Town target Spurs youngster Mason as Rooney link renewed

Ryan Mason

Ryan Mason

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SWINDON Town are interested in bringing Tottenham youngster Ryan Mason to the County Ground this summer, the Advertiser understands.

The Robins have been monitoring the potential availability of the attacking midfielder, who is out of contract at White Hart Lane this summer, and could make their move for the 21-year-old in the coming weeks.

Swindon’s new board have strong links with Tottenham’s head of football development Tim Sherwood and look to be making the most of those contacts, with Mason, Nathan Byrne and Massimo Luongo all being touted as possible signings over the course of the off-season.

Mason spent the second half of last season on loan at French Ligue 1 outfit Lorient and has also played for Millwall, Doncaster and Yeovil as well as making four appearances for Spurs.

He turned out three times for his current club in 2012/13, including the home clashes with Lazio and Maribor in the Europa League, but has yet to agree new terms with the north London club.

Swindon declined to comment when contacted yesterday.

Meanwhile, the Adver has learnt that Luke Rooney is the subject of renewed interest from Cheltenham - for whom he almost signed in January.

The League Two side are believed to have tabled a year-long loan bid for the winger, of whom manager Mark Yates is a big admirer, although it’s understood that Swindon would prefer to offload the former Gillingham man permanently.

Rooney, who only arrived in Wiltshire 18 months ago, barely featured in a red shirt last term and looks set for a summer exit.

He is believed to be meeting with Cheltenham next week to discuss the possibility of a switch to Whaddon Road.

Rooney has also been considered by Portsmouth, who have since ended their interest in the 22-year-old.

Finally, no further bids are expected this week from Bristol City for Town defender Aden Flint.

Three approaches have already been rebuffed by Swindon for the centre-back, who saw his transfer request turned down on Tuesday.

City are currently considering whether or not to return for a fourth time with an improved offer, which could take the 23-year-old away from Wiltshire.

The Ashton Gate side’s manager, Sean O’Driscoll, yesterday confirmed his interest in Flint - which was first revealed in the Advertiser on Tuesday.

O’Driscoll told BBC Radio Bristol: “We've put in an offer that got rejected, so we're just contemplating whether we increase the offer or look elsewhere.

“He'd be somebody we feel that would fill the right centre-half gap that seems to have been a problem since Steven Caulker left.

“He's a good age and someone we think we can develop further.”

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6:12am Thu 23 May 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Good players is that mason...
Looks like we will have a very young and attacking side this season...
Im looking forward to it...

Rooney was always on his way out as he was one of pdc big earners
Good players is that mason... Looks like we will have a very young and attacking side this season... Im looking forward to it... Rooney was always on his way out as he was one of pdc big earners DarrenSTFCRomain
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6:38am Thu 23 May 13

eastern red says...

The adver believes swindon may be interested in bringing a player in - STFC declined to comment. This is the only piece of positive news so far this summer. Maybe I'm impatient but it is hardly encouraging given all the confirmed news regarding players leaving. C'mon Jed&co give those who have pledged season ticket cash some good news.
The adver believes swindon may be interested in bringing a player in - STFC declined to comment. This is the only piece of positive news so far this summer. Maybe I'm impatient but it is hardly encouraging given all the confirmed news regarding players leaving. C'mon Jed&co give those who have pledged season ticket cash some good news. eastern red
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6:40am Thu 23 May 13

sunnyd22 says...

Seen him, looks good, hopefully this is the type of player we are aiming for throughout the squad. COYR !!
Seen him, looks good, hopefully this is the type of player we are aiming for throughout the squad. COYR !! sunnyd22
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6:43am Thu 23 May 13

eastern red says...

The only piece of positive news this summer and it is a very weak player coming in possibility on which the club decline to comment! C'mon Jed&co give those who have pledged season ticket cash a reason to believe we will be a serious league 1 club next year , rather than a Bury / Hartlepool.
The only piece of positive news this summer and it is a very weak player coming in possibility on which the club decline to comment! C'mon Jed&co give those who have pledged season ticket cash a reason to believe we will be a serious league 1 club next year , rather than a Bury / Hartlepool. eastern red
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6:44am Thu 23 May 13

spiker71 says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Good players is that mason...
Looks like we will have a very young and attacking side this season...
Im looking forward to it...

Rooney was always on his way out as he was one of pdc big earners
Young side with plenty of talent and energy for Kmac to work with.

Don't understand all the negative vibes about players. They come and go, money and ambition dictates that with a club of your stature, it's reality, not fairyland pdc/black style.

Only worry is dodgey pitches and big sides that will try to just bully you. Will the youngsters be able to handle that situation? Probably not at 1st but that is why they will be here to learn, grow and develop. Something we will all have to just accept.
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: Good players is that mason... Looks like we will have a very young and attacking side this season... Im looking forward to it... Rooney was always on his way out as he was one of pdc big earners[/p][/quote]Young side with plenty of talent and energy for Kmac to work with. Don't understand all the negative vibes about players. They come and go, money and ambition dictates that with a club of your stature, it's reality, not fairyland pdc/black style. Only worry is dodgey pitches and big sides that will try to just bully you. Will the youngsters be able to handle that situation? Probably not at 1st but that is why they will be here to learn, grow and develop. Something we will all have to just accept. spiker71
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7:09am Thu 23 May 13

cowpat says...

eastern red you can not sign players until there contracts end . on that basis it is better to say nothing until we sign a player. we have missed out on players in the past because it has been made public that we were intersted. wait until the end of may, june and july then we might get the news we all want.
eastern red you can not sign players until there contracts end . on that basis it is better to say nothing until we sign a player. we have missed out on players in the past because it has been made public that we were intersted. wait until the end of may, june and july then we might get the news we all want. cowpat
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7:36am Thu 23 May 13

avo says...

Although only 21, Mason has experience at our level and above. This could be a crucial signing. Here's hoping it comes to fruition.
Although only 21, Mason has experience at our level and above. This could be a crucial signing. Here's hoping it comes to fruition. avo
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7:41am Thu 23 May 13

mancrobin says...

Sounds promising. A young talented side will be agood one to watch but will struggle against the likes of Brentford - strong, organised and fit.

Still, for all his qualities, Ferry was a bit lightweight so Mason might be an improvement on that aspect?
Sounds promising. A young talented side will be agood one to watch but will struggle against the likes of Brentford - strong, organised and fit. Still, for all his qualities, Ferry was a bit lightweight so Mason might be an improvement on that aspect? mancrobin
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7:49am Thu 23 May 13

arkells says...

what no negativity on this forum yet, where are all the head in the sands gone
what no negativity on this forum yet, where are all the head in the sands gone arkells
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7:50am Thu 23 May 13

arkells says...

what no negativity on this forum yet, where are all the head in the sands gone
what no negativity on this forum yet, where are all the head in the sands gone arkells
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7:55am Thu 23 May 13

avo says...

You can say that again arkells lol
You can say that again arkells lol avo
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8:07am Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

A young talented side will struggle to beat a team like Brentford - who are a upon talented side!
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Moore (21) Dean (22) Logan (25) Bidwell (20) Forshaw (21) Adeyemi (21) Diagouraga ()
Trotta () and Forrester () along with the veterans Craig (28) and Donaldson (29) was the PO team!
A young talented side will struggle to beat a team like Brentford - who are a upon talented side! . Moore (21) Dean (22) Logan (25) Bidwell (20) Forshaw (21) Adeyemi (21) Diagouraga () Trotta () and Forrester () along with the veterans Craig (28) and Donaldson (29) was the PO team! London Red
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8:13am Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

That posted before I finished!
That posted before I finished! London Red
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8:24am Thu 23 May 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

Sounds like a good player, I wouldn't mind Luongo back again to be fair.
Sounds like a good player, I wouldn't mind Luongo back again to be fair. Is that you Lovesey
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8:44am Thu 23 May 13

stfcdod says...

London Red wrote:
That posted before I finished!
Still don't understand it LR. Minds you, I've only just woken up.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: That posted before I finished![/p][/quote]Still don't understand it LR. Minds you, I've only just woken up. stfcdod
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8:45am Thu 23 May 13

stfcdod says...

stfcdod wrote:
London Red wrote:
That posted before I finished!
Still don't understand it LR. Minds you, I've only just woken up.
Got it now(and woken up)
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: That posted before I finished![/p][/quote]Still don't understand it LR. Minds you, I've only just woken up.[/p][/quote]Got it now(and woken up) stfcdod
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8:53am Thu 23 May 13

madterrier says...

Why would the club comment further when there is nothing to comment on yet?

Although if he is out of contract then he's a free agent, so it has nothing to do with Swindon's board having strong links with Tim Sherwood (really? I thought it was Power who did?), so the Adver is barking up the wrong tree there.

Last scored a goal in the 2009/10 season. Not great for an attacking midfielder but he's only played around 25-30 games in the three years since and can easily improve.

Do I take it that there is no chance of the Marlon Pack interest being revived? You would have thought if Cheltenham are back in for Luke Rooney there would be scope to do something. Or would his wage demands be too high for us?

Or Luongo? I always assumed he would not be coming back as he said he wanted to play in the Championship, which I think he's good enough for.
Why would the club comment further when there is nothing to comment on yet? Although if he is out of contract then he's a free agent, so it has nothing to do with Swindon's board having strong links with Tim Sherwood (really? I thought it was Power who did?), so the Adver is barking up the wrong tree there. Last scored a goal in the 2009/10 season. Not great for an attacking midfielder but he's only played around 25-30 games in the three years since and can easily improve. Do I take it that there is no chance of the Marlon Pack interest being revived? You would have thought if Cheltenham are back in for Luke Rooney there would be scope to do something. Or would his wage demands be too high for us? Or Luongo? I always assumed he would not be coming back as he said he wanted to play in the Championship, which I think he's good enough for. madterrier
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8:53am Thu 23 May 13

bearwoodred says...

eastern red wrote:
The adver believes swindon may be interested in bringing a player in - STFC declined to comment. This is the only piece of positive news so far this summer. Maybe I'm impatient but it is hardly encouraging given all the confirmed news regarding players leaving. C'mon Jed&co give those who have pledged season ticket cash some good news.
it's May - season only finished two weeks ago and is eight weeks from starting again!! We have four times the time from the start that we do the end!!

Think about it!!
[quote][p][bold]eastern red[/bold] wrote: The adver believes swindon may be interested in bringing a player in - STFC declined to comment. This is the only piece of positive news so far this summer. Maybe I'm impatient but it is hardly encouraging given all the confirmed news regarding players leaving. C'mon Jed&co give those who have pledged season ticket cash some good news.[/p][/quote]it's May - season only finished two weeks ago and is eight weeks from starting again!! We have four times the time from the start that we do the end!! Think about it!! bearwoodred
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8:54am Thu 23 May 13

Med Red says...

Good to hear that Cheltenham are still interested in Rooney. I'd like to see a swap, with Rooney going to them and Marlon Pack coming our way.
Good to hear that Cheltenham are still interested in Rooney. I'd like to see a swap, with Rooney going to them and Marlon Pack coming our way. Med Red
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8:57am Thu 23 May 13

stfclondon says...

A 21 year old Tottenham player? No thanks.

Don't this board realise we need to sign 36 year old lower league journeymen to have any chance of success?

Boo, hiss etc.
A 21 year old Tottenham player? No thanks. Don't this board realise we need to sign 36 year old lower league journeymen to have any chance of success? Boo, hiss etc. stfclondon
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8:58am Thu 23 May 13

Robinonfire says...

Sell Sell Sell.....bring in Tottenhams 3rd team.
Sell Sell Sell.....bring in Tottenhams 3rd team. Robinonfire
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8:59am Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Sorry - phoned died - was saying how young Brentford are but are considered one of the division most organised and physical sides - witth Harlee Dean being the prime example
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Brentofrd had an average age of only 23
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Anyway the list with all ages is:
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Moore (22) Dean (22) Logan (25) Bidwell (20) Forshaw (21) Adeyemi (21) Diagouraga (25) Trotta (21) and Forrester (21) along with the veterans Craig (28) and Donaldson (29) was the PO team!”
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If the above rumours are true it would appear we could be similar with a young side flanked by a few experienced heads
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It also looks like we might be going with an adapted 451 - the ever increasingly popular 4231
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Fodderingham
Thompson Flint/Troy Ward Byrne
Luongo Macca
Storey Mason Roberts
Collins
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Thats is a pretty impressive looking side - probably as 9 featured in the POs - and then we have Thompson coming back who was our player of the year
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It also shows that the "Its Greer all over agin" is wode of the mark as replacements do seemed to be lined up
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I bet Luongo and Mason will likely only comand wages of Ferry's combined
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Would still want another CF (Not Adam Rooney) and a Winger to boost the sqaud as Stroey is still very young and Williams is poor
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Jimmy Ryan out wide and Tyrone Barnett up top would be excellent and both available on a free at the moment
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Bury released 16 yesterday! We have missed out on Schumacher who has gone to Fleetwood - but Tom Soares is availalbe who has Premiership and Championship expeience - he could be an excellent replacment should Macca not agree terms
Sorry - phoned died - was saying how young Brentford are but are considered one of the division most organised and physical sides - witth Harlee Dean being the prime example . Brentofrd had an average age of only 23 . Anyway the list with all ages is: . Moore (22) Dean (22) Logan (25) Bidwell (20) Forshaw (21) Adeyemi (21) Diagouraga (25) Trotta (21) and Forrester (21) along with the veterans Craig (28) and Donaldson (29) was the PO team!” . If the above rumours are true it would appear we could be similar with a young side flanked by a few experienced heads . It also looks like we might be going with an adapted 451 - the ever increasingly popular 4231 . Fodderingham Thompson Flint/Troy Ward Byrne Luongo Macca Storey Mason Roberts Collins . Thats is a pretty impressive looking side - probably as 9 featured in the POs - and then we have Thompson coming back who was our player of the year . It also shows that the "Its Greer all over agin" is wode of the mark as replacements do seemed to be lined up . I bet Luongo and Mason will likely only comand wages of Ferry's combined . Would still want another CF (Not Adam Rooney) and a Winger to boost the sqaud as Stroey is still very young and Williams is poor . Jimmy Ryan out wide and Tyrone Barnett up top would be excellent and both available on a free at the moment . Bury released 16 yesterday! We have missed out on Schumacher who has gone to Fleetwood - but Tom Soares is availalbe who has Premiership and Championship expeience - he could be an excellent replacment should Macca not agree terms London Red
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9:00am Thu 23 May 13

Stilloyal says...

Hopefully he will be signed in time for the friendly at Tamworth.
Hopefully he will be signed in time for the friendly at Tamworth. Stilloyal
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9:04am Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Terrier - Luongo never said that it was the Adver - just like the Storey 3 games to prove himself remark
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If you look at what Luongo actually said no mention of promotion being a factor was there
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That was my point about Thompson's deal - it was the Adver reporting it not the club or player
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As for Luongo - this is from that article -When asked whether that could mean a return to the County Ground, he said: “Possibly yes, I’m doing well here so I’m hoping they’d want me back. But it’s still up in the air until the season’s over and then again next season will be my choice where I want to go.
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“At the moment I’m happy here because I’m playing, it’s always a different story when you’re not playing.
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“I honestly couldn’t tell you what will happen next year. I enjoy playing, if I’m playing anywhere then I’d be happy to go there.”
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One of the biggest draws of Swindon to Luongo is the coaching style of manager Kevin MacDonald.
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He said: “I prefer the way he coaches, it’s similar to the setup like Tim Sherwood. They have the same views and the way they say things. He is a calm manager at times and I like that.
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“He’s always on your case and very vocal, and I think I need that as a youngster. He keeps on my back and I’m enjoying it at the moment
Terrier - Luongo never said that it was the Adver - just like the Storey 3 games to prove himself remark . If you look at what Luongo actually said no mention of promotion being a factor was there . That was my point about Thompson's deal - it was the Adver reporting it not the club or player . As for Luongo - this is from that article -When asked whether that could mean a return to the County Ground, he said: “Possibly yes, I’m doing well here so I’m hoping they’d want me back. But it’s still up in the air until the season’s over and then again next season will be my choice where I want to go. . “At the moment I’m happy here because I’m playing, it’s always a different story when you’re not playing. . “I honestly couldn’t tell you what will happen next year. I enjoy playing, if I’m playing anywhere then I’d be happy to go there.” . One of the biggest draws of Swindon to Luongo is the coaching style of manager Kevin MacDonald. . He said: “I prefer the way he coaches, it’s similar to the setup like Tim Sherwood. They have the same views and the way they say things. He is a calm manager at times and I like that. . “He’s always on your case and very vocal, and I think I need that as a youngster. He keeps on my back and I’m enjoying it at the moment London Red
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9:16am Thu 23 May 13

madterrier says...

Let's go and get Luongo then. (Byrne am less fussed by - too small).

If - and it's a big if with KMac - we continue to play with two wingers/wide men, then we will need two hard working midfielders in the centre.

Yes, the Adver is sloppy in its reporting, I know that. With Nathan Thompson though it is irrelevant. We know he's out of contract, and the club really should be offering our player of the year and supposedly second most valuable asset a longer term deal anyway, not just activating a one-year option.
Let's go and get Luongo then. (Byrne am less fussed by - too small). If - and it's a big if with KMac - we continue to play with two wingers/wide men, then we will need two hard working midfielders in the centre. Yes, the Adver is sloppy in its reporting, I know that. With Nathan Thompson though it is irrelevant. We know he's out of contract, and the club really should be offering our player of the year and supposedly second most valuable asset a longer term deal anyway, not just activating a one-year option. madterrier
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9:25am Thu 23 May 13

We are PANTS says...

arkells wrote:
what no negativity on this forum yet, where are all the head in the sands gone
WHERE'S VICTOR?
[quote][p][bold]arkells[/bold] wrote: what no negativity on this forum yet, where are all the head in the sands gone[/p][/quote]WHERE'S VICTOR? We are PANTS
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9:35am Thu 23 May 13

swindon1963 says...

madterrier wrote:
Let's go and get Luongo then. (Byrne am less fussed by - too small).

If - and it's a big if with KMac - we continue to play with two wingers/wide men, then we will need two hard working midfielders in the centre.

Yes, the Adver is sloppy in its reporting, I know that. With Nathan Thompson though it is irrelevant. We know he's out of contract, and the club really should be offering our player of the year and supposedly second most valuable asset a longer term deal anyway, not just activating a one-year option.
The board have , both Thompson's , 2 1/2 year deals but no news as yet.
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Let's go and get Luongo then. (Byrne am less fussed by - too small). If - and it's a big if with KMac - we continue to play with two wingers/wide men, then we will need two hard working midfielders in the centre. Yes, the Adver is sloppy in its reporting, I know that. With Nathan Thompson though it is irrelevant. We know he's out of contract, and the club really should be offering our player of the year and supposedly second most valuable asset a longer term deal anyway, not just activating a one-year option.[/p][/quote]The board have , both Thompson's , 2 1/2 year deals but no news as yet. swindon1963
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9:51am Thu 23 May 13

jamesturner says...

Previous clubs have forged links with Tottenham regarding young players ie Yeovil,Orient etc and in the main the players have failed to make an impact.Players mature at a different rate and hopefully these players will develop in a better youth set up environment than their previous clubs.As mentioned previously a balance of youth and experience is vital to maintain the progress of previous seasons.
Previous clubs have forged links with Tottenham regarding young players ie Yeovil,Orient etc and in the main the players have failed to make an impact.Players mature at a different rate and hopefully these players will develop in a better youth set up environment than their previous clubs.As mentioned previously a balance of youth and experience is vital to maintain the progress of previous seasons. jamesturner
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10:54am Thu 23 May 13

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

Was it Jamie Mills who left for nothing on the promise that we MIGHT get a loan player or two from Tottenham the last time we forged a link with them?

Sorry. A bit negative that. I'm not feeling it. Honestly!
Was it Jamie Mills who left for nothing on the promise that we MIGHT get a loan player or two from Tottenham the last time we forged a link with them? Sorry. A bit negative that. I'm not feeling it. Honestly! The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier
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11:02am Thu 23 May 13

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

Actually, I've just looked into it and it was Leigh Mills. And amazingly, a site called www.transfermarket.c
o.uk says we got £198k for him! Am I the only one who can't remember that?
Actually, I've just looked into it and it was Leigh Mills. And amazingly, a site called www.transfermarket.c o.uk says we got £198k for him! Am I the only one who can't remember that? The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier
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11:12am Thu 23 May 13

Billy hunt 65 says...

I would rather watch a team of youngsters with a sprinkling if old heads at the Chicago next season, than some of the dross pfc signed .
Looking forward to the new season, let flint go, there are better out there good in the air but a shambles with the ball at his feet .
I would rather watch a team of youngsters with a sprinkling if old heads at the Chicago next season, than some of the dross pfc signed . Looking forward to the new season, let flint go, there are better out there good in the air but a shambles with the ball at his feet . Billy hunt 65
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11:23am Thu 23 May 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Loungo - no. I'm the only one that thinks he doesn't work hard enough. As for Roberts please god can we move him on.

The one thing we should have learnt is we can't carry passengers, the whole 11 need to put a shift in. Neither do it for me at all.

More than happy to sign young hungry players with some experienced pro's as think its the way forward.

Ever hopeful but no expectation....
Loungo - no. I'm the only one that thinks he doesn't work hard enough. As for Roberts please god can we move him on. The one thing we should have learnt is we can't carry passengers, the whole 11 need to put a shift in. Neither do it for me at all. More than happy to sign young hungry players with some experienced pro's as think its the way forward. Ever hopeful but no expectation.... dreamofacleansheet2
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11:58am Thu 23 May 13

AdderB says...

Please dont shout at me if I'm not totally upto speed. Short while back the Adver said Byrne was signing for town permanently. Did he sign? .

Some papers said we would get Adam Rooney. Did we ?

Is McCormack going or not ?

Whats hapenning with Caddis ?
Apologies if I missed something . been busy !
Cheers guys
Please dont shout at me if I'm not totally upto speed. Short while back the Adver said Byrne was signing for town permanently. Did he sign? . Some papers said we would get Adam Rooney. Did we ? Is McCormack going or not ? Whats hapenning with Caddis ? Apologies if I missed something . been busy ! Cheers guys AdderB
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12:13pm Thu 23 May 13

Vintage Trouble says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Loungo - no. I'm the only one that thinks he doesn't work hard enough. As for Roberts please god can we move him on. The one thing we should have learnt is we can't carry passengers, the whole 11 need to put a shift in. Neither do it for me at all. More than happy to sign young hungry players with some experienced pro's as think its the way forward. Ever hopeful but no expectation....
It's strange you don't think he works hard enough yet I remember him mostly for his getting back and making crucial interceptions (and a mis-timed tackle) in our own box.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Loungo - no. I'm the only one that thinks he doesn't work hard enough. As for Roberts please god can we move him on. The one thing we should have learnt is we can't carry passengers, the whole 11 need to put a shift in. Neither do it for me at all. More than happy to sign young hungry players with some experienced pro's as think its the way forward. Ever hopeful but no expectation....[/p][/quote]It's strange you don't think he works hard enough yet I remember him mostly for his getting back and making crucial interceptions (and a mis-timed tackle) in our own box. Vintage Trouble
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12:32pm Thu 23 May 13

Swindon1984 says...

I'd take Byrne and Luongo, especially Byrne as though lightweight seeing him run at players is a joy - we really only have Macca other than him to do that.
I'd take Byrne and Luongo, especially Byrne as though lightweight seeing him run at players is a joy - we really only have Macca other than him to do that. Swindon1984
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12:49pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Luongo - had a poorish 1st half against Brentford at home in the POs but other than that was probably one of our better players over those games - he certainly showed a mix of steel and skill in the away leg - the flick over the head to get away from their player was exceptional
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Roberts was our best player over those games and was our ONLY outlet - until Storey and Collins were introduced in the 2nd leg
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If he can continue the form he has shown under KMac then he will be a real asset! Its why we signed him in the first place - 4 PO appearances in a row!
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Granted though he is on big wages - so shifting him on to free some up might be wise
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If anyone doesn't put a shift in it is a certain Mr Williams who went missing in action for the entire POs - and most of 2013 actually!
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Luongo and Macca would certainly provide enough steel in the middle - plus we have Navarro in there too - which sitting and protecting the back four is his speciality - i.e Notts Co game
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But like Roberts - big earner so shifting him on to free some up might be wise
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If we do shift Roberts and Navarro - we must replace them with other experienced heads though otherwise we will get over run - you can't have 11 kids out there!
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Bury have nowhere near the budget we had but got Tom Soares from Stoke in - he is now free so could be a good option if Macca doesn't sign or Navarro moving on
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Chris McCann has also been released from Burnely - only 25 but heaps of experience as he has been in thier first team since they won promotion to the Premiership under Coyle
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There are plenty on players coming available all the time that we could completely revamp the squad and reduce the wage bill - but that obviously is mainly dependent on shifting our big earners
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If they don't though go then we might as well use them!
Luongo - had a poorish 1st half against Brentford at home in the POs but other than that was probably one of our better players over those games - he certainly showed a mix of steel and skill in the away leg - the flick over the head to get away from their player was exceptional . Roberts was our best player over those games and was our ONLY outlet - until Storey and Collins were introduced in the 2nd leg . If he can continue the form he has shown under KMac then he will be a real asset! Its why we signed him in the first place - 4 PO appearances in a row! . Granted though he is on big wages - so shifting him on to free some up might be wise . If anyone doesn't put a shift in it is a certain Mr Williams who went missing in action for the entire POs - and most of 2013 actually! . Luongo and Macca would certainly provide enough steel in the middle - plus we have Navarro in there too - which sitting and protecting the back four is his speciality - i.e Notts Co game . But like Roberts - big earner so shifting him on to free some up might be wise . If we do shift Roberts and Navarro - we must replace them with other experienced heads though otherwise we will get over run - you can't have 11 kids out there! . Bury have nowhere near the budget we had but got Tom Soares from Stoke in - he is now free so could be a good option if Macca doesn't sign or Navarro moving on . Chris McCann has also been released from Burnely - only 25 but heaps of experience as he has been in thier first team since they won promotion to the Premiership under Coyle . There are plenty on players coming available all the time that we could completely revamp the squad and reduce the wage bill - but that obviously is mainly dependent on shifting our big earners . If they don't though go then we might as well use them! London Red
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12:52pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

As for Byrne hasn't this lightweight issue only come up since Rosler deployed Donaldson out wide in the PO's?
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Before that no one spoke about it and in fact was getting MOTM awards - especially after his shift to LB
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We won't be coming up against many Donaldson's so that shouldn't be an issue - and if we do surely that is what a squad is for and you adapt your team
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i.e. if you come up against a small lightweight quick forward - you don't use a powerhouse sluggish CB - you put one in who is quick in order to prevent a ball over the top leaving you exposed
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same for the FBs - if you have a powerhouse out wide adapt - for that one game
As for Byrne hasn't this lightweight issue only come up since Rosler deployed Donaldson out wide in the PO's? . Before that no one spoke about it and in fact was getting MOTM awards - especially after his shift to LB . We won't be coming up against many Donaldson's so that shouldn't be an issue - and if we do surely that is what a squad is for and you adapt your team . i.e. if you come up against a small lightweight quick forward - you don't use a powerhouse sluggish CB - you put one in who is quick in order to prevent a ball over the top leaving you exposed . same for the FBs - if you have a powerhouse out wide adapt - for that one game London Red
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12:55pm Thu 23 May 13

King Red says...

Sounds good to me! More on the way i think. We need hungry players and as said before, players move on. Flinty can go if he wants, lets get the most we can for him....

Has anybody read on the BBC website that Amatuer football club Bournemouth have recorded a loss of 3.4 Million and there are concerns over the company to remain trading! Wouldn't that be a shame....... How did they get away with that then football league?????
Sounds good to me! More on the way i think. We need hungry players and as said before, players move on. Flinty can go if he wants, lets get the most we can for him.... Has anybody read on the BBC website that Amatuer football club Bournemouth have recorded a loss of 3.4 Million and there are concerns over the company to remain trading! Wouldn't that be a shame....... How did they get away with that then football league????? King Red
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1:10pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Same way we did in L2 - by the backer prepared to pump in millions as equity
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Its once that stops they are screwed - just like we were/are!
Same way we did in L2 - by the backer prepared to pump in millions as equity . Its once that stops they are screwed - just like we were/are! London Red
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1:14pm Thu 23 May 13

King Red says...

London Red wrote:
Same way we did in L2 - by the backer prepared to pump in millions as equity
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Its once that stops they are screwed - just like we were/are!
Exactly! And when that happens where will that leave them? Much better to have a sustainable structured club, rather than rely on others.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Same way we did in L2 - by the backer prepared to pump in millions as equity . Its once that stops they are screwed - just like we were/are![/p][/quote]Exactly! And when that happens where will that leave them? Much better to have a sustainable structured club, rather than rely on others. King Red
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1:16pm Thu 23 May 13

Oxon-Red says...

London Red wrote:
Luongo - had a poorish 1st half against Brentford at home in the POs but other than that was probably one of our better players over those games - he certainly showed a mix of steel and skill in the away leg - the flick over the head to get away from their player was exceptional . Roberts was our best player over those games and was our ONLY outlet - until Storey and Collins were introduced in the 2nd leg . If he can continue the form he has shown under KMac then he will be a real asset! Its why we signed him in the first place - 4 PO appearances in a row! . Granted though he is on big wages - so shifting him on to free some up might be wise . If anyone doesn't put a shift in it is a certain Mr Williams who went missing in action for the entire POs - and most of 2013 actually! . Luongo and Macca would certainly provide enough steel in the middle - plus we have Navarro in there too - which sitting and protecting the back four is his speciality - i.e Notts Co game . But like Roberts - big earner so shifting him on to free some up might be wise . If we do shift Roberts and Navarro - we must replace them with other experienced heads though otherwise we will get over run - you can't have 11 kids out there! . Bury have nowhere near the budget we had but got Tom Soares from Stoke in - he is now free so could be a good option if Macca doesn't sign or Navarro moving on . Chris McCann has also been released from Burnely - only 25 but heaps of experience as he has been in thier first team since they won promotion to the Premiership under Coyle . There are plenty on players coming available all the time that we could completely revamp the squad and reduce the wage bill - but that obviously is mainly dependent on shifting our big earners . If they don't though go then we might as well use them!
LR,

You talk about players like McCann and think they will be cheap. Yet almost in the same breath you mention Roberts and how expensive he is ! Similar backgrounds, similar circumstances, similar wages I suspect.

I think sometimes you need to stop and think what the wages of more experienced players being released from Championship clubs might be and whether we would be able to afford them.

Youth on the other hand...

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Luongo - had a poorish 1st half against Brentford at home in the POs but other than that was probably one of our better players over those games - he certainly showed a mix of steel and skill in the away leg - the flick over the head to get away from their player was exceptional . Roberts was our best player over those games and was our ONLY outlet - until Storey and Collins were introduced in the 2nd leg . If he can continue the form he has shown under KMac then he will be a real asset! Its why we signed him in the first place - 4 PO appearances in a row! . Granted though he is on big wages - so shifting him on to free some up might be wise . If anyone doesn't put a shift in it is a certain Mr Williams who went missing in action for the entire POs - and most of 2013 actually! . Luongo and Macca would certainly provide enough steel in the middle - plus we have Navarro in there too - which sitting and protecting the back four is his speciality - i.e Notts Co game . But like Roberts - big earner so shifting him on to free some up might be wise . If we do shift Roberts and Navarro - we must replace them with other experienced heads though otherwise we will get over run - you can't have 11 kids out there! . Bury have nowhere near the budget we had but got Tom Soares from Stoke in - he is now free so could be a good option if Macca doesn't sign or Navarro moving on . Chris McCann has also been released from Burnely - only 25 but heaps of experience as he has been in thier first team since they won promotion to the Premiership under Coyle . There are plenty on players coming available all the time that we could completely revamp the squad and reduce the wage bill - but that obviously is mainly dependent on shifting our big earners . If they don't though go then we might as well use them![/p][/quote]LR, You talk about players like McCann and think they will be cheap. Yet almost in the same breath you mention Roberts and how expensive he is ! Similar backgrounds, similar circumstances, similar wages I suspect. I think sometimes you need to stop and think what the wages of more experienced players being released from Championship clubs might be and whether we would be able to afford them. Youth on the other hand... COYMR Oxon-Red
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1:19pm Thu 23 May 13

FORZASTFC says...

Can't see what the problem is with a good mix of youth & experienced players?
Really looking forward to next season with hope & anticipation?
Crewe seem to always do well with the youngsters drip fed into first team, so as long as they are mentored well, we will have a better future?
COYRS
Can't see what the problem is with a good mix of youth & experienced players? Really looking forward to next season with hope & anticipation? Crewe seem to always do well with the youngsters drip fed into first team, so as long as they are mentored well, we will have a better future? COYRS FORZASTFC
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1:25pm Thu 23 May 13

mattymoo says...

Some good news, hopefully we can add a few more quality young players to the squad in the coming weeks. We still have a strong core to the side with the likes of Foderingham, McEveley, Ward, Thompson, McCormack, Roberts, Storey, Collins, Williams and possibly Caddis and Flint if they take a U-turn/club decides to keep them and who knows what a proper full pre-season under the leadership of MacDonald will do for Troy, Luke Rooney, L Thompson, Oakley, Waldon, Cox, Ferguson et al. Plenty of reasons to be optimistic. Sure, it would be nice if the board were a bit more transparent but they saved us from administration and I would rather we offload key players on high wages so that we can survive than continue spending on players we can't afford. On another note, I noticed Charlie Austin has been linked with Hull City this morning. Does anyone know if we have a sale-on-fee? I heard rumours of 10%, if so that would be great as £5m would give us a healthy £500k!! Regards, A Positive Fan!!!
Some good news, hopefully we can add a few more quality young players to the squad in the coming weeks. We still have a strong core to the side with the likes of Foderingham, McEveley, Ward, Thompson, McCormack, Roberts, Storey, Collins, Williams and possibly Caddis and Flint if they take a U-turn/club decides to keep them and who knows what a proper full pre-season under the leadership of MacDonald will do for Troy, Luke Rooney, L Thompson, Oakley, Waldon, Cox, Ferguson et al. Plenty of reasons to be optimistic. Sure, it would be nice if the board were a bit more transparent but they saved us from administration and I would rather we offload key players on high wages so that we can survive than continue spending on players we can't afford. On another note, I noticed Charlie Austin has been linked with Hull City this morning. Does anyone know if we have a sale-on-fee? I heard rumours of 10%, if so that would be great as £5m would give us a healthy £500k!! Regards, A Positive Fan!!! mattymoo
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1:33pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

So How much would Tom Soares have been on at Stoke in the Premier League last season then Oxon?
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Yet he signed for Bury -Who's wage bill will be a fraction of ours!
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They also had Schumacher at the club who had come from Everton - so how much would he have been on there?
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Circumstances change and players adapt!
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Some will be able to hike their wages and others know they have to cut them - as smaller is better than none!
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We have no idea what wage he will be on
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He was a youth product so could be on relatively low wages as his base point would have been low - just like your description of Flint's potential stance!
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So while he may have had his salary boosted it may have only been a few hundred a week - so could still be on lowe thousands now?????
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So it is possible he could be on a similar wage to Ferry (£2.8k) - if that is the case then swapping that for the rumoured Navarro wage (£4k was out mooted top wage) and we are saving over £60k a year!
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Roberts is not the same as we had PdC and Wray prepared to pay whatever to land players - so Roberts probably got himself a massive payrise to sign on for us - just like Williams did from Yeovil
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Which is why we are likely to have thenm this season as no one will be prepared to pay it - they will be in for a shock next summer if they don't adapt!
So How much would Tom Soares have been on at Stoke in the Premier League last season then Oxon? . Yet he signed for Bury -Who's wage bill will be a fraction of ours! . They also had Schumacher at the club who had come from Everton - so how much would he have been on there? . Circumstances change and players adapt! . Some will be able to hike their wages and others know they have to cut them - as smaller is better than none! . We have no idea what wage he will be on . He was a youth product so could be on relatively low wages as his base point would have been low - just like your description of Flint's potential stance! . So while he may have had his salary boosted it may have only been a few hundred a week - so could still be on lowe thousands now????? . So it is possible he could be on a similar wage to Ferry (£2.8k) - if that is the case then swapping that for the rumoured Navarro wage (£4k was out mooted top wage) and we are saving over £60k a year! . Roberts is not the same as we had PdC and Wray prepared to pay whatever to land players - so Roberts probably got himself a massive payrise to sign on for us - just like Williams did from Yeovil . Which is why we are likely to have thenm this season as no one will be prepared to pay it - they will be in for a shock next summer if they don't adapt! London Red
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1:57pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Well a website call income match says McCann is on EUR 12k a week - so £10k
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If that is relaiable then he obviously is well out of price range
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Also seen Norwich and Swansea were after him just over a year ago - so don't expect him to be short off offers
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Still the point about plenty of other players hitting the market remain the same
Well a website call income match says McCann is on EUR 12k a week - so £10k . If that is relaiable then he obviously is well out of price range . Also seen Norwich and Swansea were after him just over a year ago - so don't expect him to be short off offers . Still the point about plenty of other players hitting the market remain the same London Red
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2:09pm Thu 23 May 13

cornishcrooky says...

I know I've been a moaner on here before, but with KMac's experience in youth set ups, and us cherry picking the best (and cheapest) youngsters who are hungry to play football, rather than having no ambition, I'm finally smiling about something relating to STFC for once!!
More of the same please!! (A striker next!)
I know I've been a moaner on here before, but with KMac's experience in youth set ups, and us cherry picking the best (and cheapest) youngsters who are hungry to play football, rather than having no ambition, I'm finally smiling about something relating to STFC for once!! More of the same please!! (A striker next!) cornishcrooky
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2:11pm Thu 23 May 13

Oxon-Red says...

London Red wrote:
So How much would Tom Soares have been on at Stoke in the Premier League last season then Oxon? . Yet he signed for Bury -Who's wage bill will be a fraction of ours! . They also had Schumacher at the club who had come from Everton - so how much would he have been on there? . Circumstances change and players adapt! . Some will be able to hike their wages and others know they have to cut them - as smaller is better than none! . We have no idea what wage he will be on . He was a youth product so could be on relatively low wages as his base point would have been low - just like your description of Flint's potential stance! . So while he may have had his salary boosted it may have only been a few hundred a week - so could still be on lowe thousands now????? . So it is possible he could be on a similar wage to Ferry (£2.8k) - if that is the case then swapping that for the rumoured Navarro wage (£4k was out mooted top wage) and we are saving over £60k a year! . Roberts is not the same as we had PdC and Wray prepared to pay whatever to land players - so Roberts probably got himself a massive payrise to sign on for us - just like Williams did from Yeovil . Which is why we are likely to have thenm this season as no one will be prepared to pay it - they will be in for a shock next summer if they don't adapt!
LR,

Bury were in a transfer embargo for the last 4-5 months of the season caused by exceeding the budget. Perhaps they were on more than you think !

Point is, the wage subject is constantly cropping up on this site and the players that are often quoted as being our higher wage earners are those with experience who came down from the Championship.

I don't know who earns what at STFC and I do wonder where some figures that are quoted come from but...

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: So How much would Tom Soares have been on at Stoke in the Premier League last season then Oxon? . Yet he signed for Bury -Who's wage bill will be a fraction of ours! . They also had Schumacher at the club who had come from Everton - so how much would he have been on there? . Circumstances change and players adapt! . Some will be able to hike their wages and others know they have to cut them - as smaller is better than none! . We have no idea what wage he will be on . He was a youth product so could be on relatively low wages as his base point would have been low - just like your description of Flint's potential stance! . So while he may have had his salary boosted it may have only been a few hundred a week - so could still be on lowe thousands now????? . So it is possible he could be on a similar wage to Ferry (£2.8k) - if that is the case then swapping that for the rumoured Navarro wage (£4k was out mooted top wage) and we are saving over £60k a year! . Roberts is not the same as we had PdC and Wray prepared to pay whatever to land players - so Roberts probably got himself a massive payrise to sign on for us - just like Williams did from Yeovil . Which is why we are likely to have thenm this season as no one will be prepared to pay it - they will be in for a shock next summer if they don't adapt![/p][/quote]LR, Bury were in a transfer embargo for the last 4-5 months of the season caused by exceeding the budget. Perhaps they were on more than you think ! Point is, the wage subject is constantly cropping up on this site and the players that are often quoted as being our higher wage earners are those with experience who came down from the Championship. I don't know who earns what at STFC and I do wonder where some figures that are quoted come from but... COYMR Oxon-Red
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2:12pm Thu 23 May 13

the wizard says...

What a difference a day makes, and good to see the raft of positives here.

Players will come and go, but Roberts is a conundrum, and I hope Kevin can unravel it before the season starts. For what it is worth I do think he has played better in his last few games, and his presence seems to be more threatening now. If he delivers performance, goals and balls into the box like we know he can I think he will be forgiven his high wages, lets hope so.
What a difference a day makes, and good to see the raft of positives here. Players will come and go, but Roberts is a conundrum, and I hope Kevin can unravel it before the season starts. For what it is worth I do think he has played better in his last few games, and his presence seems to be more threatening now. If he delivers performance, goals and balls into the box like we know he can I think he will be forgiven his high wages, lets hope so. the wizard
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3:20pm Thu 23 May 13

eastern red says...

cornishcrooky wrote:
I know I've been a moaner on here before, but with KMac's experience in youth set ups, and us cherry picking the best (and cheapest) youngsters who are hungry to play football, rather than having no ambition, I'm finally smiling about something relating to STFC for once!!
More of the same please!! (A striker next!)
What is there to be happy about , we haven' t actually signed him yet the story just claims we may be interested in him and all the other news is about the better players leaving. Yes we need to off load and trim the wage bill but we also want some more definite news about what the future holds. I for one am not as confident as others on here who believe that it's only a matter of time before the new signings start rolling in.
[quote][p][bold]cornishcrooky[/bold] wrote: I know I've been a moaner on here before, but with KMac's experience in youth set ups, and us cherry picking the best (and cheapest) youngsters who are hungry to play football, rather than having no ambition, I'm finally smiling about something relating to STFC for once!! More of the same please!! (A striker next!)[/p][/quote]What is there to be happy about , we haven' t actually signed him yet the story just claims we may be interested in him and all the other news is about the better players leaving. Yes we need to off load and trim the wage bill but we also want some more definite news about what the future holds. I for one am not as confident as others on here who believe that it's only a matter of time before the new signings start rolling in. eastern red
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3:23pm Thu 23 May 13

Oxon-Red says...

the wizard wrote:
What a difference a day makes, and good to see the raft of positives here. Players will come and go, but Roberts is a conundrum, and I hope Kevin can unravel it before the season starts. For what it is worth I do think he has played better in his last few games, and his presence seems to be more threatening now. If he delivers performance, goals and balls into the box like we know he can I think he will be forgiven his high wages, lets hope so.
Just don't mention Pulis :-)

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: What a difference a day makes, and good to see the raft of positives here. Players will come and go, but Roberts is a conundrum, and I hope Kevin can unravel it before the season starts. For what it is worth I do think he has played better in his last few games, and his presence seems to be more threatening now. If he delivers performance, goals and balls into the box like we know he can I think he will be forgiven his high wages, lets hope so.[/p][/quote]Just don't mention Pulis :-) COYMR Oxon-Red
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3:47pm Thu 23 May 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

I've watched the Doncaster game and the play off games back. Loungo is undoubtedly skilful on the ball and at the front of a three (or five man midfield) could possibly work. But he does not follow his runners frequently enough and is out of position to often. Being positive and this of course is only my opinion, not all yours, he could be taught it but my point when I say we need 11 players putting a shift in, is the discipline, heart and hunger that PDC brought.

Any team no matter how expensively or cheaply assembled can do this. Which brings me on to Roberts. Is a couple of games and the seasons end enough to justify the fact that he doesn't track back efficently enough and NEVER tackles. Both in the same team puts an unfair strain on the other eight outfield players.

Of course just my view. I'd be signing Byrne, like him. As I said all for signing hungry young players with points to prove. Consistently made the point about Paul Lambert throughout the last two years. Nothing has changed.
I've watched the Doncaster game and the play off games back. Loungo is undoubtedly skilful on the ball and at the front of a three (or five man midfield) could possibly work. But he does not follow his runners frequently enough and is out of position to often. Being positive and this of course is only my opinion, not all yours, he could be taught it but my point when I say we need 11 players putting a shift in, is the discipline, heart and hunger that PDC brought. Any team no matter how expensively or cheaply assembled can do this. Which brings me on to Roberts. Is a couple of games and the seasons end enough to justify the fact that he doesn't track back efficently enough and NEVER tackles. Both in the same team puts an unfair strain on the other eight outfield players. Of course just my view. I'd be signing Byrne, like him. As I said all for signing hungry young players with points to prove. Consistently made the point about Paul Lambert throughout the last two years. Nothing has changed. dreamofacleansheet2
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3:50pm Thu 23 May 13

the wizard says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
What a difference a day makes, and good to see the raft of positives here. Players will come and go, but Roberts is a conundrum, and I hope Kevin can unravel it before the season starts. For what it is worth I do think he has played better in his last few games, and his presence seems to be more threatening now. If he delivers performance, goals and balls into the box like we know he can I think he will be forgiven his high wages, lets hope so.
Just don't mention Pulis :-)

COYMR
OK mate no problem, I promise not to mention Tony Pulis, whoops, sorry, LOL,

but I'll try not to do it again, honest.

Hope you got your claim in, LOL.

Right then, stuff to do. laters.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: What a difference a day makes, and good to see the raft of positives here. Players will come and go, but Roberts is a conundrum, and I hope Kevin can unravel it before the season starts. For what it is worth I do think he has played better in his last few games, and his presence seems to be more threatening now. If he delivers performance, goals and balls into the box like we know he can I think he will be forgiven his high wages, lets hope so.[/p][/quote]Just don't mention Pulis :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]OK mate no problem, I promise not to mention Tony Pulis, whoops, sorry, LOL, but I'll try not to do it again, honest. Hope you got your claim in, LOL. Right then, stuff to do. laters. the wizard
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4:54pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Dreams - if you are judging on the Doncaster game they all should all be canned as not one person came out of that game with any credit what-so-ever!
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Your opinion - and your entitled to it of course - but as you said think you will be in a very small majority who don't think Luongo brought something to our team - especially as he played more than just 3 games
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Granted he was no Hollands - but would be a welcome addition to our squad for 2013/14 for the most of us
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As would Cristian Ceballos IMO - not sure why we didn't go for him last season?
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He seems exactly what we need - a wide forward who can create and score goals
Dreams - if you are judging on the Doncaster game they all should all be canned as not one person came out of that game with any credit what-so-ever! . Your opinion - and your entitled to it of course - but as you said think you will be in a very small majority who don't think Luongo brought something to our team - especially as he played more than just 3 games . Granted he was no Hollands - but would be a welcome addition to our squad for 2013/14 for the most of us . As would Cristian Ceballos IMO - not sure why we didn't go for him last season? . He seems exactly what we need - a wide forward who can create and score goals London Red
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5:14pm Thu 23 May 13

alchafreds says...

rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon
really hope that it is only rumour
rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour alchafreds
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5:22pm Thu 23 May 13

smirg kcab says...

alchafreds wrote:
rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon
really hope that it is only rumour
His name has been mentioned by the board as his shirt will cover the roofs if/when a concert goes on, just in case it rains.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour[/p][/quote]His name has been mentioned by the board as his shirt will cover the roofs if/when a concert goes on, just in case it rains. smirg kcab
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5:25pm Thu 23 May 13

Wilesy says...

I'm all for signing young hungry players, but need to be careful we don't pick up more of the big-time Perretts.

Would like to see some steel added to the midfield. Some height and strength. And some pace down the sides.

OK Byrne got battered by Donaldson, but we will see more of that next season as teams will spot the 5 ft 7 full back and bombard him. A good big un is always better than a good litte un as someone said before can't remember who, although admittedly Byrne is pacy and excellent with the ball at his feet I would play him as a winger though.

I would really try and get Hollands back thought he was great, Luongo was good would like him too those two should be plenty good enough for League 1.
I'm all for signing young hungry players, but need to be careful we don't pick up more of the big-time Perretts. Would like to see some steel added to the midfield. Some height and strength. And some pace down the sides. OK Byrne got battered by Donaldson, but we will see more of that next season as teams will spot the 5 ft 7 full back and bombard him. A good big un is always better than a good litte un as someone said before can't remember who, although admittedly Byrne is pacy and excellent with the ball at his feet I would play him as a winger though. I would really try and get Hollands back thought he was great, Luongo was good would like him too those two should be plenty good enough for League 1. Wilesy
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5:26pm Thu 23 May 13

stfcdod says...

alchafreds wrote:
rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon
really hope that it is only rumour
The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour[/p][/quote]The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors. stfcdod
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6:06pm Thu 23 May 13

mattymoo says...

Oops, should be "does anyone know if Charlie Austin have a sell-on fee"? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention Byrne in my earlier post as well, would be a good winger in front of McEveley or Thompson (or Caddis!!) next season.
Oops, should be "does anyone know if Charlie Austin have a sell-on fee"? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention Byrne in my earlier post as well, would be a good winger in front of McEveley or Thompson (or Caddis!!) next season. mattymoo
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6:11pm Thu 23 May 13

Bassett Hound says...

mattymoo wrote:
Oops, should be "does anyone know if Charlie Austin have a sell-on fee"? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention Byrne in my earlier post as well, would be a good winger in front of McEveley or Thompson (or Caddis!!) next season.
Natty moo

Yes. It's believed to be 20%
[quote][p][bold]mattymoo[/bold] wrote: Oops, should be "does anyone know if Charlie Austin have a sell-on fee"? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention Byrne in my earlier post as well, would be a good winger in front of McEveley or Thompson (or Caddis!!) next season.[/p][/quote]Natty moo Yes. It's believed to be 20% Bassett Hound
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6:12pm Thu 23 May 13

Bassett Hound says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
mattymoo wrote:
Oops, should be "does anyone know if Charlie Austin have a sell-on fee"? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention Byrne in my earlier post as well, would be a good winger in front of McEveley or Thompson (or Caddis!!) next season.
Natty moo

Yes. It's believed to be 20%
Sorry Matty
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mattymoo[/bold] wrote: Oops, should be "does anyone know if Charlie Austin have a sell-on fee"? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I forgot to mention Byrne in my earlier post as well, would be a good winger in front of McEveley or Thompson (or Caddis!!) next season.[/p][/quote]Natty moo Yes. It's believed to be 20%[/p][/quote]Sorry Matty Bassett Hound
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6:30pm Thu 23 May 13

BournemouthRobin says...

Good to see things are looking up with positive posters aplenty. Speaking of decent young midfielders, does anyone know what sort of salary/fee Bostock might be? Would be well chuffed to see him back - good player with a point to prove in England...
Good to see things are looking up with positive posters aplenty. Speaking of decent young midfielders, does anyone know what sort of salary/fee Bostock might be? Would be well chuffed to see him back - good player with a point to prove in England... BournemouthRobin
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6:31pm Thu 23 May 13

mattymoo says...

Cheers Bassett Hound! 20% would go a long way, here's hoping!!!
Cheers Bassett Hound! 20% would go a long way, here's hoping!!! mattymoo
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7:04pm Thu 23 May 13

Steve. Brentford says...

stfcdod wrote:
alchafreds wrote:
rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon
really hope that it is only rumour
The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.
I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour[/p][/quote]The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.[/p][/quote]I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert. Steve. Brentford
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7:06pm Thu 23 May 13

mancrobin says...

London Red wrote:
A young talented side will struggle to beat a team like Brentford - who are a upon talented side!
.
Moore (21) Dean (22) Logan (25) Bidwell (20) Forshaw (21) Adeyemi (21) Diagouraga ()
Trotta () and Forrester () along with the veterans Craig (28) and Donaldson (29) was the PO team!
Yes, good point. So maybe it's more how they are asked to play and with KMac in charge, you might hope he would bring out the best in younger players.

It is interesting to ponder whether it was the youth and inexperience of Brentford's squad that led them to fluff it on the brink of success twice? I know that Hansen quite rightly got panned for saying you can't win anything with kids but there is value in the mature head on some occasions.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: A young talented side will struggle to beat a team like Brentford - who are a upon talented side! . Moore (21) Dean (22) Logan (25) Bidwell (20) Forshaw (21) Adeyemi (21) Diagouraga () Trotta () and Forrester () along with the veterans Craig (28) and Donaldson (29) was the PO team![/p][/quote]Yes, good point. So maybe it's more how they are asked to play and with KMac in charge, you might hope he would bring out the best in younger players. It is interesting to ponder whether it was the youth and inexperience of Brentford's squad that led them to fluff it on the brink of success twice? I know that Hansen quite rightly got panned for saying you can't win anything with kids but there is value in the mature head on some occasions. mancrobin
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7:07pm Thu 23 May 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Bournemouth I'd have Bostock back every day of the week and London I'd have Hollands back to. Not sure we could afford either mind.

As Willsey says no more big time Charlie's like Perritt. He really did nothing in defence but when he left shined torch on Luongo and Roberts. Nothing to do with Doncaster game, all games I saw him but those games I could record and go back over to confirm to myself that my initial view was correct. Probably all academic if he doesn't come back.
Bournemouth I'd have Bostock back every day of the week and London I'd have Hollands back to. Not sure we could afford either mind. As Willsey says no more big time Charlie's like Perritt. He really did nothing in defence but when he left shined torch on Luongo and Roberts. Nothing to do with Doncaster game, all games I saw him but those games I could record and go back over to confirm to myself that my initial view was correct. Probably all academic if he doesn't come back. dreamofacleansheet2
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7:09pm Thu 23 May 13

madterrier says...

Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started.

I feel we've only just begun.
Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started. I feel we've only just begun. madterrier
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7:20pm Thu 23 May 13

Steve. Brentford says...

madterrier wrote:
Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started.

I feel we've only just begun.
OL no i have to say Terrier,
i cant smile without you.........
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started. I feel we've only just begun.[/p][/quote]OL no i have to say Terrier, i cant smile without you......... Steve. Brentford
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7:32pm Thu 23 May 13

madterrier says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
madterrier wrote:
Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started.

I feel we've only just begun.
OL no i have to say Terrier,
i cant smile without you.........
and one for the board...

'A Kind of Hush'
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started. I feel we've only just begun.[/p][/quote]OL no i have to say Terrier, i cant smile without you.........[/p][/quote]and one for the board... 'A Kind of Hush' madterrier
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7:32pm Thu 23 May 13

madterrier says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
madterrier wrote:
Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started.

I feel we've only just begun.
OL no i have to say Terrier,
i cant smile without you.........
and one for the board...

'A Kind of Hush'
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started. I feel we've only just begun.[/p][/quote]OL no i have to say Terrier, i cant smile without you.........[/p][/quote]and one for the board... 'A Kind of Hush' madterrier
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7:39pm Thu 23 May 13

Steve. Brentford says...

madterrier wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
madterrier wrote:
Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started.

I feel we've only just begun.
OL no i have to say Terrier,
i cant smile without you.........
and one for the board...

'A Kind of Hush'
"it`s going to take some time"
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Uh, oh. Carpenters jokes have started. I feel we've only just begun.[/p][/quote]OL no i have to say Terrier, i cant smile without you.........[/p][/quote]and one for the board... 'A Kind of Hush'[/p][/quote]"it`s going to take some time" Steve. Brentford
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7:43pm Thu 23 May 13

London Red says...

Don't forget all sell-ons are only o the profit part not total fee
.
Otherwise you could sell for a profit or make a loss!
.
Buy for £9m sell for £10m - make profit of £1m
.
Hand over 20% - £2m and you only get £8m - so end up with a £1m loss
.
So it would only be £200k handed over giving you a £800k profit
.
So £1.2m has to be removed before calculating the 20% we would get for Austin
.
Then we need to take 20% of that off I believe as Poole would be due it due to their sell on - unless Cox pass on was a one off
.
So £5m would net us £600k and Poole another £160k - or us £760k if we don't need to pay Poole anymore
Don't forget all sell-ons are only o the profit part not total fee . Otherwise you could sell for a profit or make a loss! . Buy for £9m sell for £10m - make profit of £1m . Hand over 20% - £2m and you only get £8m - so end up with a £1m loss . So it would only be £200k handed over giving you a £800k profit . So £1.2m has to be removed before calculating the 20% we would get for Austin . Then we need to take 20% of that off I believe as Poole would be due it due to their sell on - unless Cox pass on was a one off . So £5m would net us £600k and Poole another £160k - or us £760k if we don't need to pay Poole anymore London Red
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8:22pm Thu 23 May 13

matt71 says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Bournemouth I'd have Bostock back every day of the week and London I'd have Hollands back to. Not sure we could afford either mind.

As Willsey says no more big time Charlie's like Perritt. He really did nothing in defence but when he left shined torch on Luongo and Roberts. Nothing to do with Doncaster game, all games I saw him but those games I could record and go back over to confirm to myself that my initial view was correct. Probably all academic if he doesn't come back.
Bostock is playing for Toronto in the MLS and is earning only 60k for the season ,so we could afford him.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth I'd have Bostock back every day of the week and London I'd have Hollands back to. Not sure we could afford either mind. As Willsey says no more big time Charlie's like Perritt. He really did nothing in defence but when he left shined torch on Luongo and Roberts. Nothing to do with Doncaster game, all games I saw him but those games I could record and go back over to confirm to myself that my initial view was correct. Probably all academic if he doesn't come back.[/p][/quote]Bostock is playing for Toronto in the MLS and is earning only 60k for the season ,so we could afford him. matt71
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8:22pm Thu 23 May 13

stfcdod says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
stfcdod wrote:
alchafreds wrote:
rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon
really hope that it is only rumour
The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.
I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.
Indeed they are but rumour has it that the board are only prepared to pay for one of them to perform.
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour[/p][/quote]The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.[/p][/quote]I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.[/p][/quote]Indeed they are but rumour has it that the board are only prepared to pay for one of them to perform. stfcdod
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8:25pm Thu 23 May 13

Robinonfire says...

London Red wrote:
Don't forget all sell-ons are only o the profit part not total fee
.
Otherwise you could sell for a profit or make a loss!
.
Buy for £9m sell for £10m - make profit of £1m
.
Hand over 20% - £2m and you only get £8m - so end up with a £1m loss
.
So it would only be £200k handed over giving you a £800k profit
.
So £1.2m has to be removed before calculating the 20% we would get for Austin
.
Then we need to take 20% of that off I believe as Poole would be due it due to their sell on - unless Cox pass on was a one off
.
So £5m would net us £600k and Poole another £160k - or us £760k if we don't need to pay Poole anymore
Dont tell poole...let them have Williams.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Don't forget all sell-ons are only o the profit part not total fee . Otherwise you could sell for a profit or make a loss! . Buy for £9m sell for £10m - make profit of £1m . Hand over 20% - £2m and you only get £8m - so end up with a £1m loss . So it would only be £200k handed over giving you a £800k profit . So £1.2m has to be removed before calculating the 20% we would get for Austin . Then we need to take 20% of that off I believe as Poole would be due it due to their sell on - unless Cox pass on was a one off . So £5m would net us £600k and Poole another £160k - or us £760k if we don't need to pay Poole anymore[/p][/quote]Dont tell poole...let them have Williams. Robinonfire
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9:00pm Thu 23 May 13

jayden says...

stfcdod wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
stfcdod wrote:
alchafreds wrote:
rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon
really hope that it is only rumour
The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.
I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.
Indeed they are but rumour has it that the board are only prepared to pay for one of them to perform.
Where did you dig that one up from?
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour[/p][/quote]The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.[/p][/quote]I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.[/p][/quote]Indeed they are but rumour has it that the board are only prepared to pay for one of them to perform.[/p][/quote]Where did you dig that one up from? jayden
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1:15am Fri 24 May 13

Oxon-Red says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
stfcdod wrote:
alchafreds wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour
The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.
I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.
You'd have to dig Karen up first so she'd be able to 'Sing'.

She'd 'sing a song' and she'd 'keep it simple to last the whole day long'.

But not on a Monday or if there is precipitation in the air cos that gets her down.

She was asked about Matt Ritchie leaving and she was sad because she said 'Breaking up is hard to do' but because she had his autograph '(theres) always something there to remind me' of his time at the county ground.

Asked about reforming the squad she sang' Its only just begun' and 'its going to take some time' but if the fans 'get together' and 'sing' she would be 'on top of the world'.

I know banned for life :-0

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: rumours of akinfenwa joining swindon really hope that it is only rumour[/p][/quote]The carpenters have been at the CG all day, widening the doors.[/p][/quote]I hope that the carpenters are not the main attaction at the first concert.[/p][/quote]You'd have to dig Karen up first so she'd be able to 'Sing'. She'd 'sing a song' and she'd 'keep it simple to last the whole day long'. But not on a Monday or if there is precipitation in the air cos that gets her down. She was asked about Matt Ritchie leaving and she was sad because she said 'Breaking up is hard to do' but because she had his autograph '(theres) always something there to remind me' of his time at the county ground. Asked about reforming the squad she sang' Its only just begun' and 'its going to take some time' but if the fans 'get together' and 'sing' she would be 'on top of the world'. I know banned for life :-0 COYMR Oxon-Red
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6:54am Fri 24 May 13

Swindon1984 says...

God I hated the carpenters... Most godawful banal boring music in the history of pop, and there's some stiff competition there.
God I hated the carpenters... Most godawful banal boring music in the history of pop, and there's some stiff competition there. Swindon1984
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