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THE SAM MORSHEAD COLUMN: My take on our County Ground ban

Swindon Advertiser: The Advertiser has been banned from the County Ground The Advertiser has been banned from the County Ground

I TAKE no delight in what follows.

Yesterday was perhaps the lowest of my professional life. To be excluded from the club I have followed since I was in primary school and covered proudly as your correspondent for 20 months is an almighty kick in the stomach.

I was informed of Lee Power’s decision to bar the paper, and therefore me, from press conferences and the County Ground press box shortly after 9.30am. At the time of writing - many hours later - it’s not particularly easy to translate my feelings into words. And that’s odd for me, as many of you will be all too aware.

The issue Mr Power has is with two tweets I sent from my Twitter account at 1.16pm and 1.28pm on Saturday. They revolved around the availability of Nile Ranger and the fact the club had changed their mind about cancelling the striker’s contract at the County Ground.

The story was true, I had corroborated it several times earlier in the week. It came to my attention not from a high-ranking member of Swindon Town but an outside source and, as a result, I had no obligation to keep the matter quiet.

However, following conversations with one individual at Town I came to the conclusion that for the good of the club and the potential success of the team on Saturday, it would be best for all parties that on this particular occasion I bit my tongue.

This sort of thing happens from time to time in the local media. I felt it an appropriate reaction to a difficult and sensitive situation.

Forty hours after first being made aware of the story on Thursday evening, rumours were raging on social media that Ranger was playing against Peterborough.

Knowing the rumours were true, I went on Twitter to find a fan who had been on a stadium tour that lunchtime - at 12.30pm - and had seen Ranger’s shirt hanging in the Swindon dressing room. For the record, I know the fan personally and would vouch for the authenticity of his remark.

With the news now in the public domain I became obliged to report what I knew - I do not know of another journalist who would not have done the same.

I do not believe any breach of trust occurred at any time.

It has since been suggested that because of my tweet Posh manager Darren Ferguson changed his starting XI for the game. Whether or not that is true I don’t know.

What I do know is Ranger posted a picture of himself in his training kit on Instagram at around 1.30pm with the caption ‘I’m back’.

What I do know is I did not set out with malicious intent to harm Town’s chances of beating Peterborough - I’ve been a part of this club in one way or another for 19 years, why would I?

What I do know is, though the club may feel I am too much trouble to have around, I have stuck by every journalistic guideline I can think of.

I have not been flavour of the month at the County Ground many times, it’s not my job to be, but I have always tried to maintain a relationship with the club because, ultimately, the readers of the Adver have remained as loyal to local journalism as they have to Swindon Town down the years and they don’t deserve to get caught in the middle of such a spat.

I, and the rest of the sports team at the Advertiser, will continue to bring you the best possible independent coverage of your club - be it from near or afar.

I look forward to mixing it with the rest of you in the stands for home games and getting plenty of fan opinion into the paper in the absence of access to the management and players.

Your Advertiser won’t change. I think that is the most important statement of all.

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6:03am Tue 14 Jan 14

jedthered says...

Well never a dull moment at SN1, but i'm afraid Mr. Power you are making a big mistake barring the adver, and in my mind you are being petty. The news about Ranger was already in the public domain and was there for anyone to read. So will you be banning Wilts Sound next if they say something , or do something to upset you, it would not surprise me one little bit.
I've always stated that im not to keen on the present and previous board, and this makes it even more difficult to trust them now, but the point is you need journalists to ask those awkward types of questions that boardroom's and chairmen are not to eager to answer.
Hopefully , power will see the light and allow the adver back infor the next home match, with full contact with coop's and the player's again.
Well never a dull moment at SN1, but i'm afraid Mr. Power you are making a big mistake barring the adver, and in my mind you are being petty. The news about Ranger was already in the public domain and was there for anyone to read. So will you be banning Wilts Sound next if they say something , or do something to upset you, it would not surprise me one little bit. I've always stated that im not to keen on the present and previous board, and this makes it even more difficult to trust them now, but the point is you need journalists to ask those awkward types of questions that boardroom's and chairmen are not to eager to answer. Hopefully , power will see the light and allow the adver back infor the next home match, with full contact with coop's and the player's again. jedthered
  • Score: 21

6:38am Tue 14 Jan 14

street2000 says...

The club and its hierarchy seem above having the local paper there for home matches.............
....to me that is punishing the fans. The annoying thing is with this is that FACT it was already in the public domain. Perhaps Mr Powers would like to ban the fans too?
The club and its hierarchy seem above having the local paper there for home matches............. ....to me that is punishing the fans. The annoying thing is with this is that FACT it was already in the public domain. Perhaps Mr Powers would like to ban the fans too? street2000
  • Score: 17

6:45am Tue 14 Jan 14

Chish and Fips says...

Seems to me both sides have their jobs to do and this situation can be sorted by getting them both together and setting some ground rules.

One of these days Facebook or Twitter is going to start a war somewhere in the world, to me it can be a deadly way of trouble making, and possibly in some cases unintended.
Seems to me both sides have their jobs to do and this situation can be sorted by getting them both together and setting some ground rules. One of these days Facebook or Twitter is going to start a war somewhere in the world, to me it can be a deadly way of trouble making, and possibly in some cases unintended. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 20

6:46am Tue 14 Jan 14

NotNowFrank ... Brighton Mike says...

It's bad news for me, I wake at 6am everyday and read the online Adver news ... From Sussex.
Btw I'd pay (a small amount for that) great to have it free.

While I'm here ... well done to that Whitehawk boy Raffa, there's 3 Town fans from Brighton coming to a game soon.
(Hawks Kit Man!)
It's bad news for me, I wake at 6am everyday and read the online Adver news ... From Sussex. Btw I'd pay (a small amount for that) great to have it free. While I'm here ... well done to that Whitehawk boy Raffa, there's 3 Town fans from Brighton coming to a game soon. (Hawks Kit Man!) NotNowFrank ... Brighton Mike
  • Score: 14

7:23am Tue 14 Jan 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Don't give the club any publicity at all..... They'd soon have you back then.
Don't give the club any publicity at all..... They'd soon have you back then. Brainy_G93
  • Score: 11

7:26am Tue 14 Jan 14

Lanky says...

Perhaps in the future we will see opposing clubs plants a spy in Pre-Match stadium tours to get an early advantage by seeing potential team news from the shirts hung up.

Seems as much (if not more) the clubs fault for being careless and displaying player information in the public domain, especially if they felt this strongly about it being released.
Perhaps in the future we will see opposing clubs plants a spy in Pre-Match stadium tours to get an early advantage by seeing potential team news from the shirts hung up. Seems as much (if not more) the clubs fault for being careless and displaying player information in the public domain, especially if they felt this strongly about it being released. Lanky
  • Score: 27

7:28am Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

If Sam had not reported the Ranger situation when he did we'd all have been having a laugh at 'scoop Morshead' for missing the story. The news had broken via the (anti) social media from the player himself. It wasn't actually a cleaver move by the club to hang his shirt in the dressing room when there were stadium tours taking place!
As I posted last night the only news we got from the last chairman was via twitter. Maybe this one will ban it!
Follow this story Sam: why have the big screen and computerised advertising at the side of the pitch been removed and switched off?
If Sam had not reported the Ranger situation when he did we'd all have been having a laugh at 'scoop Morshead' for missing the story. The news had broken via the (anti) social media from the player himself. It wasn't actually a cleaver move by the club to hang his shirt in the dressing room when there were stadium tours taking place! As I posted last night the only news we got from the last chairman was via twitter. Maybe this one will ban it! Follow this story Sam: why have the big screen and computerised advertising at the side of the pitch been removed and switched off? Since 1950
  • Score: 13

7:31am Tue 14 Jan 14

mandrossian says...

I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.
I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited. mandrossian
  • Score: 4

7:42am Tue 14 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Whilst Sam is in a privileged position and needs to show discretion, Power's response seems too hasty. This benefits no one. Bridges need building fast.
Whilst Sam is in a privileged position and needs to show discretion, Power's response seems too hasty. This benefits no one. Bridges need building fast. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 16

7:51am Tue 14 Jan 14

california andy says...

Power has in many ways been a breath of fresh air after the silliness and exaggerations of his predecessor. But here he has behaved in a petty and foolish fashion. Professional sports requires fans, and fans want access to information and stories about the club they follow. Cutting off coverage in the local paper is absurd, as is the supposed reason for it. If the club wanted to keep Ranger's return secret, they shouldn't have hung his shirt out on public view, and they should have told Ranger to keep his mouth shut (fat chance). Sam actually sat on the story till it was out there, and he was obliged to report it or look like a failure at his job. Mr Power needs to calm down, have a glass or two, and rescind his self-defeating directive. And we need to get back to talking about football.
Power has in many ways been a breath of fresh air after the silliness and exaggerations of his predecessor. But here he has behaved in a petty and foolish fashion. Professional sports requires fans, and fans want access to information and stories about the club they follow. Cutting off coverage in the local paper is absurd, as is the supposed reason for it. If the club wanted to keep Ranger's return secret, they shouldn't have hung his shirt out on public view, and they should have told Ranger to keep his mouth shut (fat chance). Sam actually sat on the story till it was out there, and he was obliged to report it or look like a failure at his job. Mr Power needs to calm down, have a glass or two, and rescind his self-defeating directive. And we need to get back to talking about football. california andy
  • Score: 19

7:56am Tue 14 Jan 14

BorisIsTheSpider says...

mandrossian wrote:
I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.
Well, we won the game. So if Ferguson changed his formation due to Sam's tweet thanks very much Sam. We've been here before with media bans. It's very petty. Can't see that Sam has done anything wrong. Lee Power needs to talk to the Adver and, as said above, set some ground rules. easily solved.
[quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.[/p][/quote]Well, we won the game. So if Ferguson changed his formation due to Sam's tweet thanks very much Sam. We've been here before with media bans. It's very petty. Can't see that Sam has done anything wrong. Lee Power needs to talk to the Adver and, as said above, set some ground rules. easily solved. BorisIsTheSpider
  • Score: 18

8:01am Tue 14 Jan 14

Wilesy says...

Good article Sam. It is ridiculous to ban the Adver over this, I wonder if we have seen the true colours of Lee Power after the charm offensive during the initial interview when he took over. The info was already out there and in any case so what if Ranger was playing of wasn't playing. Very harsh and hopefully common sense will prevail, but even so everyone will now be aware of how the chairman can be hot headed and be suitably wary. Not a good day for Power.
Good article Sam. It is ridiculous to ban the Adver over this, I wonder if we have seen the true colours of Lee Power after the charm offensive during the initial interview when he took over. The info was already out there and in any case so what if Ranger was playing of wasn't playing. Very harsh and hopefully common sense will prevail, but even so everyone will now be aware of how the chairman can be hot headed and be suitably wary. Not a good day for Power. Wilesy
  • Score: 11

8:04am Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

mandrossian wrote:
I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.
If you read it, Sam found out what was going on with Ranger in mid-week and did indeed show discretion in not reporting it then. The story was made public so Sam had a duty to himself and his employers to report it.
[quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.[/p][/quote]If you read it, Sam found out what was going on with Ranger in mid-week and did indeed show discretion in not reporting it then. The story was made public so Sam had a duty to himself and his employers to report it. Since 1950
  • Score: 10

8:10am Tue 14 Jan 14

stfc2012 says...

Makes Power look silly as he will back track. It's a joke that Ranger is let to do what he wants - and won't disciplined for puic stating he was playing, or the people that arrange the tours or put the shirts out. Media are there to report and he waited long enough not to mention it. Power is a joke!
Makes Power look silly as he will back track. It's a joke that Ranger is let to do what he wants - and won't disciplined for puic stating he was playing, or the people that arrange the tours or put the shirts out. Media are there to report and he waited long enough not to mention it. Power is a joke! stfc2012
  • Score: -1

8:11am Tue 14 Jan 14

Kingseleven says...

Seems bizarre that the chairman would exclude the adver who promote the club and, like already stated, ask those awkward questions. Living in essex I kinda rely on the updates I get from adver online etc. Mr Power needs to have a rethink as the press can work to his advantage as well. Besides at the end of the day Peterborough may well have changed their team line up. It clearly worked a treat......thanks Fergie Jnr !! Haha.
Seems bizarre that the chairman would exclude the adver who promote the club and, like already stated, ask those awkward questions. Living in essex I kinda rely on the updates I get from adver online etc. Mr Power needs to have a rethink as the press can work to his advantage as well. Besides at the end of the day Peterborough may well have changed their team line up. It clearly worked a treat......thanks Fergie Jnr !! Haha. Kingseleven
  • Score: 2

8:12am Tue 14 Jan 14

Wilesy says...

mandrossian wrote:
I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.
Maybe Sam shouldn't have tweeted, but any way you look at it it's a complete over reaction by Power, in stark contrast to the absolute leniency shown to Ranger who has been making him look a mug for quite a while. He should have had a 'set he ground rules' meeting with the Adver. What next, binning off the catering if his cuppa is a bit milky?
[quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: I would argue that there is a difference between Rangers inclusion being reported by random people on twitter, and being reported by the local paper. Until Sam tweeted it was not widely known, and would have been considered merely a rumour. I'm not saying that Power is correct to ban the adver, but I do believe the story about the team change as a result of Sams tweet and he should have waited.[/p][/quote]Maybe Sam shouldn't have tweeted, but any way you look at it it's a complete over reaction by Power, in stark contrast to the absolute leniency shown to Ranger who has been making him look a mug for quite a while. He should have had a 'set he ground rules' meeting with the Adver. What next, binning off the catering if his cuppa is a bit milky? Wilesy
  • Score: -1

8:17am Tue 14 Jan 14

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

Was it Daragh Croxson or Bob Spivey who was banned back in the seventies or eighties?

I feel for you Sam. I'd be hurt both professionally and personally if it happened to me.
Was it Daragh Croxson or Bob Spivey who was banned back in the seventies or eighties? I feel for you Sam. I'd be hurt both professionally and personally if it happened to me. The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier
  • Score: -1

8:23am Tue 14 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Does seem a bit harsh to ban Sam and Co. Was Saturday the straw that broke the camels back and there is more to it ?

Are we now to be fed stories based on Twitter posts ?

Electronic advertising ! Was it not paid for or was it hired and proving worthwhile ?

COYMR
Does seem a bit harsh to ban Sam and Co. Was Saturday the straw that broke the camels back and there is more to it ? Are we now to be fed stories based on Twitter posts ? Electronic advertising ! Was it not paid for or was it hired and proving worthwhile ? COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -1

8:26am Tue 14 Jan 14

madred says...

Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever! madred
  • Score: 15

8:29am Tue 14 Jan 14

port de soller says...

clive king is turning in his grave,what a load of crap all of it,Lee Power needs all the support he can get
clive king is turning in his grave,what a load of crap all of it,Lee Power needs all the support he can get port de soller
  • Score: -17

8:33am Tue 14 Jan 14

BorisIsTheSpider says...

madred wrote:
Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Excellent point!
[quote][p][bold]madred[/bold] wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever![/p][/quote]Excellent point! BorisIsTheSpider
  • Score: 2

9:00am Tue 14 Jan 14

STFC 67 says...

Sam is a really good journalist and was doing his job. So really whats the problem . It seems ego and paranoia afflict the boardroom these days.
So my plea to Lee is don't be so daft to ban the Adver.No way would Sam undermine the team.
I would also add that BBC Wiltshires failure to report this matter is either cowardice or total lack of awareness . Whichever one it is, its just another indication of a self satisfied, overstaffed over financed organisation.
Sam is a really good journalist and was doing his job. So really whats the problem . It seems ego and paranoia afflict the boardroom these days. So my plea to Lee is don't be so daft to ban the Adver.No way would Sam undermine the team. I would also add that BBC Wiltshires failure to report this matter is either cowardice or total lack of awareness . Whichever one it is, its just another indication of a self satisfied, overstaffed over financed organisation. STFC 67
  • Score: 0

9:03am Tue 14 Jan 14

stfcgirlie says...

Sam, It's horrible, and very upsetting to get banned (I know from personal experience at the club).
But, please don't worry - you are a fan. You will be a fan a lot longer than many of them will be staff. (I also know this from personal experience!)

You will be back.
Sam, It's horrible, and very upsetting to get banned (I know from personal experience at the club). But, please don't worry - you are a fan. You will be a fan a lot longer than many of them will be staff. (I also know this from personal experience!) You will be back. stfcgirlie
  • Score: 3

9:08am Tue 14 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

Seems to me the writing has been on the wall since Sam started reporting that Ranger's contract was to be terminated, which obviously wasn't true, the tweets on Saturday were the final straw for Power.

It's a difficult balance for Sam, as a reporter he wants to be first for news, which isn't always the best for the club, hopefully all will be resolved soon.
Seems to me the writing has been on the wall since Sam started reporting that Ranger's contract was to be terminated, which obviously wasn't true, the tweets on Saturday were the final straw for Power. It's a difficult balance for Sam, as a reporter he wants to be first for news, which isn't always the best for the club, hopefully all will be resolved soon. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 2

9:10am Tue 14 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

STFC 67 wrote:
Sam is a really good journalist and was doing his job. So really whats the problem . It seems ego and paranoia afflict the boardroom these days.
So my plea to Lee is don't be so daft to ban the Adver.No way would Sam undermine the team.
I would also add that BBC Wiltshires failure to report this matter is either cowardice or total lack of awareness . Whichever one it is, its just another indication of a self satisfied, overstaffed over financed organisation.
Or perhaps BBC Wilts was abiding by the rules, they must be laughing now have the only local access to the club!
[quote][p][bold]STFC 67[/bold] wrote: Sam is a really good journalist and was doing his job. So really whats the problem . It seems ego and paranoia afflict the boardroom these days. So my plea to Lee is don't be so daft to ban the Adver.No way would Sam undermine the team. I would also add that BBC Wiltshires failure to report this matter is either cowardice or total lack of awareness . Whichever one it is, its just another indication of a self satisfied, overstaffed over financed organisation.[/p][/quote]Or perhaps BBC Wilts was abiding by the rules, they must be laughing now have the only local access to the club! Davidsyrett
  • Score: 5

9:10am Tue 14 Jan 14

umpcah says...

stfcgirlie wrote:
Sam, It's horrible, and very upsetting to get banned (I know from personal experience at the club).
But, please don't worry - you are a fan. You will be a fan a lot longer than many of them will be staff. (I also know this from personal experience!)

You will be back.
STFCGIRLIE : Nice to have you back too !
[quote][p][bold]stfcgirlie[/bold] wrote: Sam, It's horrible, and very upsetting to get banned (I know from personal experience at the club). But, please don't worry - you are a fan. You will be a fan a lot longer than many of them will be staff. (I also know this from personal experience!) You will be back.[/p][/quote]STFCGIRLIE : Nice to have you back too ! umpcah
  • Score: -3

9:11am Tue 14 Jan 14

LeGod says...

Look i think the club have been irresponsible and also the guy who took the photo who was having a tour of the club and Sam for tweeting.

1. STFC if they wanted to keep it secret about Ranger firstly they shouldnt have had his shirt hanging on the peg or they could have said to people on the tour you cant take photos today as we dont want to reveal our team to the opposition.

2. The bloke who took the photo probably wasnt aware of the situation and most fams would have probably done the same and take a photo.

3. Sam had an agreement with the club and although it was out in the public domain i still think he should have kept to his word and not tweeted. If that was the agreement then he should have stuck to it. He could have made a call to Power to tell him what had happenned or someone else at the club and got permission to Tweet.

4. I think the club are going over the top banning him and and should give Sam a rollocking and tell him if he does it again we will ban you.The guy supports the club is a good young reporter and should meet up with Power and settle their differences and Sam to apologise and both of them move on.
Look i think the club have been irresponsible and also the guy who took the photo who was having a tour of the club and Sam for tweeting. 1. STFC if they wanted to keep it secret about Ranger firstly they shouldnt have had his shirt hanging on the peg or they could have said to people on the tour you cant take photos today as we dont want to reveal our team to the opposition. 2. The bloke who took the photo probably wasnt aware of the situation and most fams would have probably done the same and take a photo. 3. Sam had an agreement with the club and although it was out in the public domain i still think he should have kept to his word and not tweeted. If that was the agreement then he should have stuck to it. He could have made a call to Power to tell him what had happenned or someone else at the club and got permission to Tweet. 4. I think the club are going over the top banning him and and should give Sam a rollocking and tell him if he does it again we will ban you.The guy supports the club is a good young reporter and should meet up with Power and settle their differences and Sam to apologise and both of them move on. LeGod
  • Score: 7

9:12am Tue 14 Jan 14

nosyrudeman says...

STFC and their fans need the local media, and the local media need STFC, end of. I think Mr Power has made a big mistake on this subject.
STFC and their fans need the local media, and the local media need STFC, end of. I think Mr Power has made a big mistake on this subject. nosyrudeman
  • Score: 0

9:15am Tue 14 Jan 14

umpcah says...

BorisIsTheSpider wrote:
madred wrote:
Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Excellent point!
I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.
[quote][p][bold]BorisIsTheSpider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madred[/bold] wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever![/p][/quote]Excellent point![/p][/quote]I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven. umpcah
  • Score: 2

9:28am Tue 14 Jan 14

umpcah says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
STFC and their fans need the local media, and the local media need STFC, end of. I think Mr Power has made a big mistake on this subject.
Mistakes are often made in the heat of the moment and I expect a truce to be called before long.
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: STFC and their fans need the local media, and the local media need STFC, end of. I think Mr Power has made a big mistake on this subject.[/p][/quote]Mistakes are often made in the heat of the moment and I expect a truce to be called before long. umpcah
  • Score: 0

9:35am Tue 14 Jan 14

EmmBee says...

Stop covering any news for a couple of matches. See what happens then.
Stop covering any news for a couple of matches. See what happens then. EmmBee
  • Score: 2

9:37am Tue 14 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

umpcah wrote:
BorisIsTheSpider wrote:
madred wrote:
Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Excellent point!
I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.
Precisely, as I said last night, the Ferguson's are adept at working the press to their advantage..it was an easy "shot" for junior to say this whether or not it made one iota of difference to his plans or not.

But to do so, firstly makes him out to be very alert to situations and a switched on manager and secondly have a passing dig at the opposition with the JPT in mind.... Ferguson's mind games mark 2.

Sorry that Sam got caught up in it as he has become the victim through his own actions... but Ferguson has now got just what he wanted division in our ranks....

PS Ferguson senior banned one reporter 3 times but always let him back, one got banned for asking a question about a players availability, let alone his spat with he BBC....didn't seem to hold him back or alienate him with the teams supporters did it, or the success that he achieved ?
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BorisIsTheSpider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madred[/bold] wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever![/p][/quote]Excellent point![/p][/quote]I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.[/p][/quote]Precisely, as I said last night, the Ferguson's are adept at working the press to their advantage..it was an easy "shot" for junior to say this whether or not it made one iota of difference to his plans or not. But to do so, firstly makes him out to be very alert to situations and a switched on manager and secondly have a passing dig at the opposition with the JPT in mind.... Ferguson's mind games mark 2. Sorry that Sam got caught up in it as he has become the victim through his own actions... but Ferguson has now got just what he wanted division in our ranks.... PS Ferguson senior banned one reporter 3 times but always let him back, one got banned for asking a question about a players availability, let alone his spat with he BBC....didn't seem to hold him back or alienate him with the teams supporters did it, or the success that he achieved ? Cleuso
  • Score: 4

9:38am Tue 14 Jan 14

MITTED says...

This is 100% ludicrous. This is what should have happened:

Mr Power: "Thank you, Sam for keeping the Ranger return under wraps for two days. It is unfortunate that the club scored an own goal by allowing fans into the dressing room earlier in the day enabling them to see the shirts laid out, including Ranger's".

Mr Power should realise that The Adver is the first source and for long distance fans, the only source for more informed information about the club.

Climb down from your ivory tower Mr Power, and do the right thing.
This is 100% ludicrous. This is what should have happened: Mr Power: "Thank you, Sam for keeping the Ranger return under wraps for two days. It is unfortunate that the club scored an own goal by allowing fans into the dressing room earlier in the day enabling them to see the shirts laid out, including Ranger's". Mr Power should realise that The Adver is the first source and for long distance fans, the only source for more informed information about the club. Climb down from your ivory tower Mr Power, and do the right thing. MITTED
  • Score: 11

9:41am Tue 14 Jan 14

the don69 says...

Plonker,Dipstick or silly billy come to mind! take your pick Mr Power what a petty thing to do! We haven't got an awful lot of supporters and you risk losing some,Sam I think you should appeal this awful ban,trouble is it'll be heard by that Plonker or Del-Boy Power! living in Switzerland seems to have turned you a little COOKOO Mr Power!!!!!!!!
Plonker,Dipstick or silly billy come to mind! take your pick Mr Power what a petty thing to do! We haven't got an awful lot of supporters and you risk losing some,Sam I think you should appeal this awful ban,trouble is it'll be heard by that Plonker or Del-Boy Power! living in Switzerland seems to have turned you a little COOKOO Mr Power!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 19

9:47am Tue 14 Jan 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

What the club hates most is the fact that people comment on these boards, they hate the fact that info leaks out, I can only imagine that banning Sam is a way of shutting the adver up, but all of us fans have a right to voice oppinions, some of us are stupid at times and I am sure say things we dont really mean, debates are had and banter is regular, but I knew on Thursday that Ranger was staying because someone at the club told me, I won't say who because clearly they may then "feel the powers wrath".

This is a ridiculous situation, when Power took over his criticism of twitter was stated with a swipe at Jed saying he would only communicate via the correct media outlets, well I am afraid the adver is the biggest media outlet for our club, also if Power hates social media so much then why not ban all players and staff from all forms of social media and carry on living in the 80's, love it or hate it social media is getting stronger and more popular and will only develop further. many people didn't like Jed's tweets while others felt a closeness to our former chairman because they had a conversation with him and he made himself accessable to the fans, one of my favourite chairman was spearman who regularly sat on supporters busses and went to the away pubs for a beer with the fans, should Power really be looking to cut these types of links with the fans and local press, IMO he shouldn't if the club really are looking to build a community spirit like they keep saying.

To ban Sam for this is ridiculous and sounds to me like a fake reason to ban someone who often reports the truth and not the fiction the club would have you believe, criticise Fredi all you like but he was right about more than has ever been confirmed.

I am not a knocker of Power he has found some useful players and reduced a wage bill by several millions, I also feel going forward he will continue to use his contacts to bring decent players here and eventualy he will get us to the championship, I don't know how much he interfers with the playing side of things or if Cooper is his own man, but I have a friend at the club who has told me the training sessions of Cooper and Williams are 100 times better than they were under Paolo and that the squad love Cooper and Williams which again seems to make it the right choice.

Come on Power pick your dummy up and work it out with the adver, football clubs should work with their local press and not against them.
What the club hates most is the fact that people comment on these boards, they hate the fact that info leaks out, I can only imagine that banning Sam is a way of shutting the adver up, but all of us fans have a right to voice oppinions, some of us are stupid at times and I am sure say things we dont really mean, debates are had and banter is regular, but I knew on Thursday that Ranger was staying because someone at the club told me, I won't say who because clearly they may then "feel the powers wrath". This is a ridiculous situation, when Power took over his criticism of twitter was stated with a swipe at Jed saying he would only communicate via the correct media outlets, well I am afraid the adver is the biggest media outlet for our club, also if Power hates social media so much then why not ban all players and staff from all forms of social media and carry on living in the 80's, love it or hate it social media is getting stronger and more popular and will only develop further. many people didn't like Jed's tweets while others felt a closeness to our former chairman because they had a conversation with him and he made himself accessable to the fans, one of my favourite chairman was spearman who regularly sat on supporters busses and went to the away pubs for a beer with the fans, should Power really be looking to cut these types of links with the fans and local press, IMO he shouldn't if the club really are looking to build a community spirit like they keep saying. To ban Sam for this is ridiculous and sounds to me like a fake reason to ban someone who often reports the truth and not the fiction the club would have you believe, criticise Fredi all you like but he was right about more than has ever been confirmed. I am not a knocker of Power he has found some useful players and reduced a wage bill by several millions, I also feel going forward he will continue to use his contacts to bring decent players here and eventualy he will get us to the championship, I don't know how much he interfers with the playing side of things or if Cooper is his own man, but I have a friend at the club who has told me the training sessions of Cooper and Williams are 100 times better than they were under Paolo and that the squad love Cooper and Williams which again seems to make it the right choice. Come on Power pick your dummy up and work it out with the adver, football clubs should work with their local press and not against them. you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: 4

10:00am Tue 14 Jan 14

hertz says...

Nothing wrong with a mistake as long as yun learn from it , just make sure the shirts laid out for the JPT games have no resemblance to the starting 11 :0)
Nothing wrong with a mistake as long as yun learn from it , just make sure the shirts laid out for the JPT games have no resemblance to the starting 11 :0) hertz
  • Score: 5

10:06am Tue 14 Jan 14

Swindon1984 says...

Cleuso wrote:
umpcah wrote:
BorisIsTheSpider wrote:
madred wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Excellent point!
I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.
Precisely, as I said last night, the Ferguson's are adept at working the press to their advantage..it was an easy "shot" for junior to say this whether or not it made one iota of difference to his plans or not. But to do so, firstly makes him out to be very alert to situations and a switched on manager and secondly have a passing dig at the opposition with the JPT in mind.... Ferguson's mind games mark 2. Sorry that Sam got caught up in it as he has become the victim through his own actions... but Ferguson has now got just what he wanted division in our ranks.... PS Ferguson senior banned one reporter 3 times but always let him back, one got banned for asking a question about a players availability, let alone his spat with he BBC....didn't seem to hold him back or alienate him with the teams supporters did it, or the success that he achieved ?
In addition to this, ultimately we'll never know - the cat was out of the bag before the lineups were announced, therefore we don't know who Fergie Jr would have played, only who he DID play. Beyond Darren Ferguson's good word (and I don't know how good that is) no-one knows what lineup he was going to put out and if it changed.

As Sam says, once the information's out there he would be remiss in not reporting it (short of an injunction, and we know how stupid they made the press look - no-one can talk about what everyone already knows, barmy). Also imposing this sanction won't stop the adver publishing news like Saturday's, it will just stop them having access to the press conferences, which is only saying what the club wants made public anyway. Bit of a paradox and even if there are concerns from the club in terms of how the adver reports, their reaction actually won't address these concerns.

Ultimately Power is going to have to rescind his decision, which will make him look pretty foolish, or stick with it and look petty and bullish in front of the supporters. Think Power doesn't appreciate how much some rely on the adver for news - not just those who find it difficult or impossible to get to the games, but I even find myself that it's a far better source of information than the official site, with more comprenehsive information and delivered far quicker.

PS - I notice how quick some are now jumping to defend the adver now it looks like they may be unable to deliver what they normally do, when there've been so many who've slagged it off before (accusations of lazy journalism, "non-news" stories etc). You don't know what you've got till it's gone folks. Maybe people will appreciate the hard work undertaken by Sam and others if the news goes dark for a couple of weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BorisIsTheSpider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madred[/bold] wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever![/p][/quote]Excellent point![/p][/quote]I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.[/p][/quote]Precisely, as I said last night, the Ferguson's are adept at working the press to their advantage..it was an easy "shot" for junior to say this whether or not it made one iota of difference to his plans or not. But to do so, firstly makes him out to be very alert to situations and a switched on manager and secondly have a passing dig at the opposition with the JPT in mind.... Ferguson's mind games mark 2. Sorry that Sam got caught up in it as he has become the victim through his own actions... but Ferguson has now got just what he wanted division in our ranks.... PS Ferguson senior banned one reporter 3 times but always let him back, one got banned for asking a question about a players availability, let alone his spat with he BBC....didn't seem to hold him back or alienate him with the teams supporters did it, or the success that he achieved ?[/p][/quote]In addition to this, ultimately we'll never know - the cat was out of the bag before the lineups were announced, therefore we don't know who Fergie Jr would have played, only who he DID play. Beyond Darren Ferguson's good word (and I don't know how good that is) no-one knows what lineup he was going to put out and if it changed. As Sam says, once the information's out there he would be remiss in not reporting it (short of an injunction, and we know how stupid they made the press look - no-one can talk about what everyone already knows, barmy). Also imposing this sanction won't stop the adver publishing news like Saturday's, it will just stop them having access to the press conferences, which is only saying what the club wants made public anyway. Bit of a paradox and even if there are concerns from the club in terms of how the adver reports, their reaction actually won't address these concerns. Ultimately Power is going to have to rescind his decision, which will make him look pretty foolish, or stick with it and look petty and bullish in front of the supporters. Think Power doesn't appreciate how much some rely on the adver for news - not just those who find it difficult or impossible to get to the games, but I even find myself that it's a far better source of information than the official site, with more comprenehsive information and delivered far quicker. PS - I notice how quick some are now jumping to defend the adver now it looks like they may be unable to deliver what they normally do, when there've been so many who've slagged it off before (accusations of lazy journalism, "non-news" stories etc). You don't know what you've got till it's gone folks. Maybe people will appreciate the hard work undertaken by Sam and others if the news goes dark for a couple of weeks. Swindon1984
  • Score: 6

10:14am Tue 14 Jan 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
umpcah wrote:
BorisIsTheSpider wrote:
madred wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Excellent point!
I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.
Precisely, as I said last night, the Ferguson's are adept at working the press to their advantage..it was an easy "shot" for junior to say this whether or not it made one iota of difference to his plans or not. But to do so, firstly makes him out to be very alert to situations and a switched on manager and secondly have a passing dig at the opposition with the JPT in mind.... Ferguson's mind games mark 2. Sorry that Sam got caught up in it as he has become the victim through his own actions... but Ferguson has now got just what he wanted division in our ranks.... PS Ferguson senior banned one reporter 3 times but always let him back, one got banned for asking a question about a players availability, let alone his spat with he BBC....didn't seem to hold him back or alienate him with the teams supporters did it, or the success that he achieved ?
In addition to this, ultimately we'll never know - the cat was out of the bag before the lineups were announced, therefore we don't know who Fergie Jr would have played, only who he DID play. Beyond Darren Ferguson's good word (and I don't know how good that is) no-one knows what lineup he was going to put out and if it changed. As Sam says, once the information's out there he would be remiss in not reporting it (short of an injunction, and we know how stupid they made the press look - no-one can talk about what everyone already knows, barmy). Also imposing this sanction won't stop the adver publishing news like Saturday's, it will just stop them having access to the press conferences, which is only saying what the club wants made public anyway. Bit of a paradox and even if there are concerns from the club in terms of how the adver reports, their reaction actually won't address these concerns. Ultimately Power is going to have to rescind his decision, which will make him look pretty foolish, or stick with it and look petty and bullish in front of the supporters. Think Power doesn't appreciate how much some rely on the adver for news - not just those who find it difficult or impossible to get to the games, but I even find myself that it's a far better source of information than the official site, with more comprenehsive information and delivered far quicker. PS - I notice how quick some are now jumping to defend the adver now it looks like they may be unable to deliver what they normally do, when there've been so many who've slagged it off before (accusations of lazy journalism, "non-news" stories etc). You don't know what you've got till it's gone folks. Maybe people will appreciate the hard work undertaken by Sam and others if the news goes dark for a couple of weeks.
Well said 1984, the adver do a great job for us fans and Sam is a fan who always wants to tell the truth, what was wrong with reporting Ranger may have his contract cancelled, I for 1 thought this was a good move by the club if he wouldn't tow the line, likewise he is the best hold up CF in this league by a mile, so if we can work it out then great but we shouldnt accept him doing what he wants when he wants.....
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BorisIsTheSpider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madred[/bold] wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever![/p][/quote]Excellent point![/p][/quote]I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.[/p][/quote]Precisely, as I said last night, the Ferguson's are adept at working the press to their advantage..it was an easy "shot" for junior to say this whether or not it made one iota of difference to his plans or not. But to do so, firstly makes him out to be very alert to situations and a switched on manager and secondly have a passing dig at the opposition with the JPT in mind.... Ferguson's mind games mark 2. Sorry that Sam got caught up in it as he has become the victim through his own actions... but Ferguson has now got just what he wanted division in our ranks.... PS Ferguson senior banned one reporter 3 times but always let him back, one got banned for asking a question about a players availability, let alone his spat with he BBC....didn't seem to hold him back or alienate him with the teams supporters did it, or the success that he achieved ?[/p][/quote]In addition to this, ultimately we'll never know - the cat was out of the bag before the lineups were announced, therefore we don't know who Fergie Jr would have played, only who he DID play. Beyond Darren Ferguson's good word (and I don't know how good that is) no-one knows what lineup he was going to put out and if it changed. As Sam says, once the information's out there he would be remiss in not reporting it (short of an injunction, and we know how stupid they made the press look - no-one can talk about what everyone already knows, barmy). Also imposing this sanction won't stop the adver publishing news like Saturday's, it will just stop them having access to the press conferences, which is only saying what the club wants made public anyway. Bit of a paradox and even if there are concerns from the club in terms of how the adver reports, their reaction actually won't address these concerns. Ultimately Power is going to have to rescind his decision, which will make him look pretty foolish, or stick with it and look petty and bullish in front of the supporters. Think Power doesn't appreciate how much some rely on the adver for news - not just those who find it difficult or impossible to get to the games, but I even find myself that it's a far better source of information than the official site, with more comprenehsive information and delivered far quicker. PS - I notice how quick some are now jumping to defend the adver now it looks like they may be unable to deliver what they normally do, when there've been so many who've slagged it off before (accusations of lazy journalism, "non-news" stories etc). You don't know what you've got till it's gone folks. Maybe people will appreciate the hard work undertaken by Sam and others if the news goes dark for a couple of weeks.[/p][/quote]Well said 1984, the adver do a great job for us fans and Sam is a fan who always wants to tell the truth, what was wrong with reporting Ranger may have his contract cancelled, I for 1 thought this was a good move by the club if he wouldn't tow the line, likewise he is the best hold up CF in this league by a mile, so if we can work it out then great but we shouldnt accept him doing what he wants when he wants..... you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: 1

10:27am Tue 14 Jan 14

lambo says...

i have maybe a different perspective on this.

i follow adver & a number of meida outlets on twitter.
in the last couple of weeks a certain A.S-D has risen to prominence also reporting on STFC, and he has tried to bait Sam as well.

I wonder if everyone and anyone who were connected with Jed in any way are being ostracised from being anything to do with STFC and this is part of it.

If it is then maybe a bit of honesty from Mr Power wouldn't go amiss. If it isn't then still some honesty from Mr Power is needed, and I would suggest an SLA or some agreement is put in place so that both Power & Moreshead know the boundaries of what is allowable to be reported on.

I do find it stupid from Power's part that the player posted a picture on instagram with the words "I'm Back" yet this seems to have gone unnoticed or is being dealt with behind closed doors. About time this very public spat was swept under the carpet with a couple of apologies and ground rules set in place and we all move on from it.

Going back to my earlier point. Perhaps A.S-D is the new flavour of the month and has the ear of Power?

thoughts?
i have maybe a different perspective on this. i follow adver & a number of meida outlets on twitter. in the last couple of weeks a certain A.S-D has risen to prominence also reporting on STFC, and he has tried to bait Sam as well. I wonder if everyone and anyone who were connected with Jed in any way are being ostracised from being anything to do with STFC and this is part of it. If it is then maybe a bit of honesty from Mr Power wouldn't go amiss. If it isn't then still some honesty from Mr Power is needed, and I would suggest an SLA or some agreement is put in place so that both Power & Moreshead know the boundaries of what is allowable to be reported on. I do find it stupid from Power's part that the player posted a picture on instagram with the words "I'm Back" yet this seems to have gone unnoticed or is being dealt with behind closed doors. About time this very public spat was swept under the carpet with a couple of apologies and ground rules set in place and we all move on from it. Going back to my earlier point. Perhaps A.S-D is the new flavour of the month and has the ear of Power? thoughts? lambo
  • Score: 0

10:28am Tue 14 Jan 14

Pewsham Red says...

STFC 67 wrote:
Sam is a really good journalist and was doing his job. So really whats the problem . It seems ego and paranoia afflict the boardroom these days.
So my plea to Lee is don't be so daft to ban the Adver.No way would Sam undermine the team.
I would also add that BBC Wiltshires failure to report this matter is either cowardice or total lack of awareness . Whichever one it is, its just another indication of a self satisfied, overstaffed over financed organisation.
I don't think that Sam is a really good journalist as he comes across as a fan who happens to work for a paper and struggles to be impartial. Some of his comments can be a little unprofessional.

I also suspect that this is a culmination of events as I don't think that he is the most popular chap at the CG, as he admits himself.

That said, Power is probably overreacting and gaining the sort of publicity he and the club could do without. But it is his club and he can do what he wants.
[quote][p][bold]STFC 67[/bold] wrote: Sam is a really good journalist and was doing his job. So really whats the problem . It seems ego and paranoia afflict the boardroom these days. So my plea to Lee is don't be so daft to ban the Adver.No way would Sam undermine the team. I would also add that BBC Wiltshires failure to report this matter is either cowardice or total lack of awareness . Whichever one it is, its just another indication of a self satisfied, overstaffed over financed organisation.[/p][/quote]I don't think that Sam is a really good journalist as he comes across as a fan who happens to work for a paper and struggles to be impartial. Some of his comments can be a little unprofessional. I also suspect that this is a culmination of events as I don't think that he is the most popular chap at the CG, as he admits himself. That said, Power is probably overreacting and gaining the sort of publicity he and the club could do without. But it is his club and he can do what he wants. Pewsham Red
  • Score: -6

10:35am Tue 14 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

The twitter feeds were out before Sam tweeted but these tweets, Ranger excepted, are from unofficial sources. The Sam tweet could therefore be considered official (trusted) confirmation.

Was the tweeted photo of Ranger's shirt alongside Saturday's paper to confirm the date ? It could have been taken months ago and ( I am not doubting the posters integrity) posted as a wind-up.

Just a thought.

COYMR
The twitter feeds were out before Sam tweeted but these tweets, Ranger excepted, are from unofficial sources. The Sam tweet could therefore be considered official (trusted) confirmation. Was the tweeted photo of Ranger's shirt alongside Saturday's paper to confirm the date ? It could have been taken months ago and ( I am not doubting the posters integrity) posted as a wind-up. Just a thought. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 3

10:36am Tue 14 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

ok mr power we all know by now who the owner/ chairman is ,you have made your point ,so lets get sam and the adver reinstated and move on ,there are more important issues surrounding this club that need addressing.
ok mr power we all know by now who the owner/ chairman is ,you have made your point ,so lets get sam and the adver reinstated and move on ,there are more important issues surrounding this club that need addressing. lifelong red
  • Score: 3

10:43am Tue 14 Jan 14

Archive Robin says...

Hi All

This is just my opinion on the situation regarding the Adver coverage of STFC this season and perhaps more importantly over the years (bearing in mind I have been supporting the club for over 40 years and have seen the reporting).

I have never really felt that the Adver has ever been totally (more so in the post League Cup era and beyond) on the side of the club although you could say that they are looking out for the supporters. Over the years yes there has been support for the club from the local press but it can't have escaped peoples notice that when the chance has arisen (1990 demotion and subsequent reporting, the club going into admin & more recently the DiCanio affair & other stories) they have laid into this club with great "gusto" in terms of the way it reported the news - yes I agree it has to sell papers (although now less so with the advent of the net) but the way things were allowed to be reported at times made me wonder whether they actually wanted the club to survive.

The advent of the "forum" has allowed people to have a say about they feel about the club but are the Adver not supposed to be vetting comments? - they may well vett this one we shall see. It also has to be said that over the last few years they have allowed comments on the forum (in all fairness as most forums have) which have been slinging personal insults at the players, the managers and the owners and also allowed various accusations against the club and individuals.

It also has to be said that Sam, especially with the previous board, was given extremely privileged access to the players and managers which I feel he abused to certain extent in terms of the way he subsequently reported some things thereafter during the season(s). This season that privilege and a few others were taken away and maybe there is still a slight grudge held there - the readers have to make up their OWN minds up on that one.

For the record I don't agree with the ban but after all the abuse that has been thrown at the current board you can understand their stance but the Adver reporters should be there (CG) to cover games and report the news as it happens within reason.

Finally I will probably be slated by all for this post but this is simply my opinion or take if you like on the way I have seen things reported over the years (40+) - I realise not everyone sees things the same as we are different with different views of things.

Thanks for reading
Hi All This is just my opinion on the situation regarding the Adver coverage of STFC this season and perhaps more importantly over the years (bearing in mind I have been supporting the club for over 40 years and have seen the reporting). I have never really felt that the Adver has ever been totally (more so in the post League Cup era and beyond) on the side of the club although you could say that they are looking out for the supporters. Over the years yes there has been support for the club from the local press but it can't have escaped peoples notice that when the chance has arisen (1990 demotion and subsequent reporting, the club going into admin & more recently the DiCanio affair & other stories) they have laid into this club with great "gusto" in terms of the way it reported the news - yes I agree it has to sell papers (although now less so with the advent of the net) but the way things were allowed to be reported at times made me wonder whether they actually wanted the club to survive. The advent of the "forum" has allowed people to have a say about they feel about the club but are the Adver not supposed to be vetting comments? - they may well vett this one we shall see. It also has to be said that over the last few years they have allowed comments on the forum (in all fairness as most forums have) which have been slinging personal insults at the players, the managers and the owners and also allowed various accusations against the club and individuals. It also has to be said that Sam, especially with the previous board, was given extremely privileged access to the players and managers which I feel he abused to certain extent in terms of the way he subsequently reported some things thereafter during the season(s). This season that privilege and a few others were taken away and maybe there is still a slight grudge held there - the readers have to make up their OWN minds up on that one. For the record I don't agree with the ban but after all the abuse that has been thrown at the current board you can understand their stance but the Adver reporters should be there (CG) to cover games and report the news as it happens within reason. Finally I will probably be slated by all for this post but this is simply my opinion or take if you like on the way I have seen things reported over the years (40+) - I realise not everyone sees things the same as we are different with different views of things. Thanks for reading Archive Robin
  • Score: 11

10:50am Tue 14 Jan 14

Krazy Kammy says...

We have only heard one side of the story yet many of you are quick to criticise power and STFC. There could be a lot more to this and any one with any common sense would know this.
We have only heard one side of the story yet many of you are quick to criticise power and STFC. There could be a lot more to this and any one with any common sense would know this. Krazy Kammy
  • Score: 3

10:59am Tue 14 Jan 14

Stilloyal says...

My take for what it's worth. The club has shot self in the foot here.
This story was in the public domain so why is Power throwing his toy s about.

Any half intelligent fan would have started to put 2& 2 together on Thursday when the news regarding Rangers sacking stopped coming through, no news is good news. It was obvious that something had changed no talk of Ngoo or another striker so something was afoot and I suggested to a friend that I thought Ranger might be staying.
Tweeting is modern scourge and does more damage a good. I think people should stop ganderflanking ad just get on with it
My take for what it's worth. The club has shot self in the foot here. This story was in the public domain so why is Power throwing his toy s about. Any half intelligent fan would have started to put 2& 2 together on Thursday when the news regarding Rangers sacking stopped coming through, no news is good news. It was obvious that something had changed no talk of Ngoo or another striker so something was afoot and I suggested to a friend that I thought Ranger might be staying. Tweeting is modern scourge and does more damage a good. I think people should stop ganderflanking ad just get on with it Stilloyal
  • Score: 5

11:00am Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

The question I ask is did Power speak to Ferguson personally, read/hear it on his post match interview or was it feed back from Mark Cooper. if it was the latter I would expect a manager in any profession to have had a quiet word with the villain, (Sam), explain to him because of his naivety it could have been a problem and remind him to be more discreet in the future. End of. Not to have it escalated to the chairman to come out and ban the whole newspaper and not the individual concerned. Principally correct, ridiculous response comes to mind!

If this is the only issue, the whole saga sounds a bit OTT from Lee Power, we know he doesn't like the modern media used by Jedi, he prefers the old protocols of official announcements from the club before information is put into the public domain. I would like to hear the club's side of the matter, which I'm sure will be announced sooner or later by the BBC, but would not be surprised if there was more than meets the eye..
The question I ask is did Power speak to Ferguson personally, read/hear it on his post match interview or was it feed back from Mark Cooper. if it was the latter I would expect a manager in any profession to have had a quiet word with the villain, (Sam), explain to him because of his naivety it could have been a problem and remind him to be more discreet in the future. End of. Not to have it escalated to the chairman to come out and ban the whole newspaper and not the individual concerned. Principally correct, ridiculous response comes to mind! If this is the only issue, the whole saga sounds a bit OTT from Lee Power, we know he doesn't like the modern media used by Jedi, he prefers the old protocols of official announcements from the club before information is put into the public domain. I would like to hear the club's side of the matter, which I'm sure will be announced sooner or later by the BBC, but would not be surprised if there was more than meets the eye.. old town robin
  • Score: 3

11:05am Tue 14 Jan 14

Ossie90 says...

you gots ta be kidding me wrote:
What the club hates most is the fact that people comment on these boards, they hate the fact that info leaks out, I can only imagine that banning Sam is a way of shutting the adver up, but all of us fans have a right to voice oppinions, some of us are stupid at times and I am sure say things we dont really mean, debates are had and banter is regular, but I knew on Thursday that Ranger was staying because someone at the club told me, I won't say who because clearly they may then "feel the powers wrath".

This is a ridiculous situation, when Power took over his criticism of twitter was stated with a swipe at Jed saying he would only communicate via the correct media outlets, well I am afraid the adver is the biggest media outlet for our club, also if Power hates social media so much then why not ban all players and staff from all forms of social media and carry on living in the 80's, love it or hate it social media is getting stronger and more popular and will only develop further. many people didn't like Jed's tweets while others felt a closeness to our former chairman because they had a conversation with him and he made himself accessable to the fans, one of my favourite chairman was spearman who regularly sat on supporters busses and went to the away pubs for a beer with the fans, should Power really be looking to cut these types of links with the fans and local press, IMO he shouldn't if the club really are looking to build a community spirit like they keep saying.

To ban Sam for this is ridiculous and sounds to me like a fake reason to ban someone who often reports the truth and not the fiction the club would have you believe, criticise Fredi all you like but he was right about more than has ever been confirmed.

I am not a knocker of Power he has found some useful players and reduced a wage bill by several millions, I also feel going forward he will continue to use his contacts to bring decent players here and eventualy he will get us to the championship, I don't know how much he interfers with the playing side of things or if Cooper is his own man, but I have a friend at the club who has told me the training sessions of Cooper and Williams are 100 times better than they were under Paolo and that the squad love Cooper and Williams which again seems to make it the right choice.

Come on Power pick your dummy up and work it out with the adver, football clubs should work with their local press and not against them.
Fredi is a 'she'.
[quote][p][bold]you gots ta be kidding me[/bold] wrote: What the club hates most is the fact that people comment on these boards, they hate the fact that info leaks out, I can only imagine that banning Sam is a way of shutting the adver up, but all of us fans have a right to voice oppinions, some of us are stupid at times and I am sure say things we dont really mean, debates are had and banter is regular, but I knew on Thursday that Ranger was staying because someone at the club told me, I won't say who because clearly they may then "feel the powers wrath". This is a ridiculous situation, when Power took over his criticism of twitter was stated with a swipe at Jed saying he would only communicate via the correct media outlets, well I am afraid the adver is the biggest media outlet for our club, also if Power hates social media so much then why not ban all players and staff from all forms of social media and carry on living in the 80's, love it or hate it social media is getting stronger and more popular and will only develop further. many people didn't like Jed's tweets while others felt a closeness to our former chairman because they had a conversation with him and he made himself accessable to the fans, one of my favourite chairman was spearman who regularly sat on supporters busses and went to the away pubs for a beer with the fans, should Power really be looking to cut these types of links with the fans and local press, IMO he shouldn't if the club really are looking to build a community spirit like they keep saying. To ban Sam for this is ridiculous and sounds to me like a fake reason to ban someone who often reports the truth and not the fiction the club would have you believe, criticise Fredi all you like but he was right about more than has ever been confirmed. I am not a knocker of Power he has found some useful players and reduced a wage bill by several millions, I also feel going forward he will continue to use his contacts to bring decent players here and eventualy he will get us to the championship, I don't know how much he interfers with the playing side of things or if Cooper is his own man, but I have a friend at the club who has told me the training sessions of Cooper and Williams are 100 times better than they were under Paolo and that the squad love Cooper and Williams which again seems to make it the right choice. Come on Power pick your dummy up and work it out with the adver, football clubs should work with their local press and not against them.[/p][/quote]Fredi is a 'she'. Ossie90
  • Score: 1

11:16am Tue 14 Jan 14

the don69 says...

Ossie90 wrote:
you gots ta be kidding me wrote:
What the club hates most is the fact that people comment on these boards, they hate the fact that info leaks out, I can only imagine that banning Sam is a way of shutting the adver up, but all of us fans have a right to voice oppinions, some of us are stupid at times and I am sure say things we dont really mean, debates are had and banter is regular, but I knew on Thursday that Ranger was staying because someone at the club told me, I won't say who because clearly they may then "feel the powers wrath".

This is a ridiculous situation, when Power took over his criticism of twitter was stated with a swipe at Jed saying he would only communicate via the correct media outlets, well I am afraid the adver is the biggest media outlet for our club, also if Power hates social media so much then why not ban all players and staff from all forms of social media and carry on living in the 80's, love it or hate it social media is getting stronger and more popular and will only develop further. many people didn't like Jed's tweets while others felt a closeness to our former chairman because they had a conversation with him and he made himself accessable to the fans, one of my favourite chairman was spearman who regularly sat on supporters busses and went to the away pubs for a beer with the fans, should Power really be looking to cut these types of links with the fans and local press, IMO he shouldn't if the club really are looking to build a community spirit like they keep saying.

To ban Sam for this is ridiculous and sounds to me like a fake reason to ban someone who often reports the truth and not the fiction the club would have you believe, criticise Fredi all you like but he was right about more than has ever been confirmed.

I am not a knocker of Power he has found some useful players and reduced a wage bill by several millions, I also feel going forward he will continue to use his contacts to bring decent players here and eventualy he will get us to the championship, I don't know how much he interfers with the playing side of things or if Cooper is his own man, but I have a friend at the club who has told me the training sessions of Cooper and Williams are 100 times better than they were under Paolo and that the squad love Cooper and Williams which again seems to make it the right choice.

Come on Power pick your dummy up and work it out with the adver, football clubs should work with their local press and not against them.
Fredi is a 'she'.
Yeah,Freda!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Ossie90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]you gots ta be kidding me[/bold] wrote: What the club hates most is the fact that people comment on these boards, they hate the fact that info leaks out, I can only imagine that banning Sam is a way of shutting the adver up, but all of us fans have a right to voice oppinions, some of us are stupid at times and I am sure say things we dont really mean, debates are had and banter is regular, but I knew on Thursday that Ranger was staying because someone at the club told me, I won't say who because clearly they may then "feel the powers wrath". This is a ridiculous situation, when Power took over his criticism of twitter was stated with a swipe at Jed saying he would only communicate via the correct media outlets, well I am afraid the adver is the biggest media outlet for our club, also if Power hates social media so much then why not ban all players and staff from all forms of social media and carry on living in the 80's, love it or hate it social media is getting stronger and more popular and will only develop further. many people didn't like Jed's tweets while others felt a closeness to our former chairman because they had a conversation with him and he made himself accessable to the fans, one of my favourite chairman was spearman who regularly sat on supporters busses and went to the away pubs for a beer with the fans, should Power really be looking to cut these types of links with the fans and local press, IMO he shouldn't if the club really are looking to build a community spirit like they keep saying. To ban Sam for this is ridiculous and sounds to me like a fake reason to ban someone who often reports the truth and not the fiction the club would have you believe, criticise Fredi all you like but he was right about more than has ever been confirmed. I am not a knocker of Power he has found some useful players and reduced a wage bill by several millions, I also feel going forward he will continue to use his contacts to bring decent players here and eventualy he will get us to the championship, I don't know how much he interfers with the playing side of things or if Cooper is his own man, but I have a friend at the club who has told me the training sessions of Cooper and Williams are 100 times better than they were under Paolo and that the squad love Cooper and Williams which again seems to make it the right choice. Come on Power pick your dummy up and work it out with the adver, football clubs should work with their local press and not against them.[/p][/quote]Fredi is a 'she'.[/p][/quote]Yeah,Freda!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

11:25am Tue 14 Jan 14

Redgollum says...

umpcah wrote:
BorisIsTheSpider wrote:
madred wrote:
Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever!
Excellent point!
I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.
If he did rejig his starting X1, it didn't do him much good 'cos Ranger scored. I hear that they were better in the 2nd half when he undid the rejigging.
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BorisIsTheSpider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madred[/bold] wrote: Really dissapointed by Powers actions, feel for all STFC fans in exile who rely on Adver web-site to keep up to date with all thats going on at the CG. Keep up the good work Sam, always a good read. On another note, if the manger of my team was selecting players and tactics based on tweets from someone on a stadium tour i dont think i would have much faith in him.... I wonder if this was how Fergie senior became the greatest manager ever![/p][/quote]Excellent point![/p][/quote]I think young Fergie was probably just winding Coops up - a form of gamesmanship again ! He may well have rejigged his pre-match chat but not , I would say , rejigged his starting eleven.[/p][/quote]If he did rejig his starting X1, it didn't do him much good 'cos Ranger scored. I hear that they were better in the 2nd half when he undid the rejigging. Redgollum
  • Score: 1

11:32am Tue 14 Jan 14

Metal Gear says...

Well this is my take on this...

I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc.

The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free.

Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.
Well this is my take on this... I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc. The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free. Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club. Metal Gear
  • Score: 15

11:52am Tue 14 Jan 14

themoonraker says...

LeGod wrote:
Look i think the club have been irresponsible and also the guy who took the photo who was having a tour of the club and Sam for tweeting.

1. STFC if they wanted to keep it secret about Ranger firstly they shouldnt have had his shirt hanging on the peg or they could have said to people on the tour you cant take photos today as we dont want to reveal our team to the opposition.

2. The bloke who took the photo probably wasnt aware of the situation and most fams would have probably done the same and take a photo.

3. Sam had an agreement with the club and although it was out in the public domain i still think he should have kept to his word and not tweeted. If that was the agreement then he should have stuck to it. He could have made a call to Power to tell him what had happenned or someone else at the club and got permission to Tweet.

4. I think the club are going over the top banning him and and should give Sam a rollocking and tell him if he does it again we will ban you.The guy supports the club is a good young reporter and should meet up with Power and settle their differences and Sam to apologise and both of them move on.
at last, in amongst the dross and mindless drivel about the rights and wrongs of this issue, a post that is sensible and points the way forward.
Perhaps somebody should read this post to all at the club and adver so that common sense prevails and we draw a line under this sorry, pathetic episode and move forward.....GROW UP ALL CONCERNED!
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Look i think the club have been irresponsible and also the guy who took the photo who was having a tour of the club and Sam for tweeting. 1. STFC if they wanted to keep it secret about Ranger firstly they shouldnt have had his shirt hanging on the peg or they could have said to people on the tour you cant take photos today as we dont want to reveal our team to the opposition. 2. The bloke who took the photo probably wasnt aware of the situation and most fams would have probably done the same and take a photo. 3. Sam had an agreement with the club and although it was out in the public domain i still think he should have kept to his word and not tweeted. If that was the agreement then he should have stuck to it. He could have made a call to Power to tell him what had happenned or someone else at the club and got permission to Tweet. 4. I think the club are going over the top banning him and and should give Sam a rollocking and tell him if he does it again we will ban you.The guy supports the club is a good young reporter and should meet up with Power and settle their differences and Sam to apologise and both of them move on.[/p][/quote]at last, in amongst the dross and mindless drivel about the rights and wrongs of this issue, a post that is sensible and points the way forward. Perhaps somebody should read this post to all at the club and adver so that common sense prevails and we draw a line under this sorry, pathetic episode and move forward.....GROW UP ALL CONCERNED! themoonraker
  • Score: 0

12:01pm Tue 14 Jan 14

MarksDad says...

I really don't care about this, as the full facts are not known, we have only one side of the story. Have to say I am not surprised as I believe some of the so called reporting has been nothing more than made up to stir up some individuals on here that always look for ways to attack the club.

Anyway more importantly we have a game tonight and look forward to 3 points.

COYR
I really don't care about this, as the full facts are not known, we have only one side of the story. Have to say I am not surprised as I believe some of the so called reporting has been nothing more than made up to stir up some individuals on here that always look for ways to attack the club. Anyway more importantly we have a game tonight and look forward to 3 points. COYR MarksDad
  • Score: 0

12:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

MarksDad wrote:
I really don't care about this, as the full facts are not known, we have only one side of the story. Have to say I am not surprised as I believe some of the so called reporting has been nothing more than made up to stir up some individuals on here that always look for ways to attack the club. Anyway more importantly we have a game tonight and look forward to 3 points. COYR
Yep 3 points tonight would be sweeet, anybody know if Rangers shirt is in the dressing room.....
[quote][p][bold]MarksDad[/bold] wrote: I really don't care about this, as the full facts are not known, we have only one side of the story. Have to say I am not surprised as I believe some of the so called reporting has been nothing more than made up to stir up some individuals on here that always look for ways to attack the club. Anyway more importantly we have a game tonight and look forward to 3 points. COYR[/p][/quote]Yep 3 points tonight would be sweeet, anybody know if Rangers shirt is in the dressing room..... you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: 1

12:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

james says...

Has anyone actually checked if the team Fergie put out was much different to the norm? Knight-Percival (defence) didn't seem to be in the starting 11 for their previous few games, he also scored...
Has anyone actually checked if the team Fergie put out was much different to the norm? Knight-Percival (defence) didn't seem to be in the starting 11 for their previous few games, he also scored... james
  • Score: 0

12:24pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him.

On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good.

As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic.

Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.
Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him. On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good. As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic. Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure. dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: 1

1:03pm Tue 14 Jan 14

harley red says...

POWER IS A F?!£&!G PRAT AND HE WILL RUIN THIS CLUB OF OURS LIKE HE HAS DONE WITH HIS OTHER VENTURES . I HAVE SAID THIS FROM DAY ONE , please leave Mr Power
POWER IS A F?!£&!G PRAT AND HE WILL RUIN THIS CLUB OF OURS LIKE HE HAS DONE WITH HIS OTHER VENTURES . I HAVE SAID THIS FROM DAY ONE , please leave Mr Power harley red
  • Score: -8

1:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

old town robin wrote:
The question I ask is did Power speak to Ferguson personally, read/hear it on his post match interview or was it feed back from Mark Cooper. if it was the latter I would expect a manager in any profession to have had a quiet word with the villain, (Sam), explain to him because of his naivety it could have been a problem and remind him to be more discreet in the future. End of. Not to have it escalated to the chairman to come out and ban the whole newspaper and not the individual concerned. Principally correct, ridiculous response comes to mind!

If this is the only issue, the whole saga sounds a bit OTT from Lee Power, we know he doesn't like the modern media used by Jedi, he prefers the old protocols of official announcements from the club before information is put into the public domain. I would like to hear the club's side of the matter, which I'm sure will be announced sooner or later by the BBC, but would not be surprised if there was more than meets the eye..
As I said earlier, I wonder if this is more to do with the Adver continually running the "Ranger contract to be terminated " story (not exactly true!) rather than what happened on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: The question I ask is did Power speak to Ferguson personally, read/hear it on his post match interview or was it feed back from Mark Cooper. if it was the latter I would expect a manager in any profession to have had a quiet word with the villain, (Sam), explain to him because of his naivety it could have been a problem and remind him to be more discreet in the future. End of. Not to have it escalated to the chairman to come out and ban the whole newspaper and not the individual concerned. Principally correct, ridiculous response comes to mind! If this is the only issue, the whole saga sounds a bit OTT from Lee Power, we know he doesn't like the modern media used by Jedi, he prefers the old protocols of official announcements from the club before information is put into the public domain. I would like to hear the club's side of the matter, which I'm sure will be announced sooner or later by the BBC, but would not be surprised if there was more than meets the eye..[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I wonder if this is more to do with the Adver continually running the "Ranger contract to be terminated " story (not exactly true!) rather than what happened on Saturday. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 3

1:08pm Tue 14 Jan 14

MITTED says...

How long before Mr Power realises that the club gets a lot of free advertising through The Adver?
How long before Mr Power realises that the club gets a lot of free advertising through The Adver? MITTED
  • Score: 0

1:09pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mustard red says...

Sam, this probably explains why you weren't able to find out the whereabouts of Harley on Saturday, and why he wasn't even on the bench.
Sam, this probably explains why you weren't able to find out the whereabouts of Harley on Saturday, and why he wasn't even on the bench. mustard red
  • Score: -1

1:24pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up. Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

1:33pm Tue 14 Jan 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well said Den
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well said Den you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: 0

1:36pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

you gots ta be kidding me wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well said Den
I wonder what would have happened if we had lost?
[quote][p][bold]you gots ta be kidding me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well said Den[/p][/quote]I wonder what would have happened if we had lost? Davidsyrett
  • Score: 2

1:41pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
you gots ta be kidding me wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well said Den
I wonder what would have happened if we had lost?
Peterborough would have got 3 points and we'd have had none.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]you gots ta be kidding me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well said Den[/p][/quote]I wonder what would have happened if we had lost?[/p][/quote]Peterborough would have got 3 points and we'd have had none. Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

1:43pm Tue 14 Jan 14

RamsburyRed says...

Reporters should report, Sam is quite entitled to report any news he obtains, other than something specifically told in confidence. After all, the Ranger saga is the biggest news story at the club. Our club is not big enough to ban media, especially the very supportive local paper. We need all the covergae we can get.
Reporters should report, Sam is quite entitled to report any news he obtains, other than something specifically told in confidence. After all, the Ranger saga is the biggest news story at the club. Our club is not big enough to ban media, especially the very supportive local paper. We need all the covergae we can get. RamsburyRed
  • Score: -1

1:52pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
you gots ta be kidding me wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well said Den
I wonder what would have happened if we had lost?
Peterborough would have got 3 points and we'd have had none.
HaHa Den,good one!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]you gots ta be kidding me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well said Den[/p][/quote]I wonder what would have happened if we had lost?[/p][/quote]Peterborough would have got 3 points and we'd have had none.[/p][/quote]HaHa Den,good one!! Davidsyrett
  • Score: -2

2:23pm Tue 14 Jan 14

MoonrakerMatelot says...

Boring. Don't care. It's all conjecture. More interested in what happens on the pitch for 90 mins. Hoping Town will carry their home form away tonight and come back to Wiltshire with 3 points. COYR!
Boring. Don't care. It's all conjecture. More interested in what happens on the pitch for 90 mins. Hoping Town will carry their home form away tonight and come back to Wiltshire with 3 points. COYR! MoonrakerMatelot
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Tue 14 Jan 14

smirg kcab says...

Surprised it's taken this long to remove you, after the McCormick and the remark which offended sick people the other week.
Surprised it's taken this long to remove you, after the McCormick and the remark which offended sick people the other week. smirg kcab
  • Score: 1

3:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

LeGod says...

No loss Thomas going to play for fat boy at Rotherham couldn't score for muff who have a better style of play than Rotherham so unlikely to set the world alight. Another big time Charlie who thinks he's better than what he is.
No loss Thomas going to play for fat boy at Rotherham couldn't score for muff who have a better style of play than Rotherham so unlikely to set the world alight. Another big time Charlie who thinks he's better than what he is. LeGod
  • Score: 3

3:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Surprised it's taken this long to remove you, after the McCormick and the remark which offended sick people the other week.
who?
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Surprised it's taken this long to remove you, after the McCormick and the remark which offended sick people the other week.[/p][/quote]who? Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

3:54pm Tue 14 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

Metal Gear wrote:
Well this is my take on this...

I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc.

The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free.

Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.
But not everyone has access to the internet , there are still many out there who still rely on the local rag and local radio to help them keep up to speed with events at the football club.
[quote][p][bold]Metal Gear[/bold] wrote: Well this is my take on this... I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc. The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free. Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.[/p][/quote]But not everyone has access to the internet , there are still many out there who still rely on the local rag and local radio to help them keep up to speed with events at the football club. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

3:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

smirg kcab says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Surprised it's taken this long to remove you, after the McCormick and the remark which offended sick people the other week.
who?
Who's the headlines about?
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Surprised it's taken this long to remove you, after the McCormick and the remark which offended sick people the other week.[/p][/quote]who?[/p][/quote]Who's the headlines about? smirg kcab
  • Score: 3

4:12pm Tue 14 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t
I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t lifelong red
  • Score: -3

4:21pm Tue 14 Jan 14

the don69 says...

Ranger does what he wants! Del-boy Power of course he does what he wants! but according to the Power,Sam and the Adver must do what their told! Good job Powers not playing tonight our defence is dodgy enough without any own-goals from the Power!!!!!!!!!
Ranger does what he wants! Del-boy Power of course he does what he wants! but according to the Power,Sam and the Adver must do what their told! Good job Powers not playing tonight our defence is dodgy enough without any own-goals from the Power!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 7

4:23pm Tue 14 Jan 14

FORZASTFC says...

Agreed Lifelong red.
But why oh why would you hang Ranger's shirt up in players changing room fully aware that they are having stadium tours???????? Baffling :-(
Agreed Lifelong red. But why oh why would you hang Ranger's shirt up in players changing room fully aware that they are having stadium tours???????? Baffling :-( FORZASTFC
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Tue 14 Jan 14

ya mums got facial hair says...

lifelong red wrote:
I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t
Why? They banned him from a pre season tour also.
Surprised the adver still employs him.
A wind up merchant who tries to turn fans against each other.
And takes the pee out of the sick with his stupid idea of journalism.
Still he's doing a poll if you want to save his bacon, which I won't.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t[/p][/quote]Why? They banned him from a pre season tour also. Surprised the adver still employs him. A wind up merchant who tries to turn fans against each other. And takes the pee out of the sick with his stupid idea of journalism. Still he's doing a poll if you want to save his bacon, which I won't. ya mums got facial hair
  • Score: 0

4:36pm Tue 14 Jan 14

jayden says...

Good job nobody lifted any of the shirts now that would be a headline.
Good job nobody lifted any of the shirts now that would be a headline. jayden
  • Score: 2

4:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Metal Gear says...

lifelong red wrote:
Metal Gear wrote:
Well this is my take on this...

I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc.

The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free.

Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.
But not everyone has access to the internet , there are still many out there who still rely on the local rag and local radio to help them keep up to speed with events at the football club.
I take your point about not everyone having access to the internet but the vast majority do and many public areas, pubs and restaurants offer free wifi. There's also been a massive increase in people accessing the internet via smartphones in recent years.

The point I was making is that there are now more sources of news, information and opinions on STFC than at any other time during our history and you don't have to pay for them. More blogs, twitter accounts, facebook accounts, forums, podcasts, websites and instagram accounts than I could list here.

I like the Adver and usually buy a copy each week with the match preview in but it is not the only source of STFC news. Before we had the local paper and local radio and that was it now we have a lot more choice.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Metal Gear[/bold] wrote: Well this is my take on this... I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc. The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free. Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.[/p][/quote]But not everyone has access to the internet , there are still many out there who still rely on the local rag and local radio to help them keep up to speed with events at the football club.[/p][/quote]I take your point about not everyone having access to the internet but the vast majority do and many public areas, pubs and restaurants offer free wifi. There's also been a massive increase in people accessing the internet via smartphones in recent years. The point I was making is that there are now more sources of news, information and opinions on STFC than at any other time during our history and you don't have to pay for them. More blogs, twitter accounts, facebook accounts, forums, podcasts, websites and instagram accounts than I could list here. I like the Adver and usually buy a copy each week with the match preview in but it is not the only source of STFC news. Before we had the local paper and local radio and that was it now we have a lot more choice. Metal Gear
  • Score: 3

5:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

gingerdad says...

Brainy_G93 wrote:
Don't give the club any publicity at all..... They'd soon have you back then.
Absolutely. News blackout on stfc. Massive spreads on Salisbury. Go for it Sam.
[quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: Don't give the club any publicity at all..... They'd soon have you back then.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. News blackout on stfc. Massive spreads on Salisbury. Go for it Sam. gingerdad
  • Score: -1

5:31pm Tue 14 Jan 14

gingerdad says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him.

On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good.

As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic.

Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.
Town are still too SLOW in attack. Look at the way visitors slice through our cover and create chances. We need to do that. The video shows that had chances been taken we would have lost on Saturday -like we could have done against Coventry.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him. On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good. As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic. Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.[/p][/quote]Town are still too SLOW in attack. Look at the way visitors slice through our cover and create chances. We need to do that. The video shows that had chances been taken we would have lost on Saturday -like we could have done against Coventry. gingerdad
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

candlestrobe says...

Oh for goodness sake Adver, what do you expect. Straw. Came'ls back.

1) You allow slander, unfounded rumour and full-on abuse against club individuals to take place on this, your website almost daily

2) Twitter is not fully a public domain and this was clearly an attempt at scooping other media outlets.

3) Maintaining that a reporter does not officially represent the Adver in tweets is naive in the extreme.

4) Allowing stories and leaks from the county ground to appear here from mysterious sources, but not investigating or reporting on them might lead some to suspect they come from a local media source.

5) This paper and its sports reporter pretty much rely on BBC Wiltshire interviews for most of your quotes anyway.

So, if you're reading this Mr Adver Editor, I suggest you pay a bit more attention to these forums and monitor your local sports coverage a bit more closely.
Oh for goodness sake Adver, what do you expect. Straw. Came'ls back. 1) You allow slander, unfounded rumour and full-on abuse against club individuals to take place on this, your website almost daily 2) Twitter is not fully a public domain and this was clearly an attempt at scooping other media outlets. 3) Maintaining that a reporter does not officially represent the Adver in tweets is naive in the extreme. 4) Allowing stories and leaks from the county ground to appear here from mysterious sources, but not investigating or reporting on them might lead some to suspect they come from a local media source. 5) This paper and its sports reporter pretty much rely on BBC Wiltshire interviews for most of your quotes anyway. So, if you're reading this Mr Adver Editor, I suggest you pay a bit more attention to these forums and monitor your local sports coverage a bit more closely. candlestrobe
  • Score: 6

5:39pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well since the transfer window opened the only departure has been Sam.... no one saw that coming, despite all the done deals that haven't yet come to fruition. Lol !

You just couldn't make it up or could you ?.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well since the transfer window opened the only departure has been Sam.... no one saw that coming, despite all the done deals that haven't yet come to fruition. Lol ! You just couldn't make it up or could you ?. Cleuso
  • Score: 1

5:42pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Chish and Fips says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well since the transfer window opened the only departure has been Sam.... no one saw that coming, despite all the done deals that haven't yet come to fruition. Lol !

You just couldn't make it up or could you ?.
Heard the STFC tea-lady has meeting with her boss shortly ... watch this space :o)
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well since the transfer window opened the only departure has been Sam.... no one saw that coming, despite all the done deals that haven't yet come to fruition. Lol ! You just couldn't make it up or could you ?.[/p][/quote]Heard the STFC tea-lady has meeting with her boss shortly ... watch this space :o) Chish and Fips
  • Score: 0

5:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Just a thought but I am not sure the Shirt tweet would have verified that Ranger was playing. I have been on a number of stadium tours and the shirts are always hanging up in the home dressing room. What I can't remember is whether a shirt was on display for a player that was not then involved in the match. As the kit man is unlikely to know the team at 10am then I suspect the shirts of most (fit) players are hung up.

COYMR
Just a thought but I am not sure the Shirt tweet would have verified that Ranger was playing. I have been on a number of stadium tours and the shirts are always hanging up in the home dressing room. What I can't remember is whether a shirt was on display for a player that was not then involved in the match. As the kit man is unlikely to know the team at 10am then I suspect the shirts of most (fit) players are hung up. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

gingerdad wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him. On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good. As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic. Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.
Town are still too SLOW in attack. Look at the way visitors slice through our cover and create chances. We need to do that. The video shows that had chances been taken we would have lost on Saturday -like we could have done against Coventry.
The videos also show that we scored more goals than Coventry and Peterborough which is why we won.

The video of the Wolves match probably showed that IF we had taken our chances we would have won. We didn't, Peterborough didn't and Coventry didn't.

That's football !!!

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]gingerdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him. On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good. As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic. Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.[/p][/quote]Town are still too SLOW in attack. Look at the way visitors slice through our cover and create chances. We need to do that. The video shows that had chances been taken we would have lost on Saturday -like we could have done against Coventry.[/p][/quote]The videos also show that we scored more goals than Coventry and Peterborough which is why we won. The video of the Wolves match probably showed that IF we had taken our chances we would have won. We didn't, Peterborough didn't and Coventry didn't. That's football !!! COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

ya mums got facial hair wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t
Why? They banned him from a pre season tour also.
Surprised the adver still employs him.
A wind up merchant who tries to turn fans against each other.
And takes the pee out of the sick with his stupid idea of journalism.
Still he's doing a poll if you want to save his bacon, which I won't.
I take on board your scathing remarks regarding Sam morshead - your entitled to your opinions . Mine is that he is just a young man trying to do his job to the best of his ability.
[quote][p][bold]ya mums got facial hair[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t[/p][/quote]Why? They banned him from a pre season tour also. Surprised the adver still employs him. A wind up merchant who tries to turn fans against each other. And takes the pee out of the sick with his stupid idea of journalism. Still he's doing a poll if you want to save his bacon, which I won't.[/p][/quote]I take on board your scathing remarks regarding Sam morshead - your entitled to your opinions . Mine is that he is just a young man trying to do his job to the best of his ability. lifelong red
  • Score: 1

6:00pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

gingerdad wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him. On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good. As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic. Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.
Town are still too SLOW in attack. Look at the way visitors slice through our cover and create chances. We need to do that. The video shows that had chances been taken we would have lost on Saturday -like we could have done against Coventry.
The videos also show that we scored more goals than Coventry and Peterborough which is why we won.

The video of the Wolves match probably showed that IF we had taken our chances we would have won. We didn't, Peterborough didn't and Coventry didn't.

That's football !!!

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]gingerdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Ranger has been done to death so won't add any more. Feel Navaro is getting an almighty kicking in these threads. Yes he's on loads of money but that's not his fault, doubt he's played for us fully fit. He'll be off when his contract is done just feel its over the top on him. On the game Saturday. Branco was very good, but word of warning watching the back line both him and Wardy were guilty of dropping off independently, breaking the line. Wardy gave Branco some opportunities to us his pace to get them out if jail. Just an observation that hopefully they can work on. That said very happy for Branco who looked good. As good as Ranger was I'd still like to see him start the defending from the front and I feel Pritch', Massimo & Massimo lack a certain urgency in closing down too. Again just an observation that worries me a bit. That said I felt every time we got the ball we could score so quietly optimistic. Ps Power huge rik banning the adver. Have a word with yourself, you've done so much good but that's petty for sure.[/p][/quote]Town are still too SLOW in attack. Look at the way visitors slice through our cover and create chances. We need to do that. The video shows that had chances been taken we would have lost on Saturday -like we could have done against Coventry.[/p][/quote]The videos also show that we scored more goals than Coventry and Peterborough which is why we won. The video of the Wolves match probably showed that IF we had taken our chances we would have won. We didn't, Peterborough didn't and Coventry didn't. That's football !!! COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Tue 14 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

Metal Gear wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
Metal Gear wrote:
Well this is my take on this...

I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc.

The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free.

Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.
But not everyone has access to the internet , there are still many out there who still rely on the local rag and local radio to help them keep up to speed with events at the football club.
I take your point about not everyone having access to the internet but the vast majority do and many public areas, pubs and restaurants offer free wifi. There's also been a massive increase in people accessing the internet via smartphones in recent years.

The point I was making is that there are now more sources of news, information and opinions on STFC than at any other time during our history and you don't have to pay for them. More blogs, twitter accounts, facebook accounts, forums, podcasts, websites and instagram accounts than I could list here.

I like the Adver and usually buy a copy each week with the match preview in but it is not the only source of STFC news. Before we had the local paper and local radio and that was it now we have a lot more choice.
Point taken.
[quote][p][bold]Metal Gear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Metal Gear[/bold] wrote: Well this is my take on this... I believe the Adver needs STFC more than STFC needs the Adver. Times have changed with the internet and we live in a world where football clubs are covered by thousands of fans whether that's in forums, comments sections, Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram, blogs etc. The days of one reporter at one local paper having a monopoly on the clubs news are gone. Local papers don't like this partly because they are trying to deal with declining numbers of physical papers sold (they are not making as much money as they used to) and because people can go online anytime to numerous sources and find more up to date information for free. Take away the Advers STFC coverage from the back pages and there would be almost nothing there aside from some Speedway and amateur boxing news. I like the Adver and Sam's reports so I hope the situation gets resolved but news will be generated regardless. This ban will hurt the paper more than the club.[/p][/quote]But not everyone has access to the internet , there are still many out there who still rely on the local rag and local radio to help them keep up to speed with events at the football club.[/p][/quote]I take your point about not everyone having access to the internet but the vast majority do and many public areas, pubs and restaurants offer free wifi. There's also been a massive increase in people accessing the internet via smartphones in recent years. The point I was making is that there are now more sources of news, information and opinions on STFC than at any other time during our history and you don't have to pay for them. More blogs, twitter accounts, facebook accounts, forums, podcasts, websites and instagram accounts than I could list here. I like the Adver and usually buy a copy each week with the match preview in but it is not the only source of STFC news. Before we had the local paper and local radio and that was it now we have a lot more choice.[/p][/quote]Point taken. lifelong red
  • Score: 0

7:14pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.
Well since the transfer window opened the only departure has been Sam.... no one saw that coming, despite all the done deals that haven't yet come to fruition. Lol !

You just couldn't make it up or could you ?.
Quite so Cleuso - but I'm not sure why you've drawn that to my attention.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: The phrase "storm in a teacup" was never more apt. Power hangs a young reporter out to dry, fans come up with sinister theories about the motives of the Peterborough manager, supporters around the world will be deprived of their usual source of STFC information - and all this because the club made a minor c0ck-up that resulted in nothing untoward. You really couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Well since the transfer window opened the only departure has been Sam.... no one saw that coming, despite all the done deals that haven't yet come to fruition. Lol ! You just couldn't make it up or could you ?.[/p][/quote]Quite so Cleuso - but I'm not sure why you've drawn that to my attention. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

8:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

ya mums got facial hair wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t
Why? They banned him from a pre season tour also.
Surprised the adver still employs him.
A wind up merchant who tries to turn fans against each other.
And takes the pee out of the sick with his stupid idea of journalism.
Still he's doing a poll if you want to save his bacon, which I won't.
Good points made, but should it be a ban on the Adver or just Sam. i think the latter on the reasons you have raised.
[quote][p][bold]ya mums got facial hair[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for Sam Morshead ,it appears he s damned if he does and damned if he don t[/p][/quote]Why? They banned him from a pre season tour also. Surprised the adver still employs him. A wind up merchant who tries to turn fans against each other. And takes the pee out of the sick with his stupid idea of journalism. Still he's doing a poll if you want to save his bacon, which I won't.[/p][/quote]Good points made, but should it be a ban on the Adver or just Sam. i think the latter on the reasons you have raised. old town robin
  • Score: -4

10:04pm Tue 14 Jan 14

neiluk says...

candlestrobe wrote:
Oh for goodness sake Adver, what do you expect. Straw. Came'ls back.

1) You allow slander, unfounded rumour and full-on abuse against club individuals to take place on this, your website almost daily

2) Twitter is not fully a public domain and this was clearly an attempt at scooping other media outlets.

3) Maintaining that a reporter does not officially represent the Adver in tweets is naive in the extreme.

4) Allowing stories and leaks from the county ground to appear here from mysterious sources, but not investigating or reporting on them might lead some to suspect they come from a local media source.

5) This paper and its sports reporter pretty much rely on BBC Wiltshire interviews for most of your quotes anyway.

So, if you're reading this Mr Adver Editor, I suggest you pay a bit more attention to these forums and monitor your local sports coverage a bit more closely.
Here here.
[quote][p][bold]candlestrobe[/bold] wrote: Oh for goodness sake Adver, what do you expect. Straw. Came'ls back. 1) You allow slander, unfounded rumour and full-on abuse against club individuals to take place on this, your website almost daily 2) Twitter is not fully a public domain and this was clearly an attempt at scooping other media outlets. 3) Maintaining that a reporter does not officially represent the Adver in tweets is naive in the extreme. 4) Allowing stories and leaks from the county ground to appear here from mysterious sources, but not investigating or reporting on them might lead some to suspect they come from a local media source. 5) This paper and its sports reporter pretty much rely on BBC Wiltshire interviews for most of your quotes anyway. So, if you're reading this Mr Adver Editor, I suggest you pay a bit more attention to these forums and monitor your local sports coverage a bit more closely.[/p][/quote]Here here. neiluk
  • Score: 4

11:16pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mancrobin says...

Power has made a massive mistake here and doesn't have long to redeem himself.

He clearly makes all the decisions. Has seen off Jed, neutered Mark, indulged Nile, and now banned Sam.

I've not got a problem with a strong decision maker and after all, he pays the money and can call the shots

But

He has apparently done all this for the benefit of us fans?

Ok

Us fans want to know (a true account) of what's going on, told in a timely fashion. How does Power intend to do that on a regular basis now that the Adver has been banned? Why not use the Trust as his outlet for a weekly blog/fans forum? Why not use the Trust to publish the long awaited easy to read version of the accounts?

Or

Why not just use the Adver? Whilst Sam can be a bit of a wind up merchant at times, for a journalist he has got some endearing qualities as far as I can see. He's articulate, he's passionate about his subject and he navigates a dodgy ethical environment well.

So

3 options Mr Power:
1. Give Sam back access to the club.
2. Give regular, accurate information for the Trust to publish.
3. Admit you're a megalomaniac

Your choice Lee. We're all waiting.
Power has made a massive mistake here and doesn't have long to redeem himself. He clearly makes all the decisions. Has seen off Jed, neutered Mark, indulged Nile, and now banned Sam. I've not got a problem with a strong decision maker and after all, he pays the money and can call the shots But He has apparently done all this for the benefit of us fans? Ok Us fans want to know (a true account) of what's going on, told in a timely fashion. How does Power intend to do that on a regular basis now that the Adver has been banned? Why not use the Trust as his outlet for a weekly blog/fans forum? Why not use the Trust to publish the long awaited easy to read version of the accounts? Or Why not just use the Adver? Whilst Sam can be a bit of a wind up merchant at times, for a journalist he has got some endearing qualities as far as I can see. He's articulate, he's passionate about his subject and he navigates a dodgy ethical environment well. So 3 options Mr Power: 1. Give Sam back access to the club. 2. Give regular, accurate information for the Trust to publish. 3. Admit you're a megalomaniac Your choice Lee. We're all waiting. mancrobin
  • Score: -1

10:20am Wed 15 Jan 14

itslove says...

Support is with you Sam and the Adver . Lee Power out for me . Mark Cooper isn't good enough either . He can get us to mid table that will be his limit . Good enough for some , not for us .
Support is with you Sam and the Adver . Lee Power out for me . Mark Cooper isn't good enough either . He can get us to mid table that will be his limit . Good enough for some , not for us . itslove
  • Score: 0

1:49pm Wed 15 Jan 14

cueball says...

Plenty of other clubs around Wiltshire who would benefit from Adver support. Go for a complete Power blackout on STFC news until they let you back in the press box.
Plenty of other clubs around Wiltshire who would benefit from Adver support. Go for a complete Power blackout on STFC news until they let you back in the press box. cueball
  • Score: 0

3:10pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Swindon1984 says...

candlestrobe wrote:
Oh for goodness sake Adver, what do you expect. Straw. Came'ls back. 1) You allow slander, unfounded rumour and full-on abuse against club individuals to take place on this, your website almost daily 2) Twitter is not fully a public domain and this was clearly an attempt at scooping other media outlets. 3) Maintaining that a reporter does not officially represent the Adver in tweets is naive in the extreme. 4) Allowing stories and leaks from the county ground to appear here from mysterious sources, but not investigating or reporting on them might lead some to suspect they come from a local media source. 5) This paper and its sports reporter pretty much rely on BBC Wiltshire interviews for most of your quotes anyway. So, if you're reading this Mr Adver Editor, I suggest you pay a bit more attention to these forums and monitor your local sports coverage a bit more closely.
Really hadn't looked at it in that way before, opposite view to what I originally posted but to be honest you've given me a lot to think about! The "rumour" presented as "fact" on this website by anonymous posters has been a concern and has gone beyond this website with allegations being regurgitated by others elsewhere. Being hosted on the adver site, I would guess they have some duty of care to moderate the content, although couldn't say for certain.
[quote][p][bold]candlestrobe[/bold] wrote: Oh for goodness sake Adver, what do you expect. Straw. Came'ls back. 1) You allow slander, unfounded rumour and full-on abuse against club individuals to take place on this, your website almost daily 2) Twitter is not fully a public domain and this was clearly an attempt at scooping other media outlets. 3) Maintaining that a reporter does not officially represent the Adver in tweets is naive in the extreme. 4) Allowing stories and leaks from the county ground to appear here from mysterious sources, but not investigating or reporting on them might lead some to suspect they come from a local media source. 5) This paper and its sports reporter pretty much rely on BBC Wiltshire interviews for most of your quotes anyway. So, if you're reading this Mr Adver Editor, I suggest you pay a bit more attention to these forums and monitor your local sports coverage a bit more closely.[/p][/quote]Really hadn't looked at it in that way before, opposite view to what I originally posted but to be honest you've given me a lot to think about! The "rumour" presented as "fact" on this website by anonymous posters has been a concern and has gone beyond this website with allegations being regurgitated by others elsewhere. Being hosted on the adver site, I would guess they have some duty of care to moderate the content, although couldn't say for certain. Swindon1984
  • Score: 0

9:27pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Wimsey_in_Seattle says...

I rely on this website - and related tweets - for 98% or my news about STFC. I live in Seattle, Washington, so can't just go down to the pub and chat with folks and get caught up on what's happening.

This ban is devastating for fans like myself, who staunchly support the team from a distance. And it hurts the team.

Hope Lee Power gets over it ASAP. And also hope he reads all of the comments above mine and gets some better perspective for the future,
I rely on this website - and related tweets - for 98% or my news about STFC. I live in Seattle, Washington, so can't just go down to the pub and chat with folks and get caught up on what's happening. This ban is devastating for fans like myself, who staunchly support the team from a distance. And it hurts the team. Hope Lee Power gets over it ASAP. And also hope he reads all of the comments above mine and gets some better perspective for the future, Wimsey_in_Seattle
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Perhaps STFC thought your recent attempts at "humour" were as unfunny as everyone I know did?

Anyway, LOL, basically. Quite amusing that the Adver runs a poll and then finds out most fans support the club - says a lot about how they feel about the rag and/or its reporter.

Still, Di Canio probably good do with a PR bloke at some stage. Maybe you go back to that?
Perhaps STFC thought your recent attempts at "humour" were as unfunny as everyone I know did? Anyway, LOL, basically. Quite amusing that the Adver runs a poll and then finds out most fans support the club - says a lot about how they feel about the rag and/or its reporter. Still, Di Canio probably good do with a PR bloke at some stage. Maybe you go back to that? Jeremy Hilary Boob
  • Score: 0

2:11am Sat 25 Jan 14

leader1111 says...

Sam is indeed a credit to the Advert and the Town. Lee Power needs to stop being petty.
Sam is indeed a credit to the Advert and the Town. Lee Power needs to stop being petty. leader1111
  • Score: 0

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