Boss waits on injury concerns (From Swindon Advertiser)

anyone know the latest on devera??

All mid-field players injuries, think most fans would be most concerned with the doubt of Simon. Navarro has hardly featured since the turn of the year and Miller is struggling to complete 90 minutes, think Roberts mentioned a few weeks ago he likes playing in the middle, not sure if that would work, but it would allow De Vita or Luke Rooney a start. Think Williams will revert to go back up front with a 4-4-2, If Simon makes and miller doesn't, a mid-field of Roberts, Ferry, Macca & de Vita with Louis on the bench, might be OK.

stfc4ever!! wrote:
anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss?
Or just you don't no anything about what's going on?
Onwards and upwards

To be fair I'm not sure Miller would be a great loss, Ferry on the other hand! Louis Thompson could come in? Da Vita needs to improve. Its getting very tight on numbers available and still no news on the embargo, it would be reassuring to hear something? Fingers crossed they are working on resolving it rather than just giving us the usual stuff about being confident that it will be removed today, tomorrow, next week etc.

L. Thompson this your chance. I was impressed against Maclesfield in spite of the own goal.

Here's hoping Simon will be fit, should be centre midfield with Alan Mac & not out wide.

This ruddy embargo is beyond a joke. It must be sorted asap as with the injuries we are getting & possible suspensions we need a few new faces in. Hopefully some strong & experienced players who will not be bullied by the opposition still to play.

With 8 games left, there are some big strong. thuggy teams to play, e.g. Sheff Utd, hard to beat & don't let many goals in (except their match v Stevenage) & Donny who quite often have 9 players over 6ft in their team & more on the bench.

Fantastic result v Yeovil but we've got to get our home form sorted. Must win the Notts Co & Oldham matches before the 3 crucial away games.

COYR

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

stfc4ever!! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

Holy **** thats embarrasing!!! Just assumed that as he was first choice when I left there must be reason for flint starting but was confused why he wasnt mentioned on the injured list. HAHA apologies

stfc4ever!! wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

Holy **** thats embarrasing!!! Just assumed that as he was first choice when I left there must be reason for flint starting but was confused why he wasnt mentioned on the injured list. HAHA apologies

I must be being thick....... What have I missed?

stfc4ever!! wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

Holy **** thats embarrasing!!! Just assumed that as he was first choice when I left there must be reason for flint starting but was confused why he wasnt mentioned on the injured list. HAHA apologies

Sorry from me to lol.
Think flint is better, but that's only my opinion, even tho devera has been good also,
He's not injured now tho,but needs match time
Onwards and upwards
At least you have not missed anything on the embargo news being away,
It's been very quiet on here lately no
One arguing with only about 5 post everyday ,
Think we need someone to wind people up to make this site more interesting

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

Holy **** thats embarrasing!!! Just assumed that as he was first choice when I left there must be reason for flint starting but was confused why he wasnt mentioned on the injured list. HAHA apologies

Sorry from me to lol.
Think flint is better, but that's only my opinion, even tho devera has been good also,
He's not injured now tho,but needs match time
Onwards and upwards
At least you have not missed anything on the embargo news being away,
It's been very quiet on here lately no
One arguing with only about 5 post everyday ,
Think we need someone to wind people up to make this site more interesting

Forgot to add jed and Sam has been keeping us all up to date, and the future looks very positive with the embargo being lifted at 4pm today
O&u
P.s we are at home to notts county Saturday

smirg kcab wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

Holy **** thats embarrasing!!! Just assumed that as he was first choice when I left there must be reason for flint starting but was confused why he wasnt mentioned on the injured list. HAHA apologies

Sorry from me to lol. Think flint is better, but that's only my opinion, even tho devera has been good also, He's not injured now tho,but needs match time Onwards and upwards At least you have not missed anything on the embargo news being away, It's been very quiet on here lately no One arguing with only about 5 post everyday , Think we need someone to wind people up to make this site more interesting

Forgot to add jed and Sam has been keeping us all up to date, and the future looks very positive with the embargo being lifted at 4pm today O&u P.s we are at home to notts county Saturday

Cheers Smirg for the update. Like I said been keeping tabs on the scorelines but thats about it. Reading from pretty much all these weeks forums the embargo does seem a royal **** up but if Jed says it will be sorted before deadline day then I will hold my judgement on him until then.

Devera v Flint. Devera far better ball playing defender (still have a great memory of him making a surging round down the left flank before whipping in a cross mceverly could only dream of for ward to head home) but Flint did an excellent job on tuesday against Madden. Ward seems to combine the ball playing and no nonsense game perfectly atm.

KMac - first impressions boring second impressions more passionate than di canio judging by his performance on the touchline the other night!!

all in all if embargo is sorted and bring in a couple of extra players (especially excited about cebbalos) then future does look v bright!

There...hope im up to date now!!

smirg kcab wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

stfc4ever!! wrote: anyone know the latest on devera??

Are you taking the pisss? Or just you don't no anything about what's going on? Onwards and upwards

Ive been abroad for a few weeks so keeping up to date with scores is about all I could do! However I am now back and caught up on everything which took me a while.... Its never boring being a town fan thats for sure!!

Holy **** thats embarrasing!!! Just assumed that as he was first choice when I left there must be reason for flint starting but was confused why he wasnt mentioned on the injured list. HAHA apologies

Sorry from me to lol.
Think flint is better, but that's only my opinion, even tho devera has been good also,
He's not injured now tho,but needs match time
Onwards and upwards
At least you have not missed anything on the embargo news being away,
It's been very quiet on here lately no
One arguing with only about 5 post everyday ,
Think we need someone to wind people up to make this site more interesting

Forgot to add jed and Sam has been keeping us all up to date, and the future looks very positive with the embargo being lifted at 4pm today
O&u
P.s we are at home to notts county Saturday

Where have you heard it's going to be lifted today?

That's that theory blown out the water then. How can a new company be responsible for 50 year old debt, what are the FL playing at?

Doesnt make sense like you say why do Jed and Co need to clear the debt and not the previous consortium of Fitton, Wray etc.

No mention of the new director either

stfc4ever!! wrote:
Doesnt make sense like you say why do Jed and Co need to clear the debt and not the previous consortium of Fitton, Wray etc.

No mention of the new director either

It seems that the bigger problem potentially is previous employees suing STFC, not the debt from 1957(??).
Good old Paolo, as if he didn't get enough money out of us already.

Danielsan wrote:
That's that theory blown out the water then. How can a new company be responsible for 50 year old debt, what are the FL playing at?

So why was' nt these debts going back 50 years ago cleared by the last borard ? And why have they reared their ugly head now ? Bizarre to say the least or the FL do really hate us !

stfc4ever!! wrote:
Doesnt make sense like you say why do Jed and Co need to clear the debt and not the previous consortium of Fitton, Wray etc.

No mention of the new director either

The club is its own legal entity. If you buy a company you buy any outstanding liabilities with it unless it is covered in the sales agreement. Ie. Black agreeing to write off loads of the money he was owed.

What is more worrying is that despite all the previous embargos they now seem to have found some very historic debt that has to be dealt with. Why has that now raised its head after all this time!!

I think STFC owe Harold Fleming a tenner or has that been settled now ?

I expect that poison dwarf , willie carson is still whinging about the money he's owed.

burley01rs wrote:
L. Thompson this your chance. I was impressed against Maclesfield in spite of the own goal.

I thought he was with the Wales U20 squad so not available

Agree with the above - all very strange that such an old debt has suddenly surfaced and caused an embargo!
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Didn't cause an embargo earlier in the season or at the last buy-out or in any of the previous 50yrs....unless it is THEIR OWN debt that they've brought with them but don't believe that either.
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Don't believe that the potential actions from PDC and his team are a reason either.....just don't believe them full-stop really.
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.....but I DO believe in the team and it's capabilities!!

Well,Southampton are premier league and not under the jurisdiction of the muppets at the FL.

However it seems that the FL are dragging up as much as they can and seem to be acting with malicious prejudice towards the Town. Just compare the way we are being dealt with compared to the likes of Portsmouth and Watford.

If we have debts spanning back over 50 years and they have not been handled by previous administrations or just statute (I thought 12 years without being asked for a debt meant it was no longer valid, I could be wrong though !)
surely giving the new board some grace time wouldn't be unreasonable ?

As for we may or may not be subject to legal action, well what about Portsmouth or Birmingham ?

Bring on Saturday when we can get back to thinking about football.

More questions than answers. A debt over 6 years old is not normally recoverable unless you have admitted in writing that you owe it in the last six years or made a payment in the same time frame. So a 50 year old debt is way out of time. Also, 50 years ago (I was there so I know!) you could buy the entire STFC team for £5,000 and have change!! Or a semi-detached house for £900.

The comment about possible legal action is weird, unless the FL are pre-judging what a court would decide about a case that is not even brought yet!! Unless PdC has already written stating that he will be taking action? Personally I can't see a court giving him any sort of damages for spending so much money that the Board called a halt, whatever his contract stated. also he and his team just walked out and left the club in the lurch, so if anything STFC would be the ones looking for damages.

How can there be a debt from 50 years ago? When you enter administration all debts are pilled together and a % is paid off, hence when you come out of administration you are free of those repayments.

What a total load of old tosh! As for PDC, you walked mate, you get sod all! You should of let Jed sack you then you could of claimed compensation.

The old board were a total sham really, will we ever get a decent board? One that cares about the club?

Regarding the latest statement from the board,how can this board being getting stuck for 50 year old debts,why not the previous 20 boards?
Sounds like they have their hands full and i think people need to cut the board some slack now.

To all of those above:
The other option is that it isn't true and that there is something that has come to light with one of the current board which has now caused concern...or maybe they have NOT paid all monies owed.
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Old debt - Nope don't buy it!
Pending Court Action - Nope don't buy it!

so much for Dicanio and his backroom staff,they walkes away,however back to his wastage players let go were they paid up?????? this will drag on.
However just maybe STFC should have a case against the FL as they allways appear to have it in for us.
Still don´t hold your breath the embargo won´t be lifted by next week,at least we know now or what we have been told.
Concerns is contracts on existing playere renewals etc the FL have gone OT

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
To all of those above:
The other option is that it isn't true and that there is something that has come to light with one of the current board which has now caused concern...or maybe they have NOT paid all monies owed.
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Old debt - Nope don't buy it!
Pending Court Action - Nope don't buy it!

Personally am i not so sure SAP, why pluck the year 1957 out of the air?
Also they have a lot to lose by basically lieing with this statement.

In a nutshell: clowns. Blame it on the previous management a la politics. Try shifting it on PDC and something in 1957. Should have sorted this before or at least noticed it. Cowboys.

How come a 50 yr old debt has come to life? why was this never picked up or mentioned before? It's not April 1st yet is it?

Bloody hell how much can it be? a couple of quid. In 1968 I once found 2 shilling coin on the Stratton Bank, so perhaps i should have handed it in, is this the debt?

The Football League really have it in for us. Sorry to harp on about the financial irregularites in the past, but we were stitched up then whilst Chelsea & Spurs despite being found guilty bought their way out of it.

As for money owed to past employees, if it's PDC & his gang threatening legal action, then shame on them. All the good they did would leave a nasty taste in the mouth. Yes, they might have been annoyed when Matt Richtie was sold, but they resigned. Fact. Heroes to zeroes.

I obviously always want us to do well, but after all this C**p since Christmas, I so much want us to get promoted, we deserve it. The hard work & togetherness of the players & backing from the fans has been incredible. Us going up, I expect the FL will try & scupper this.

Keep the faith..

COYR

Paper bill wasnt paid,

RedRich wrote:
How come a 50 yr old debt has come to life? why was this never picked up or mentioned before? It's not April 1st yet is it?

Bloody hell how much can it be? a couple of quid. In 1968 I once found 2 shilling coin on the Stratton Bank, so perhaps i should have handed it in, is this the debt?

The Football League really have it in for us. Sorry to harp on about the financial irregularites in the past, but we were stitched up then whilst Chelsea & Spurs despite being found guilty bought their way out of it.

As for money owed to past employees, if it's PDC & his gang threatening legal action, then shame on them. All the good they did would leave a nasty taste in the mouth. Yes, they might have been annoyed when Matt Richtie was sold, but they resigned. Fact. Heroes to zeroes.

I obviously always want us to do well, but after all this C**p since Christmas, I so much want us to get promoted, we deserve it. The hard work & togetherness of the players & backing from the fans has been incredible. Us going up, I expect the FL will try & scupper this.

Keep the faith..

COYR

That was my 2 shillings! :-)

swindon61uk

I feel so guilty, I tried joining the board with it, but was told it was to much.

COYR

Rich that made me laugh...LOL

For sure if the statement the Board have given out aint true they are digging a bigger hole.
OK they gave us part of the picture why not the whole one??????
Also the FL do appear to have it in for us,the team is down to the bare knuckles yet we cannot bring in loanees.
Tet back to Pompey owe mega money yet are allowed to ship them in and out just as they please
Just hope the statement issued was true

Where's Sue?

Possibly might be found in DiCanio's lawyer's briefs.

swwindon61uk wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
To all of those above:
The other option is that it isn't true and that there is something that has come to light with one of the current board which has now caused concern...or maybe they have NOT paid all monies owed.
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Old debt - Nope don't buy it!
Pending Court Action - Nope don't buy it!

Personally am i not so sure SAP, why pluck the year 1957 out of the air?
Also they have a lot to lose by basically lieing with this statement.

How can a debt such as that exist after we went through administration...twi
ce?
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Just does not make sense & pending court action would be hard to believe as every other club who has pending but non-filed actions against them would be in the same scenario.
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Just reeks of rotting turnips to me..
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.....would love to be proved wrong and it all get sorted butI'll stick to putting my optimism in the team!! :-)

Total utter bullsh@t that statement.

Getting ready for Administration? Getting a little worried now, I thought gov talked BS but everything he says keeps coming back to haunt us!

This board is supposed to have the same financial clout as the previous, so dig in and pay it off? Or was that BS too?

I am very concerned

The PDC situation was BS, He didn't bother calling

The Claim he had money seems to be BS

This statement is BS

The whole club is becoming a joke!

Cheers Mr Black, so much for your BS statement about leaving the club in good hands.

Sorry, but I pay good money to watch a football club, I and the rest of the fans don't deserve BS. Tell the truth, tell us what debt this relates too, why half a story, if you want to be taken seriously and expect us to buy season tickets, then treat us with some respect.

Come on, this smells. I think I believe Gov over our current board at the current time.

Bloody mess

PDC did say that the truth would come out and he would see the club in court when he left.
Perhaps claiments are coming forward from years back who were not included in the details of the administratons.
The FL are inviting all to come forward it seems to ensure we have no more hidden debts that could spring up in the future.
They have made it hard for Portsmouth as well a short while ago by refusing a new consortium the chance to make a bid for takeover.
Trouble is we dont really know and at least this statement breaks the silence.
I am going to give Jed and co the benifit of the doubt for the moment because they would be causing themselves one whole load of greif taking over this club,contracting a new manager and signing an agreement with the FL if they just intened to ditch the club,after all its worth nothing without investment!!
That makes no sence at all...COYR this Saturday...I think Jed and co will sort it...we need to keep the faith.

Nikki Nythe wrote:
Getting ready for Administration? Getting a little worried now, I thought gov talked BS but everything he says keeps coming back to haunt us! This board is supposed to have the same financial clout as the previous, so dig in and pay it off? Or was that BS too? I am very concerned The PDC situation was BS, He didn't bother calling The Claim he had money seems to be BS This statement is BS The whole club is becoming a joke! Cheers Mr Black, so much for your BS statement about leaving the club in good hands. Sorry, but I pay good money to watch a football club, I and the rest of the fans don't deserve BS. Tell the truth, tell us what debt this relates too, why half a story, if you want to be taken seriously and expect us to buy season tickets, then treat us with some respect. Come on, this smells. I think I believe Gov over our current board at the current time. Bloody mess

How do you no or even think its bullpoo..
YOU no the same as me
FCK ALL...

IF IT WAS NOT FOR HIS LOT THE CLUB WOULD BE IN ADMINISTRATION...

PLUS THIS IS HOW MUCH pdc THOUGHT OF STFC...
I WILL SEE YOU IN COURT

Who's renewed their season ticket? Fancy buying it again if we go into administration?

The world it ain't easy. Looking forward to Louis playing Saturday. Have wanted the Thompson twins in together for a while. Looking forward to both their energy and drive....

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Nikki Nythe wrote:
Getting ready for Administration? Getting a little worried now, I thought gov talked BS but everything he says keeps coming back to haunt us! This board is supposed to have the same financial clout as the previous, so dig in and pay it off? Or was that BS too? I am very concerned The PDC situation was BS, He didn't bother calling The Claim he had money seems to be BS This statement is BS The whole club is becoming a joke! Cheers Mr Black, so much for your BS statement about leaving the club in good hands. Sorry, but I pay good money to watch a football club, I and the rest of the fans don't deserve BS. Tell the truth, tell us what debt this relates too, why half a story, if you want to be taken seriously and expect us to buy season tickets, then treat us with some respect. Come on, this smells. I think I believe Gov over our current board at the current time. Bloody mess

How do you no or even think its bullpoo..
YOU no the same as me
FCK ALL...

IF IT WAS NOT FOR HIS LOT THE CLUB WOULD BE IN ADMINISTRATION...

PLUS THIS IS HOW MUCH pdc THOUGHT OF STFC...
I WILL SEE YOU IN COURT

Bang on Darren. PdC principled????? absolute charlatan, the man wouldn't know a principle if it came up and shaved his slug eyebrows off. The question I ask too is, where would be right now if it wasn't for Jed and co.? transcending the abyss,, that's where. OK we may still end up there, but for now we aren't and where there's life there's hope.