SWINDON TOWN: JPT selection headache for Cooper

Swindon Town manager Mark Cooper

Swindon Town manager Mark Cooper

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SWINDON Town manager Mark Cooper faces a major selection headache when his side visit Peterborough United tonight, with injuries, suspension, ineligibility and competition rules combining to leave the Robins boss in an unenviable position.

Cooper will be without the suspended duo of Alex Pritchard and Troy Archibald-Henville, Ryan Mason is missing due to an abdominal strain, Michael Smith and Jamie Reckord are both cup-tied and Jay McEveley is still recovering from a knee problem.

Having taken all of that into account, Cooper must also contend with the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy ruling which dictates that he must select either at least six of the XI who started the game against Oldham Athletic on Saturday or six of the players who have played 75 per cent or more of Town’s league games this term.

Massimo Luongo, who was withdrawn at the weekend due to a tight hamstring, is expected to start, while Yaser Kasim is set to return after being rested for the visit of the Latics - but Cooper said he had yet to decide who to play in goal.

Tyrell Belford has featured in each of Swindon’s three JPT games to date this term but Wes Foderingham could be drafted in to satisfy the competition’s guidelines.

Cooper told the Advertiser: “It’s tricky, there are probably one or two who would have played who might not now because we have to have six of last Saturday’s starting XI or six players who have played 75 per cent of the league games this season. We have to do it one way or another.

“He (Kasim) is one booking away from a two-game suspension. He’s played nearly every minute - the same as Mass - so we decided to rest Yaser with (tonight) in mind.

“Yes people, and I understand, will say the league is important but in my opinion I picked a team that should have got a result on Saturday.”

Of Mason, Cooper said: “I thought it was just an impact injury but it’s an abdominal strain or a side strain and I’m not sure how long he’s going to be.”

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6:12am Wed 5 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it.
You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning.
YOU could always blame the ref after
You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it. You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning. YOU could always blame the ref after smirg kcab
  • Score: -56

6:23am Wed 5 Feb 14

ThisIsGary says...

I'm sure if we don't win Cooper will blame one of the following

A) The ref
B) the youth ness of the squad
C) the players
D) the conditions
E) Nile Ranger

It will not however be Coopers fault what so ever
I'm sure if we don't win Cooper will blame one of the following A) The ref B) the youth ness of the squad C) the players D) the conditions E) Nile Ranger It will not however be Coopers fault what so ever ThisIsGary
  • Score: -50

6:50am Wed 5 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

Yawn
Yawn Graham8181
  • Score: -36

7:10am Wed 5 Feb 14

Since 1950 says...

If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.
If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope. Since 1950
  • Score: 4

7:41am Wed 5 Feb 14

stranglers says...

Since 1950 wrote:
If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.
Cooper off I hope!!!
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.[/p][/quote]Cooper off I hope!!! stranglers
  • Score: -38

7:46am Wed 5 Feb 14

We are PANTS says...

smirg kcab wrote:
You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it.
You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning.
YOU could always blame the ref after
Kettle, black!!! All you EVER do is moan!!! Give it a rest for gods sake....

As for the football, as long as we can stay within a goal of them we have a great chance of going to Wembley....


COYR'ssssssssss
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it. You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning. YOU could always blame the ref after[/p][/quote]Kettle, black!!! All you EVER do is moan!!! Give it a rest for gods sake.... As for the football, as long as we can stay within a goal of them we have a great chance of going to Wembley.... COYR'ssssssssss We are PANTS
  • Score: 37

7:54am Wed 5 Feb 14

california andy says...

At this rate Mason's career will be over before it starts. He has talent, but is a total sick note. He falls over and is out indefinitely, and this is not a one-off. Very disappointing.
At this rate Mason's career will be over before it starts. He has talent, but is a total sick note. He falls over and is out indefinitely, and this is not a one-off. Very disappointing. california andy
  • Score: 17

8:00am Wed 5 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is.
I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose.
Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.
So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is. I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose. Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer. The Jockster
  • Score: -28

8:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

chrystovski says...

Let's get rid of Cooper and bring in Sir Alex Ferguson I'm sure he's looking to get back into management, or maybe Jose is fed up with dizzy heights of Chelsea and is looking for a new challenge.

COOPER OUT!!!

And whilst we are at it get rid of that Smith he's only scored 3 in 3...useless!!!
Let's get rid of Cooper and bring in Sir Alex Ferguson I'm sure he's looking to get back into management, or maybe Jose is fed up with dizzy heights of Chelsea and is looking for a new challenge. COOPER OUT!!! And whilst we are at it get rid of that Smith he's only scored 3 in 3...useless!!! chrystovski
  • Score: 20

8:23am Wed 5 Feb 14

old town robin says...

See Chesterfield won their first leg away to Fleetwood 3-1. A Wembley return match against them anyone. Two disallowed goals for Fleetwood, so they won't be too happy, but I would think the Steirites will be odds on to get to the final.

Back to Coopers team selection if the game is on tonight, surely he knows what the rules are with regards having to play 6 from last game or next game, Unless it's a bit of kidology, I don't see why he is getting this in as an excuse before we've even travelled to Posh. (Did they leave last night? somehow doubt it. I hope Ferguson doesn't read our forum, because we don't want Cooper to use Sam's article as an excuse again.

I think Cooper will play one up front with a 4-4-1-1 line up. A bit harsh on Belford, but I have no doubts Wes will start in goal, back 4 will be N Thompson, Branco, Ward, McEverley, (if he really isn't fit then Byrne or Alex Smith). across the middle Kasim, Luango, Hartley L Thompson. I would prefer to see Dany N'Gueussen in the whole rather than Barker if he's eligible and Nile up front, so where is Coopers headache with that 11. Bench could be a little thin for strikers, Belford, Barcham Gladwin, Storey Barker? Byrne or Smith or both if Jay does start..

7 of them started against Oldham, so he doesn't have a problem at all, maybe not our best 11, but certainly one that could keep it tight and give ourselves a chance for the return leg.

COYR
See Chesterfield won their first leg away to Fleetwood 3-1. A Wembley return match against them anyone. Two disallowed goals for Fleetwood, so they won't be too happy, but I would think the Steirites will be odds on to get to the final. Back to Coopers team selection if the game is on tonight, surely he knows what the rules are with regards having to play 6 from last game or next game, Unless it's a bit of kidology, I don't see why he is getting this in as an excuse before we've even travelled to Posh. (Did they leave last night? somehow doubt it. I hope Ferguson doesn't read our forum, because we don't want Cooper to use Sam's article as an excuse again. I think Cooper will play one up front with a 4-4-1-1 line up. A bit harsh on Belford, but I have no doubts Wes will start in goal, back 4 will be N Thompson, Branco, Ward, McEverley, (if he really isn't fit then Byrne or Alex Smith). across the middle Kasim, Luango, Hartley L Thompson. I would prefer to see Dany N'Gueussen in the whole rather than Barker if he's eligible and Nile up front, so where is Coopers headache with that 11. Bench could be a little thin for strikers, Belford, Barcham Gladwin, Storey Barker? Byrne or Smith or both if Jay does start.. 7 of them started against Oldham, so he doesn't have a problem at all, maybe not our best 11, but certainly one that could keep it tight and give ourselves a chance for the return leg. COYR old town robin
  • Score: 15

8:26am Wed 5 Feb 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Jockster I always want us to win every game no matter who's its against. More so tonight as I've backed us to win it.

Hope we get stuck in and manage a draw tonight....

COYR
Jockster I always want us to win every game no matter who's its against. More so tonight as I've backed us to win it. Hope we get stuck in and manage a draw tonight.... COYR dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: 18

8:38am Wed 5 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Jockster I always want us to win every game no matter who's its against. More so tonight as I've backed us to win it.

Hope we get stuck in and manage a draw tonight....

COYR
Dreamo I also want us to win every game, every game that matters like those ones that get us into the play offs or save us from relegation !

Good luck with your wager I think I'd sooner put my money on Red Rum to win a fourth Grand National lol! :)
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Jockster I always want us to win every game no matter who's its against. More so tonight as I've backed us to win it. Hope we get stuck in and manage a draw tonight.... COYR[/p][/quote]Dreamo I also want us to win every game, every game that matters like those ones that get us into the play offs or save us from relegation ! Good luck with your wager I think I'd sooner put my money on Red Rum to win a fourth Grand National lol! :) The Jockster
  • Score: -13

9:01am Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

smirg kcab wrote:
You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it.
You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning.
YOU could always blame the ref after
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzz
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it. You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning. YOU could always blame the ref after[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz bearwoodred
  • Score: 7

9:01am Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

ThisIsGary wrote:
I'm sure if we don't win Cooper will blame one of the following

A) The ref
B) the youth ness of the squad
C) the players
D) the conditions
E) Nile Ranger

It will not however be Coopers fault what so ever
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]ThisIsGary[/bold] wrote: I'm sure if we don't win Cooper will blame one of the following A) The ref B) the youth ness of the squad C) the players D) the conditions E) Nile Ranger It will not however be Coopers fault what so ever[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz bearwoodred
  • Score: 9

9:03am Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

stranglers wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.
Cooper off I hope!!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.[/p][/quote]Cooper off I hope!!![/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzz bearwoodred
  • Score: 6

9:06am Wed 5 Feb 14

stfccrew says...

Morning all,

Mr C; Maybe these gale force winds have brought you back to reality and contributed towards your 'JPT SELECTION HEADACHE..'.

You should've put as much thought into the Oldham game as you have for tonight's JPT fixture, our league position is easily as important. So, now you've got TOO MANY player options for tonight's game (if it goes ahead..eek!)...? MC; Your decision making is about as good as mine...NOT VERY GOOD!

Anyway, Up & Onwards.... COYR!!
Morning all, Mr C; Maybe these gale force winds have brought you back to reality and contributed towards your 'JPT SELECTION HEADACHE..'. You should've put as much thought into the Oldham game as you have for tonight's JPT fixture, our league position is easily as important. So, now you've got TOO MANY player options for tonight's game (if it goes ahead..eek!)...? MC; Your decision making is about as good as mine...NOT VERY GOOD! Anyway, Up & Onwards.... COYR!! stfccrew
  • Score: -8

9:08am Wed 5 Feb 14

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

I'm being told by someone at work that the game is live on Sky tonight. I have seen nothing at all to suggest that it is. Does anyone know out there?
I'm being told by someone at work that the game is live on Sky tonight. I have seen nothing at all to suggest that it is. Does anyone know out there? The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier
  • Score: 3

9:10am Wed 5 Feb 14

London Red says...

Exactly OTR - our best XI would meet both 6 from Sat and 75% rule (also it doesn't have to be 6 from Oldham but can be 6 to start at Port Vale!)
.
Belford as Cup Keeper - if not Wes Oldham and 75% - Port Vale
.
N.Thompson Oldham and 75% - Port Vale
Ward Oldham and 75% - Port Vale
Branco Oldham
McEveley if fit (Port Vale ) if not A.Smith
.
L.Thompson Oldham - Port Vale
Luongo Oldham and 75% - Port Vale
Kasim 75% - Port Vale
.
N'Guessan
Ranger 75% - Port Vale
Byrne Oldham and 75% - Port Vale
.
Most appearances overall would simply see Wes play, Byrne replace Jay at LB with Prichard coming in at LM, Mason in for Louis and Hall in for Branco - so pretty much our starting XI of this season!
Exactly OTR - our best XI would meet both 6 from Sat and 75% rule (also it doesn't have to be 6 from Oldham but can be 6 to start at Port Vale!) . Belford as Cup Keeper - if not Wes Oldham and 75% - Port Vale . N.Thompson Oldham and 75% - Port Vale Ward Oldham and 75% - Port Vale Branco Oldham McEveley if fit (Port Vale ) if not A.Smith . L.Thompson Oldham - Port Vale Luongo Oldham and 75% - Port Vale Kasim 75% - Port Vale . N'Guessan Ranger 75% - Port Vale Byrne Oldham and 75% - Port Vale . Most appearances overall would simply see Wes play, Byrne replace Jay at LB with Prichard coming in at LM, Mason in for Louis and Hall in for Branco - so pretty much our starting XI of this season! London Red
  • Score: -4

9:11am Wed 5 Feb 14

London Red says...

Yep game live on Sky - plenty of links on the OS promoting it including watch first leg in legends article
Yep game live on Sky - plenty of links on the OS promoting it including watch first leg in legends article London Red
  • Score: 3

9:15am Wed 5 Feb 14

LeGod says...

Pritchard cant play he's suspended so he cant play London Red.
Pritchard cant play he's suspended so he cant play London Red. LeGod
  • Score: 1

9:15am Wed 5 Feb 14

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier says...

Thanks LR.

Look at the official site! There's an idea!
Thanks LR. Look at the official site! There's an idea! The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier
  • Score: 0

9:32am Wed 5 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

ThisIsGary wrote:
I'm sure if we don't win Cooper will blame one of the following

A) The ref
B) the youth ness of the squad
C) the players
D) the conditions
E) Nile Ranger

It will not however be Coopers fault what so ever
I suspect we know who you will blame.
[quote][p][bold]ThisIsGary[/bold] wrote: I'm sure if we don't win Cooper will blame one of the following A) The ref B) the youth ness of the squad C) the players D) the conditions E) Nile Ranger It will not however be Coopers fault what so ever[/p][/quote]I suspect we know who you will blame. Oxon-Red
  • Score: 5

9:44am Wed 5 Feb 14

Fernham Red says...

Hmmm... That leaves us with the following squad (20):

Tyrell,
Nathan, Ward, Branco, Barthram,
Louis, Kasim, Harley, Luongo, Byrne
Ranger

Wes, Gladwin, Cox, Smith, Agombar, Reis, Miles, Dany, Barker,

A big game required from our midfield today to protect the back four and support Nile. I hope Ben gets another run out today at some point......of the others both Dany and Miles offer something off the bench .....could tonight also be the chance for Tijane to set the world alight?

A tough game tonight in terrible conditions: "may the odds be ever in our favour"
Hmmm... That leaves us with the following squad (20): Tyrell, Nathan, Ward, Branco, Barthram, Louis, Kasim, Harley, Luongo, Byrne Ranger Wes, Gladwin, Cox, Smith, Agombar, Reis, Miles, Dany, Barker, A big game required from our midfield today to protect the back four and support Nile. I hope Ben gets another run out today at some point......of the others both Dany and Miles offer something off the bench .....could tonight also be the chance for Tijane to set the world alight? A tough game tonight in terrible conditions: "may the odds be ever in our favour" Fernham Red
  • Score: 4

9:47am Wed 5 Feb 14

the don69 says...

The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).
The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky). the don69
  • Score: 1

9:57am Wed 5 Feb 14

stfcflag says...

It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...
It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on... stfcflag
  • Score: 9

9:58am Wed 5 Feb 14

London Red says...

I know LeGod - thats why he is not in the team - N'Guessan is
.
The point was that team is still pretty much our "starting XI" as they have the most appearances - with the exception of the Spurs lads who have more than Jay, Louis and N'Guessan
.
So if they were available it only needs those 3 changes to become the team that has most appearances (4 if he goes continues with Bulford in the JPT)
.
So why is Cooper complaining - looks pretty stong to me!
.
Fernham - Agombar has a broken leg so isn't available
I know LeGod - thats why he is not in the team - N'Guessan is . The point was that team is still pretty much our "starting XI" as they have the most appearances - with the exception of the Spurs lads who have more than Jay, Louis and N'Guessan . So if they were available it only needs those 3 changes to become the team that has most appearances (4 if he goes continues with Bulford in the JPT) . So why is Cooper complaining - looks pretty stong to me! . Fernham - Agombar has a broken leg so isn't available London Red
  • Score: 1

10:18am Wed 5 Feb 14

LionelHutz says...

Why on Earth is he even thinking about playing Belford in goal? Yes the JPT early rounds are a bit of a chore and can be used to blood fringe players, but when it gets to this stage it's a very big deal for the clubs involved - trips to Wembley don't happen all that often for clubs like us.

Nothing against Belford, he's looked good when deputising, but Wes is our first choice and should play tonight.
Why on Earth is he even thinking about playing Belford in goal? Yes the JPT early rounds are a bit of a chore and can be used to blood fringe players, but when it gets to this stage it's a very big deal for the clubs involved - trips to Wembley don't happen all that often for clubs like us. Nothing against Belford, he's looked good when deputising, but Wes is our first choice and should play tonight. LionelHutz
  • Score: 10

10:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

Fernham Red says...

Thanks London, I was beginning to think Agombar was an 'Urban Myth' or at least the invisible man - I must have missed the news on him, explains a lot.

I agree with you on your team selection btw (I'd have Jack in ahead of a returning Smith though) It's what I'd love to see but I can't see MC starting with both Dany and Nile. I suspect we will go with caution with a midfield triangle of Thompson, Harley and Kasim with Luongo and Byrne tucked into the sides.

Will be interesting to see how Posh fare without Tomlin. He had the lion's share of their assists this season and was so pivotal in the playmaker role. P'boro must be balancing the books by putting both Barnett and Tomlin out on loan, it makes no footballing sense at all. I see the remaining danger men as Assombalonga (obviously) and Rowe who's also chipped in with a couple of goals in the last few matches.

Oddly enough, I fancy our chances tonight.
Thanks London, I was beginning to think Agombar was an 'Urban Myth' or at least the invisible man - I must have missed the news on him, explains a lot. I agree with you on your team selection btw (I'd have Jack in ahead of a returning Smith though) It's what I'd love to see but I can't see MC starting with both Dany and Nile. I suspect we will go with caution with a midfield triangle of Thompson, Harley and Kasim with Luongo and Byrne tucked into the sides. Will be interesting to see how Posh fare without Tomlin. He had the lion's share of their assists this season and was so pivotal in the playmaker role. P'boro must be balancing the books by putting both Barnett and Tomlin out on loan, it makes no footballing sense at all. I see the remaining danger men as Assombalonga (obviously) and Rowe who's also chipped in with a couple of goals in the last few matches. Oddly enough, I fancy our chances tonight. Fernham Red
  • Score: 4

10:35am Wed 5 Feb 14

Robinonfire says...

Cooper is a Non League manager out of his depth......when will Power see this.
Cooper is a Non League manager out of his depth......when will Power see this. Robinonfire
  • Score: -15

10:49am Wed 5 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

bearwoodred wrote:
stranglers wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.
Cooper off I hope!!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
you've been watching cooper to much, wake ip
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: If the rain continues the game might be off with any luck. If not it'll be a very heavy ground which won't suit our game. Game off I hope.[/p][/quote]Cooper off I hope!!![/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]you've been watching cooper to much, wake ip Graham8181
  • Score: -10

10:54am Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

I expect a lot of minus's for this post but did any of you hear Coopers interview on the radio today ?
He said he wasn't happy with some performances on Saturday, that's understandable because we wer'nt either.
The reporter then asked him if he had told these certain players he wasn't happy, Cooper replied "No ,they should know if they're not trying hard enough"
Well I can see his point but the fact of life is that some people DO need to be told otherwise the go around thinking they've done brilliantly.
Many footballers aren't the sharpest of tools so they need leadership, if the manager doesn't tell them his thoughts then they are none the wiser.
This manager and some of his players have their heads buried deep in the sand, so while they are bent over they need a good kick up the ar5e
I expect a lot of minus's for this post but did any of you hear Coopers interview on the radio today ? He said he wasn't happy with some performances on Saturday, that's understandable because we wer'nt either. The reporter then asked him if he had told these certain players he wasn't happy, Cooper replied "No ,they should know if they're not trying hard enough" Well I can see his point but the fact of life is that some people DO need to be told otherwise the go around thinking they've done brilliantly. Many footballers aren't the sharpest of tools so they need leadership, if the manager doesn't tell them his thoughts then they are none the wiser. This manager and some of his players have their heads buried deep in the sand, so while they are bent over they need a good kick up the ar5e Stilloyal
  • Score: 14

10:58am Wed 5 Feb 14

old town robin says...

stfcflag wrote:
It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...
You might be right than Cooper has a tiny budget, but you cannot say he has a thin squad, ours is as big as most clubs in this division and there are some teams hardly have enough to field a full bench. It might get depleted a bit with injuries and suspensions, but alot of that could be avoided with a bit more discipline in the team. Something like 40 yellows and at least 3 reds that I can remember is a pretty poor record.
[quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...[/p][/quote]You might be right than Cooper has a tiny budget, but you cannot say he has a thin squad, ours is as big as most clubs in this division and there are some teams hardly have enough to field a full bench. It might get depleted a bit with injuries and suspensions, but alot of that could be avoided with a bit more discipline in the team. Something like 40 yellows and at least 3 reds that I can remember is a pretty poor record. old town robin
  • Score: 3

11:13am Wed 5 Feb 14

stfcflag says...

old town robin wrote:
stfcflag wrote:
It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...
You might be right than Cooper has a tiny budget, but you cannot say he has a thin squad, ours is as big as most clubs in this division and there are some teams hardly have enough to field a full bench. It might get depleted a bit with injuries and suspensions, but alot of that could be avoided with a bit more discipline in the team. Something like 40 yellows and at least 3 reds that I can remember is a pretty poor record.
Agreed, discipline wise we're doing awfully. In terms of squad we have a lot of kids in there but you're right we do have a fair few to choose from. My point was more that there are different expectations on the team, and both feel very strongly. In terms of squad my concern is that we don't have any out and out wingers (pritchard the only possible exception but he runs with the ball rather than crossing) which probably account for how narrowly we play our football and the fact that you can count the number of crosses in most home games on 1 hand. A shame in my book but everyone has their own view
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...[/p][/quote]You might be right than Cooper has a tiny budget, but you cannot say he has a thin squad, ours is as big as most clubs in this division and there are some teams hardly have enough to field a full bench. It might get depleted a bit with injuries and suspensions, but alot of that could be avoided with a bit more discipline in the team. Something like 40 yellows and at least 3 reds that I can remember is a pretty poor record.[/p][/quote]Agreed, discipline wise we're doing awfully. In terms of squad we have a lot of kids in there but you're right we do have a fair few to choose from. My point was more that there are different expectations on the team, and both feel very strongly. In terms of squad my concern is that we don't have any out and out wingers (pritchard the only possible exception but he runs with the ball rather than crossing) which probably account for how narrowly we play our football and the fact that you can count the number of crosses in most home games on 1 hand. A shame in my book but everyone has their own view stfcflag
  • Score: 2

11:22am Wed 5 Feb 14

hertz says...

Anyone watch Fulham last night , remind you of any other team ? Swansea the other team trying to play tikky takky football but going nowhere sacked their manager , for Fulham it might be too late, Swansea might be in time to do something aout it . watch and learn Mr Cooper
Anyone watch Fulham last night , remind you of any other team ? Swansea the other team trying to play tikky takky football but going nowhere sacked their manager , for Fulham it might be too late, Swansea might be in time to do something aout it . watch and learn Mr Cooper hertz
  • Score: 5

11:27am Wed 5 Feb 14

stranglers says...

Stilloyal wrote:
I expect a lot of minus's for this post but did any of you hear Coopers interview on the radio today ?
He said he wasn't happy with some performances on Saturday, that's understandable because we wer'nt either.
The reporter then asked him if he had told these certain players he wasn't happy, Cooper replied "No ,they should know if they're not trying hard enough"
Well I can see his point but the fact of life is that some people DO need to be told otherwise the go around thinking they've done brilliantly.
Many footballers aren't the sharpest of tools so they need leadership, if the manager doesn't tell them his thoughts then they are none the wiser.
This manager and some of his players have their heads buried deep in the sand, so while they are bent over they need a good kick up the ar5e
No minus from me stilloyal, you are spot on. In my experience what ever type of person you are the vast majority of people if not all of them what to be managed, yes you manage different people in different ways but we all (at times) need to be loved, encouraged, bo**ocked, shouted at etc. Which you choose and the timing of it, and to who is the art of good man/women management.

Good post stilloyal.
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: I expect a lot of minus's for this post but did any of you hear Coopers interview on the radio today ? He said he wasn't happy with some performances on Saturday, that's understandable because we wer'nt either. The reporter then asked him if he had told these certain players he wasn't happy, Cooper replied "No ,they should know if they're not trying hard enough" Well I can see his point but the fact of life is that some people DO need to be told otherwise the go around thinking they've done brilliantly. Many footballers aren't the sharpest of tools so they need leadership, if the manager doesn't tell them his thoughts then they are none the wiser. This manager and some of his players have their heads buried deep in the sand, so while they are bent over they need a good kick up the ar5e[/p][/quote]No minus from me stilloyal, you are spot on. In my experience what ever type of person you are the vast majority of people if not all of them what to be managed, yes you manage different people in different ways but we all (at times) need to be loved, encouraged, bo**ocked, shouted at etc. Which you choose and the timing of it, and to who is the art of good man/women management. Good post stilloyal. stranglers
  • Score: 5

11:33am Wed 5 Feb 14

cookiebwoi says...

anyone know what time the pitch inspection is ? Only cus i dont want to get there and it be off !!!!!!!!!!!
anyone know what time the pitch inspection is ? Only cus i dont want to get there and it be off !!!!!!!!!!! cookiebwoi
  • Score: 1

11:35am Wed 5 Feb 14

themoonraker says...

california andy wrote:
At this rate Mason's career will be over before it starts. He has talent, but is a total sick note. He falls over and is out indefinitely, and this is not a one-off. Very disappointing.
.............Darren Anderton without the talent!
[quote][p][bold]california andy[/bold] wrote: At this rate Mason's career will be over before it starts. He has talent, but is a total sick note. He falls over and is out indefinitely, and this is not a one-off. Very disappointing.[/p][/quote].............Darren Anderton without the talent! themoonraker
  • Score: 1

11:38am Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

stranglers wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
I expect a lot of minus's for this post but did any of you hear Coopers interview on the radio today ?
He said he wasn't happy with some performances on Saturday, that's understandable because we wer'nt either.
The reporter then asked him if he had told these certain players he wasn't happy, Cooper replied "No ,they should know if they're not trying hard enough"
Well I can see his point but the fact of life is that some people DO need to be told otherwise the go around thinking they've done brilliantly.
Many footballers aren't the sharpest of tools so they need leadership, if the manager doesn't tell them his thoughts then they are none the wiser.
This manager and some of his players have their heads buried deep in the sand, so while they are bent over they need a good kick up the ar5e
No minus from me stilloyal, you are spot on. In my experience what ever type of person you are the vast majority of people if not all of them what to be managed, yes you manage different people in different ways but we all (at times) need to be loved, encouraged, bo**ocked, shouted at etc. Which you choose and the timing of it, and to who is the art of good man/women management.

Good post stilloyal.
Cheers buddy, good response from you also and you are quite right. I've been a senior manager and ran my own business too , you only get the best from people if they know what to do and if what they do is correct and appreciated.
If they're not doing it right then teach and encourage them, a bottle of champagne or a size ten as appropriate :-).
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: I expect a lot of minus's for this post but did any of you hear Coopers interview on the radio today ? He said he wasn't happy with some performances on Saturday, that's understandable because we wer'nt either. The reporter then asked him if he had told these certain players he wasn't happy, Cooper replied "No ,they should know if they're not trying hard enough" Well I can see his point but the fact of life is that some people DO need to be told otherwise the go around thinking they've done brilliantly. Many footballers aren't the sharpest of tools so they need leadership, if the manager doesn't tell them his thoughts then they are none the wiser. This manager and some of his players have their heads buried deep in the sand, so while they are bent over they need a good kick up the ar5e[/p][/quote]No minus from me stilloyal, you are spot on. In my experience what ever type of person you are the vast majority of people if not all of them what to be managed, yes you manage different people in different ways but we all (at times) need to be loved, encouraged, bo**ocked, shouted at etc. Which you choose and the timing of it, and to who is the art of good man/women management. Good post stilloyal.[/p][/quote]Cheers buddy, good response from you also and you are quite right. I've been a senior manager and ran my own business too , you only get the best from people if they know what to do and if what they do is correct and appreciated. If they're not doing it right then teach and encourage them, a bottle of champagne or a size ten as appropriate :-). Stilloyal
  • Score: 3

11:44am Wed 5 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

the don69 wrote:
The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).
You'd think they'd protect the pitch by hiring one of those inflatable sheets that Cardiff used recently where the rain is allowed to fall on it and then a couple of hours before the game it's blown up and the rain runs off to the sides and ends of the pitch. You'd even think Sky would pay for it to ensure coverage and a repeat unwanted return visit for their crews.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).[/p][/quote]You'd think they'd protect the pitch by hiring one of those inflatable sheets that Cardiff used recently where the rain is allowed to fall on it and then a couple of hours before the game it's blown up and the rain runs off to the sides and ends of the pitch. You'd even think Sky would pay for it to ensure coverage and a repeat unwanted return visit for their crews. The Jockster
  • Score: -3

11:49am Wed 5 Feb 14

lifelong red says...

The Jockster wrote:
So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is.
I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose.
Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.
Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is. I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose. Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.[/p][/quote]Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

11:49am Wed 5 Feb 14

lifelong red says...

The Jockster wrote:
So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is.
I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose.
Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.
Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is. I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose. Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.[/p][/quote]Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

11:53am Wed 5 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team. The Jockster
  • Score: -2

11:55am Wed 5 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Cooper is a Non League manager out of his depth......when will Power see this.
Yes but he's cheap so LP won't see it!
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Cooper is a Non League manager out of his depth......when will Power see this.[/p][/quote]Yes but he's cheap so LP won't see it! The Jockster
  • Score: -2

11:56am Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

hertz wrote:
Anyone watch Fulham last night , remind you of any other team ? Swansea the other team trying to play tikky takky football but going nowhere sacked their manager , for Fulham it might be too late, Swansea might be in time to do something aout it . watch and learn Mr Cooper
actually trying to play football, keep possession and move the ball around is awful thing to do??? Shame on a manager trying to play football and build as a team!!! Let's give it to the back four and hoof it over the midfield to Ranger and let hiim deal with it!! Great idea, great football - a pleasure to watch!!! The really funny thing is if we do play the hoof ball a la Flint etc. then WE WILL STILL make the errors that lead to the goals that really we should have not conceded. Those errors will go as the team bond and players get better and more confident - FACT. As mentioned above the only change Coops needs is a bit more posibtivity going forward a bit quickler than we do and some width/crosses but with Reis back that may come or some more work on Pritch.

Swansea are suffering from a lack of a good strike force in that Michu etc have been out. Last year everyone was singing the praises of their sytle funny that! Fulham just lack depth- someone has to struggle in the Prem.

Cannot understand that we have one really bad game and a bit of a dip in form and everyone is running around like the end of the world is nigh! It was not long ago we were playing great against Coventry etc. It happens, the team will come back strong soon and we can all smile again.

Get off Coopers back and give him some support - all the grief is doing my head in. He is our manager he is doing okay and we are growing and developing as a club - you should be proud and get behind your team.

Plus it's BORING.
[quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Anyone watch Fulham last night , remind you of any other team ? Swansea the other team trying to play tikky takky football but going nowhere sacked their manager , for Fulham it might be too late, Swansea might be in time to do something aout it . watch and learn Mr Cooper[/p][/quote]actually trying to play football, keep possession and move the ball around is awful thing to do??? Shame on a manager trying to play football and build as a team!!! Let's give it to the back four and hoof it over the midfield to Ranger and let hiim deal with it!! Great idea, great football - a pleasure to watch!!! The really funny thing is if we do play the hoof ball a la Flint etc. then WE WILL STILL make the errors that lead to the goals that really we should have not conceded. Those errors will go as the team bond and players get better and more confident - FACT. As mentioned above the only change Coops needs is a bit more posibtivity going forward a bit quickler than we do and some width/crosses but with Reis back that may come or some more work on Pritch. Swansea are suffering from a lack of a good strike force in that Michu etc have been out. Last year everyone was singing the praises of their sytle funny that! Fulham just lack depth- someone has to struggle in the Prem. Cannot understand that we have one really bad game and a bit of a dip in form and everyone is running around like the end of the world is nigh! It was not long ago we were playing great against Coventry etc. It happens, the team will come back strong soon and we can all smile again. Get off Coopers back and give him some support - all the grief is doing my head in. He is our manager he is doing okay and we are growing and developing as a club - you should be proud and get behind your team. Plus it's BORING. bearwoodred
  • Score: 3

11:59am Wed 5 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

lifelong red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is.
I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose.
Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.
Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one.
Lifelong - trust me I won't, play off final certainly and league/FA cup if we ever were lucky enough to make it because all those mean something. What league are we in if we win? The same one as if we lose, Chesterfield last time was bad enough when I was cajoled into going, and that's not going to happen again.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is. I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose. Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.[/p][/quote]Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one.[/p][/quote]Lifelong - trust me I won't, play off final certainly and league/FA cup if we ever were lucky enough to make it because all those mean something. What league are we in if we win? The same one as if we lose, Chesterfield last time was bad enough when I was cajoled into going, and that's not going to happen again. The Jockster
  • Score: -9

12:03pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

The Jockster wrote:
Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B.

In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger. Stilloyal
  • Score: -4

12:03pm Wed 5 Feb 14

the don69 says...

The Jockster wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).
You'd think they'd protect the pitch by hiring one of those inflatable sheets that Cardiff used recently where the rain is allowed to fall on it and then a couple of hours before the game it's blown up and the rain runs off to the sides and ends of the pitch. You'd even think Sky would pay for it to ensure coverage and a repeat unwanted return visit for their crews.
Makes sense to me Jock, I'm told it's going to p1ss down in Peterborough from about 3.00pm,they'll probably call it off about 7.00pm,when all the fans have arrived LOL!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).[/p][/quote]You'd think they'd protect the pitch by hiring one of those inflatable sheets that Cardiff used recently where the rain is allowed to fall on it and then a couple of hours before the game it's blown up and the rain runs off to the sides and ends of the pitch. You'd even think Sky would pay for it to ensure coverage and a repeat unwanted return visit for their crews.[/p][/quote]Makes sense to me Jock, I'm told it's going to p1ss down in Peterborough from about 3.00pm,they'll probably call it off about 7.00pm,when all the fans have arrived LOL!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: -1

12:08pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

the don69 wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).
You'd think they'd protect the pitch by hiring one of those inflatable sheets that Cardiff used recently where the rain is allowed to fall on it and then a couple of hours before the game it's blown up and the rain runs off to the sides and ends of the pitch. You'd even think Sky would pay for it to ensure coverage and a repeat unwanted return visit for their crews.
Makes sense to me Jock, I'm told it's going to p1ss down in Peterborough from about 3.00pm,they'll probably call it off about 7.00pm,when all the fans have arrived LOL!!!!!!!!!
15 minutes before K.O ?More likely to be 5 mins during the warm up :-)
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The game will either be called off or played in a bog! heavy rain forecast in Peterborough all day and their having a pitch inspection,if off there hoping to play it next week(depending on Sky).[/p][/quote]You'd think they'd protect the pitch by hiring one of those inflatable sheets that Cardiff used recently where the rain is allowed to fall on it and then a couple of hours before the game it's blown up and the rain runs off to the sides and ends of the pitch. You'd even think Sky would pay for it to ensure coverage and a repeat unwanted return visit for their crews.[/p][/quote]Makes sense to me Jock, I'm told it's going to p1ss down in Peterborough from about 3.00pm,they'll probably call it off about 7.00pm,when all the fans have arrived LOL!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]15 minutes before K.O ?More likely to be 5 mins during the warm up :-) Stilloyal
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Wed 5 Feb 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!!

Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing.

I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.
Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!! Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing. I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans. dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!!

Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing.

I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.
Dreamo, don't tell anyone but I'm only size 8
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!! Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing. I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.[/p][/quote]Dreamo, don't tell anyone but I'm only size 8 Stilloyal
  • Score: 0

12:14pm Wed 5 Feb 14

grove red says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!!

Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing.

I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.
Tomlin has left and gone on loan to middlesbough on transfer deadline day. will be very surprised if games on its lashing down in wantage and heading that way.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!! Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing. I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.[/p][/quote]Tomlin has left and gone on loan to middlesbough on transfer deadline day. will be very surprised if games on its lashing down in wantage and heading that way. grove red
  • Score: 0

12:15pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

Stilloyal wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B.

In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.
Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B?

Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault.

We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.[/p][/quote]Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B? Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault. We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site? bearwoodred
  • Score: 3

12:19pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
stfcflag wrote:
It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...
You might be right than Cooper has a tiny budget, but you cannot say he has a thin squad, ours is as big as most clubs in this division and there are some teams hardly have enough to field a full bench. It might get depleted a bit with injuries and suspensions, but alot of that could be avoided with a bit more discipline in the team. Something like 40 yellows and at least 3 reds that I can remember is a pretty poor record.
OTR, yes we have a big squad. But that doesn't mean we have a good one. We have a lot of players who are barely good enough to play League football at all.

I'll watch the game on TV tonight with curiosity but no excitement. It's a p0xy competition that hardly anyone has ever been really interested in. You can tell that by the attendances. Play the final at Wembley and suddenly thousands of people think it's important. If we must continue to have this competition, it should have the final it deserves - 2 legs home and away. But I'd rather it was scrapped altogether.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...[/p][/quote]You might be right than Cooper has a tiny budget, but you cannot say he has a thin squad, ours is as big as most clubs in this division and there are some teams hardly have enough to field a full bench. It might get depleted a bit with injuries and suspensions, but alot of that could be avoided with a bit more discipline in the team. Something like 40 yellows and at least 3 reds that I can remember is a pretty poor record.[/p][/quote]OTR, yes we have a big squad. But that doesn't mean we have a good one. We have a lot of players who are barely good enough to play League football at all. I'll watch the game on TV tonight with curiosity but no excitement. It's a p0xy competition that hardly anyone has ever been really interested in. You can tell that by the attendances. Play the final at Wembley and suddenly thousands of people think it's important. If we must continue to have this competition, it should have the final it deserves - 2 legs home and away. But I'd rather it was scrapped altogether. Oi Den!
  • Score: -7

12:26pm Wed 5 Feb 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Grove red, totally missed that and totally delighted by it! Thank you.

Still Loyal you obviously kick hard with your size 8.

Den I agree with you on the JPT other than it gives clubs to a chance to get a bit more revenue in which helps with budgeting and then hopefully getting better players (?!)....... A run in the FA Cup would have been helpful.........

COYR
Grove red, totally missed that and totally delighted by it! Thank you. Still Loyal you obviously kick hard with your size 8. Den I agree with you on the JPT other than it gives clubs to a chance to get a bit more revenue in which helps with budgeting and then hopefully getting better players (?!)....... A run in the FA Cup would have been helpful......... COYR dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: 1

12:28pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following:

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved:
Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe?

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good:
Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do!

I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".
This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following: Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved: Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe? Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good: Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do! I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply". bearwoodred
  • Score: 11

12:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

bearwoodred wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B.

In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.
Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B?

Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault.

We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?
PDC 's plan was o play attacking footie with passion although we wer'nt discussing him so why has he popped into the chat ?
We may be eighth at present but have you not noticed we are losing points and allowing the teams below to gain on us. I think that we will be nearer a bottom 8 than top 8 come May .I sincerely hope I'm wrong
Cooper is gambling the whole season one JPT success..

Now I'm off for lunch !
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.[/p][/quote]Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B? Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault. We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?[/p][/quote]PDC 's plan was o play attacking footie with passion although we wer'nt discussing him so why has he popped into the chat ? We may be eighth at present but have you not noticed we are losing points and allowing the teams below to gain on us. I think that we will be nearer a bottom 8 than top 8 come May .I sincerely hope I'm wrong Cooper is gambling the whole season one JPT success.. Now I'm off for lunch ! Stilloyal
  • Score: 2

12:40pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bearwoodred says...

Stilloyal wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B.

In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.
Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B?

Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault.

We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?
PDC 's plan was o play attacking footie with passion although we wer'nt discussing him so why has he popped into the chat ?
We may be eighth at present but have you not noticed we are losing points and allowing the teams below to gain on us. I think that we will be nearer a bottom 8 than top 8 come May .I sincerely hope I'm wrong
Cooper is gambling the whole season one JPT success..

Now I'm off for lunch !
Not what I asked was it? My point is clearly that there was no Plan B under PdC and you cannot specify what Cooper needs as a plan B? The passion is clearly still there and to say otherwise is nonsense and unfair to level at the current squad. The thing is at least players are no longer in fear of humiliation and being left in the football wilderness.

We have had a dip in form - it happens. So did Pererboriough, MK Dons, Wolves a bit, Walsall not long ago and many others. It happens but not long ago we beat Cov and Posh etc. I am not that sure teams are gaining on us but deep down we ALL knew that teams above us would go further ahead - it happens. But we should look at some of those teams from last year and see where we can emulate that! I think we will but there is work going on now to do that.

Coopers not a bad manager at all. I think he has exceeded where we all expected to be and despite what some people think at times are football (alright mostly at home) has been great. He biggest concern has to be the away form which is a worry, but a lot of clubs are like that (Man Cityfor one until January!!!)
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.[/p][/quote]Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B? Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault. We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?[/p][/quote]PDC 's plan was o play attacking footie with passion although we wer'nt discussing him so why has he popped into the chat ? We may be eighth at present but have you not noticed we are losing points and allowing the teams below to gain on us. I think that we will be nearer a bottom 8 than top 8 come May .I sincerely hope I'm wrong Cooper is gambling the whole season one JPT success.. Now I'm off for lunch ![/p][/quote]Not what I asked was it? My point is clearly that there was no Plan B under PdC and you cannot specify what Cooper needs as a plan B? The passion is clearly still there and to say otherwise is nonsense and unfair to level at the current squad. The thing is at least players are no longer in fear of humiliation and being left in the football wilderness. We have had a dip in form - it happens. So did Pererboriough, MK Dons, Wolves a bit, Walsall not long ago and many others. It happens but not long ago we beat Cov and Posh etc. I am not that sure teams are gaining on us but deep down we ALL knew that teams above us would go further ahead - it happens. But we should look at some of those teams from last year and see where we can emulate that! I think we will but there is work going on now to do that. Coopers not a bad manager at all. I think he has exceeded where we all expected to be and despite what some people think at times are football (alright mostly at home) has been great. He biggest concern has to be the away form which is a worry, but a lot of clubs are like that (Man Cityfor one until January!!!) bearwoodred
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier wrote:
I'm being told by someone at work that the game is live on Sky tonight. I have seen nothing at all to suggest that it is. Does anyone know out there?
yep on sky tonight sweet just seen on my television app
[quote][p][bold]The artist formerly known as Marmite Soldier[/bold] wrote: I'm being told by someone at work that the game is live on Sky tonight. I have seen nothing at all to suggest that it is. Does anyone know out there?[/p][/quote]yep on sky tonight sweet just seen on my television app Graham8181
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

Stilloyal wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!!

Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing.

I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.
Dreamo, don't tell anyone but I'm only size 8
Alright Al, i will lend you a pair of my 12s if you need em :O)
Not getting my hopes up that tonights game will be on after seeing the state of the pitch last week, i was tempted to wet a line it had that much water on it, it was nearly as wet as your hip flask...
,
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Still Loyal always had you down as at least a size 12 man!! Delighted Tomlin's suspended, he's far and away their best player. Hopefully he gets another red before the 2nd leg. Can't believe the game will be on which will be disappointing. I always hope Louis T is in the side as he gives us some urgency. Still maintain his ball retention and passing skills are under rated by the majority of Town fans.[/p][/quote]Dreamo, don't tell anyone but I'm only size 8[/p][/quote]Alright Al, i will lend you a pair of my 12s if you need em :O) Not getting my hopes up that tonights game will be on after seeing the state of the pitch last week, i was tempted to wet a line it had that much water on it, it was nearly as wet as your hip flask... , Steve. Brentford
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

bearwoodred wrote:
This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following:

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved:
Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe?

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good:
Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do!

I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".
don't forget to mention the shoddy away form and terrible tactics, dropping crucial players when they are needed most, not addressing our shocking defensive line when needed most.... bla bla bla
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following: Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved: Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe? Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good: Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do! I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".[/p][/quote]don't forget to mention the shoddy away form and terrible tactics, dropping crucial players when they are needed most, not addressing our shocking defensive line when needed most.... bla bla bla Graham8181
  • Score: -5

12:50pm Wed 5 Feb 14

lifelong red says...

bearwoodred wrote:
This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following:

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved:
Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe?

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good:
Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do!

I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".
I liked that- nice one - ha ha .
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following: Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved: Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe? Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good: Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do! I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".[/p][/quote]I liked that- nice one - ha ha . lifelong red
  • Score: 0

12:56pm Wed 5 Feb 14

harley red says...

stfcflag wrote:
It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...
We'll said we all have opinions and that is what football is about but a lot of people on here slag you off if you are not in a possative mood about cooper and his merry men (boys) .
[quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: It's not nice to see how divided the boards are these days. It's one extreme or the other with very anti or very pro messages. The truth being it's probably somewhere in the middle. Cooper has a tiny budget and thin squad and given the budget we wouldn't expect much more than mid table this year. Equally the style of play is far from entertaining flowing football and whilst the ethos is good the end result is often frustrating and poor. I've rarely enjoyed the football so little in 25 years of going. In short I like Cooper as a man, I don't personally like his style of 4-3-3 or more often 4-5-1 football but I think his signing of Smith was fantastic and just wish he'd go at teams more at home. Regardless of how my views change on the manager and some of the players I'll always support the team and be there week in week out singing. As I guess will most of the pro and con posters on here, we all support the same team just with different views of what's going on...[/p][/quote]We'll said we all have opinions and that is what football is about but a lot of people on here slag you off if you are not in a possative mood about cooper and his merry men (boys) . harley red
  • Score: -5

1:14pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Vintage Trouble says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Cooper is a Non League manager out of his depth......when will Power see this.
Powers January sale, everyone must go!

Oh wait...
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Cooper is a Non League manager out of his depth......when will Power see this.[/p][/quote]Powers January sale, everyone must go! Oh wait... Vintage Trouble
  • Score: 0

3:48pm Wed 5 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

We are PANTS wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it.
You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning.
YOU could always blame the ref after
Kettle, black!!! All you EVER do is moan!!! Give it a rest for gods sake....

As for the football, as long as we can stay within a goal of them we have a great chance of going to Wembley....


COYR'ssssssssss
Perhaps a comment on swindon , if you can put a sentence together?
[quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: You picked a side that should have got a result, YOU DIDN'T get it. You was HAPPY with the squad on transfer dead line day get on with it then stop moaning. YOU could always blame the ref after[/p][/quote]Kettle, black!!! All you EVER do is moan!!! Give it a rest for gods sake.... As for the football, as long as we can stay within a goal of them we have a great chance of going to Wembley.... COYR'ssssssssss[/p][/quote]Perhaps a comment on swindon , if you can put a sentence together? smirg kcab
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4:31pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

Another thing that baffles me about this: Kasim gets "rested" on Saturday for tonight's game and yet Sam suggests we will only play Foderingham tonight if forced to by the rules of the competition. Isn't there a bit of a contradiction here? Is this game important or isn't it?
Another thing that baffles me about this: Kasim gets "rested" on Saturday for tonight's game and yet Sam suggests we will only play Foderingham tonight if forced to by the rules of the competition. Isn't there a bit of a contradiction here? Is this game important or isn't it? Oi Den!
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4:57pm Wed 5 Feb 14

alchafreds says...

Graham8181 wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following:

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved:
Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe?

Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good:
Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do!

I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".
don't forget to mention the shoddy away form and terrible tactics, dropping crucial players when they are needed most, not addressing our shocking defensive line when needed most.... bla bla bla
wont mention that cos the truth hurts some..
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: This constant attakc on Cooper is embarrassing and unfounded. But lets look at the following: Teams who have sacked their manager recently and improved: Derby defo! Stoke City, Crystal Palace and Sunderland / Spurs maybe? Teams who have sacked their manager recently and are still not looking good: Carlisle, Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Torquay, Gillingham, Middlesboroguh, Crawley, Notts County, Millwall, Pompey, Barnsley, Fulham, Shef Weds and Wigan maybe. I am going to add West Brom to that last living where I do! I can see ithe BBC headline now - "Swindon who are 8th in the league and in the area final of the JPT southern section have sacked their manager. The official explaination given in a statement by the club read "several of our on-line fans were unhappy with our performance against Oldham, the fact we are trying to play passing football and contructive criticism from Smirg, Stranglers, Still Loyal and Hertz left us with no choice". "Interviews for the next manager for them to berate will be held next week but we don't expect any of them to apply".[/p][/quote]don't forget to mention the shoddy away form and terrible tactics, dropping crucial players when they are needed most, not addressing our shocking defensive line when needed most.... bla bla bla[/p][/quote]wont mention that cos the truth hurts some.. alchafreds
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4:59pm Wed 5 Feb 14

dazzastfc says...

chrystovski wrote:
Let's get rid of Cooper and bring in Sir Alex Ferguson I'm sure he's looking to get back into management, or maybe Jose is fed up with dizzy heights of Chelsea and is looking for a new challenge.

COOPER OUT!!!

And whilst we are at it get rid of that Smith he's only scored 3 in 3...useless!!!
WHAT A PLANK
[quote][p][bold]chrystovski[/bold] wrote: Let's get rid of Cooper and bring in Sir Alex Ferguson I'm sure he's looking to get back into management, or maybe Jose is fed up with dizzy heights of Chelsea and is looking for a new challenge. COOPER OUT!!! And whilst we are at it get rid of that Smith he's only scored 3 in 3...useless!!![/p][/quote]WHAT A PLANK dazzastfc
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6:19pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

Stilloyal wrote:
The Jockster wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.
Loyal, Mangers are where Jesus was born :-0

Sorry, couldn't resist !

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.[/p][/quote]Loyal, Mangers are where Jesus was born :-0 Sorry, couldn't resist ! COYMR Oxon-Red
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7:58pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

bearwoodred wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.
Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B.

In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.
Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B?

Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault.

We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?
PDC 's plan was o play attacking footie with passion although we wer'nt discussing him so why has he popped into the chat ?
We may be eighth at present but have you not noticed we are losing points and allowing the teams below to gain on us. I think that we will be nearer a bottom 8 than top 8 come May .I sincerely hope I'm wrong
Cooper is gambling the whole season one JPT success..

Now I'm off for lunch !
Not what I asked was it? My point is clearly that there was no Plan B under PdC and you cannot specify what Cooper needs as a plan B? The passion is clearly still there and to say otherwise is nonsense and unfair to level at the current squad. The thing is at least players are no longer in fear of humiliation and being left in the football wilderness.

We have had a dip in form - it happens. So did Pererboriough, MK Dons, Wolves a bit, Walsall not long ago and many others. It happens but not long ago we beat Cov and Posh etc. I am not that sure teams are gaining on us but deep down we ALL knew that teams above us would go further ahead - it happens. But we should look at some of those teams from last year and see where we can emulate that! I think we will but there is work going on now to do that.

Coopers not a bad manager at all. I think he has exceeded where we all expected to be and despite what some people think at times are football (alright mostly at home) has been great. He biggest concern has to be the away form which is a worry, but a lot of clubs are like that (Man Cityfor one until January!!!)
Look , if Cooper says some are not playing with passion who are we mere mortals to argue..
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Loyal & others, don't you think this is where Cooper is weak? Shouldn't he be letting the players themselves know that he's not a happy bunny rather than just telling the media he's not. Can you imagine the likes of Cloughie, Fergie, Shanks, etc not letting them know in very ripe syllables as to what they thought of their performances? And I've not even mentioned Pdc who as someone else said recently would have smashed both dugouts and hauled off half the team.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts , Cooper is not a manger, mangers manage and he's not doing that. Cooper just pick team , there doesn't seem to be a an A let alone a plan B. In my opinion he worst person in charge of our players since Ken Beamish, neither can be labelled a manger.[/p][/quote]Still Loyal just so that I know can you tell me what PdC's Plan B was? Apart from buying overpriced poor players when we lost! Seriously give me an example of any Plan B? Cooper has tried a range of other options but still cannot account for Hall not picking up a moving striker from a set piece. Again basic errors pretty much our downfall not his fault. We are 8th have at times played so great football this season - admittedly that has dropped a bit in the last few games, although I thought at times against Walsall it was coming back. What does everyone want this year? Top two finish with us steamrollering everyone in site?[/p][/quote]PDC 's plan was o play attacking footie with passion although we wer'nt discussing him so why has he popped into the chat ? We may be eighth at present but have you not noticed we are losing points and allowing the teams below to gain on us. I think that we will be nearer a bottom 8 than top 8 come May .I sincerely hope I'm wrong Cooper is gambling the whole season one JPT success.. Now I'm off for lunch ![/p][/quote]Not what I asked was it? My point is clearly that there was no Plan B under PdC and you cannot specify what Cooper needs as a plan B? The passion is clearly still there and to say otherwise is nonsense and unfair to level at the current squad. The thing is at least players are no longer in fear of humiliation and being left in the football wilderness. We have had a dip in form - it happens. So did Pererboriough, MK Dons, Wolves a bit, Walsall not long ago and many others. It happens but not long ago we beat Cov and Posh etc. I am not that sure teams are gaining on us but deep down we ALL knew that teams above us would go further ahead - it happens. But we should look at some of those teams from last year and see where we can emulate that! I think we will but there is work going on now to do that. Coopers not a bad manager at all. I think he has exceeded where we all expected to be and despite what some people think at times are football (alright mostly at home) has been great. He biggest concern has to be the away form which is a worry, but a lot of clubs are like that (Man Cityfor one until January!!!)[/p][/quote]Look , if Cooper says some are not playing with passion who are we mere mortals to argue.. Stilloyal
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10:00pm Wed 5 Feb 14

harley red says...

2-2 good result wish we could play on more boggy pitches as it did not sound that there was much tippy tippy s.!T . Just good old fashion give it all football . Sounded that dany had a great game why do we won't to get rid ? Let's finish them off at the county ground , it's good money for the club ,as you all seem to think that we need money !!
2-2 good result wish we could play on more boggy pitches as it did not sound that there was much tippy tippy s.!T . Just good old fashion give it all football . Sounded that dany had a great game why do we won't to get rid ? Let's finish them off at the county ground , it's good money for the club ,as you all seem to think that we need money !! harley red
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1:53pm Thu 6 Feb 14

cricklade red says...

The Jockster wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is.
I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose.
Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.
Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one.
Lifelong - trust me I won't, play off final certainly and league/FA cup if we ever were lucky enough to make it because all those mean something. What league are we in if we win? The same one as if we lose, Chesterfield last time was bad enough when I was cajoled into going, and that's not going to happen again.
Well your loss then .COYR
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: So after the dross served up on Saturday that we had to endure Cooper is required to play at least six of the players that provided that debacle. Just goes to show what a meaningless, non-prestigious competition this is. I frankly don't care whether the game is on, off, or whether we win or lose. Certainly glad I didn't put my name down to go and if they get to Wembley I won't be going there to pay rip off prices for tickets, junk food and warm beer.[/p][/quote]Jockster - your the " Swindon till I die type " - what Swindon at Wembley and you wont be there - yeh right - pull the other one.[/p][/quote]Lifelong - trust me I won't, play off final certainly and league/FA cup if we ever were lucky enough to make it because all those mean something. What league are we in if we win? The same one as if we lose, Chesterfield last time was bad enough when I was cajoled into going, and that's not going to happen again.[/p][/quote]Well your loss then .COYR cricklade red
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