SWINDON TOWN: Ranger dropped and told to improve behaviour

Swindon Advertiser: Town striker Nile Ranger Town striker Nile Ranger

NILE Ranger is set to be left out of the Swindon Town squad for tomorrow’s visit to Sheffield United due to continued concerns about his behaviour.

The former Newcastle forward missed a string of training sessions in November before being granted a leave of absence by the club as he prepares for his upcoming trial, although he has since returned to training with the first-team squad.

Having returned to the side from the bench during Town’s last League One game, a 3-0 win over Carlisle, it is now understood the 22-year-old arrived late for a number of sessions in the weeks following his return.

Speaking yesterday, manager Mark Cooper admitted Ranger had not simply been rested for Tuesday’s clash with Stevenage and when asked why the striker had been left out he answered: “Because he doesn’t behave like the rest of the players and until he does, and shows the rest of the players a bit more respect, he won’t feature.

“I’m not saying any more, but all I’m saying is he has to behave like the rest of the players to be considered for selection.”

Meanwhile, further details of the audit of the club, conducted by director Sangita Shah, are set to be made available in the coming days.

Shah released a simplified commentary yesterday having sent the full audit to Companies House, where it will soon be available to view.

Further details of the audit, which confirmed the club’s debt has been significantly reduced along with the wage bill, will also be discussed at the club’s next AGM, for which a date has yet to be set.

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9:14am Fri 13 Dec 13

Graham8181 says...

no surprise
no surprise Graham8181

9:15am Fri 13 Dec 13

bradley red 1 says...

Not surprised by rangers behaviour,should be told you have had your chance and you have not towed the line, and please now leave the club!! leopard with spots and all that.
Not surprised by rangers behaviour,should be told you have had your chance and you have not towed the line, and please now leave the club!! leopard with spots and all that. bradley red 1

9:41am Fri 13 Dec 13

Redgollum says...

I suppose that we are still paying him to do FA. He should be fired off.
I suppose that we are still paying him to do FA. He should be fired off. Redgollum

9:47am Fri 13 Dec 13

dacoo says...

how many chances does he need?! talk about taking a privilege for granted
how many chances does he need?! talk about taking a privilege for granted dacoo

9:56am Fri 13 Dec 13

castle9 says...

If he continues to turn up late and/or not do what is requested of him without the Management's agreement then he is in breach of contract.

We owe him nothing and he owes us everything, sounds like he has had enough chances. Time to instigate the termination process and we could then use our reduced salary resources on someone that wants to be a professional footballer.

About time that contracts for professional footballers were drawn up in the same way that they are for any other walk of life - if you don't deliver you are given support to turn things round, or if that doesnt work that you are supported out of the exit door.

BTW Is it my imagination or were the details of the audit supposed to be released yesterday??? Apart from a brief headline I don't believe anything else has been forthcoming.... do we rad anything into this??
If he continues to turn up late and/or not do what is requested of him without the Management's agreement then he is in breach of contract. We owe him nothing and he owes us everything, sounds like he has had enough chances. Time to instigate the termination process and we could then use our reduced salary resources on someone that wants to be a professional footballer. About time that contracts for professional footballers were drawn up in the same way that they are for any other walk of life - if you don't deliver you are given support to turn things round, or if that doesnt work that you are supported out of the exit door. BTW Is it my imagination or were the details of the audit supposed to be released yesterday??? Apart from a brief headline I don't believe anything else has been forthcoming.... do we rad anything into this?? castle9

9:58am Fri 13 Dec 13

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

I think the club have dealt with this in entirely the correct manner. We offered him a chance when he most needed it and didn't pre-judge the outcome of his court case.

When it appeared he was struggling to deal with the pressures we allowed him leeway and kept the issue in house.

When it looked as though he was abusing the club's understanding there was a thinly veiled public shot across the bows which he should have been grown up enough to understand, and now it appears he is giving his employer the opportunity to judge him by his behaviour to them, rather than any previous alleged misdemeanours.

Under the Italian he would have been thrown out within ten days, which would have not been the correct way to deal with him.

He is now on borrowed time and can expect the book to be thrown at him if he doesn't grow up and toe the line. Not for what he has done elsewhere, but for how he has acted at Swindon.
I think the club have dealt with this in entirely the correct manner. We offered him a chance when he most needed it and didn't pre-judge the outcome of his court case. When it appeared he was struggling to deal with the pressures we allowed him leeway and kept the issue in house. When it looked as though he was abusing the club's understanding there was a thinly veiled public shot across the bows which he should have been grown up enough to understand, and now it appears he is giving his employer the opportunity to judge him by his behaviour to them, rather than any previous alleged misdemeanours. Under the Italian he would have been thrown out within ten days, which would have not been the correct way to deal with him. He is now on borrowed time and can expect the book to be thrown at him if he doesn't grow up and toe the line. Not for what he has done elsewhere, but for how he has acted at Swindon. The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier

10:14am Fri 13 Dec 13

LeGod says...

Why oh why does he do it. He is no doubt talented but has got serious issues. The club took a risk on him and gave him the chance to get back into football. He has basically shat on the people that brought him into this club to give him another chance. He is a key player for us and you cannot knock him for his attitude on the pitch. The club needs to make a stance and it is not fair on the other players the way he behaves. He' had a chance then he goes AWOL he's given another chance and to me enough is enough. What he is doing is affecting the whole morale of the squad and is insulting the manager and Lee Power who both gave him the opportunity.
He has a mental problem of some sort or he is just a total idiot to keep doing what he's doing.
If this is his last chance with us he could regret what he has done for the rest of his life.
He can have the pleasure of playing football. - earning good money - having a privileged life and what does he do go into self destruct.
As much as i like him as a player he is taking the pith out of this club and to me he needs to go. Will anyone else give him a chance no doubt that will depend on his case in january.
Get your act together Nile or clear off.
Why oh why does he do it. He is no doubt talented but has got serious issues. The club took a risk on him and gave him the chance to get back into football. He has basically shat on the people that brought him into this club to give him another chance. He is a key player for us and you cannot knock him for his attitude on the pitch. The club needs to make a stance and it is not fair on the other players the way he behaves. He' had a chance then he goes AWOL he's given another chance and to me enough is enough. What he is doing is affecting the whole morale of the squad and is insulting the manager and Lee Power who both gave him the opportunity. He has a mental problem of some sort or he is just a total idiot to keep doing what he's doing. If this is his last chance with us he could regret what he has done for the rest of his life. He can have the pleasure of playing football. - earning good money - having a privileged life and what does he do go into self destruct. As much as i like him as a player he is taking the pith out of this club and to me he needs to go. Will anyone else give him a chance no doubt that will depend on his case in january. Get your act together Nile or clear off. LeGod

10:15am Fri 13 Dec 13

dazinblack says...

Get rid end of
Get rid end of dazinblack

10:31am Fri 13 Dec 13

RAYSPARROW says...

Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.
Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer. RAYSPARROW

10:40am Fri 13 Dec 13

sadgit says...

No more chances. Does not deserve to wear the mighty red shirt.
No more chances. Does not deserve to wear the mighty red shirt. sadgit

10:41am Fri 13 Dec 13

Robinonfire says...

Power wont be happy Ranger could be worth.. ££££££££££
£££s
Power wont be happy Ranger could be worth.. ££££££££££ £££s Robinonfire

10:46am Fri 13 Dec 13

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Power wont be happy Ranger could be worth.. ££££££££££

£££s
Power Ranger?
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Power wont be happy Ranger could be worth.. ££££££££££ £££s[/p][/quote]Power Ranger? The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier

10:54am Fri 13 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

Marmite Soldier has summarised perfectly. It's now his bad attitude to Swindon not his pre-STFC history thats the problem. Interested to see how long we put up with this nonsense. Compare his attitude to fitness fanatic Ajose....who has 9 goals in 17 games?

Ranger out Ajose in please.
Marmite Soldier has summarised perfectly. It's now his bad attitude to Swindon not his pre-STFC history thats the problem. Interested to see how long we put up with this nonsense. Compare his attitude to fitness fanatic Ajose....who has 9 goals in 17 games? Ranger out Ajose in please. Wilesy

10:59am Fri 13 Dec 13

oz ashes says...

could be that he knows he is going down and has given up
could be that he knows he is going down and has given up oz ashes

11:07am Fri 13 Dec 13

umpcah says...

oz ashes wrote:
could be that he knows he is going down and has given up
That`s just what I thought.
[quote][p][bold]oz ashes[/bold] wrote: could be that he knows he is going down and has given up[/p][/quote]That`s just what I thought. umpcah

11:09am Fri 13 Dec 13

Rebel_phish says...

SCHOOL REPORT
Nile Ranger.

Sport and PE.
- - - - - - - - -
Teachers Comments::
Gifted individual. Intelligent play maker. Tries hard in team sports. Has plenty of natural ability. If he can channel his efforts and with dedication to training and team spirit, he will excel.
Not good off the field of play. Disrespects authority and discipline. Poor time keeping.

Expected Target grade: A*
Achievement : B
Effort: C
Attitude: D
Attendance : Below Average.

Head's Comments:
Needs to focus his efforts, avoid distractions, listen to authority figures and take in advice when given. Has the potential to do well in chosen sport.
SCHOOL REPORT Nile Ranger. Sport and PE. - - - - - - - - - Teachers Comments:: Gifted individual. Intelligent play maker. Tries hard in team sports. Has plenty of natural ability. If he can channel his efforts and with dedication to training and team spirit, he will excel. Not good off the field of play. Disrespects authority and discipline. Poor time keeping. Expected Target grade: A* Achievement : B Effort: C Attitude: D Attendance : Below Average. Head's Comments: Needs to focus his efforts, avoid distractions, listen to authority figures and take in advice when given. Has the potential to do well in chosen sport. Rebel_phish

12:39pm Fri 13 Dec 13

the don69 says...

Rebel_phish wrote:
SCHOOL REPORT
Nile Ranger.

Sport and PE.
- - - - - - - - -
Teachers Comments::
Gifted individual. Intelligent play maker. Tries hard in team sports. Has plenty of natural ability. If he can channel his efforts and with dedication to training and team spirit, he will excel.
Not good off the field of play. Disrespects authority and discipline. Poor time keeping.

Expected Target grade: A*
Achievement : B
Effort: C
Attitude: D
Attendance : Below Average.

Head's Comments:
Needs to focus his efforts, avoid distractions, listen to authority figures and take in advice when given. Has the potential to do well in chosen sport.
Six of the best and 1,000 lines headmaster!lol!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]Rebel_phish[/bold] wrote: SCHOOL REPORT Nile Ranger. Sport and PE. - - - - - - - - - Teachers Comments:: Gifted individual. Intelligent play maker. Tries hard in team sports. Has plenty of natural ability. If he can channel his efforts and with dedication to training and team spirit, he will excel. Not good off the field of play. Disrespects authority and discipline. Poor time keeping. Expected Target grade: A* Achievement : B Effort: C Attitude: D Attendance : Below Average. Head's Comments: Needs to focus his efforts, avoid distractions, listen to authority figures and take in advice when given. Has the potential to do well in chosen sport.[/p][/quote]Six of the best and 1,000 lines headmaster!lol!!!!!! ! the don69

12:41pm Fri 13 Dec 13

stfc2012 says...

Sport, as someone else pointed out, is a microcosm of life and therefore will have under-achievers. It's up to him what to do with it and no one else. He's clearly not a responder so will have to find his own way back. He'll live with the consequences. Interesting to see what happens in his trial.
Sport, as someone else pointed out, is a microcosm of life and therefore will have under-achievers. It's up to him what to do with it and no one else. He's clearly not a responder so will have to find his own way back. He'll live with the consequences. Interesting to see what happens in his trial. stfc2012

12:42pm Fri 13 Dec 13

LeGod says...

On the game tomorrow at Sheffield this is going to be a tough game and i would imagine it will be similar to the Preston game where they will be physical and direct. I hope we have learnt our lesson form that game as looking at other fixtures i think we have the hardest game based on our away record.
Sheffield are on a decent run and there is no way they are going to stay in their current position with Clough in charge and with some additions in January ican see them climbing the table.
We need to be right on our game tomorrow as i feel they are going to go at us right from the off to put us under pressure. They are big and physical and like most teams will know our vunerable areas so i hope Ward and Hall are going to be a couple of warriors tomorrow.
Ranger will be a big miss but if we play to our capabilities as we will be a better footballing side than them we could get a result if we get bullied were in for a bad result.
Good Luck Town
On the game tomorrow at Sheffield this is going to be a tough game and i would imagine it will be similar to the Preston game where they will be physical and direct. I hope we have learnt our lesson form that game as looking at other fixtures i think we have the hardest game based on our away record. Sheffield are on a decent run and there is no way they are going to stay in their current position with Clough in charge and with some additions in January ican see them climbing the table. We need to be right on our game tomorrow as i feel they are going to go at us right from the off to put us under pressure. They are big and physical and like most teams will know our vunerable areas so i hope Ward and Hall are going to be a couple of warriors tomorrow. Ranger will be a big miss but if we play to our capabilities as we will be a better footballing side than them we could get a result if we get bullied were in for a bad result. Good Luck Town LeGod

1:26pm Fri 13 Dec 13

old town robin says...

RAYSPARROW wrote:
Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.
What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world.

We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics.

If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.
[quote][p][bold]RAYSPARROW[/bold] wrote: Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.[/p][/quote]What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world. We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics. If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January. old town robin

1:42pm Fri 13 Dec 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Look in the mirror Nile.

This lad has no respect for anyone let alone himself.
I find that quite sad to be honest.

Has talent but heading like so many footballers into a deep hole which he will never come out of.
Look in the mirror Nile. This lad has no respect for anyone let alone himself. I find that quite sad to be honest. Has talent but heading like so many footballers into a deep hole which he will never come out of. TheDukeOfBanbury

2:01pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Steve. Brentford says...

Liberty taking waste of space, the sooner he is outed the better.
Ajose needs a 2yr contract and we need Ajose.
Liberty taking waste of space, the sooner he is outed the better. Ajose needs a 2yr contract and we need Ajose. Steve. Brentford

2:41pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Steve. Brentford says...

old town robin wrote:
RAYSPARROW wrote: Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.
What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world. We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics. If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.
Good post from the former Pinehurst boy.
And a yes please to Paddy Madden not the hold up player some are saying we need but very very capable at this level and a player who when confident last season done extremely well in a mediocre side.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RAYSPARROW[/bold] wrote: Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.[/p][/quote]What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world. We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics. If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.[/p][/quote]Good post from the former Pinehurst boy. And a yes please to Paddy Madden not the hold up player some are saying we need but very very capable at this level and a player who when confident last season done extremely well in a mediocre side. Steve. Brentford

2:52pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Metal Gear says...

agree with most of the comments on here we gave Ranger a decent chance to regularly play week in week out despite his reputation and he's thrown it back at us.

Just because he's played in Premiership doesn't make him above all the other players at the club. From the sounds of it he's disrupting the squad with his attitude and lateness. It this continues I'll be glad to see the back of him.
agree with most of the comments on here we gave Ranger a decent chance to regularly play week in week out despite his reputation and he's thrown it back at us. Just because he's played in Premiership doesn't make him above all the other players at the club. From the sounds of it he's disrupting the squad with his attitude and lateness. It this continues I'll be glad to see the back of him. Metal Gear

3:04pm Fri 13 Dec 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

I think Power and Cooper are playing it perfectly (in the clubs interest). He didn't cost anything. We won't play him whilst he acts like an idiot, but of course the pressure he's under is difficult to fathom.

If and it's obviously a big if, he's proven innocent, and he knuckles down we'll have a player that will be worth a few quid. As unpalatable as said will be to a lot of people that's my (un) educated guess to how Lee Power sees it.

Will be very interesting to see what the new year brings. I'll start with a JPT trophy please......
I think Power and Cooper are playing it perfectly (in the clubs interest). He didn't cost anything. We won't play him whilst he acts like an idiot, but of course the pressure he's under is difficult to fathom. If and it's obviously a big if, he's proven innocent, and he knuckles down we'll have a player that will be worth a few quid. As unpalatable as said will be to a lot of people that's my (un) educated guess to how Lee Power sees it. Will be very interesting to see what the new year brings. I'll start with a JPT trophy please...... dreamofacleansheet2

3:31pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

umpcah wrote:
oz ashes wrote:
could be that he knows he is going down and has given up
That`s just what I thought.
Chaps, isn't he just doing what he's done everywhere else, when he didn't any forthcoming trial hanging over him?

He was very lucky the club gave him the chance in the first place and it's now clear he's continually disrespected that goodwillI. It's all very well for Power to tell us Ranger's really not a bad lad but I don't see how Cooper can be expected to do his job properly with all the going on. Enough is enough.
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oz ashes[/bold] wrote: could be that he knows he is going down and has given up[/p][/quote]That`s just what I thought.[/p][/quote]Chaps, isn't he just doing what he's done everywhere else, when he didn't any forthcoming trial hanging over him? He was very lucky the club gave him the chance in the first place and it's now clear he's continually disrespected that goodwillI. It's all very well for Power to tell us Ranger's really not a bad lad but I don't see how Cooper can be expected to do his job properly with all the going on. Enough is enough. Oi Den!

3:32pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?
....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted? The Jockster

3:51pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

Unfortunately as far as we are led to believe, even with giving the guy compassionate leave he is determined to wreck his career.
Whilst I believe the club and a lot of supporters cut him some slack with this court case pending, he just seems to have allegedly abused this.
My gut reaction initially' when this news broke about him a while back was to 'sack him', but like others said give him the benefit of the doubt, and I could see their point of view.
Well this just seems to be getting worse and worse now - cut our loses and let him move on, before he disrupts things any more.
He probably feels he is above L1 football, which is probably true, but his attitude stinks if all this is true.
Unfortunately as far as we are led to believe, even with giving the guy compassionate leave he is determined to wreck his career. Whilst I believe the club and a lot of supporters cut him some slack with this court case pending, he just seems to have allegedly abused this. My gut reaction initially' when this news broke about him a while back was to 'sack him', but like others said give him the benefit of the doubt, and I could see their point of view. Well this just seems to be getting worse and worse now - cut our loses and let him move on, before he disrupts things any more. He probably feels he is above L1 football, which is probably true, but his attitude stinks if all this is true. Chish and Fips

3:51pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

The Jockster wrote:
....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?
Careful...
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: ....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?[/p][/quote]Careful... Oi Den!

4:00pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ging999 says...

old town robin wrote:
RAYSPARROW wrote:
Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.
What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world.

We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics.

If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.
I know who Kevin Hector is but I don't remember him playing for us. By the way, he is currently aged 69. What are you talking about ?
Have you been on the Christmas tipple a little early ?
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RAYSPARROW[/bold] wrote: Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.[/p][/quote]What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world. We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics. If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.[/p][/quote]I know who Kevin Hector is but I don't remember him playing for us. By the way, he is currently aged 69. What are you talking about ? Have you been on the Christmas tipple a little early ? ging999

4:02pm Fri 13 Dec 13

bradley red 1 says...

Have they not kicked this guy out yet?? get rid mr power.
Have they not kicked this guy out yet?? get rid mr power. bradley red 1

4:27pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Oi Den! wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?
Careful...
Not implicating anyone :) just seems topical at the moment
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: ....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?[/p][/quote]Careful...[/p][/quote]Not implicating anyone :) just seems topical at the moment The Jockster

4:33pm Fri 13 Dec 13

LeGod says...

old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.
old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now. LeGod

4:37pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Gladiator says...

22 Years old and nearly on the football scrap heap. Nile is such a talent, what a waste! We don't want to be messing around with this sort of behaviour and, I think we should let him go!
22 Years old and nearly on the football scrap heap. Nile is such a talent, what a waste! We don't want to be messing around with this sort of behaviour and, I think we should let him go! The Gladiator

4:38pm Fri 13 Dec 13

alchafreds says...

like ranger we are better with him, But enough is enough terminate his contract because he is not honouring it, get someone in who wants to play for swindon town. A player who gives 100% and scores 15 goals a season is better than a big time charlie who scores 20
like ranger we are better with him, But enough is enough terminate his contract because he is not honouring it, get someone in who wants to play for swindon town. A player who gives 100% and scores 15 goals a season is better than a big time charlie who scores 20 alchafreds

4:43pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ciclosporindorset says...

The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?
Careful...
Not implicating anyone :) just seems topical at the moment
yes of course. butter etc.................
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[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: ....and then there is spot fixing, I wonder to just how far the insidious tentacles of that nasty little virus have spread since football got tainted?[/p][/quote]Careful...[/p][/quote]Not implicating anyone :) just seems topical at the moment[/p][/quote]yes of course. butter etc................. .................... ...... ciclosporindorset

4:44pm Fri 13 Dec 13

stranglers says...

Get rid, should of done it weeks ago and saved a few quid.
Get rid, should of done it weeks ago and saved a few quid. stranglers

5:05pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

This is not dissimilar to when PDC went to Sunderland and everyone said watch out he's trouble it will all end in tears. The Sunderland fans were hopeful and after the derby and keeping them up thought he would be the man......

Newcastle didn't kick Ranger out and pay him off without good reason. Unfortunately whilst it was nice to see him play well and score some goals here it has come to the surprise of virtually no-one that this has happened and his days appear to be numbered.

I feel sorry for Cooper he doesn't need all this going on.
This is not dissimilar to when PDC went to Sunderland and everyone said watch out he's trouble it will all end in tears. The Sunderland fans were hopeful and after the derby and keeping them up thought he would be the man...... Newcastle didn't kick Ranger out and pay him off without good reason. Unfortunately whilst it was nice to see him play well and score some goals here it has come to the surprise of virtually no-one that this has happened and his days appear to be numbered. I feel sorry for Cooper he doesn't need all this going on. Wilesy

5:06pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ging999 says...

LeGod wrote:
old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.
Thanks LeGod..........I didn't see that connection. Makes sense now.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.[/p][/quote]Thanks LeGod..........I didn't see that connection. Makes sense now. ging999

5:15pm Fri 13 Dec 13

the wizard says...

In recent years we have had good guys that haven't had the amount of raw talent and ability Ranger has. Yet they worked their butts off, toiled and scrapped to get onto the bench and could hold their heads high, as hard working sincere clean living individuals.
On the other hand, we now have a naturally gifted player, who can turn players, score goals, pass the ball and lay it off for others to score, and yet, even though we are his "last chance saloon" he continues to bite the hand that feeds him.
Time for him to rev up, suck back, and do one. All he will do is demoralize those around him, and for what we have done for him, we don't deserve that. Sorry Nile, you had better flow away from these shores.
In recent years we have had good guys that haven't had the amount of raw talent and ability Ranger has. Yet they worked their butts off, toiled and scrapped to get onto the bench and could hold their heads high, as hard working sincere clean living individuals. On the other hand, we now have a naturally gifted player, who can turn players, score goals, pass the ball and lay it off for others to score, and yet, even though we are his "last chance saloon" he continues to bite the hand that feeds him. Time for him to rev up, suck back, and do one. All he will do is demoralize those around him, and for what we have done for him, we don't deserve that. Sorry Nile, you had better flow away from these shores. the wizard

5:18pm Fri 13 Dec 13

the wizard says...

ging999 wrote:
LeGod wrote:
old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.
Thanks LeGod..........I didn't see that connection. Makes sense now.
I see Caddis score a pen again on Saturday. Seems he is one of their best players.
[quote][p][bold]ging999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.[/p][/quote]Thanks LeGod..........I didn't see that connection. Makes sense now.[/p][/quote]I see Caddis score a pen again on Saturday. Seems he is one of their best players. the wizard

5:43pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
old town robin wrote:
RAYSPARROW wrote: Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.
What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world. We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics. If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.
Good post from the former Pinehurst boy.
And a yes please to Paddy Madden not the hold up player some are saying we need but very very capable at this level and a player who when confident last season done extremely well in a mediocre side.
Not sure about Madden. Isn't he out of favour at Yeovil because his attitude ?

A good season with Yeovil but we have seen that before with Andy Williams, though I liked him I am sure someone would find a name for him, Maddy maybe !!

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RAYSPARROW[/bold] wrote: Some people would give their right arm to be a professional footballer.[/p][/quote]What does he find so hard about getting out of bed in the morning, if he had to work the unsocial hours that many of the fans have to, then I think he would have a rude awakening of how life is in the real world. We still need a player up front that can hold the ball up. If he doesn't want to do that for us, then we should get rid and bring someone else in that does, preferably with the same work ethics and attributes of Kevin Hector who was 10k over weight when he arrived, worked really hard to lose the excess did a great job for us leading the line, even if he didn't score many, centre backs couldn't handle him. Now he is doing a fantastic job in the Championship for Derby and added scoring goals to his game. The boy had a lot to prove after being let go by Norwich and IMO has taken his chance to turn things round in his career and has more than answered his critics. If we do get rid of Ranger, I still think we might go back for Paddy Madden who had a good season at Yeovil at this level even though it has not worked out for him in the Championship, a swap for Williams might have been a solution if he had remained fit. Power already has said we would have taken him if it had not been for his agent, now 2 months later things have not improved for him so maybe some second thought from their side may see us take him on loan to at least build his confidence and match fitness. Whatever the outcome, I'm sure Lee will have some ideas of who he wants in January.[/p][/quote]Good post from the former Pinehurst boy. And a yes please to Paddy Madden not the hold up player some are saying we need but very very capable at this level and a player who when confident last season done extremely well in a mediocre side.[/p][/quote]Not sure about Madden. Isn't he out of favour at Yeovil because his attitude ? A good season with Yeovil but we have seen that before with Andy Williams, though I liked him I am sure someone would find a name for him, Maddy maybe !! COYMR Oxon-Red

5:55pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

LeGod wrote:
old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.
Quite right le god everyone knows Chris Martin is married to Gwyneth Paltrow :)
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.[/p][/quote]Quite right le god everyone knows Chris Martin is married to Gwyneth Paltrow :) The Jockster

5:59pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

The Jockster wrote:
LeGod wrote:
old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.
Quite right le god everyone knows Chris Martin is married to Gwyneth Paltrow :)
He wasn't when he was a member of the same golf society as me. Must have married her since I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: old town robin - he's referring to Chris Martin not Kevin Hector how the hell he got mixed up is beyond me. Martin is banging them in for Derby and apparently is really fit and playing well. As you said when he came to us he was overweight and unfit but that was due to him not playing regulalry when at Norwich. When you look at the players we had Martin - Caddis- Ritchie we'd be top of the league now.[/p][/quote]Quite right le god everyone knows Chris Martin is married to Gwyneth Paltrow :)[/p][/quote]He wasn't when he was a member of the same golf society as me. Must have married her since I suppose. Oi Den!

6:01pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
In recent years we have had good guys that haven't had the amount of raw talent and ability Ranger has. Yet they worked their butts off, toiled and scrapped to get onto the bench and could hold their heads high, as hard working sincere clean living individuals.
On the other hand, we now have a naturally gifted player, who can turn players, score goals, pass the ball and lay it off for others to score, and yet, even though we are his "last chance saloon" he continues to bite the hand that feeds him.
Time for him to rev up, suck back, and do one. All he will do is demoralize those around him, and for what we have done for him, we don't deserve that. Sorry Nile, you had better flow away from these shores.
Wizard up and until now I have given Ranger the benefit of the doubt regarding his behaviour past and present. He appears to have had numerous chances during his career not least a few since he came to STFC. I think my tolerance is now at an end and Nile Ranger has ve on a Vile Danger.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: In recent years we have had good guys that haven't had the amount of raw talent and ability Ranger has. Yet they worked their butts off, toiled and scrapped to get onto the bench and could hold their heads high, as hard working sincere clean living individuals. On the other hand, we now have a naturally gifted player, who can turn players, score goals, pass the ball and lay it off for others to score, and yet, even though we are his "last chance saloon" he continues to bite the hand that feeds him. Time for him to rev up, suck back, and do one. All he will do is demoralize those around him, and for what we have done for him, we don't deserve that. Sorry Nile, you had better flow away from these shores.[/p][/quote]Wizard up and until now I have given Ranger the benefit of the doubt regarding his behaviour past and present. He appears to have had numerous chances during his career not least a few since he came to STFC. I think my tolerance is now at an end and Nile Ranger has ve on a Vile Danger. The Jockster

6:23pm Fri 13 Dec 13

MITTED says...

All very sad and unfortunate because Sheff Utd away is Ranger's type of game. I can't help but see NGuessan and Ajose being serious bullied out of the game tomorrow. Hope I'm wrong.
COYR
All very sad and unfortunate because Sheff Utd away is Ranger's type of game. I can't help but see NGuessan and Ajose being serious bullied out of the game tomorrow. Hope I'm wrong. COYR MITTED

6:24pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Ve on = become
Ve on = become The Jockster

6:26pm Fri 13 Dec 13

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote:
In recent years we have had good guys that haven't had the amount of raw talent and ability Ranger has. Yet they worked their butts off, toiled and scrapped to get onto the bench and could hold their heads high, as hard working sincere clean living individuals.
On the other hand, we now have a naturally gifted player, who can turn players, score goals, pass the ball and lay it off for others to score, and yet, even though we are his "last chance saloon" he continues to bite the hand that feeds him.
Time for him to rev up, suck back, and do one. All he will do is demoralize those around him, and for what we have done for him, we don't deserve that. Sorry Nile, you had better flow away from these shores.
Wizard up and until now I have given Ranger the benefit of the doubt regarding his behaviour past and present. He appears to have had numerous chances during his career not least a few since he came to STFC. I think my tolerance is now at an end and Nile Ranger has ve on a Vile Danger.
He has had enough rope at Newcastle to hang himself, I would have thought coming here was a good second chance, but his old bad habits seem to have come back to haunt him again.
Far too easily distracted away from what he is good at., yet another lad with too much fame and fortune early in his life which will lead to his downfall. A big fool to himself. Shame Boot Camp can't get it out of him. The real annoying thing is, he is a good footballer, who cannot handle what comes with it. The Thompson boys could teach him a lot.

Perhaps if he lived with PDC in Italy for a couple of months it may straighten him out and give him some fear and fortitude to live his life in a different way. Watching it roll out would be an education, in more ways than one, lol. Would he last the term ?
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: In recent years we have had good guys that haven't had the amount of raw talent and ability Ranger has. Yet they worked their butts off, toiled and scrapped to get onto the bench and could hold their heads high, as hard working sincere clean living individuals. On the other hand, we now have a naturally gifted player, who can turn players, score goals, pass the ball and lay it off for others to score, and yet, even though we are his "last chance saloon" he continues to bite the hand that feeds him. Time for him to rev up, suck back, and do one. All he will do is demoralize those around him, and for what we have done for him, we don't deserve that. Sorry Nile, you had better flow away from these shores.[/p][/quote]Wizard up and until now I have given Ranger the benefit of the doubt regarding his behaviour past and present. He appears to have had numerous chances during his career not least a few since he came to STFC. I think my tolerance is now at an end and Nile Ranger has ve on a Vile Danger.[/p][/quote]He has had enough rope at Newcastle to hang himself, I would have thought coming here was a good second chance, but his old bad habits seem to have come back to haunt him again. Far too easily distracted away from what he is good at., yet another lad with too much fame and fortune early in his life which will lead to his downfall. A big fool to himself. Shame Boot Camp can't get it out of him. The real annoying thing is, he is a good footballer, who cannot handle what comes with it. The Thompson boys could teach him a lot. Perhaps if he lived with PDC in Italy for a couple of months it may straighten him out and give him some fear and fortitude to live his life in a different way. Watching it roll out would be an education, in more ways than one, lol. Would he last the term ? the wizard

6:49pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Hate to say it but Nile is a lost cause for any football club and he has tweeted his HEAD IS GONE and that he is a WRONGAN well there is no hope really and Cooper should sack him for breach of contract. If any of us behaved like this we would be fired long ago. What a waste of talent certainly way above this league but never going to take yet another chance given to him. He should have the balls to front Power and Cooper and tell them he just can't cut it at the moment and they should do the right thing and fire him. This is basically another waster taking money out of the club like a few other deadbeats we seem to collect. I really hope Power does his homework on any new players unlike the last guy that nearly broke the club.
Hate to say it but Nile is a lost cause for any football club and he has tweeted his HEAD IS GONE and that he is a WRONGAN well there is no hope really and Cooper should sack him for breach of contract. If any of us behaved like this we would be fired long ago. What a waste of talent certainly way above this league but never going to take yet another chance given to him. He should have the balls to front Power and Cooper and tell them he just can't cut it at the moment and they should do the right thing and fire him. This is basically another waster taking money out of the club like a few other deadbeats we seem to collect. I really hope Power does his homework on any new players unlike the last guy that nearly broke the club. Di kanny oh

7:05pm Fri 13 Dec 13

port de soller says...

My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one.
I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK
so compassion is the word back the guy
Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done.

If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break
My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one. I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK so compassion is the word back the guy Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done. If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break port de soller

7:13pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

port de soller wrote:
My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one.
I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK
so compassion is the word back the guy
Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done.

If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break
Cooper has all the other players to keep in check so what do you suggest he bends the rules for one player beyond help it seems. The Town have given this guy chances and he does not care less so its time to get real and sack him. Cooper is certainly what you have called him.
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one. I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK so compassion is the word back the guy Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done. If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break[/p][/quote]Cooper has all the other players to keep in check so what do you suggest he bends the rules for one player beyond help it seems. The Town have given this guy chances and he does not care less so its time to get real and sack him. Cooper is certainly what you have called him. Di kanny oh

7:24pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
port de soller wrote:
My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one.
I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK
so compassion is the word back the guy
Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done.

If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break
Cooper has all the other players to keep in check so what do you suggest he bends the rules for one player beyond help it seems. The Town have given this guy chances and he does not care less so its time to get real and sack him. Cooper is certainly what you have called him.
Meant to say Cooper is NOT what you called him.
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one. I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK so compassion is the word back the guy Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done. If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break[/p][/quote]Cooper has all the other players to keep in check so what do you suggest he bends the rules for one player beyond help it seems. The Town have given this guy chances and he does not care less so its time to get real and sack him. Cooper is certainly what you have called him.[/p][/quote]Meant to say Cooper is NOT what you called him. Di kanny oh

8:13pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Gladiator says...

port de soller wrote:
My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one.
I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK
so compassion is the word back the guy
Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done.

If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break
What a stupid remark ref. Cooper! How hard is it to get to work on time? Especially when its a job I would have given my right arm to be able to do! Ranger has been given enough chances! I remember his comments thanking Swindon for giving him a chance to turn his life around! Ranger you are a talented player but if your treat our club and your team mates with a total lack of respect then there is only one you can go!
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one. I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK so compassion is the word back the guy Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done. If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break[/p][/quote]What a stupid remark ref. Cooper! How hard is it to get to work on time? Especially when its a job I would have given my right arm to be able to do! Ranger has been given enough chances! I remember his comments thanking Swindon for giving him a chance to turn his life around! Ranger you are a talented player but if your treat our club and your team mates with a total lack of respect then there is only one you can go! The Gladiator

8:15pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ging999 says...

port de soller wrote:
My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one.
I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK
so compassion is the word back the guy
Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done.

If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break
Why do you always write stuff on here that makes you look stupid ?.
Crawl back under your stone please.
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one. I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK so compassion is the word back the guy Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done. If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break[/p][/quote]Why do you always write stuff on here that makes you look stupid ?. Crawl back under your stone please. ging999

8:30pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Jets there'd says...

Nile has obviously got problems & whilst football is his life he can't get into gear at the moment. Give the bloke a break & hopefully he'll turn it around.
Sure a manager has to have a constant approach but sometimes you have to treat people individually & do what's right for them. "Different stroke for different folks".
Let's hope Nile is OK, remember this guy is under immense pressure but you're innocent until proven guilty in this country.
Nile has obviously got problems & whilst football is his life he can't get into gear at the moment. Give the bloke a break & hopefully he'll turn it around. Sure a manager has to have a constant approach but sometimes you have to treat people individually & do what's right for them. "Different stroke for different folks". Let's hope Nile is OK, remember this guy is under immense pressure but you're innocent until proven guilty in this country. Jets there'd

9:03pm Fri 13 Dec 13

joey butler says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Liberty taking waste of space, the sooner he is outed the better.
Ajose needs a 2yr contract and we need Ajose.
Congratulations on your short but deadly accurate post Steve.

Correct, Ranger is a waste of space and correct, we need Ajose badly, both issues very close to my heart for several months.
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Liberty taking waste of space, the sooner he is outed the better. Ajose needs a 2yr contract and we need Ajose.[/p][/quote]Congratulations on your short but deadly accurate post Steve. Correct, Ranger is a waste of space and correct, we need Ajose badly, both issues very close to my heart for several months. joey butler

9:10pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Stuie ala port de soller aka Mallorca - your remark re Cooper is way way off beam and unfortunately emphasises just how much you miss being out on a limb in the Balearics - indeed some might say that that is just what you are talking! FYI Cooper has probably given him more chances than you'd find on a Monopoly board- so please don't accuse him of being a Barclays because he isn't. The forum awaits yor apology me old china!
Stuie ala port de soller aka Mallorca - your remark re Cooper is way way off beam and unfortunately emphasises just how much you miss being out on a limb in the Balearics - indeed some might say that that is just what you are talking! FYI Cooper has probably given him more chances than you'd find on a Monopoly board- so please don't accuse him of being a Barclays because he isn't. The forum awaits yor apology me old china! The Jockster

9:20pm Fri 13 Dec 13

jayden says...

Jets there'd wrote:
Nile has obviously got problems & whilst football is his life he can't get into gear at the moment. Give the bloke a break & hopefully he'll turn it around.
Sure a manager has to have a constant approach but sometimes you have to treat people individually & do what's right for them. "Different stroke for different folks".
Let's hope Nile is OK, remember this guy is under immense pressure but you're innocent until proven guilty in this country.
He looks real troubled from his pictures on instergram .
[quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Nile has obviously got problems & whilst football is his life he can't get into gear at the moment. Give the bloke a break & hopefully he'll turn it around. Sure a manager has to have a constant approach but sometimes you have to treat people individually & do what's right for them. "Different stroke for different folks". Let's hope Nile is OK, remember this guy is under immense pressure but you're innocent until proven guilty in this country.[/p][/quote]He looks real troubled from his pictures on instergram . jayden

10:04pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Jets there'd wrote:
Nile has obviously got problems & whilst football is his life he can't get into gear at the moment. Give the bloke a break & hopefully he'll turn it around.
Sure a manager has to have a constant approach but sometimes you have to treat people individually & do what's right for them. "Different stroke for different folks".
Let's hope Nile is OK, remember this guy is under immense pressure but you're innocent until proven guilty in this country.
How many breaks would you give him? You hope he is OK. Fair enough. That's a noble sentiment. I mean that - but I wonder if he extends the same concern to the victims of his crimes? I wonder if he concerns himself with the morale and well being of his employer and teammates after the disruption he's caused in the camp? Mark Cooper is a football manager. Of course all management is about handling different personalities but it's not his job to mollycoddle renegade players. My sympathy is with Cooper. He should never have been placed in this position. Ranger's signing was a big mistake that's looking worse by the day.
[quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Nile has obviously got problems & whilst football is his life he can't get into gear at the moment. Give the bloke a break & hopefully he'll turn it around. Sure a manager has to have a constant approach but sometimes you have to treat people individually & do what's right for them. "Different stroke for different folks". Let's hope Nile is OK, remember this guy is under immense pressure but you're innocent until proven guilty in this country.[/p][/quote]How many breaks would you give him? You hope he is OK. Fair enough. That's a noble sentiment. I mean that - but I wonder if he extends the same concern to the victims of his crimes? I wonder if he concerns himself with the morale and well being of his employer and teammates after the disruption he's caused in the camp? Mark Cooper is a football manager. Of course all management is about handling different personalities but it's not his job to mollycoddle renegade players. My sympathy is with Cooper. He should never have been placed in this position. Ranger's signing was a big mistake that's looking worse by the day. Oi Den!

10:19pm Fri 13 Dec 13

ellory says...

port de soller wrote:
My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one.
I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK
so compassion is the word back the guy
Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done.

If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break
Yes people deserve compassion and support for their problems, but Swindon Town have surely shown him both. The board offered him a contract in the first place. The fans, by and large, have supported him despite his past. Cooper has given him the opportunity to make amends - he wasn't frozen out after his first (public) discretion, he was given time off! As I see it, they only person who is not pulling their weight here is Nile himself. Not Cooper or anyone else.

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At any rate I don't see how you can advocate not knocking people who slip up and then call Coops a w***er!

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If Paolo was still here we'd have enough players frozen out and training with the youth team to start a mini league..
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: My God the Guy is in deep sh/t who know´s where his mind is he knows theis court case could result in a prison sentence.Come on let us be honest we all be doing one. I think he is a agood palyer and what he did in the town shirt was OK so compassion is the word back the guy Cooper is a Wan77r he should be supporting this guy, ok he has been a Bandit in his time but don´t you all think just maybe is time to support and help him no matter what he has done. If he needs an agent Malloca could use hime TOWN FANS come on give the guy a break[/p][/quote]Yes people deserve compassion and support for their problems, but Swindon Town have surely shown him both. The board offered him a contract in the first place. The fans, by and large, have supported him despite his past. Cooper has given him the opportunity to make amends - he wasn't frozen out after his first (public) discretion, he was given time off! As I see it, they only person who is not pulling their weight here is Nile himself. Not Cooper or anyone else. . At any rate I don't see how you can advocate not knocking people who slip up and then call Coops a w***er! . If Paolo was still here we'd have enough players frozen out and training with the youth team to start a mini league.. ellory

11:06pm Fri 13 Dec 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Big credit from me for Cooper. He's in a difficult position because Lee has taken a punt on Ranger. Cooper handling situation very well. Keep up the good work on and off the pitch Sir.....
Big credit from me for Cooper. He's in a difficult position because Lee has taken a punt on Ranger. Cooper handling situation very well. Keep up the good work on and off the pitch Sir..... dreamofacleansheet2

12:06am Sat 14 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

The Jockster wrote:
Stuie ala port de soller aka Mallorca - your remark re Cooper is way way off beam and unfortunately emphasises just how much you miss being out on a limb in the Balearics - indeed some might say that that is just what you are talking! FYI Cooper has probably given him more chances than you'd find on a Monopoly board- so please don't accuse him of being a Barclays because he isn't. The forum awaits yor apology me old china!
Jock, if I can get parked early enough in Decathlon car park tomorrow I'll see you for a pint in the Fat Cat.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Stuie ala port de soller aka Mallorca - your remark re Cooper is way way off beam and unfortunately emphasises just how much you miss being out on a limb in the Balearics - indeed some might say that that is just what you are talking! FYI Cooper has probably given him more chances than you'd find on a Monopoly board- so please don't accuse him of being a Barclays because he isn't. The forum awaits yor apology me old china![/p][/quote]Jock, if I can get parked early enough in Decathlon car park tomorrow I'll see you for a pint in the Fat Cat. mancrobin

12:19am Sat 14 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Big credit from me for Cooper. He's in a difficult position because Lee has taken a punt on Ranger. Cooper handling situation very well. Keep up the good work on and off the pitch Sir.....
Good post Dreamo but it remains to be seen if MC is handling this well. He's not the first manager to be faced with the problem of a wayward star who is potentially worth some cash to the club.

Personally, I would back his judgement on this because we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I would advise him to take lessons from the masters like Ferguson and Clough both of who knew how to use the the 'arm around the shoulder' and 'boot up the arse' when required. I think Cooper is the type of guy who can make such a judgement. I also hope Power is allowing him to get on with it. If he doesn't my support for him will diminish fast.

We shall see. Ranger is no George Best or Wayne Rooney but he certainly adds something to our attack that we haven't seen for some time.

As for whether we should take a position regarding his pending court case, I say, let's wait for the court case. If he is found guilty then I would see no case for the Town keeping him on their books. However, innocent until proved guilty. We'd all want to be treated the same way I'm sure.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Big credit from me for Cooper. He's in a difficult position because Lee has taken a punt on Ranger. Cooper handling situation very well. Keep up the good work on and off the pitch Sir.....[/p][/quote]Good post Dreamo but it remains to be seen if MC is handling this well. He's not the first manager to be faced with the problem of a wayward star who is potentially worth some cash to the club. Personally, I would back his judgement on this because we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I would advise him to take lessons from the masters like Ferguson and Clough both of who knew how to use the the 'arm around the shoulder' and 'boot up the arse' when required. I think Cooper is the type of guy who can make such a judgement. I also hope Power is allowing him to get on with it. If he doesn't my support for him will diminish fast. We shall see. Ranger is no George Best or Wayne Rooney but he certainly adds something to our attack that we haven't seen for some time. As for whether we should take a position regarding his pending court case, I say, let's wait for the court case. If he is found guilty then I would see no case for the Town keeping him on their books. However, innocent until proved guilty. We'd all want to be treated the same way I'm sure. mancrobin

8:12am Sat 14 Dec 13

jayden says...

Its funny that I got slated on here by one or two after the Portvale game for saying that Ranger was lazy and had a poor game. Anyone at the match would have noticed that at least two of his team mates were having strong words with him and were not happy with him. I did not go to the next game ,FA
cup but a few on here said he was the worse player on the pitch and since then has only played 5 Mins and the team have not lost since copper made his stance. Ranger will never be any good until he gets rid of the hangers on but I think he needs the hangers on as much as they need him.
Its funny that I got slated on here by one or two after the Portvale game for saying that Ranger was lazy and had a poor game. Anyone at the match would have noticed that at least two of his team mates were having strong words with him and were not happy with him. I did not go to the next game ,FA cup but a few on here said he was the worse player on the pitch and since then has only played 5 Mins and the team have not lost since copper made his stance. Ranger will never be any good until he gets rid of the hangers on but I think he needs the hangers on as much as they need him. jayden

9:38am Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Jayden, I remember his performance in that game and your comments afterwards. His first half showing was poor. I think I said then that he looked distracted. He was much better in the second half. At the time I did wonder whether his mind was on all the legal processes. But it looks like you were right. He seems to perform when he wants to. Anyway, IF he's guilty he deserves to feel pressure. If not, he deserves none of it and he's in a very unfortunate situation. But his previous behaviour at other clubs should have been a big warning sign, regardless of all that.
Jayden, I remember his performance in that game and your comments afterwards. His first half showing was poor. I think I said then that he looked distracted. He was much better in the second half. At the time I did wonder whether his mind was on all the legal processes. But it looks like you were right. He seems to perform when he wants to. Anyway, IF he's guilty he deserves to feel pressure. If not, he deserves none of it and he's in a very unfortunate situation. But his previous behaviour at other clubs should have been a big warning sign, regardless of all that. Oi Den!

9:48am Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Manc, I wonder what his real potential value is? If he could get rid of all the baggage it would be sky high. But it's because of all that baggage that he didn't have a club and we got him for nothing. What club is going to risk paying his "ability value" when he has been such a problem at all his clubs? A lot of people seem to think two words - not guilty - will be the magic wand that makes everything fall into place. Form would seem to indicate otherwise.
Manc, I wonder what his real potential value is? If he could get rid of all the baggage it would be sky high. But it's because of all that baggage that he didn't have a club and we got him for nothing. What club is going to risk paying his "ability value" when he has been such a problem at all his clubs? A lot of people seem to think two words - not guilty - will be the magic wand that makes everything fall into place. Form would seem to indicate otherwise. Oi Den!

12:52pm Sat 14 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Manc, I wonder what his real potential value is? If he could get rid of all the baggage it would be sky high. But it's because of all that baggage that he didn't have a club and we got him for nothing. What club is going to risk paying his "ability value" when he has been such a problem at all his clubs? A lot of people seem to think two words - not guilty - will be the magic wand that makes everything fall into place. Form would seem to indicate otherwise.
Agree with that Den but I think there are 2 issues here. First, Ranger's court case which will certainly determine whether he stays or not. And if he does stay, it's whether Cooper can be bothered and also has the managerial ability to nurture a wayward talent.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Manc, I wonder what his real potential value is? If he could get rid of all the baggage it would be sky high. But it's because of all that baggage that he didn't have a club and we got him for nothing. What club is going to risk paying his "ability value" when he has been such a problem at all his clubs? A lot of people seem to think two words - not guilty - will be the magic wand that makes everything fall into place. Form would seem to indicate otherwise.[/p][/quote]Agree with that Den but I think there are 2 issues here. First, Ranger's court case which will certainly determine whether he stays or not. And if he does stay, it's whether Cooper can be bothered and also has the managerial ability to nurture a wayward talent. mancrobin

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