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

red white wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
I think he'll go to Huddersfield....

They seem to have been very quiet mentioning naming suspects......

And thats because i think Paolo has asked for time to let the fans down gently.......

I think the announcement was delayed until this game was over today....now we have 10 days until our next game....

Paul Bodin will take over till the New Board get Paul Buckle in......

God.......i hope I'm wrong.....but those of you who saw his wave, i think the writing's been on the wall for over a week now......

Didnt someone say, Paolo was off having interviews this week???

Huddersfield....that



s my guess

Louis :(((((

Total nonsense,sorry,why do you even think that,where is your information from?

I fairness to Louis, he doesn't claim to "know" anything, these are just his thoughts and opinions.

stevobath wrote:
First time posting on here..

I'd like to say ...THANKS FOR MATT RITCHIE ON THE CHEAP!

You all seem very pessimistic?
Hilarious reading the 'We're going top..'

Looks like things are starting to come apart? Better hope PDC desn't walk...UTCIAD :)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

We are PANTS wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
2012 why are we even debating this? Perhaps we should debate it if the manager actually leaves.

Not the best yesterday but it happens. We should have been out of sight but we moved a point closer to the top despite it.

I understand people being worried until the takeover is completed, but the vast majority need to try and take chill pill and relax.

It's Sunday, go to the pub, walk the dog, spend some time with your family, play footy anything just try not to get to worked up about it. There is never any point worrying about something that may not happen. Worry about it if an event happens and save yourself a lot of energy and stress....

Brilliant post!!! One point of the top with 15 games to go and what do we get on here? Doom, Gloom, Doom Gloom!!
I say BOOM!!! to all the negative C##P...Who wants to join my corner??
SMILE!!! ;-)

stevobath wrote:
First time posting on here..

I'd like to say ...THANKS FOR MATT RITCHIE ON THE CHEAP!

You all seem very pessimistic?
Hilarious reading the 'We're going top..'

Looks like things are starting to come apart? Better hope PDC desn't walk...UTCIAD :)

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Roberts will miss Tranmere game due to 5 bookings. Need new players..need new players...need new players or we will drop like a stone

Davidsyrett wrote:

Haydonender wrote:
Frustrated last night but in the cold light of day there are definitely positives to take. We gained ground on the two teams above and kept our unbeaten run going. Decent attendance too to show Paolo our support and new owners what can happen if they keep prices reasonable.

Overall just think we looked tired after the away trips and poor pitches and were unable to control the game. Hopefully the break now will allow players to recover and also us to maybe bring some fresh blood in if the takeover is approved. Could do with Pack, a winger and a natural goalscorer as PDC said

assuming there is 5500 ST holders, we had 4500 pay on the day yesterday @ £15 a ticket, that's the same as 8200 paying £25 which is probably what we would have got without the cheap tickets anyway. So only extra profit would be the extra food/drinks and merchandise sold.

I expected about 10,000 yesterday but if we are really looking to push this club forward we should have been looking for 11/12K yesterday. What will make the stay away fans come back? free tickets??

If we cant sell out the ground for a run of the mill game with tickets at £15 when will we?

stevobath wrote:
First time posting on here..

I'd like to say ...THANKS FOR MATT RITCHIE ON THE CHEAP!

You all seem very pessimistic?
Hilarious reading the 'We're going top..'

Looks like things are starting to come apart? Better hope PDC desn't walk...UTCIAD :)

stevobath wrote:
First time posting on here..

I'd like to say ...THANKS FOR MATT RITCHIE ON THE CHEAP!

You all seem very pessimistic?
Hilarious reading the 'We're going top..'

Looks like things are starting to come apart? Better hope PDC desn't walk...UTCIAD :)

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Had a tweet back from Marlon Pack late last night. He said he honestly does not know what is happening at the moment. Well everyone saying that at the moment.

Personally I think Paolo has agreed to stay only until the new board have brought someone in.

I'm getting fed up with it all including PDC's behaviour so lets hope he either makes a stem endof intent soon of go and allow us to bring in Nigel Atkins ASAP

smirg kcab wrote:
can we swop madden for williams?
onwards and upwards.
they look a big threat now they have replaced a carthorse with a goal scorer

smirg kcab wrote:
can we swop madden for williams?
onwards and upwards.
they look a big threat now they have replaced a carthorse with a goal scorer

LeGod wrote:
steveobath - Your local derby yesterday got less fans than us. So your still a small club with three sides and keep playing Ritchie at left back and he wont be there long. Bournemouth are peaking at the moment but witrh your russian money man and mitchell its a recipe for disaster. i would enjoy it while it lasts as mitchell falls out with most people and remember the russian has only loaned you the money!!!!!!!!!! It will blow up in your face in the next 2-3 seasons. You have a few games coming up where you can potentially drop poinys and the last time you lot got cocky you blew it. All teams are going to drop points and lose games they are expected to win so beware you T**T.

super reds wrote:
Going to add my 2 pennies worth, as many have said before, why can't Paolo make a decision, ok, it may be he's waiting for the new owners to assume control & then walk, but if he intends to walk anyway why doesn't he just go, I would like him to stay as I think he would like to get HIS team into the championship, not to mention he's worked wonders as a new manager in 18 months, but if not let us get someone in who can finish the job off over the next 15 matches & why not Nigel Adkins, he's used to working on a shoestring budget, seems to get the most out of his players, he'd have a **** sight more money than he had at Scunny, got Southampton to the prem without spending massive amounts of cash & was harshly sacked IMO, so my point is Paolo, either stay & work with the new guys or go now & thanks for all you've done in the last 18 months, it truly has been a rollercoaster ride but 1 I've thoroughly enjoyed.

Oi Den! wrote:
Just one more thought on our strikers...
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that every side has 3 strikers to call on, there are 72 of them in our division. As Collins is the fifth highest scorer and Williams is joint tenth, on their goalscoring alone they are doing pretty well. Factor in the other qualities they bring to our game, and I think it all adds up to a couple of good players. It may not be a prolific Austin-Paynter type of partnership but I reckon it's a decent one.
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Sorry LR, you can have your stat hat back now!

super reds wrote:
Going to add my 2 pennies worth, as many have said before, why can't Paolo make a decision, ok, it may be he's waiting for the new owners to assume control & then walk, but if he intends to walk anyway why doesn't he just go, I would like him to stay as I think he would like to get HIS team into the championship, not to mention he's worked wonders as a new manager in 18 months, but if not let us get someone in who can finish the job off over the next 15 matches & why not Nigel Adkins, he's used to working on a shoestring budget, seems to get the most out of his players, he'd have a **** sight more money than he had at Scunny, got Southampton to the prem without spending massive amounts of cash & was harshly sacked IMO, so my point is Paolo, either stay & work with the new guys or go now & thanks for all you've done in the last 18 months, it truly has been a rollercoaster ride but 1 I've thoroughly enjoyed.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Wiz I totally agree with you re the panic amongst the fans but I don't agree about the squad at all.

I'm with Den on Collins and Williams, the abuse from Grim and many others is to my mind ridiculous but we all see it differently. (Den you done that Land Registry search yet)?

I think we now need 2 wingers (post Ritchie leaving) a left back, a striker, 2 centre midfielders and maybe a keeper as I have no idea how good Bedwell is.

6 players ain't that bad in my opinion and I think we'd punch above our weight if we keep the Maestro as our manager.

Games like yesterday happen in football, it's not great but the time to worry is when we don't create chances. I kept saying it pre Christmas when we had some poor results. We were always going to hammer some teams and sure enough hey presto...

Unbeaten in 9, 1 point off top, best goal difference in the league (by miles), chin up everyone.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Wiz I totally agree with you re the panic amongst the fans but I don't agree about the squad at all.

I'm with Den on Collins and Williams, the abuse from Grim and many others is to my mind ridiculous but we all see it differently. (Den you done that Land Registry search yet)?

I think we now need 2 wingers (post Ritchie leaving) a left back, a striker, 2 centre midfielders and maybe a keeper as I have no idea how good Bedwell is.

6 players ain't that bad in my opinion and I think we'd punch above our weight if we keep the Maestro as our manager.

Games like yesterday happen in football, it's not great but the time to worry is when we don't create chances. I kept saying it pre Christmas when we had some poor results. We were always going to hammer some teams and sure enough hey presto...

Unbeaten in 9, 1 point off top, best goal difference in the league (by miles), chin up everyone.

The Jockster wrote:
redwhite- any reason for the 8 time post?

bradley red 1 wrote:
In my opinion di canio has already made his decision and that is he is off! that wave after the game yesterday says it all really,the only confusing thing for me is why is he still here? not sure what point he is making by this am I staying or am I going?saying words like"untenable" mean one thing to me and that is I want out, I expect legal things are keeping him here at the moment and once this new consortium come in he will be gone! he was hired by j wray and a black with a 3 year plan so why would he continue cause I guarantee by the sounds of it the new owners will not flash the cash like the previous board of directors,on another note I hear members of this consortium all have luton town in there hearts with varied different business interests so why the hell are they taking over our club? why would they take over Banbury utd and a few months later us?lots of unanswered questions for me, black wanted shot of this club and has got out by any means possible,why would he care who takes over? I see trouble ahead and it is such a shame considering how well the team have done over the last 18 months,in my opinion I have always thought perhaps di canio feels he is actually bigger,better and superior to stfc and has always said he has ambitions to manage at a higher level so just perhaps that west ham job will come quicker than anyone expected,west ham fans have been singing his name at matches for the past 4 months and want alladyce out the door asap!!! good luck paolo and thankyou for all you have done during your time at stfc,definately one of the best managers we have had here at the county ground.

the wizard wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Wiz I totally agree with you re the panic amongst the fans but I don't agree about the squad at all.

I'm with Den on Collins and Williams, the abuse from Grim and many others is to my mind ridiculous but we all see it differently. (Den you done that Land Registry search yet)?

I think we now need 2 wingers (post Ritchie leaving) a left back, a striker, 2 centre midfielders and maybe a keeper as I have no idea how good Bedwell is.

6 players ain't that bad in my opinion and I think we'd punch above our weight if we keep the Maestro as our manager.

Games like yesterday happen in football, it's not great but the time to worry is when we don't create chances. I kept saying it pre Christmas when we had some poor results. We were always going to hammer some teams and sure enough hey presto...

Unbeaten in 9, 1 point off top, best goal difference in the league (by miles), chin up everyone.

While I totally agree with your sentiment, but the Championship doesn't take prisoners and there it is a lot less forgiving than Leagues One and Two. Yes with the maestro in charge we would do well, but I cannot in truth seeing Macca, Devera, Miller,Navaro, Roberts and Flint with his dodgy distribution. I must admit to leaving Williams out by accident. You only have to refer to my long standing debate with Jockster/Malkym about that. In the Championship you either win and survive or lose and get relegated, it is finite line between success and failure, but it comes at the price of bigger wages etc. We need a new ground and investment , and to his credit Wray saw that long, long ago, as did Fitton before him. It seems that the realisation of that dream came at a cost too much for Black to stomach or match. The man realised his limitations and bailed before he got in over his head, I'll give him credit for that as in the long run he has probably saved us from an even bigger fall. With a new ground, players etc this club will need a massive amount of cash over the next five to ten years, just to sustain Championship football, tens of millions or more.

Oi Den! wrote:
Just one more thought on our strikers...
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that every side has 3 strikers to call on, there are 72 of them in our division. As Collins is the fifth highest scorer and Williams is joint tenth, on their goalscoring alone they are doing pretty well. Factor in the other qualities they bring to our game, and I think it all adds up to a couple of good players. It may not be a prolific Austin-Paynter type of partnership but I reckon it's a decent one.
.
Sorry LR, you can have your stat hat back now!

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

super reds wrote:
Going to add my 2 pennies worth, as many have said before, why can't Paolo make a decision, ok, it may be he's waiting for the new owners to assume control & then walk, but if he intends to walk anyway why doesn't he just go, I would like him to stay as I think he would like to get HIS team into the championship, not to mention he's worked wonders as a new manager in 18 months, but if not let us get someone in who can finish the job off over the next 15 matches & why not Nigel Adkins, he's used to working on a shoestring budget, seems to get the most out of his players, he'd have a **** sight more money than he had at Scunny, got Southampton to the prem without spending massive amounts of cash & was harshly sacked IMO, so my point is Paolo, either stay & work with the new guys or go now & thanks for all you've done in the last 18 months, it truly has been a rollercoaster ride but 1 I've thoroughly enjoyed.

SPOT ON..S Red..

Dont get me wrong i would like PDC to stay BUT all this crap at the moment is rubbing off on the team,,
Yesterday we were shat and that was against h/pool..
Hate to say it but without ritchie we look lost

Nigel Adkins would be a great manager foe STFC..
BUT WOULD HE STEP DOWN ?

tally38 wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Just one more thought on our strikers...
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that every side has 3 strikers to call on, there are 72 of them in our division. As Collins is the fifth highest scorer and Williams is joint tenth, on their goalscoring alone they are doing pretty well. Factor in the other qualities they bring to our game, and I think it all adds up to a couple of good players. It may not be a prolific Austin-Paynter type of partnership but I reckon it's a decent one.
.
Sorry LR, you can have your stat hat back now!

THEY SHOULD BE FIRST AND SECOND THE AMOUNT OF CHANCES THEY HAVE MISSED

red white wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote:
In my opinion di canio has already made his decision and that is he is off! that wave after the game yesterday says it all really,the only confusing thing for me is why is he still here? not sure what point he is making by this am I staying or am I going?saying words like"untenable" mean one thing to me and that is I want out, I expect legal things are keeping him here at the moment and once this new consortium come in he will be gone! he was hired by j wray and a black with a 3 year plan so why would he continue cause I guarantee by the sounds of it the new owners will not flash the cash like the previous board of directors,on another note I hear members of this consortium all have luton town in there hearts with varied different business interests so why the hell are they taking over our club? why would they take over Banbury utd and a few months later us?lots of unanswered questions for me, black wanted shot of this club and has got out by any means possible,why would he care who takes over? I see trouble ahead and it is such a shame considering how well the team have done over the last 18 months,in my opinion I have always thought perhaps di canio feels he is actually bigger,better and superior to stfc and has always said he has ambitions to manage at a higher level so just perhaps that west ham job will come quicker than anyone expected,west ham fans have been singing his name at matches for the past 4 months and want alladyce out the door asap!!! good luck paolo and thankyou for all you have done during your time at stfc,definately one of the best managers we have had here at the county ground.

I disagree.

To me he is hurt and confused and not in control of the club he loves.

Until it is sorted out of course he is gonna be p1ssed off,,but he ain't walking,he is proper.

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
Just in case anyone is asking I have supported Swindon since 1960, this is my first foray on this forum but I have been known to make a point or two on other forums. My concern is why anyone in this day and age would take over a football club, one that is losing mega bucks per month at that. Jed Mc and his 4 mates must have some reason and I'm not sure that championship football is solely what they are about, neither do I believe it's about feeding a wad of money into a cash eating team with no return - so there must be a bigger picture here that not many are giving much thought to - perhaps they have ideas on improving the County Ground or possibly if they can find a cheap patch of land building a new stadium - whatever it is there has to be more in it than just the team. As for PDC we hear every match that he will do as he wants, I personally don't think he would move to another club mid season, if any club is currently without a manager it must be because he has just been sacked and therefor the club is in trouble - PDC won't want a possible relegation on his CV when he has a good chance of another promotion with the town.

southside7 wrote:

red white wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote:
In my opinion di canio has already made his decision and that is he is off! that wave after the game yesterday says it all really,the only confusing thing for me is why is he still here? not sure what point he is making by this am I staying or am I going?saying words like"untenable" mean one thing to me and that is I want out, I expect legal things are keeping him here at the moment and once this new consortium come in he will be gone! he was hired by j wray and a black with a 3 year plan so why would he continue cause I guarantee by the sounds of it the new owners will not flash the cash like the previous board of directors,on another note I hear members of this consortium all have luton town in there hearts with varied different business interests so why the hell are they taking over our club? why would they take over Banbury utd and a few months later us?lots of unanswered questions for me, black wanted shot of this club and has got out by any means possible,why would he care who takes over? I see trouble ahead and it is such a shame considering how well the team have done over the last 18 months,in my opinion I have always thought perhaps di canio feels he is actually bigger,better and superior to stfc and has always said he has ambitions to manage at a higher level so just perhaps that west ham job will come quicker than anyone expected,west ham fans have been singing his name at matches for the past 4 months and want alladyce out the door asap!!! good luck paolo and thankyou for all you have done during your time at stfc,definately one of the best managers we have had here at the county ground.

I disagree.

To me he is hurt and confused and not in control of the club he loves.

Until it is sorted out of course he is gonna be p1ssed off,,but he ain't walking,he is proper.

2 west ham fans on 606 tonight, both calling for Di Canio as they're all thoroughly p*ssed off with Sam. Will be really interesting to see how the new owners handle the job of a new manager, interesting and terrifying in equal measure.

Williams for me will still prove the doubters wrong. That flick over his head running on to it yesterday was incredible, electrifying player. Would be a lethal winger too mind.

the wizard wrote:

southside7 wrote:

red white wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote:
In my opinion di canio has already made his decision and that is he is off! that wave after the game yesterday says it all really,the only confusing thing for me is why is he still here? not sure what point he is making by this am I staying or am I going?saying words like"untenable" mean one thing to me and that is I want out, I expect legal things are keeping him here at the moment and once this new consortium come in he will be gone! he was hired by j wray and a black with a 3 year plan so why would he continue cause I guarantee by the sounds of it the new owners will not flash the cash like the previous board of directors,on another note I hear members of this consortium all have luton town in there hearts with varied different business interests so why the hell are they taking over our club? why would they take over Banbury utd and a few months later us?lots of unanswered questions for me, black wanted shot of this club and has got out by any means possible,why would he care who takes over? I see trouble ahead and it is such a shame considering how well the team have done over the last 18 months,in my opinion I have always thought perhaps di canio feels he is actually bigger,better and superior to stfc and has always said he has ambitions to manage at a higher level so just perhaps that west ham job will come quicker than anyone expected,west ham fans have been singing his name at matches for the past 4 months and want alladyce out the door asap!!! good luck paolo and thankyou for all you have done during your time at stfc,definately one of the best managers we have had here at the county ground.

I disagree.

To me he is hurt and confused and not in control of the club he loves.

Until it is sorted out of course he is gonna be p1ssed off,,but he ain't walking,he is proper.

2 west ham fans on 606 tonight, both calling for Di Canio as they're all thoroughly p*ssed off with Sam. Will be really interesting to see how the new owners handle the job of a new manager, interesting and terrifying in equal measure.

Williams for me will still prove the doubters wrong. That flick over his head running on to it yesterday was incredible, electrifying player. Would be a lethal winger too mind.

West Ham supporters have been calling for him ever since he joined us, if not before, but the return of the prodigal doesn't always work, add to that consider the back ground of the owners and who would they hire, the two don't go together, something which many have looked.

Williams as a winger, devastatingly quick, and would no doubt bring us many opportunities from the set pieces he would generate and defenders try to close him down, plus the odd penalty. Add to that he puts in some delightful crosses, and it would take the physiological pressure off him as being a winger opposed to striker. Very pleased others are now sharing the view I have had for a while. With Rooney improving it seems a good option .

the wizard wrote:

southside7 wrote:

red white wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote: In my opinion di canio has already made his decision and that is he is off! that wave after the game yesterday says it all really,the only confusing thing for me is why is he still here? not sure what point he is making by this am I staying or am I going?saying words like"untenable" mean one thing to me and that is I want out, I expect legal things are keeping him here at the moment and once this new consortium come in he will be gone! he was hired by j wray and a black with a 3 year plan so why would he continue cause I guarantee by the sounds of it the new owners will not flash the cash like the previous board of directors,on another note I hear members of this consortium all have luton town in there hearts with varied different business interests so why the hell are they taking over our club? why would they take over Banbury utd and a few months later us?lots of unanswered questions for me, black wanted shot of this club and has got out by any means possible,why would he care who takes over? I see trouble ahead and it is such a shame considering how well the team have done over the last 18 months,in my opinion I have always thought perhaps di canio feels he is actually bigger,better and superior to stfc and has always said he has ambitions to manage at a higher level so just perhaps that west ham job will come quicker than anyone expected,west ham fans have been singing his name at matches for the past 4 months and want alladyce out the door asap!!! good luck paolo and thankyou for all you have done during your time at stfc,definately one of the best managers we have had here at the county ground.

I disagree. To me he is hurt and confused and not in control of the club he loves. Until it is sorted out of course he is gonna be p1ssed off,,but he ain't walking,he is proper.

2 west ham fans on 606 tonight, both calling for Di Canio as they're all thoroughly p*ssed off with Sam. Will be really interesting to see how the new owners handle the job of a new manager, interesting and terrifying in equal measure. Williams for me will still prove the doubters wrong. That flick over his head running on to it yesterday was incredible, electrifying player. Would be a lethal winger too mind.

West Ham supporters have been calling for him ever since he joined us, if not before, but the return of the prodigal doesn't always work, add to that consider the back ground of the owners and who would they hire, the two don't go together, something which many have looked. Williams as a winger, devastatingly quick, and would no doubt bring us many opportunities from the set pieces he would generate and defenders try to close him down, plus the odd penalty. Add to that he puts in some delightful crosses, and it would take the physiological pressure off him as being a winger opposed to striker. Very pleased others are now sharing the view I have had for a while. With Rooney improving it seems a good option .

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
The Maestro only plays 4-4-2. Don't neccessarily agree but that's the way it is.

Grim perhaps abuse was to strong a word but you've made your position clear on Williams for a long time. I see it differently and I'm happy to back my opinion with cash as you know. Totally unconcerned by yesterday, it happens. As I've said numerous times its when we don't create chances we should worry.

Grim for the record I'd be surprised if we won the league if the Maestro leaves. I'm clearly hoping he doesn't. I actually think he's just putting the new board under pressure to finish the job.

I've long since said I that I prefer Macca at centre half as its the ne position on the pitch with time on the ball. Just my opinion mind.

Den you still haven't done a land registry search on the ground or you accepting the Goddard Estate had the original restrictive covenant?

We're one point off top unbeaten in 9 and still the majority of our fans are n suicide watch....

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
We had better hope PDC sticks around as the alternative maybe Paul Buckle who although was reasonable at Torquay was an abject failure at Bristol Rovers. PDC to the Prem, not sure there will be takers at the moment he has to prove he can work within a budget but most importantly his man management skills must improve ie Clarke, Magera and Kerrouche etc - just think Clarke might have been the answer to our goal scoring problems - seems to me he scores for fun and we kicked him out - not clever is it?

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
We had better hope PDC sticks around as the alternative maybe Paul Buckle who although was reasonable at Torquay was an abject failure at Bristol Rovers. PDC to the Prem, not sure there will be takers at the moment he has to prove he can work within a budget but most importantly his man management skills must improve ie Clarke, Magera and Kerrouche etc - just think Clarke might have been the answer to our goal scoring problems - seems to me he scores for fun and we kicked him out - not clever is it?

Strange post.

Oi Den! wrote:
Dreamo, I'm going to have a look at it tomorrow. Thanks for the tip.
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Agree that PDC will not change from 4-4-2. I think he likes the simplicity of it.

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
We had better hope PDC sticks around as the alternative maybe Paul Buckle who although was reasonable at Torquay was an abject failure at Bristol Rovers. PDC to the Prem, not sure there will be takers at the moment he has to prove he can work within a budget but most importantly his man management skills must improve ie Clarke, Magera and Kerrouche etc - just think Clarke might have been the answer to our goal scoring problems - seems to me he scores for fun and we kicked him out - not clever is it?

stfc2012 wrote:

joey butler wrote:
stfc 2012.

Has it perhaps crossed your mind that some posters on here are simply fed up with you talking down to them?

Having a difference of opinion is not talking down to someone. I'm fed up with the same people saying the same thing, effing and blinding, over the top PDC worship, knee-jerk reaction and old boy back slapping but that's fine as its a forum of opinions and everyone has as much right to theirs as I do mine. I'm not just going to agree for the sake of it or post for no reason. Apologies if I have come across in the way you suggest but nothing here is personal.

Another view wrote:
Good shout, Lydiard. I think that line up is worth a try. With Miller and Navarro sitting it should mean Simon and Rafa do not have to track back quite so much. Not every forward can track back as much as Wayne Rooney and still make lung-bursting runs back upfield.

Stratton Red wrote:

the wizard wrote:

southside7 wrote:

red white wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote: In my opinion di canio has already made his decision and that is he is off! that wave after the game yesterday says it all really,the only confusing thing for me is why is he still here? not sure what point he is making by this am I staying or am I going?saying words like"untenable" mean one thing to me and that is I want out, I expect legal things are keeping him here at the moment and once this new consortium come in he will be gone! he was hired by j wray and a black with a 3 year plan so why would he continue cause I guarantee by the sounds of it the new owners will not flash the cash like the previous board of directors,on another note I hear members of this consortium all have luton town in there hearts with varied different business interests so why the hell are they taking over our club? why would they take over Banbury utd and a few months later us?lots of unanswered questions for me, black wanted shot of this club and has got out by any means possible,why would he care who takes over? I see trouble ahead and it is such a shame considering how well the team have done over the last 18 months,in my opinion I have always thought perhaps di canio feels he is actually bigger,better and superior to stfc and has always said he has ambitions to manage at a higher level so just perhaps that west ham job will come quicker than anyone expected,west ham fans have been singing his name at matches for the past 4 months and want alladyce out the door asap!!! good luck paolo and thankyou for all you have done during your time at stfc,definately one of the best managers we have had here at the county ground.

I disagree. To me he is hurt and confused and not in control of the club he loves. Until it is sorted out of course he is gonna be p1ssed off,,but he ain't walking,he is proper.

2 west ham fans on 606 tonight, both calling for Di Canio as they're all thoroughly p*ssed off with Sam. Will be really interesting to see how the new owners handle the job of a new manager, interesting and terrifying in equal measure. Williams for me will still prove the doubters wrong. That flick over his head running on to it yesterday was incredible, electrifying player. Would be a lethal winger too mind.

West Ham supporters have been calling for him ever since he joined us, if not before, but the return of the prodigal doesn't always work, add to that consider the back ground of the owners and who would they hire, the two don't go together, something which many have looked. Williams as a winger, devastatingly quick, and would no doubt bring us many opportunities from the set pieces he would generate and defenders try to close him down, plus the odd penalty. Add to that he puts in some delightful crosses, and it would take the physiological pressure off him as being a winger opposed to striker. Very pleased others are now sharing the view I have had for a while. With Rooney improving it seems a good option .

Williams devastatingly quick??? Which Williams are you watching???
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Whist there is no doubting his skill and ability, to quote one Gordon Strachan "I'd much rather have a great goal scorer than a scorer of great goals"... Answers on a postcard which player he was referring too - no Googling ladies...

the wizard wrote:
Like him as I do but, when did Strachan ever really do well as a manager, always good as a player, amusing as a pundit, but as a manager, hardly successful, so how that leaves him as a definitive judge of players is questionable in my view. Williams has good speed and is definitely good enough at this level, proven last season, his goals will come, our manager has said as much, and that is good enough for most.

Stratton Red wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Like him as I do but, when did Strachan ever really do well as a manager, always good as a player, amusing as a pundit, but as a manager, hardly successful, so how that leaves him as a definitive judge of players is questionable in my view. Williams has good speed and is definitely good enough at this level, proven last season, his goals will come, our manager has said as much, and that is good enough for most.

Good speed - yes, devastating speed...
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I like Williams and have hime down as a consistent 20 goals a L1 season striker...

Pewsham Red wrote:

Davidsyrett wrote:

Haydonender wrote:
Frustrated last night but in the cold light of day there are definitely positives to take. We gained ground on the two teams above and kept our unbeaten run going. Decent attendance too to show Paolo our support and new owners what can happen if they keep prices reasonable.

Overall just think we looked tired after the away trips and poor pitches and were unable to control the game. Hopefully the break now will allow players to recover and also us to maybe bring some fresh blood in if the takeover is approved. Could do with Pack, a winger and a natural goalscorer as PDC said

assuming there is 5500 ST holders, we had 4500 pay on the day yesterday @ £15 a ticket, that's the same as 8200 paying £25 which is probably what we would have got without the cheap tickets anyway. So only extra profit would be the extra food/drinks and merchandise sold.

I expected about 10,000 yesterday but if we are really looking to push this club forward we should have been looking for 11/12K yesterday. What will make the stay away fans come back? free tickets??

If we cant sell out the ground for a run of the mill game with tickets at £15 when will we?

Not sure what you expect DS. Do you really think just shy of 10,000 at home to Hartlepool in Div 3 is bad?

How many teams in our division would be expecting 11/12k in similar circumstances. Only Coventry and Sheffield United would get better home crowds (or possibly Pompey).

I don't get why we feel we should be getting bigger crowds or enticing stay away fans. We are not and never have been a big club and our crowds are as good, if not better, than we can expect, irrespective of ticket price.

Our trouble is we have been spending money at a rate our crowds can't sustain.

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
Just in case anyone is asking I have supported Swindon since 1960, this is my first foray on this forum but I have been known to make a point or two on other forums. My concern is why anyone in this day and age would take over a football club, one that is losing mega bucks per month at that. Jed Mc and his 4 mates must have some reason and I'm not sure that championship football is solely what they are about, neither do I believe it's about feeding a wad of money into a cash eating team with no return - so there must be a bigger picture here that not many are giving much thought to - perhaps they have ideas on improving the County Ground or possibly if they can find a cheap patch of land building a new stadium - whatever it is there has to be more in it than just the team. As for PDC we hear every match that he will do as he wants, I personally don't think he would move to another club mid season, if any club is currently without a manager it must be because he has just been sacked and therefor the club is in trouble - PDC won't want a possible relegation on his CV when he has a good chance of another promotion with the town.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
Just in case anyone is asking I have supported Swindon since 1960, this is my first foray on this forum but I have been known to make a point or two on other forums. My concern is why anyone in this day and age would take over a football club, one that is losing mega bucks per month at that. Jed Mc and his 4 mates must have some reason and I'm not sure that championship football is solely what they are about, neither do I believe it's about feeding a wad of money into a cash eating team with no return - so there must be a bigger picture here that not many are giving much thought to - perhaps they have ideas on improving the County Ground or possibly if they can find a cheap patch of land building a new stadium - whatever it is there has to be more in it than just the team. As for PDC we hear every match that he will do as he wants, I personally don't think he would move to another club mid season, if any club is currently without a manager it must be because he has just been sacked and therefor the club is in trouble - PDC won't want a possible relegation on his CV when he has a good chance of another promotion with the town.

Tom welcome,Crezzy.

Davidsyrett wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Davidsyrett wrote:

Haydonender wrote:
Frustrated last night but in the cold light of day there are definitely positives to take. We gained ground on the two teams above and kept our unbeaten run going. Decent attendance too to show Paolo our support and new owners what can happen if they keep prices reasonable.

Overall just think we looked tired after the away trips and poor pitches and were unable to control the game. Hopefully the break now will allow players to recover and also us to maybe bring some fresh blood in if the takeover is approved. Could do with Pack, a winger and a natural goalscorer as PDC said

assuming there is 5500 ST holders, we had 4500 pay on the day yesterday @ £15 a ticket, that's the same as 8200 paying £25 which is probably what we would have got without the cheap tickets anyway. So only extra profit would be the extra food/drinks and merchandise sold.

I expected about 10,000 yesterday but if we are really looking to push this club forward we should have been looking for 11/12K yesterday. What will make the stay away fans come back? free tickets??

If we cant sell out the ground for a run of the mill game with tickets at £15 when will we?

Not sure what you expect DS. Do you really think just shy of 10,000 at home to Hartlepool in Div 3 is bad?

How many teams in our division would be expecting 11/12k in similar circumstances. Only Coventry and Sheffield United would get better home crowds (or possibly Pompey).

I don't get why we feel we should be getting bigger crowds or enticing stay away fans. We are not and never have been a big club and our crowds are as good, if not better, than we can expect, irrespective of ticket price.

Our trouble is we have been spending money at a rate our crowds can't sustain.

As I said, I expected 10K, and I agree it is a very good gate for a game against a bottom of the table club, but with so many people moaning about the cost of a ticket, surely it would have been an ideal time for all those who only come to the CG a couple of times a season to turn up, if nothing else to prove that lower prices really would entice them back.

We sold out against Aston Villa, and know doubt we will if we get to the play-offs or have to win a game to get promoted.

Yesterday we had a chance to go top and maybe PdC last game in charge, would it have been to much to ask that a few more turned up?