SWINDON TOWN: Former coaches wait on wages

5:23pm Thursday 7th March 2013 in Sport

UNPAID: Fabrizio Piccareta UNPAID: Fabrizio Piccareta

SWINDON Town's former assistant boss Fabrizio Piccareta has revealed he and other members of Paolo Di Canio's coaching staff are owed overdue wages by the club.

Piccareta told BBC Sport that the club's new owners had promised all outstanding money would be paid by the end of February after Di Canio's staff resigned in the aftermath of the 3-1 win at Tranmere on February 19.

"We have received nothing," said Piccareta.

"We worked until the day we resigned publically. We met (general manager) Steve Murrall and were t)old that on the last day of February we would have been paid but we have not heard anything.

"The new consortium say they want to make incredible stuff for Swindon, but they must end any outstanding situations.

"We gave back all out stuff, mobile phones, laptops etc, and were then told we would be paid soon, but so far we have not received anything."

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Brainy_G93 says...
5:26pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Who cares? Don't pay them.

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Oi Den! says...
5:29pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Brainy_G93 wrote:
Who cares? Don't pay them.
Is that really the sort of club we should be?

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swwindon61uk says...
5:32pm Thu 7 Mar 13

So if you resign you get paid?
Of course they would be paid for work done until they resigned.

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Rebel_phish says...
5:33pm Thu 7 Mar 13

If any departure is done amicably, ie hand in notice, work notice and then say thanks goodbye, then all payemts are paid on the day of departure.Well thats the way I've done it in the past.

Resign, walk out, leave employers in the lurch, then expect to be messed about. It may not be right, but again, thats the way I've done it.

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swwindon61uk says...
5:34pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Just another little worry which i am sure there is nothing to worry about!
I think!!

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swwindon61uk says...
5:36pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Will be interesting to see what the terms of resignation are?

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DarrenSTFCRomain says...
5:39pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Rebel_phish wrote:
If any departure is done amicably, ie hand in notice, work notice and then say thanks goodbye, then all payemts are paid on the day of departure.Well thats the way I've done it in the past. Resign, walk out, leave employers in the lurch, then expect to be messed about. It may not be right, but again, thats the way I've done it.
But then again 250k is a lot of money to find when your trying to sort out other important matters so the club can operate

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Guv says...
5:39pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....

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BournemouthRobin says...
5:42pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
Not you again......any relation to AFCB4death by chance???

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Steve. Brentford says...
5:55pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
And as if by magic a little shop keeper does appear.or is it nostradamus.

Why cant they just leave us to wallow in our misery in peace Tccchhh.

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BournemouthRobin says...
6:02pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
And as if by magic a little shop keeper does appear.or is it nostradamus.

Why cant they just leave us to wallow in our misery in peace Tccchhh.
Ha ha - I used to love that program when I was a nipper Steve - can't believe they only made 12 of them - Mr Ben - live fast die young !?!?!

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Brainy_G93 says...
6:07pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
Who cares? Don't pay them.
Is that really the sort of club we should be?
Yes I agree, but aren't we just getting a bit fed up with stuff? Why do we need to know, can't they just sort it out between them without the press getting involved?

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EastleazeRed says...
6:09pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Will this ever end ?

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cueball says...
6:11pm Thu 7 Mar 13

I wouldn't pay them either. They had no justifiable reason to walk out except for italian hotheadedness. yes they served the club well but I feel left the club in the lurch at a time they needed a bit of leadership!! oh forgot Italians dont do leadership well!!

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super reds says...
6:21pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
I remember someone saying at a delicate stage in the takeover negotiations that they couldn't say too much as they didn't want to blow their cover but would reveal who they were as soon as the takeover was sorted. Well the takeover been sorted for weeks now & still you hide behind the identity of 'Guv' which says a couple of things really, 1. You know jack sh1t & 2. You are a FRAUD

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BournemouthRobin says...
6:27pm Thu 7 Mar 13

super reds wrote:
Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
I remember someone saying at a delicate stage in the takeover negotiations that they couldn't say too much as they didn't want to blow their cover but would reveal who they were as soon as the takeover was sorted. Well the takeover been sorted for weeks now & still you hide behind the identity of 'Guv' which says a couple of things really, 1. You know jack sh1t & 2. You are a FRAUD
He has a point Guv - well two actually!!

Come on, spill the beans then, or will you just come up with your usual which just confirms that Super Reds is correct?

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KojaktheWarg says...
6:30pm Thu 7 Mar 13

What we on the street see is a coaching team simply walk out a day after a game. I respect their reasoning but it would have been nice if they had work a little longer whilst the dust from the takeover settle. It sort of leaves the club with a problem if they resign overnight. If they get in new staff straight away, presumably the club are then paying two lots of wages (assuming holiday pay is due to the departing group) ? And this at a time when money is tight. Perhaps this is how football contracts are written - ie no requirement to give a notice period. I dont know.

What is acceptable of course is that the new owners need to prioritise and examine payments that are due, and this in itself causes a delay as they already have a zillion documents to sort out after a takeover.

So personally, I am not surprised of delays.

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sp1dersw3b says...
6:32pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Depending on their contracts they should be paid up to at least the date of resignation - 19th or 20th February - IMO only.

Didn't someone here once suggest the backroom staff's salaries were paid direct from/via PDC?

Too many stories like this are about at the moment, all the bills need to be cleared now before the FL regain their interest in STFC, unless they already have!

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Oi Den! says...
6:36pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Brainy_G93 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
Who cares? Don't pay them.
Is that really the sort of club we should be?
Yes I agree, but aren't we just getting a bit fed up with stuff? Why do we need to know, can't they just sort it out between them without the press getting involved?
Yes, I think we're probably all fed up to the back teeth with it. But I'm glad we are getting to know about it.

The thing that puzzles me is that I would have expected the new owners to want to be seen hitting the ground running, i.e. showing us that they mean business by getting these things sorted out quickly. If there's a good reason for not paying these people, then why not tell us? And if there is a good reason for the other "financial issues" that prevent us signing players, why not tell us that too?

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London Red says...
6:52pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Always two sides to a story so will await to hear from the board before judging either way
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SM is there on Sat - I'm sure someone will raise this with him and we can hear what he has to say

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oldtownred says...
6:56pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Oh dear, getting a little hard up are we? Welcome to the fan's world!!
I wondered when Team Italia walked out with such small loyalty and after such bad advice from their wonderful agent, whether they would walk into another job.
My thoughts then and now are NO!
First they walk out. Then they threaten legal action. Now they complain publically trying to stir things up.
Pay them off then it's - Ciao e buona fortuna - to them and good riddance from me.
And as for Mr PS, the amazing agent, seems like the bridges have been burnt and chickens will come home to roost and roost and roost, cos not many are going to take a punt on this flapping flock for sure.

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Steve. Brentford says...
7:03pm Thu 7 Mar 13

BournemouthRobin wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
And as if by magic a little shop keeper does appear.or is it nostradamus.

Why cant they just leave us to wallow in our misery in peace Tccchhh.
Ha ha - I used to love that program when I was a nipper Steve - can't believe they only made 12 of them - Mr Ben - live fast die young !?!?!
Yeah i vaguely remember him ;o) must stop re-quoting,people moan you know!

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Oi Den! says...
7:07pm Thu 7 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
Always two sides to a story so will await to hear from the board before judging either way
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SM is there on Sat - I'm sure someone will raise this with him and we can hear what he has to say
Agree LR. It would be wrong to judge anyone before the club has spoken about it. But there's judging and there's feeling uneasy. And some of us feel uneasy.

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Last step says...
7:53pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Can't see any reason why they shouldn't be paid for the work they've done. As I said on the other thread- hopefully this is just an oversight that will get sorted asap.

This sort of stuff really isn't a good advert for the club.

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sw1ndon says...
7:54pm Thu 7 Mar 13

The future might be secure but it will most probably be run on a shoestring.

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TheDukeOfBanbury says...
7:58pm Thu 7 Mar 13

BournemouthRobin wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Guv wrote: Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
And as if by magic a little shop keeper does appear.or is it nostradamus. Why cant they just leave us to wallow in our misery in peace Tccchhh.
Ha ha - I used to love that program when I was a nipper Steve - can't believe they only made 12 of them - Mr Ben - live fast die young !?!?!
Meanwhile in Festive Road......:)

back comes Guv.

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TheDukeOfBanbury says...
8:01pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
How's "your Mate" Matt Ritchie these days ?

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BournemouthRobin says...
8:08pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
BournemouthRobin wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Guv wrote:
Still haven't paid Shrewsbury or a certain Mr Martin from Norwich yet! Now this... It's about time Jed started getting these cheques signed unless, oh yes, of course....
And as if by magic a little shop keeper does appear.or is it nostradamus.

Why cant they just leave us to wallow in our misery in peace Tccchhh.
Ha ha - I used to love that program when I was a nipper Steve - can't believe they only made 12 of them - Mr Ben - live fast die young !?!?!
Yeah i vaguely remember him ;o) must stop re-quoting,people moan you know!
ha ha - i know mate, and some of us can't use a, what are they, smart phones??? Do they call them smart to make ludites like me look stupid????

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Di kanny oh says...
8:33pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Pay your over due wages what when yer mate wants to sue the club sod off I say. Never walked straight into another job so ahh well lets go and chase STFC for our wages when we walked out and left the club in the lurch well you can ferkin wait sunshine.

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Psychedelic Syd says...
8:51pm Thu 7 Mar 13

We just need to pay up and forget about them, deduct the broken locks money and have done with it. Need to close the whole chapter, meet our moral obligations and move on. I know they walked out but two wrongs don't make a right. They should be paid up until the time they left as anyone else would expect and indeed be legally entitled too.

It is of concern however that these financial niggles are cropping up - it bodes ill for us managing to get any loan players in when there's stuff like this kicking off and Shrewsbury claiming unpaid money. Surely the new guys can stump up what must be small beer when they are talking about a budget of £4.5m for Kevin M? It is mighty strange, hope they act quickly to settle our debts - we can do without that kind of reputation. I share Den's unease; this shouldn't be happening.

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Oi Den! says...
9:05pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Syd, I don't think there were any broken locks - they used keys and codes. That's why the locks and codes were changed. I think a certain dread hand has its fingerprints all over the departure of PDC and his staff - and it amounts to poor advice.

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The Black Hand says...
9:28pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid.
Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting.
If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed

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therock4u says...
9:36pm Thu 7 Mar 13

I think that the situation has 2 questions.

When he/they resigned who was due to be paying their wages,as Jed nogotiated a deal for PDC,s Friday to Mondays 5pm deadline.

So before the renegotiated contract, who was responsible for their wages???

One thing's certain,he doesnt like being out of the limelight.

Has any club come running for his services???

Still don't know why some of you are pressing the panic button for loan signings, as jed said KMAC will wait at least a week to evalute his new team. Then its up to KMAC to decide if any new loan players might be needed.

Guv.

You must tell them who you are,as i'm not letting on. Usual at the Sun Inn after the match on saturday.
Someone might just twig on who Guv really is, but it's not easy.
Big surprise coming when you have revealed all.

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stfc-manila says...
9:56pm Thu 7 Mar 13

If they don't want to stir trouble for the Club, then why are they bleating to the BBC about a matter that they should deal directly with the Club over?
If STFC owe them, then talk to them to find out what the delay is about.
Typical of PDC's lot - just want to get their names in the press and drag us to the gutter with them.
I sincerely hope none of them get another job in the English football leagues as they don't deserve it!

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DarrenSTFCRomain says...
9:59pm Thu 7 Mar 13

The Black Hand wrote:
Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid. Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting. If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed
2 Me black should be the one that has to pay the
italians...

As Jed and Co never owned STFC under italians

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35 year fan says...
10:17pm Thu 7 Mar 13

The Black Hand wrote:
Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid.
Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting.
If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed
unless i am mistaken black said the club was for sale for £1.

have the new board done a single thing yet that suggests they have ANY money?

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Oi Den! says...
10:20pm Thu 7 Mar 13

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
The Black Hand wrote:
Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid. Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting. If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed
2 Me black should be the one that has to pay the
italians...

As Jed and Co never owned STFC under italians
Daz, it's the club that employed them, so it's the club that has to deal with it. It doesn't matter who the owners are/were. What if the club was to receive an unexpected cash windfall related to the Black days? We wouldn't want it passed on to the old owners. We'd say "thanks very much" and stick it in the bank.

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BournemouthRobin says...
10:30pm Thu 7 Mar 13

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
The Black Hand wrote:
Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid. Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting. If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed
2 Me black should be the one that has to pay the
italians...

As Jed and Co never owned STFC under italians
Agree with that

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perth red says...
1:24am Fri 8 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
The Black Hand wrote:
Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid. Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting. If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed
2 Me black should be the one that has to pay the
italians...

As Jed and Co never owned STFC under italians
Daz, it's the club that employed them, so it's the club that has to deal with it. It doesn't matter who the owners are/were. What if the club was to receive an unexpected cash windfall related to the Black days? We wouldn't want it passed on to the old owners. We'd say "thanks very much" and stick it in the bank.
Agreed. What's more the manner of their departure was to say the least "unusual". I wouldn't be surprised if Jed isn't having the contracts examined by some lawyers before paying anything.

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SirReg says...
5:59am Fri 8 Mar 13

It all depends on the contracts. If they were required to give notice and didn't do so, they might be owed nothing. Indeed, they might owe the club money in lieu of notice. They behaved pretty shabbily, so who knows?

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Chish and Fips says...
7:16am Fri 8 Mar 13

35 year fan wrote:
The Black Hand wrote:
Hmmm, firstly i think they should be paid,they were employed and worked till resignation.Secondly the outstanding loan monies due should be paid.
Money issues still dominating the club Q&A on Saturday should be intresting.
If i was owed moy for work i had done i'd be miffed
unless i am mistaken black said the club was for sale for £1.

have the new board done a single thing yet that suggests they have ANY money?
I think the words you are looking for - is prudent .....they are not going to willy nilly pay off each and every bod until they are sure who what and where...
if a bill landed on your mat at home and you didn't know the reason I bet you'd check the facts before paying - if not more fool you - more fool you for supporting Poxford too... FOUR nil defeat at home... ouch !!!

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stfcpaul says...
7:25am Fri 8 Mar 13

Sing for your money you deserting rats, follow the pied piper back to Italy and be done with you all!
p.s see you in Fratellos next week!

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buckobassettboy says...
12:43pm Fri 8 Mar 13

I re-iterate,this club has been blighted with bad management for as long as I can remember.I had doubts about this lot coming in and it is apparent that none of them have a clue in respect of their liabilities.
Irrespective of the excessive wages-you would have thought that the first thing they would have done is to pay PDC and CO what they are due and say au revoir,thus avoiding any more adverse.Oh no,these chancers,like many gone before have yet to convince me they are financially sound and astute enough to take over the club.My advice to them is to pay what is owed before making budget promises to the manager.Look in the accounts,wages and salaries and sort it.If it is unclear then sack the accounts office.They are employed to make sure it is clear.Personally I think there is a huge deficit-much larger than we are led to believe and more S**t about to drop on SN1.
Great result last week and Brentford is a crunch game.COYR'S

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