Swindon Town set to open Ranger talks

Swindon Town striker Nile Ranger

Swindon Town striker Nile Ranger

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SWINDON Town’s management team will sit down with Nile Ranger this weekend to discuss the striker’s future.

Ranger, who was acquitted of rape charges by a jury at Newcastle Crown Court on Tuesday, has been ruled out for the rest of the season with a hamstring tear and will see his current contact at the County Ground expire this summer.

Town have the option to extend his time in Wiltshire by a further year should they so wish but Cooper revealed that he and owner Lee Power are not going to jump at the chance without considering all the potential ramifications.

The process of deciding whether or not to retain Ranger’s services, therefore, will begin in earnest when the forward returns from the north east this weekend and the club have the chance to meet with him and his representatives.

Cooper said: “We have to have a meeting with Nile and myself and Lee at the weekend and we’ll sit down and see where we go.

“The pace he sprinted at out of the dock the other day, he might be fit for Saturday. I wish I could run that fast.

“We don’t know what the end of the season is going to hold and what position we’re going to be in. We have to make sure our recruitment is spot on and every player we bring in is correct for the football club.

Having stuck by Ranger despite the striker missing several training sessions over the course of the past eight months, some might suggest it would be odd for Swindon not to extend the frontman’s deal and capitalise on either his talents or his potential resale value.

Cooper, however, intimated that keeping Ranger might not be in the best interests of his squad in the long run.

“I think there are a lot of factors you have to consider the whole group when it comes to Nile and the disruption it can cause,” he said. “There are a lot of factors and we need to sit down with Nile and find out what he wants to do and where his head is.

“I don’t think the playing side has ever been in doubt. The playing side is not the problem. If it was purely football that would have been done by now, he’s the best striker in the league I think.”

Minus the burden of an impending trial, Ranger may well have been a big asset to Town in the final 12 games of the League One campaign – not that Cooper was tempted to delve into the striker’s complicated psyche, instead suggesting that job should be left for psychics and, bizarrely, Russian leaders.

He said: “How do I judge Nile Ranger’s mental state? It’s not for a football manager to talk about his mental state. It needs to be a clairvoyant maybe, somebody like that, a spiritual healer, Putin? Someone like that. Not me.

“I think he’s the best number nine in the league so you’d be foolish to say he wouldn’t (have made a difference) but we’re not going to have that luxury.”

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6:38am Sat 8 Mar 14

Townend80 says...

SIGN HIM UP ! Ranger has a point to prove now
SIGN HIM UP ! Ranger has a point to prove now Townend80
  • Score: 37

7:34am Sat 8 Mar 14

the wizard says...

I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with. the wizard
  • Score: 17

7:51am Sat 8 Mar 14

We are PANTS says...

the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Spot on Wiz.... I think reading between the lines Cooper really doesn't like Nile (as a person). Therefore, we could see some interesting developments if Power decides to keep him... For what it's worth I think we should... He has fantastic talent and will be pivotal to any promotion push next term!!!!

COYR'sssssssssss
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Spot on Wiz.... I think reading between the lines Cooper really doesn't like Nile (as a person). Therefore, we could see some interesting developments if Power decides to keep him... For what it's worth I think we should... He has fantastic talent and will be pivotal to any promotion push next term!!!! COYR'sssssssssss We are PANTS
  • Score: 13

7:53am Sat 8 Mar 14

oo-r-ya? says...

the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Totally agree. Cooper clearly only wants faceless "yes" men in his dressing room with no personalities. You cannot have an original match-winner on the pitch without the same character traits being there off the field. Moulding a team from differing backgrounds is what management is all about. After all we've been through a period of major turmoil with him already.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Cooper clearly only wants faceless "yes" men in his dressing room with no personalities. You cannot have an original match-winner on the pitch without the same character traits being there off the field. Moulding a team from differing backgrounds is what management is all about. After all we've been through a period of major turmoil with him already. oo-r-ya?
  • Score: 6

8:18am Sat 8 Mar 14

Swindon Crier says...

I know lets have a go at Cooper for everything he does yeah that's a good idea
I know lets have a go at Cooper for everything he does yeah that's a good idea Swindon Crier
  • Score: 15

8:22am Sat 8 Mar 14

umpcah says...

We are PANTS wrote:
the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Spot on Wiz.... I think reading between the lines Cooper really doesn't like Nile (as a person). Therefore, we could see some interesting developments if Power decides to keep him... For what it's worth I think we should... He has fantastic talent and will be pivotal to any promotion push next term!!!!

COYR'sssssssssss
I don't think many Town fans do like Nile as a person ! However sales of season tickets will probably soar if he signs up for another season at the CG ! Managing a footie team through inevitable ups and downs requires expertise and Coops wont relish the tantrums of known misfits ! Interesting developments ahead !
[quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Spot on Wiz.... I think reading between the lines Cooper really doesn't like Nile (as a person). Therefore, we could see some interesting developments if Power decides to keep him... For what it's worth I think we should... He has fantastic talent and will be pivotal to any promotion push next term!!!! COYR'sssssssssss[/p][/quote]I don't think many Town fans do like Nile as a person ! However sales of season tickets will probably soar if he signs up for another season at the CG ! Managing a footie team through inevitable ups and downs requires expertise and Coops wont relish the tantrums of known misfits ! Interesting developments ahead ! umpcah
  • Score: 8

8:31am Sat 8 Mar 14

Chish and Fips says...

oo-r-ya? wrote:
the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Totally agree. Cooper clearly only wants faceless "yes" men in his dressing room with no personalities. You cannot have an original match-winner on the pitch without the same character traits being there off the field. Moulding a team from differing backgrounds is what management is all about. After all we've been through a period of major turmoil with him already.
Whilst you jump at the chance to have another 'pop' you should consider the problems an individual can cause in this dressing room if the' tail starts to wag the dog' as they say..
Whilst Nile is good on the pitch he would appear or allegedly to be arrogant and from what we have seen a bit disrespectful.
So to use your words that 'moulding' can be very tricky and for the sake of keeping a good player on the pitch you could lose the dressing room.
Perhaps bringing out in the open may not be PC, but could be outlining the situation.
[quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Cooper clearly only wants faceless "yes" men in his dressing room with no personalities. You cannot have an original match-winner on the pitch without the same character traits being there off the field. Moulding a team from differing backgrounds is what management is all about. After all we've been through a period of major turmoil with him already.[/p][/quote]Whilst you jump at the chance to have another 'pop' you should consider the problems an individual can cause in this dressing room if the' tail starts to wag the dog' as they say.. Whilst Nile is good on the pitch he would appear or allegedly to be arrogant and from what we have seen a bit disrespectful. So to use your words that 'moulding' can be very tricky and for the sake of keeping a good player on the pitch you could lose the dressing room. Perhaps bringing out in the open may not be PC, but could be outlining the situation. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 5

8:35am Sat 8 Mar 14

newburymike says...

Everyone moans when mark gives bland answers, but this time he has told it as it is & we all know it's right, but everyone still moans. He hasn't said he doesn't want him, just that everything has to be taken into account. Good management I would say. & yes I do want Nile to stay.
Everyone moans when mark gives bland answers, but this time he has told it as it is & we all know it's right, but everyone still moans. He hasn't said he doesn't want him, just that everything has to be taken into account. Good management I would say. & yes I do want Nile to stay. newburymike
  • Score: 14

8:42am Sat 8 Mar 14

old town robin says...

the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Totally agree with Wiz and Pants, what kind of comments is that to make to the press just before they're due to sit down to discuss the lads future.

Quote "Cooper, however, intimated that keeping Ranger might not be in the best interests of his squad in the long run". and then to rant on about his mental state is something that would have been best kept to himself. If I was Nile's agent I would be asking Cooper to explain himself, because going by this interview, he obviously isn't bothered about having him here next season.

Well out of order!!!!!!!!

Cooper also intimated he wants his recruitment in the summer to be spot on, well if he thinks his signings of Barker, Smith and Gladwin is being spot on I dread to think what level of quality he is going to sign next. From what I've seen so far these lads are nowhere near good enough to hold down a regular place. In there defence Barker and Gladwin have both been played out of their best position by Cooper, so maybe a little harsh to judge them on their performances to date. Hope they improve and Cooper did actually get it right, but it's hard to see at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Wiz and Pants, what kind of comments is that to make to the press just before they're due to sit down to discuss the lads future. Quote "Cooper, however, intimated that keeping Ranger might not be in the best interests of his squad in the long run". and then to rant on about his mental state is something that would have been best kept to himself. If I was Nile's agent I would be asking Cooper to explain himself, because going by this interview, he obviously isn't bothered about having him here next season. Well out of order!!!!!!!! Cooper also intimated he wants his recruitment in the summer to be spot on, well if he thinks his signings of Barker, Smith and Gladwin is being spot on I dread to think what level of quality he is going to sign next. From what I've seen so far these lads are nowhere near good enough to hold down a regular place. In there defence Barker and Gladwin have both been played out of their best position by Cooper, so maybe a little harsh to judge them on their performances to date. Hope they improve and Cooper did actually get it right, but it's hard to see at the moment. old town robin
  • Score: 6

8:47am Sat 8 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress.

Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper
Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress. Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper smirg kcab
  • Score: 16

8:49am Sat 8 Mar 14

umpcah says...

old town robin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Totally agree with Wiz and Pants, what kind of comments is that to make to the press just before they're due to sit down to discuss the lads future.

Quote "Cooper, however, intimated that keeping Ranger might not be in the best interests of his squad in the long run". and then to rant on about his mental state is something that would have been best kept to himself. If I was Nile's agent I would be asking Cooper to explain himself, because going by this interview, he obviously isn't bothered about having him here next season.

Well out of order!!!!!!!!

Cooper also intimated he wants his recruitment in the summer to be spot on, well if he thinks his signings of Barker, Smith and Gladwin is being spot on I dread to think what level of quality he is going to sign next. From what I've seen so far these lads are nowhere near good enough to hold down a regular place. In there defence Barker and Gladwin have both been played out of their best position by Cooper, so maybe a little harsh to judge them on their performances to date. Hope they improve and Cooper did actually get it right, but it's hard to see at the moment.
and then to rant on about his mental state is something that would have been best kept to himself. Surely he dodged the question and not ranted on ?
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Wiz and Pants, what kind of comments is that to make to the press just before they're due to sit down to discuss the lads future. Quote "Cooper, however, intimated that keeping Ranger might not be in the best interests of his squad in the long run". and then to rant on about his mental state is something that would have been best kept to himself. If I was Nile's agent I would be asking Cooper to explain himself, because going by this interview, he obviously isn't bothered about having him here next season. Well out of order!!!!!!!! Cooper also intimated he wants his recruitment in the summer to be spot on, well if he thinks his signings of Barker, Smith and Gladwin is being spot on I dread to think what level of quality he is going to sign next. From what I've seen so far these lads are nowhere near good enough to hold down a regular place. In there defence Barker and Gladwin have both been played out of their best position by Cooper, so maybe a little harsh to judge them on their performances to date. Hope they improve and Cooper did actually get it right, but it's hard to see at the moment.[/p][/quote]and then to rant on about his mental state is something that would have been best kept to himself. Surely he dodged the question and not ranted on ? umpcah
  • Score: 3

8:52am Sat 8 Mar 14

Chish and Fips says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress.

Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper
Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o)

Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o(
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress. Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper[/p][/quote]Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o) Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o( Chish and Fips
  • Score: 2

8:56am Sat 8 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

Cooper contradicts himself because on that Friday phone in I'm sure he said people would be very surprised to know it was him that drove the efforts to keep Ranger back in Jan.

Not very helpful comments now, I dont see how that is constructive or helpful in any way at all.

I think Ranger may already be aware that his behaviour could be better, but I do t think much has happened recently to warrant another public bashing.
Cooper contradicts himself because on that Friday phone in I'm sure he said people would be very surprised to know it was him that drove the efforts to keep Ranger back in Jan. Not very helpful comments now, I dont see how that is constructive or helpful in any way at all. I think Ranger may already be aware that his behaviour could be better, but I do t think much has happened recently to warrant another public bashing. Wilesy
  • Score: 11

9:06am Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Completely disagree Wiz. We all know that Cooper is simply recognising the reality of the situation. It would be easy for us to bury our heads in the sand and decide what we want to happen with Ranger based purely on his football ability. Our responsibility is limited to paying our money and watching the team play for 90 minutes. The manager has to prepare the team for games, make sure the squad is united and happy etc. Cooper and Power have got to try to assess whether Ranger wants to be a proper professional footballer. If he does want to do that then signing him up would be a great advantage to the club. If he doesn't it could be a contractual millstone around our necks as well as causing more disruption in the club - and that would hardly be "sustainable", would it? It's a difficult decision the club faces. I'm glad they're being open about it, especially as I have taken stick on here for saying exactly what Cooper has said.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Completely disagree Wiz. We all know that Cooper is simply recognising the reality of the situation. It would be easy for us to bury our heads in the sand and decide what we want to happen with Ranger based purely on his football ability. Our responsibility is limited to paying our money and watching the team play for 90 minutes. The manager has to prepare the team for games, make sure the squad is united and happy etc. Cooper and Power have got to try to assess whether Ranger wants to be a proper professional footballer. If he does want to do that then signing him up would be a great advantage to the club. If he doesn't it could be a contractual millstone around our necks as well as causing more disruption in the club - and that would hardly be "sustainable", would it? It's a difficult decision the club faces. I'm glad they're being open about it, especially as I have taken stick on here for saying exactly what Cooper has said. Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

9:10am Sat 8 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress.

Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper
Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o)

Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o(
Like him as a man, gave him a very good chance, thought he was going down the right path to be a success, shame it hasn't worked out for him.
He has kept us in the division, but we are talking next season now, and I wonder how many fans would rather have ranger here than cooper?
He don't wave now as he don't win. I would renew my s/t now if ranger was signed but I know it won't be unveiled untill after the 10% discount.
Kevin Phillips will wave I'm sure lol
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress. Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper[/p][/quote]Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o) Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o([/p][/quote]Like him as a man, gave him a very good chance, thought he was going down the right path to be a success, shame it hasn't worked out for him. He has kept us in the division, but we are talking next season now, and I wonder how many fans would rather have ranger here than cooper? He don't wave now as he don't win. I would renew my s/t now if ranger was signed but I know it won't be unveiled untill after the 10% discount. Kevin Phillips will wave I'm sure lol smirg kcab
  • Score: 5

9:11am Sat 8 Mar 14

LionelHutz says...

the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Di Canio used to regularly criticise people in public but because he did it in an Italian accent, no one seemed to mind.

I like Cooper's style when talking about Nile. He says it how it is. I prefer it that way rather than, say, Danny Wilson, who used to talk for ten minutes but not actually say anything.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Di Canio used to regularly criticise people in public but because he did it in an Italian accent, no one seemed to mind. I like Cooper's style when talking about Nile. He says it how it is. I prefer it that way rather than, say, Danny Wilson, who used to talk for ten minutes but not actually say anything. LionelHutz
  • Score: 20

9:12am Sat 8 Mar 14

mike1990 says...

No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?
No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice? mike1990
  • Score: 13

9:14am Sat 8 Mar 14

the wizard says...

Swindon Crier wrote:
I know lets have a go at Cooper for everything he does yeah that's a good idea
No, contrary to what you may think, management of players is just as much as what happens off field. Coming out with disparaging remarks about a player who without doubt has quality and is able to make things happen on field is as much of an own goal as you could score.
Ranger has baggage, even though the trial is over, but he also has enough nous to know that his skills have saved this club from a relegation battle.
Why come out with enough stuff hours before trying to secure his services for another season, and possible sell on at a profit, shear suicide.
Cooper does not have the skill to win friends and influence players, and that is one skill which we need. I seem to remember the players wanting Ranger to play despite his misdemeanors earlier in the season, because they know just how much extra dynamic he brings into this team and this club. With correct off field leadership we are looking at a player who has massive natural ability, we would be fools not to capitalize that and sell on at some future date.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon Crier[/bold] wrote: I know lets have a go at Cooper for everything he does yeah that's a good idea[/p][/quote]No, contrary to what you may think, management of players is just as much as what happens off field. Coming out with disparaging remarks about a player who without doubt has quality and is able to make things happen on field is as much of an own goal as you could score. Ranger has baggage, even though the trial is over, but he also has enough nous to know that his skills have saved this club from a relegation battle. Why come out with enough stuff hours before trying to secure his services for another season, and possible sell on at a profit, shear suicide. Cooper does not have the skill to win friends and influence players, and that is one skill which we need. I seem to remember the players wanting Ranger to play despite his misdemeanors earlier in the season, because they know just how much extra dynamic he brings into this team and this club. With correct off field leadership we are looking at a player who has massive natural ability, we would be fools not to capitalize that and sell on at some future date. the wizard
  • Score: 2

9:26am Sat 8 Mar 14

Robinonfire says...

Power will extend Rangers contract and then sell him off in the summer for a Million pounds plus.
Its a business now not a football club.
Power will extend Rangers contract and then sell him off in the summer for a Million pounds plus. Its a business now not a football club. Robinonfire
  • Score: 10

9:28am Sat 8 Mar 14

WirralRed says...

For one so bland in his usual interviews, talk of Ranger seems to touch a sensitive spot for Cooper & he seems to go off at a complete tangent..Similar to those strange comments he made over the Christmas period.. Is this Putin chap our new Russian oligarch?! Perhaps Russian troupes will be patrolling the exits in case anybody leaves before the end following more drab & below standard performances as of late...
For one so bland in his usual interviews, talk of Ranger seems to touch a sensitive spot for Cooper & he seems to go off at a complete tangent..Similar to those strange comments he made over the Christmas period.. Is this Putin chap our new Russian oligarch?! Perhaps Russian troupes will be patrolling the exits in case anybody leaves before the end following more drab & below standard performances as of late... WirralRed
  • Score: 3

9:28am Sat 8 Mar 14

umpcah says...

the wizard wrote:
Swindon Crier wrote:
I know lets have a go at Cooper for everything he does yeah that's a good idea
No, contrary to what you may think, management of players is just as much as what happens off field. Coming out with disparaging remarks about a player who without doubt has quality and is able to make things happen on field is as much of an own goal as you could score.
Ranger has baggage, even though the trial is over, but he also has enough nous to know that his skills have saved this club from a relegation battle.
Why come out with enough stuff hours before trying to secure his services for another season, and possible sell on at a profit, shear suicide.
Cooper does not have the skill to win friends and influence players, and that is one skill which we need. I seem to remember the players wanting Ranger to play despite his misdemeanors earlier in the season, because they know just how much extra dynamic he brings into this team and this club. With correct off field leadership we are looking at a player who has massive natural ability, we would be fools not to capitalize that and sell on at some future date.
There could easily be a " Him and Us " situation in the dressing room ! The contract , if offered to Nile , needs to be carefully worded !
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon Crier[/bold] wrote: I know lets have a go at Cooper for everything he does yeah that's a good idea[/p][/quote]No, contrary to what you may think, management of players is just as much as what happens off field. Coming out with disparaging remarks about a player who without doubt has quality and is able to make things happen on field is as much of an own goal as you could score. Ranger has baggage, even though the trial is over, but he also has enough nous to know that his skills have saved this club from a relegation battle. Why come out with enough stuff hours before trying to secure his services for another season, and possible sell on at a profit, shear suicide. Cooper does not have the skill to win friends and influence players, and that is one skill which we need. I seem to remember the players wanting Ranger to play despite his misdemeanors earlier in the season, because they know just how much extra dynamic he brings into this team and this club. With correct off field leadership we are looking at a player who has massive natural ability, we would be fools not to capitalize that and sell on at some future date.[/p][/quote]There could easily be a " Him and Us " situation in the dressing room ! The contract , if offered to Nile , needs to be carefully worded ! umpcah
  • Score: 3

9:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

Chish and Fips says...

mike1990 wrote:
No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?
Very strange ...when you ever post M1990 your plus's seem to jump within a minute to 10 or more ... hmmm !!! seems like a bit of insecurity shining through there...
[quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?[/p][/quote]Very strange ...when you ever post M1990 your plus's seem to jump within a minute to 10 or more ... hmmm !!! seems like a bit of insecurity shining through there... Chish and Fips
  • Score: 2

9:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

Old-Stager, Hilperton says...

Putin ? - What on earth is Mark talking about ?
Putin ? - What on earth is Mark talking about ? Old-Stager, Hilperton
  • Score: 3

9:45am Sat 8 Mar 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol
Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 1

9:49am Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble. Oi Den!
  • Score: -2

9:55am Sat 8 Mar 14

mike1990 says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
mike1990 wrote:
No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?
Very strange ...when you ever post M1990 your plus's seem to jump within a minute to 10 or more ... hmmm !!! seems like a bit of insecurity shining through there...
Seems your the one with insecurity Mr Fibs always worrying about the thumbs,i couldn't care less if I get 20 plus or minus grow up it's the children's button how old are you? Power it's a no brainer sign our best player the rest of our strike force can't score in a ? you know what.
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?[/p][/quote]Very strange ...when you ever post M1990 your plus's seem to jump within a minute to 10 or more ... hmmm !!! seems like a bit of insecurity shining through there...[/p][/quote]Seems your the one with insecurity Mr Fibs always worrying about the thumbs,i couldn't care less if I get 20 plus or minus grow up it's the children's button how old are you? Power it's a no brainer sign our best player the rest of our strike force can't score in a ? you know what. mike1990
  • Score: -1

9:58am Sat 8 Mar 14

bradley red 1 says...

With a bit of luck cooper will follow ranger out the door at the end of the season!
With a bit of luck cooper will follow ranger out the door at the end of the season! bradley red 1
  • Score: -10

10:00am Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol
Agree about the style of play - I could have nodded off at several games - but not about Cooper. The style is imposed from above. I don't see Cooper as arrogant at all. He gives straight answers to the questions put to him, often with a touch of dry humour. I still can't quite believe Cooper has got us to 7th place with a defence that's often resembled a circus and a midfield that often goes missing. Either he is working wonders or we are in a very poor division. - or both.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol[/p][/quote]Agree about the style of play - I could have nodded off at several games - but not about Cooper. The style is imposed from above. I don't see Cooper as arrogant at all. He gives straight answers to the questions put to him, often with a touch of dry humour. I still can't quite believe Cooper has got us to 7th place with a defence that's often resembled a circus and a midfield that often goes missing. Either he is working wonders or we are in a very poor division. - or both. Oi Den!
  • Score: 7

10:04am Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
In less than 10 minutes at least 4 people have disagreed with this comment but nobody has said why. I'd be really interested to know what they think is wrong about it.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]In less than 10 minutes at least 4 people have disagreed with this comment but nobody has said why. I'd be really interested to know what they think is wrong about it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

10:25am Sat 8 Mar 14

mike1990 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
In less than 10 minutes at least 4 people have disagreed with this comment but nobody has said why. I'd be really interested to know what they think is wrong about it.
I don't totally disagree with your post Oi Den and he has been a naughty boy in the past,but I think he deserves one last chance,he needs a father figure and guidance,we'd be signing him for nothing just his wages of course and if he behaves and does the business on the pitch,he'd be worth a huge fee.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]In less than 10 minutes at least 4 people have disagreed with this comment but nobody has said why. I'd be really interested to know what they think is wrong about it.[/p][/quote]I don't totally disagree with your post Oi Den and he has been a naughty boy in the past,but I think he deserves one last chance,he needs a father figure and guidance,we'd be signing him for nothing just his wages of course and if he behaves and does the business on the pitch,he'd be worth a huge fee. mike1990
  • Score: 2

10:28am Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

mike1990 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
In less than 10 minutes at least 4 people have disagreed with this comment but nobody has said why. I'd be really interested to know what they think is wrong about it.
I don't totally disagree with your post Oi Den and he has been a naughty boy in the past,but I think he deserves one last chance,he needs a father figure and guidance,we'd be signing him for nothing just his wages of course and if he behaves and does the business on the pitch,he'd be worth a huge fee.
Thanks Mike. I think we're agreed on that.
[quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]In less than 10 minutes at least 4 people have disagreed with this comment but nobody has said why. I'd be really interested to know what they think is wrong about it.[/p][/quote]I don't totally disagree with your post Oi Den and he has been a naughty boy in the past,but I think he deserves one last chance,he needs a father figure and guidance,we'd be signing him for nothing just his wages of course and if he behaves and does the business on the pitch,he'd be worth a huge fee.[/p][/quote]Thanks Mike. I think we're agreed on that. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

10:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

ciclosporindorset says...

I suggest that Ranger will have changed somewhat as a result of his court case. Nobody will know how much not even Nile himself. The consideration given to him by the club will have touched him somewhat, nobody will know how much not even Nile. These are events that change levels of maturity. Certainly the risk of imprisonment is now out of the way so this removes a level of risk. There is no doubt in my mind that he represents a lesser risk overall now than 8 months ago. We all change in our early 20s and grow up through life's experiences. We seem well able to discriminate young from old on this site based on attitudes expressed. I am sure the Mngt team will want to take a view on Niles attitude and commitment over the coming weeks although I am surprised if they want to make this decision quickly!
I suggest that Ranger will have changed somewhat as a result of his court case. Nobody will know how much not even Nile himself. The consideration given to him by the club will have touched him somewhat, nobody will know how much not even Nile. These are events that change levels of maturity. Certainly the risk of imprisonment is now out of the way so this removes a level of risk. There is no doubt in my mind that he represents a lesser risk overall now than 8 months ago. We all change in our early 20s and grow up through life's experiences. We seem well able to discriminate young from old on this site based on attitudes expressed. I am sure the Mngt team will want to take a view on Niles attitude and commitment over the coming weeks although I am surprised if they want to make this decision quickly! ciclosporindorset
  • Score: 6

10:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

What ever cooper and power decide to do with nile it must be for good of the club, because in any situation the club must come first.
What ever cooper and power decide to do with nile it must be for good of the club, because in any situation the club must come first. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

10:37am Sat 8 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

Only one ramification here. If we extend we'll get a handsome transfer fee; if we don't we won't. Offers will come in from half the decent teams in the championship and a few from the prem now that the slate's clean. It's a no brainer.
Only one ramification here. If we extend we'll get a handsome transfer fee; if we don't we won't. Offers will come in from half the decent teams in the championship and a few from the prem now that the slate's clean. It's a no brainer. Fernham Red
  • Score: 5

10:41am Sat 8 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Power will extend Rangers contract and then sell him off in the summer for a Million pounds plus.
Its a business now not a football club.
Too right £1m plus sell on clauses
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Power will extend Rangers contract and then sell him off in the summer for a Million pounds plus. Its a business now not a football club.[/p][/quote]Too right £1m plus sell on clauses Fernham Red
  • Score: 2

10:45am Sat 8 Mar 14

bearwoodred says...

I think Cooper is spot on in his comments and why not say what he said. The guy has just been through a court case and also been a pain in the ar5s all season. Yes Ranger is quality but it's the Charlie scenario do you have one class player upsetting the whole dressing room?????

All Cooper is doing is sending a message to Ranger and rightly so. He expressing an opinion and everyone goes mental again.. If it was the ego then firstly there would have been a big touchline scrap in October or the Ego would have been in court for libel.

I am hoping that Rangers erratic behaviour has been down to the court case, the real threat of loosing his liberty and the fact that he would possibly never play football again. Cooper has to assess if that is the case, he has a team to run and has to be sure that the guy is going to be focussed now. Cooper would have been slated if he said nowt so he may as well get his point out.

But to decide if one player determines if you buy a season ticket is absolutley ludicrous. No one player is bigger etc.... nor is no one fan.....
I think Cooper is spot on in his comments and why not say what he said. The guy has just been through a court case and also been a pain in the ar5s all season. Yes Ranger is quality but it's the Charlie scenario do you have one class player upsetting the whole dressing room????? All Cooper is doing is sending a message to Ranger and rightly so. He expressing an opinion and everyone goes mental again.. If it was the ego then firstly there would have been a big touchline scrap in October or the Ego would have been in court for libel. I am hoping that Rangers erratic behaviour has been down to the court case, the real threat of loosing his liberty and the fact that he would possibly never play football again. Cooper has to assess if that is the case, he has a team to run and has to be sure that the guy is going to be focussed now. Cooper would have been slated if he said nowt so he may as well get his point out. But to decide if one player determines if you buy a season ticket is absolutley ludicrous. No one player is bigger etc.... nor is no one fan..... bearwoodred
  • Score: 6

10:47am Sat 8 Mar 14

We are PANTS says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress.

Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper
Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o)

Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o(
I suspect Cooper would want to beat the c##p out of Victor!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress. Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper[/p][/quote]Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o) Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o([/p][/quote]I suspect Cooper would want to beat the c##p out of Victor!!! We are PANTS
  • Score: 1

10:51am Sat 8 Mar 14

LionelHutz says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol
Agree about the style of play - I could have nodded off at several games - but not about Cooper. The style is imposed from above. I don't see Cooper as arrogant at all. He gives straight answers to the questions put to him, often with a touch of dry humour. I still can't quite believe Cooper has got us to 7th place with a defence that's often resembled a circus and a midfield that often goes missing. Either he is working wonders or we are in a very poor division. - or both.
Have I missed something? Apart from the last few games, the style of play at home this season has been outstanding. Away performances have been poor on the whole, but what difference does that make when deciding whether or not to buy a season ticket?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol[/p][/quote]Agree about the style of play - I could have nodded off at several games - but not about Cooper. The style is imposed from above. I don't see Cooper as arrogant at all. He gives straight answers to the questions put to him, often with a touch of dry humour. I still can't quite believe Cooper has got us to 7th place with a defence that's often resembled a circus and a midfield that often goes missing. Either he is working wonders or we are in a very poor division. - or both.[/p][/quote]Have I missed something? Apart from the last few games, the style of play at home this season has been outstanding. Away performances have been poor on the whole, but what difference does that make when deciding whether or not to buy a season ticket? LionelHutz
  • Score: 6

10:52am Sat 8 Mar 14

We are PANTS says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol
Got mine yesterday!! If the club are in financial trouble would that really stop you from renewing? The more fans that renew, surely the more stable we become??
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Anybody else get the 10% off season ticket offer, worries me that the club are that desperate for cash, wasnt going to renew but now I am torn between taking a year off and renewing, just dont know if I can face watching the style of football we now play for another year, and I dont like MC and his arrogance but at least he isnt andy king lol[/p][/quote]Got mine yesterday!! If the club are in financial trouble would that really stop you from renewing? The more fans that renew, surely the more stable we become?? We are PANTS
  • Score: 1

11:00am Sat 8 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

We are PANTS wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress.

Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper
Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o)

Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o(
I suspect Cooper would want to beat the c##p out of Victor!!!
Going today pantzzzz
I doubt it.
He could always try
[quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress. Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper[/p][/quote]Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o) Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o([/p][/quote]I suspect Cooper would want to beat the c##p out of Victor!!![/p][/quote]Going today pantzzzz I doubt it. He could always try smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

11:15am Sat 8 Mar 14

Wildwestener says...

Whether we want to keep him r no, I suspect he will have offers from clubs with more money now he's free from he trial hanging over him.
Whether we want to keep him r no, I suspect he will have offers from clubs with more money now he's free from he trial hanging over him. Wildwestener
  • Score: 0

11:23am Sat 8 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

Myself I would be in favour of keeping Ranger - at least to show him that someone has faith in him and to maybe give him that chance to prove himself . Having said that the club must also safeguard themselves - so in that respect it has to be baby steps with him - and to see how things pan out .
Myself I would be in favour of keeping Ranger - at least to show him that someone has faith in him and to maybe give him that chance to prove himself . Having said that the club must also safeguard themselves - so in that respect it has to be baby steps with him - and to see how things pan out . lifelong red
  • Score: 2

11:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

Carlo says...

mike1990 wrote:
No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?
You should renew because you support Swindon rather than if Nile signs or not.
[quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?[/p][/quote]You should renew because you support Swindon rather than if Nile signs or not. Carlo
  • Score: 8

11:34am Sat 8 Mar 14

stfcdod says...

mike1990 wrote:
No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?
What an utterly ridiculous reason you use for deciding whether to renew your ST or not. Have you used this system before?
[quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: No Ranger and I won't be renewing my season ticket,sign him up and I'm off to get it renewed like a shot so it's deal or no deal. Powers choice?[/p][/quote]What an utterly ridiculous reason you use for deciding whether to renew your ST or not. Have you used this system before? stfcdod
  • Score: 8

12:04pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Wildwestener wrote:
Whether we want to keep him r no, I suspect he will have offers from clubs with more money now he's free from he trial hanging over him.
I doubt it. He didn't have a trial hanging over him when he drove Palace, Southampton and Newcastle to sack him. He'll have to show he's turned the corner before a queue forms.
[quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: Whether we want to keep him r no, I suspect he will have offers from clubs with more money now he's free from he trial hanging over him.[/p][/quote]I doubt it. He didn't have a trial hanging over him when he drove Palace, Southampton and Newcastle to sack him. He'll have to show he's turned the corner before a queue forms. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

12:12pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Redgollum says...

A load of blather on here. Ranger has had this thing hanging over his head, but has still proved to be a good footballer. Now we can see whether, without his worries, he can become part of a club that has given him a new chance. OK, he is out for the rest of the season through injury, but a few appearances at training etc. would show commitment to the club. IMO, if he carries on like he has done under his own pressure, which has now been released, get rid of him.
If he can get his act together & start being a club member, then he is an asset.
A load of blather on here. Ranger has had this thing hanging over his head, but has still proved to be a good footballer. Now we can see whether, without his worries, he can become part of a club that has given him a new chance. OK, he is out for the rest of the season through injury, but a few appearances at training etc. would show commitment to the club. IMO, if he carries on like he has done under his own pressure, which has now been released, get rid of him. If he can get his act together & start being a club member, then he is an asset. Redgollum
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Bassett Hound says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
Very true Den. What we do not know is just what effect Nile Ranger has in the dressing room. A few years ago we had a better team than this,with a real chance of Championship football but dressing room unrest crucified the team.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]Very true Den. What we do not know is just what effect Nile Ranger has in the dressing room. A few years ago we had a better team than this,with a real chance of Championship football but dressing room unrest crucified the team. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

12:46pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Redgollum wrote:
A load of blather on here. Ranger has had this thing hanging over his head, but has still proved to be a good footballer. Now we can see whether, without his worries, he can become part of a club that has given him a new chance. OK, he is out for the rest of the season through injury, but a few appearances at training etc. would show commitment to the club. IMO, if he carries on like he has done under his own pressure, which has now been released, get rid of him.
If he can get his act together & start being a club member, then he is an asset.
You moan about the "blather" and then repeat it.
[quote][p][bold]Redgollum[/bold] wrote: A load of blather on here. Ranger has had this thing hanging over his head, but has still proved to be a good footballer. Now we can see whether, without his worries, he can become part of a club that has given him a new chance. OK, he is out for the rest of the season through injury, but a few appearances at training etc. would show commitment to the club. IMO, if he carries on like he has done under his own pressure, which has now been released, get rid of him. If he can get his act together & start being a club member, then he is an asset.[/p][/quote]You moan about the "blather" and then repeat it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

12:57pm Sat 8 Mar 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Wildwestener wrote:
Whether we want to keep him r no, I suspect he will have offers from clubs with more money now he's free from he trial hanging over him.
I doubt it. He didn't have a trial hanging over him when he drove Palace, Southampton and Newcastle to sack him. He'll have to show he's turned the corner before a queue forms.
He said in Court the arrest was what led to Newcastle to actually sack him - yes he was no angel before but that incident ended his loan move and got him sacked!
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You can't really count youth contracts as any club would release any youth if they were getting in trouble off the pitch - it's not the same for 15 year olds as it is for 22 year olds pros
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Anyway I just don't get this whole situation
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We had the chance to sack him and chose not too
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It was put to the players and they said keep him
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So now his case is over we suddenly have to weigh up if we want him? WTF!
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Why???? That decision to me was clearly made on Jan 11 when he stepped out against Posh!
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Release him now and very few fans will be behind the decision - whereas in Jan most would have backed it
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Even if they only extend it to do a Flint - they must do it - we can not have gone through this season just to let that level of talent walk for free
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If we are to do that - why bother at all!!!!!!
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Oh and I agree think Cooper should not be talking like this - not helpful at all
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Simply answer we are due to sit down with Nile next week to see what is best for all and will take it from there
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: Whether we want to keep him r no, I suspect he will have offers from clubs with more money now he's free from he trial hanging over him.[/p][/quote]I doubt it. He didn't have a trial hanging over him when he drove Palace, Southampton and Newcastle to sack him. He'll have to show he's turned the corner before a queue forms.[/p][/quote]He said in Court the arrest was what led to Newcastle to actually sack him - yes he was no angel before but that incident ended his loan move and got him sacked! . You can't really count youth contracts as any club would release any youth if they were getting in trouble off the pitch - it's not the same for 15 year olds as it is for 22 year olds pros . Anyway I just don't get this whole situation . We had the chance to sack him and chose not too . It was put to the players and they said keep him . So now his case is over we suddenly have to weigh up if we want him? WTF! . Why???? That decision to me was clearly made on Jan 11 when he stepped out against Posh! . Release him now and very few fans will be behind the decision - whereas in Jan most would have backed it . Even if they only extend it to do a Flint - they must do it - we can not have gone through this season just to let that level of talent walk for free . If we are to do that - why bother at all!!!!!! . Oh and I agree think Cooper should not be talking like this - not helpful at all . Simply answer we are due to sit down with Nile next week to see what is best for all and will take it from there London Red
  • Score: 4

1:03pm Sat 8 Mar 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
Surely the answer to that question is obvious!
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No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty
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We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk!
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That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO!
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As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]Surely the answer to that question is obvious! . No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty . We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk! . That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO! . As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage! London Red
  • Score: 0

1:37pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
Surely the answer to that question is obvious!
.
No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty
.
We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk!
.
That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO!
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As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage!
The manager knows how Ranger has behaved and he is best placed to weigh up the pros and cons. The fact that a decision was made a couple of months ago not to sack him then does not mean the club has committed itself to Nile Ranger. It amazes me that you and others assume the risk has gone because he has been cleared of rape. Cooper obviously believes that Ranger still poses a risk to squad morale otherwise he would have jumped at the chance to extend his contract. You can assume there is no risk if you want to - but you don't have Cooper's knowledge of Ranger or the relationship between him and the other players. Yes, they agreed to accept him back into the fold. We don't know whether that was a unanimous will. I'm sure the picture is not as simple as you try to paint it.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]Surely the answer to that question is obvious! . No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty . We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk! . That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO! . As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage![/p][/quote]The manager knows how Ranger has behaved and he is best placed to weigh up the pros and cons. The fact that a decision was made a couple of months ago not to sack him then does not mean the club has committed itself to Nile Ranger. It amazes me that you and others assume the risk has gone because he has been cleared of rape. Cooper obviously believes that Ranger still poses a risk to squad morale otherwise he would have jumped at the chance to extend his contract. You can assume there is no risk if you want to - but you don't have Cooper's knowledge of Ranger or the relationship between him and the other players. Yes, they agreed to accept him back into the fold. We don't know whether that was a unanimous will. I'm sure the picture is not as simple as you try to paint it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Sat 8 Mar 14

We are PANTS says...

smirg kcab wrote:
We are PANTS wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress.

Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper
Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o)

Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o(
I suspect Cooper would want to beat the c##p out of Victor!!!
Going today pantzzzz
I doubt it.
He could always try
Sure are Vic.... See you there!!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Cooper don't want him he's not young and not a work in progress. Power wants him, power has the last word, fingers cross it's hello ranger goodbye cooper[/p][/quote]Grim if you bump into MC in Bristol again is he going to be your hero again ?.... :o) Or is it the fact has he stopped waving at you in the crowd ..... :o([/p][/quote]I suspect Cooper would want to beat the c##p out of Victor!!![/p][/quote]Going today pantzzzz I doubt it. He could always try[/p][/quote]Sure are Vic.... See you there!! We are PANTS
  • Score: 0

2:37pm Sat 8 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
oo-r-ya? wrote:
the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Totally agree. Cooper clearly only wants faceless "yes" men in his dressing room with no personalities. You cannot have an original match-winner on the pitch without the same character traits being there off the field. Moulding a team from differing backgrounds is what management is all about. After all we've been through a period of major turmoil with him already.
Whilst you jump at the chance to have another 'pop' you should consider the problems an individual can cause in this dressing room if the' tail starts to wag the dog' as they say..
Whilst Nile is good on the pitch he would appear or allegedly to be arrogant and from what we have seen a bit disrespectful.
So to use your words that 'moulding' can be very tricky and for the sake of keeping a good player on the pitch you could lose the dressing room.
Perhaps bringing out in the open may not be PC, but could be outlining the situation.
Whilst you jump at the chance to have another 'pop' you should consider the problems an individual can cause in this dressing room...
Consider this WINNING A GAME WHEN Nile IS PLAYING helps ??...

Yes i do understand were you are coming from BUT GOALS win you games KNOT SITTING BACK ON A 1 NIL LEAD as we have seen in the past 5 games

Whilst Nile is good on the pitch he would appear or allegedly to be arrogant. and from what we have seen a bit disrespectful.

How many people at your or anyone on here WHO WORKS have people like that ??????...YES EVERYONE
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Cooper clearly only wants faceless "yes" men in his dressing room with no personalities. You cannot have an original match-winner on the pitch without the same character traits being there off the field. Moulding a team from differing backgrounds is what management is all about. After all we've been through a period of major turmoil with him already.[/p][/quote]Whilst you jump at the chance to have another 'pop' you should consider the problems an individual can cause in this dressing room if the' tail starts to wag the dog' as they say.. Whilst Nile is good on the pitch he would appear or allegedly to be arrogant and from what we have seen a bit disrespectful. So to use your words that 'moulding' can be very tricky and for the sake of keeping a good player on the pitch you could lose the dressing room. Perhaps bringing out in the open may not be PC, but could be outlining the situation.[/p][/quote]Whilst you jump at the chance to have another 'pop' you should consider the problems an individual can cause in this dressing room... Consider this WINNING A GAME WHEN Nile IS PLAYING helps ??... Yes i do understand were you are coming from BUT GOALS win you games KNOT SITTING BACK ON A 1 NIL LEAD as we have seen in the past 5 games Whilst Nile is good on the pitch he would appear or allegedly to be arrogant. and from what we have seen a bit disrespectful. How many people at your or anyone on here WHO WORKS have people like that ??????...YES EVERYONE dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Sun 9 Mar 14

subbuteoles says...

We need Nile Ranger. Look what we,ve been like without him in the team. End Of.
We need Nile Ranger. Look what we,ve been like without him in the team. End Of. subbuteoles
  • Score: 1

2:46pm Sun 9 Mar 14

MisterD says...

the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Dear Wizard,

I agree totally.

Firstly, Cooper has been involved in football both personally, and via his family, to have more common sense than to openly make such personal statements. It seems to indicate that as a motivator, he is poor, and could do with attending an appropriate course.
Secondly, Rogers may be something of a pain, but at least he might score some of the (increasingly) fewer chances that the team creates.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Dear Wizard, I agree totally. Firstly, Cooper has been involved in football both personally, and via his family, to have more common sense than to openly make such personal statements. It seems to indicate that as a motivator, he is poor, and could do with attending an appropriate course. Secondly, Rogers may be something of a pain, but at least he might score some of the (increasingly) fewer chances that the team creates. MisterD
  • Score: -1

6:22pm Sun 9 Mar 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
Surely the answer to that question is obvious!
.
No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty
.
We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk!
.
That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO!
.
As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage!
The manager knows how Ranger has behaved and he is best placed to weigh up the pros and cons. The fact that a decision was made a couple of months ago not to sack him then does not mean the club has committed itself to Nile Ranger. It amazes me that you and others assume the risk has gone because he has been cleared of rape. Cooper obviously believes that Ranger still poses a risk to squad morale otherwise he would have jumped at the chance to extend his contract. You can assume there is no risk if you want to - but you don't have Cooper's knowledge of Ranger or the relationship between him and the other players. Yes, they agreed to accept him back into the fold. We don't know whether that was a unanimous will. I'm sure the picture is not as simple as you try to paint it.
I never said there is no risk now the case is over
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What I said was why keep him on in Jan if going to release him in May?
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Surely if he is that disruptive to the squad he should have been sacked then!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]Surely the answer to that question is obvious! . No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty . We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk! . That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO! . As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage![/p][/quote]The manager knows how Ranger has behaved and he is best placed to weigh up the pros and cons. The fact that a decision was made a couple of months ago not to sack him then does not mean the club has committed itself to Nile Ranger. It amazes me that you and others assume the risk has gone because he has been cleared of rape. Cooper obviously believes that Ranger still poses a risk to squad morale otherwise he would have jumped at the chance to extend his contract. You can assume there is no risk if you want to - but you don't have Cooper's knowledge of Ranger or the relationship between him and the other players. Yes, they agreed to accept him back into the fold. We don't know whether that was a unanimous will. I'm sure the picture is not as simple as you try to paint it.[/p][/quote]I never said there is no risk now the case is over . What I said was why keep him on in Jan if going to release him in May? . Surely if he is that disruptive to the squad he should have been sacked then! London Red
  • Score: 1

7:24pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.
Surely the answer to that question is obvious!
.
No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty
.
We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk!
.
That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO!
.
As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage!
The manager knows how Ranger has behaved and he is best placed to weigh up the pros and cons. The fact that a decision was made a couple of months ago not to sack him then does not mean the club has committed itself to Nile Ranger. It amazes me that you and others assume the risk has gone because he has been cleared of rape. Cooper obviously believes that Ranger still poses a risk to squad morale otherwise he would have jumped at the chance to extend his contract. You can assume there is no risk if you want to - but you don't have Cooper's knowledge of Ranger or the relationship between him and the other players. Yes, they agreed to accept him back into the fold. We don't know whether that was a unanimous will. I'm sure the picture is not as simple as you try to paint it.
I never said there is no risk now the case is over
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What I said was why keep him on in Jan if going to release him in May?
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Surely if he is that disruptive to the squad he should have been sacked then!
Not necessarily. I thought it was a question of giving him another chance, despite his disruptive behaviour, probably because we are woefully short up front without him. It was obviously a very marginal decision, as the club had already said he was going to be sacked.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Where has this notion come from that Ranger is suddenly worth a fortune when we were the only club prepared to sign him up at no cost? He is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Three clubs sacked him for his antics that had nothing to do with his recent trial. A Ranger without the baggage is a potential gold mine and England international. Any club that signs him, including us, is taking that gamble - vast riches or more trouble.[/p][/quote]Surely the answer to that question is obvious! . No one wanted to take the potential risk to their reputation and potentially lose a key player for 5 years if he was found guilty . We were - so now should be able to take the reward of that risk! . That has now gone so others will now be more willing to take the risk on him as he has that potential - Clarke has baggage but went for £750k - Ranger is better IMO! . As others have said before he is our Mario - who doesn't seem to have trouble landing big money moves despite all his baggage![/p][/quote]The manager knows how Ranger has behaved and he is best placed to weigh up the pros and cons. The fact that a decision was made a couple of months ago not to sack him then does not mean the club has committed itself to Nile Ranger. It amazes me that you and others assume the risk has gone because he has been cleared of rape. Cooper obviously believes that Ranger still poses a risk to squad morale otherwise he would have jumped at the chance to extend his contract. You can assume there is no risk if you want to - but you don't have Cooper's knowledge of Ranger or the relationship between him and the other players. Yes, they agreed to accept him back into the fold. We don't know whether that was a unanimous will. I'm sure the picture is not as simple as you try to paint it.[/p][/quote]I never said there is no risk now the case is over . What I said was why keep him on in Jan if going to release him in May? . Surely if he is that disruptive to the squad he should have been sacked then![/p][/quote]Not necessarily. I thought it was a question of giving him another chance, despite his disruptive behaviour, probably because we are woefully short up front without him. It was obviously a very marginal decision, as the club had already said he was going to be sacked. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

8:20pm Sun 9 Mar 14

the wizard says...

MisterD wrote:
the wizard wrote:
I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.
Dear Wizard,

I agree totally.

Firstly, Cooper has been involved in football both personally, and via his family, to have more common sense than to openly make such personal statements. It seems to indicate that as a motivator, he is poor, and could do with attending an appropriate course.
Secondly, Rogers may be something of a pain, but at least he might score some of the (increasingly) fewer chances that the team creates.
Mr D

LOL, Rogers could fashion a goal from very little, BUT, I think you were referring to Ranger, slight tippo I suspect. Were you watching Wigan when typing ?? A good afternoons sport.

Yes, I think if he is fit Ranger should be brought back into the team asap even if its for the last 20 minutes due to injury worries, because he does make the difference to this squad. Not only does he score goals, he can hold the ball up, twist ,turn, pass and defend, and above all is not selfish in attack. Christchurch he could under the right coach be dynamite.
[quote][p][bold]MisterD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that to be constructive Cooper would keep his personal thoughts about Ranger private at least until the talks were over. To come out and comment in this manner using these phrases, not very complementary, hardly inspires a feeling of Cooper being competent to handle players at a senior level and having a mature head on his shoulders to handle the issues that you may crop up with young players. Cooper, some things you just don't say to the press or, in public. Now Ranger has something to hit you with.[/p][/quote]Dear Wizard, I agree totally. Firstly, Cooper has been involved in football both personally, and via his family, to have more common sense than to openly make such personal statements. It seems to indicate that as a motivator, he is poor, and could do with attending an appropriate course. Secondly, Rogers may be something of a pain, but at least he might score some of the (increasingly) fewer chances that the team creates.[/p][/quote]Mr D LOL, Rogers could fashion a goal from very little, BUT, I think you were referring to Ranger, slight tippo I suspect. Were you watching Wigan when typing ?? A good afternoons sport. Yes, I think if he is fit Ranger should be brought back into the team asap even if its for the last 20 minutes due to injury worries, because he does make the difference to this squad. Not only does he score goals, he can hold the ball up, twist ,turn, pass and defend, and above all is not selfish in attack. Christchurch he could under the right coach be dynamite. the wizard
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