"No approach from Swindon," says Hockaday (From Swindon Advertiser)
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SWINDON TOWN: "No approach from Swindon," says Hockaday
1:30pm Wednesday 20th February 2013 in Sport
Dave Hockaday
FOREST Green manager Dave Hockaday has said no approach has been made by Swindon Town for his services.
Hockaday, who played more than 300 times for the Robins in the 1980s, has been installed as one of the favourites for the top job at the County Ground by bookmakers following the resignation of Paolo Di Canio.
However, it is understood that Town will not approach managers until Football League approval of the sale of the club is received, and Hockaday told BBC Radio Gloucestershire that he had not had contact from Swindon.
"I haven't been approached. I'm employed by Forest Green Rovers and I love my job," he said.
"I've got the best chairman in the world so I'm not going to go looking for another job.
"I've got a great group of lads here and we're building something special.
"I'm Forest Green through and through. If ever my chairman wants me to leave then that's a different matter but until such time I'm happy here."
Comments(84)
Always red
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1:41pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Sorry Dave you might be a nice bloke but don't call us.
EastleazeRed
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1:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
stanharlands6shirt
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1:45pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Now please contact and get the same response from;
Newell,
Tisdale,
Buckle,
and all the rest of the totally uninspiring names that have been thrown in the hat.
That done, call ADKINS and tell him get over here quick...we have got just the challenge for him and a great set of supporters ready to follow.
RamsburyRed
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1:47pm Wed 20 Feb 13
EastleazeRed wrote:Like us in L2 then?
Thank god ! I know a couple of forest green rovers fans who said the majority of fans want him out , clueless was one of the words they used. The only reason their going well is the amount of money they have compared to the rest of the clubs in the league.
jam1
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1:48pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Calcio Robin
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1:50pm Wed 20 Feb 13
I wonder if Alun Rossiter could do both jobs, has he got his FA badges?, What a man ans motivator.
madterrier
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1:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13
HOOKEY
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2:01pm Wed 20 Feb 13
peatmoor pirate
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2:03pm Wed 20 Feb 13
RamsburyRed wrote:sadly true and at least partly why we are in this state to start with
EastleazeRed wrote:Like us in L2 then?
Thank god ! I know a couple of forest green rovers fans who said the majority of fans want him out , clueless was one of the words they used. The only reason their going well is the amount of money they have compared to the rest of the clubs in the league.
stanharlands6shirt
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2:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13
DO WE HAVE A NEW INCOMING BOARD THAT WILL FOLLOW THE CLUBS FANS VOICES.
ADKINS WOULD CERTAINLY APPEAR TO BE THE ONE TO SETTLE EVERYONE DOWN AND REUNITE ALL CONCERNED, COUPLED WITH THE COACHING AND MANAGERIAL ABILITY TO CONTINUE OUR UPWARD MOBILITY.
Swindon1984
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2:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:Why are you naming players who are still playing as potential managers? Heard someone earlier putting Darren Ward's name in contention as player manager - you can't just decide you want to be a manager and turn up at the club the next day!
That God!!!! Hope all the other useless nominees and "has beens" will come out and say the same. Scholes , Carragher, etc young and energetic or Adkins "been there and done it" and was doing a good job at Southamton. I wonder if Alun Rossiter could do both jobs, has he got his FA badges?, What a man ans motivator.
Adkins, good shout, and many would agree myself included. Carragher and Scholes? You've lost me there.
Good news no Hockaday anyway, although I've heard some names mentioned which are just as bad.
Doctor red
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2:19pm Wed 20 Feb 13
stanharlands6shirt wrote:EE AYE AD"IK"INS
THE ONE NAME THAT FEW, IF ANY, SEEM TO OBJECT TOO, AND MOST SEEM TO WANT NOW THAT PAOLO HAS GONE, IS NIGEL ADKINS..
DO WE HAVE A NEW INCOMING BOARD THAT WILL FOLLOW THE CLUBS FANS VOICES.
ADKINS WOULD CERTAINLY APPEAR TO BE THE ONE TO SETTLE EVERYONE DOWN AND REUNITE ALL CONCERNED, COUPLED WITH THE COACHING AND MANAGERIAL ABILITY TO CONTINUE OUR UPWARD MOBILITY.
Your the one we want!
God bless Paolo a true legend!
The Doc
no probs
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2:19pm Wed 20 Feb 13
no that we have not even got a physio at the club.
jam1
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2:28pm Wed 20 Feb 13
swindonjason
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2:29pm Wed 20 Feb 13
I was there and there was no tactics being forwarded from the bench (all were sat down). The way the players acknowledged the fans tells me there is togetherness between us and them
Now, the way forward in the interim:
Manager: Paul Bodin
Assistant Manager: Alan McGloughlin
Goalkeeper Coach: Fraser Digby
Physio: Either recall Kate Cady or Jamie Pitman (he was physio at Hereford.
I state this is in the interim arrangement as I don't think the club will be able to appoint anybody until the takeover has the FL approval (same as getting new players)
stanharlands6shirt
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2:40pm Wed 20 Feb 13
swindonjason wrote:If all mentioned above agreed in the immediate short term to cover those roles we as supporters would I am sure feel very happy.
This is a total mess behind the scenes, and the players deserve massive credit for their performance last night.
I was there and there was no tactics being forwarded from the bench (all were sat down). The way the players acknowledged the fans tells me there is togetherness between us and them
Now, the way forward in the interim:
Manager: Paul Bodin
Assistant Manager: Alan McGloughlin
Goalkeeper Coach: Fraser Digby
Physio: Either recall Kate Cady or Jamie Pitman (he was physio at Hereford.
I state this is in the interim arrangement as I don't think the club will be able to appoint anybody until the takeover has the FL approval (same as getting new players)
ALL PEOPLE WE STILL TRUST...
It would also be good to see Kate back and given a vote of confidence. By all accounts a good and respected physio that sadly did not fit with Paolo's plans.
arkells
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2:56pm Wed 20 Feb 13
smirg kcab
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3:09pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Can't stand people who advertise themselves.
I'm sure no one from the club would know his number.
Forest green needs you (phil king next)?
Onwards and upwards
How long do it take to write a cheque out for the un named loan player?
Meltdown
Meltdown
Meltdown
Super Mario TV
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3:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
smirg kcab
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3:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:Yes he has got the badge. It was on his woolly hat when he was on tv for the playoffs.
That God!!!! Hope all the other useless nominees and "has beens" will come out and say the same. Scholes , Carragher, etc young and energetic or Adkins "been there and done it" and was doing a good job at Southamton. I wonder if Alun Rossiter could do both jobs, has he got his FA badges?, What a man ans motivator.
That means he's more qualified than hockaday
Onwards and upwards
hertz
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3:16pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Robinonfire
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3:21pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Come on you REDS
bradley red 1
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3:23pm Wed 20 Feb 13
kandiman
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3:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Can we get written confirmation that neither Sir Alf Ramsey nor Jose Mourinho have applied too please?
Steve. Brentford
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3:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13
kandiman
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3:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:It's not about lack of respect. 300 games for the club and a marvelous servant AS A PLAYER, for sure. As a manager, he's not proved much cop at Forest Green. In fact, consensus seems to be that if they didn't have such a big budget by comparison to the other conference sides, they'd be battling relegation.
300 plus games for us and the man still cant get anything respectful said about him by our fans,and if Mourinho thinks he can just stroll into Swindon as our manager he can think again,i will not go to the CG until Mourinho has left.
Realistically, there are only five candidates on the bookies' list that are acceptable: Adkins, Hoddle, Bodin, Curbishley and Warnock.
Interesting to note, though, that PDC is 9/1 to return to the club at Paddy's, and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is at evens...
smirg kcab
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3:37pm Wed 20 Feb 13
To be fodders trainer.
I told him Roberts scored and we won 3-1.
Ronnie Moore sent the number 23 bagayogo to catch him, but fon just had a text that he has just got to the prenton park car park.
Onwards and upwards
God fon and baggy were awful
Since 1950
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3:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
TheDukeOfBanbury
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3:47pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Some of those other names do not inspire me at all.
I am more concerned on this New Board to be honest. Extremely worried is an understatement.
Would love to be impressed.
Steve. Brentford
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3:48pm Wed 20 Feb 13
kandiman wrote:No thanks to Hoddle,i would rather have a marvelous servant (as a player)like Hockaday than someone that left us in the brown gear after we got promoted,he has never achieved much success since he was a player,nice football though!
Steve. Brentford wrote:It's not about lack of respect. 300 games for the club and a marvelous servant AS A PLAYER, for sure. As a manager, he's not proved much cop at Forest Green. In fact, consensus seems to be that if they didn't have such a big budget by comparison to the other conference sides, they'd be battling relegation.
300 plus games for us and the man still cant get anything respectful said about him by our fans,and if Mourinho thinks he can just stroll into Swindon as our manager he can think again,i will not go to the CG until Mourinho has left.
Realistically, there are only five candidates on the bookies' list that are acceptable: Adkins, Hoddle, Bodin, Curbishley and Warnock.
Interesting to note, though, that PDC is 9/1 to return to the club at Paddy's, and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is at evens...
Adkins would make me happy because going by the posts on here he would get the supporters full backing.
smirg kcab
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4:01pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Do yourself a favour and support the huge majority of the fans then we can all move together to the championship
Thanks
Another view
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4:07pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Graham8181
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4:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Graham8181
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4:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Graham8181
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4:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Graham8181
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4:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford
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4:16pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Graham8181 wrote:I see the stutter has not gone away Graham!
Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins
Scribblemilk
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4:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
We need someone who wants the team to play at the high tempo Paolo demanded, and the beautiful football that has been so successful.
Therefore no kick and rush merchants whoever they are. Trying to change the way we play this late in the season will most probably result in confused players and poor results.
I wish I had the answer but my feeling is we shouldn't appointment a permanent post until the end of the season, we should look for experience in the higher leagues but who maybe aren't flavour of the month now.
I would definitely approach Owen Coyle and Steve Coppell, im not sure who else. Ideally come the summer we would have our pick of a better pool of manager if we are promoted. I think UIwe Rosler has done a good job at Brentford this year, but I doubt we would get him unless we got promoted and they didn't.
Fernham Red
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4:23pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Rebel_phish
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4:35pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Adkins though aint a bad shout.
jillyh
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4:38pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Scribblemilk wrote:Have to agree as my heart sunk following the after match interview. We mustn't rock this boat of tremendous players we have. My fears are we will still end up in Administration or get Banbury Town Manager.
IMHO we need consistency, however i don't think Paul Bodin or any combination of former players should be relied upon as 14 games is a large chunk of the season. All can be won and lost in that period.
We need someone who wants the team to play at the high tempo Paolo demanded, and the beautiful football that has been so successful.
Therefore no kick and rush merchants whoever they are. Trying to change the way we play this late in the season will most probably result in confused players and poor results.
I wish I had the answer but my feeling is we shouldn't appointment a permanent post until the end of the season, we should look for experience in the higher leagues but who maybe aren't flavour of the month now.
I would definitely approach Owen Coyle and Steve Coppell, im not sure who else. Ideally come the summer we would have our pick of a better pool of manager if we are promoted. I think UIwe Rosler has done a good job at Brentford this year, but I doubt we would get him unless we got promoted and they didn't.
Sorry but when all is said and done, Andrew Black saved us and then spat us out.
old town robin
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4:43pm Wed 20 Feb 13
I know the loan window closes in March but is it the1st? we are fast running out of time to get some much needed strength in and the second question is after losing 2 very good loanees and the opportunity for another 3, where would any new manager find additional quality to help out our over stretched squad
smirg kcab
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4:44pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Di canio 10/1
Adkins 20/1
Sky bet
Where did jfh come from?
stanharlands6shirt
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4:49pm Wed 20 Feb 13
APPEARS A DECENT MAN ON THE FACE OF IT, STANDING UP TO BUNGS ETC WHILST AT LUTON?
HOWEVER HE TOOK OVER HARTLEPOOL WHO WERE TOP OF DIVISION THREE (LEAGUE ONE) AND CLEAR BY SIXTEEN POINTS.. THEY WENT ON A TERRIBLE RUN, WERE CAUGHT AND OVERTAKEN, ALTHOUGH THEY DID MANAGE TO FINISH RUNNERS UP.
WE DO NOT HAVE SIXTEEN POINTS TO THROW AWAY IN AN EXPERIMENT FINDING OUT IF A MANAGER MAY BE ABLE TO CUT IT !!!!!
IT HAS TO BE ADKINS...HE IS CAPABLE OF STEADYING THE SHIP, KEEP US PLAYING FOOTBALL, UNITE THE WHOLE CLUB AND PROBABLY IMPROVE US AGAIN..
Lazaat
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4:52pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Is that you Lovesey
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4:56pm Wed 20 Feb 13
But lets get real over Adkins, no way hosay, he wont come here....
old town robin
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4:56pm Wed 20 Feb 13
smirg kcab wrote:Jimmy H is an Interesting prospect, bet you he would give Collins, Rooney and Williams some tips how to up their percentages.
Jimmy floyd hasslebaink now 7/4 fav
Di canio 10/1
Adkins 20/1
Sky bet
Where did jfh come from?
If he was considered I think he would need a very experienced number 2 along side him, probably spelling the name wrong but Vierri his ex-manager or maybe a 3 month contract for mateo to get us through until may. At least we still have the samsung connection with Chelski.
BournemouthRobin
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4:59pm Wed 20 Feb 13
He was my choice before Paolo got the job and I believe he is still out of work. Proven at this level too....
The Jockster
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4:59pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Oi Den!
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5:00pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Calcio Robin
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5:00pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Swindon1984 wrote:I realise Scholes and Carragher are still playing, but their careers are coming to an end in the premier league, and could be great assets with their football knowledge, and know how, to teams like ours, who are in lower leagues, and would be hungry for success. I would rather have young guys as player managers or just managers, than the tripe and "has beens" who keep being mentioned. After DI Cannio, we need someone who can do the job, and have an aura, and flair, and not the folded arms brigade that are always throwing their hat into the ring. Anyway I just named them as examples, they will probably get coaching roles at thier present clubs. I still like the Idea of Adkins as for the rest no thank you, anyway God and his entourage might be back for the week end!!!!!, but really I stand more chance of being the next pope!!!.
Calcio Robin wrote:Why are you naming players who are still playing as potential managers? Heard someone earlier putting Darren Ward's name in contention as player manager - you can't just decide you want to be a manager and turn up at the club the next day!
That God!!!! Hope all the other useless nominees and "has beens" will come out and say the same. Scholes , Carragher, etc young and energetic or Adkins "been there and done it" and was doing a good job at Southamton. I wonder if Alun Rossiter could do both jobs, has he got his FA badges?, What a man ans motivator.
Adkins, good shout, and many would agree myself included. Carragher and Scholes? You've lost me there.
Good news no Hockaday anyway, although I've heard some names mentioned which are just as bad.
the don69
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5:05pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Quality Steve!now Graham's got the name out,it's a top call,but would he come here?????????????
Graham8181 wrote:I see the stutter has not gone away Graham!
Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins
We are PANTS
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5:09pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Super Mario TV wrote:Disrespect to a very good Swindon town servant!! I would suggest that you are the knob sir!!!
He has never managed a league club, why would Swindon wan't a non league manager, he is even behind Newell and Buckle in the queue, what a nob.
RamsburyRed
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5:11pm Wed 20 Feb 13
old town robin wrote:Sound reasoning. I would add that we have no chance of landing Adkins.
I think the only thing that is definite for this week is Paul Bodin and Jamie Pitman will be in the dugout for the Preston game. Both have enough experience to hold the fort until this new board get their act together. Anyone expecting to see their take over ratified this week, don't hold your breath. I know the loan window closes in March but is it the1st? we are fast running out of time to get some much needed strength in and the second question is after losing 2 very good loanees and the opportunity for another 3, where would any new manager find additional quality to help out our over stretched squad
the don69
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5:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:PS!we've gone from Paolo's circus!to Jed's comedy club!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve. Brentford wrote:Quality Steve!now Graham's got the name out,it's a top call,but would he come here?????????????
Graham8181 wrote:I see the stutter has not gone away Graham!
Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins Adkins
Oi Den!
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5:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
We are PANTS
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5:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Fernham Red wrote:What about Adkins??? He would be good...
Somebody say Adkins? Now there's a thought Jed.......
deviant in the tupping pen
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5:15pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Brainy_G93
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5:17pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Oi Den!
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5:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13
RamsburyRed wrote:Many people agree with you but I don't see why Adkins should think we're not big enough for him. He was at our level a couple of years ago and at a smaller club than us before that. I'd support him if he was appointed but I'm not sure why he's such a popular choice.
old town robin wrote:Sound reasoning. I would add that we have no chance of landing Adkins.
I think the only thing that is definite for this week is Paul Bodin and Jamie Pitman will be in the dugout for the Preston game. Both have enough experience to hold the fort until this new board get their act together. Anyone expecting to see their take over ratified this week, don't hold your breath. I know the loan window closes in March but is it the1st? we are fast running out of time to get some much needed strength in and the second question is after losing 2 very good loanees and the opportunity for another 3, where would any new manager find additional quality to help out our over stretched squad
raybren
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5:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
your " Eddie Howe ".
Let battle commence.
pcowley
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5:21pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford
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5:24pm Wed 20 Feb 13
We are PANTS wrote:Thank you Pants.
Super Mario TV wrote:Disrespect to a very good Swindon town servant!! I would suggest that you are the knob sir!!!
He has never managed a league club, why would Swindon wan't a non league manager, he is even behind Newell and Buckle in the queue, what a nob.
Robin of Andover
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5:26pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Calcio Robin
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5:35pm Wed 20 Feb 13
deviant in the tupping pen wrote:Bless you my son, Pope Calcio it is!!!.
Calcio for Pope!
Brainy_G93
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5:36pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Brainy_G93
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5:39pm Wed 20 Feb 13
davel4848
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5:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
t & Malpas with Andy King supplying the booze & fags.
HOOKEY
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5:43pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Jets there'd
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5:50pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Don't let's appoint a Bodin or God forbid a Dave Hockaday type of person.
It needs an EXPERIENCED manager please.
madterrier
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5:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13
What is interesting though is that there have been a number of managerial vacancies in the Championship recently, and Adkins hasn't been anywhere near any of them.
So I hope at least someone asks him if he's interested. Presumably he lives in the SW area? And if he's waiting until summer to review his options, then a short-term contract, with the chance to enhance his CV even further by guiding us to the Championship, might have appeal.
So ask him.
madterrier
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6:01pm Wed 20 Feb 13
RamsburyRed
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6:02pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:Well that's the clue Den, he was at our level a couple of years ago.
RamsburyRed wrote:Many people agree with you but I don't see why Adkins should think we're not big enough for him. He was at our level a couple of years ago and at a smaller club than us before that. I'd support him if he was appointed but I'm not sure why he's such a popular choice.old town robin wrote: I think the only thing that is definite for this week is Paul Bodin and Jamie Pitman will be in the dugout for the Preston game. Both have enough experience to hold the fort until this new board get their act together. Anyone expecting to see their take over ratified this week, don't hold your breath. I know the loan window closes in March but is it the1st? we are fast running out of time to get some much needed strength in and the second question is after losing 2 very good loanees and the opportunity for another 3, where would any new manager find additional quality to help out our over stretched squadSound reasoning. I would add that we have no chance of landing Adkins.
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Unless he's absolutely desperate to grab at the first thing he's offered, he'll surely be looking for the decent Championship club his experience warrants.
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For similar reasons, I cannot see why on earth Hoddle would come back (and quite a few wouldn't want him anyway, including me, purely because he hasn't got recent relevant experience).
davel4848
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6:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13
EastleazeRed
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6:07pm Wed 20 Feb 13
stanharlands6shirt wrote:I read that on wiki last night , not a great record. Dont think it will be him though , he`s not even in the betting . My money is on phil parkingson , just waiting to make there move after the weekends cup final, hence miller and ward in charge saturday.
WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THE NEW BOARD HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND....AND IT WILL BE MIKE NEWELL...
APPEARS A DECENT MAN ON THE FACE OF IT, STANDING UP TO BUNGS ETC WHILST AT LUTON?
HOWEVER HE TOOK OVER HARTLEPOOL WHO WERE TOP OF DIVISION THREE (LEAGUE ONE) AND CLEAR BY SIXTEEN POINTS.. THEY WENT ON A TERRIBLE RUN, WERE CAUGHT AND OVERTAKEN, ALTHOUGH THEY DID MANAGE TO FINISH RUNNERS UP.
WE DO NOT HAVE SIXTEEN POINTS TO THROW AWAY IN AN EXPERIMENT FINDING OUT IF A MANAGER MAY BE ABLE TO CUT IT !!!!!
IT HAS TO BE ADKINS...HE IS CAPABLE OF STEADYING THE SHIP, KEEP US PLAYING FOOTBALL, UNITE THE WHOLE CLUB AND PROBABLY IMPROVE US AGAIN..
swindonjason
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6:08pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Until then, we have to go with the home grown talents of Bodin, Pitman and Ally Mac for example - all of which are employed by the club at some sort of nature.
When the take over is ratified, then lets start specualting again
bushwacker
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6:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Davethered
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6:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Okus Road
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7:08pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Good move then hopefully we get the right person in for next season I. The Championdhip.
chrystovski
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7:45pm Wed 20 Feb 13
In that case I would also like to say that Swindon Town have made no contact with me and why would I want to go there??? I've got the best boss in the world (my missus) and I've got to say that really in case she reads this. If my boss wants me to leave then I want the engagement ring I bought her and I'm keeping the car as I got that before I met her.................
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Swindon1984
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8:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13
hertz wrote:And Ward/Miller now in temporary charge, well shut my mouth! Only happy to admit when I'm wrong.
1984 the reason players have been named is simply to steady the ship , keep the discipline and run the training , hence the reason Ward has been mentioned , he is a true professional on and off the field and a very good role model for diet etc . A nice steady hand on the wheel while we change drivers , I believe thatis the reason , nobody expects him to suddenly become manager .
the wizard
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9:36pm Wed 20 Feb 13
The Jockster
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10:35pm Wed 20 Feb 13
the wizard wrote:Wiz do you really think the trust carries any real clout with the club? I don't I'm afraid and have to say thought John Ward's pre nip remarks were a load if old twaddle IMO buddy.
Why isn't the trust doing something to help settle this mess.
Jon the red says...
1:37pm Wed 20 Feb 13