MacDonald still eyes automatic promotion (From Swindon Advertiser)

Jets there'd wrote:
Does the new Board want promotion?

Would a "near miss" in the play offs suit the Board's business objectives better?

I had my season ticket renewal come through last week & yet as fans we don't know what the Board REALLY want.

I'm beginning to doubt if they want promotion but rather a cheaper rebuild job.

I hope I'm wrong as its a shame for the fans & players.

It seems as if the players are missing the previous manager's discipline & that's not helping on the pitch.

Jets there'd wrote:
Does the new Board want promotion? Would a "near miss" in the play offs suit the Board's business objectives better? I had my season ticket renewal come through last week & yet as fans we don't know what the Board REALLY want. I'm beginning to doubt if they want promotion but rather a cheaper rebuild job. I hope I'm wrong as its a shame for the fans & players. It seems as if the players are missing the previous manager's discipline & that's not helping on the pitch.

ctown_red wrote:
if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

fredi wrote:
Apart from Wes, and possibly Simon Ferry, we have an average league one squad in what is a very poor league one. Di Canio's emphasis on fitness, discipline and attention to detail on the opposition got us to the top of the league and would have got us promoted but huge investment would have been needed just to survive at the next level. The new board have no intention of spending any money on the club either this season or next (when you talk about emphasis on youth and community this is a polite way of saying ambition to rise up the leagues is no longer the priority). We have to be realistic - we are now to be run with a small local football club mentality - like any business without real investment we will decline. Sadly, the greatest opportunity for many years to reach the Championship is being squandered.

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

ctown_red wrote:
if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

ctown_red wrote:
if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

SPOT ON MATE...

Some fans need to realise that we are a very small team with small crowds...

But like you i will be there next season NO MATTER WHAT LEAGUE

Pottered wrote:
So many negative comments regarding 'New Board and New Manager' give them a chance to set their marker, they saved our club from Administration (again) when Black pulled out his funding then replaced the void left when 'PDC deserted' his position leaving us supporters who worshipped him with out any of his so called passion being evident. Forget living in the past this is the future with Jed and Kevin wether you like it or not, I for one give my full support to them and now await all the negative posters to comment .....

mancrobin wrote:
Let's give McDonald a chance. This is his third game in charge and he is still looking at the team and system he wants to play. He is also on the verge of bringing in a few new faces.

Logic tells me there's no rush to go up but the opportunity is clearly there and we would be mad not to make the most of it.

Pottered wrote:
So many negative comments regarding 'New Board and New Manager' give them a chance to set their marker, they saved our club from Administration (again) when Black pulled out his funding then replaced the void left when 'PDC deserted' his position leaving us supporters who worshipped him with out any of his so called passion being evident. Forget living in the past this is the future with Jed and Kevin wether you like it or not, I for one give my full support to them and now await all the negative posters to comment .....

HOOKEY wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

ctown_red wrote: if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

SPOT ON MATE... Some fans need to realise that we are a very small team with small crowds... But like you i will be there next season NO MATTER WHAT LEAGUE

Swansea and Reading,were smaller clubs than us.just goes to show it dont take long to become big club both them clubs was getting smaller crowds than us when they was in the lower div,

oncearedalwaysared wrote:
If the lodging of the £1.2 million was part fo the FL terms to approve the takeover then the new Board has been aware of it for at least a month. Whilst I accept no-one keeps that sort of money in loose change, I still feel it confirms most people's fears that collectively they simply do not have the money to sustain us. On this basis, if they did buy Black's shares for a pound, we could have done the same, as it is hard to see where any other money has been spent since.

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

old town robin wrote:

mancrobin wrote: Let's give McDonald a chance. This is his third game in charge and he is still looking at the team and system he wants to play. He is also on the verge of bringing in a few new faces. Logic tells me there's no rush to go up but the opportunity is clearly there and we would be mad not to make the most of it.

Agree, he has to be given the chance and by end of season we will see how he's done. First impressions mean a lot and as a manager I'm not impressed with his nous and tactics so far. I think Kev could be another Malpas that was brought in on the cheap, very good coach, nice man, maybe too nice, the most successful managers like Ferguson, Clough and even Paolo are nasty and ruthless and expect their players to be the same. maybe the loanees coming in will make the difference, there will be huge vote of confidence by the end of month from season ticket renewals, can only see this new board taking us backwards I'm afraid and ticket sales will reflect that

oncearedalwaysared wrote:
If the lodging of the £1.2 million was part fo the FL terms to approve the takeover then the new Board has been aware of it for at least a month. Whilst I accept no-one keeps that sort of money in loose change, I still feel it confirms most people's fears that collectively they simply do not have the money to sustain us. On this basis, if they did buy Black's shares for a pound, we could have done the same, as it is hard to see where any other money has been spent since.

RogerJ1969 wrote:

HOOKEY wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

ctown_red wrote: if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

SPOT ON MATE... Some fans need to realise that we are a very small team with small crowds... But like you i will be there next season NO MATTER WHAT LEAGUE

Swansea and Reading,were smaller clubs than us.just goes to show it dont take long to become big club both them clubs was getting smaller crowds than us when they was in the lower div,

Money, Money, Money.

who am i wrote:

fredi wrote: Apart from Wes, and possibly Simon Ferry, we have an average league one squad in what is a very poor league one. Di Canio's emphasis on fitness, discipline and attention to detail on the opposition got us to the top of the league and would have got us promoted but huge investment would have been needed just to survive at the next level. The new board have no intention of spending any money on the club either this season or next (when you talk about emphasis on youth and community this is a polite way of saying ambition to rise up the leagues is no longer the priority). We have to be realistic - we are now to be run with a small local football club mentality - like any business without real investment we will decline. Sadly, the greatest opportunity for many years to reach the Championship is being squandered.

Totally agree. And Sam can you please find some new friends instead of your other new friends on the board as they are spinning you a yarn with reference too embargo. Why don't you stop buttering up too jed and his crew and start doing some digging as too why it's taking over three weeks for this embargo to be lifted. You come on here every day for the last three weeks saying its the advers understanding that the embargo will be lifted today. Well stop listening too jed and do some investigation.

fredi wrote:
Apart from Wes, and possibly Simon Ferry, we have an average league one squad in what is a very poor league one. Di Canio's emphasis on fitness, discipline and attention to detail on the opposition got us to the top of the league and would have got us promoted but huge investment would have been needed just to survive at the next level. The new board have no intention of spending any money on the club either this season or next (when you talk about emphasis on youth and community this is a polite way of saying ambition to rise up the leagues is no longer the priority). We have to be realistic - we are now to be run with a small local football club mentality - like any business without real investment we will decline. Sadly, the greatest opportunity for many years to reach the Championship is being squandered.

Chish and Fips wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Good sensible approach and level headed explanation there Wiz....hopefully it won't be lost on some of the impatient ones.

Had to post my opinion, although our friend JB will have some thoughts on this - bless him ...mind you, his recent post was direct and to the point and very good in my opinion with regards to basically we are not good enough.

stfcphil wrote:
Anybody considering NOT renewing their season tickets, should get back to supporting Chelsea or Man Utd like all the other plastics. If you are a true fan, you accept what life throws at you, and get on with it. We had 2 choices, this board or no club. If this board do not have a single penny to spend, I will still support them, as they ultimately saved my club and gave us at least a fighting chance. I personally think Kmac is doing OK. We had lost 7 other games this season. Not sure you can blame him for those.

mancrobin wrote:
Let's give McDonald a chance. This is his third game in charge and he is still looking at the team and system he wants to play. He is also on the verge of bringing in a few new faces.

Logic tells me there's no rush to go up but the opportunity is clearly there and we would be mad not to make the most of it.

ecklington wrote:

fredi wrote:
Apart from Wes, and possibly Simon Ferry, we have an average league one squad in what is a very poor league one. Di Canio's emphasis on fitness, discipline and attention to detail on the opposition got us to the top of the league and would have got us promoted but huge investment would have been needed just to survive at the next level. The new board have no intention of spending any money on the club either this season or next (when you talk about emphasis on youth and community this is a polite way of saying ambition to rise up the leagues is no longer the priority). We have to be realistic - we are now to be run with a small local football club mentality - like any business without real investment we will decline. Sadly, the greatest opportunity for many years to reach the Championship is being squandered.

Absolutely spot on. It's a shame about all the negativity, but facts are facts. It's obvious the Board are tin pot business men, and penniless. Trying to reach the Championship without sufficient investment to strengthen the squad will not take us there, let alone maintain us in the Championship.

How MacDonald keeps playing Flint, Williams and McEveley beats me. Wilson MK2 me thinks. I wish I could be more positive, but my initial enthusiasm has evaporated all too soon. We have been here before, with small time business men trying to run the club on a shoestring, whilst paying themselves handsomely, we know where that got us. Not saying Jed & Co will be bleeding the Club dry, 'cause it's dry to begin with! Just my opinion, as everyone entitled to theirs. Wish it was different.

swwindon61uk wrote:

mancrobin wrote:
Let's give McDonald a chance. This is his third game in charge and he is still looking at the team and system he wants to play. He is also on the verge of bringing in a few new faces.

Logic tells me there's no rush to go up but the opportunity is clearly there and we would be mad not to make the most of it.

Agreed,i will judge MacDonald when he has his own team,which he can do big time next season with a lot of players out of contract at the end of the season.
I must admit i am beginning to think PDC thought he could go no further with our current squad and got out when we were at the "top£ as he has told us already.

ecklington wrote:

fredi wrote:
Apart from Wes, and possibly Simon Ferry, we have an average league one squad in what is a very poor league one. Di Canio's emphasis on fitness, discipline and attention to detail on the opposition got us to the top of the league and would have got us promoted but huge investment would have been needed just to survive at the next level. The new board have no intention of spending any money on the club either this season or next (when you talk about emphasis on youth and community this is a polite way of saying ambition to rise up the leagues is no longer the priority). We have to be realistic - we are now to be run with a small local football club mentality - like any business without real investment we will decline. Sadly, the greatest opportunity for many years to reach the Championship is being squandered.

Absolutely spot on. It's a shame about all the negativity, but facts are facts. It's obvious the Board are tin pot business men, and penniless. Trying to reach the Championship without sufficient investment to strengthen the squad will not take us there, let alone maintain us in the Championship.

How MacDonald keeps playing Flint, Williams and McEveley beats me. Wilson MK2 me thinks. I wish I could be more positive, but my initial enthusiasm has evaporated all too soon. We have been here before, with small time business men trying to run the club on a shoestring, whilst paying themselves handsomely, we know where that got us. Not saying Jed & Co will be bleeding the Club dry, 'cause it's dry to begin with! Just my opinion, as everyone entitled to theirs. Wish it was different.

LeGod wrote:
yes all very well saying judge him on his own team but this team was doing well with the best defensive record in the league and like fort knox to break open now all of a sudden we are letting in two goals a game and playing players out of position.
We would not have dropped 5 points from winning positions before this.

There seems to be no charisma behind his interviews or any passion and i have this feeling unless he puts it right and gets the formation right we wont be going anywhere.

LeGod wrote:
yes all very well saying judge him on his own team but this team was doing well with the best defensive record in the league and like fort knox to break open now all of a sudden we are letting in two goals a game and playing players out of position.
We would not have dropped 5 points from winning positions before this.

There seems to be no charisma behind his interviews or any passion and i have this feeling unless he puts it right and gets the formation right we wont be going anywhere.

Stilloyal wrote:
The real concern is never getting past the level we are at now. According to Fitton (before he left) the Championship will become Premier league two with no promotion or relegation to league one.
This is a totally unfair scenario and I'd hate for us to remain forever at L 1 or L 2.
The three year plan was a real must for ultimately this reason, if we can't get to the championship in the next couple of years then we'll always be little Swindon Town who have the possibility of being occasional giantkillers in cup competitions.
Personally I don't feel we are now going anywhere this season which is a bl00dy shame.
Defence needs sorting , Flint out and Devera in. Midfield is currently unbalanced when we play 4-4-2 with Robbo , Millar, Macca and Ferry, one of the latter three has to make way for a proper winger. I know we played five in midfield last night but it only partially worked, once again no goals from the front. However Ferry seems to be on a roll :-).
New blood is urgently required, the manager has a week to sort out a balanced and effective formation or we could be mid table in April.
I'm not being negative just realistic, these are my observations and my opinion but I do expect many to disagree.

P.S Fitton made his comments about premier L 1 & L 2 at his last AGM.

Robinonfire wrote:
We need 2 new forwards now....Collins and Williams will never work.

Come on del boy give the Manager some dosh..thats if you wont to go up.

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

ecklington wrote:

LeGod wrote:
yes all very well saying judge him on his own team but this team was doing well with the best defensive record in the league and like fort knox to break open now all of a sudden we are letting in two goals a game and playing players out of position.
We would not have dropped 5 points from winning positions before this.

There seems to be no charisma behind his interviews or any passion and i have this feeling unless he puts it right and gets the formation right we wont be going anywhere.

Quote from Mowey33
"It is clear that we DO NOT have the boards backing or ambition, Im Sorry but K Mac does not have the backing or ambition either, On the radio He said that they had said in the team talk that they had talked about brentfords breakaway attacks yet We let them do it and score 2 goals which cost us 3 points from it then said he couldn't fathom why we lost. He wasn't angry had no passion in his voice and virtually said he was settled for a play off place. To me it is clear This board and manager have no ambition".

He couldn't fathom why we lost, says it all......

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

ctown_red wrote:
One thing i am really confused about is the amount of negativity around especially at home games, here and social media. We are in the playoff positions and touching distance of autos. Kev Mac has been in charge for 3 games and all 3 been inpressed with, made a few more errors than previous regime at the back mainly but overall looks very promising. if we dont go up we dont go up and build for next season. Onwards and upwards!

Cookie43 wrote:
Swindon town have been a part of my life for over 30 years in fact I have loved Swindon longer than I have my wife ( do not tell her I said that ).
I will hopefully be watching for another 30 odd years. Win loose or draw I will be there whoever owns the club or manages the club or who plays for the club, why? Because they are my club!!
As always I was there last night and it was I admit very frustrating but hey that's football I am sure somewhere across the leagues this weekend teams will dominate matches and loose and fans will be saying how did we loose that?. Some of the negativity pains me some of the posts infuriate me but we all have an opinion mine is as long as I have my club whatever league they are in I will support my club and be thankful I have a club to support. Going up would be amazing and I am sure there are twists and turns yet we are 4th which after what has happened this season is quite simply a fantastic effort !!
Roll on next week as the Red army moves into Somerset
Come on u Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!

SouthcoastRed wrote:

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

For what it's worth, here's my opinion;

- k-mac is a well respected coach ( yes coach) in the game. He's respected for a reason. With a transfer embargo still in place he hasn't yet had the opportunity to make his mark on the team. With 12 games left when the appointment was made, the last thing we needed was someone to do a complete overhaul - he's working with the current team to build on what we've already achieved. The close season is the time for revolution.

- I had the pleasure of meeting a few board members on Saturday (I'm not doing a 'guv') - they are desperate for promotion this year - highlighting that if we don't get it, some of our current crop of players will need to go. The money from just making the playoffs and not succeeding is insignificant compared to gaining proportion.

- the gulf between championship and div 1 is great , but not insurmountable, we've beaten champ opposition in the last few seasons with ease, and prem clubs too. Also, with promotion we'd attract bigger gates and better sponsorship/tv money to build a squad more appropriate for the league.

- last night we played well for the majority of the game. We were beaten away by an in-form team... This is not a capitulation! We're well placed.

- was fitness an issue last night? We lost the whole of our backroom staff a few weeks ago including our fitness coach...? Is the new guy up to it?

- who knows what might happen the minute the transfer embargo is lifted??

Get behind the manager, the team, and the new board for this promotion push. Coyr's

ctown_red wrote:
if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

LeGod wrote:
i'm telling you now youth will be the way forward this club will go and that is why KM is here dont be surprised if alot of players out of contract in the summer leave.
Not being negative but that is how it is going to be.

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
We need to wake up and smell the coffee, play offs could be a struggle if we keep this up... we are in a shocking run of form.

Oi Den! wrote:
Good post Syd - but I think "Maybe we will just have to wait until next season..." is a tad optimistic. If we don't go up this season, there has to be every chance will lose Foderingham and Ferry. How much longer will they put up wth playing at this level?

Without some new recruits, the current squad is not good enough. I would love to be proved wrong but can't see any reason to believe it will improve over the summer.

I'll be renewing my season ticket though.

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

burley01rs wrote:
I cannot believe what some people write.
Read Nick Watkins final statement to get a grip on reality.

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:
Swindon town have been a part of my life for over 30 years in fact I have loved Swindon longer than I have my wife ( do not tell her I said that ).
I will hopefully be watching for another 30 odd years. Win loose or draw I will be there whoever owns the club or manages the club or who plays for the club, why? Because they are my club!!
As always I was there last night and it was I admit very frustrating but hey that's football I am sure somewhere across the leagues this weekend teams will dominate matches and loose and fans will be saying how did we loose that?. Some of the negativity pains me some of the posts infuriate me but we all have an opinion mine is as long as I have my club whatever league they are in I will support my club and be thankful I have a club to support. Going up would be amazing and I am sure there are twists and turns yet we are 4th which after what has happened this season is quite simply a fantastic effort !!
Roll on next week as the Red army moves into Somerset
Come on u Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great post cookie!yes it hurt like hell last night!but that's football,we should have been out of sight by 70 mins and when you miss your chances you get punished,I've said all season we needed a goalscorer,we've missed countless chances this season and with a decent striker,we would have had one foot in the championship,Jed assured me the embargo will be lifted this week and we will be signing players this week!also the club is in fantastic shape financially,so unless he's a liar,that's good enough for me!if Jed and his team had not taken over,we would now be in ADMIN and looking forward to a Huge points deduction (much more than 10 points)we would playing div2 football next season(or worse)so stop moaning and support your club!if you need a moan pick on Wilma and Joan LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Black Hand wrote:
Black Smoke emerges from the chimney of the Vatican's Sistine Chapel indicating that the Football League have yet to lift the Embargo on STFC

mike1990 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:
Swindon town have been a part of my life for over 30 years in fact I have loved Swindon longer than I have my wife ( do not tell her I said that ).
I will hopefully be watching for another 30 odd years. Win loose or draw I will be there whoever owns the club or manages the club or who plays for the club, why? Because they are my club!!
As always I was there last night and it was I admit very frustrating but hey that's football I am sure somewhere across the leagues this weekend teams will dominate matches and loose and fans will be saying how did we loose that?. Some of the negativity pains me some of the posts infuriate me but we all have an opinion mine is as long as I have my club whatever league they are in I will support my club and be thankful I have a club to support. Going up would be amazing and I am sure there are twists and turns yet we are 4th which after what has happened this season is quite simply a fantastic effort !!
Roll on next week as the Red army moves into Somerset
Come on u Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great post cookie!yes it hurt like hell last night!but that's football,we should have been out of sight by 70 mins and when you miss your chances you get punished,I've said all season we needed a goalscorer,we've missed countless chances this season and with a decent striker,we would have had one foot in the championship,Jed assured me the embargo will be lifted this week and we will be signing players this week!also the club is in fantastic shape financially,so unless he's a liar,that's good enough for me!if Jed and his team had not taken over,we would now be in ADMIN and looking forward to a Huge points deduction (much more than 10 points)we would playing div2 football next season(or worse)so stop moaning and support your club!if you need a moan pick on Wilma and Joan LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Spot on Cookie and Don,lets get behind our club,but I blame PDC,because with all the players he brought in and with his huge budget,he never found a good striker who could finish,except the one he fell out with,who can finish,PDC got us out of league two,but that was nothing special with the huge budget he had from Black.glad to see the back of him,it was all about me,me,me,me and me I hope he goes to Reading and they go down and then struggle in the championship,they deserve that after sacking a good manager like McDermot,who's done a great job at a tiny club like Reading.

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the wizard wrote: Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point. In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned. We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out". Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time. There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it. Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them. As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

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FROM TODAY's SUN->

I Can take charge of the Royals



By CHARLIE WYETT and ANDREW DILLON

Published: 12th March 2013


Note the complete lack of of self confidence and belief - I'd have you back tomow my old son was and all!

PAOLO DI CANIO reckons he is ready to handle a Premier League job like Reading.

The out-of-work Italian coach is the favourite to succeed sacked Brian McDermott.

Di Canio, 44, led Swindon to the League Two title last season on around £500,000 a year before quitting in a row with the club last month.

He said: “I proved in League One and Two that I was the best manager, and I now feel I’m ready for the next level.

“I’m at a stage where I’m a Premier League or Championship manager.

“I’ve already proven my ability in League Two and League One, where there are many arrogant and average players. I was able to turn their mentality and help them become better footballers.

“You can imagine if I have the chance to do the same at the top level.

“I’ve only had success. That success proves the methodology we used was correct and that me and my coaching staff were completely right in the way we do things.”

Royals chiefs say no one has yet been approached to take over.


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Norfolk Red wrote:

Is that you Lovesey wrote: We need to wake up and smell the coffee, play offs could be a struggle if we keep this up... we are in a shocking run of form.

Lovesey, I couldn't agree more. The team needs freshening up, no one is doubting there ability, we just can't finish teams off. I was a big PDC supporter, but maybe his fitness regime was a tad too harsh, we look tired. I know things take time to sort out, but the embargo is now really biting, I am sure that the board have bigger things to sort out, but Jed saying "I leave that stuff to my laywers" doesn't fill the fans with confidence to renew season tickets or stomach new price increases. If we are really serious about going up, then give Kev the tools he needs to do the job. Otherwise, promotion is just a pipe dream. Sorry for the negative post, but I can see us throwing it all away again, and if we don't get promotion this year, I think it will be a long time before we achieve it again

swwindon61uk wrote:

Stilloyal wrote:
The real concern is never getting past the level we are at now. According to Fitton (before he left) the Championship will become Premier league two with no promotion or relegation to league one.
This is a totally unfair scenario and I'd hate for us to remain forever at L 1 or L 2.
The three year plan was a real must for ultimately this reason, if we can't get to the championship in the next couple of years then we'll always be little Swindon Town who have the possibility of being occasional giantkillers in cup competitions.
Personally I don't feel we are now going anywhere this season which is a bl00dy shame.
Defence needs sorting , Flint out and Devera in. Midfield is currently unbalanced when we play 4-4-2 with Robbo , Millar, Macca and Ferry, one of the latter three has to make way for a proper winger. I know we played five in midfield last night but it only partially worked, once again no goals from the front. However Ferry seems to be on a roll :-).
New blood is urgently required, the manager has a week to sort out a balanced and effective formation or we could be mid table in April.
I'm not being negative just realistic, these are my observations and my opinion but I do expect many to disagree.

P.S Fitton made his comments about premier L 1 & L 2 at his last AGM.

Good post Alan.

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

ecklington wrote:

LeGod wrote:
yes all very well saying judge him on his own team but this team was doing well with the best defensive record in the league and like fort knox to break open now all of a sudden we are letting in two goals a game and playing players out of position.
We would not have dropped 5 points from winning positions before this.

There seems to be no charisma behind his interviews or any passion and i have this feeling unless he puts it right and gets the formation right we wont be going anywhere.

Quote from Mowey33
"It is clear that we DO NOT have the boards backing or ambition, Im Sorry but K Mac does not have the backing or ambition either, On the radio He said that they had said in the team talk that they had talked about brentfords breakaway attacks yet We let them do it and score 2 goals which cost us 3 points from it then said he couldn't fathom why we lost. He wasn't angry had no passion in his voice and virtually said he was settled for a play off place. To me it is clear This board and manager have no ambition".

He couldn't fathom why we lost, says it all......

Med Red wrote:
Must admit that I'm slightly worried that KM might turn out to be Malpass MK 2..... both dour Jocks and both from Inverness I believe. I'd prefer someone with a bit of fire in their belly.

I wonder how KM appeared on Jeddy-boys radar? I can't help but wonder if Fitton might be one of the mystery investors..... surely not?????”

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Med,

Most people would be over the moon, were we to go up.

However, do we have the finances to cope against the Cardiff's, Leicester's and Leeds' of the league?

Those sides are bankrolled by people with LOTS of money (Cardiff are paying well over £20k a week). Can we realistically market ourselves to Championship standard players? £20,000 a week at a side that will be a guaranteed top five side in the league or a third of that at Swindon Town who would be favourites for relegation.

We got to the Premier League once, and what a nightmare that was! Tonked week in week out (I was eight at the time and remember it well). Do we want to go up, get our butts whipped 5-0 every week, and have the fans disenchanted?

I would far rather us stay in League 1, build our cash reserves up and go for youth as the way forward.

Other sides have over-stretched and have suffered. We need to find our level and then move forward. Going all out for promotion is great, but we have to be realistic in our aims and ambitions.

LeGod wrote:
i think what people are getting wound up about is the fact we keep being told we are coming out of the Embargo three weeks ago to date we are still in it SO WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ALL WE WANT IS THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS im fed up of all the people running our club filling us up with crap so how do you think we are meant to feel. If its not going to happen just be straight with us at least we all know. Should have been Monday this week then yesterday and now what??????

themoonraker wrote:

LeGod wrote:
i think what people are getting wound up about is the fact we keep being told we are coming out of the Embargo three weeks ago to date we are still in it SO WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ALL WE WANT IS THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS im fed up of all the people running our club filling us up with crap so how do you think we are meant to feel. If its not going to happen just be straight with us at least we all know. Should have been Monday this week then yesterday and now what??????

Here we go again with the attitude of I support the club and pay my admission fee so I am entitled to know everything, all of the time.
Of course...you, the mighty 'le god' could go out and raise thousands of pounds at the drop of a hat! ....if only life were that simple.
you are acting like a spoilt brat who can't get his own way......truth will out, eventually, in the mean time put your dummy back in.

themoonraker wrote:

LeGod wrote: i think what people are getting wound up about is the fact we keep being told we are coming out of the Embargo three weeks ago to date we are still in it SO WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ALL WE WANT IS THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS im fed up of all the people running our club filling us up with crap so how do you think we are meant to feel. If its not going to happen just be straight with us at least we all know. Should have been Monday this week then yesterday and now what??????

Here we go again with the attitude of I support the club and pay my admission fee so I am entitled to know everything, all of the time. Of course...you, the mighty 'le god' could go out and raise thousands of pounds at the drop of a hat! ....if only life were that simple. you are acting like a spoilt brat who can't get his own way......truth will out, eventually, in the mean time put your dummy back in.

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

You are never happy unless you are moaning or taking the Mick out of somebody who can think of something original. You over stepped the line on Tuesday evening taking the rise out of things you know nothing about. In future I shall not be replying to your posts, no matter which of your many names you use. KMA.

Is that you Lovesey wrote:

Norfolk Red wrote:

Is that you Lovesey wrote: We need to wake up and smell the coffee, play offs could be a struggle if we keep this up... we are in a shocking run of form.

Lovesey, I couldn't agree more. The team needs freshening up, no one is doubting there ability, we just can't finish teams off. I was a big PDC supporter, but maybe his fitness regime was a tad too harsh, we look tired. I know things take time to sort out, but the embargo is now really biting, I am sure that the board have bigger things to sort out, but Jed saying "I leave that stuff to my laywers" doesn't fill the fans with confidence to renew season tickets or stomach new price increases. If we are really serious about going up, then give Kev the tools he needs to do the job. Otherwise, promotion is just a pipe dream. Sorry for the negative post, but I can see us throwing it all away again, and if we don't get promotion this year, I think it will be a long time before we achieve it again

norfolk, you like me, support the club, I have already renewed my season tickets and paid it all up front, it doesn't matter what happens I will be here next year, but people are deluded, we are just not a good enough team, PDC saw that and bought in Hollands and Martins, the latter was pretty carp, but it was a recognition from Paolo that we lacked something up front and he tried addressing this, I am and always will be a big PDC supporter, because he gave us passion back when we were so low after the Wilson/Hart season, I will never forget the away games at Bradford and Northampton last year, but hey ho he has gone, I am a little dissapointed with the Kmac appointment because its on the cheap, but I am more dissapointed by his complete lack of passion, the interviews are like listening to Malpass, why was he not angry and gutted about last night and Saturday, nope we played well, I dont know how we lost, Yaddy Yaddy Ya Ya, booorrrriiiiiiing, I think this board are what they are, a bunch of chancers without any real money who now own a fairly big football club that they will run on the cheap, well we have seen that before and no doubt we will see it again, but whatever we say, they stopped us entering administration, but fighting in the exec area doesn't really create the right impression. But I think Jed comes accross as a loveable rogue.
But this embargo just shows where we are now, we can talk about being a big club, but we haven't been a force of any type for some time now, we had a great season last year and what an 18 months eh!!

Like I said, my ST's have been renewed and I will be there next year and the year after and so on because I love the club and always will, managers will come and go, good owners and bad will also come and go, but hey ho we will always be here.

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

You are never happy unless you are moaning or taking the Mick out of somebody who can think of something original. You over stepped the line on Tuesday evening taking the rise out of things you know nothing about. In future I shall not be replying to your posts, no matter which of your many names you use. KMA.

The Jockster wrote:
FROM TODAY's SUN->

I Can take charge of the Royals



By CHARLIE WYETT and ANDREW DILLON

Published: 12th March 2013


Note the complete lack of of self confidence and belief - I'd have you back tomow my old son was and all!

PAOLO DI CANIO reckons he is ready to handle a Premier League job like Reading.

The out-of-work Italian coach is the favourite to succeed sacked Brian McDermott.

Di Canio, 44, led Swindon to the League Two title last season on around £500,000 a year before quitting in a row with the club last month.

He said: “I proved in League One and Two that I was the best manager, and I now feel I’m ready for the next level.

“I’m at a stage where I’m a Premier League or Championship manager.

“I’ve already proven my ability in League Two and League One, where there are many arrogant and average players. I was able to turn their mentality and help them become better footballers.

“You can imagine if I have the chance to do the same at the top level.

“I’ve only had success. That success proves the methodology we used was correct and that me and my coaching staff were completely right in the way we do things.”

Royals chiefs say no one has yet been approached to take over.


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old town robin wrote:

The Jockster wrote:
FROM TODAY's SUN->

I Can take charge of the Royals



By CHARLIE WYETT and ANDREW DILLON

Published: 12th March 2013


Note the complete lack of of self confidence and belief - I'd have you back tomow my old son was and all!

PAOLO DI CANIO reckons he is ready to handle a Premier League job like Reading.

The out-of-work Italian coach is the favourite to succeed sacked Brian McDermott.

Di Canio, 44, led Swindon to the League Two title last season on around £500,000 a year before quitting in a row with the club last month.

He said: “I proved in League One and Two that I was the best manager, and I now feel I’m ready for the next level.

“I’m at a stage where I’m a Premier League or Championship manager.

“I’ve already proven my ability in League Two and League One, where there are many arrogant and average players. I was able to turn their mentality and help them become better footballers.

“You can imagine if I have the chance to do the same at the top level.

“I’ve only had success. That success proves the methodology we used was correct and that me and my coaching staff were completely right in the way we do things.”

Royals chiefs say no one has yet been approached to take over.


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Oi Den! wrote:
Still don't see why so many are going on about the strikers. Last night, as on Saturday, it was the midfield that let us down. Our lone striker ran his arse off and had one half chance. PDC identified the real problem months ago. It's why he decided to bypass the midfield with hoofball and it's why he signed Hollands, whose departure is IMO the main reason we are now struggling to gain or maintain control of games. I don't blame MacDonald for using quantity last night to make up for the lack of quality. His hands are tied. All still seems very quiet on the embargo lifting that was going to happen yesterday/the day before that/three weeks ago.

The Jockster wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Still don't see why so many are going on about the strikers. Last night, as on Saturday, it was the midfield that let us down. Our lone striker ran his arse off and had one half chance. PDC identified the real problem months ago. It's why he decided to bypass the midfield with hoofball and it's why he signed Hollands, whose departure is IMO the main reason we are now struggling to gain or maintain control of games. I don't blame MacDonald for using quantity last night to make up for the lack of quality. His hands are tied. All still seems very quiet on the embargo lifting that was going to happen yesterday/the day before that/three weeks ago.

In this life one thing counts in the bank large amounts..... I'll soon be picking a pocket or two .... Go Wilma go Joan!!! :)

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Still don't see why so many are going on about the strikers. Last night, as on Saturday, it was the midfield that let us down. Our lone striker ran his arse off and had one half chance. PDC identified the real problem months ago. It's why he decided to bypass the midfield with hoofball and it's why he signed Hollands, whose departure is IMO the main reason we are now struggling to gain or maintain control of games. I don't blame MacDonald for using quantity last night to make up for the lack of quality. His hands are tied. All still seems very quiet on the embargo lifting that was going to happen yesterday/the day before that/three weeks ago.

In this life one thing counts in the bank large amounts..... I'll soon be picking a pocket or two .... Go Wilma go Joan!!! :)

Haha! They aint gonna score if they aint got the ball. Maybe I shouldn't have been so optimistic that the service would improve!

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Does the new Board want promotion? Would a "near miss" in the play offs suit the Board's business objectives better? I had my season ticket renewal come through last week & yet as fans we don't know what the Board REALLY want. I'm beginning to doubt if they want promotion but rather a cheaper rebuild job. I hope I'm wrong as its a shame for the fans & players. It seems as if the players are missing the previous manager's discipline & that's not helping on the pitch.

It seems as if the players are missing the previous manager's discipline & that's not helping on the pitch.

So under pdc we NEVER OUT PLAYED a team and lost....How many points have we dropped at home this season under pdc

I think its about time some fans should remember who bought these players that have been misfiring all season and not being good enough player to STFC....

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

You are never happy unless you are moaning or taking the Mick out of somebody who can think of something original. You over stepped the line on Tuesday evening taking the rise out of things you know nothing about. In future I shall not be replying to your posts, no matter which of your many names you use. KMA.

You forgot to recommend a good book for Jock to read before falling out Wiz,well i will put one forward to start,Dale Carnegie wrote a cracker should suit him down to the ground; titled How to win friends and influence people, now i am sure he wouldn't of read that one....

the don69 wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Still don't see why so many are going on about the strikers. Last night, as on Saturday, it was the midfield that let us down. Our lone striker ran his arse off and had one half chance. PDC identified the real problem months ago. It's why he decided to bypass the midfield with hoofball and it's why he signed Hollands, whose departure is IMO the main reason we are now struggling to gain or maintain control of games. I don't blame MacDonald for using quantity last night to make up for the lack of quality. His hands are tied. All still seems very quiet on the embargo lifting that was going to happen yesterday/the day before that/three weeks ago.

In this life one thing counts in the bank large amounts..... I'll soon be picking a pocket or two .... Go Wilma go Joan!!! :)

Haha! They aint gonna score if they aint got the ball. Maybe I shouldn't have been so optimistic that the service would improve!

Sorry Den!the stato's on twitter worked out,of all the games we've drawn&lost if Wilma and diva Joan had taken 1 out of 3 chances they missed!we'd be 7 points clear at the top of the league!LOL,just watched the Barca exhibition of football against Milam last night!we are light years behind in England!makes the over-payed,prima-don

a's of the premier league look like carthorse's and donkey's,what a performance of total football that was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!

Oi Den! wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Still don't see why so many are going on about the strikers. Last night, as on Saturday, it was the midfield that let us down. Our lone striker ran his arse off and had one half chance. PDC identified the real problem months ago. It's why he decided to bypass the midfield with hoofball and it's why he signed Hollands, whose departure is IMO the main reason we are now struggling to gain or maintain control of games. I don't blame MacDonald for using quantity last night to make up for the lack of quality. His hands are tied. All still seems very quiet on the embargo lifting that was going to happen yesterday/the day before that/three weeks ago.

In this life one thing counts in the bank large amounts..... I'll soon be picking a pocket or two .... Go Wilma go Joan!!! :)

Haha! They aint gonna score if they aint got the ball. Maybe I shouldn't have been so optimistic that the service would improve!

Sorry Den!the stato's on twitter worked out,of all the games we've drawn&lost if Wilma and diva Joan had taken 1 out of 3 chances they missed!we'd be 7 points clear at the top of the league!LOL,just watched the Barca exhibition of football against Milam last night!we are light years behind in England!makes the over-payed,prima-don


a's of the premier league look like carthorse's and donkey's,what a performance of total football that was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!

Ah yes Don, but did they also work out what position of all the other teams would be in if their strikers had taken the same proportion of their chances? There are lies, there are d@mned lies and there are statistics!

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

You are never happy unless you are moaning or taking the Mick out of somebody who can think of something original. You over stepped the line on Tuesday evening taking the rise out of things you know nothing about. In future I shall not be replying to your posts, no matter which of your many names you use. KMA.

Well then if you don't want to have the rise taken out of you don't post things on here about your family history having a connection as to why you absolutely loathe PDC, who gives a monkeys about that for goodness sake, overstepped the line lmao!! - in the light of that statement - I simply refuse to believe your dislike for him is limited to what you call his name/blame/shame culture.

Talking about originality I'm sure you must love my Wilma & Joan nicknames for our dynamic duo up front?

Just to let you know I'm thinking of other names -how about Marlon Brando, Don Corleone, Al Pacino?

Awww! you're not going to respond to my posts (feigns fake angst and crocodile tears) phew! what a relief no more waffling wizardry to wade through :) I'll still respond to yours if I feel its warranted :) I bid you good afternoon sir!

The Jockster wrote:
FROM TODAY's SUN-> I Can take charge of the Royals By CHARLIE WYETT and ANDREW DILLON Published: 12th March 2013 Note the complete lack of of self confidence and belief - I'd have you back tomow my old son was and all! PAOLO DI CANIO reckons he is ready to handle a Premier League job like Reading. The out-of-work Italian coach is the favourite to succeed sacked Brian McDermott. Di Canio, 44, led Swindon to the League Two title last season on around £500,000 a year before quitting in a row with the club last month. He said: “I proved in League One and Two that I was the best manager, and I now feel I’m ready for the next level. “I’m at a stage where I’m a Premier League or Championship manager. “I’ve already proven my ability in League Two and League One, where there are many arrogant and average players. I was able to turn their mentality and help them become better footballers. “You can imagine if I have the chance to do the same at the top level. “I’ve only had success. That success proves the methodology we used was correct and that me and my coaching staff were completely right in the way we do things.” Royals chiefs say no one has yet been approached to take over. Read more: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4838704/ Paolo-Di-Canio-wants -Reading-job.html#ix zz2NQ92IQEZ

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

burley01rs wrote:
I cannot believe what some people write.
Read Nick Watkins final statement to get a grip on reality.

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
Wonder how long before the loan window closes? When will the embargo be lifted? Personally I have doubts that it will - and if I'm right how will we sign new players in the close season and we will need to especially as the 'high earners' who are out of contract will probably go. Also believe fitness levels have dropped from PDC's days now letting in goals in the last 20 mins or so - whereas before we hardly ever let in goals. Promotion this year is very unlikely in my opinion as don't believe the players we have without the help of 2/3 loans can do the job.

Okus Road wrote:

burley01rs wrote:
I cannot believe what some people write.
Read Nick Watkins final statement to get a grip on reality.

Where can we see this statement?

old town robin wrote:

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
Wonder how long before the loan window closes? When will the embargo be lifted? Personally I have doubts that it will - and if I'm right how will we sign new players in the close season and we will need to especially as the 'high earners' who are out of contract will probably go. Also believe fitness levels have dropped from PDC's days now letting in goals in the last 20 mins or so - whereas before we hardly ever let in goals. Promotion this year is very unlikely in my opinion as don't believe the players we have without the help of 2/3 loans can do the job.

Tom, It closes on 25th March, every other team in this league apart from Coventry and us have been bringing in players since the 1st January a 6 week advantage to date.. It is little wonder our form has gone from best team in Europe to where we are now. We were sunk by Black and this new lot have not impressed, bought the club for £1 and have been living off the sale of Ritchie ever since. I have doubts they have contributed 1 penny more than their initial pound, To be honest the whole situation has thoroughly depressed me and as I don't wear rose tinted glasses like some on here it's hard to see if this lot are ever going to tell the truth and put their money where their mouth is.

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

smirg kcab wrote:
The embargo will not be lifted until April when picaretta and all gets paid, the deadline will be well passed.
Onwards and upwards
Embargo army

Med Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

Tomcat 1944 wrote:
Wonder how long before the loan window closes? When will the embargo be lifted? Personally I have doubts that it will - and if I'm right how will we sign new players in the close season and we will need to especially as the 'high earners' who are out of contract will probably go. Also believe fitness levels have dropped from PDC's days now letting in goals in the last 20 mins or so - whereas before we hardly ever let in goals. Promotion this year is very unlikely in my opinion as don't believe the players we have without the help of 2/3 loans can do the job.

Tom, It closes on 25th March, every other team in this league apart from Coventry and us have been bringing in players since the 1st January a 6 week advantage to date.. It is little wonder our form has gone from best team in Europe to where we are now. We were sunk by Black and this new lot have not impressed, bought the club for £1 and have been living off the sale of Ritchie ever since. I have doubts they have contributed 1 penny more than their initial pound, To be honest the whole situation has thoroughly depressed me and as I don't wear rose tinted glasses like some on here it's hard to see if this lot are ever going to tell the truth and put their money where their mouth is.

Know where you're coming from OTR. Jeddy-boy and his chums are certainly struggling to raise the £1.2m needed to lift the embargo. And I guess the mystery investors don't have much spare cash either. That's if there are any investors. Makes you wonder how this lot got FL approval doesn't it.

Bassett Hound wrote:

ctown_red wrote:
if the board want or dont want promotion i dont really mind, i will be renewing my season ticket no matter what! at the end of the day watching STFC on a saturday afternoon in whatever league it may be is what i want.

Great post !

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

CAROLYN1962 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
The embargo will not be lifted until April when picaretta and all gets paid, the deadline will be well passed.
Onwards and upwards
Embargo army

so we cant sign players so why not recall caddis-cox-benson.al

l could do a decent job to get us over the finishing line.any decent manager would have had a recall notice in these loan deals-but we re talking about di canio.caddis could do decent job in defence or right side of midfeild.cox we dont know has he was never given a fair chance and benson will get goals as he is the natural goalscorer we are missing.

NewburyRobin wrote:
Sam Morshead‏@SamMorsh
ead_SA
Re embargo... I'm led to believe we're all waiting for the Football League now. Have to wait it out #stfc.

Yes I know we have all heard it before, but I take this to mean that all money due has been paid & the £1.2 million ring fence requirement is in place.

It just needs rubber stamping by the FL does it not, so that will be tomorrow, Friday, maybe Monday or .................

grove red wrote:
Renewed mine on friday last week still hoping for championship football next season. we need jed and co to sort out the embargo asap and freshen the squad up. striker who can score would be a great start but they are few and far between.

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

vikingred wrote:
Pains me to say it, but maybe, just maybe, the best scenario for the club would be to not get promoted this year. Make the play-off final and get the extra income from that and see how we are set next season under new owners and management. Better a strong div1 side than a struggling Championship side. As much as I'd love to see us go up, I'm not sure we're ready after all that's gone on recently. Thoughts..?

CAROLYN1962 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
The embargo will not be lifted until April when picaretta and all gets paid, the deadline will be well passed.
Onwards and upwards
Embargo army

so we cant sign players so why not recall caddis-cox-benson.al

l could do a decent job to get us over the finishing line.any decent manager would have had a recall notice in these loan deals-but we re talking about di canio.caddis could do decent job in defence or right side of midfeild.cox we dont know has he was never given a fair chance and benson will get goals as he is the natural goalscorer we are missing.

Son of gwen wrote:
We need to make two or three big loan signings ASAP , shake it up a bit, and show the clubs intent on going up !!! Go and get a goal scorer from one of our rivals maybe, that would put a smile on our faces.

umpcah wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Once the season became established it was evident that the squad assembled here was not good enough. It only got results from the fact PDC knew all the players as well as he did and that took a while, and that was why the team was changed so often. At the time he left he knew the team frankly wasn't good enough and another three players were needed, his BIG sticking point.

In comes Supermac to pick up the pieces, a very unenviable task as the numbers were already depleted through injuries and loans having been returned.

We still have the embargo, but Jed, "has left it to his lawyers to sort out".
Legal people are not known for their speed, nor their sense of urgency and the fact he revels in the fact he is still a Luton supporter, so is this is just a business venture and opportunity ? That doesn't tally with the core desire within the fan base of seeking promotion this season, although all the new directors tell us, this is what they want. As LR correctly spelt out yesterday, digging up big money takes time if its invested elsewhere as funding has to clear in process, you can't sell shares if there isn't somebody prepared to buy them, and due to money laundering regulations everything takes time.

There is a big difference in running a smaller club like Banbury and supporting a club like Luton to the day to day, back end of the season running of a club in League One seeking promotion into the Championship, a massive difference and the level of expectation that goes with it.
Time for some to take a big breath and get on with it before it comes around and bites them.
As for SuperMac he is in a no win situation with some right now, but the first half last night and the Coventry game show encouraging glimpses of what he can deliver. He man deserves better than what some are already giving him.

Kevin MacDonald may well deserve better than he has been given but his overall personna and demeanour are not good looking good IMO. Have to laugh at your Supermac accolade, (pmsl)more like Supermarket to date, he needs to achieve something tangible first - like promotion like Canioman (pmsl again) then be might be a Supermac along the lines of McEnroe & Malcolm McDonald. Surely with your much vaunted Italian connections you could send Luigi & the boys around to sort him out!:) adds Avo's smilie to indicate the light-hearted nature of the post so as not to get knickers in twist ala 1950/Avo lol!

You are never happy unless you are moaning or taking the Mick out of somebody who can think of something original. You over stepped the line on Tuesday evening taking the rise out of things you know nothing about. In future I shall not be replying to your posts, no matter which of your many names you use. KMA.

Well then if you don't want to have the rise taken out of you don't post things on here about your family history having a connection as to why you absolutely loathe PDC, who gives a monkeys about that for goodness sake, overstepped the line lmao!! - in the light of that statement - I simply refuse to believe your dislike for him is limited to what you call his name/blame/shame culture.

Talking about originality I'm sure you must love my Wilma & Joan nicknames for our dynamic duo up front?

Just to let you know I'm thinking of other names -how about Marlon Brando, Don Corleone, Al Pacino?

Awww! you're not going to respond to my posts (feigns fake angst and crocodile tears) phew! what a relief no more waffling wizardry to wade through :) I'll still respond to yours if I feel its warranted :) I bid you good afternoon sir!

Talking about originality I'm sure you must love my Wilma & Joan nicknames for our dynamic duo up front?
THEY CAN HARDLY BE REFERRED TO AS SMASH & GRAB !

Bassett Hound wrote:
The general manager has said he is waiting on paperwork back from piccareta I would think that given the way he and the others walked out there would be some dispute to what monies are owed

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

LeGod wrote:
So last friday we were told we could be out of the Embargo - then on Friday it was most likely to be Monday then on Monday it was Tuesday as KM was hoping to get players in for last night.
So here we are going into Thursday nearly another week on and there is deadly silence from our Chairman.!!!!

Bassett Hound wrote:

ecklington wrote:

LeGod wrote:
yes all very well saying judge him on his own team but this team was doing well with the best defensive record in the league and like fort knox to break open now all of a sudden we are letting in two goals a game and playing players out of position.
We would not have dropped 5 points from winning positions before this.

There seems to be no charisma behind his interviews or any passion and i have this feeling unless he puts it right and gets the formation right we wont be going anywhere.

Quote from Mowey33
"It is clear that we DO NOT have the boards backing or ambition, Im Sorry but K Mac does not have the backing or ambition either, On the radio He said that they had said in the team talk that they had talked about brentfords breakaway attacks yet We let them do it and score 2 goals which cost us 3 points from it then said he couldn't fathom why we lost. He wasn't angry had no passion in his voice and virtually said he was settled for a play off place. To me it is clear This board and manager have no ambition".

He couldn't fathom why we lost, says it all......

How can you say Kmac has no ambition he has only been here for 3 games,he has not been able to bring in any fresh faces. I just cannot understand some of the rubbish on this forum. We all have different opinions about players and tactics. But to say the board and the manager have no ambition when they have only been here 5 mins and we no nothing about them yet,is just stupid

FenlandRed wrote:
Jeez, I never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually glad I live far, far away over in Peterboring; reading all these negative reports from people who've obviously been hiding behind potted plants in the boardroom or in kitbags in the dressing room, given how much they apparently know about Jed and Kevin Mac. Give them a break, will you. Our club almost folded. It didn't, but we took some collateral damage. In the circumstances, it's hardly surprising that performances have suffered. So, I'll continue to be behind the team and find optimism in what's left of the season. Rant over

LeGod wrote:
moonraker - when have i said i support the club and pay my way - Never. All i want is some straight answers. The honeymoon is over and Jed may be impresssing people with his mr nice guy and friendly image off the pitch and in the legends lounge but im afraid that doesnt make things happen on the pitch - what does is the money and the desire to support the manager and get players in.
I think too many people are being taken in by his nice guy image as he is obviously the man to give fans a warm feeling about the consortium but im sorry i am doubting everything seriously as things to me dont stack up.
I hope i am very wrong and he rams it down my throat but there is more to this than we are being told.

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

By internal I mean its nothing to do with the football league. If it were players wages it might be different

smirg kcab wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

By internal I mean its nothing to do with the football league. If it were players wages it might be different

Me and den don't get your point?
Players wages or interim managers wages what's the difference? I'm struggling with you
Uuuurrrrrggggggggghh

hh

smirg kcab wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

By internal I mean its nothing to do with the football league. If it were players wages it might be different

Me and den don't get your point?
Players wages or interim managers wages what's the difference? I'm struggling with you
Uuuurrrrrggggggggghh

hh

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

By internal I mean its nothing to do with the football league. If it were players wages it might be different

Me and den don't get your point?
Players wages or interim managers wages what's the difference? I'm struggling with you
Uuuurrrrrggggggggghh


hh

Why should you pay wages for staff that don't turn up for work Grim?they haven't been sacked!try it where you work Grim and see if your boss pay's you!!!!!!!!!

ecklington wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

ecklington wrote:

LeGod wrote:
yes all very well saying judge him on his own team but this team was doing well with the best defensive record in the league and like fort knox to break open now all of a sudden we are letting in two goals a game and playing players out of position.
We would not have dropped 5 points from winning positions before this.

There seems to be no charisma behind his interviews or any passion and i have this feeling unless he puts it right and gets the formation right we wont be going anywhere.

Quote from Mowey33
"It is clear that we DO NOT have the boards backing or ambition, Im Sorry but K Mac does not have the backing or ambition either, On the radio He said that they had said in the team talk that they had talked about brentfords breakaway attacks yet We let them do it and score 2 goals which cost us 3 points from it then said he couldn't fathom why we lost. He wasn't angry had no passion in his voice and virtually said he was settled for a play off place. To me it is clear This board and manager have no ambition".

He couldn't fathom why we lost, says it all......

How can you say Kmac has no ambition he has only been here for 3 games,he has not been able to bring in any fresh faces. I just cannot understand some of the rubbish on this forum. We all have different opinions about players and tactics. But to say the board and the manager have no ambition when they have only been here 5 mins and we no nothing about them yet,is just stupid

The facts speak for themselves, if you know anything about business you would know things aren't right financially with the new owners.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Town are going nowhere fast, much to my dismay. Past history repeating itself, I wish it were different.

the wizard wrote:
Jed has said he is leaving his legal guys to deal with things.

Steve Murrel has said he has invited the Italian guys into the office to discuss and clarify things.

Sam Morshead, has said its all done and dusted as goes the embargo and the club are awaiting the FL to ratify things asap.

The £1.2 M is in place or Jed wouldn't be here and we wouldn't have a club, and if you do know anything about business you would also know that the FL cannot afford another Pompey type debacle on their hands, so the money is in place and the major debts paid. The embargo was over an operational debt that occurs in many clubs with appearance related stage payments.

The likes of Jed and Murrel have come from the relatively quiet back water that is Banbury Utd to a League One club looking for promotion solicitors are not known for speed, and neither are the FL. The banking system is hardly quick as we are talking about withdrawing investment capital, it takes time, and certain criteria have to be met because of money laundering legislation. So although things look slow I fully expect that the truth is people have been working quite hard to get things moving. The whole purchase deal was done so quickly certain things were bound to be swept to one side to get the main deal through. Dealing with larger institutions like City Banks and financiers to get money moving is a lengthy process and I fully expect the FL to be no quicker, STFC is lucky to still be here.
Just remember Diamond Mike !

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

By internal I mean its nothing to do with the football league. If it were players wages it might be different

Me and den don't get your point?
Players wages or interim managers wages what's the difference? I'm struggling with you
Uuuurrrrrggggggggghh



hh

Why should you pay wages for staff that don't turn up for work Grim?they haven't been sacked!try it where you work Grim and see if your boss pay's you!!!!!!!!!

PDC's backroom staff worked up until 19th/20th February, 2013, and should be paid-up to at least this date, depending upon their contracts.

If you did the same you may well expect your bosses to pay you until this time?

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Some people are stupid
WE CANNOT come out of embargo until we pay picaretta which will be in April, we owe his wages and jed won't pay it until April
How many MORE TIMES
No ambition, no loan players, no playoffs, dont call me negative as this is correct, don't have a go at me, and don't believe what you read, it's all garbage
You can't get much for only a £1 investment
O&u
Hope this clears it up (but I'm sure it won't to many of you)
O&u

Internal disputes have nothing to do with the embargo. It's only monies owed to other clubs

I don't know whether Grim is right or wrong about this, but I do know that a debt to an ex-employee is not an internal dispute!

Yes it is

Can you explain what I am missing? Given that a dispute with an ex-employee can end up as a court case between the two parties, how is it an internal matter?

Cookie43 wrote:
I have been coming onto this forum for quite along time now and i have seen some posts over the years that have infuriated me and incensed me but what i have been recently i truly can not believe.
The manager has had 3 games!! and people are calling him cr.ap un- inspiring,boring and comparing him to Malpass etc etc 3 GAMES!!!!!!!!!!
The new board are being called liars,
wanna bees, skint, not wanting promotion etc etc
I am sorry but have have never read such a croc of sh.t in my entire life.
How do you know they have no money?
How do you know they are liars?
How do you know they have no money or backers behind them?
How do you know they have no ambition and do not want promotion.?
As for people saying they think the players are not fit enough the players have said the training is harder,
I will give you a scenario if we had won the last 3 games would all of this negative cr.ap and people saying what they THINK and not what they know be posted on here.
After all we have had to put up with at swindon a group of men save us from the brink of financial ruin and administration and all some of our so called fans can do is berate them call them liars after only a couple of weeks in charge, what would of rather had
ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!

!
lastly we are 4th in the table and after what we have had this season to put up with i thinks thats a fantastic achievement and its not over yet.
I am going to give Jed and co my support for helping my club, and give Kevin Mac my full support, If you are true swindon fans you will do it for your club SWINDON TOWN

Cookie43 wrote:
I have been coming onto this forum for quite along time now and i have seen some posts over the years that have infuriated me and incensed me but what i have been recently i truly can not believe.
The manager has had 3 games!! and people are calling him cr.ap un- inspiring,boring and comparing him to Malpass etc etc 3 GAMES!!!!!!!!!!
The new board are being called liars,
wanna bees, skint, not wanting promotion etc etc
I am sorry but have have never read such a croc of sh.t in my entire life.
How do you know they have no money?
How do you know they are liars?
How do you know they have no money or backers behind them?
How do you know they have no ambition and do not want promotion.?
As for people saying they think the players are not fit enough the players have said the training is harder,
I will give you a scenario if we had won the last 3 games would all of this negative cr.ap and people saying what they THINK and not what they know be posted on here.
After all we have had to put up with at swindon a group of men save us from the brink of financial ruin and administration and all some of our so called fans can do is berate them call them liars after only a couple of weeks in charge, what would of rather had
ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!

!
lastly we are 4th in the table and after what we have had this season to put up with i thinks thats a fantastic achievement and its not over yet.
I am going to give Jed and co my support for helping my club, and give Kevin Mac my full support, If you are true swindon fans you will do it for your club SWINDON TOWN

LydiardRED67 wrote:
A note for all us town fans.

There is a simple way to stop all these rumours of players drinking in OLd Town.

When you see them drinking alcohol tell them what you think.

Just a thought as many posters have witnessed this and done nothing about it.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:
A note for all us town fans.

There is a simple way to stop all these rumours of players drinking in OLd Town.

When you see them drinking alcohol tell them what you think.

Just a thought as many posters have witnessed this and done nothing about it.

....and Tweet a picture to Sam M or @STFC etc. - many will then have more evidence than just rumours.

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

No they are not necessarily settled at a tribunal.... settlement can be made by the signing of a compromise agreement between the two parties where by payment of a fixed agreed fee to the aggrieved party is made subject to them agreeing not to say anything derogatoryabout the other in consideration of said payment.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

No they are not necessarily settled at a tribunal.... settlement can be made by the signing of a compromise agreement between the two parties where by payment of a fixed agreed fee to the aggrieved party is made subject to them agreeing not to say anything derogatoryabout the other in consideration of said payment.

He is not talking to you jock.

The Jockster wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

No they are not necessarily settled at a tribunal.... settlement can be made by the signing of a compromise agreement between the two parties where by payment of a fixed agreed fee to the aggrieved party is made subject to them agreeing not to say anything derogatoryabout the other in consideration of said payment.

He is not talking to you jock.

No but I'm still commenting on his posts Steve when i think its relevant whether he wants me to or not.

Couldn't you sleep last night then matey with your night owl post lol!

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

No they are not necessarily settled at a tribunal.... settlement can be made by the signing of a compromise agreement between the two parties where by payment of a fixed agreed fee to the aggrieved party is made subject to them agreeing not to say anything derogatoryabout the other in consideration of said payment.

He is not talking to you jock.

No but I'm still commenting on his posts Steve when i think its relevant whether he wants me to or not.

Couldn't you sleep last night then matey with your night owl post lol!

I had just got in from fishing Jock,yeah i know i am off my rocker but the river season ends today,so needs must..

The Jockster wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

No they are not necessarily settled at a tribunal.... settlement can be made by the signing of a compromise agreement between the two parties where by payment of a fixed agreed fee to the aggrieved party is made subject to them agreeing not to say anything derogatoryabout the other in consideration of said payment.

He is not talking to you jock.

No but I'm still commenting on his posts Steve when i think its relevant whether he wants me to or not.

Couldn't you sleep last night then matey with your night owl post lol!

jayden wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Den,

Disputes with employees of any company are settled at employment tribunals, and compensation is awarded to either party as the tribunal sees fit . Disputes with players and their wages are handled by the PFA, I thought you would have seen that as you are usually very sharp in that way and offer good explanation to most equations.

No they are not necessarily settled at a tribunal.... settlement can be made by the signing of a compromise agreement between the two parties where by payment of a fixed agreed fee to the aggrieved party is made subject to them agreeing not to say anything derogatoryabout the other in consideration of said payment.

He is not talking to you jock.

No but I'm still commenting on his posts Steve when i think its relevant whether he wants me to or not.

Couldn't you sleep last night then matey with your night owl post lol!

Think you are using the wrong ground baite Jock.