Have Town splashed the cash?

Michael Smith

Michael Smith

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SWINDON Town were last night unable to confirm whether or not they had signed Charlton Athletic striker Michael Smith, despite reports suggesting the frontman had penned a contract in Wiltshire.

The Advertiser was yesterday made aware of interest in the six-foot, four-inch hitman but, when questioned by this paper, Town denied that an approach had been made for the 22-year-old. However, reports emerging at around 8.30pm last night claimed Smith had joined the Robins for a £200,000 fee.

Addicks boss Chris Powell told press after his side's 3-0 FA Cup win at Oxford last night that Smith was in talks with the Robins with the view to making the move.

The former Darlington man moved to The Valley in August 2011 but has struggled to break into Charlton manager Powell’s first team and he made just two appearances during his time in south east London.

He has spent spells out on loan at Accrington Stanley, Newport County, Colchester United and most recently AFC Wimbledon, where he scored 10 goals in 25 appearances over the first half of this season.

As the Adver went to press last night, Town had still yet to confirm that Smith had signed for the club.

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6:20am Wed 22 Jan 14

newburymike says...

Why can't it just be simple supporting STFC!
Why can't it just be simple supporting STFC! newburymike
  • Score: 5

6:33am Wed 22 Jan 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Maybe the Adver will get banned for breaking the news before anything has been finalised.
Maybe the Adver will get banned for breaking the news before anything has been finalised. Brainy_G93
  • Score: 7

6:34am Wed 22 Jan 14

smirg kcab says...

Sm shouldn't read the rumour sites
Sm shouldn't read the rumour sites smirg kcab
  • Score: -9

7:26am Wed 22 Jan 14

california andy says...

Nothing at all on the Charlton website.
Nothing at all on the Charlton website. california andy
  • Score: 2

7:47am Wed 22 Jan 14

Billy hunt 65 says...

Get Jedi back on twitter he will tell us or is he still spending his 300k :))
Get Jedi back on twitter he will tell us or is he still spending his 300k :)) Billy hunt 65
  • Score: 0

7:58am Wed 22 Jan 14

LeGod says...

Well we will find out today if true. I see Ajose scored a hat trick for Peterborough last night.
Well we will find out today if true. I see Ajose scored a hat trick for Peterborough last night. LeGod
  • Score: 3

7:59am Wed 22 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

If only the article was outlining a new central defender had been purchased. All good having it up top but we still won't make playoffs no matter what's up front with our back line
If only the article was outlining a new central defender had been purchased. All good having it up top but we still won't make playoffs no matter what's up front with our back line Graham8181
  • Score: 3

8:19am Wed 22 Jan 14

port de soller says...

Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver port de soller
  • Score: -19

8:26am Wed 22 Jan 14

harley red says...

port de soller wrote:
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
Power is a pain , will be glad to see him go .
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver[/p][/quote]Power is a pain , will be glad to see him go . harley red
  • Score: -41

8:26am Wed 22 Jan 14

Mango man says...

port de soller wrote:
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window!
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver[/p][/quote]It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window! Mango man
  • Score: 19

8:34am Wed 22 Jan 14

old town robin says...

If Michael Smith has signed for us, I doubt Lee will be paying the full amount of the deal up front so financials shouldn't be a problem. Nothing announced on when his contract with Charlton was due to expire but at 22 I guess it could have gone to a tribunal if the clubs couldn't agree the fee. At the price quoted one would think he has shown potential,

We lost El Gabas and AJose, so I see Barker and Smith as their replacements and as long as Nile continues to be available the signings shouldn't effect his immediate future with the club.

Looking forward to playing against manageress Shrews on Saturday, but won't miss hearing Turners wingeing post match interview.
If Michael Smith has signed for us, I doubt Lee will be paying the full amount of the deal up front so financials shouldn't be a problem. Nothing announced on when his contract with Charlton was due to expire but at 22 I guess it could have gone to a tribunal if the clubs couldn't agree the fee. At the price quoted one would think he has shown potential, We lost El Gabas and AJose, so I see Barker and Smith as their replacements and as long as Nile continues to be available the signings shouldn't effect his immediate future with the club. Looking forward to playing against manageress Shrews on Saturday, but won't miss hearing Turners wingeing post match interview. old town robin
  • Score: 7

8:39am Wed 22 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

Mango man wrote:
port de soller wrote:
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window!
Sorry this is just crap hacking- the paper has only just been cleared to talk to the club again and they go steaming in, printing a story which now seems at this stage to be total bowlocks, hence the hastily convened article above.
I'm all for journos like Sam getting the exclusive but let's have at least a modicum of possibility of it happening before rushing into print. As Mallorca has said this is probably just the sort of thing that p!ssed Power off in the first place - especially if they are tracking him and wanted to keep it under wraps.
[quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver[/p][/quote]It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window![/p][/quote]Sorry this is just crap hacking- the paper has only just been cleared to talk to the club again and they go steaming in, printing a story which now seems at this stage to be total bowlocks, hence the hastily convened article above. I'm all for journos like Sam getting the exclusive but let's have at least a modicum of possibility of it happening before rushing into print. As Mallorca has said this is probably just the sort of thing that p!ssed Power off in the first place - especially if they are tracking him and wanted to keep it under wraps. The Jockster
  • Score: -21

8:57am Wed 22 Jan 14

Newshoes84 says...

BBC radio wiltshire were the ones who broke this story on their twitter feed last night so in sam's defence he is not stirring up trouble or making up a story and if Chris Powell confirmed we were in talks why shouldnt it be reported?
BBC radio wiltshire were the ones who broke this story on their twitter feed last night so in sam's defence he is not stirring up trouble or making up a story and if Chris Powell confirmed we were in talks why shouldnt it be reported? Newshoes84
  • Score: 24

9:09am Wed 22 Jan 14

RogerJ1969 says...

Where's Fredi?

Has he seen Men in Red again?
Where's Fredi? Has he seen Men in Red again? RogerJ1969
  • Score: -11

9:14am Wed 22 Jan 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

LeGod Ajose did get a hatrick but more importantly for me Assombalonga scored to move joint second in the top goalscorer chart...... 40/1 go on that man.......
LeGod Ajose did get a hatrick but more importantly for me Assombalonga scored to move joint second in the top goalscorer chart...... 40/1 go on that man....... dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: -15

9:15am Wed 22 Jan 14

RogerJ1969 says...

Nicky Ajose scored a hat trick for Posh last night, hope we get the credit for kick starting his career.

Also, Ronan Murray scored for Notts C and then got sent off, all in the first 10 mins.
Nicky Ajose scored a hat trick for Posh last night, hope we get the credit for kick starting his career. Also, Ronan Murray scored for Notts C and then got sent off, all in the first 10 mins. RogerJ1969
  • Score: 4

9:30am Wed 22 Jan 14

the don69 says...

I thought we had no cash to splash Sam? but I hope we have enough to sign Michael Smith,I've heard good things about the lad!!
I thought we had no cash to splash Sam? but I hope we have enough to sign Michael Smith,I've heard good things about the lad!! the don69
  • Score: 6

9:42am Wed 22 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

port de soller wrote:
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
i love gossip like this, keeps me entertained at my boring work. long may it continue adver this website is a beauty for entertainment. you prob want to stick to the Swindon programs they give out on match day then if you only want the official stuff
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver[/p][/quote]i love gossip like this, keeps me entertained at my boring work. long may it continue adver this website is a beauty for entertainment. you prob want to stick to the Swindon programs they give out on match day then if you only want the official stuff Graham8181
  • Score: 11

9:46am Wed 22 Jan 14

LeGod says...

The majority of Transfers are made in stage payments and not in one single payment there are the exceptions ie Ritchie which was made in one payment as we were desperate for the money which is why they got him for a give away price.
The majority of Transfers are made in stage payments and not in one single payment there are the exceptions ie Ritchie which was made in one payment as we were desperate for the money which is why they got him for a give away price. LeGod
  • Score: 7

10:20am Wed 22 Jan 14

STFC 67 says...

The Jockster wrote:
Mango man wrote:
port de soller wrote:
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window!
Sorry this is just crap hacking- the paper has only just been cleared to talk to the club again and they go steaming in, printing a story which now seems at this stage to be total bowlocks, hence the hastily convened article above.
I'm all for journos like Sam getting the exclusive but let's have at least a modicum of possibility of it happening before rushing into print. As Mallorca has said this is probably just the sort of thing that p!ssed Power off in the first place - especially if they are tracking him and wanted to keep it under wraps.
Jockster you are the village idiot
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver[/p][/quote]It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window![/p][/quote]Sorry this is just crap hacking- the paper has only just been cleared to talk to the club again and they go steaming in, printing a story which now seems at this stage to be total bowlocks, hence the hastily convened article above. I'm all for journos like Sam getting the exclusive but let's have at least a modicum of possibility of it happening before rushing into print. As Mallorca has said this is probably just the sort of thing that p!ssed Power off in the first place - especially if they are tracking him and wanted to keep it under wraps.[/p][/quote]Jockster you are the village idiot STFC 67
  • Score: 16

10:29am Wed 22 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

200k seems a lot for a relatively unproven player. If we wanted someone with more experience (and that might not be a bad thing) Barry Corr seems to be doing well at Southend. When he was with us before he played with a broken bone in his back so I don't think we ever saw the best of him. Big guy, strong, skilful and holds the ball up well. Likely to be a lot cheaper than Smith.
200k seems a lot for a relatively unproven player. If we wanted someone with more experience (and that might not be a bad thing) Barry Corr seems to be doing well at Southend. When he was with us before he played with a broken bone in his back so I don't think we ever saw the best of him. Big guy, strong, skilful and holds the ball up well. Likely to be a lot cheaper than Smith. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: -16

10:37am Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury
.
Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too!
This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too! London Red
  • Score: -3

10:38am Wed 22 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

Bit off the subject perhaps - but a couple of my mates are not going on sat -if only we had fans like Portsmouth - if only- if only . Prediction for gate on sat -7,200.
Bit off the subject perhaps - but a couple of my mates are not going on sat -if only we had fans like Portsmouth - if only- if only . Prediction for gate on sat -7,200. lifelong red
  • Score: -2

10:49am Wed 22 Jan 14

Robinonfire says...

WHY ARE POWER/COOPER NOT PLAYING STOREY.

IDIOTS
WHY ARE POWER/COOPER NOT PLAYING STOREY. IDIOTS Robinonfire
  • Score: -16

11:05am Wed 22 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

Robinonfire wrote:
WHY ARE POWER/COOPER NOT PLAYING STOREY.

IDIOTS
Because possibly he's still not proved himself? And of course I agree he won't without an extended game run. With Hall bring out it might be an opportunity to chance the formation to give Miles a run out.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: WHY ARE POWER/COOPER NOT PLAYING STOREY. IDIOTS[/p][/quote]Because possibly he's still not proved himself? And of course I agree he won't without an extended game run. With Hall bring out it might be an opportunity to chance the formation to give Miles a run out. The Jockster
  • Score: 0

11:07am Wed 22 Jan 14

badger58 says...

London Red wrote:
This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury
.
Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too!
LR £15k to Shrewsbury ? Think Exeter might be a little hissed off lol !
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too![/p][/quote]LR £15k to Shrewsbury ? Think Exeter might be a little hissed off lol ! badger58
  • Score: 10

11:19am Wed 22 Jan 14

LeGod says...

Well its on the bbc site now hes signing no mention of fee though and is 200k really correct.
I would imagine we have a couple lined up to go out as well and hopefully some of the dead wood.
He's 6,4 this bloke which is what we need abit of height and definelty need a no nonsense takes no prisoners centre back ie a shaun taylor type player - will we get one - who knows. We are too nicey nicey at the back and must be great to play against. When you look at the way we played when we had Hoddle and Ardilles running the team we had some tough players and some good ball players at the moment we have good ball players but no steel anywhere in the side and that is what we need and especially needed when we are away from home.
Well its on the bbc site now hes signing no mention of fee though and is 200k really correct. I would imagine we have a couple lined up to go out as well and hopefully some of the dead wood. He's 6,4 this bloke which is what we need abit of height and definelty need a no nonsense takes no prisoners centre back ie a shaun taylor type player - will we get one - who knows. We are too nicey nicey at the back and must be great to play against. When you look at the way we played when we had Hoddle and Ardilles running the team we had some tough players and some good ball players at the moment we have good ball players but no steel anywhere in the side and that is what we need and especially needed when we are away from home. LeGod
  • Score: 23

11:38am Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

Oh yeah it was Colins from Shrews - still £15k is not much if he is doing a job!
Oh yeah it was Colins from Shrews - still £15k is not much if he is doing a job! London Red
  • Score: -1

11:53am Wed 22 Jan 14

LeGod says...

For those of you who keep on about starting Storey he is not ready yet to be a 90 minute player. Storey is more effective coming off the bench with 20 minutes left and the defences are tiring and his direct attack and pace are ideal at that time of a game.
From the start of a game he will get dominated by more experienced defenders which is why he is best coming on later in a game. His time will come and people have to remember he was out on loan for a reason this season not only to regain fitness but to get a bit more experience as he is still young and being a striker is a big ask.
If he was put in from the start and not scoring people would soon be moaning about him not scoring enough and at the moment i think MC is playing it right with him.
His time will come and the more learning he get from the pro's around him the better it will be for him otherwise playing him regularly could effect his confidence if things dont go well.
He is a good impact player as he did against Coventry and hoefully he will get more chances like that soon.
For those of you who keep on about starting Storey he is not ready yet to be a 90 minute player. Storey is more effective coming off the bench with 20 minutes left and the defences are tiring and his direct attack and pace are ideal at that time of a game. From the start of a game he will get dominated by more experienced defenders which is why he is best coming on later in a game. His time will come and people have to remember he was out on loan for a reason this season not only to regain fitness but to get a bit more experience as he is still young and being a striker is a big ask. If he was put in from the start and not scoring people would soon be moaning about him not scoring enough and at the moment i think MC is playing it right with him. His time will come and the more learning he get from the pro's around him the better it will be for him otherwise playing him regularly could effect his confidence if things dont go well. He is a good impact player as he did against Coventry and hoefully he will get more chances like that soon. LeGod
  • Score: 24

12:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

stfcjack says...

Sounds a decent prospect this guy
Sounds a decent prospect this guy stfcjack
  • Score: 9

12:23pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

From the South london Press:
SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith
.
Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman
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And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000
.
Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons
.
10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him! London Red
  • Score: 18

1:17pm Wed 22 Jan 14

the don69 says...

Power must have raided one of his Swiss bank accounts! cause I've heard it's a done deal,we keep hearing we're skint and can't pay our bills,ain't got a pot to p1ss in! where's this dosh coming from Lee? anyway he's a very good prospect and lets hope he does the business and bangs in a few!!!!!!!!
Power must have raided one of his Swiss bank accounts! cause I've heard it's a done deal,we keep hearing we're skint and can't pay our bills,ain't got a pot to p1ss in! where's this dosh coming from Lee? anyway he's a very good prospect and lets hope he does the business and bangs in a few!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 5

1:21pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Stilloyal says...

Not sure about the advertising on is top in the picture above SUB ? for that money I'd want more. ::-)
Not sure about the advertising on is top in the picture above SUB ? for that money I'd want more. ::-) Stilloyal
  • Score: 2

1:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

RamsburyRed says...

London Red wrote:
From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved. RamsburyRed
  • Score: 5

1:30pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Wilesy says...

Looks a very good signing on paper and bearing in mind 10 clubs were after him, and Coopers negative views on Ranger and his desire for a new number 9, I presume this will mean he's not come here to warm the bench.

Interesting now for Ranger - can or should he play alongside? Will it give him the kick up the backside he needs to keep his place?

With any luck Cooper will have noted Uwe Rosler's comments on the football tactics he will employ at Wigan - "I want to concentrate on quick transitions, quick attacking football with short, forward passes and lots of attempts on goal. That is the way for the modern game. Teams in Germany in general play like that but especially Borussia Dortmund who have achieved success with that sort of football"

I see Ajose and Assombalongo have now formed a little and large partnership at Posh and have now scored 7 in 2 games, Storey and Smith for Swindon maybe?

Shrewsbury are there for the taking on Saturday. They can't sign a player for love or money, (3 or 4 they were after have ended up elsewhere) the manager and his team have left this week, and they sit in the relegation zone after a dreadful run of form. It's a real chance for Cooper to turn things around surprise us all and go for it. Personally I hope he changes his tactics to 2 up top with wingers and speeds up play a bit.
Looks a very good signing on paper and bearing in mind 10 clubs were after him, and Coopers negative views on Ranger and his desire for a new number 9, I presume this will mean he's not come here to warm the bench. Interesting now for Ranger - can or should he play alongside? Will it give him the kick up the backside he needs to keep his place? With any luck Cooper will have noted Uwe Rosler's comments on the football tactics he will employ at Wigan - "I want to concentrate on quick transitions, quick attacking football with short, forward passes and lots of attempts on goal. That is the way for the modern game. Teams in Germany in general play like that but especially Borussia Dortmund who have achieved success with that sort of football" I see Ajose and Assombalongo have now formed a little and large partnership at Posh and have now scored 7 in 2 games, Storey and Smith for Swindon maybe? Shrewsbury are there for the taking on Saturday. They can't sign a player for love or money, (3 or 4 they were after have ended up elsewhere) the manager and his team have left this week, and they sit in the relegation zone after a dreadful run of form. It's a real chance for Cooper to turn things around surprise us all and go for it. Personally I hope he changes his tactics to 2 up top with wingers and speeds up play a bit. Wilesy
  • Score: 4

1:41pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote:
From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
[quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!). Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

1:49pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

the don69 wrote:
Power must have raided one of his Swiss bank accounts! cause I've heard it's a done deal,we keep hearing we're skint and can't pay our bills,ain't got a pot to p1ss in! where's this dosh coming from Lee? anyway he's a very good prospect and lets hope he does the business and bangs in a few!!!!!!!!
Where do "we" keep hearing this?
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All I have heard from Power is that finances are covered for this year and we will break even in the summer and have no need to sell anyone
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Power must have raided one of his Swiss bank accounts! cause I've heard it's a done deal,we keep hearing we're skint and can't pay our bills,ain't got a pot to p1ss in! where's this dosh coming from Lee? anyway he's a very good prospect and lets hope he does the business and bangs in a few!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where do "we" keep hearing this? . All I have heard from Power is that finances are covered for this year and we will break even in the summer and have no need to sell anyone London Red
  • Score: 4

1:54pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan
.
Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).[/p][/quote]Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan . Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after! London Red
  • Score: 3

2:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

the don69 says...

London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan
.
Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after!
The big problem with Troy is he's always on the treatment table chaps,if he could stay injury free for a long period, we'd see the best of him,but has his knee gone???
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).[/p][/quote]Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan . Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after![/p][/quote]The big problem with Troy is he's always on the treatment table chaps,if he could stay injury free for a long period, we'd see the best of him,but has his knee gone??? the don69
  • Score: 1

2:17pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

London Red wrote:
This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury
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Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too!
maybe we though Thomas was only worth £150K max, but Smith justifies his £200K price tag.

The gamble with Troy is would he last more than a couple of games, can we gamble £15K on that?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too![/p][/quote]maybe we though Thomas was only worth £150K max, but Smith justifies his £200K price tag. The gamble with Troy is would he last more than a couple of games, can we gamble £15K on that? Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

2:37pm Wed 22 Jan 14

smirg kcab says...

The Jockster wrote:
Mango man wrote:
port de soller wrote:
Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay.
One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick.
Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver
It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window!
Sorry this is just crap hacking- the paper has only just been cleared to talk to the club again and they go steaming in, printing a story which now seems at this stage to be total bowlocks, hence the hastily convened article above.
I'm all for journos like Sam getting the exclusive but let's have at least a modicum of possibility of it happening before rushing into print. As Mallorca has said this is probably just the sort of thing that p!ssed Power off in the first place - especially if they are tracking him and wanted to keep it under wraps.
Is sangita shah our away manager yet ????????
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Again rumours speculation,just news to keep fans at bay. One min skint involved in 3 major pay outs to ex players etc plus pdc´s side kick. Just amazes me why go to print with this????? no wpnder LP gets P....ed with the Adver[/p][/quote]It's called a newspaper, sometimes people like to read fact, gossip and heresay, it'd be a pretty boring world if we only ever read about something when it was all confirmed by every party. Chill out, STFC is no different to any other club during the transfer window![/p][/quote]Sorry this is just crap hacking- the paper has only just been cleared to talk to the club again and they go steaming in, printing a story which now seems at this stage to be total bowlocks, hence the hastily convened article above. I'm all for journos like Sam getting the exclusive but let's have at least a modicum of possibility of it happening before rushing into print. As Mallorca has said this is probably just the sort of thing that p!ssed Power off in the first place - especially if they are tracking him and wanted to keep it under wraps.[/p][/quote]Is sangita shah our away manager yet ???????? smirg kcab
  • Score: -5

2:54pm Wed 22 Jan 14

harley red says...

LeGod wrote:
Well its on the bbc site now hes signing no mention of fee though and is 200k really correct.
I would imagine we have a couple lined up to go out as well and hopefully some of the dead wood.
He's 6,4 this bloke which is what we need abit of height and definelty need a no nonsense takes no prisoners centre back ie a shaun taylor type player - will we get one - who knows. We are too nicey nicey at the back and must be great to play against. When you look at the way we played when we had Hoddle and Ardilles running the team we had some tough players and some good ball players at the moment we have good ball players but no steel anywhere in the side and that is what we need and especially needed when we are away from home.
And the good players aren't as good as they think as they are no better than the league the tar in at the moment , apart from Ranger who could do really well if he got his act together .
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Well its on the bbc site now hes signing no mention of fee though and is 200k really correct. I would imagine we have a couple lined up to go out as well and hopefully some of the dead wood. He's 6,4 this bloke which is what we need abit of height and definelty need a no nonsense takes no prisoners centre back ie a shaun taylor type player - will we get one - who knows. We are too nicey nicey at the back and must be great to play against. When you look at the way we played when we had Hoddle and Ardilles running the team we had some tough players and some good ball players at the moment we have good ball players but no steel anywhere in the side and that is what we need and especially needed when we are away from home.[/p][/quote]And the good players aren't as good as they think as they are no better than the league the tar in at the moment , apart from Ranger who could do really well if he got his act together . harley red
  • Score: -3

3:00pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
London Red wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too!
maybe we though Thomas was only worth £150K max, but Smith justifies his £200K price tag. The gamble with Troy is would he last more than a couple of games, can we gamble £15K on that?
Surely if he doesn't last more than a few games it won't cost us?
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Troy has only played 8 games for us - so he has 9 games before the 15 game payment kicks in (sorry got it wrong way round its £20k per 15 not £15k per 20)
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There are only 20 league games left and potentially 23 with JPT - so even if he was to play all of them it would cost us £20k max as the next payment can't be due until next season - if we renew his deal!
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But if he plays all 23 isn't that worth £20k as he must be doing something right to keep out Branco and Hall (or another if Hall goes LB etc) for the rest of the campaign!
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If he does breakdown then surely it is likely to be before the 9 games trigger kicks in (ala Carlisle loan) and we will still be under 15 games and not have to pay
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Surely we need to see if he has finally recovered and deciding if it is worth keeping him on?
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He wasn't as highly regarded as he was at Exeter for nothing! If he is over it we could have a potentially brillliant CB on our books to build a promotion campaign around!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too![/p][/quote]maybe we though Thomas was only worth £150K max, but Smith justifies his £200K price tag. The gamble with Troy is would he last more than a couple of games, can we gamble £15K on that?[/p][/quote]Surely if he doesn't last more than a few games it won't cost us? . Troy has only played 8 games for us - so he has 9 games before the 15 game payment kicks in (sorry got it wrong way round its £20k per 15 not £15k per 20) . There are only 20 league games left and potentially 23 with JPT - so even if he was to play all of them it would cost us £20k max as the next payment can't be due until next season - if we renew his deal! . But if he plays all 23 isn't that worth £20k as he must be doing something right to keep out Branco and Hall (or another if Hall goes LB etc) for the rest of the campaign! . If he does breakdown then surely it is likely to be before the 9 games trigger kicks in (ala Carlisle loan) and we will still be under 15 games and not have to pay . Surely we need to see if he has finally recovered and deciding if it is worth keeping him on? . He wasn't as highly regarded as he was at Exeter for nothing! If he is over it we could have a potentially brillliant CB on our books to build a promotion campaign around! London Red
  • Score: 3

3:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

the don69 wrote:
London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan
.
Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after!
The big problem with Troy is he's always on the treatment table chaps,if he could stay injury free for a long period, we'd see the best of him,but has his knee gone???
you forgot to mention as well he's cra'p.....
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).[/p][/quote]Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan . Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after![/p][/quote]The big problem with Troy is he's always on the treatment table chaps,if he could stay injury free for a long period, we'd see the best of him,but has his knee gone???[/p][/quote]you forgot to mention as well he's cra'p..... Graham8181
  • Score: -9

3:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Carlo says...

the don69 wrote:
London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan
.
Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after!
The big problem with Troy is he's always on the treatment table chaps,if he could stay injury free for a long period, we'd see the best of him,but has his knee gone???
Troy should be available as soon as CBB finishes next week
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).[/p][/quote]Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan . Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after![/p][/quote]The big problem with Troy is he's always on the treatment table chaps,if he could stay injury free for a long period, we'd see the best of him,but has his knee gone???[/p][/quote]Troy should be available as soon as CBB finishes next week Carlo
  • Score: 1

3:11pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Swindonian63 says...

London Red wrote:
This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury
.
Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too!
Why Shrewsbury?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too![/p][/quote]Why Shrewsbury? Swindonian63
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

MidlandRobin says...

LeGod wrote:
For those of you who keep on about starting Storey he is not ready yet to be a 90 minute player. Storey is more effective coming off the bench with 20 minutes left and the defences are tiring and his direct attack and pace are ideal at that time of a game.
From the start of a game he will get dominated by more experienced defenders which is why he is best coming on later in a game. His time will come and people have to remember he was out on loan for a reason this season not only to regain fitness but to get a bit more experience as he is still young and being a striker is a big ask.
If he was put in from the start and not scoring people would soon be moaning about him not scoring enough and at the moment i think MC is playing it right with him.
His time will come and the more learning he get from the pro's around him the better it will be for him otherwise playing him regularly could effect his confidence if things dont go well.
He is a good impact player as he did against Coventry and hoefully he will get more chances like that soon.
Swindon's Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ;)
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: For those of you who keep on about starting Storey he is not ready yet to be a 90 minute player. Storey is more effective coming off the bench with 20 minutes left and the defences are tiring and his direct attack and pace are ideal at that time of a game. From the start of a game he will get dominated by more experienced defenders which is why he is best coming on later in a game. His time will come and people have to remember he was out on loan for a reason this season not only to regain fitness but to get a bit more experience as he is still young and being a striker is a big ask. If he was put in from the start and not scoring people would soon be moaning about him not scoring enough and at the moment i think MC is playing it right with him. His time will come and the more learning he get from the pro's around him the better it will be for him otherwise playing him regularly could effect his confidence if things dont go well. He is a good impact player as he did against Coventry and hoefully he will get more chances like that soon.[/p][/quote]Swindon's Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ;) MidlandRobin
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
London Red wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too!
maybe we though Thomas was only worth £150K max, but Smith justifies his £200K price tag. The gamble with Troy is would he last more than a couple of games, can we gamble £15K on that?
Surely if he doesn't last more than a few games it won't cost us?
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Troy has only played 8 games for us - so he has 9 games before the 15 game payment kicks in (sorry got it wrong way round its £20k per 15 not £15k per 20)
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There are only 20 league games left and potentially 23 with JPT - so even if he was to play all of them it would cost us £20k max as the next payment can't be due until next season - if we renew his deal!
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But if he plays all 23 isn't that worth £20k as he must be doing something right to keep out Branco and Hall (or another if Hall goes LB etc) for the rest of the campaign!
.
If he does breakdown then surely it is likely to be before the 9 games trigger kicks in (ala Carlisle loan) and we will still be under 15 games and not have to pay
.
Surely we need to see if he has finally recovered and deciding if it is worth keeping him on?
.
He wasn't as highly regarded as he was at Exeter for nothing! If he is over it we could have a potentially brillliant CB on our books to build a promotion campaign around!
I thought the first payment kicked in after 10 games, so if he has another 7 to go then it's certainly worth plying him.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: This is what I don't get - we bid between £100-150k for Thomas and now apparently are paying £200k for Smith - yet Troy can't be considered as if he plays 9 games we will have to pay £15k to Shrewsbury . Now isn't £15k a tiny fraction of £200k? Especially if it shores up our defence and pushes us potentially into the PO's which would pay that £15k over - it would probably pay the next 40 appearances too![/p][/quote]maybe we though Thomas was only worth £150K max, but Smith justifies his £200K price tag. The gamble with Troy is would he last more than a couple of games, can we gamble £15K on that?[/p][/quote]Surely if he doesn't last more than a few games it won't cost us? . Troy has only played 8 games for us - so he has 9 games before the 15 game payment kicks in (sorry got it wrong way round its £20k per 15 not £15k per 20) . There are only 20 league games left and potentially 23 with JPT - so even if he was to play all of them it would cost us £20k max as the next payment can't be due until next season - if we renew his deal! . But if he plays all 23 isn't that worth £20k as he must be doing something right to keep out Branco and Hall (or another if Hall goes LB etc) for the rest of the campaign! . If he does breakdown then surely it is likely to be before the 9 games trigger kicks in (ala Carlisle loan) and we will still be under 15 games and not have to pay . Surely we need to see if he has finally recovered and deciding if it is worth keeping him on? . He wasn't as highly regarded as he was at Exeter for nothing! If he is over it we could have a potentially brillliant CB on our books to build a promotion campaign around![/p][/quote]I thought the first payment kicked in after 10 games, so if he has another 7 to go then it's certainly worth plying him. Davidsyrett
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4:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

Its after 15, 30, 45 and 60 games - adding up to £80k to the £200k we paid up front
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We also have to pay £40k if we get promoted with him in the squad and £100k if we go to the Prem!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
663535
Its after 15, 30, 45 and 60 games - adding up to £80k to the £200k we paid up front . We also have to pay £40k if we get promoted with him in the squad and £100k if we go to the Prem! . http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/19 663535 London Red
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5:14pm Wed 22 Jan 14

swwindon61uk says...

London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan
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Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after!
Games with Troy there 0-0 0-1 1-0 and 3-1
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).[/p][/quote]Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan . Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after![/p][/quote]Games with Troy there 0-0 0-1 1-0 and 3-1 swwindon61uk
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5:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

Carlisle have conceeded 45 in their other 25 games and only kept 2 clean sheets in those 25
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So that run with Troy in it looks very impressive indeed
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I would take 1 against every other game going forward as at the rate we score we would start picking up a fair few away points!
Carlisle have conceeded 45 in their other 25 games and only kept 2 clean sheets in those 25 . So that run with Troy in it looks very impressive indeed . I would take 1 against every other game going forward as at the rate we score we would start picking up a fair few away points! London Red
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Wed 22 Jan 14

London Red says...

Sorry other 23 league games
Sorry other 23 league games London Red
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6:23pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Bassett Hound says...

Troy kept more than clean sheets, in the Sun,and football league papers he was man of the match and made both papers team of the week. The Carlisle manager spoke very highly about him.
Troy kept more than clean sheets, in the Sun,and football league papers he was man of the match and made both papers team of the week. The Carlisle manager spoke very highly about him. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 4

7:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jayden says...

Off subject I took my Grandson to the Arsenal player development trials at Carterton FC on Tuesday and was pleased to see at least some of the boy's were in ST kit and one boy was from the ST under 7.
Off subject I took my Grandson to the Arsenal player development trials at Carterton FC on Tuesday and was pleased to see at least some of the boy's were in ST kit and one boy was from the ST under 7. jayden
  • Score: 2

8:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote:
London Red wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him!
So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.
Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).
Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan
.
Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after!
Yes but Power is clearly heavily reliant on Sherwood. TA-H was at Spurs for a few years and Sherwood presumably knows him well as a player. Could it be that Sherwood has had some input?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: From the South london Press: SWINDON Town have won the race for Charlton striker Michael Smith . Addicks boss Chris Powell recently revealed that more than 10 clubs had enquired about the Geordie targetman . And Swindon have agreed a deal for Smith, who impressed on loan at AFC Wimbledon earlier in the campaign, that could eventually cost £200,000 . Initially the League One club have paid £100,000 - £25,000 more than they splashed out to land him from Darlington in 2011 - with the rest due as add-ons . 10 Clubs interested must mean he has something about him![/p][/quote]So initial outlay more like we were going to pay for Thomas. As for the Troy cost - well, we now know there were some very poor (from STFC perspective) contracts offered under Spencer/PDC, maybe he has a large appearance fee or other factors written in? Maybe a certain number of appearances gaurantees him a new contract on improved money - the club could never afford or stand for that now, we just don't know what factors might be involved.[/p][/quote]Another possibility re Archibald-Henville is that Power doesn't think he's good enough (even if he is an ex-Spurs player!).[/p][/quote]Fair point Ramsbury - didn't think on that side of it - just Adver stating the fee when saying he could go out on loan . Den maybe you are right that he is not viewed highly enough - but surely the best way to see is play him? Lets not forget Carlisle kept clean sheets while he was there but not many before or after![/p][/quote]Yes but Power is clearly heavily reliant on Sherwood. TA-H was at Spurs for a few years and Sherwood presumably knows him well as a player. Could it be that Sherwood has had some input? Oi Den!
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8:20pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

BBC wilts said this evening on the 5.30 sports that Smith signed yesterday evening for a reported 200k which is obviously split into down payment and then appearance payments etc. Looks a great talent and its reported there were 10 clubs after him and I believe one of those clubs to be the POX oh dear what a shame lets hope it was ha ha. Nice again no having to rely on loan players and signing players for the future and the future is STFC.
BBC wilts said this evening on the 5.30 sports that Smith signed yesterday evening for a reported 200k which is obviously split into down payment and then appearance payments etc. Looks a great talent and its reported there were 10 clubs after him and I believe one of those clubs to be the POX oh dear what a shame lets hope it was ha ha. Nice again no having to rely on loan players and signing players for the future and the future is STFC. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 5

9:32pm Wed 22 Jan 14

akershaker says...

This morning the usual moaners were laying into the Adver for reporting this as hearsay and baseless gossip. Now it turns out to be true will they finally learn the lesson and refrain from make their own baseless insults until they hear some facts. I'm fed up of mindless abuse thrown about like gospel truth on here. Cheer up a bit.
This morning the usual moaners were laying into the Adver for reporting this as hearsay and baseless gossip. Now it turns out to be true will they finally learn the lesson and refrain from make their own baseless insults until they hear some facts. I'm fed up of mindless abuse thrown about like gospel truth on here. Cheer up a bit. akershaker
  • Score: 7

10:11pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Looks a decent prospect and 10 goals in 25 games is a very good strike rate even if it was in the league below. Had a quick look at the Charlton boards and many rated him higher than a young striker they have that is playing.

The Ranger reference from Mark I suspect are partly to do with the uncertaintity about his future freedom. On Troy, do you gamble on his fitness or get some games in at another club to cut your possible losses. Mark has said he needs another game which may be to test not just his fitness but the strength in his knee follow his op.

IMO it is probably wise to be cautious with Troy and not rush him back just because we can. Someone mentioned Barry Corr earlier, I feel we rushed him on occasions and the result was a prolonged injury problem.

COYMR
Looks a decent prospect and 10 goals in 25 games is a very good strike rate even if it was in the league below. Had a quick look at the Charlton boards and many rated him higher than a young striker they have that is playing. The Ranger reference from Mark I suspect are partly to do with the uncertaintity about his future freedom. On Troy, do you gamble on his fitness or get some games in at another club to cut your possible losses. Mark has said he needs another game which may be to test not just his fitness but the strength in his knee follow his op. IMO it is probably wise to be cautious with Troy and not rush him back just because we can. Someone mentioned Barry Corr earlier, I feel we rushed him on occasions and the result was a prolonged injury problem. COYMR Oxon-Red
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10:22pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

akershaker wrote:
This morning the usual moaners were laying into the Adver for reporting this as hearsay and baseless gossip. Now it turns out to be true will they finally learn the lesson and refrain from make their own baseless insults until they hear some facts. I'm fed up of mindless abuse thrown about like gospel truth on here. Cheer up a bit.
Don't read the posts then - I stand by my comments -18 and all lol! It's a forum me old china views will differ - get over it!
[quote][p][bold]akershaker[/bold] wrote: This morning the usual moaners were laying into the Adver for reporting this as hearsay and baseless gossip. Now it turns out to be true will they finally learn the lesson and refrain from make their own baseless insults until they hear some facts. I'm fed up of mindless abuse thrown about like gospel truth on here. Cheer up a bit.[/p][/quote]Don't read the posts then - I stand by my comments -18 and all lol! It's a forum me old china views will differ - get over it! The Jockster
  • Score: -2

11:12pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

harley red wrote:
LeGod wrote:
Well its on the bbc site now hes signing no mention of fee though and is 200k really correct.
I would imagine we have a couple lined up to go out as well and hopefully some of the dead wood.
He's 6,4 this bloke which is what we need abit of height and definelty need a no nonsense takes no prisoners centre back ie a shaun taylor type player - will we get one - who knows. We are too nicey nicey at the back and must be great to play against. When you look at the way we played when we had Hoddle and Ardilles running the team we had some tough players and some good ball players at the moment we have good ball players but no steel anywhere in the side and that is what we need and especially needed when we are away from home.
And the good players aren't as good as they think as they are no better than the league the tar in at the moment , apart from Ranger who could do really well if he got his act together .
As good as they think they are or as good as you think they are ?

Your opinion but I suspect managers at other clubs will decide how good they are in the long term.
[quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Well its on the bbc site now hes signing no mention of fee though and is 200k really correct. I would imagine we have a couple lined up to go out as well and hopefully some of the dead wood. He's 6,4 this bloke which is what we need abit of height and definelty need a no nonsense takes no prisoners centre back ie a shaun taylor type player - will we get one - who knows. We are too nicey nicey at the back and must be great to play against. When you look at the way we played when we had Hoddle and Ardilles running the team we had some tough players and some good ball players at the moment we have good ball players but no steel anywhere in the side and that is what we need and especially needed when we are away from home.[/p][/quote]And the good players aren't as good as they think as they are no better than the league the tar in at the moment , apart from Ranger who could do really well if he got his act together .[/p][/quote]As good as they think they are or as good as you think they are ? Your opinion but I suspect managers at other clubs will decide how good they are in the long term. Oxon-Red
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