Takeover set for completion a day too late for Paolo (From Swindon Advertiser)
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SWINDON TOWN: Takeover set for completion a day too late for Paolo
6:00am Tuesday 19th February 2013 in Sport By Sam Morshead
Paolo Di Canio, who has quit as Swindon boss
SWINDON Town are expected to officially have new owners later today, less than 24 hours after Paolo Di Canio announced his resignation as manager of the club.
A consortium fronted by Jed McCrory is set to take charge at the County Ground after all the members of the incoming board passed their Football League fit and proper persons tests.
Proof of funds is understood to be in place and the League is expected to ratify the deal sometime today, whereupon the new investors can pick up the pieces after a difficult few months at the County Ground.
The Adver has learnt that the Football League required paperwork to be re-submitted by the Robins, which held the takeover process up recently.
McCrory’s board is believed to consist of the former Luton director and founder of corporate booking agency Eminence Martin King, ex-QPR and Brentford commercial manager Gary Hooper and operations specialist Steve Murrall, who has experience within the pharmaceutical industry.
Their first job could be to appoint a new manager following Di Canio’s announcement last night that he wants to leave the club. Town have yet to accept the Italian’s resignation, which he confirmed in a statement released to the Advertiser, but it is more than likely that a replacement will be needed for the Italian.
Bookmakers made Phil Brown, Nigel Adkins and Paul Dickov among the early front-runners for the position last night, while the Advertiser understands former Wycombe and Leicester boss Peter Taylor is interested in the role.
Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether.
Pack was set to join on a loan to permanent switch from Cheltenham, whose manager Mark Yates has not expressed a desire to keep him at the club, while Green is wanted by MK Dons. Furthermore, the Adver has learnt that Bradley Wright-Phillips is a target of Brentford during the emergency loan window.
Swindon travel to Tranmere in League One tonight. Di Canio’s assistant manager, Fabrizio Piccareta, is expected to take charge of first-team affairs.
It is yet to be decided what will happen to the rest of Di Canio’s back room team but it is believed that they will all leave the County Ground.
Comments(141)
UsernameSTFC
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6:08am Tue 19 Feb 13
ChippyBOB.
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6:09am Tue 19 Feb 13
Chish and Fips
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6:10am Tue 19 Feb 13
robstfc wrote:I think it may cause more issues than it cured - perhaps it is a case of, it was great whilst it lasted but lets move on now. Lick our wounds and put up a fight for the rest of the season no matter whose in charge.
Still so gutted with last nights news. IF and it's a big if the takeover is ratified today.... Is there any chance Paolo could change his mind? Or am I bring overly optimistic ?
ChippyBOB.
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6:10am Tue 19 Feb 13
Redhouse Red
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6:25am Tue 19 Feb 13
Pdcs resignation has not been accepted
The fl heakd up the deal as stfc got the paperwork wrong
Incoming board got paolo to sign new (temp) contract. If they wanted him out, they had a chance last week
Ritchie had to go to pay the bills, not consulting the manager was poor form
Ultimatley paolo (who appears to be the most punctual italian ever!) Chose to walk.
No one asked or conspired to this happening
stfclondon
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6:37am Tue 19 Feb 13
ChippyBOB. wrote:I hope they do it for themselves.
I hope the team do it or him tonight.
He's gone. His decision.
Like Chish & Fips says above, it was great while it lasted but now it's time to move on.
DarrenSTFCRomain
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6:40am Tue 19 Feb 13
ChippyBOB. wrote:I hope the tean do it for SWINDON TOWN FC 2night NOT for pdc as he has gone so get over it....
I hope the team do it or him tonight.
Brainy_G93
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6:40am Tue 19 Feb 13
"Who needs DiCanio"
"We've got Fabrizio"
We'll see.
As a long term replacement my mate George suggests Dietmar Hamman...any thoughts?
EastleazeRed
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6:41am Tue 19 Feb 13
bowralbob
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6:51am Tue 19 Feb 13
It's been a complete nightmare of a year so far.
And yet we are still at the top of the league (soon will be) so keep positive and back Jed to find a good replacement.
God knows who would want ,or be able to follow Paolo though.
Hope today our luck changes today and we are given the all clear for the takeover.
Never a dull day at STFC!
Kingsdown 1974
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6:53am Tue 19 Feb 13
ly.....I think someone like Tisdale at Exeter would not be a bad choice...
SouthcoastRed
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7:10am Tue 19 Feb 13
Time to take stock and move on. I will always love Pdc... He has revolutionised the way we play football and it is truly a joy to watch on occasions.
On reflection, having Pdc at the helm has been a bit like going out with a girl out of my league (so many are) - its enjoyable whilst it lasts, but not sustainable... You're always on edge... There is no stability as u constantly ponder when she'll up and leave u. The attention is nice, other guys are jealous so turn against u. She's got a track record of broken hearts. Etc etc.
The highs are high but the lows are very low.
In my middle age i crave stability.
I love paolo. Always will. It's been a great rollercoater. The reality is he delivered us one magnificent season.
He was never ours to keep and was open about that. Onwards and upwards. Plenty more fish is the sea.
mallorca
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7:14am Tue 19 Feb 13
Perhaps timme was needed to get the funds in place anyway we await what GUV has to say now.
Do hope the team get a result tonight and hope the next BOSS can perform as well as Pdc
peatmoor pirate
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7:15am Tue 19 Feb 13
super reds
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7:16am Tue 19 Feb 13
Kingsdown 1974 wrote:Why not Adkins, he was manager of Scunthorpe in this league, Ok so he moved on to Southampton & got them to the prem, but I see no reason we couldn't have him here
Nigel Adkins to Swindon......serious
ly.....I think someone like Tisdale at Exeter would not be a bad choice...
smirg kcab
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7:16am Tue 19 Feb 13
Downwards and downwards
Mike newell, this has been a set up
Last step
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7:18am Tue 19 Feb 13
Gerry Cottle's red & white army.
Baritone
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7:21am Tue 19 Feb 13
Nigel Adkins for me! If wrong, I am sure to be corrected but I believe that Adkins has had instant success at every club he has managed. If he were to continue this record with Swindon, that may be all we need to get promoted.
Let's also hope that the Adver is right and that the FL will ratify the takeover, which should be a big lift for the players before tonight's absolutely crucial game.
London Red
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7:27am Tue 19 Feb 13
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We could be sat top come 22:00
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What we need now is the takeover to go through and then an appointment o intent to make sure we remain there
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If we go top tonight we must be a very attractive proposition - who would not want to come in and get a title on their CV which still is a real possibility
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As said above why is Adkins so unrealistic?
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Doubt he is on millions he has always signed on for a L1 club - if he can be shown by the board they mean business he could be tempted as he could be Chanpionship next season!
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If I'm honest outside him there are not many attractive propositions - not interested in Brown or Dickov
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Taylor would have been good pre PdC but not now - we have moved on too much
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Tisdale has lost his sparkle as he seemed to stay at Exeter too long and went backwards - so wouldn't have the wow like he would have 2 years ago
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The only other real wows would be Hoddle or Curbishley and they could lift the place
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Not so wow but a good option could be Calderwood
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Can't see a player manager option at this stage of the season - had it been the summer then maybe - then a Giggs or Carragher
Haydonender
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7:30am Tue 19 Feb 13
Still, I'm trying to be positive today.....we could be top tonight even with no manager and no owners!
eddyxx
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7:32am Tue 19 Feb 13
NewburyRobin
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7:33am Tue 19 Feb 13
We are of course STFC & we have been here before, but not uncertainty like this all at the same time.
We are completely in limbo until we hear from the football league & that is even more worrying.
Amongst all this we also have an ex loyal servant of the club who is very poorly, my best wishes to Martin Ling for some good news health wise.
STFCman&boy1973
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7:38am Tue 19 Feb 13
smirg kcab wrote:Wow, that's what I think, they knew if they got rid of him, there would be uproar, well, from some fans, so get him to walk out, takes the heat off of you, bring in experienced people, Newell Harford, job done....
We have signed Oscar pistorious to shoot us up the league.
Downwards and downwards
Mike newell, this has been a set up
doomster
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7:39am Tue 19 Feb 13
oxford exile
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7:44am Tue 19 Feb 13
Since 1950
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7:49am Tue 19 Feb 13
When PDC's men were working heroics ON the field to get us within 3 points of the top with a game or 2 in hand, another total balls up eminates from the Swindon Town Board Room. Just when we all thought the 'amature nights' were over at SN1!
You really couldn't make it up. Once again our beloved Club has become the laughing stock of the F.L. Well, thanks Mr Black. Can't blame him, it's his money? Well I can. When you take on these 'projects' you have a responsibility to the community to see it through, not jump ship and leave broken promises.
No one come out of this mess without blame. Not even the new consortium, whoever these mystery men turn out to be. Not even Paolo for the way he's gone and the timing of it. Not the outgoing 'Board', or what's left of them.
You could write a book on the off field antics of this season. Certainly more than would be decently allowable on this comments section.
I just hope the boys can keep it together tonight at Tranmere and give us somthing to be happy about again.
COYR!
louiscassius
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7:53am Tue 19 Feb 13
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:Well mate,
smirg kcab wrote:Wow, that's what I think, they knew if they got rid of him, there would be uproar, well, from some fans, so get him to walk out, takes the heat off of you, bring in experienced people, Newell Harford, job done....
We have signed Oscar pistorious to shoot us up the league.
Downwards and downwards
Mike newell, this has been a set up
I said last week he'd go and to find out he actually tendered it last Tues......
I think you might just have a point there about leaving some of the important paperwork out....allowing Paolo to quit himself.....
Its does take the sting away from the New board......
I think like SAPF (Ian) said...
The whole take over business stinks to high heaven to me......
Sad day.......
But, i'll pray like everyone someone amazing comes in, like Paolo wishing to prove they are the best manager.....young, inspirational motivated individual.......
Here's hoping....
Louis :-(((((
TheDukeOfBanbury
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7:57am Tue 19 Feb 13
Go and get PDC back and as soon as the takeover is completed suggest you communicate to the Supporters who have been in the dark over the past weeks.
Why am I going tonight. Head says give up following STFC, heart says come on Son, one day we will be millionaires. Yeah fools and horses club very appropriate.
RED-MERLIN
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7:58am Tue 19 Feb 13
RED-MERLIN
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8:00am Tue 19 Feb 13
towiered
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8:00am Tue 19 Feb 13
stfclondon
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8:01am Tue 19 Feb 13
Still, it's done now. I wish him all the best for the future, but I support Swindon Town FC and he is nothing to do with the club any more. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he pursued a claim for constructive dismissal. Let's hope not.
London Red
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8:05am Tue 19 Feb 13
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The guy who got Forest Green Rovers relegated only to be kept up due to Sailsbury. Then stayed up on goal difference before a mid table finish in his 3rd year
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Certainly not an inspiring choice for me and lets not forget he was going to be offered it before Wilson but due to public outrage they changed their minds
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Can't see many having changed their minds now
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I have I was for him then but against hi now - he's a Malpas - good coach not a manager if you ask me
stfclondon
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8:06am Tue 19 Feb 13
doomster wrote:If you want Hockaday, I take it you don't know any Forest Green fans!
Dave hockaday would be my choice talk of Atkins are simply unrealistic
smirg kcab
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8:06am Tue 19 Feb 13
PLEASE STAY PAOLO
Oi Den!
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8:09am Tue 19 Feb 13
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I would be interested to know who at the club issued last night's statement. Is Patey still there?
louiscassius
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8:12am Tue 19 Feb 13
towiered wrote:Brilliant....
So on a lighter note I awake this morning after a broken nights sleep & empty wine bottles & all I can think of is the quote from Charlton Heston at the end of Planet of the Apes 'You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah **** you, God **** you all to hell!'
You forgot the punching the sand as the sea washes over him in despair.......
Nice quote though.....
Its how we're all feeling right now....
Louis :-((((
Since 1950
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8:12am Tue 19 Feb 13
smirg kcab wrote:Grim. If Paolo doesn't know now that the fans don't want him to go, he never will.
I will start the petition on here please add your quote under mine, lets show jed we want him back.anythings worth a try and maybe grim will be a hero PLEASE STAY PAOLO
After the demonstrations of support for him at the last away matches and at the CG against 'Pools', if he doesn't get it then there's no point.
Another view
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8:19am Tue 19 Feb 13
7:10am Tue 19 Feb 13
I am truly gutted, but I don't think he's coming back. I agree with other posters - it would do more harm than good now.
Time to take stock and move on. I will always love Pdc... He has revolutionised the way we play football and it is truly a joy to watch on occasions.
On reflection, having Pdc at the helm has been a bit like going out with a girl out of my league (so many are) - its enjoyable whilst it lasts, but not sustainable... You're always on edge... There is no stability as u constantly ponder when she'll up and leave u. The attention is nice, other guys are jealous so turn against u. She's got a track record of broken hearts. Etc etc.
The highs are high but the lows are very low.
In my middle age i crave stability.
I love paolo. Always will. It's been a great rollercoater. The reality is he delivered us one magnificent season.
He was never ours to keep and was open about that. Onwards and upwards. Plenty more fish is the sea.”
- My thoughts exactly. And don't forget the expensive presents, South Coast - my bank balance was hit more than once when I fished in deep waters!
oldandwise
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8:19am Tue 19 Feb 13
louiscassius
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8:20am Tue 19 Feb 13
Since 1950 wrote:Grim,
smirg kcab wrote:Grim. If Paolo doesn't know now that the fans don't want him to go, he never will.
I will start the petition on here please add your quote under mine, lets show jed we want him back.anythings worth a try and maybe grim will be a hero PLEASE STAY PAOLO
After the demonstrations of support for him at the last away matches and at the CG against 'Pools', if he doesn't get it then there's no point.
Just leave it fella.....the guy obviously wants to leave.
We all thought he would stay and fight......but so like alot of us thought the fight is just not his style........
If he wasnt going to be able to walk league 1 by spending even more money we DONT have, then he wasnt going to hang around.....simples!!
I must admit, like other fans have said this morning.....80% gutted, 20% relieved.
Just would like to get a young solid manager who will plan and try and slavage a little bit of this season..... and maybe plan for next season well.
Louis :-))))
madterrier
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8:20am Tue 19 Feb 13
Invariably, managers only resign because they have another job to go to - or think they have. Paolo has 18 months of his current contract to run. If Paolo is an asset to Swindon Town, and a club e.g. Leeds want him as their new manager, it would be better for us if they had to pay compensation.
I don't know what the terms of Paolo's contract are, what the get-out clauses are, or whether he could even be in breach of contract and the club could decline his resignation.
So all the language and statements from Paolo could be seen as an effort to build a case for constructive dismissal instead. Contract and promises broken; players sold without him being consulted; no communication from the board; position has become 'untenable' etc.
I don't think that Paolo would sue the club for constructive dismissal (but Alan Curbishley sued West Ham and got £2m after they sold players 'against his wishes'). Apart from anything else, he at least knows the club doesn't have any money. But by building his case against the (current) board, he would strengthen his hand in being allowed to join another club without a battle, in the event that he has been tapped up while still under contract to Swindon.
If he doesn't have anything else lined up, then you would have thought his managerial CV would have been boosted immeasurably by galvanising the club and guiding Swindon to a successive promotion, in the face of adversity, on a constrained budget.
All conjecture of course. But Paolo's statements and timing do have a calculated nature about them. And he's meant to be fiery and emotional.
bobbylashley
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8:21am Tue 19 Feb 13
SeanG92
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8:24am Tue 19 Feb 13
TerryHubbard
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8:26am Tue 19 Feb 13
New Manager in for me would be Alan Curbishley or Dietmar Hamann.
STFC Higworth
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8:27am Tue 19 Feb 13
He has let everyone of us down. I know some people will not like it but I love the guy and feel very let down.
louiscassius
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8:29am Tue 19 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:I think you may find him the manager of Coventry City.....or another Club soon enough...
Re-post of my late night comment from another thread...
Invariably, managers only resign because they have another job to go to - or think they have. Paolo has 18 months of his current contract to run. If Paolo is an asset to Swindon Town, and a club e.g. Leeds want him as their new manager, it would be better for us if they had to pay compensation.
I don't know what the terms of Paolo's contract are, what the get-out clauses are, or whether he could even be in breach of contract and the club could decline his resignation.
So all the language and statements from Paolo could be seen as an effort to build a case for constructive dismissal instead. Contract and promises broken; players sold without him being consulted; no communication from the board; position has become 'untenable' etc.
I don't think that Paolo would sue the club for constructive dismissal (but Alan Curbishley sued West Ham and got £2m after they sold players 'against his wishes'). Apart from anything else, he at least knows the club doesn't have any money. But by building his case against the (current) board, he would strengthen his hand in being allowed to join another club without a battle, in the event that he has been tapped up while still under contract to Swindon.
If he doesn't have anything else lined up, then you would have thought his managerial CV would have been boosted immeasurably by galvanising the club and guiding Swindon to a successive promotion, in the face of adversity, on a constrained budget.
All conjecture of course. But Paolo's statements and timing do have a calculated nature about them. And he's meant to be fiery and emotional.
As you put it so wel....
This does seem to have a very calculated theme......
All i know is....
The Players who put us 3 points off the top of League 1 bar one (Ritchie) and remember the team isnt just one man.......
Is still here, still able to fight, the things they have been taught are still relevant and we can still go out there tonight and show the world
We Are STFC!!!!
We are a future Championship Club!!!
With or Without Paolo.
End Of!!
Louis :-))) COYR'sssss
madterrier
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8:30am Tue 19 Feb 13
Been saying for more than a week now that we should try and get Jamie Carragher - now.
If we have to wait until summer, then please do not get an 'experienced, safe pair of hands' on a long contract. 'Safe pair of hands' equates to safe mid-table position to me. Might as well let Bodin manage it until May and then shake it up from there.
Paolo was always going to be a difficult act to follow, but there are other acts out there.
With the disappointing attendances, takeover/loss of wealthy backers, a decaying old ground with little movement on its redevelopment, and now the loss of its high-profile manager, I don't think the club is in any way ready for the Championship right now.
Cookie43
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8:30am Tue 19 Feb 13
mallorca wrote:What is this obsession with this Guv
Who know´s Pdc could change his mind?????? you never know.As for this re- submitting paperwork that could only happen to SWINDON TOWN.
Perhaps timme was needed to get the funds in place anyway we await what GUV has to say now.
Do hope the team get a result tonight and hope the next BOSS can perform as well as Pdc
He knows nothing just attention seeking. Anyone could of said want he said its not rocket science most of the crap he spilled was nonsense.!
Bet he is having a great laugh at all your expense when he reads people pleasing with him for info
Most of us know what he says is bull and ignore him
Oi Den!
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8:31am Tue 19 Feb 13
louiscassius
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8:34am Tue 19 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:Bang on Den.....
Good points terrier. Whatever is going on, I don't think anyone should underestimate PDC's nous when it comes to dealing with the media, ably assisted by Mr S of course.
DBTSTFC
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8:36am Tue 19 Feb 13
I now understand what Paolo felt like. The main man left the job half finished also leaving a cupboard full of Broken promises and a trail of lies as long as the A419.
Wish i had 8000 fans singing my name to cheer me up.
(Rant over. Don't feel any better though)
Going to miss you PDC.
I don't blame him for leaving. I just really though you was here until the end of the season.
Thanks PDC sorry to see you leave good luck with everything.
Shame you wont be here to see through to championship.
But we can get there with out you!!!!!
COYR
Big win tonight in memory of the legend that was PDC
oncearedalwaysared
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8:40am Tue 19 Feb 13
This is beginning to look as though we are heading for austerity measures that would have David Cameron wincing.
As yet, there is no confirmation of any substantial money behind any of the new Board, so maybe Jed is hoping to lift income streams by co-ordinating a local derby twice a year with Banbury, but with them staying in their league, and us joining them!
PDC's team will be gone within 48 hours which will leave Paul Bodin to take temporary charge while the Board allow a respectable period of uncertainty to be replaced with new hope when they appoint Harford and Newell.
I bet all the other clubs around us must be sighing a huge sigh of relief that they now have a massively increased chance of staying, or getting, into the top six, because we will be on the slide.
Sorry to be so negative, but as businessmen, the previous and new Board's have all contrived to f"~k this up like a bunch of amateurs and I for one am truly p'd off about it.
rant over, now let's move on...
chrystovski
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8:41am Tue 19 Feb 13
because...
- We're 6th in the league with the potential to go top if we win our game(s) in hand.
- Great playing squad
- Great home and away following
- We've got 4 sides to a stadium
- We don't play in Yellow
- We're not a mid - lower league 2 team
Come on you reds!!!
eddyxx
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8:42am Tue 19 Feb 13
chrystovski
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8:43am Tue 19 Feb 13
SouthcoastRed wrote:Haha brilliant post
I am truly gutted, but I don't think he's coming back. I agree with other posters - it would do more harm than good now. Time to take stock and move on. I will always love Pdc... He has revolutionised the way we play football and it is truly a joy to watch on occasions. On reflection, having Pdc at the helm has been a bit like going out with a girl out of my league (so many are) - its enjoyable whilst it lasts, but not sustainable... You're always on edge... There is no stability as u constantly ponder when she'll up and leave u. The attention is nice, other guys are jealous so turn against u. She's got a track record of broken hearts. Etc etc. The highs are high but the lows are very low. In my middle age i crave stability. I love paolo. Always will. It's been a great rollercoater. The reality is he delivered us one magnificent season. He was never ours to keep and was open about that. Onwards and upwards. Plenty more fish is the sea.
Oi Den!
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8:44am Tue 19 Feb 13
tenerifetaxi
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8:44am Tue 19 Feb 13
Highworth red
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8:47am Tue 19 Feb 13
louiscassius
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8:55am Tue 19 Feb 13
tenerifetaxi wrote:That was a nice honest post....
I thought I would reflect overnight on the news yesterday before posting my musings. No doubt I will be criticised or lambasted by the website mafia, but hey ho! Like most I am both disappointed and troubled by this situation, but will wait before making any hasty or rash decisions. Paolo was a ‘Marmite’ manager, but few could doubt his passion, commitment and loyalty to our club. He has also put STFC back in the limelight and the effect was beginning to reflect in a slowly growing crowd at each game, which in the current economic climate is no mean feat. I have been a lifelong STFC fan, but will confess a patchy attendance home and away. I do not even have a second ‘glory’ club to ease my pain! I am not a fortune follower but stopped attending games altogether during the Malpas/Hart era, as I felt that I was wasting my money. With renewed optimism last year I had started to attend regularly again. Like many on here, I have not had a pay rise in 5 years, but despite this I made some savings elsewhere, and with my lovely wife’s consent I purchased a season ticket this year, my first in nearly 20 years! Not only that but I also started taking my 3 children as well who now know of STFC ,PDC , the players and love going to every home game. I also convinced my stay away father in law to invest in a season ticket for himself! That was the power of PDC to this club. If he is reading this I would personally like to thank him for all his hard work, and wish him well in his next position. As to STFC, I will take stock over the coming weeks and read with interest every new development and decide. I don’t make threats or look to throw my teddy out of the pram, and I recognise that the club must think of the long term survival. My love for this club will not die, and my sincerest hope is that the new owners have recognised the potential benefits of getting into the championship as quickly as possible in order to grow revenues. I will support them if I can see that the club is moving forward. However, if the club goes back to the dark days of not so long ago, my armchair may get a little more wear than it used to! Long live STFC.
oldtownred
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8:57am Tue 19 Feb 13
I can see why someone would feel deflated by the sale of Ritchie after working so hard and with such dedication to achieve a goal.
I think PDC will live to regret this day. To have what it takes to be a top manager you need to be able to work through adversity. It is all very well to say he was let down, what about all those he has now let down
By that I refer to the fans whjo gave him such love and friendship and support.
The players who have given there all and were lured to the Town by the story and vision he told and sold.
His backroom staff who will now find their places untenable.
The new consortium who will start on the back foot and without any momentum.
I am sorry PDC. I thought you were a man of honour. It seems the honour is only what you receive and not what you give.
There is a place to talk still. If the deal gets ratified we are in a state of limbo. If PDC was a true man, a really honourable person, he would not let down so many people top satisfy his own ego. I wouold have far more respect for someone who realised honour was a two way street.
As for a new manager. Get someone new in. Someone exciting. Our great successes have been with new untested managers like PDC, Macari and Hoddle. How about a Paul Scholes for instance? Someone raw, keen, with knowledge of current players and more inportantly a hunger for success.
louiscassius
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9:00am Tue 19 Feb 13
oldtownred wrote:Very good points in the main, and very much heart felt!!
What a mess we find ourselves in again.
I can see why someone would feel deflated by the sale of Ritchie after working so hard and with such dedication to achieve a goal.
I think PDC will live to regret this day. To have what it takes to be a top manager you need to be able to work through adversity. It is all very well to say he was let down, what about all those he has now let down
By that I refer to the fans whjo gave him such love and friendship and support.
The players who have given there all and were lured to the Town by the story and vision he told and sold.
His backroom staff who will now find their places untenable.
The new consortium who will start on the back foot and without any momentum.
I am sorry PDC. I thought you were a man of honour. It seems the honour is only what you receive and not what you give.
There is a place to talk still. If the deal gets ratified we are in a state of limbo. If PDC was a true man, a really honourable person, he would not let down so many people top satisfy his own ego. I wouold have far more respect for someone who realised honour was a two way street.
As for a new manager. Get someone new in. Someone exciting. Our great successes have been with new untested managers like PDC, Macari and Hoddle. How about a Paul Scholes for instance? Someone raw, keen, with knowledge of current players and more inportantly a hunger for success.
Since 1950
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9:01am Tue 19 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:Den. I think it important he is the man for tonights game at Tranmere. After that I guess the whole back room team will go where Di Canio goes.
Piccareta is 5/2 favourite. I don't see why he shouldn't be given a shot at it. Who knows? It could even give us a boost and start an exciting new chapter. He would be less of a gamble than a complete novice manager. But would he be able/want to break away from PDC?
the owl
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9:05am Tue 19 Feb 13
How long can any club pander to an ego with such chronic mental instability.;
Another "hero" will emerge and excited followers will scream( insert name) Red and White Army once more.
Look on the bright side - no points deduction, no relegation and the Chairman not in jail.
I recall similar emotion when Sturrock walked and he was forgotten - rightly- within weeks.
dreamofacleansheet2
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9:06am Tue 19 Feb 13
How the new board are getting cuffed is beyond me. What could they do? They agreed a deal with Paolo until trend of the season. Paolo has left. Really didn't think he would (during season) and really think he's lost it a bit in the manner he's done it. We could get taken over today which would be absurd.
Never wanted him to go as think it's a disaster. Actually surprised he hasn't gone before, but not keen in his timing the day before our biggest game of the season.
The new board (assuming takeover goes through) may well turn out to be a disaster but the hysteria on here, both uninformed and over the top seems ridiculous to me.
Sill hoping it's Paolo playing psychological games ahead of an away victory tonight. If not just hope it's an away victory.
Can't make tonight but to Duke et al sing it loud, sing it proud. Have very fond memories of Prentin Park: may they continue......
eddyxx
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9:12am Tue 19 Feb 13
Kingseleven
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9:18am Tue 19 Feb 13
I was a big PDC fan but am starting to think he was a bit of a luxury.
Stability is key now and the team just have to go out there tonight and put us on top of the league for the pride in the shirt and for us fans.
Someone mentioned that having PDC at the helm was like having a really fit girlfriend and punching above your weight ( brilliant ) I don't know about you but whenever I got dumped ( only happened twice ... Haha ) I wanted to move on and not look back. So if PDC did a U turn.......? Hmmm
COYR......3 points against Tranny would put a smile on every fans face :)
RED-MERLIN
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9:28am Tue 19 Feb 13
MarksDad
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9:32am Tue 19 Feb 13
RED-MERLIN wrote:Hope not! its been proved that what we have is better
A positive : - does this mean we get Paul Caddis back ?
NewburyRobin
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9:36am Tue 19 Feb 13
louiscassius wrote:Thoughts of many Tenerife, thoughts of many.
tenerifetaxi wrote:That was a nice honest post....
I thought I would reflect overnight on the news yesterday before posting my musings. No doubt I will be criticised or lambasted by the website mafia, but hey ho! Like most I am both disappointed and troubled by this situation, but will wait before making any hasty or rash decisions. Paolo was a ‘Marmite’ manager, but few could doubt his passion, commitment and loyalty to our club. He has also put STFC back in the limelight and the effect was beginning to reflect in a slowly growing crowd at each game, which in the current economic climate is no mean feat. I have been a lifelong STFC fan, but will confess a patchy attendance home and away. I do not even have a second ‘glory’ club to ease my pain! I am not a fortune follower but stopped attending games altogether during the Malpas/Hart era, as I felt that I was wasting my money. With renewed optimism last year I had started to attend regularly again. Like many on here, I have not had a pay rise in 5 years, but despite this I made some savings elsewhere, and with my lovely wife’s consent I purchased a season ticket this year, my first in nearly 20 years! Not only that but I also started taking my 3 children as well who now know of STFC ,PDC , the players and love going to every home game. I also convinced my stay away father in law to invest in a season ticket for himself! That was the power of PDC to this club. If he is reading this I would personally like to thank him for all his hard work, and wish him well in his next position. As to STFC, I will take stock over the coming weeks and read with interest every new development and decide. I don’t make threats or look to throw my teddy out of the pram, and I recognise that the club must think of the long term survival. My love for this club will not die, and my sincerest hope is that the new owners have recognised the potential benefits of getting into the championship as quickly as possible in order to grow revenues. I will support them if I can see that the club is moving forward. However, if the club goes back to the dark days of not so long ago, my armchair may get a little more wear than it used to! Long live STFC.
Davidsyrett
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9:39am Tue 19 Feb 13
Anyway, lets move on, 3 points tonight please!!
MarksDad
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9:43am Tue 19 Feb 13
Exactly how I feel at the moment.
Still can't believe the negs who will try to find any reason to despise Pdc. proving once again we are a small town club whose history is mainly Division 3 (in old money) with some very small minded so called supporters.
eddyxx
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9:47am Tue 19 Feb 13
Davidsyrett wrote:I suggest he wanted out and wanted an excuse so he could walk and the club gave him one, ironic that they called his bluff, good players were alienated and even got rid of because of pdc and his attitude towards them. now the club call his bluff and it all too ironic, stfc employ you dicanio and if i was in the position to sack you i would have. You cant call the shots, you are an employee just like the players are employees but you dont let them call the shots, you try and tell the board how they should run the club in order for you to run the club as you please ? ironic how they had the last laugh.
We now have to look forward, PDC gave us the rollercoaster that was promised but as many suggested it would one day come of the rails, Why DiCanio could not have waited for the takeover to be completed for 1 extra day seems strange, but for a man so "loyal" he chose to resign 3 days after the emotional crowd response against Hartlepool, maybe says it all.
Anyway, lets move on, 3 points tonight please!!
MarksDad
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9:50am Tue 19 Feb 13
eddyxx wrote:Obvious you understand football!
Davidsyrett wrote:I suggest he wanted out and wanted an excuse so he could walk and the club gave him one, ironic that they called his bluff, good players were alienated and even got rid of because of pdc and his attitude towards them. now the club call his bluff and it all too ironic, stfc employ you dicanio and if i was in the position to sack you i would have. You cant call the shots, you are an employee just like the players are employees but you dont let them call the shots, you try and tell the board how they should run the club in order for you to run the club as you please ? ironic how they had the last laugh.
We now have to look forward, PDC gave us the rollercoaster that was promised but as many suggested it would one day come of the rails, Why DiCanio could not have waited for the takeover to be completed for 1 extra day seems strange, but for a man so "loyal" he chose to resign 3 days after the emotional crowd response against Hartlepool, maybe says it all.
Anyway, lets move on, 3 points tonight please!!
Oi Den!
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9:50am Tue 19 Feb 13
MarksDad wrote:And there are plenty of negs who will find fault with anyone but PDC! He has been great for the club in many ways, but I don't think there's much doubt that he's led us all a merry dance - and may even be continuing it now.
Good post Tenerifetaxi.
Exactly how I feel at the moment.
Still can't believe the negs who will try to find any reason to despise Pdc. proving once again we are a small town club whose history is mainly Division 3 (in old money) with some very small minded so called supporters.
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Supporting the club comes before supporting any individual.
FORZASTFC
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9:52am Tue 19 Feb 13
Chish and Fips wrote:Have to agree, as much as i want Paolo to stay i do not think he will go back on his "TOO EAGER" statement he made yesterday? (Why couldn't he have waited another 24 hours)????????
robstfc wrote:I think it may cause more issues than it cured - perhaps it is a case of, it was great whilst it lasted but lets move on now. Lick our wounds and put up a fight for the rest of the season no matter whose in charge.
Still so gutted with last nights news. IF and it's a big if the takeover is ratified today.... Is there any chance Paolo could change his mind? Or am I bring overly optimistic ?
No one is bigger than the club, but will really miss you PDC.
We still have a great team, so let's kick on with a win tonight v Tranmere & finish this season on a massive high!
GOOD LUCK to you Paolo with or without us?
FORZA STFC
eddyxx
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9:56am Tue 19 Feb 13
MarksDad wrote:no mention on caddis but a quote of the sale of ritchie being part of the reason behind his resignation, ok caddis great player huge potential worth as much as ritchie at the begining of this season, has a fall out with pdc gets alienated and humiliated ends up at brum and will probably never play for us again and will leave for nothing, whos fault is that mr dicanio ?
eddyxx wrote:Obvious you understand football!
Davidsyrett wrote:I suggest he wanted out and wanted an excuse so he could walk and the club gave him one, ironic that they called his bluff, good players were alienated and even got rid of because of pdc and his attitude towards them. now the club call his bluff and it all too ironic, stfc employ you dicanio and if i was in the position to sack you i would have. You cant call the shots, you are an employee just like the players are employees but you dont let them call the shots, you try and tell the board how they should run the club in order for you to run the club as you please ? ironic how they had the last laugh.
We now have to look forward, PDC gave us the rollercoaster that was promised but as many suggested it would one day come of the rails, Why DiCanio could not have waited for the takeover to be completed for 1 extra day seems strange, but for a man so "loyal" he chose to resign 3 days after the emotional crowd response against Hartlepool, maybe says it all.
Anyway, lets move on, 3 points tonight please!!
oldlegtrailer
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9:56am Tue 19 Feb 13
King Red
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9:57am Tue 19 Feb 13
ChippyBOB. wrote:I hope the team do it for us the fans tonight! Managers come and go, always said i would enjoy the ride but i knew we would get 2-3 years out of him max. Our best players and managers have always moved on, like all teams outside the big guns.
I hope the team do it or him tonight.
King Red
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9:59am Tue 19 Feb 13
EastleazeRed wrote:I mentioned to Vic Morgan about him and Rockin Robin last night, would at least be entertaining! At least Robin would go cheap!
Still a twist in the tale , Paolo does a u turn and revokes his resignation ? As for the above mentioned managers , dickov no , brown no ,taylor no please god no , adkins no fcuking chance . Hello mr lets do this on the cheap .
Wilesy
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10:05am Tue 19 Feb 13
Jed (and I know he's not the new owner yet but seems to be the one who got him to stay a further week) tweeted he wasn't aware of this resignation and would be on the blower this morning.
If true, I find it absolutely amazing to believe Jed wasn't keeping tabs on this key 5pm deadline knowing the outcome of it being missed. Really? I just can't believe it. If true then that is shambolic and truly Mickey Mouse management. Surely everyone is waiting by the phone with baited breath for the FL OK. A phone call to calm the waters for a further day should have been made.
If true is the key issue - is the resignation 'mind-games'. I cannot believe that Paolo would walk away from 20 months of effort for the sake of a day waiting for Football League approval. There is no real reason why 5pm yesterday should be a make or break deadline. I think he has issued this statement to the media in an emotional, stubborn way to prove a point, and if so is bang out of order. We can't have people doing this to the club it's ridiculous.
Despite the bizarre 5pm deadline clause, from the black and white formality of the statement I presume Paolo wasn't contacted, so it would seem both parties to blame?
umpcah
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10:27am Tue 19 Feb 13
The Jockster
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10:28am Tue 19 Feb 13
Eddyxxx yep my money's on Leeds said so yesterday& tweeted by Swindonweb & Warnock has said if they want me to go I'll go - get your money on!
alcazares
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10:32am Tue 19 Feb 13
NORTH STAND
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10:41am Tue 19 Feb 13
MarksDad wrote:Sums it up for me and glad to see a few sane voices amidst the predictable ne'er do wells. Funny how many 'new' posters we have this morning. You're the only disappointment Louis - you've been a proper fan for a while and genuinely sorry to see you turn....
Good post Tenerifetaxi.
Exactly how I feel at the moment.
Still can't believe the negs who will try to find any reason to despise Pdc. proving once again we are a small town club whose history is mainly Division 3 (in old money) with some very small minded so called supporters.
i really did hope this was PDC forcing the issue and part of me still hopes it can be resolved. This guy has done an amazing job at so nearly clearing the weeds and filth that had infested the club. The sad reality is that without an equally strong appointment these parasites will gradually weasle their way back in... witness the drivel above.
I really fear for the future. This was a championship club in the making that is now in all probability heading back towards Tuesday night trips to Aldershot... One person is to blame for that and one person only!!
Goodbye and thanks PDC - a man of honour and principles. Goodbye and good riddance Andrew Black - a man of much money and very little else...
glasred
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10:45am Tue 19 Feb 13
WE will see, PDCs mind may change yet,I would not be at all supprised!
umpcah
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10:45am Tue 19 Feb 13
Wilesy
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10:48am Tue 19 Feb 13
Exmouth_red69
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10:48am Tue 19 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:We all support the club first! what a stupid comment.
MarksDad wrote:And there are plenty of negs who will find fault with anyone but PDC! He has been great for the club in many ways, but I don't think there's much doubt that he's led us all a merry dance - and may even be continuing it now.
Good post Tenerifetaxi.
Exactly how I feel at the moment.
Still can't believe the negs who will try to find any reason to despise Pdc. proving once again we are a small town club whose history is mainly Division 3 (in old money) with some very small minded so called supporters.
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Supporting the club comes before supporting any individual.
Some of your comments make you seem very pompous.
Blazing Riff
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10:52am Tue 19 Feb 13
umpcah wrote:Would that be an 'Eton mess', 'typical Swindon' mess or 'anybody's guess' mess?
In case no-one else states it today " What a mess " ! Anyone think different ?
FORZASTFC
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10:56am Tue 19 Feb 13
the owl wrote:Compare Sturrock v Di Canio????
How significant is this news?
How long can any club pander to an ego with such chronic mental instability.;
Another "hero" will emerge and excited followers will scream( insert name) Red and White Army once more.
Look on the bright side - no points deduction, no relegation and the Chairman not in jail.
I recall similar emotion when Sturrock walked and he was forgotten - rightly- within weeks.
There is only one OUTRIGHT winner here.
greenml
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10:56am Tue 19 Feb 13
jfmorty
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10:59am Tue 19 Feb 13
Swindon1984
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11:01am Tue 19 Feb 13
Redhouse Red wrote:Yep, no conspiracy here as much as people want to lay blame at someone's feet (the FL seemed to get more stick than most but not sure they're at fault really, if at all).
A few points I'd like to highlight Pdcs resignation has not been accepted The fl heakd up the deal as stfc got the paperwork wrong Incoming board got paolo to sign new (temp) contract. If they wanted him out, they had a chance last week Ritchie had to go to pay the bills, not consulting the manager was poor form Ultimatley paolo (who appears to be the most punctual italian ever!) Chose to walk. No one asked or conspired to this happening
Thanks Paolo, time to move on now though and at least we know where we are now - need the takeover finalised a.s.a.p. and a full time manager brought in, Adkins seems a good choice though whether he'd be someone we could afford I don't know.
Let's hope the players respond in the right way and get us three points tonight, sure we'd be a far more attractive prospect as potential league winners especially as a lot of the hard work's aready been done. COYR.
Davethered
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11:02am Tue 19 Feb 13
Robinonfire
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11:07am Tue 19 Feb 13
Bring back Glenn Hoddle and Bodin Assistant
Come on you REDS
Pewsham Red
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11:08am Tue 19 Feb 13
London Red wrote:Agreed LR. Just as things were looking up, football wise. Typical Swindon.
The gutting thing is everything has fallen into place for us in the league
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We could be sat top come 22:00
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What we need now is the takeover to go through and then an appointment o intent to make sure we remain there
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If we go top tonight we must be a very attractive proposition - who would not want to come in and get a title on their CV which still is a real possibility
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As said above why is Adkins so unrealistic?
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Doubt he is on millions he has always signed on for a L1 club - if he can be shown by the board they mean business he could be tempted as he could be Chanpionship next season!
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If I'm honest outside him there are not many attractive propositions - not interested in Brown or Dickov
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Taylor would have been good pre PdC but not now - we have moved on too much
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Tisdale has lost his sparkle as he seemed to stay at Exeter too long and went backwards - so wouldn't have the wow like he would have 2 years ago
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The only other real wows would be Hoddle or Curbishley and they could lift the place
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Not so wow but a good option could be Calderwood
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Can't see a player manager option at this stage of the season - had it been the summer then maybe - then a Giggs or Carragher
Personally, I would love Adkins but I also think he is better than us and should be looking top half Championshipmor even Prem.
Trouble is, all the names mentioned are journeymen - couldn't think of anything worse than ending up with Phil Brown or Peter Reid.
I'd quite like Martin Allen although he is nearly as potty as Paolo.
At least whoever comes in knows they have basis of decent squad and 3 or 4 new faces could get us up.
Steve. Brentford
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11:10am Tue 19 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:That is how i feel stfclondon,enjoy the game tonight mate,lets hope for a emphatic win,i cant collect my cash from the bookies yet as pdc`s resignation has not been excepted,i hope whoever takes over gets a fair chance from our fans but i wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
However you want to dress it up, or whoever you want to blame, the fact is that he walked on the eve of the biggest game of the season and, whether he knew it or not, the eve of the takeover. For all that I've enjoyed the roller coaster of the last 20 months, and there have been many more ups than downs, that leaves a bit of a bad taste.
Still, it's done now. I wish him all the best for the future, but I support Swindon Town FC and he is nothing to do with the club any more. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he pursued a claim for constructive dismissal. Let's hope not.
Pewsham Red
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11:15am Tue 19 Feb 13
eddyxx wrote:Very simplistic eddy.
have to say pdc has finally proved all his critics right, hes done one and thrown his toys out the pram as it was predicted. look at the situation, could go top could get promoted and the manager resigns over broken promises, what about his contract as manager of stfc and the fact he is in charge of a team that is on the brink of success this season, is he as good as he thinks he is ? we aint even over the line and he thinks its all down to him, what about the players what about the fans all he can think of is himself and his petty mind game of if its not done his way there is no other way. fair enough, hope he finds out how good he is at a bigger club and with bigger chairmen and bigger players, he would now be a marked man, its his formula and what works here wont cut it somewhere else all i can say is thanks but fk you too pdc
This all stems from the Wray/Patey/embargo fiasco from last year. His relationship with the board died then and was not helped by the stoical Patey who had little or no contact with PDC and did not help by the very few comments he did make being contradicted by Paolo.
This was the beginning of he end for me as Black had already decided to sell up and the takeover, Ritchie incident, possible administration, new board, loan signing fiasco and no contact since last week have all compounded the issue.
I don't think it is fair to single out one incident as it seems a culmination of factors have lead to this.
Black must take some of the blame as he was the catalyst for all this. I know he has ploughed in loads of money and saved and that should never be forgotten but it feels like he stopped us falling under a bus only to push us under the next one.
Deach7
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11:16am Tue 19 Feb 13
fjortofts boots
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11:16am Tue 19 Feb 13
There were some great times with Paolo, however maybe stabilty is now the order of the day.
Recently Paolo has bemoaned the lack of a goal scorer. Williams & Collins were his signings, as were A. Rooney & Martin. Lest we forget that at the moment a certain Mr Clarke has scored 16 league goals this season.
The truth is we were always going to be a stepping stone club and we have been just that.
Whatever now happens I hope it all work out for the best and I hope tonight we are top of the leaue.
Calcio Robin
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11:18am Tue 19 Feb 13
Just in case PDC does not reappear, please no deadbeats, like the new Preston or Blackpool managers, " who mentioned Dikov and Hockaday" CRAP. Let's hire a young manager who like Paolo had not long finished a successful playing career, and has fire in his belly for the next stage of his profession, and is his own man and not a yes man to the suited and booted brigade who run Football and STFC.
Lets go top tonight, and I'm sure plenty of candidates will be queing up to manage STFC.
Calcio Robin.
swindonurock
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11:41am Tue 19 Feb 13
He'd be a great choice.
stfclondon
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11:48am Tue 19 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:I hope I'll enjoy the game tonight, but it depends how the players react. It might just be the catalyst they need to spur them on.
stfclondon wrote: However you want to dress it up, or whoever you want to blame, the fact is that he walked on the eve of the biggest game of the season and, whether he knew it or not, the eve of the takeover. For all that I've enjoyed the roller coaster of the last 20 months, and there have been many more ups than downs, that leaves a bit of a bad taste. Still, it's done now. I wish him all the best for the future, but I support Swindon Town FC and he is nothing to do with the club any more. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he pursued a claim for constructive dismissal. Let's hope not.That is how i feel stfclondon,enjoy the game tonight mate,lets hope for a emphatic win,i cant collect my cash from the bookies yet as pdc`s resignation has not been excepted,i hope whoever takes over gets a fair chance from our fans but i wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
He will be a tough act to follow, that's for sure. Whoever comes in will be inheriting a decent side in a good league position, so I hope it's someone who can take advantage of that and ensure we finish the season on a high.
Marmite Soldier
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11:48am Tue 19 Feb 13
This ‘consummate professional’ has left the club 24 hours before a game, letting down his players and us Town supporters.
I have enjoyed the football I have seen since his arrival, and been very impressed with the fitness and skill the team have demonstrated. Like everyone I was pleased with last season’s title and the challenge for a second promotion that we are seeing this term.
But I’m not saying anything we don’t all know if I describe the man as a liability, an egotist and a drama queen.
It’s difficult to see how any Town manager could have received better financial support. Just what would Andy King for example have given for the money Di Canio has been allowed to spend? Paul Sturrock got us out of League Two with a fraction of the cash.
But Di Canio always has to have someone to blame. When we were under a transfer embargo he was totally unable to see that it was because he had spent too much money and we were in breach of League rules. In his eyes he was being let down by the people who had been so generous to him.
So he launched into a sound bite that said he would put his own money in. Did he actually do that? Did he expect anyone to check? Did he make a promise that he didn’t (intend) to keep?
Suppose you had an eight year old child protégé in the family, who could play the piano like a professional and was constantly told how brilliant he was. If he played a bum note, you daren’t mention it in case he slammed the lid down and refused to play the piano ever again.
That’s PDC.
The kid who throws a tantrum on Christmas Day when he is told he can’t ride his new bike because there is four foot of snow outside. It’s no one’s fault, but the child wants to blame someone and takes it out on his parents.
I’ve said before that the world is a safer place because he is employed as a football man rather than a politician. His unpredictability and power freak tendencies make him dangerous.
The timing of his departure, on a matchday when we could go top of the table, and on the day that we expect (OK, hope) the takeover to go through is designed to split people and maximise the disruption to the club. Thanks PDC!
I got fed up with the outrage he so often had to exhibit, and the hero worship that he saw as his right.
He cites broken promises. What about his broken contract?
Disappointed that we have lost a manager who was achieving good things on the pitch? Certainly.
Sorry to see the departure of a person who tested our tolerance to the limit? Nope.
Surprised that he needed to steal the stage on a big day for the club? Definitely not.
It was always ‘Me,me,me’.
I support STFC… not PDC.
Let’s get a grown up in.
alcazares
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11:56am Tue 19 Feb 13
Marmite Soldier wrote:That sums it up nicely Marmite, we were all too smitten with him to see, or we turned a blind eye to, his many flaws.
No need to keep quiet now then. No possible consequences of upsetting ‘top manager’ Di Canio.
This ‘consummate professional’ has left the club 24 hours before a game, letting down his players and us Town supporters.
I have enjoyed the football I have seen since his arrival, and been very impressed with the fitness and skill the team have demonstrated. Like everyone I was pleased with last season’s title and the challenge for a second promotion that we are seeing this term.
But I’m not saying anything we don’t all know if I describe the man as a liability, an egotist and a drama queen.
It’s difficult to see how any Town manager could have received better financial support. Just what would Andy King for example have given for the money Di Canio has been allowed to spend? Paul Sturrock got us out of League Two with a fraction of the cash.
But Di Canio always has to have someone to blame. When we were under a transfer embargo he was totally unable to see that it was because he had spent too much money and we were in breach of League rules. In his eyes he was being let down by the people who had been so generous to him.
So he launched into a sound bite that said he would put his own money in. Did he actually do that? Did he expect anyone to check? Did he make a promise that he didn’t (intend) to keep?
Suppose you had an eight year old child protégé in the family, who could play the piano like a professional and was constantly told how brilliant he was. If he played a bum note, you daren’t mention it in case he slammed the lid down and refused to play the piano ever again.
That’s PDC.
The kid who throws a tantrum on Christmas Day when he is told he can’t ride his new bike because there is four foot of snow outside. It’s no one’s fault, but the child wants to blame someone and takes it out on his parents.
I’ve said before that the world is a safer place because he is employed as a football man rather than a politician. His unpredictability and power freak tendencies make him dangerous.
The timing of his departure, on a matchday when we could go top of the table, and on the day that we expect (OK, hope) the takeover to go through is designed to split people and maximise the disruption to the club. Thanks PDC!
I got fed up with the outrage he so often had to exhibit, and the hero worship that he saw as his right.
He cites broken promises. What about his broken contract?
Disappointed that we have lost a manager who was achieving good things on the pitch? Certainly.
Sorry to see the departure of a person who tested our tolerance to the limit? Nope.
Surprised that he needed to steal the stage on a big day for the club? Definitely not.
It was always ‘Me,me,me’.
I support STFC… not PDC.
Let’s get a grown up in.
Success but at a price........and the road has been littered with too many "failed" players.
Med Red
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11:57am Tue 19 Feb 13
spectacles testicals wallet watch
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12:04pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Jed apparently tweeted that Newell was a no goer so who does he have in mind, does he pull the strings or do the money men of the new consortium make the decisions?
Tonight we can go top but why when other teams change managers they seem to have a change of fortunes, Tranmere will be buzzing about this. Did he really have to leave on the eve of a massive game?
Also it was mentioned last night he didnt attend any training sessions last week, if that is the case he knew then he was going whether the FL gave the green light or not by his deadline.
Just dont replace him with some ballon like Malpas or Hart and we MIGHT just hold our own but we must tie down deals for these out of contract players before they vanish for free.
louiscassius
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12:05pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Thats the end of that then...see ya play off's.....
Hahaha, jesus, i cant wait for tonights news....
Breaking News:
Swindon Town go into Administration after a drawn out take over bid from a local consortium fails to materialise!!
F*ckin hate this game sometimes......
Its all p1ssing cloak and dagger stuff, all the bleedin time!!
Year after year nothing changes....because there's to much money flying about and everyones trying to sc*ew everyone else over....and make a quick buck.....
!!!!!!!
louiscassius
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12:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13
GUVS MASTER
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12:08pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford
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12:10pm Tue 19 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:Well i would like to think they will want to show that they have played a part in our position in the league not just pdc,no better time for them to make a big statement, in my eyes i have seen the players receive very little appreciation for last/this seasons football we(myself included) have given 99% of that to Paolo.Here`s hoping they continue the good work on the pitch and let others worry about the off the pitch fiasco.
Steve. Brentford wrote:I hope I'll enjoy the game tonight, but it depends how the players react. It might just be the catalyst they need to spur them on.
stfclondon wrote: However you want to dress it up, or whoever you want to blame, the fact is that he walked on the eve of the biggest game of the season and, whether he knew it or not, the eve of the takeover. For all that I've enjoyed the roller coaster of the last 20 months, and there have been many more ups than downs, that leaves a bit of a bad taste. Still, it's done now. I wish him all the best for the future, but I support Swindon Town FC and he is nothing to do with the club any more. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he pursued a claim for constructive dismissal. Let's hope not.That is how i feel stfclondon,enjoy the game tonight mate,lets hope for a emphatic win,i cant collect my cash from the bookies yet as pdc`s resignation has not been excepted,i hope whoever takes over gets a fair chance from our fans but i wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
He will be a tough act to follow, that's for sure. Whoever comes in will be inheriting a decent side in a good league position, so I hope it's someone who can take advantage of that and ensure we finish the season on a high.
themoonraker
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12:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Pewsham Red wrote:sorry Pewsham Red, but I do not agree.
eddyxx wrote:Very simplistic eddy.
have to say pdc has finally proved all his critics right, hes done one and thrown his toys out the pram as it was predicted. look at the situation, could go top could get promoted and the manager resigns over broken promises, what about his contract as manager of stfc and the fact he is in charge of a team that is on the brink of success this season, is he as good as he thinks he is ? we aint even over the line and he thinks its all down to him, what about the players what about the fans all he can think of is himself and his petty mind game of if its not done his way there is no other way. fair enough, hope he finds out how good he is at a bigger club and with bigger chairmen and bigger players, he would now be a marked man, its his formula and what works here wont cut it somewhere else all i can say is thanks but fk you too pdc
This all stems from the Wray/Patey/embargo fiasco from last year. His relationship with the board died then and was not helped by the stoical Patey who had little or no contact with PDC and did not help by the very few comments he did make being contradicted by Paolo.
This was the beginning of he end for me as Black had already decided to sell up and the takeover, Ritchie incident, possible administration, new board, loan signing fiasco and no contact since last week have all compounded the issue.
I don't think it is fair to single out one incident as it seems a culmination of factors have lead to this.
Black must take some of the blame as he was the catalyst for all this. I know he has ploughed in loads of money and saved and that should never be forgotten but it feels like he stopped us falling under a bus only to push us under the next one.
I believe that PDC has walked because he could not have everything his own way.
I agree that he should have had more communication from the board, but I get the impression that he wouldn't have listened anyway unless their reasoning concurred with his beliefs.
And your rationale for saying that AB was the catalyst is also deeply flawed, rather like blaming a 'cancer relieving drug' for the ultimate death of a person after extending their good quality of life.....perhaps Black, Fitton et al should haver let the club die without prolonging it's life and trying to revive it?
I feel for our new owners because some of us will (and already are) blaming them for failure regardless of what the future holds.
Pewsham Red
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12:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13
alcazares wrote:A bit one sided. We all knew we'd have to take the rough with the smooth and no doubt there is plenty of rough, but a lot more smooth, I would suggest.
Marmite Soldier wrote:That sums it up nicely Marmite, we were all too smitten with him to see, or we turned a blind eye to, his many flaws.
No need to keep quiet now then. No possible consequences of upsetting ‘top manager’ Di Canio.
This ‘consummate professional’ has left the club 24 hours before a game, letting down his players and us Town supporters.
I have enjoyed the football I have seen since his arrival, and been very impressed with the fitness and skill the team have demonstrated. Like everyone I was pleased with last season’s title and the challenge for a second promotion that we are seeing this term.
But I’m not saying anything we don’t all know if I describe the man as a liability, an egotist and a drama queen.
It’s difficult to see how any Town manager could have received better financial support. Just what would Andy King for example have given for the money Di Canio has been allowed to spend? Paul Sturrock got us out of League Two with a fraction of the cash.
But Di Canio always has to have someone to blame. When we were under a transfer embargo he was totally unable to see that it was because he had spent too much money and we were in breach of League rules. In his eyes he was being let down by the people who had been so generous to him.
So he launched into a sound bite that said he would put his own money in. Did he actually do that? Did he expect anyone to check? Did he make a promise that he didn’t (intend) to keep?
Suppose you had an eight year old child protégé in the family, who could play the piano like a professional and was constantly told how brilliant he was. If he played a bum note, you daren’t mention it in case he slammed the lid down and refused to play the piano ever again.
That’s PDC.
The kid who throws a tantrum on Christmas Day when he is told he can’t ride his new bike because there is four foot of snow outside. It’s no one’s fault, but the child wants to blame someone and takes it out on his parents.
I’ve said before that the world is a safer place because he is employed as a football man rather than a politician. His unpredictability and power freak tendencies make him dangerous.
The timing of his departure, on a matchday when we could go top of the table, and on the day that we expect (OK, hope) the takeover to go through is designed to split people and maximise the disruption to the club. Thanks PDC!
I got fed up with the outrage he so often had to exhibit, and the hero worship that he saw as his right.
He cites broken promises. What about his broken contract?
Disappointed that we have lost a manager who was achieving good things on the pitch? Certainly.
Sorry to see the departure of a person who tested our tolerance to the limit? Nope.
Surprised that he needed to steal the stage on a big day for the club? Definitely not.
It was always ‘Me,me,me’.
I support STFC… not PDC.
Let’s get a grown up in.
Success but at a price........and the road has been littered with too many "failed" players.
Can't take timing of the resignation in isolation as whenever he resigned it would be close to an important game and he did actually resign last week.
I am guessing the Wray sacking, Black taking his ball away, the transfer embargo, Patey's lack of contact and diplomacy, withdrawal of financial support, the speed and urgency of the club sale, selling Ritchie behind his back, delays in FL rubber stamp, fiasco with potential loan signings and lack of contact from new board despite known deadline may also have contributed.
Hardly a snap decision and the fact that he continued to get the players to perform, given the threadbare squad, over the last month or so is a testament to his professionalism, rather than the opposite.
We all have a view on his personality and I doubt there would be many that wouldn't say he was all the things described in the previous post and more.
That said, I still think that his period in charge will be looked at with fondness and I, for one, am sad to see him go.
alcazares
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12:25pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Some were barely given a chance.
Pewsham Red
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12:28pm Tue 19 Feb 13
themoonraker wrote:Fair enough Moonraker, we all take a different view, but I stand by my comments and I don't particularly agree with your analogy regarding Black.
Pewsham Red wrote:sorry Pewsham Red, but I do not agree.
eddyxx wrote:Very simplistic eddy.
have to say pdc has finally proved all his critics right, hes done one and thrown his toys out the pram as it was predicted. look at the situation, could go top could get promoted and the manager resigns over broken promises, what about his contract as manager of stfc and the fact he is in charge of a team that is on the brink of success this season, is he as good as he thinks he is ? we aint even over the line and he thinks its all down to him, what about the players what about the fans all he can think of is himself and his petty mind game of if its not done his way there is no other way. fair enough, hope he finds out how good he is at a bigger club and with bigger chairmen and bigger players, he would now be a marked man, its his formula and what works here wont cut it somewhere else all i can say is thanks but fk you too pdc
This all stems from the Wray/Patey/embargo fiasco from last year. His relationship with the board died then and was not helped by the stoical Patey who had little or no contact with PDC and did not help by the very few comments he did make being contradicted by Paolo.
This was the beginning of he end for me as Black had already decided to sell up and the takeover, Ritchie incident, possible administration, new board, loan signing fiasco and no contact since last week have all compounded the issue.
I don't think it is fair to single out one incident as it seems a culmination of factors have lead to this.
Black must take some of the blame as he was the catalyst for all this. I know he has ploughed in loads of money and saved and that should never be forgotten but it feels like he stopped us falling under a bus only to push us under the next one.
I believe that PDC has walked because he could not have everything his own way.
I agree that he should have had more communication from the board, but I get the impression that he wouldn't have listened anyway unless their reasoning concurred with his beliefs.
And your rationale for saying that AB was the catalyst is also deeply flawed, rather like blaming a 'cancer relieving drug' for the ultimate death of a person after extending their good quality of life.....perhaps Black, Fitton et al should haver let the club die without prolonging it's life and trying to revive it?
I feel for our new owners because some of us will (and already are) blaming them for failure regardless of what the future holds.
Whatever we think of Black for saving the club, for which we are all forever grateful, I think the timing and speed of his departure have been a contributory factor.
I agree that we cannot blame the new board as they have been a bit unwitting in all this and have tried to push the takeover through at double quick time, but di Canio has said that he has not heard from them since last week either.
stanharlands6shirt
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1:03pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Well for me it would be;
First choice; DiCANIO reinstated. Probably not realistic now, but it would be my choice, even if it was only to the end of the season.
Second choice; Nigel Adkins; does not have the dark charisma of DiCanio, but is a superb coach AND a good manager.
Yes it's a drop down from Premiership manager, but it was only a couple of season's ago that he was in league one with the Saint's... So why not start again with a good squad who are already challenging ?
Third choice; probably unrealistic, but Roberto DiMateo. Keeps the Italian theme going on at Town and maybe he would look to try to keep the backroom staff, who I believe have been every bit as important as the manager and players in our recent success and rebirth.
Are there any managers that I would want to steer well clear of;
ABSOLUTELY; To name a few;
Mike Newell.
Paul Dickov,
Dave Hockaday,
Martin Allen,
Paul Tisdale.
In short I want another high profile manager that will lead and inspire both fans and our players; a manager of substance and potential. We all know we are a small club, BUT WE ARE A BIG SMALL CLUB, AND WE HAVE HISTORY AND POTENTIAL.
Finally if the appointment were to be considered as a short term, to the end of the season appointment, would Glenn Hoddle return for the run in ? Should he be considered ?
If he did I would be happy, and yes we would have another leader, although this time around it would only be from the dugout, rather than on the pitch.
Just my own thoughts from a quite place, where my world, like others, has been on TILT for the last few weeks, and especially since yesterdays announcement where we are all now wondering where the way forward will lead us.
louiscassius
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1:28pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Oi Den!
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1:40pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Exmouth_red69 wrote:Thanks. Which ones? I'll try to do better.
Oi Den! wrote:We all support the club first! what a stupid comment.
MarksDad wrote:And there are plenty of negs who will find fault with anyone but PDC! He has been great for the club in many ways, but I don't think there's much doubt that he's led us all a merry dance - and may even be continuing it now.
Good post Tenerifetaxi.
Exactly how I feel at the moment.
Still can't believe the negs who will try to find any reason to despise Pdc. proving once again we are a small town club whose history is mainly Division 3 (in old money) with some very small minded so called supporters.
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Supporting the club comes before supporting any individual.
Some of your comments make you seem very pompous.
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Some people said the club died last night. Some others said they will never support the club again after last night. That sounds like supporting an individual before the club.
Oi Den!
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1:46pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Steve, that's an excellent point. By pure coincidence there was a "where are they now" feature in a paper last week, on the Town team promoted to the top flight under Hoddle. There was an interview with Fraser Digby, who said how flat all the players felt on the open top bus tour of the town because all they could see were "Don't go Glenn" posters and they felt they were not getting any recognition for their achievements.
stfclondon wrote:Well i would like to think they will want to show that they have played a part in our position in the league not just pdc,no better time for them to make a big statement, in my eyes i have seen the players receive very little appreciation for last/this seasons football we(myself included) have given 99% of that to Paolo.Here`s hoping they continue the good work on the pitch and let others worry about the off the pitch fiasco.
Steve. Brentford wrote:I hope I'll enjoy the game tonight, but it depends how the players react. It might just be the catalyst they need to spur them on.
stfclondon wrote: However you want to dress it up, or whoever you want to blame, the fact is that he walked on the eve of the biggest game of the season and, whether he knew it or not, the eve of the takeover. For all that I've enjoyed the roller coaster of the last 20 months, and there have been many more ups than downs, that leaves a bit of a bad taste. Still, it's done now. I wish him all the best for the future, but I support Swindon Town FC and he is nothing to do with the club any more. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he pursued a claim for constructive dismissal. Let's hope not.That is how i feel stfclondon,enjoy the game tonight mate,lets hope for a emphatic win,i cant collect my cash from the bookies yet as pdc`s resignation has not been excepted,i hope whoever takes over gets a fair chance from our fans but i wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
He will be a tough act to follow, that's for sure. Whoever comes in will be inheriting a decent side in a good league position, so I hope it's someone who can take advantage of that and ensure we finish the season on a high.
ST1066
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1:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13
The takeover will by the looks of it leave the club with only shareholder debt (nothing wrong with that) so now there is an opportunity to stabilise and develop a situation where the club budgets to its revenue and end the boom/bust type cycle.
The key factor in this will be the next manager. He has to be able to see the potential in unknowns (including our own youthteam players) and have the coaching ability to bring that potential through. Without extremely rich owners or large crowds we all know its the only way to make things sustainable financially and have some hope of success. A latter day Dario Grady would be just the ticket.In our own way we need to be a larger version of Crewe (hopefully a division up) for the next 4 seasons or so and then maybe develop from there.
Meanwhile the overspend has left us with a very capable squad of players- especially if Storey could step up to the mark and so promotion is still very much up for grabs which would be a big added bonus in helping the finances.
Tonight a draw would be a very good result but not a disaster in the circumstances if we lose.After tonight I think we could do a lot worse than let Bodin takeover whilst time is taken to search out the next manager and not rush into a bad choice.
doomster
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2:14pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Rogersforengland
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2:30pm Tue 19 Feb 13
BillyLucas4me
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3:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Did he employ them or did the Club employ them?
One is in charge tonight, I would have preferred Zippy, he would be Town first and no other allegences.
Moonraker55
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3:34pm Tue 19 Feb 13
What now saddens me most is his fellow Italian staff will probably leave too, and our defence so strong last season and this, will begin to wilt. I see a definite connection between the Italian coaches and the Town's defence, and it is my sincere hope the new board does all it can to keep the coaches, for they are the unseen heroes and just as important to Town's success as Di Canio.
As I live in Southampton unsurprisingly Adkins is my preferred choice for new manager. Like Di Canio he was shafted by poor directorship but he has the pedigree and the ability to motovate players and right now that is what we need for the team.
Nigel, Denver CO
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3:41pm Tue 19 Feb 13
SimonPrice351
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3:49pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Ummm... cannot see this happening.
What about one of Keith Curle, Paul Jewell, Mark Robson or Gareth Southgate for manager? Alan Shearer too would be a decent shout.
bradley red 1
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3:55pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Pewsham Red
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4:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13
SimonPrice351 wrote:Agree with Adkins, but not particularly happy with the other options. Sadly, I fear that this will be the calibre that we can expect.
So Adkins would drop back to League 1 to a club with little money and a takeover scenario fresh from the pages of Monty Python?
Ummm... cannot see this happening.
What about one of Keith Curle, Paul Jewell, Mark Robson or Gareth Southgate for manager? Alan Shearer too would be a decent shout.
EastleazeRed
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4:41pm Tue 19 Feb 13
umpcah
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4:47pm Tue 19 Feb 13
doomster wrote:What a row ! I now fear the worst.
The silence is deafening.
alchafreds
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5:08pm Tue 19 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:whats the point then
As to the new manager, well I want us to take a chance (again) on a player manager in his first job.
Been saying for more than a week now that we should try and get Jamie Carragher - now.
If we have to wait until summer, then please do not get an 'experienced, safe pair of hands' on a long contract. 'Safe pair of hands' equates to safe mid-table position to me. Might as well let Bodin manage it until May and then shake it up from there.
Paolo was always going to be a difficult act to follow, but there are other acts out there.
With the disappointing attendances, takeover/loss of wealthy backers, a decaying old ground with little movement on its redevelopment, and now the loss of its high-profile manager, I don't think the club is in any way ready for the Championship right now.
alchafreds
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5:21pm Tue 19 Feb 13
eddyxx wrote:caddis thats who, A captain with a crap attitude
MarksDad wrote:no mention on caddis but a quote of the sale of ritchie being part of the reason behind his resignation, ok caddis great player huge potential worth as much as ritchie at the begining of this season, has a fall out with pdc gets alienated and humiliated ends up at brum and will probably never play for us again and will leave for nothing, whos fault is that mr dicanio ?
eddyxx wrote:Obvious you understand football!
Davidsyrett wrote:I suggest he wanted out and wanted an excuse so he could walk and the club gave him one, ironic that they called his bluff, good players were alienated and even got rid of because of pdc and his attitude towards them. now the club call his bluff and it all too ironic, stfc employ you dicanio and if i was in the position to sack you i would have. You cant call the shots, you are an employee just like the players are employees but you dont let them call the shots, you try and tell the board how they should run the club in order for you to run the club as you please ? ironic how they had the last laugh.
We now have to look forward, PDC gave us the rollercoaster that was promised but as many suggested it would one day come of the rails, Why DiCanio could not have waited for the takeover to be completed for 1 extra day seems strange, but for a man so "loyal" he chose to resign 3 days after the emotional crowd response against Hartlepool, maybe says it all.
Anyway, lets move on, 3 points tonight please!!
welsh red
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5:47pm Tue 19 Feb 13
swwindon61uk
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5:49pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:Was going to post the same thing,we keep our fitness etc here.
Piccareta is 5/2 favourite. I don't see why he shouldn't be given a shot at it. Who knows? It could even give us a boost and start an exciting new chapter. He would be less of a gamble than a complete novice manager. But would he be able/want to break away from PDC?
Only down side is that the players seemed to take the P... when he was left in charge when PDC was over in Italy,but maybe he can be stronger when in charge.
I would suspect he would also he would be looking forward to not getting earache each game but dishing it out...LOL
swwindon61uk
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5:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13
pehf1rules
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6:29pm Tue 19 Feb 13
the wizard
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7:44pm Tue 19 Feb 13
welsh red wrote:Did you read my earlier post on the other thread,
Does anyone know the situation at Banbury United ? Do they own the ground and is it capable of re-development ? If so, are we looking at a possible Wimbledon FC to MK Dons situation: with Swindon 'relocating' to Banbury. Not sure how it would happen but presumably the precedent has been set.
the wizard says...
5:39pm Tue 19 Feb 13
GOV, if you are in the know as much as you reckon, go on then, say it, Franchise, STFC to become Banbury Utd and the ground gollocks at SN1 will be sorted with the club gone. You know so much confirm or deny, a one word answer will suffice instead of the usual War and Peace, time to shift off the wall and say it.
My post was prompted by a good source. I'm not sure about their ground but I do think they own it, Duke of Banbury may be able to confirm, if he sees the post he may have the answer, and it is that which may be the sticking point at the FL, ratification that that can happen again.
King Red
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8:00pm Tue 19 Feb 13
alchafreds wrote:Thompson will be better than Caddis and isn't far off now, just lacks experience at times. But at least he doesn't thinks he's bigger than the club
eddyxx wrote:caddis thats who, A captain with a crap attitude
MarksDad wrote:no mention on caddis but a quote of the sale of ritchie being part of the reason behind his resignation, ok caddis great player huge potential worth as much as ritchie at the begining of this season, has a fall out with pdc gets alienated and humiliated ends up at brum and will probably never play for us again and will leave for nothing, whos fault is that mr dicanio ?
eddyxx wrote:Obvious you understand football!
Davidsyrett wrote:I suggest he wanted out and wanted an excuse so he could walk and the club gave him one, ironic that they called his bluff, good players were alienated and even got rid of because of pdc and his attitude towards them. now the club call his bluff and it all too ironic, stfc employ you dicanio and if i was in the position to sack you i would have. You cant call the shots, you are an employee just like the players are employees but you dont let them call the shots, you try and tell the board how they should run the club in order for you to run the club as you please ? ironic how they had the last laugh.
We now have to look forward, PDC gave us the rollercoaster that was promised but as many suggested it would one day come of the rails, Why DiCanio could not have waited for the takeover to be completed for 1 extra day seems strange, but for a man so "loyal" he chose to resign 3 days after the emotional crowd response against Hartlepool, maybe says it all.
Anyway, lets move on, 3 points tonight please!!
Robin of Andover
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9:50pm Tue 19 Feb 13

robstfc says...
6:06am Tue 19 Feb 13