Former England captain interested in Town job (From Swindon Advertiser)
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SWINDON TOWN: Former England captain interested in Town job
6:00am Thursday 21st February 2013 in Sport Exclusive By Sam Morshead
Terry Butcher is understood to be keen on the Swindon Town manager's job
A FORMER England captain is interested in the vacant managerial position at Swindon Town.
The Advertiser understands Terry Butcher, who skippered his country seven times over an international career spanning 77 caps, could be tempted from his role as boss of Scottish Premier League outfit Inverness.
Butcher recently came close to taking over at Barnsley following the dismissal of Keith Hill only to decide to stay over the border, while Doncaster have also failed to prise him from Scotland this season.
The 54-year-old’s glittering playing career featured spells at Ipswich and Rangers before he first took the step into management as a 31-year-old at Coventry in 1990.
Stints in the top job at Sunderland, Motherwell, Sydney FC and Brentford followed before he moved to Inverness in 2009.
Meanwhile, the Advertiser has learnt that former Derby and Hull boss Phil Brown is also keen to become the new manager at the County Ground.
Brown has not held a job in the game since December 2011, when he left Preston after an ill-fated spell in charge at Deepdale.
However, the Halifax and Bolton defender enjoyed unprecedented success during his time with Hull, where he led the Tigers to the top flight for the first time in their history following a 1-0 play-off final win over Bristol City in 2008.
He then managed to keep Hull in the Premier League the next season before being placed on gardening leave in 2010 as his side struggled to avoid the drop.
The Adver understands Brown recently applied for the manager’s post at Partick Thistle.
Both Butcher and Brown are big believers in youth development at football clubs and it is believed that the pair would be keen to integrate more of Swindon’s young talent into the first team.
Former Chelsea striker Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink became the bookies’ favourite to take on the Town job last night, and it is understood that the Dutchman has contacted the consortium poised to take charge in Wiltshire.
Meanwhile, Tommy Miller and Darren Ward have been placed in temporary charge of the Robins.
Comments(177)
EastleazeRed
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6:12am Thu 21 Feb 13
aeg1955
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6:16am Thu 21 Feb 13
louiscassius
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6:19am Thu 21 Feb 13
Whey better than my 2 from yesterday Buckle and Newell.
Butcher i like, i doubt he's had money to play with and done well.
And Brown; again not a bad shout......I'd be happy with either......
Hmmm, now Jimmy....thats a tricky one....
Young, keen, but i think to quiet and not hard enough in my opinion........
Butcher and Brown i think wouldnt take any cr*p from players.....But, i think they would deffo bring something a little extra to the table....
And wouldnt fall out and get rid of players (Caddis).....
Louis :-))))
Happier morning.......
Its getting brighter!!!
clunge_meister
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6:20am Thu 21 Feb 13
Takeover's tomorrow.
It's only a day away."
Chish and Fips
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6:26am Thu 21 Feb 13
louiscassius
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6:28am Thu 21 Feb 13
Whoops, better stop that lol.
I thinkthe board will opt for Jimmy......
They might think fans have just lost Paolo, lets give them a name they know as a good footballer....
Its only a short term contract 14 games, if it works out great...
If not, we'll start the interview process again; without having to rush at the end of the season where we can take our time.....
Whats your views???
Louis :-)))
Hemmbass
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6:33am Thu 21 Feb 13
As for the previous post saying 'with Butcher comes Malpas'. From what I can gather from a friend who lives in Scotland, Malpas is one of those people who are in the same group as Peter Shreeves, Don Howe, John Gorman - very good coaches, but c**p managers.
Chish and Fips
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6:34am Thu 21 Feb 13
Too much of a gamble for me Jimmy H - I like the sound of Phil Brown but worried with Butcher if Malpass tagged along for the ride.
There's loads more names that are going to be banded round yet, normally its an obscure one that gets the nod.
stfclondon
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6:42am Thu 21 Feb 13
Brown did brilliantly with Hull but is a bit of a 'Marmite' character.
Hasselbaink would be a gamble, but those have paid off for us in the past.
Adkins is still my first choice, although I don't know how realistic that is.
Not so Smart Roger
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6:50am Thu 21 Feb 13
town4life85
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7:11am Thu 21 Feb 13
Brainy_G93
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7:21am Thu 21 Feb 13
Butcher... Better
Jimmy FH... Yes, my choice, let the roller coaster continue.
We gambled with first jobs for ex players in the past (Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, McMahon, PDC) they all got us promoted.
smirg kcab
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7:22am Thu 21 Feb 13
Alf Garnett next
Onwards and upwards
Jets there'd
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7:22am Thu 21 Feb 13
smirg kcab
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7:29am Thu 21 Feb 13
Both holdsworths with both risser,
Four deadbeats in one swoop
Onwards and upwards
Scribblemilk
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7:31am Thu 21 Feb 13
We have seen what works, the style of football that Paolo provided us was good to watch and progressive.
We are a top of the league, so whoever applies for the job should have to show they can match what has gone before, I fear with new owners will come completely different set of values, I don't want to go back to the Sturrock days of pragmatic football. Its not why I go to games or support this club. We have a heritage of good progressive passing football, and the new manager should be looking carry that on. So no to anyone who knows nothing of the heritage or is a big time charlie like Brown, there is a reason he hasn't been back in football!
oz ashes
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7:32am Thu 21 Feb 13
please NO
STFC 67
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7:35am Thu 21 Feb 13
aeg1955 wrote:God forbid
With butcher would come Malpass LOL
Helpme234
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7:37am Thu 21 Feb 13
I'm just not ready despite knowing than an era is over and we won't see Paolo back again. I need more time for mourning!
red white
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7:46am Thu 21 Feb 13
This is so depressing all these old names being draggged up.
dreamofacleansheet2
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7:48am Thu 21 Feb 13
I'll build a statue of Darren and Tommy when we're in the Premiership!!
stanharlands6shirt
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7:49am Thu 21 Feb 13
J.F.H. OFFERS ANOTHER ROOKIE A CHANCE, AND THAT HAS BECOME SOMEWHAT OF A SWINDON TRADEMARK. IT HAS ALSO PROVED SUCCESSFUL !
ON THAT BASIS ALONE I WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER J.F.H.
HOWEVER, THERE IS STILL ONLY ONE OUTSTANDING CANDIDATE IN MY EYES, AND I REALLY HOPE WE BELIEVE IN OUR OWN STATUS AND HISTORY ENOUGH TO GO OUT AND PERSUADE HIM THAT THIS JOB, THIS CLUB AND THESE SUPPORTERS ARE WAITING FOR HIM?
IT HAS TO BE ADKINS.....STILL MY FIRST CHOICE BY A COUNTRY MILE...
avo
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7:50am Thu 21 Feb 13
Wilesy
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7:55am Thu 21 Feb 13
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:Neither ready to hang up boots just yet both have a year or two to go.
What on earth is wrong with Ward & Miller? The players are clearly behind them. Ward in particular is clear how to live his life as a professional athlete and long may Paolo's ethos of hard work, discipline and dedication remain at this club.
I'll build a statue of Darren and Tommy when we're in the Premiership!!
Brown, Butcher, Jfh all reasonable options, but no-one mentioned yet is anywhere near as exciting a name as Paolo. Not even close.
Agree with helpme the mourning period for Paolo far from over. Have we 100% seen the last of him though? I'm not 100% sure we have.
old town robin
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7:57am Thu 21 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:If Hasslebank was the chosen one, he would have to have an experienced number 2 along side him.
Butcher would be a very good choice.
Brown did brilliantly with Hull but is a bit of a 'Marmite' character.
Hasselbaink would be a gamble, but those have paid off for us in the past.
Adkins is still my first choice, although I don't know how realistic that is.
A short contract until end of season might suit Phil Brown, he knows what it takes to get teams up, still remember he wouldn't let his Hull team into the dressing room for a cup of tea at half time and rollicked them on the pitch.
davel4848
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7:58am Thu 21 Feb 13
I'm not talking about the Scottish Premier. Kermit the frog could get a team of Miss Piggies into the top 3 in that league.
grove red
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8:05am Thu 21 Feb 13
alanevery
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8:05am Thu 21 Feb 13
It appears his whole management style is based on shouting and bullying people.
Swindon can do so much better than him
smirg kcab
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8:08am Thu 21 Feb 13
Pat butcher passed away and i don't think she would have taken the job as her hand was always tied up with fags
Why the picture of terry? He has no idea how to manage a side.
Onwards and upwards
smirg kcab
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8:16am Thu 21 Feb 13
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:Blimey dreamo
What on earth is wrong with Ward & Miller? The players are clearly behind them. Ward in particular is clear how to live his life as a professional athlete and long may Paolo's ethos of hard work, discipline and dedication remain at this club.
I'll build a statue of Darren and Tommy when we're in the Premiership!!
We will have more statues with you than the Terracotta Army
Onwards and upwards
Eieieio to the bookies we will go
vivaletour
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8:17am Thu 21 Feb 13
We are PANTS
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8:19am Thu 21 Feb 13
COYR'ssssssss
Pewsham Red
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8:20am Thu 21 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:Agreed. Butcher would be decent shout. Not so enamoured by Brown. Presumably, by 'marmite' I assume you mean he looks like he's covered in it.
Butcher would be a very good choice.
Brown did brilliantly with Hull but is a bit of a 'Marmite' character.
Hasselbaink would be a gamble, but those have paid off for us in the past.
Adkins is still my first choice, although I don't know how realistic that is.
Adkins would be my first choice too.
Pewsham Red
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8:21am Thu 21 Feb 13
vivaletour wrote:I'd ring him to ask him if he knew he name of a decent manager!
If it was me I'd be giving Gareth Southgate a ring. Nearly kept boro up with no money and then was sacked when they were joint top and look where they are now. Spent years as head of youth development at the FA. He's my man for the job!
Would help our youth set up but not sure he is what we need.
umpcah
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8:26am Thu 21 Feb 13
Med Red
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8:32am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier
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8:34am Thu 21 Feb 13
Leave things as they are I say. Then review in the summer, when there's more time, and get a profile player starting out in management. It's worked for us in the past - no reason it won't work again.
super reds
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8:36am Thu 21 Feb 13
Pewsham Red wrote:Pewsham, 'Marmite character' would say to me, 'you either love him or hate him'
stfclondon wrote:Agreed. Butcher would be decent shout. Not so enamoured by Brown. Presumably, by 'marmite' I assume you mean he looks like he's covered in it.
Butcher would be a very good choice.
Brown did brilliantly with Hull but is a bit of a 'Marmite' character.
Hasselbaink would be a gamble, but those have paid off for us in the past.
Adkins is still my first choice, although I don't know how realistic that is.
Adkins would be my first choice too.
Farteaboy
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8:38am Thu 21 Feb 13
Farteaboy
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8:38am Thu 21 Feb 13
Is that you Lovesey
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8:38am Thu 21 Feb 13
stanharlands6shirt
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8:40am Thu 21 Feb 13
Enough said.....
Oldswindonian
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8:46am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oxon-Red
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8:46am Thu 21 Feb 13
The club may receive the go ahead today :-)
If not it will be tomorrow :-(
COYMR
Robinonfire
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8:48am Thu 21 Feb 13
The Jockster
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8:48am Thu 21 Feb 13
Not so Smart Roger wrote:Mmm no disrespect but if you're serious about Malpas then I'd have to say you're log in name is very apt lol! To quote Mr McEnroe "You cannot be serious" :)
I'd have no problem with Malpas returning as coach, but I'm not convinced about Butcher. Too many failures on his CV for my liking.
sagadude
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8:48am Thu 21 Feb 13
Also if he was to finish of PDC's work and take us up, he is less likely to be headhunted or leave us, apart from maybe Ipswich?
glasred
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8:48am Thu 21 Feb 13
A long shot some may say,but I dont think we have heard the last of PDC at STFC!!
The Jockster
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8:50am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oxon-Red wrote:Oxon but as Ronan? Sang "but tomorrow never comes" :)
Good News, the Fax machine at the County Ground has been fixed and the Football League have recruited a 16 Year Old YTS kid to help tham understand email.
The club may receive the go ahead today :-)
If not it will be tomorrow :-(
COYMR
Terryswin
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8:52am Thu 21 Feb 13
wards red white army
south stand to sing
millers red & white army
on Saturday,,,,,lets get behind the lads
do we all agree.........COYR
ICDeadpeople
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8:53am Thu 21 Feb 13
louiscassius wrote:I think he could be just the bloke we're after If he brings experienced backroom staff with him.
Just been thinking... Whoops, better stop that lol. I thinkthe board will opt for Jimmy...... They might think fans have just lost Paolo, lets give them a name they know as a good footballer.... Its only a short term contract 14 games, if it works out great... If not, we'll start the interview process again; without having to rush at the end of the season where we can take our time..... Whats your views??? Louis :-)))
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Would PDC have been as successful without his coaching/medical team?
umpcah
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8:53am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oldswindonian wrote:"continue to look for people like Adkins or retiring players with flair who seem to have done well here.” ? The Club , or someone within it , as far as I know has made no statement as to who they are looking for let alone continue ! Meanwhile it seems that the playing squad have got their heads together and " appointed " their own management pairing. Seems OK to me for the time being.
Oh, no, not Butcher. Mr Negative and king of the long ball. What about his management C.V. Give it a rest please and continue to look for people like Adkins or retiring players with flair who seem to have done well here.
mallorca
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8:54am Thu 21 Feb 13
r.
First let´s hope the FL conclude and the new owners takeover.
Cannot see Pdc coming back and to be honest the way he walked was not right for the fans at all.OK he had his reasons and pride.
See Cottrill got mentioned yes he played the long Ball but at Burley and Notts County he had success.Still feel a younger hungry manager may fit the bill,however who are we to suggest?????? powers to be most likely have it all done and dusted.
As for the takeover what a complete B-lls up does anyone have an indication when and if it will happen????
TheDukeOfBanbury
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8:58am Thu 21 Feb 13
Has done a great job at his first club, installs pride, passion and fitness.
Lifts a club, unites the fans and gets your club National identity.
Paolo would be my first choice.
ICDeadpeople
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8:58am Thu 21 Feb 13
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How about John Collins? Former Hibs boss & a very useful player before he became a manager.
umpcah
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8:59am Thu 21 Feb 13
mallorca wrote:Even Mystic Meg is stumped on that one ! Tomorrow ?
Like many don´t like the sound of Buckle/Newell/Butche
r.
First let´s hope the FL conclude and the new owners takeover.
Cannot see Pdc coming back and to be honest the way he walked was not right for the fans at all.OK he had his reasons and pride.
See Cottrill got mentioned yes he played the long Ball but at Burley and Notts County he had success.Still feel a younger hungry manager may fit the bill,however who are we to suggest?????? powers to be most likely have it all done and dusted.
As for the takeover what a complete B-lls up does anyone have an indication when and if it will happen????
madred
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8:59am Thu 21 Feb 13
oldtownred
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9:00am Thu 21 Feb 13
And one thing is certain for me, an interim manager is definitely NOT the answer ....we do have to move quickly because......
1. There are key players out of contract and the new manager shoudl be the one to persuade them to stay with us and share his vision. Needs to be done quickly too.
2. Other clubs have key players coming out of contract and any bargains tend to be snaffled quite quickly.
3. The players with 'year left' contracts like Williams and Collins need to be tempted by an exciting name to stay and extend their own contracts.
4. Ward and Miller may find the responsibility will be difficult to reconcile with playing as well. I wish it was just one, committees don't tend to be decisive at decision making. Can they really be expected to extend contracts or send a team mate packing?
5. PDC...whatever our views....has left big boots to fill and a large legacy. A Paul Hart charisma will not do this. It has to be someone who is respected by players,media and fans alike for their achievements so far. A proven winner!
So my request to the new board....be imaginative and do not go for the predictable merry go round of particpants who fill every longlist and bring as much excitement as cold custard.
Wonder Strike
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9:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
VinnyPericard
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9:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
Anyone still hopeful of a dramatic U-turn? The longer this goes on the less likely it becomes.
Jimmy would be of interest - similar to Di Canio in that he is unproven but could have a lot to offer. The players I'm sure will respect a man who has been at the very top, and is still more in touch with the younger players.
dreamofacleansheet2
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9:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
Over the moon with Ward and Miller though and I'll be joining you at the bookies Grim!
Blazing Riff
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9:08am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Whoever comes in would need to hit the ground running. I fear they would also want to use their own regimes which could be disruptive at this critical stage. Ward, Miller perhaps Bodin and the the team, could continue with the regimes Paolo et al established and, it obviously works. If it ain't broke don't fix it. The only question is 'who will take charge from the dugout and make those canny substitutions when required?' Anyway, 1st test is Saturday followed quickly by test 2 on Tues. I doubt a new man would be in by then anyway so I hope the new board, if themselves appointed, will take the two tests into consideration.
We don't need to do anything yet. We've appointed Caveman and Windy Miller and who's to say that combo, albeit unusual, won't be better than a new man coming in with new methods and new ideas?
Leave things as they are I say. Then review in the summer, when there's more time, and get a profile player starting out in management. It's worked for us in the past - no reason it won't work again.
dreamofacleansheet2
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9:10am Thu 21 Feb 13
Lanky
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9:10am Thu 21 Feb 13
oldtownred wrote:All well and good...so give us some examples of who fits the bill for you (and are realistic!)
NO NO NO NO and NO!! Where is the imagination?!!! Surely there must be a modern day Lou Macari or Glen Hoddle lurking and chomping at the bit to be involved in a club like Town?
And one thing is certain for me, an interim manager is definitely NOT the answer ....we do have to move quickly because......
1. There are key players out of contract and the new manager shoudl be the one to persuade them to stay with us and share his vision. Needs to be done quickly too.
2. Other clubs have key players coming out of contract and any bargains tend to be snaffled quite quickly.
3. The players with 'year left' contracts like Williams and Collins need to be tempted by an exciting name to stay and extend their own contracts.
4. Ward and Miller may find the responsibility will be difficult to reconcile with playing as well. I wish it was just one, committees don't tend to be decisive at decision making. Can they really be expected to extend contracts or send a team mate packing?
5. PDC...whatever our views....has left big boots to fill and a large legacy. A Paul Hart charisma will not do this. It has to be someone who is respected by players,media and fans alike for their achievements so far. A proven winner!
So my request to the new board....be imaginative and do not go for the predictable merry go round of particpants who fill every longlist and bring as much excitement as cold custard.
The Jockster
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9:11am Thu 21 Feb 13
smirg kcab wrote:Grim brllliant - just what we need to brighten these dark days still clocks go forward soon :)
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:Blimey dreamo
What on earth is wrong with Ward & Miller? The players are clearly behind them. Ward in particular is clear how to live his life as a professional athlete and long may Paolo's ethos of hard work, discipline and dedication remain at this club.
I'll build a statue of Darren and Tommy when we're in the Premiership!!
We will have more statues with you than the Terracotta Army
Onwards and upwards
Eieieio to the bookies we will go
The Jockster
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9:13am Thu 21 Feb 13
town4life85 wrote:= shergar + donkey
Shearer or Tony Adams??
Blazing Riff
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9:14am Thu 21 Feb 13
Terryswin wrote:Then ALL sing 'SWINDON'S red and white army'.
town end to sing
wards red white army
south stand to sing
millers red & white army
on Saturday,,,,,lets get behind the lads
do we all agree.........COYR
smirg kcab
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9:16am Thu 21 Feb 13
Please come home Paolo the names being branded on here will make the n.h.s stretched to the limit in Swindon
Onwards and upwards
HEEEEELP
RamsburyRed
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9:21am Thu 21 Feb 13
oldtownred wrote:Best post so far. I especially agree with point 4. Some folk have no idea what is involved running a team, this is a very heavy additional burden for two key players. It is a huge risk and I dearly hope it will only be for one or two games.
NO NO NO NO and NO!! Where is the imagination?!!! Surely there must be a modern day Lou Macari or Glen Hoddle lurking and chomping at the bit to be involved in a club like Town? And one thing is certain for me, an interim manager is definitely NOT the answer ....we do have to move quickly because...... 1. There are key players out of contract and the new manager shoudl be the one to persuade them to stay with us and share his vision. Needs to be done quickly too. 2. Other clubs have key players coming out of contract and any bargains tend to be snaffled quite quickly. 3. The players with 'year left' contracts like Williams and Collins need to be tempted by an exciting name to stay and extend their own contracts. 4. Ward and Miller may find the responsibility will be difficult to reconcile with playing as well. I wish it was just one, committees don't tend to be decisive at decision making. Can they really be expected to extend contracts or send a team mate packing? 5. PDC...whatever our views....has left big boots to fill and a large legacy. A Paul Hart charisma will not do this. It has to be someone who is respected by players,media and fans alike for their achievements so far. A proven winner! So my request to the new board....be imaginative and do not go for the predictable merry go round of particpants who fill every longlist and bring as much excitement as cold custard.
MITTED
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9:21am Thu 21 Feb 13
But, I really would want Paolo to return or Nigel Adkins to come to the rescue.
COYR
Calcio Robin
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9:22am Thu 21 Feb 13
arkells
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9:27am Thu 21 Feb 13
the don69
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9:32am Thu 21 Feb 13
arkells wrote:Anyone that pays £35m for Andy Carrol needs to question their sanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenny Dalglish, give him a call he would do well
Blazing Riff
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9:32am Thu 21 Feb 13
RamsburyRed wrote:Yep. Have to agree. More considered than my post. There is more to it than meets the eye.
oldtownred wrote:Best post so far. I especially agree with point 4. Some folk have no idea what is involved running a team, this is a very heavy additional burden for two key players. It is a huge risk and I dearly hope it will only be for one or two games.
NO NO NO NO and NO!! Where is the imagination?!!! Surely there must be a modern day Lou Macari or Glen Hoddle lurking and chomping at the bit to be involved in a club like Town? And one thing is certain for me, an interim manager is definitely NOT the answer ....we do have to move quickly because...... 1. There are key players out of contract and the new manager shoudl be the one to persuade them to stay with us and share his vision. Needs to be done quickly too. 2. Other clubs have key players coming out of contract and any bargains tend to be snaffled quite quickly. 3. The players with 'year left' contracts like Williams and Collins need to be tempted by an exciting name to stay and extend their own contracts. 4. Ward and Miller may find the responsibility will be difficult to reconcile with playing as well. I wish it was just one, committees don't tend to be decisive at decision making. Can they really be expected to extend contracts or send a team mate packing? 5. PDC...whatever our views....has left big boots to fill and a large legacy. A Paul Hart charisma will not do this. It has to be someone who is respected by players,media and fans alike for their achievements so far. A proven winner! So my request to the new board....be imaginative and do not go for the predictable merry go round of particpants who fill every longlist and bring as much excitement as cold custard.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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9:38am Thu 21 Feb 13
Scribblemilk wrote:Morning All. The Truck-Spotter returns.!!!!
I wouldn't be happy for any of these names put forward to get the job now. Scottish football is a back water, Butcher is too old school the game has moved on.
We have seen what works, the style of football that Paolo provided us was good to watch and progressive.
We are a top of the league, so whoever applies for the job should have to show they can match what has gone before, I fear with new owners will come completely different set of values, I don't want to go back to the Sturrock days of pragmatic football. Its not why I go to games or support this club. We have a heritage of good progressive passing football, and the new manager should be looking carry that on. So no to anyone who knows nothing of the heritage or is a big time charlie like Brown, there is a reason he hasn't been back in football!
Charlie Brown, wasn't he a comic character. Could be the ideal candidate.
Jon the red
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9:40am Thu 21 Feb 13
HOOKEY
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9:43am Thu 21 Feb 13
RedRich
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9:44am Thu 21 Feb 13
Please NOT Butcher who would bring Malpas (Mr personality) with him. Managerial record not really any good.
Mr perma-tan Brown was good at first with Hull (beating Brissle **ity in the play off final worth a bit of credit) but was eventually a joke as Hull went down & a disaster at Preston.
All the others quoted in the adver do not fit the bill for a progessive club like us.
I agree with most suggestions that NIGEL ATKINS is best choice by far & can take us forward.
While I would love to see Paolo come back, but very unlikely, HAS HIS RESIGNATION ACTUALLY BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE CLUB?
PLease Jed & co an exciting manager, someone to continue the fantasic work done in the last 20 months,
COYR
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jam1
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9:47am Thu 21 Feb 13
southside7
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9:48am Thu 21 Feb 13
Jon the red wrote:You are joking aren't you? It's really interesting to see how many people are suffering delusional withdrawal after Paolo has left. It's almost like grief, producing traits of denial and disbelief that he's gone. Wouldn't be surprised if some fans are still saying that Paolo is still manager...'resigned?
Paolo Di Canio is the man for Swindon. Different class. Unfinished business. Surely the new consortium understand this. No disrespect but majority of names linked to being new manager will be a big backward step. Paolo come back please.
'....'of course he hasn't, where did you hear that?' Get a grip, the man 'has' gone and so have his team, to return now would be the most embarrassing, undignified and petulant incident in British footballing history......he's gone, OK? he really has gone.
Old-Stager, Hilperton
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9:49am Thu 21 Feb 13
1. Nigel Adkins, but he is probably in big demand elsewhere.
2. Neil Warnock, is reckoned to be near closure at Elland Road, and would surely be a success at Swindon Town, but at the moment is not available.
3. Steve Cotterill, is probably available if required, and realistically is my current choice as replacement for Di Canio.
4. My longshot choice would be Nicky Forster, who I reckon ticks the boxes of most of my questions.
oncearedalwaysared
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9:53am Thu 21 Feb 13
1st choice would still ahve to be the return of the Messiah (despite my annoyance at the way he has conducted himself)
2nd choice would still be Adkins even though I can see no way he would be interested, we can only dream.
3rd choice - absolutely no idea, but certainly have a much larger list of names who would definitely NOT want
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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9:56am Thu 21 Feb 13
southside7 wrote:sooooo heartless.!!!!!!!!
Jon the red wrote:You are joking aren't you? It's really interesting to see how many people are suffering delusional withdrawal after Paolo has left. It's almost like grief, producing traits of denial and disbelief that he's gone. Wouldn't be surprised if some fans are still saying that Paolo is still manager...'resigned?
Paolo Di Canio is the man for Swindon. Different class. Unfinished business. Surely the new consortium understand this. No disrespect but majority of names linked to being new manager will be a big backward step. Paolo come back please.
'....'of course he hasn't, where did you hear that?' Get a grip, the man 'has' gone and so have his team, to return now would be the most embarrassing, undignified and petulant incident in British footballing history......he's gone, OK? he really has gone.
red white
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9:57am Thu 21 Feb 13
glasred wrote:I'm was thinking that too.
Wait until the takeover is completed and then we will hear from PDC...all is quiet because no one can speak...except PDC could speak now if he wanted to..if he REALLY has cut and run from this club...so why no speach from him on Sky or BBC?....He may well be waiting in the wings for the new owners to take the helm....I find it hard to beleive that PDC will walk away from STFC now,with all his hard work showing us top of the table. A long shot some may say,but I dont think we have heard the last of PDC at STFC!!
Paolo loves the club and the fans but hates the shambles of the new board and the FL progress at the moment.
No wonder he walked he would have imploded by now and it's driving all of us nuts.
Come back Saint Paolo!
Oi Den!
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9:58am Thu 21 Feb 13
tifosi
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10:03am Thu 21 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:If Di Canio came back he wouldn't have any credibility. He left us at a testing time and showed that all he really cares about is one thing - himself. His conduct has been disgraceful.
southside7 wrote:sooooo heartless.!!!!!!!!
Jon the red wrote:You are joking aren't you? It's really interesting to see how many people are suffering delusional withdrawal after Paolo has left. It's almost like grief, producing traits of denial and disbelief that he's gone. Wouldn't be surprised if some fans are still saying that Paolo is still manager...'resigned?
Paolo Di Canio is the man for Swindon. Different class. Unfinished business. Surely the new consortium understand this. No disrespect but majority of names linked to being new manager will be a big backward step. Paolo come back please.
'....'of course he hasn't, where did you hear that?' Get a grip, the man 'has' gone and so have his team, to return now would be the most embarrassing, undignified and petulant incident in British footballing history......he's gone, OK? he really has gone.
the wizard
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10:05am Thu 21 Feb 13
It is far better that the players have the same routines which they know and understand and have so far brought success and decent football which has brought us to top of the league. Upheaval which a new regime could bring in could undo all the hard work and proven methods that have taken us this far very well. We need a figurehead manager, Bodin ? until the end of the season and let Ward and Miller continue as long as they are a success. Should we go up then we then need to poach somebody rather than hire somebody who is available, and they are available because they have been sacked, why, probably because they were losing games. As for Butcher and Tangoman, thanks but no thanks, journey men at best and we have had plenty of them already.
hertz
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10:05am Thu 21 Feb 13
dreamofacleansheet2
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10:08am Thu 21 Feb 13
(Apologies)....
tobruk
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10:11am Thu 21 Feb 13
bearwoodred
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10:13am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier
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10:15am Thu 21 Feb 13
If the Jed takeover goes ahead (and if it doesn't, we have far greater problems) then we will learn what their thoughts are. An interim manager to the end of the season versus a longer-term appointment now? Who their preferred candidates are, and so on.
They will also have other questions to face first. Who is actually behind the consortium? (if anyone). What is the financial model? Are they going to finance the current operating deficit that our current squad entails? Or balance the books by selling in the summer? What is their plan to get into the Championship?
And I think we still have more to hear from Paolo, as we do from the other protagonists. That doesn't mean he's coming back. But once we have new owners then it will get interesting. Do people really think Paolo has had his last word on everything? I certainly don't.
Meanwhile journeymen will 'throw their hats into the ring'. I hope the new board won't just be opening envelopes containing job applications. The best candidates for jobs are head-hunted, they don't always come to you. I doubt very much if Adkins feels he needs to apply for jobs right now - doesn't mean we shouldn't ask him the question. Premiership players retiring at the end of this season might not even thought of the possibility - but a word in their agent's ear might sound things out.
Meanwhile new names will be banded about; the betting odds will change; no doubt the Adver will serve up more 'no news' stories of ex-players who have not been approached.
We just have to wait.
Custodian
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10:16am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oi Den!
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10:18am Thu 21 Feb 13
super reds
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10:19am Thu 21 Feb 13
Stilloyal
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10:21am Thu 21 Feb 13
Solksjar would be my choice . Are Clough and Taylor still available ?
super reds
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10:22am Thu 21 Feb 13
Custodian wrote:Adver, now there's something 1 of you could chase up.
Can someone at the club please contact the representatives of Nigel Adkins, just to check if he's interested. He likes his teams to play football. I want this man as the next manager.
Town Of The Future
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10:24am Thu 21 Feb 13
stfc2012 wrote:I second that.
Better to hear those names as opposed to Buckle and Newell.
Butcher would be top of the trio, but i do still think Adkins would be a better prospect should he want to come here.
Feel much better about those names than the trash that has already been touted such as Newell and Buckle.
the don69
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10:29am Thu 21 Feb 13
Stilloyal wrote:No but Shankly and Paisley are!lol!!!!!!
None of the above for me except PDC or Adkins.
Solksjar would be my choice . Are Clough and Taylor still available ?
madterrier
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10:29am Thu 21 Feb 13
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:I have always assumed 'No' as any material change to the club and its contracts could affect the finances of the takeover agreement between the outgoing and the proposed new owners. Apart from which, only the current board could make that appointment, and they want out. So I can't see why it would be seen as any different to signing new players.
As we can't sign players, are we even allowed to appoint a manager under FL rules?
(Apologies)....
LeGod
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10:33am Thu 21 Feb 13
Bring Paolo back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
southside7
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10:36am Thu 21 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:Who di Canio? yes i agree
southside7 wrote:sooooo heartless.!!!!!!!!
Jon the red wrote:You are joking aren't you? It's really interesting to see how many people are suffering delusional withdrawal after Paolo has left. It's almost like grief, producing traits of denial and disbelief that he's gone. Wouldn't be surprised if some fans are still saying that Paolo is still manager...'resigned?
Paolo Di Canio is the man for Swindon. Different class. Unfinished business. Surely the new consortium understand this. No disrespect but majority of names linked to being new manager will be a big backward step. Paolo come back please.
'....'of course he hasn't, where did you hear that?' Get a grip, the man 'has' gone and so have his team, to return now would be the most embarrassing, undignified and petulant incident in British footballing history......he's gone, OK? he really has gone.
Oi Den!
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10:40am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:I think that's probably right. Nothing to stop the prospective owners putting some informal feelers out though.
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:I have always assumed 'No' as any material change to the club and its contracts could affect the finances of the takeover agreement between the outgoing and the proposed new owners. Apart from which, only the current board could make that appointment, and they want out. So I can't see why it would be seen as any different to signing new players.
As we can't sign players, are we even allowed to appoint a manager under FL rules?
(Apologies)....
stfclondon
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10:42am Thu 21 Feb 13
southside7 wrote:I'm with you there. I'm fed up of reading that people want him to come back. It's pathetic. He quit and so did his technical team. They are part of the club's history, not the future. Accept it and move on.
Jon the red wrote: Paolo Di Canio is the man for Swindon. Different class. Unfinished business. Surely the new consortium understand this. No disrespect but majority of names linked to being new manager will be a big backward step. Paolo come back please.You are joking aren't you? It's really interesting to see how many people are suffering delusional withdrawal after Paolo has left. It's almost like grief, producing traits of denial and disbelief that he's gone. Wouldn't be surprised if some fans are still saying that Paolo is still manager...'resigned? '....'of course he hasn't, where did you hear that?' Get a grip, the man 'has' gone and so have his team, to return now would be the most embarrassing, undignified and petulant incident in British footballing history......he's gone, OK? he really has gone.
smirg kcab
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10:43am Thu 21 Feb 13
Makes a change from a dog on his arm.
Onwards and upwards
Oxon-Red
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10:43am Thu 21 Feb 13
The Jockster wrote:Food for thought and Tesco's :-)
town4life85 wrote: Shearer or Tony Adams??= shergar + donkey
COYMR
AdderB
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10:46am Thu 21 Feb 13
So lets see how the players cope and dont panic into appointing a 2nd rate failure from Scotland or Luton etc.
If we keep the same spirit as Tuesday , we may just get that top2 place.
COYR
the don69
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10:47am Thu 21 Feb 13
smirg kcab wrote:Quality Grim your on form today!the terracotta army made chuckle too!!!!!!!!!
Just got my Coventry ticket and Sven goran eriksson walked past with a bird on his shoulder.
Makes a change from a dog on his arm.
Onwards and upwards
the wizard
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10:52am Thu 21 Feb 13
Stilloyal
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10:53am Thu 21 Feb 13
Everything else that has gone on has compounded the situation.
billbst
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10:56am Thu 21 Feb 13
ArkellsStrattonTownEnd
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10:57am Thu 21 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:Some people on here are DiCanio supporters rather than STFC supporters. He's overseen some great results but used our Club like a piece of bogroll and left when he thought it suited him. Little man big club. Get some pride in Swindon please. Starting with the rest of this season. What could be better than seeing the lads emerge from under this egotistical bullying regime and storm to the Championship. COYRs
southside7 wrote:I'm with you there. I'm fed up of reading that people want him to come back. It's pathetic. He quit and so did his technical team. They are part of the club's history, not the future. Accept it and move on.Jon the red wrote: Paolo Di Canio is the man for Swindon. Different class. Unfinished business. Surely the new consortium understand this. No disrespect but majority of names linked to being new manager will be a big backward step. Paolo come back please.You are joking aren't you? It's really interesting to see how many people are suffering delusional withdrawal after Paolo has left. It's almost like grief, producing traits of denial and disbelief that he's gone. Wouldn't be surprised if some fans are still saying that Paolo is still manager...'resigned? '....'of course he hasn't, where did you hear that?' Get a grip, the man 'has' gone and so have his team, to return now would be the most embarrassing, undignified and petulant incident in British footballing history......he's gone, OK? he really has gone.
sideshow
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10:57am Thu 21 Feb 13
!
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbiank is more exciting, a gamble like Paolo was.
mike1990
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10:58am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oxon-Red
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11:00am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Jamie Carragher !
We are all just amusing ourselves by speculating over these various names. There is no-one at the club looking at recruiting a new manager because we don't even know who will own the club or when. If the Jed takeover goes ahead (and if it doesn't, we have far greater problems) then we will learn what their thoughts are. An interim manager to the end of the season versus a longer-term appointment now? Who their preferred candidates are, and so on. They will also have other questions to face first. Who is actually behind the consortium? (if anyone). What is the financial model? Are they going to finance the current operating deficit that our current squad entails? Or balance the books by selling in the summer? What is their plan to get into the Championship? And I think we still have more to hear from Paolo, as we do from the other protagonists. That doesn't mean he's coming back. But once we have new owners then it will get interesting. Do people really think Paolo has had his last word on everything? I certainly don't. Meanwhile journeymen will 'throw their hats into the ring'. I hope the new board won't just be opening envelopes containing job applications. The best candidates for jobs are head-hunted, they don't always come to you. I doubt very much if Adkins feels he needs to apply for jobs right now - doesn't mean we shouldn't ask him the question. Premiership players retiring at the end of this season might not even thought of the possibility - but a word in their agent's ear might sound things out. Meanwhile new names will be banded about; the betting odds will change; no doubt the Adver will serve up more 'no news' stories of ex-players who have not been approached. We just have to wait.
COYMR
zigounette and ballons
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11:01am Thu 21 Feb 13
ST1066
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11:02am Thu 21 Feb 13
stfclondon
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11:03am Thu 21 Feb 13
Stilloyal wrote:You're clutching at straws now. With the benefit of hindsight I think his departure was inevitable after Wray was sacked. Of course there were other factors involved, but the Wray issue was the beginning of the end. I'm amazed he lasted as long as he did.
Forget the broken promises, I reckon that the anniversary of Paolo's beloved mother has played with his emotions quite severely . Everything else that has gone on has compounded the situation.
NorthernRobin86
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11:04am Thu 21 Feb 13
Didi Hamman - was supposedly interested last time we were recruiting.
Nigel Adkins
Gareth Southgate
Glen Hoddle
JFH
We should keep ward and miller until the end of the season, don't want to change things too much just yet. Then get someone with champ experience or a young ambitious ex-player.
smirg kcab
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11:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
Onwards and upwards
Stilloyal
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11:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier
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11:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:And I assume they are already doing that Den - or being 'felt' in the opposite direction by people like JFH.
madterrier wrote:I think that's probably right. Nothing to stop the prospective owners putting some informal feelers out though.
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:I have always assumed 'No' as any material change to the club and its contracts could affect the finances of the takeover agreement between the outgoing and the proposed new owners. Apart from which, only the current board could make that appointment, and they want out. So I can't see why it would be seen as any different to signing new players.
As we can't sign players, are we even allowed to appoint a manager under FL rules?
(Apologies)....
Piston_Broke
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11:06am Thu 21 Feb 13
Custodian wrote:Do you really think Adkins is that good? He certainly talks a good game, but don't forget that at Southampton, he inherited a very good squad put together by Alan Pardew, and had a budget at his disposal that would have made most Championship chairmen weep. Saints were a big fish in a small pond for a couple of seasons, so whilst he did get them back to the PL, in truth, I think you or I could have done the same. They are, after all, in the top 5 wealthiest clubs in England, lucky shysters!
Can someone at the club please contact the representatives of Nigel Adkins, just to check if he's interested. He likes his teams to play football. I want this man as the next manager.
the don69
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11:11am Thu 21 Feb 13
mike1990 wrote:Not a bad shout Mike!and we'd get a free player in Phil,don't think Moyes would be best pleased!but wouldn't lose any sleep over that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about the Neville Brothers?Gary as Manager and Phil player coach?or Giggs and Scholes?
heyheymymy
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11:11am Thu 21 Feb 13
Old-Stager, Hilperton
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11:12am Thu 21 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:Well said Oi Den !...
No hard feelings towards PDC. He did the job that was asked of him, bringing charisma and passion to the job too. I'm not convinced he's the only one who could have got us to this position though. With the money he was allowed to spend (and often waste), failure would have been unthinkable. Would I have him back? Yes, probably - but he has closed the door on us and I think it's preferable that we move on, so I certainly wouldn't like to think we'd be chasing after him. When all's said and done, he is one manager in the history of STFC. We can survive without him. I reckon he might soon reflect that, despite all his complaints, life was not so bad here after all.
That sums up the situation perfectly.
Are there any preferences from yourself on who you would like as our next Manager ?
the don69
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11:14am Thu 21 Feb 13
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:And don't say Paul Harte Den please!!!!!!!!
Oi Den! wrote:Well said Oi Den !...
No hard feelings towards PDC. He did the job that was asked of him, bringing charisma and passion to the job too. I'm not convinced he's the only one who could have got us to this position though. With the money he was allowed to spend (and often waste), failure would have been unthinkable. Would I have him back? Yes, probably - but he has closed the door on us and I think it's preferable that we move on, so I certainly wouldn't like to think we'd be chasing after him. When all's said and done, he is one manager in the history of STFC. We can survive without him. I reckon he might soon reflect that, despite all his complaints, life was not so bad here after all.
That sums up the situation perfectly.
Are there any preferences from yourself on who you would like as our next Manager ?
airman68
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11:19am Thu 21 Feb 13
zigounette and ballons
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11:19am Thu 21 Feb 13
We have a board coming in with very little money to invest so whats the point ?they may leave poorer ,i cant see banks wanting to help and this so called loan from black of 500k is not alot of help in the grand scheme of things .We needed a sheik mansur or a russian oliagarth ,.
We got some local business men i just dont understand what profit they are hoping to make ,or is it that old chestnut the ground again ?,
And before i get jumped on i have been a follower of swindon town all my life,am just curious.
madterrier
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11:24am Thu 21 Feb 13
AdderB wrote:This is what I was about to post. So agree!
I agree with Blazing Riff in many ways. If possible , we need to continue with Paulo's ideas with out him as it seems very unlikely he will come back . From what I can see , its based around total fitness and 100 % commitment .
So lets see how the players cope and dont panic into appointing a 2nd rate failure from Scotland or Luton etc.
If we keep the same spirit as Tuesday , we may just get that top2 place.
COYR
Paolo himself said 'you will never find another manager like me'. He's right of course, but what we MUST retain are the positives he brought to this club (and to English football).
Discipline and a positive work ethic.
Tough fitness regime (hard to believe how unfit some professional footballers allow themselves to become).
Frankness, honesty and loyalty, even if he did go overboard at times (and in the final moments, actually failed us).
A direct and motivating engagement with the supporters to energise around.
It's these values that we must identify in a new candidate, rather than how their name plays back, or what they have or haven't done with this club or with that club, or whether or not they are supposed to play hoofball.
Otherwise we never really build on anything. We just keep knocking down and starting all over again.
smirg kcab
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11:29am Thu 21 Feb 13
40/1 Stan James just arrived
16/1 ward and miller
33/1 iffy onoura
Newell drifting to 10/1 along with pic careta @ 50/1
Jfh still 9/4 fav
Onwards and upwards
billbst
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11:30am Thu 21 Feb 13
smirg kcab
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11:30am Thu 21 Feb 13
airman68 wrote:Are you his pilot?
I have it on good authority that someone is flying in next week from the American Continent with Chelsea connections. He is due in Swindon on Thursday.
Wilesy
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11:33am Thu 21 Feb 13
Have to wait for official Football League approval of the takeover.
Clarify the new board and goals / expectations - Jed and the boys in, Patey officially out, Watkins in or out? Fitton? Black?
At that point I would contact Paolo to just check he's still not interested with the clear future mapped out.
Then widen the net and approach Adkins.
If a no from those two lower the sights a bit but this is a key appointment and we have to keep the momentum up.
The key will be what is the ambition of the new board. I'm not sure even with the bold plans they might have it will be enough to tempt Adkins at this point.
On the player front I hope we can still get Pack. If that deal isn't dead then surely it is on life support with the clock ticking.
madterrier
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11:33am Thu 21 Feb 13
zigounette and ballons wrote:We asked the same question at the time Fitton, Wray and Black moved in. At least we had some possible theories then. Why anyone would want to invest now - or ever - is baffling.
I wonder if anyone can help me .and briefly tell me why buying this football club is an attractive proposition? ,as it seems a money pit with succesive boards all losing their shirts in the process,why would they want to?whats init for them is it kudos or what .
We have a board coming in with very little money to invest so whats the point ?they may leave poorer ,i cant see banks wanting to help and this so called loan from black of 500k is not alot of help in the grand scheme of things .We needed a sheik mansur or a russian oliagarth ,.
We got some local business men i just dont understand what profit they are hoping to make ,or is it that old chestnut the ground again ?,
And before i get jumped on i have been a follower of swindon town all my life,am just curious.
As Yogi Berra said, "It's like deja vu all over again".
Jets there'd
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11:38am Thu 21 Feb 13
Why would anyone unless they were an avid STFC fan or, football fan want to invest in our club? It would be nice to have transparency as to what their motives are.
A few years ago Terry Brady said it was to develop the ground but, when it couldn't be done he left. At least he was upfront & disclosed his intentions.
With regards to Andrew Black, I don't think it's fair to criticise him. He save our club from extinction a few years ago & he cannot publicly defend himself at the moment due the the non disclosure agreement. People turning on him could cause him to wash his hands of the club totally if this sale falls through & then we would be in a bigger mess.
It's very difficult, but we need to be patient, hope the sale goes through & hope the powers that be make an inspired management appointment.
I don't know who but, it would be great to see a modern day Macari, Hoddle or Ardiles. But, somebody, if they exist in football who is loyal & prepared to dig in & work through the good & bad times.
It would also be good if the new owners, when they can talk publicly let people know why they bought our club.
One things is for sure, unless there's an untapped oil field under our pitch they aren't going to make any money out of STFC!!
Lets try & stay patient, support the players who, when we think it is difficult as fans have got bills & mortgages to pay & don't know what is happening either.
It's incredible that we are top of the league & good luck for Saturday. Lets show we want a successful football club & please get out & support them.
madterrier
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11:38am Thu 21 Feb 13
mike1990 wrote:The Neville Brothers??!!
How about the Neville Brothers?Gary as Manager and Phil player coach?or Giggs and Scholes?
I suppose they would add some soul to the club, and some rhythm to our style of play. But doubtless we would end up with the blues again.
lord nikon
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11:43am Thu 21 Feb 13
The Jockster
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11:46am Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Might as well have the Chuckle Brothers jeez there are some donut ideas on here- some folks are still talking about Hoddle ffs !
mike1990 wrote:The Neville Brothers??!!
How about the Neville Brothers?Gary as Manager and Phil player coach?or Giggs and Scholes?
I suppose they would add some soul to the club, and some rhythm to our style of play. But doubtless we would end up with the blues again.
the wizard
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11:47am Thu 21 Feb 13
http://www.thisisswi
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Rogers now back as interim manager please.
Is that you Lovesey
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11:57am Thu 21 Feb 13
Move on now, as much as I would welcome him back it doesnt mean its right
madterrier
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11:57am Thu 21 Feb 13
smirg kcab wrote:More like 'Onwards and down to earth with a thump'
I hear now from a good source that Oscar pistorius has chucked his legs into the ring
Onwards and upwards
Calcio Robin
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12:02pm Thu 21 Feb 13
I say give Ward and Miller a run, I'm sure that that they can keep the positive momentum going, as I don't think they would be any worse than the faliures and big shots that have thrown their hats into the ring.
zigounette and ballons
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12:04pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Oi Den!
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12:04pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:To be honest, O-S, I think it's very difficult and I'm very glad it's not me who has to make the decision. Previous success is no guarantee of more success, and previous pereceived failure is no guarantee of more of that. We have had success with big name footballers cutting their management teeth with us but I don't go along with that as the only way. Our luck has to run out sooner or later. You can look around and see countless examples of star players who flopped as managers.
Oi Den! wrote:Well said Oi Den !...
No hard feelings towards PDC. He did the job that was asked of him, bringing charisma and passion to the job too. I'm not convinced he's the only one who could have got us to this position though. With the money he was allowed to spend (and often waste), failure would have been unthinkable. Would I have him back? Yes, probably - but he has closed the door on us and I think it's preferable that we move on, so I certainly wouldn't like to think we'd be chasing after him. When all's said and done, he is one manager in the history of STFC. We can survive without him. I reckon he might soon reflect that, despite all his complaints, life was not so bad here after all.
That sums up the situation perfectly.
Are there any preferences from yourself on who you would like as our next Manager ?
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Gut feelings: Mark Yates or someone of his ilk who has worked with a small budget and still done well, and I would not be averse to giving Jimmy F-H a shot at it. But I'm convinced that a combination of circumstances, luck and chemistry play a big part in whether it works out or not, and I think this explains why some managers appear to fail at some clubs and succeed at others.
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Regarding Adkins, I think there is something in what Piston_Broke says (although I believe he's a Bournemouth fan so think there may be a bit of mischief in there!).
Oi Den!
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12:08pm Thu 21 Feb 13
avo
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12:11pm Thu 21 Feb 13
the wizard
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12:13pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Is that you Lovesey wrote:Lovesey, I like your emotion and respect your views but, you know, things are not so bad. Digby is back interim G/K coach, we have Ward and Miller as senior pro's . We also have Pitman and Bodin for guidance should we need it, and a squad of players who have a desire to win and carry on winning. We can easily tick along for a few weeks at least without starting any panic. We are top of the league, it is up to others to do better and it just remains for us to keep doing what we do best, play effective football when ever we can. I do think we will be OK.
Paolo has gone, I would have loved him to stay and feel absolutely gutted that he is not here, BUT HE LEFT US IN THE SH1T, end of... where has he been this week....
Move on now, as much as I would welcome him back it doesnt mean its right
PDC made his bed, now he will regret leaving if we go up or make the play offs. His loss, he bailed out, although he is gone and the way he has left has made a return almost impossible. I and the rest would have preferred it if he had stayed. One way or the other, we will go on, we will survive and although his tenure here was good it came at a heavy price, had it not, it wouldn't have been Swindon would it ? Keep smiling, we are top of the league.
Oi Den!
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12:16pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Always red
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12:23pm Thu 21 Feb 13
He's done the dirty on us the same as Hoddle did. Swindon Town looked after Pdc very well with all their backing and when things got a bit sticky he ran away & took all his team with him. Talk about toys & pram never mind all us supporters who have to watch all this from the side yet can do nothing ,but its our money that goes into the club season after season and we always seem to get screwed over after a good spell . Is it some kind of punishment of being a swindon fan ? So no I don't want Paolo back great while it lasted but let's lick our wounds & move on. Good luck to the new board (when it happens) please please think hard about new manager don't go for cheap go for quality,you get what you pay for.
And I hope the players remember what PDC said once in his press conference "this club will be nothing without me "
Now wouldn't promotion seem a bit sweeter if we got it now ? coymr
Stratton Red
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12:26pm Thu 21 Feb 13
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JFH - NO
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BROWN - Yes (contract only until end of season)
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Gary Johnson not worth a shout?
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Personally get someone in interim and then look for a young rookie manager - e.g. Martin Keown, Ryan Giggs (unlikely but may get some ManUre rats through the turnstiles)
chrystovski
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12:39pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Always red wrote:Spot on!!!
I know we are all entitled to our opinion but the bring back Paolo brigade are doing my head in. He's done the dirty on us the same as Hoddle did. Swindon Town looked after Pdc very well with all their backing and when things got a bit sticky he ran away & took all his team with him. Talk about toys & pram never mind all us supporters who have to watch all this from the side yet can do nothing ,but its our money that goes into the club season after season and we always seem to get screwed over after a good spell . Is it some kind of punishment of being a swindon fan ? So no I don't want Paolo back great while it lasted but let's lick our wounds & move on. Good luck to the new board (when it happens) please please think hard about new manager don't go for cheap go for quality,you get what you pay for. And I hope the players remember what PDC said once in his press conference "this club will be nothing without me " Now wouldn't promotion seem a bit sweeter if we got it now ? coymr
bearwoodred
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12:40pm Thu 21 Feb 13
hertz wrote:Stuart Pearce would be brilliant choice but cannot see him leaving the U21's
What about Stuart Pearce caretaker till end of season , he only has a part time job and lives just up the street .:0) . Just imagine you are just out of work manager , and you see a position for a thriving club with great support and perfect playing surface who just happen to be top of their league with barnd new board with ambition, or you see other vacancies in same division and achieve nothing . Paolo which one will you choose ?
Tomcat 1944
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12:45pm Thu 21 Feb 13
airman68
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12:51pm Thu 21 Feb 13
you read about it here first
put 2 and 2 together and get a bet on
Jon the red
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1:03pm Thu 21 Feb 13
the don69
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1:05pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:that wasn't an upset Den!that was an even money bet!remember my ol dad saying,when Sir Don gets the ball he'll cut through them like butter and score twice!it was a fait a ccompli!!!!!!!!
I see the Beeb are billing QPR's 1967 victory over WBA as the greatest League Cup upset ever. They're right of course - the mighty Town beating plucky little Arsenal two years later wasn't that big a deal.
StFc
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1:19pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Whos he visiting in the town?
stanharlands6shirt
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1:20pm Thu 21 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Smiled when I read this madterrier, but I think it probably went straight over many heads.
mike1990 wrote:The Neville Brothers??!!
How about the Neville Brothers?Gary as Manager and Phil player coach?or Giggs and Scholes?
I suppose they would add some soul to the club, and some rhythm to our style of play. But doubtless we would end up with the blues again.
Still you "tell it like it is", so that's all right.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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1:37pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:Someone like Johnson or even Mark Yates has got to be a better choice than someone untried like JFH. Both have done a good job on smaller budgets than they'd get at the Town (even if the new board are less keen to splash the cash than Wray was).
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Gary Johnson not worth a shout?
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Personally get someone in interim and then look for a young rookie manager - e.g. Martin Keown, Ryan Giggs (unlikely but may get some ManUre rats through the turnstiles)
If they want an interim manager then they should try for Adkins rather than someone with no track record and who's only bringing a good name. Plus someone like Giggs probably earns in a week what the Town could afford to pay him in a month (or probably even a year)
Pewsham Red
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2:30pm Thu 21 Feb 13
super reds wrote:Me too - it was a reference to his spray tan. Humour does not come across well on this site.
Pewsham Red wrote:Pewsham, 'Marmite character' would say to me, 'you either love him or hate him'
stfclondon wrote:Agreed. Butcher would be decent shout. Not so enamoured by Brown. Presumably, by 'marmite' I assume you mean he looks like he's covered in it.
Butcher would be a very good choice.
Brown did brilliantly with Hull but is a bit of a 'Marmite' character.
Hasselbaink would be a gamble, but those have paid off for us in the past.
Adkins is still my first choice, although I don't know how realistic that is.
Adkins would be my first choice too.
madterrier
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2:42pm Thu 21 Feb 13
alchafreds
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4:37pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Jon the red wrote:yep mine too, every body loved the fact he done what he wanted said what he wanted,now it goes against the grain
Hang on - i'm just merely saying i felt Paolo would take us to the championship after being rock bottom 2 years ago and i don't want any muppet manager in. In my opinion he's been the best manager we have had in years. My opinion ok.
the club let him down as they have let us down Paolo put bums on seats and brought people back to the cc .
can only see attendances falling from here though i hope im wrong
Robin of Andover
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4:58pm Thu 21 Feb 13
supersaver
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5:18pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Appoint a manager until the end of the season and see where we are.
If the person appointed wants the job that much they would surely agree to this.
swwindon61uk
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5:33pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Just hope to many would give his assistant Malpass to much of a hard time.
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5:47pm Thu 21 Feb 13
swwindon61uk
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5:47pm Thu 21 Feb 13
sagadude wrote:He has, i have watched ICT a few times on TV and they play some nice football but we have better players.
Excellent choice. He has done a great job with Inverness CT.
Also if he was to finish of PDC's work and take us up, he is less likely to be headhunted or leave us, apart from maybe Ipswich?
Getting ICT to 2nd in the SPL is a great achievement.
swwindon61uk
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5:50pm Thu 21 Feb 13
glasred wrote:I have this at the back of my mind also.
Wait until the takeover is completed and then we will hear from PDC...all is quiet because no one can speak...except PDC could speak now if he wanted to..if he REALLY has cut and run from this club...so why no speach from him on Sky or BBC?....He may well be waiting in the wings for the new owners to take the helm....I find it hard to beleive that PDC will walk away from STFC now,with all his hard work showing us top of the table.
A long shot some may say,but I dont think we have heard the last of PDC at STFC!!
Now maybe even more so Mr.Gold has said he still wants big Sam.
Amazing just how many names out there really isn't it/
Pewsham Red
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5:55pm Thu 21 Feb 13
supersaver wrote:Not sure the two are compatible. With 14 games to go and top of the league I don't think we can hang about with the next appointment.
Miller and Ward was the right move and we (The Board) must not rush into an appointment, however with promotion so close they need to give it utmost priority.
Appoint a manager until the end of the season and see where we are.
If the person appointed wants the job that much they would surely agree to this.
I think we need someone in fairly quickly to keep the momentum going, presumably on a short term deal.
If it was the summer we could take our time, knowing what division we would be in, but if we dither now it could be too late.
Pewsham Red
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5:57pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:I quite like the thought of Mark Yates, but reckon Johnson would rather stay put for now - Yeovil are a bit more stable than us. Got a pretty good record at this level though.
Stratton Red wrote:Someone like Johnson or even Mark Yates has got to be a better choice than someone untried like JFH. Both have done a good job on smaller budgets than they'd get at the Town (even if the new board are less keen to splash the cash than Wray was).
Butcher - NO
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JFH - NO
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BROWN - Yes (contract only until end of season)
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Gary Johnson not worth a shout?
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Personally get someone in interim and then look for a young rookie manager - e.g. Martin Keown, Ryan Giggs (unlikely but may get some ManUre rats through the turnstiles)
If they want an interim manager then they should try for Adkins rather than someone with no track record and who's only bringing a good name. Plus someone like Giggs probably earns in a week what the Town could afford to pay him in a month (or probably even a year)
pcowley
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6:32pm Thu 21 Feb 13
leader1111
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6:43pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Youth development is good for fee generation or eventual first team spot but not as a way to save money and go nowhere as a result.
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7:03pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Farteaboy wrote:Skippy being the bush kangeroo, saw plenty in NSW last year.
I hope these names are pure speculation. None of the ones mentioned so far fill me with enthusiasm. Butcher had a short spell managing Sydney FC down here and he was sacked from that gig after not cutting the mustard. Adkins would be great-I know he's done bigger things but it wasnt that long ago that he was a lower league manager, Doubt we could afford his salary though. Personally I'm disappointed Skippy hasnt been put in charge for Saturday. He deserves a go. Great club man.
Zippy being Paul Bodin.
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7:04pm Thu 21 Feb 13
kevkirky
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stfc2012 says...
6:07am Thu 21 Feb 13