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  • REPORTING BY SAM MORSHEAD
  • FT: Carlisle 1 (Madine 37) Town 0
  • Madine ends Swindon's winning run
  • Michael Smith and Pritchard miss golden chances to equalise
  • Berrett sent off in stoppage time for two yellows

5:01pm

I'm afraid we can only offer match coverage today, ladies and gents, due to the set-up here in Carlisle. Full reaction to today's game can be found in The Result in Monday's Swindon Advertiser.

Enjoy what's left of your weekends.

4:58pm

FULL-TIME

Carlisle Utd 1 (Madine 37) Swindon Town 0

Swindon improved significantly after the break but were unable to find a way past the hosts, as Michael Smith and Alex Pritchard both spurned glorious chances.

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4:57pm

RED CARD

Berrett sent off for two bookable offences, 90

4:53pm

Four minutes of added time.

4:52pm

YELLOW CARD

McEveley trips Amoo and is booked, 89

4:48pm

85 mins: A long-range drive from Louis Thompson has Pickford worried but it fizzes over.

4:43pm

80 mins: Byrne hacks a wild effort high and wide from 20 yards out.

4:42pm

It's all gone flat for Swindon in the last 10 minutes after a good third quarter of the game. You tend to feel their chances may have gone.

4:41pm

78 mins: Symington's free-kick is woeful. Goal-kick.

4:38pm

75 mins: Byrne's curling effort is goalbound before it takes a deflection off a Carlisle forehead. Corner.

4:33pm

SWINDON SUBSTITUTION

Louis Thompson replaces Massimo Luongo, 70

4:28pm

SWINDON SUBSTITUTION

Nathan Byrne replaces Nathan Thompson, 65

4:26pm

63 mins: A game of head tennis in the area ends with Archibald-Henville nodding over from close range.

4:24pm

CARLISLE SUBSTITUTION

Reece Brown replaces Danny Redmond, 62

4:23pm

60 mins: Archibald-Henville's header from Pritchard's corner is easily grabbed out of the air by Pickford.

4:16pm

53 mins: Pritchard robs Paul Thirlwell, bears down on goal and has Michael Smith free in the box, He chooses to shoot, and it's straight at Pickford.

4:15pm

51 mins: Pritchard puts Storey in but the striker can only fire straight at Pickford. Poor finish.

4:11pm

49 mins: Stephens heads tamely wide from Alex Smith's corner.

4:11pm

48 mins: Good save from Jordan Pickford to deny Alex Smith's free-kick. Corner to Town.

4:10pm

Attendance here is 4,055.

4:09pm

SWINDON SUBSTITUTION

Alex Pritchard replaces Lee Cox, 46

4:08pm

And. They're. Off. Forty-five minutes for Town to turn it around.

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4:06pm

The two teams are back out for the second half.

4:06pm

LEAGUE ONE HALF-TIMES

Bradford 1 Oldham 2; Brentford 2 Notts County 0; Bristol City 0 Preston 0; Carlisle 1 Swindon 0; Colchester 1 Tranmere 1; Coventry 0 MK Dons 1; Crawley 0 Crewe 1; Gillingham 1 Rotherham 1; Port Vale 0 Walsall 0; Sheffield Utd 0 Leyton Orient 1; Shrewsbury 0 Stevenage 0

4:03pm

YOUR SAY

3:56pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says

Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them.

Luongo and Kasim the best two players in the Town side so far. Taking him off would be ludicrous.

3:58pm

You would imagine Alex Pritchard will have a big part to play in the second half. He's getting a thorough warm-up in right now with fitness coach Michael Cooper.

3:52pm

HALF-TIME

Carlisle Utd 1 (Madine 37) Swindon Town 0

It's been a pretty unattractive show so far. Carlisle have been the better side and deserve their lead, though the defending for Madine's opener was sub-standard.

Town can't create anything going forward and look susceptible to the pace of David Amoo and the poacher's instincts of Madine.

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3:50pm

One minute of added time.

3:44pm

Carlisle Utd 1 (Gary Madine 37) Swindon Town 0

Really sloppy defensive play from Town allows Chris Chantler to wander down the right and find Madine in the six-yard box. The striker is allowed to take a touch and turn so close to goal and he obliges with a fine finish.

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3:38pm

YELLOW CARD

Berrett scythes down Alex Smith and gets a caution, 33

3:32pm

27 mins: That's another extraordinary save from Wes Foderingham, leaping to his left, to keep out Madine's bullet header.

3:31pm

Jay McEveley is holding his chest but waves away the offer of treatment.

3:29pm

We're midway through the first half and Town are starting to impress themselves on the game.

3:25pm

20 mins: Michael Smith is the latest to fire well over from 30-odd yards.

3:22pm

YELLOW CARD

Jack Stephens booked for deliberate handball, 17

3:21pm

Carlisle are playing well so far and Swindon are struggling to a hold on the ball at all.

3:19pm

15 mins: Madine rises at the back post to head wide from James Berrett's corner.

3:15pm

10 mins: Jack Stephens tries his luck from range. He's not so lucky this time.

3:12pm

Difficult start for Swindon, with Carlisle enjoying much more possession. Not that they've been able to do anything with it yet.

3:09pm

Four mins: Gary Madine drags a volley wide on the turn after he looked to push Jay McEveley on the edge of the box.

3:08pm

Troy Archibald-Henville is holding his head after a challenge in midfield. Looks like he'll be okay.

3:05pm

And we're off at Brunton Park.

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3:03pm

3:01pm

The teams are out at Brunton Park. Kick-off is just moments away.

2:58pm

Troy Archibald-Henville gets a good round of applause from the home crowd as he heads back to the changing rooms.

2:54pm

2:54pm

Town players are still warming up, with kick-off now just six minutes away.

2:53pm

ADVER CHIEF SPORTS WRITER SAM MORSHEAD: "On a personal level, trips to Carlisle have never been particularly enjoyable.

"Last year we arrived 20 minutes into the game after huge delays on the M6 extended our journey to eight-and-a-bit hours, while previously we took six different trains to attend a goalless draw.

"While I was at uni, a friend and I decided on a whim to journey over in the wind and rain from Leeds to see a midweek evening game. We got lost, almost got blown off the road, turned up with two minutes to go til the off and paid £20 to watch Town lose 3-0.

"Simply, it can't get any worse. So I have high expectations of today."

2:50pm

Swindon's players are still out on the Brunton Park pitch warming up, with kick-off 10 minutes away. Carlisle have been back in the changing rooms for five or so minutes.

2:48pm

PREDICTIONS

2:46pm

PREDICTIONS

2:46pm

We have a Swindon Town mascot at Brunton Park today. Fair play to Honor Fraser (and parents, no doubt). That's one hell of an undertaking.

2:43pm

Nathan Byrne has praised the team spirit in the Swindon Town camp by branding the current squad “the tightest group” of players he’s played with over the course of his career.

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NATHAN BYRNE IS A SUB THIS AFTERNOON

"There is a lot of youth. Even with some of the older lads, they still have a laugh and a joke. It’s about not being too serious all the time.

"There’s always banter flying around the dressing room and that helps because we’re all young lads, we’re all willing to learn and we all want to improve - individually and as a team."

2:40pm

Twenty minutes until kick-off here at Brunton Park. A crowd of between 3,500 and 4,000 is expected, with approximately 150 making the trip from Swindon.

2:38pm

MAN IN THE MIDDLE

This afternoon's referee is Nigel Miller. He was the man in charge of that remarkable League One play-off semi at Brentford in May.

That alone gives us the chance to relive this moment...

2:33pm

2:32pm

Swindon Town's players stayed in a local hotel overnight after traveling up to Carlisle United on Friday.

It's the first time the Robins have spent the night before a game in a hotel since the trip to Sheffield United in December.

Swindon Advertiser: Mark Cooper

Read manager Mark Cooper's thoughts on the trip right here.

2:28pm

Scrap that. They're out here now.

2:28pm

Town's outfield players are still to emerge for their warm-up, though Wes Foderingham and Tyrell Belford are out for theirs.

2:27pm

Three Swindon Town youngsters have been called up by Scotland Under 15s for two international challenge matches against the Republic of Ireland next week.

Defender Will Christopher and midfielders Callum Gunnar and Jordan Young all impressed Scottish manager Scot Gemmill during a recent training camp and have been summoned for national service once again for the games, which are due to take place at East End Park in Dumfermline on Monday and Wednesday next week.

2:22pm

LEAGUE ONE FIXTURES

Bradford v Oldham; Brentford v Notts County; Bristol City v Preston; Carlisle v Swindon; Colchester v Tranmere; Coventry v MK Dons; Crawley v Crewe; Gillingham v Rotherham; Port Vale v Walsall; Sheff Utd v Leyton Orient; Shrewsbury v Stevenage; Wolves v Peterborough

2:20pm

YOUR SAY

2:17pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says

Feelings back in check!!
So Luongo in for Gladwin,so who plays out left?
Story i guess?

It's a 3-5-2, so Alex Smith is left wing-back, with Luongo, Cox and Kasim the three in midfield. Storey and Michael Smith up top.

2:12pm

DANGER MAN

Gary Madine has returned to Carlisle United from Sheffield Wednesday and he'll be the biggest threat to Swindon Town's goal today, as this video sort of proves...

2:07pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

CARLISLE UTD v Swindon Town: Pickford; Chimbonda, O'Hanlon, Thirlwell; Symington, Chantler, Potts, Berrett, Amoo; Madine, Redmond

Substitutes: Fleming, Byrne, Brough, Brown, Guy, Meppen-Walter, Novo

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2:03pm

YOUR SAY

2:03pm

YOUR SAY

1:53pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says

Don't take things for granted and we should win this one.
I have a feeling Pritchard is going to start.

Need to sort out those feelings...

2:02pm

Massimo Luongo replaces Ben Gladwin in the only change made by Swindon Town manager Mark Cooper.

2:01pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

Carlisle Utd v SWINDON TOWN: Foderingham; Stephens, Archibald-Henville, McEveley; N Thompson, Luongo, Cox, Kasim, A Smith; Storey, M Smith

Substitutes: Belford, Branco, Byrne, Gladwin, L Thompson, Pritchard, Waldon 

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1:58pm

Team news is expected in around five minutes. In the meantime, Carlisle are continuing to water the pitch. Despite it having rained all night up here.

Slippppppppy.

1:53pm

YOUR SAY

1:52pm

1:52pm

YOUR SAY

1:51pm

ADVER CHIEF SPORTS WRITER SAM MORSHEAD: "It's a strong squad Swindon have taken to Carlisle, with Alex Pritchard and Massimo Luongo both included in the traveling party.

"It will be interesting to see how Mark Cooper tweaks it, if at all, off the back of three successive wins."

1:45pm

Swindon Town's players have arrived at Brunton Park ahead of their clash with Carlisle United. They're having a look at the pitch now.

1:44pm

1:42pm

Alex Pritchard is not necessarily guaranteed an automatic place in the Swindon Town line-up when he returns from suspension for tomorrow’s trip to Carlisle United.

Manager Mark Cooper said on the topic during his pre-match press conference: Alex gives us something a little bit different. He’s a little unorthodox in the way he plays, a little bit of a throw-back, jinky wide player and we know with Alex that at any time of the game he can create something out of nothing for us,” he said.

Swindon Advertiser: Alex Pritchard shove on Wade Elliot that earned the Town loan star a red card

ALEX PRTICHARD IS SENT OFF AGAINST BRISTOL CITY

“It’s another good player back in the squad.

“What it does do is create competition. The players who are in the team at the minute are thinking ‘Pritch is back this week, I’ve got to make sure I run about and give everything I’ve got otherwise Pritch is going to come back in the team’.

“I think the players are comfortable in that they know that if they’re doing the business they’re going to stay in the team.”

1:39pm

Earlier in the season, Swindon Town beat Carlisle United 3-1 at the County Ground.

Enjoy the highlights here...

1:37pm

YOUR SAY

1:12pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says

Same starting line up please and a good 3 points putting pressure on those above us. If we maintain our momentum you just never know what may give in the last couple of games. Lets wish for a good ending to our season, one which a year ago seemed very improbable.

1:37pm

YOUR SAY

Matchday Live is more than just a report on today’s game, it’s an opportunity for you to tell us exactly how you feel about current events at Swindon Town.

So, whether it’s complaints about lukewarm pies in the Arkell’s Stand, concerns over the abundance of youth in the Robins’ set-up or frustration at your latest delayed train, we want to hear from you.

Getting in touch is easy, just follow one of the below options:

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1:35pm

TEAM NEWS

Nothing official until around 2pm but here's a quick rundown of the state of the Swindon Town squad going into this afternoon's fixture.

Alex Pritchard returns from his three-match ban and will be vying to force his way past Ben Gladwin into the starting XI, while Nathan Byrne could come in for Alex Smith.

Swindon Advertiser: Alex Pritchard

ALEX PRITCHARD - BACK FROM SUSPENSION

Ryan Mason, Ryan Harley and Nile Ranger are all out for the rest of the season, while Grant Hall is not yet match fit following a calf injury,.

1:33pm

That all points of a drab affair at Brunton Park this afternoon, but with both teams in need of points for very different reasons, perhaps there could be more to it than a defensive masterclass.

Stick with Matchday Live for all the best pre-match updates, followed by in-play commentary, right here on the Adver's website.

Sit back, relax and enjoy.

1:32pm

The Blues have drawn each of their last three home matches 0-0 and have managed four goalless draws in their last seven outings, while Swindon have been involved in two stalemates of their own since Valentine's Day.

1:31pm

Town go into today's game looking for their fourth straight victory in League One, while Carlisle are battling against relegation at the opposite end of the table.

1:30pm

Good afternoon ladies and gents and welcome to drizzly Cumbria, where Swindon Town face Carlisle United this afternoon.

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1:12pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Same starting line up please and a good 3 points putting pressure on those above us. If we maintain our momentum you just never know what may give in the last couple of games. Lets wish for a good ending to our season, one which a year ago seemed very improbable.
Same starting line up please and a good 3 points putting pressure on those above us. If we maintain our momentum you just never know what may give in the last couple of games. Lets wish for a good ending to our season, one which a year ago seemed very improbable. the wizard
  • Score: -1

1:53pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

Don't take things for granted and we should win this one.
I have a feeling Pritchard is going to start.
Don't take things for granted and we should win this one. I have a feeling Pritchard is going to start. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

Feelings back in check!!
So Luongo in for Gladwin,so who plays out left?
Story i guess?
Feelings back in check!! So Luongo in for Gladwin,so who plays out left? Story i guess? swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

2:28pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

3-5-2 my favorite team formation,it has worked well the last fortnight.
3-5-2 my favorite team formation,it has worked well the last fortnight. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

2:43pm Sat 5 Apr 14

London Red says...

Surprised so many still say CB pairing, back four and who is out wide - we have played with a back 3 and wingbacks for 3 games now!
.
Glad with midfield change as we needed a thrust from midfield and either Luongo or Pritchard was needed - happy with Luongo as his best games have come from that position
.
Bench looks much stronger too with Gladwin Thompson Pritchard and Bynre
.
Keep it tight at the back and we could get a result here - Calisle have only scored 2 in 7 or something equally as poor
.
Oh and should end the Spurs lads must start nonsense too - 3rd time Pritchard has been on bench and Mason had 6 appearances from there - not sure if he was unused on top of them?
Surprised so many still say CB pairing, back four and who is out wide - we have played with a back 3 and wingbacks for 3 games now! . Glad with midfield change as we needed a thrust from midfield and either Luongo or Pritchard was needed - happy with Luongo as his best games have come from that position . Bench looks much stronger too with Gladwin Thompson Pritchard and Bynre . Keep it tight at the back and we could get a result here - Calisle have only scored 2 in 7 or something equally as poor . Oh and should end the Spurs lads must start nonsense too - 3rd time Pritchard has been on bench and Mason had 6 appearances from there - not sure if he was unused on top of them? London Red
  • Score: 1

2:51pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

London Red wrote:
Surprised so many still say CB pairing, back four and who is out wide - we have played with a back 3 and wingbacks for 3 games now!
.
Glad with midfield change as we needed a thrust from midfield and either Luongo or Pritchard was needed - happy with Luongo as his best games have come from that position
.
Bench looks much stronger too with Gladwin Thompson Pritchard and Bynre
.
Keep it tight at the back and we could get a result here - Calisle have only scored 2 in 7 or something equally as poor
.
Oh and should end the Spurs lads must start nonsense too - 3rd time Pritchard has been on bench and Mason had 6 appearances from there - not sure if he was unused on top of them?
I guess part of this is aimed a me, Gladwin was exclusive left wing last Saturday with Smith pushing up, i can not see Luongo doing the Gladwin role and hence it is an exclusive and proper 3-5-2 today with 3 CM's also, not 2.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Surprised so many still say CB pairing, back four and who is out wide - we have played with a back 3 and wingbacks for 3 games now! . Glad with midfield change as we needed a thrust from midfield and either Luongo or Pritchard was needed - happy with Luongo as his best games have come from that position . Bench looks much stronger too with Gladwin Thompson Pritchard and Bynre . Keep it tight at the back and we could get a result here - Calisle have only scored 2 in 7 or something equally as poor . Oh and should end the Spurs lads must start nonsense too - 3rd time Pritchard has been on bench and Mason had 6 appearances from there - not sure if he was unused on top of them?[/p][/quote]I guess part of this is aimed a me, Gladwin was exclusive left wing last Saturday with Smith pushing up, i can not see Luongo doing the Gladwin role and hence it is an exclusive and proper 3-5-2 today with 3 CM's also, not 2. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

3:42pm Sat 5 Apr 14

London Red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
London Red wrote:
Surprised so many still say CB pairing, back four and who is out wide - we have played with a back 3 and wingbacks for 3 games now!
.
Glad with midfield change as we needed a thrust from midfield and either Luongo or Pritchard was needed - happy with Luongo as his best games have come from that position
.
Bench looks much stronger too with Gladwin Thompson Pritchard and Bynre
.
Keep it tight at the back and we could get a result here - Calisle have only scored 2 in 7 or something equally as poor
.
Oh and should end the Spurs lads must start nonsense too - 3rd time Pritchard has been on bench and Mason had 6 appearances from there - not sure if he was unused on top of them?
I guess part of this is aimed a me, Gladwin was exclusive left wing last Saturday with Smith pushing up, i can not see Luongo doing the Gladwin role and hence it is an exclusive and proper 3-5-2 today with 3 CM's also, not 2.
I certainly did not see that at all last week!
.
Was a clear 352 all game to me
.
Point wasn't just at you - had the comments about breaking up the partnership in Hall articles - when it is a trio at present
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Surprised so many still say CB pairing, back four and who is out wide - we have played with a back 3 and wingbacks for 3 games now! . Glad with midfield change as we needed a thrust from midfield and either Luongo or Pritchard was needed - happy with Luongo as his best games have come from that position . Bench looks much stronger too with Gladwin Thompson Pritchard and Bynre . Keep it tight at the back and we could get a result here - Calisle have only scored 2 in 7 or something equally as poor . Oh and should end the Spurs lads must start nonsense too - 3rd time Pritchard has been on bench and Mason had 6 appearances from there - not sure if he was unused on top of them?[/p][/quote]I guess part of this is aimed a me, Gladwin was exclusive left wing last Saturday with Smith pushing up, i can not see Luongo doing the Gladwin role and hence it is an exclusive and proper 3-5-2 today with 3 CM's also, not 2.[/p][/quote]I certainly did not see that at all last week! . Was a clear 352 all game to me . Point wasn't just at you - had the comments about breaking up the partnership in Hall articles - when it is a trio at present London Red
  • Score: -2

3:47pm Sat 5 Apr 14

old town robin says...

0-1 That was coming wasn't it, going by reports Madine is causing our defence all sorts of problems. What is Cooper going to do to combat his threat and at the same time be a little bit more creative ourselves.
0-1 That was coming wasn't it, going by reports Madine is causing our defence all sorts of problems. What is Cooper going to do to combat his threat and at the same time be a little bit more creative ourselves. old town robin
  • Score: 1

3:56pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them.
Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them. the wizard
  • Score: -3

4:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

We are PANTS says...

the wizard wrote:
Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them.
I would get Loui and glad win on....
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them.[/p][/quote]I would get Loui and glad win on.... We are PANTS
  • Score: 0

4:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

We are PANTS says...

the wizard wrote:
Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them.
I would get Loui and glad win on....
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Come on Cooper, make the change Luongo off Gladwin on and tell him to run at them.[/p][/quote]I would get Loui and glad win on.... We are PANTS
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Sat 5 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Wolves doing their bit to help us, just taken the lead against the Posh, now Cooper needs to change it round and get us playing in the second half..
Wolves doing their bit to help us, just taken the lead against the Posh, now Cooper needs to change it round and get us playing in the second half.. old town robin
  • Score: 1

4:25pm Sat 5 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

Both strikers missing chances.
Both strikers missing chances. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Sat 5 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Sounds like we are vcreating chances in second half but their goalie Pickford is saving everything coming, pity about the Storey miss.
Sounds like we are vcreating chances in second half but their goalie Pickford is saving everything coming, pity about the Storey miss. old town robin
  • Score: 0

4:31pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Luongo and Kasim the best two players in the Town side so far. Taking him off would be ludicrous.

Sam, I'm at a wedding today and only have your words to go by, and no mention of Luongo so far, but I still think Gladwin takes the game forward well and runs at players. IMO very impressive if raw in his games so far, and it looks like we need to mix things up a bit.

Wasn't Madine specuulated to to CG last season ?
Luongo and Kasim the best two players in the Town side so far. Taking him off would be ludicrous. Sam, I'm at a wedding today and only have your words to go by, and no mention of Luongo so far, but I still think Gladwin takes the game forward well and runs at players. IMO very impressive if raw in his games so far, and it looks like we need to mix things up a bit. Wasn't Madine specuulated to to CG last season ? the wizard
  • Score: -1

5:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Robinonfire says...

Cooper changed a winning side again.......great.
Cooper changed a winning side again.......great. Robinonfire
  • Score: -12

5:11pm Sat 5 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt old town robin
  • Score: 2

5:17pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Hampshire_ReD says...

So much for "6 cup finals". If we can't beat the teams at the bottom of the table, we're clearly not promotion material, which in fairness we haven't really been all season.

The question now is how Cooper will get on with a smaller playing budget next season.
So much for "6 cup finals". If we can't beat the teams at the bottom of the table, we're clearly not promotion material, which in fairness we haven't really been all season. The question now is how Cooper will get on with a smaller playing budget next season. Hampshire_ReD
  • Score: 2

5:36pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' .... Chish and Fips
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
SPOT ON OTR...
So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong..
We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all )
How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????..

I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]SPOT ON OTR... So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong.. We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all ) How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????.. I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team dazzastfc
  • Score: -11

5:45pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Maxwell'79 says...

In my opinion, M Smith plays just like Andy Williams.....tall , pacey but lacking in decent control and finishing. I was a bt disappointed to see Luongo back in the team. I don't think he has been. On form for a while now and Gladwin has played well the past 2 games.


I still think we might sneak play-offs as although we are 4 points off, us, Mk and Port Vale will be heaping pressure on a high-spending Peterborough. One team always sneaks play-offs at the last minute.

Come on you reds!!

P.S - am also massively proud to see Nathan as Captain of the team - a top player and home-grown to boot!
In my opinion, M Smith plays just like Andy Williams.....tall , pacey but lacking in decent control and finishing. I was a bt disappointed to see Luongo back in the team. I don't think he has been. On form for a while now and Gladwin has played well the past 2 games. I still think we might sneak play-offs as although we are 4 points off, us, Mk and Port Vale will be heaping pressure on a high-spending Peterborough. One team always sneaks play-offs at the last minute. Come on you reds!! P.S - am also massively proud to see Nathan as Captain of the team - a top player and home-grown to boot! Maxwell'79
  • Score: 8

5:46pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says...

We needed a sledge hammer today in the form of Gladwin, who takes no prisoners, but instills fear in players by running at them, so who do we get, pretty boy Luongo, who doesn't really graft, but is still no doubt work in progress.

It was all to play for Cooper and you guffed it. If it aint broke then don't try to fix it, instead you guffed it up, splendid.......not.
We needed a sledge hammer today in the form of Gladwin, who takes no prisoners, but instills fear in players by running at them, so who do we get, pretty boy Luongo, who doesn't really graft, but is still no doubt work in progress. It was all to play for Cooper and you guffed it. If it aint broke then don't try to fix it, instead you guffed it up, splendid.......not. the wizard
  • Score: -1

5:47pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

dazzastfc wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
SPOT ON OTR...
So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong..
We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all )
How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????..

I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team
Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]SPOT ON OTR... So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong.. We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all ) How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????.. I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 7

5:59pm Sat 5 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....
Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game.

It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....[/p][/quote]Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game. It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly old town robin
  • Score: 4

6:07pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

old town robin wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....
Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game.

It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly
Sorry OTR I wasn't implying you were copying his words - quite the opposite.
Agreed the injury to Nile has screwed us, as probably Smith was a backup option not the main man.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....[/p][/quote]Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game. It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly[/p][/quote]Sorry OTR I wasn't implying you were copying his words - quite the opposite. Agreed the injury to Nile has screwed us, as probably Smith was a backup option not the main man. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 0

6:24pm Sat 5 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....
Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game.

It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly
Sorry OTR I wasn't implying you were copying his words - quite the opposite.
Agreed the injury to Nile has screwed us, as probably Smith was a backup option not the main man.
Didn't even cross my mind you were implying I was posting Coops comments, in fact it was good to see you confirming what probably 90% of the forum know as a fact and Coops is aware of the shortfalls of our impotent strikers..

Smith arrived before the injury to Nile, so you are absolutely right in saying he was probably bought in as back-up and one to develop for the future, Unfortunately I don;t know how they will ever get Michael to jump as high as another Geordie by the name of Peter Noble unless they put a trampoline in the box and it's very rare for big guys to have all the attributes of natural ball control, pace and good in the air. Probably Martin Chivers came close to being one of the best big guys for saints, Spurs and England and in today's world Lambert does well, but he's had to develop since his early days at the Gas.
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....[/p][/quote]Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game. It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly[/p][/quote]Sorry OTR I wasn't implying you were copying his words - quite the opposite. Agreed the injury to Nile has screwed us, as probably Smith was a backup option not the main man.[/p][/quote]Didn't even cross my mind you were implying I was posting Coops comments, in fact it was good to see you confirming what probably 90% of the forum know as a fact and Coops is aware of the shortfalls of our impotent strikers.. Smith arrived before the injury to Nile, so you are absolutely right in saying he was probably bought in as back-up and one to develop for the future, Unfortunately I don;t know how they will ever get Michael to jump as high as another Geordie by the name of Peter Noble unless they put a trampoline in the box and it's very rare for big guys to have all the attributes of natural ball control, pace and good in the air. Probably Martin Chivers came close to being one of the best big guys for saints, Spurs and England and in today's world Lambert does well, but he's had to develop since his early days at the Gas. old town robin
  • Score: 5

6:35pm Sat 5 Apr 14

LeGod says...

Why change a winning team. Carlisle haven't scored in 8 but manage to score against us.
Yet again we lose to a bottom four team there has to be something in our players minds that the opposition are going to be a roll over as their bottom four as we always lose
Poor result and it's games like this we should be winning or at least picking points up from.
The mentality needs to change if we want to progress.
Why change a winning team. Carlisle haven't scored in 8 but manage to score against us. Yet again we lose to a bottom four team there has to be something in our players minds that the opposition are going to be a roll over as their bottom four as we always lose Poor result and it's games like this we should be winning or at least picking points up from. The mentality needs to change if we want to progress. LeGod
  • Score: 12

6:46pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
SPOT ON OTR...
So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong..
We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all )
How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????..

I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team
Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.
Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in....

There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,,
So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue...
The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT...

With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME...
BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]SPOT ON OTR... So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong.. We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all ) How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????.. I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.[/p][/quote]Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in.... There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,, So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue... The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT... With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME... BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

6:59pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
SPOT ON OTR...
So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong..
We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all )
How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????..

I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team
Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.
Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in....

There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,,
So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue...
The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT...

With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME...
BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know
Dazza I think you are in the 'no matter what happens it's MC's fault' camp . Each has their own opinion and I respect that - but not necessarily agree.
I think all things considered since day one he has tried to do the best he can, mistakes yes, but those who never made mistakes as they say, have never done anything.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]SPOT ON OTR... So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong.. We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all ) How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????.. I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.[/p][/quote]Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in.... There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,, So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue... The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT... With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME... BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know[/p][/quote]Dazza I think you are in the 'no matter what happens it's MC's fault' camp . Each has their own opinion and I respect that - but not necessarily agree. I think all things considered since day one he has tried to do the best he can, mistakes yes, but those who never made mistakes as they say, have never done anything. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 4

7:29pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
SPOT ON OTR...
So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong..
We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all )
How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????..

I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team
Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.
Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in....

There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,,
So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue...
The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT...

With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME...
BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know
Dazza I think you are in the 'no matter what happens it's MC's fault' camp . Each has their own opinion and I respect that - but not necessarily agree.
I think all things considered since day one he has tried to do the best he can, mistakes yes, but those who never made mistakes as they say, have never done anything.
who said that then ???
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]SPOT ON OTR... So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong.. We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all ) How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????.. I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.[/p][/quote]Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in.... There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,, So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue... The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT... With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME... BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know[/p][/quote]Dazza I think you are in the 'no matter what happens it's MC's fault' camp . Each has their own opinion and I respect that - but not necessarily agree. I think all things considered since day one he has tried to do the best he can, mistakes yes, but those who never made mistakes as they say, have never done anything.[/p][/quote]who said that then ??? dazzastfc
  • Score: -1

8:20pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
SPOT ON OTR...
So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong..
We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all )
How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????..

I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team
Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.
Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in....

There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,,
So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue...
The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT...

With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME...
BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know
Dazza I think you are in the 'no matter what happens it's MC's fault' camp . Each has their own opinion and I respect that - but not necessarily agree.
I think all things considered since day one he has tried to do the best he can, mistakes yes, but those who never made mistakes as they say, have never done anything.
who said that then ???
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.”

― Albert Einstein

So I did misquote sorry , but hey same meaning as far as I'm concerned.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]SPOT ON OTR... So much for cooper proven the moaning fans wrong.. We win 3 games then SOME silly people thinks he is a proven manager and the right man to take STFC forward..(WELL SOME DO not all ) How may games have we lost to the bottom teams this season?????.. I bet he blames it on the players being a young work in progress team[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong Dazza, but MC's interview on radio pointed the blame towards the 2 forwards not holding the ball and not getting it in the onion bag.- where as Madine did for them.[/p][/quote]Did not listen to the interview as cooper does my head in.... There goal came from BAD defending and wes made some very good saves as well to keep it at 1,, So it just goes to show that the man has not got a clue... The strikers we have are division 3 players NOT c/ship or anything in that class so that means they will miss a lot more than they will score, so blaming them is just bang out of order and his way of saying ITS NOT MY FAULT... With coops in charge next season we will struggle BIG TIME... BUT I said that this season and we are in the top 10 so what do I know[/p][/quote]Dazza I think you are in the 'no matter what happens it's MC's fault' camp . Each has their own opinion and I respect that - but not necessarily agree. I think all things considered since day one he has tried to do the best he can, mistakes yes, but those who never made mistakes as they say, have never done anything.[/p][/quote]who said that then ???[/p][/quote]“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” ― Albert Einstein So I did misquote sorry , but hey same meaning as far as I'm concerned. Chish and Fips
  • Score: -2

10:11pm Sat 5 Apr 14

joey butler says...

It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams. joey butler
  • Score: -10

10:54pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

...funnily enough JB ... dicks are useful ... you're not particularly

MC failed ??? thought we odds on for relegation .... Colin the Fridge great player in his day, as manager I have my doubts, coupled with costs probably a pipe dream along with Hoddle and co and all the others that get wheeled out when we lose a game.
...funnily enough JB ... dicks are useful ... you're not particularly MC failed ??? thought we odds on for relegation .... Colin the Fridge great player in his day, as manager I have my doubts, coupled with costs probably a pipe dream along with Hoddle and co and all the others that get wheeled out when we lose a game. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Sat 5 Apr 14

the wizard says...

old town robin wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....
Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game.

It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly
Just surprised the magic mushrooms took so long to materialize this evening. Tristam Wilbur Archibald Trevelyan the caravan utilizing nomadic traveler took longer than expected this evening.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....[/p][/quote]Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game. It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly[/p][/quote]Just surprised the magic mushrooms took so long to materialize this evening. Tristam Wilbur Archibald Trevelyan the caravan utilizing nomadic traveler took longer than expected this evening. the wizard
  • Score: 0

11:17pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

So Joey, 8th place in very difficult circumstances is failure? The target set for the manager was to avoid relegation and he's done that with several games to spare. Despite having a patched up squad for the whole season, Cooper has taken us to a very respectable position. He's done far better than most people believed was likely. I really don't know how you and others could have expected more.
So Joey, 8th place in very difficult circumstances is failure? The target set for the manager was to avoid relegation and he's done that with several games to spare. Despite having a patched up squad for the whole season, Cooper has taken us to a very respectable position. He's done far better than most people believed was likely. I really don't know how you and others could have expected more. Oi Den!
  • Score: 14

11:31pm Sat 5 Apr 14

bearwoodred says...

joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three?
Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt?

He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!!

Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three? Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt? He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!! Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult. bearwoodred
  • Score: 12

11:37pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
We know all about Calderwood Joey, Of course what you forget to mention is his wages, which would be far to high for us to afford.

Cooper has done a good job this this season considering many tipped us for relegation, don't forget that Cooper was thrust into the job after McDonald walked out, he had no proper pre-season to prepare and was given a very tight budget to work with. To get us this close to the play-offs and a penalty away from wembley is a pretty impressive effort. He's not going anywhere so start getting behind the team.

With the younger players that have been brought forward this season, I have a funny feeling that next season could be a great one, and I expect Cooper to be leading them forward.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]We know all about Calderwood Joey, Of course what you forget to mention is his wages, which would be far to high for us to afford. Cooper has done a good job this this season considering many tipped us for relegation, don't forget that Cooper was thrust into the job after McDonald walked out, he had no proper pre-season to prepare and was given a very tight budget to work with. To get us this close to the play-offs and a penalty away from wembley is a pretty impressive effort. He's not going anywhere so start getting behind the team. With the younger players that have been brought forward this season, I have a funny feeling that next season could be a great one, and I expect Cooper to be leading them forward. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 8

11:50pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

DS, surely we were two penalties away from Wembley, not one? We went out because we lost the shootout by one. To go through we would have had to win by one. That's a difference of two. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the competition anyway. If they did, they wouldn't wait until the latter stages before deciding to support it.
DS, surely we were two penalties away from Wembley, not one? We went out because we lost the shootout by one. To go through we would have had to win by one. That's a difference of two. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the competition anyway. If they did, they wouldn't wait until the latter stages before deciding to support it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

12:34am Sun 6 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
DS, surely we were two penalties away from Wembley, not one? We went out because we lost the shootout by one. To go through we would have had to win by one. That's a difference of two. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the competition anyway. If they did, they wouldn't wait until the latter stages before deciding to support it.
Splitting straws a bit Den, but fair enough, we were 2 penalties away from wembley. You could say the same about the FA and League cup when it comes to support, not many turn out until we get a big draw. The revenue for getting to Wembley is enough to make the competition important to any team in the lower divisions.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: DS, surely we were two penalties away from Wembley, not one? We went out because we lost the shootout by one. To go through we would have had to win by one. That's a difference of two. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the competition anyway. If they did, they wouldn't wait until the latter stages before deciding to support it.[/p][/quote]Splitting straws a bit Den, but fair enough, we were 2 penalties away from wembley. You could say the same about the FA and League cup when it comes to support, not many turn out until we get a big draw. The revenue for getting to Wembley is enough to make the competition important to any team in the lower divisions. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 3

8:01am Sun 6 Apr 14

whitety says...

Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.
Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys. whitety
  • Score: 13

8:40am Sun 6 Apr 14

umpcah says...

whitety wrote:
Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.
So sorry to read about your displeasure after making a long journey ! I suspect that had Nile played and scored a winning goal during the last ten minutes you would`ve been very much happier today ! Carlisle badly needed three points and I think we all have to give them credit for stopping our lads from taking over up there. Hope you enjoy the next match and thanks for not going on about the play-offs !
[quote][p][bold]whitety[/bold] wrote: Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.[/p][/quote]So sorry to read about your displeasure after making a long journey ! I suspect that had Nile played and scored a winning goal during the last ten minutes you would`ve been very much happier today ! Carlisle badly needed three points and I think we all have to give them credit for stopping our lads from taking over up there. Hope you enjoy the next match and thanks for not going on about the play-offs ! umpcah
  • Score: 0

8:41am Sun 6 Apr 14

alchafreds says...

bearwoodred wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three?
Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt?

He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!!

Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.
to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000
im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money
not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three? Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt? He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!! Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.[/p][/quote]to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000 im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself alchafreds
  • Score: 1

8:42am Sun 6 Apr 14

red white says...

old town robin wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence..

Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder.

Rant over, another weekend spoilt
Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....
Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game.

It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly
Sorry OTR I wasn't implying you were copying his words - quite the opposite.
Agreed the injury to Nile has screwed us, as probably Smith was a backup option not the main man.
Didn't even cross my mind you were implying I was posting Coops comments, in fact it was good to see you confirming what probably 90% of the forum know as a fact and Coops is aware of the shortfalls of our impotent strikers..

Smith arrived before the injury to Nile, so you are absolutely right in saying he was probably bought in as back-up and one to develop for the future, Unfortunately I don;t know how they will ever get Michael to jump as high as another Geordie by the name of Peter Noble unless they put a trampoline in the box and it's very rare for big guys to have all the attributes of natural ball control, pace and good in the air. Probably Martin Chivers came close to being one of the best big guys for saints, Spurs and England and in today's world Lambert does well, but he's had to develop since his early days at the Gas.
Peter Noble bring him back,or Peter Eastoe.

Strikers we have loved at the Town.

Names please...
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Hugely disappointing result, especially given that Posh were well beaten. Maybe Mr Cooper can explain why he changed a winning team to bring Luango back in, All season we have been saying our midfield is too lightweight and what does he do, drop the only guy we have over 6 foot in favour of a player that is not renowned for getting stuck in and helping in defence.. Add to that they have Gary Madden leading their line, we have Michael Smith, says it all really, no threat from him or Storey up front = no goals, no chance of winning games against relegation fodder. Rant over, another weekend spoilt[/p][/quote]Listening to MC on the radio just there was an echo of your words... what I've seen of M Smith his lack of ball control is a major issue, and according to others he gets out jumped.- sounds like a carbon copy of that Magera PDC brought in as his 'blow yer socks off player' ....[/p][/quote]Chish, I haven't heard Coops radio interview but at least he seems to have stated the obvious that when we create chances, we can't finish them, so we have a fundamental problem to winning a game. It's just a shame after the injury to Nile, we couldn't have got someone in that does know how to finish when chances come their way. I'm sure Coops and Power tried to get the right player, but it wasn't to be and have to accept we have done our best in getting by with inexperience and lack of nous up front that has proved to be costly[/p][/quote]Sorry OTR I wasn't implying you were copying his words - quite the opposite. Agreed the injury to Nile has screwed us, as probably Smith was a backup option not the main man.[/p][/quote]Didn't even cross my mind you were implying I was posting Coops comments, in fact it was good to see you confirming what probably 90% of the forum know as a fact and Coops is aware of the shortfalls of our impotent strikers.. Smith arrived before the injury to Nile, so you are absolutely right in saying he was probably bought in as back-up and one to develop for the future, Unfortunately I don;t know how they will ever get Michael to jump as high as another Geordie by the name of Peter Noble unless they put a trampoline in the box and it's very rare for big guys to have all the attributes of natural ball control, pace and good in the air. Probably Martin Chivers came close to being one of the best big guys for saints, Spurs and England and in today's world Lambert does well, but he's had to develop since his early days at the Gas.[/p][/quote]Peter Noble bring him back,or Peter Eastoe. Strikers we have loved at the Town. Names please... red white
  • Score: -3

9:59am Sun 6 Apr 14

Newshoes84 says...

I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then!

Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him.

I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.
I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then! Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him. I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well. Newshoes84
  • Score: 5

10:19am Sun 6 Apr 14

mancrobin says...

alchafreds wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three?
Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt?

He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!!

Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.
to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000
im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money
not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself
Not a good comparison with PdC. He was on way more than £30k extra than Cooper, then there was the cost of his entreage. Also it was clear that to maintain the kind of form necessary to attract the extra gates, PdC spent wildly.

The only way to get sustainable success and attract fans back in the long term is to get the right management set up to build patiently. Whilst I still take some convincing, what we currently have with Power and Cooper could provide that model.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three? Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt? He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!! Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.[/p][/quote]to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000 im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself[/p][/quote]Not a good comparison with PdC. He was on way more than £30k extra than Cooper, then there was the cost of his entreage. Also it was clear that to maintain the kind of form necessary to attract the extra gates, PdC spent wildly. The only way to get sustainable success and attract fans back in the long term is to get the right management set up to build patiently. Whilst I still take some convincing, what we currently have with Power and Cooper could provide that model. mancrobin
  • Score: 6

10:41am Sun 6 Apr 14

the don69 says...

The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 5

10:53am Sun 6 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Newshoes84 wrote:
I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then!

Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him.

I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.
It's not that he made one change was the problem, in fact if he could have made a change up front, most fans would have welcomed the move, but he doesn't have a Gary Madine to bring in does he.

No, it's the change he made in midfield was the problem. I have just seen their goal on the football league show and the fact Jack Stephens couldn't prevent Madine turning and scoring a fine goal was not the cause of the problem. The goal came from Luango being a poor defender, he allowed their man to run from his own half with the ball and couldn't get close to him, in fact he stopped running when he ran out of puff, totally unfit and was hauled off after 70 minutes, he should never have started and replace a player who had been productive in a 4 match unbeaten run.. IMO Cooper made an error bringing him back in after Gladwin had shown his worth, especially against Preston, He's better in the air, better in the tackle and adds more strength to a very light weight midfield.

As you say Cooper has made mistakes and you think some of us just like to have a pop at him, well I think you are wrong there, most of the criticism is justified because the guy doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, as was the case yesterday the blame was quickly attributed to our impotent strikers missing their chances and not his tactics or team selection.

I actually agree with him that we are not good enough up front, he knew after Niles injury that was the case, but neither him or Lee Power were able to close out a loan from their list of targets. In answer to your comment could it have been better and Yes as you say things could have been so much better if we had better quality rather than quantity, half of which are just not good enough at this level.. He has said the squad will be trimmed from 35 to 20 next season, I welcome that as long as we can field a regular consistent team with the required strengths to be a real force next season.

Do agree with you that the changes we have seen in 2013 was bound to effect what happens on the field, but still feel we could have done better when you look back at some of those 16 league defeats to date.
[quote][p][bold]Newshoes84[/bold] wrote: I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then! Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him. I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.[/p][/quote]It's not that he made one change was the problem, in fact if he could have made a change up front, most fans would have welcomed the move, but he doesn't have a Gary Madine to bring in does he. No, it's the change he made in midfield was the problem. I have just seen their goal on the football league show and the fact Jack Stephens couldn't prevent Madine turning and scoring a fine goal was not the cause of the problem. The goal came from Luango being a poor defender, he allowed their man to run from his own half with the ball and couldn't get close to him, in fact he stopped running when he ran out of puff, totally unfit and was hauled off after 70 minutes, he should never have started and replace a player who had been productive in a 4 match unbeaten run.. IMO Cooper made an error bringing him back in after Gladwin had shown his worth, especially against Preston, He's better in the air, better in the tackle and adds more strength to a very light weight midfield. As you say Cooper has made mistakes and you think some of us just like to have a pop at him, well I think you are wrong there, most of the criticism is justified because the guy doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, as was the case yesterday the blame was quickly attributed to our impotent strikers missing their chances and not his tactics or team selection. I actually agree with him that we are not good enough up front, he knew after Niles injury that was the case, but neither him or Lee Power were able to close out a loan from their list of targets. In answer to your comment could it have been better and Yes as you say things could have been so much better if we had better quality rather than quantity, half of which are just not good enough at this level.. He has said the squad will be trimmed from 35 to 20 next season, I welcome that as long as we can field a regular consistent team with the required strengths to be a real force next season. Do agree with you that the changes we have seen in 2013 was bound to effect what happens on the field, but still feel we could have done better when you look back at some of those 16 league defeats to date. old town robin
  • Score: -3

11:07am Sun 6 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

alchafreds wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three?
Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt?

He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!!

Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.
to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000
im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money
not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself
Swindon's League home average attendances:

13/14 8,013 8th highest in league 3
12/13 8,963 5th highest in league 3 ply-offs
11/12 8,411 2nd highest in league 4 promoted
10/11 8,454 7th highest in league 3 relegated
9/10 8,338 8th highest in league 3 play-offs
8/9 7,499 8th highest in league 3

interesting to note that more fans watched us get relegated than to the play-offs under Wilson.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three? Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt? He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!! Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.[/p][/quote]to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000 im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself[/p][/quote]Swindon's League home average attendances: 13/14 8,013 8th highest in league 3 12/13 8,963 5th highest in league 3 ply-offs 11/12 8,411 2nd highest in league 4 promoted 10/11 8,454 7th highest in league 3 relegated 9/10 8,338 8th highest in league 3 play-offs 8/9 7,499 8th highest in league 3 interesting to note that more fans watched us get relegated than to the play-offs under Wilson. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 0

11:14am Sun 6 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
alchafreds wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three?
Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt?

He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!!

Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.
to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000
im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money
not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself
Swindon's League home average attendances:

13/14 8,013 8th highest in league 3
12/13 8,963 5th highest in league 3 ply-offs
11/12 8,411 2nd highest in league 4 promoted
10/11 8,454 7th highest in league 3 relegated
9/10 8,338 8th highest in league 3 play-offs
8/9 7,499 8th highest in league 3

interesting to note that more fans watched us get relegated than to the play-offs under Wilson.
Following on to what was said before, what was the off the field cost of getting 900 or so extra fans in on match day, between this season and last? Our losses are far less this season than last, even with the reduction of 900 fans, Unless you have a rich benefactor , clubs these days have to be ran on more business like models than before. Adding a big name manager will never be covered by the cost of the extra fans attracted at this club.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]Joey didn't it take Calderwood a few years to get promotion at Northampton? So you want Cooper out after a year how long would you give Calderwood? Three? Did he not also lose to Yeovil in the play offs when at Fores with a big ole squadt? He is about to be sacked? Not a good omen!! Careful for what you wish for and please be nice to Wiz and Chish, unecessary insult.[/p][/quote]to be fair the attendance is down at the CG this season and the average has been bolsted up with a bristol derby and a visit from chelsea, under pdc we atrractting 1000-1500 more supporters which is a lost revevue of £20-30,000 im guessing there are a few managers around that would do a job for that money not saying sack the manager just pointing out that it would pay for itself[/p][/quote]Swindon's League home average attendances: 13/14 8,013 8th highest in league 3 12/13 8,963 5th highest in league 3 ply-offs 11/12 8,411 2nd highest in league 4 promoted 10/11 8,454 7th highest in league 3 relegated 9/10 8,338 8th highest in league 3 play-offs 8/9 7,499 8th highest in league 3 interesting to note that more fans watched us get relegated than to the play-offs under Wilson.[/p][/quote]Following on to what was said before, what was the off the field cost of getting 900 or so extra fans in on match day, between this season and last? Our losses are far less this season than last, even with the reduction of 900 fans, Unless you have a rich benefactor , clubs these days have to be ran on more business like models than before. Adding a big name manager will never be covered by the cost of the extra fans attracted at this club. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

12:01pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

whitety wrote:
Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.
Amazing how someone can travel hundreds of miles to watch the Town, come home and post his thoughts and get thumbs down for it! I wonder how many of your critics went yesterday?

I wasn't there so can't comment on the performance but your post seems to be an honest account of the game. It's backed up by other report too. All very disappointing. From your account, it sounds like the players either thought they could stroll to a win or just weren't bothered. Either is unacceptable.

You're spot on when you say we're not good enough to play the ball around in our own half. It's the biggest reason we had such a long poor spell. However, unlike you, I don't blame the manager. I'll judge him at Christmas if he's been able to put his own squad together and employ his own style of play. People can deny it if they want but Power and McCrory did insist on this tedious style of play. It was the "remit". It did seem that Cooper had managed to shake that off. Maybe he has and the players just let him down yesterday.

And the gloves - yes, absolutely pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]whitety[/bold] wrote: Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.[/p][/quote]Amazing how someone can travel hundreds of miles to watch the Town, come home and post his thoughts and get thumbs down for it! I wonder how many of your critics went yesterday? I wasn't there so can't comment on the performance but your post seems to be an honest account of the game. It's backed up by other report too. All very disappointing. From your account, it sounds like the players either thought they could stroll to a win or just weren't bothered. Either is unacceptable. You're spot on when you say we're not good enough to play the ball around in our own half. It's the biggest reason we had such a long poor spell. However, unlike you, I don't blame the manager. I'll judge him at Christmas if he's been able to put his own squad together and employ his own style of play. People can deny it if they want but Power and McCrory did insist on this tedious style of play. It was the "remit". It did seem that Cooper had managed to shake that off. Maybe he has and the players just let him down yesterday. And the gloves - yes, absolutely pathetic. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

12:16pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Newshoes84 says...

old town robin wrote:
Newshoes84 wrote:
I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then!

Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him.

I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.
It's not that he made one change was the problem, in fact if he could have made a change up front, most fans would have welcomed the move, but he doesn't have a Gary Madine to bring in does he.

No, it's the change he made in midfield was the problem. I have just seen their goal on the football league show and the fact Jack Stephens couldn't prevent Madine turning and scoring a fine goal was not the cause of the problem. The goal came from Luango being a poor defender, he allowed their man to run from his own half with the ball and couldn't get close to him, in fact he stopped running when he ran out of puff, totally unfit and was hauled off after 70 minutes, he should never have started and replace a player who had been productive in a 4 match unbeaten run.. IMO Cooper made an error bringing him back in after Gladwin had shown his worth, especially against Preston, He's better in the air, better in the tackle and adds more strength to a very light weight midfield.

As you say Cooper has made mistakes and you think some of us just like to have a pop at him, well I think you are wrong there, most of the criticism is justified because the guy doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, as was the case yesterday the blame was quickly attributed to our impotent strikers missing their chances and not his tactics or team selection.

I actually agree with him that we are not good enough up front, he knew after Niles injury that was the case, but neither him or Lee Power were able to close out a loan from their list of targets. In answer to your comment could it have been better and Yes as you say things could have been so much better if we had better quality rather than quantity, half of which are just not good enough at this level.. He has said the squad will be trimmed from 35 to 20 next season, I welcome that as long as we can field a regular consistent team with the required strengths to be a real force next season.

Do agree with you that the changes we have seen in 2013 was bound to effect what happens on the field, but still feel we could have done better when you look back at some of those 16 league defeats to date.
I could probably count on 1 hand the amount of times managers across the football league come out and blame themselves for their team losing a game across a whole season.

I dont think Gladwin should have been dropped yesterday, i would have put pritchard or luongo in for cox because we were badly missing an attacking player from midfield against sheffield united.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newshoes84[/bold] wrote: I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then! Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him. I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.[/p][/quote]It's not that he made one change was the problem, in fact if he could have made a change up front, most fans would have welcomed the move, but he doesn't have a Gary Madine to bring in does he. No, it's the change he made in midfield was the problem. I have just seen their goal on the football league show and the fact Jack Stephens couldn't prevent Madine turning and scoring a fine goal was not the cause of the problem. The goal came from Luango being a poor defender, he allowed their man to run from his own half with the ball and couldn't get close to him, in fact he stopped running when he ran out of puff, totally unfit and was hauled off after 70 minutes, he should never have started and replace a player who had been productive in a 4 match unbeaten run.. IMO Cooper made an error bringing him back in after Gladwin had shown his worth, especially against Preston, He's better in the air, better in the tackle and adds more strength to a very light weight midfield. As you say Cooper has made mistakes and you think some of us just like to have a pop at him, well I think you are wrong there, most of the criticism is justified because the guy doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, as was the case yesterday the blame was quickly attributed to our impotent strikers missing their chances and not his tactics or team selection. I actually agree with him that we are not good enough up front, he knew after Niles injury that was the case, but neither him or Lee Power were able to close out a loan from their list of targets. In answer to your comment could it have been better and Yes as you say things could have been so much better if we had better quality rather than quantity, half of which are just not good enough at this level.. He has said the squad will be trimmed from 35 to 20 next season, I welcome that as long as we can field a regular consistent team with the required strengths to be a real force next season. Do agree with you that the changes we have seen in 2013 was bound to effect what happens on the field, but still feel we could have done better when you look back at some of those 16 league defeats to date.[/p][/quote]I could probably count on 1 hand the amount of times managers across the football league come out and blame themselves for their team losing a game across a whole season. I dont think Gladwin should have been dropped yesterday, i would have put pritchard or luongo in for cox because we were badly missing an attacking player from midfield against sheffield united. Newshoes84
  • Score: 0

12:24pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
DS, surely we were two penalties away from Wembley, not one? We went out because we lost the shootout by one. To go through we would have had to win by one. That's a difference of two. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the competition anyway. If they did, they wouldn't wait until the latter stages before deciding to support it.
Splitting straws a bit Den, but fair enough, we were 2 penalties away from wembley. You could say the same about the FA and League cup when it comes to support, not many turn out until we get a big draw. The revenue for getting to Wembley is enough to make the competition important to any team in the lower divisions.
OK DS, I know I was nitpicking. We managed to keep Posh at bay over two games, which I think is not a bad achievement, so I of course agree with you that it was a very fine margin. I hate penalty shootouts anyway, as they have nothing to do with what's gone on before. They may be the least worst way of deciding who gets through but they're still horrible.

As for the JPT, point taken but the difference between it and the other 2 competitions is that nobody has ever really been bothered about it, whereas the Cup and the League Cup have history and tradition. Yes, the revenue from a Wembley final is useful but it's all smoke and mirrors. The money comes from fans (and non-fans) who get sucked in by the big con of the new Wembley, with it's vastly inflated prices, soulless atmosphere and hideous pre-match razzmatazz. I was cajoled into going to the final against Chesterfield but I would never go again. I want to feel gutted when the Town lose. Coming away after that game, I felt nothing more than mild disappointment. It was just a waste of money. If that makes me a lesser fan, so be it.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: DS, surely we were two penalties away from Wembley, not one? We went out because we lost the shootout by one. To go through we would have had to win by one. That's a difference of two. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the competition anyway. If they did, they wouldn't wait until the latter stages before deciding to support it.[/p][/quote]Splitting straws a bit Den, but fair enough, we were 2 penalties away from wembley. You could say the same about the FA and League cup when it comes to support, not many turn out until we get a big draw. The revenue for getting to Wembley is enough to make the competition important to any team in the lower divisions.[/p][/quote]OK DS, I know I was nitpicking. We managed to keep Posh at bay over two games, which I think is not a bad achievement, so I of course agree with you that it was a very fine margin. I hate penalty shootouts anyway, as they have nothing to do with what's gone on before. They may be the least worst way of deciding who gets through but they're still horrible. As for the JPT, point taken but the difference between it and the other 2 competitions is that nobody has ever really been bothered about it, whereas the Cup and the League Cup have history and tradition. Yes, the revenue from a Wembley final is useful but it's all smoke and mirrors. The money comes from fans (and non-fans) who get sucked in by the big con of the new Wembley, with it's vastly inflated prices, soulless atmosphere and hideous pre-match razzmatazz. I was cajoled into going to the final against Chesterfield but I would never go again. I want to feel gutted when the Town lose. Coming away after that game, I felt nothing more than mild disappointment. It was just a waste of money. If that makes me a lesser fan, so be it. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

12:32pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
Newshoes84 wrote:
I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then!

Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him.

I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.
It's not that he made one change was the problem, in fact if he could have made a change up front, most fans would have welcomed the move, but he doesn't have a Gary Madine to bring in does he.

No, it's the change he made in midfield was the problem. I have just seen their goal on the football league show and the fact Jack Stephens couldn't prevent Madine turning and scoring a fine goal was not the cause of the problem. The goal came from Luango being a poor defender, he allowed their man to run from his own half with the ball and couldn't get close to him, in fact he stopped running when he ran out of puff, totally unfit and was hauled off after 70 minutes, he should never have started and replace a player who had been productive in a 4 match unbeaten run.. IMO Cooper made an error bringing him back in after Gladwin had shown his worth, especially against Preston, He's better in the air, better in the tackle and adds more strength to a very light weight midfield.

As you say Cooper has made mistakes and you think some of us just like to have a pop at him, well I think you are wrong there, most of the criticism is justified because the guy doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, as was the case yesterday the blame was quickly attributed to our impotent strikers missing their chances and not his tactics or team selection.

I actually agree with him that we are not good enough up front, he knew after Niles injury that was the case, but neither him or Lee Power were able to close out a loan from their list of targets. In answer to your comment could it have been better and Yes as you say things could have been so much better if we had better quality rather than quantity, half of which are just not good enough at this level.. He has said the squad will be trimmed from 35 to 20 next season, I welcome that as long as we can field a regular consistent team with the required strengths to be a real force next season.

Do agree with you that the changes we have seen in 2013 was bound to effect what happens on the field, but still feel we could have done better when you look back at some of those 16 league defeats to date.
Agree with much of that OTR but if you look at some of the 16 defeats you also have to look at some of the excellent and surprising results among the 16 wins. Whichever way we cut the cake, we are really a mid-table outfit overall. I think most of us would have grabbed that with both hands at the start of the season.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newshoes84[/bold] wrote: I find it slightly funny that people are coming on here saying one of the reasons for us losing yesterday was because cooper made 1 change to the team. He changed the team in each of the previous 3 games that we won and i didnt see anyone complaining then! Yes he has made mistakes this season but some people just seem to want to latch onto any little detail to have a pop at him. I think we have had a good season, could it have been better? Yes it could but considering the amount of change at the club i think we have done well.[/p][/quote]It's not that he made one change was the problem, in fact if he could have made a change up front, most fans would have welcomed the move, but he doesn't have a Gary Madine to bring in does he. No, it's the change he made in midfield was the problem. I have just seen their goal on the football league show and the fact Jack Stephens couldn't prevent Madine turning and scoring a fine goal was not the cause of the problem. The goal came from Luango being a poor defender, he allowed their man to run from his own half with the ball and couldn't get close to him, in fact he stopped running when he ran out of puff, totally unfit and was hauled off after 70 minutes, he should never have started and replace a player who had been productive in a 4 match unbeaten run.. IMO Cooper made an error bringing him back in after Gladwin had shown his worth, especially against Preston, He's better in the air, better in the tackle and adds more strength to a very light weight midfield. As you say Cooper has made mistakes and you think some of us just like to have a pop at him, well I think you are wrong there, most of the criticism is justified because the guy doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, as was the case yesterday the blame was quickly attributed to our impotent strikers missing their chances and not his tactics or team selection. I actually agree with him that we are not good enough up front, he knew after Niles injury that was the case, but neither him or Lee Power were able to close out a loan from their list of targets. In answer to your comment could it have been better and Yes as you say things could have been so much better if we had better quality rather than quantity, half of which are just not good enough at this level.. He has said the squad will be trimmed from 35 to 20 next season, I welcome that as long as we can field a regular consistent team with the required strengths to be a real force next season. Do agree with you that the changes we have seen in 2013 was bound to effect what happens on the field, but still feel we could have done better when you look back at some of those 16 league defeats to date.[/p][/quote]Agree with much of that OTR but if you look at some of the 16 defeats you also have to look at some of the excellent and surprising results among the 16 wins. Whichever way we cut the cake, we are really a mid-table outfit overall. I think most of us would have grabbed that with both hands at the start of the season. Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

12:58pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Old-Stager, Hilperton says...

At the beginning of the season Yaser Kasim and Massimo Loungo were the shining stars of our team, and you would have imagined that as the season progressed both players would improve beyond recognition.
What has actually happened is the complete reverse. - If we paid Tottenham £400,000 for Loungo we were definitely stitched up, and Kasim's current form is so bad that I am surprised he is still selected to play.
Give me Louis Thompson and Ben Gladwin for the last five games of the season instead of Massimo and Yaser, and let these two have a good rest on the bench.
Yesterday's result was extremely disappointing to say the least, after such an impressive recent run of results.
At the beginning of the season Yaser Kasim and Massimo Loungo were the shining stars of our team, and you would have imagined that as the season progressed both players would improve beyond recognition. What has actually happened is the complete reverse. - If we paid Tottenham £400,000 for Loungo we were definitely stitched up, and Kasim's current form is so bad that I am surprised he is still selected to play. Give me Louis Thompson and Ben Gladwin for the last five games of the season instead of Massimo and Yaser, and let these two have a good rest on the bench. Yesterday's result was extremely disappointing to say the least, after such an impressive recent run of results. Old-Stager, Hilperton
  • Score: 6

1:29pm Sun 6 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
whitety wrote:
Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.
Amazing how someone can travel hundreds of miles to watch the Town, come home and post his thoughts and get thumbs down for it! I wonder how many of your critics went yesterday?

I wasn't there so can't comment on the performance but your post seems to be an honest account of the game. It's backed up by other report too. All very disappointing. From your account, it sounds like the players either thought they could stroll to a win or just weren't bothered. Either is unacceptable.

You're spot on when you say we're not good enough to play the ball around in our own half. It's the biggest reason we had such a long poor spell. However, unlike you, I don't blame the manager. I'll judge him at Christmas if he's been able to put his own squad together and employ his own style of play. People can deny it if they want but Power and McCrory did insist on this tedious style of play. It was the "remit". It did seem that Cooper had managed to shake that off. Maybe he has and the players just let him down yesterday.

And the gloves - yes, absolutely pathetic.
Whitety got thumbs up Den! I'll have to give you thumbs down for your rant now lol!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whitety[/bold] wrote: Well where do i start yes i was at the match yesterday, as i have said before tatics there are none, the great wes hangs on to the ball to long before clearing it, ie goal kicks needs to get on with the game. we are not good enough to play the ball around in our own half , we dont have any service what so ever to the strikers, we win a corner eight players stood out side the box, we defend a corner we ball watch we are slow unfit tired, call it what you want but those players out there were not interested in any thing except looking pretty with there fancy hair cuts .15 degrees outside temprature warm what do have players walking not running wearing gloves man up or ship out its nearly summer, all in all very poor ,no effort cannot pass the ball to one another from 12 yards sorry get a proper manager and a fitness coach an attacking midfielder and a few men not boys.[/p][/quote]Amazing how someone can travel hundreds of miles to watch the Town, come home and post his thoughts and get thumbs down for it! I wonder how many of your critics went yesterday? I wasn't there so can't comment on the performance but your post seems to be an honest account of the game. It's backed up by other report too. All very disappointing. From your account, it sounds like the players either thought they could stroll to a win or just weren't bothered. Either is unacceptable. You're spot on when you say we're not good enough to play the ball around in our own half. It's the biggest reason we had such a long poor spell. However, unlike you, I don't blame the manager. I'll judge him at Christmas if he's been able to put his own squad together and employ his own style of play. People can deny it if they want but Power and McCrory did insist on this tedious style of play. It was the "remit". It did seem that Cooper had managed to shake that off. Maybe he has and the players just let him down yesterday. And the gloves - yes, absolutely pathetic.[/p][/quote]Whitety got thumbs up Den! I'll have to give you thumbs down for your rant now lol!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

2:01pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Haha! He was on a net minus when I posted, Don. Glad to see he's now getting some respect!
Haha! He was on a net minus when I posted, Don. Glad to see he's now getting some respect! Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

2:03pm Sun 6 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Old Stager, absolutely well said, my thoughts and feelings exactly, too many pretty boys. Gladwin may have as yet not developed the nicer part and more technical skills of his game, still a bit raw around the edges, but perfect in what he does. Endless running, tracking back, surging forward, and running at players frightening the bits out of them. Yes give me that all day long, because it spells desire and commitment. Wearing gloves in April, pansies !

Whitety, good man, you made the journey, came back and told us what you saw, and I'm grateful. I think what you are trying to say is, they need their wrists cable tied to their ankles and their back sides kicking for a totally inept display which brought wholesale displeasure to the traveling Red Army. Obviously there are some that couldn't give a guff. Shame Cooper isn't a bit more like Pulis, he got that lazy bunch singing off his sheet and now they are starting to play a bit. Our pendulum has swung totally away from the PDC fitness demand, but at least most could play the 90+ to the final whistle and still look good. I think Cooper is too soft on them. Luongo obviously not fit enough according to a mate that went, and looked out of sorts.
Old Stager, absolutely well said, my thoughts and feelings exactly, too many pretty boys. Gladwin may have as yet not developed the nicer part and more technical skills of his game, still a bit raw around the edges, but perfect in what he does. Endless running, tracking back, surging forward, and running at players frightening the bits out of them. Yes give me that all day long, because it spells desire and commitment. Wearing gloves in April, pansies ! Whitety, good man, you made the journey, came back and told us what you saw, and I'm grateful. I think what you are trying to say is, they need their wrists cable tied to their ankles and their back sides kicking for a totally inept display which brought wholesale displeasure to the traveling Red Army. Obviously there are some that couldn't give a guff. Shame Cooper isn't a bit more like Pulis, he got that lazy bunch singing off his sheet and now they are starting to play a bit. Our pendulum has swung totally away from the PDC fitness demand, but at least most could play the 90+ to the final whistle and still look good. I think Cooper is too soft on them. Luongo obviously not fit enough according to a mate that went, and looked out of sorts. the wizard
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Sun 6 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

3:38pm Sun 6 Apr 14

the don69 says...

dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Sun 6 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .
I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity . lifelong red
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Sun 6 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

lifelong red wrote:
I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .
I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .[/p][/quote]I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 3

4:55pm Sun 6 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

the don69 wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving
A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ??? dazzastfc
  • Score: -1

4:58pm Sun 6 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
If we play a more consistent line and system (this one!) then i think we will do ok.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]If we play a more consistent line and system (this one!) then i think we will do ok. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Sun 6 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving
A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???
As it stands who is going back next year?
Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss.
Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???[/p][/quote]As it stands who is going back next year? Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss. Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Sun 6 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving
A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???
As it stands who is going back next year?
Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss.
Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.
I thought wolves were after pritch ?? and Huddersfield.
Cant see him being here but lets hope he is BUT he needs to lose the big head and learn a bit of discipline...
Mason ??? as you said sick note
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???[/p][/quote]As it stands who is going back next year? Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss. Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.[/p][/quote]I thought wolves were after pritch ?? and Huddersfield. Cant see him being here but lets hope he is BUT he needs to lose the big head and learn a bit of discipline... Mason ??? as you said sick note dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Sun 6 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

dazzastfc wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving
A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???
As it stands who is going back next year?
Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss.
Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.
I thought wolves were after pritch ?? and Huddersfield.
Cant see him being here but lets hope he is BUT he needs to lose the big head and learn a bit of discipline...
Mason ??? as you said sick note
I think Cooper said on this site yesterday that he was looking forward to working with Pritchard in the pre-season,something like that, whether that was said in hope i don't know.
We had no pre-season this year, it was a complete mish-mash on and off the field wasn't it?
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???[/p][/quote]As it stands who is going back next year? Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss. Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.[/p][/quote]I thought wolves were after pritch ?? and Huddersfield. Cant see him being here but lets hope he is BUT he needs to lose the big head and learn a bit of discipline... Mason ??? as you said sick note[/p][/quote]I think Cooper said on this site yesterday that he was looking forward to working with Pritchard in the pre-season,something like that, whether that was said in hope i don't know. We had no pre-season this year, it was a complete mish-mash on and off the field wasn't it? swwindon61uk
  • Score: -1

5:47pm Sun 6 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .
I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.
Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .[/p][/quote]I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.[/p][/quote]Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block. lifelong red
  • Score: 0

6:08pm Sun 6 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving
A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???
As it stands who is going back next year?
Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss.
Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.
I would flog my missus to the highest bidder, just to have both Stephens and Pritch here for next season.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???[/p][/quote]As it stands who is going back next year? Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss. Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.[/p][/quote]I would flog my missus to the highest bidder, just to have both Stephens and Pritch here for next season. lifelong red
  • Score: -7

8:53pm Sun 6 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

lifelong red wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
the don69 wrote:
The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress...
What is the starting team as it stands for next season....

Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we..
I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff...

STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems
Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!!
All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving
A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???
As it stands who is going back next year?
Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss.
Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.
I would flog my missus to the highest bidder, just to have both Stephens and Pritch here for next season.
WHY all the dislikes for someone who wants Stephens and Pritch here for next season.

WHAT A STRANGE LOT SOME OF YOU ARE...

Lifelong red I HOPE YOUR RIGHT by the way I would flog mine just for the hell of it
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The play-off's were always a distant dream chaps, we are what we are a mid-table side! and a work in progress, building for next season should start with Ranger being signed asap! there are big question marks over Storey,Smith and Barker being good enough to partner Ranger up front(if we're talking promotion next term) Coops has done well this term,but the real work for him and Power start now! who they sign and loan will be critical to our chances of a serious promotion challenge or not!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I still dont see how we are a team that are work in progress... What is the starting team as it stands for next season.... Please tell me as I think the club dont know so how can we.. I know we have players on contracts but if power and coops think they are good enough or the answer then we are in the smelly brown stuff... STILL WONDERING WHY GLADWIN WAS DROPPED as he likes to run at the defence and cause them lots of problems[/p][/quote]Don't forget Dazza, this side was thrown together at the start of the season! Coops took over and is inexperianced,it takes time to build a good strong squad, having learned a lot this season there will be no excuses for Power&Coops next season!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]All i was on about is what team at this point do we have for next season...Loans going back players leaving A VERY POOR work in progress IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS ???[/p][/quote]As it stands who is going back next year? Pritchard has been indicated he is staying, so that leaves Stephens. Mason and Hall and of those 3 right now Stephens obviously will be the biggest miss. Mason if he can stay free from injury would be a good loan again IMO.[/p][/quote]I would flog my missus to the highest bidder, just to have both Stephens and Pritch here for next season.[/p][/quote]WHY all the dislikes for someone who wants Stephens and Pritch here for next season. WHAT A STRANGE LOT SOME OF YOU ARE... Lifelong red I HOPE YOUR RIGHT by the way I would flog mine just for the hell of it dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

9:40pm Sun 6 Apr 14

joey butler says...

joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! joey butler
  • Score: -2

9:42pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

lifelong red wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .
I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.
Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.
My opinion only but I believe the financial fair play will start to be a major factor when it comes to contracts. I believe more players will take lower contracts rather than take the risk that a better one will come along. Clubs can no longer afford big contracts unless they have a decent income or a rich benefactor that is prepared to cover the losses. Even when the benefactor has massive funds the losses are being limited and the likes of Man City/Chelski will have to sell to bring in new faces.

Excellent news IMO as it will see youngsters being given a chance and, players that have done good, relying on a transfer bid.

Put yourself in Troy's position. Take a contract at a lower rate to previously or take a risk that someone will offer better. IMO the days of player power are diminishing.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .[/p][/quote]I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.[/p][/quote]Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.[/p][/quote]My opinion only but I believe the financial fair play will start to be a major factor when it comes to contracts. I believe more players will take lower contracts rather than take the risk that a better one will come along. Clubs can no longer afford big contracts unless they have a decent income or a rich benefactor that is prepared to cover the losses. Even when the benefactor has massive funds the losses are being limited and the likes of Man City/Chelski will have to sell to bring in new faces. Excellent news IMO as it will see youngsters being given a chance and, players that have done good, relying on a transfer bid. Put yourself in Troy's position. Take a contract at a lower rate to previously or take a risk that someone will offer better. IMO the days of player power are diminishing. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

10:23pm Sun 6 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .
I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.
Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.
My opinion only but I believe the financial fair play will start to be a major factor when it comes to contracts. I believe more players will take lower contracts rather than take the risk that a better one will come along. Clubs can no longer afford big contracts unless they have a decent income or a rich benefactor that is prepared to cover the losses. Even when the benefactor has massive funds the losses are being limited and the likes of Man City/Chelski will have to sell to bring in new faces.

Excellent news IMO as it will see youngsters being given a chance and, players that have done good, relying on a transfer bid.

Put yourself in Troy's position. Take a contract at a lower rate to previously or take a risk that someone will offer better. IMO the days of player power are diminishing.

COYMR
Yes take your point about troy excepting a contract at a lower rate , but then you have to consider his continuous injury woes - do we take the risk or don't we ? . Tough decision the club will have to make , as well as Nile for different reasons . Personally would love to see them both here next season , don't think they have been in the side at the same time yet . Think how it would benefit the team if only they could free themselves of their respective problems.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .[/p][/quote]I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.[/p][/quote]Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.[/p][/quote]My opinion only but I believe the financial fair play will start to be a major factor when it comes to contracts. I believe more players will take lower contracts rather than take the risk that a better one will come along. Clubs can no longer afford big contracts unless they have a decent income or a rich benefactor that is prepared to cover the losses. Even when the benefactor has massive funds the losses are being limited and the likes of Man City/Chelski will have to sell to bring in new faces. Excellent news IMO as it will see youngsters being given a chance and, players that have done good, relying on a transfer bid. Put yourself in Troy's position. Take a contract at a lower rate to previously or take a risk that someone will offer better. IMO the days of player power are diminishing. COYMR[/p][/quote]Yes take your point about troy excepting a contract at a lower rate , but then you have to consider his continuous injury woes - do we take the risk or don't we ? . Tough decision the club will have to make , as well as Nile for different reasons . Personally would love to see them both here next season , don't think they have been in the side at the same time yet . Think how it would benefit the team if only they could free themselves of their respective problems. lifelong red
  • Score: 0

10:37pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!
Joey,

Can we please drop this "Cheap option". Much as I admired Colin when he played for Town we had to, and even more now, live within our means. FL rules dictate that only 60% of income can be spent on wages etc unless the club has a benefactor to subsidise losses and those losses now have boundaries (as Chelski and Man City will discover)

IMO too much is spent subsidising football and to pay extra for a manager (that will not necessarily bring success) is a big risk.

I recently visited Germany, where all is well and good apparently, but in reality many of their teams are owned by company's, hence Bayer Leverkusen. These company's also supported other sports clubs, especially those local to their bases, and you would find Bayer ...clubs all over. You still do find these clubs but to fund the 20+ footballers the money available for local clubs has been seriously reduced to fund football.

Does football deserve the money or should clubs be run more frugally. I know Town cannot be compared to Bayer teams but it does make you wonder if the "Champions League" concept has had a detrimental effect on local sport and now Platini is trying to rectify this to an extent

Sorry to go on but the throw away line "Cheap option" narks me when we support a clubs that is not awash with funds.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Can we please drop this "Cheap option". Much as I admired Colin when he played for Town we had to, and even more now, live within our means. FL rules dictate that only 60% of income can be spent on wages etc unless the club has a benefactor to subsidise losses and those losses now have boundaries (as Chelski and Man City will discover) IMO too much is spent subsidising football and to pay extra for a manager (that will not necessarily bring success) is a big risk. I recently visited Germany, where all is well and good apparently, but in reality many of their teams are owned by company's, hence Bayer Leverkusen. These company's also supported other sports clubs, especially those local to their bases, and you would find Bayer ...clubs all over. You still do find these clubs but to fund the 20+ footballers the money available for local clubs has been seriously reduced to fund football. Does football deserve the money or should clubs be run more frugally. I know Town cannot be compared to Bayer teams but it does make you wonder if the "Champions League" concept has had a detrimental effect on local sport and now Platini is trying to rectify this to an extent Sorry to go on but the throw away line "Cheap option" narks me when we support a clubs that is not awash with funds. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

10:42pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!
Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

lifelong red wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .
I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.
Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.
My opinion only but I believe the financial fair play will start to be a major factor when it comes to contracts. I believe more players will take lower contracts rather than take the risk that a better one will come along. Clubs can no longer afford big contracts unless they have a decent income or a rich benefactor that is prepared to cover the losses. Even when the benefactor has massive funds the losses are being limited and the likes of Man City/Chelski will have to sell to bring in new faces.

Excellent news IMO as it will see youngsters being given a chance and, players that have done good, relying on a transfer bid.

Put yourself in Troy's position. Take a contract at a lower rate to previously or take a risk that someone will offer better. IMO the days of player power are diminishing.

COYMR
Yes take your point about troy excepting a contract at a lower rate , but then you have to consider his continuous injury woes - do we take the risk or don't we ? . Tough decision the club will have to make , as well as Nile for different reasons . Personally would love to see them both here next season , don't think they have been in the side at the same time yet . Think how it would benefit the team if only they could free themselves of their respective problems.
Absolutely, how long term is the injury. I believe O'Hanlon who played against us on Saturday had a serious injury while at Town but now plays regularly. Are the precautions with Troy to aid recovery ?

I do however believe that wage demands will not be as much of an issue unless a player is much, much better than the level he is at. Nile is a good example as Nadine probably is (interesting connection).

I think we may start to see more, paid for, transfers in the future as teams want players and cannot afford to wait for contracts to expire. Just a feeling but maybe we will see a return to player commitment to clubs.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I think we all agree that Nathan Thompson is a very talented young player. However I don't see him as a captain or leader at this point in his young career .The fact he was given the role , just underlines the lack of leadership in the present team. If we are going to build a team based mainly on youth ,and if we have our sights set on success next season, then 1 or 2 players of experience and leadership , in my view will be a necessity .[/p][/quote]I know Troy is also young but i would give him the Captaincy next year.[/p][/quote]Yes I think he would make a good captain, but then his injury problems , and wages issue could be the stumbling block.[/p][/quote]My opinion only but I believe the financial fair play will start to be a major factor when it comes to contracts. I believe more players will take lower contracts rather than take the risk that a better one will come along. Clubs can no longer afford big contracts unless they have a decent income or a rich benefactor that is prepared to cover the losses. Even when the benefactor has massive funds the losses are being limited and the likes of Man City/Chelski will have to sell to bring in new faces. Excellent news IMO as it will see youngsters being given a chance and, players that have done good, relying on a transfer bid. Put yourself in Troy's position. Take a contract at a lower rate to previously or take a risk that someone will offer better. IMO the days of player power are diminishing. COYMR[/p][/quote]Yes take your point about troy excepting a contract at a lower rate , but then you have to consider his continuous injury woes - do we take the risk or don't we ? . Tough decision the club will have to make , as well as Nile for different reasons . Personally would love to see them both here next season , don't think they have been in the side at the same time yet . Think how it would benefit the team if only they could free themselves of their respective problems.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, how long term is the injury. I believe O'Hanlon who played against us on Saturday had a serious injury while at Town but now plays regularly. Are the precautions with Troy to aid recovery ? I do however believe that wage demands will not be as much of an issue unless a player is much, much better than the level he is at. Nile is a good example as Nadine probably is (interesting connection). I think we may start to see more, paid for, transfers in the future as teams want players and cannot afford to wait for contracts to expire. Just a feeling but maybe we will see a return to player commitment to clubs. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Sun 6 Apr 14

joey butler says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!
Joey,

Can we please drop this "Cheap option". Much as I admired Colin when he played for Town we had to, and even more now, live within our means. FL rules dictate that only 60% of income can be spent on wages etc unless the club has a benefactor to subsidise losses and those losses now have boundaries (as Chelski and Man City will discover)

IMO too much is spent subsidising football and to pay extra for a manager (that will not necessarily bring success) is a big risk.

I recently visited Germany, where all is well and good apparently, but in reality many of their teams are owned by company's, hence Bayer Leverkusen. These company's also supported other sports clubs, especially those local to their bases, and you would find Bayer ...clubs all over. You still do find these clubs but to fund the 20+ footballers the money available for local clubs has been seriously reduced to fund football.

Does football deserve the money or should clubs be run more frugally. I know Town cannot be compared to Bayer teams but it does make you wonder if the "Champions League" concept has had a detrimental effect on local sport and now Platini is trying to rectify this to an extent

Sorry to go on but the throw away line "Cheap option" narks me when we support a clubs that is not awash with funds.

COYMR
A very fair comment Oxon, but how do you or I really know if we can or cannot afford the likes of Calderwood please?
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Can we please drop this "Cheap option". Much as I admired Colin when he played for Town we had to, and even more now, live within our means. FL rules dictate that only 60% of income can be spent on wages etc unless the club has a benefactor to subsidise losses and those losses now have boundaries (as Chelski and Man City will discover) IMO too much is spent subsidising football and to pay extra for a manager (that will not necessarily bring success) is a big risk. I recently visited Germany, where all is well and good apparently, but in reality many of their teams are owned by company's, hence Bayer Leverkusen. These company's also supported other sports clubs, especially those local to their bases, and you would find Bayer ...clubs all over. You still do find these clubs but to fund the 20+ footballers the money available for local clubs has been seriously reduced to fund football. Does football deserve the money or should clubs be run more frugally. I know Town cannot be compared to Bayer teams but it does make you wonder if the "Champions League" concept has had a detrimental effect on local sport and now Platini is trying to rectify this to an extent Sorry to go on but the throw away line "Cheap option" narks me when we support a clubs that is not awash with funds. COYMR[/p][/quote]A very fair comment Oxon, but how do you or I really know if we can or cannot afford the likes of Calderwood please? joey butler
  • Score: -1

10:59pm Sun 6 Apr 14

joey butler says...

Oi Den! wrote:
joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!
Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.
Den,

Your comments have changed very significantly in the last 12 months. You are now mainly negative in your views, having previously been very positive and you have an inclination to come out with smart comments like the one above.

What changed for you please Den?

You are a shadow of your former self and that is heavily reflected in your comments.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.[/p][/quote]Den, Your comments have changed very significantly in the last 12 months. You are now mainly negative in your views, having previously been very positive and you have an inclination to come out with smart comments like the one above. What changed for you please Den? You are a shadow of your former self and that is heavily reflected in your comments. joey butler
  • Score: -1

11:09pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

joey butler wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!
Joey,

Can we please drop this "Cheap option". Much as I admired Colin when he played for Town we had to, and even more now, live within our means. FL rules dictate that only 60% of income can be spent on wages etc unless the club has a benefactor to subsidise losses and those losses now have boundaries (as Chelski and Man City will discover)

IMO too much is spent subsidising football and to pay extra for a manager (that will not necessarily bring success) is a big risk.

I recently visited Germany, where all is well and good apparently, but in reality many of their teams are owned by company's, hence Bayer Leverkusen. These company's also supported other sports clubs, especially those local to their bases, and you would find Bayer ...clubs all over. You still do find these clubs but to fund the 20+ footballers the money available for local clubs has been seriously reduced to fund football.

Does football deserve the money or should clubs be run more frugally. I know Town cannot be compared to Bayer teams but it does make you wonder if the "Champions League" concept has had a detrimental effect on local sport and now Platini is trying to rectify this to an extent

Sorry to go on but the throw away line "Cheap option" narks me when we support a clubs that is not awash with funds.

COYMR
A very fair comment Oxon, but how do you or I really know if we can or cannot afford the likes of Calderwood please?
Joey,

Like you, I don't know if we can afford him or not. It was the reference to the "cheap option" in your post which I replied to and if Mark is the cheap option can the club afford a non-cheap option who, IMO, is not guaranteed to change matters.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Can we please drop this "Cheap option". Much as I admired Colin when he played for Town we had to, and even more now, live within our means. FL rules dictate that only 60% of income can be spent on wages etc unless the club has a benefactor to subsidise losses and those losses now have boundaries (as Chelski and Man City will discover) IMO too much is spent subsidising football and to pay extra for a manager (that will not necessarily bring success) is a big risk. I recently visited Germany, where all is well and good apparently, but in reality many of their teams are owned by company's, hence Bayer Leverkusen. These company's also supported other sports clubs, especially those local to their bases, and you would find Bayer ...clubs all over. You still do find these clubs but to fund the 20+ footballers the money available for local clubs has been seriously reduced to fund football. Does football deserve the money or should clubs be run more frugally. I know Town cannot be compared to Bayer teams but it does make you wonder if the "Champions League" concept has had a detrimental effect on local sport and now Platini is trying to rectify this to an extent Sorry to go on but the throw away line "Cheap option" narks me when we support a clubs that is not awash with funds. COYMR[/p][/quote]A very fair comment Oxon, but how do you or I really know if we can or cannot afford the likes of Calderwood please?[/p][/quote]Joey, Like you, I don't know if we can afford him or not. It was the reference to the "cheap option" in your post which I replied to and if Mark is the cheap option can the club afford a non-cheap option who, IMO, is not guaranteed to change matters. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

11:38pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

joey butler wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!
Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.
Den,

Your comments have changed very significantly in the last 12 months. You are now mainly negative in your views, having previously been very positive and you have an inclination to come out with smart comments like the one above.

What changed for you please Den?

You are a shadow of your former self and that is heavily reflected in your comments.
Joey, I am supporting our manager, who I believe has done a good job. You want him sacked because you consider 8th position to be failure. And I am the one being negative?

There is nothing smart about it. There is no vacancy. If Cooper gets a free hand next season and makes a mess of it, he will be sacked. Maybe Colin Calderwood would get the job then. Ever since he left us as a player I have believed he would be back to manage us at some time. That time is not now.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.[/p][/quote]Den, Your comments have changed very significantly in the last 12 months. You are now mainly negative in your views, having previously been very positive and you have an inclination to come out with smart comments like the one above. What changed for you please Den? You are a shadow of your former self and that is heavily reflected in your comments.[/p][/quote]Joey, I am supporting our manager, who I believe has done a good job. You want him sacked because you consider 8th position to be failure. And I am the one being negative? There is nothing smart about it. There is no vacancy. If Cooper gets a free hand next season and makes a mess of it, he will be sacked. Maybe Colin Calderwood would get the job then. Ever since he left us as a player I have believed he would be back to manage us at some time. That time is not now. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

9:37am Mon 7 Apr 14

hertz says...

OK Here goes , lot of my maes are Wolves fans course they bashed on about doing us a favour on Saturday , Then they said there is a strong rumour doing the rounds that Paolo is trying to find another club and they say he has had talks withSwindon .:0)
OK Here goes , lot of my maes are Wolves fans course they bashed on about doing us a favour on Saturday , Then they said there is a strong rumour doing the rounds that Paolo is trying to find another club and they say he has had talks withSwindon .:0) hertz
  • Score: -1

9:43am Mon 7 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

Hertz don't you know when you're being wound up?
Hertz don't you know when you're being wound up? The Jockster
  • Score: 0

10:27am Mon 7 Apr 14

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
joey butler wrote:
joey butler wrote:
It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list.

Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed.

Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!!

Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.
'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.''

My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job.

Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.
I honestly don't see Cooper being shown the door either. Opinions are still very much split on if he's the right man for the job, but it cannot be argued he has done quite well on the coaching side of the business and we have seen players like Gladwin and Barker improve since their arrival. However there is definitely a need for him to learn and improve his match day nous. (i.e. knowing the strengths and weakness of the opposition which would reflect in him using tactics that reduce the silly goals we concede and and better use of substitutions helps change games, which apparently he did try to improve Saturday, but couldn't get it totally eight because he had nobody experienced to replace one of the two up front ), Add to that the discipline has been poor, (second only to Preston) and his end of term report will be must do better next season.

There are some areas of the coaching and management that could be considered. many are not convinced about Digby, although maybe he has been learning which reflects in the performances being put in by Wes. Fitness is another concern, I don't know how hard they train, can only go by what we see on match days and some of them seem to struggle to play for 90 minutes.

The one addition i would like to see, should Tim Sherwood get sacked, which I believe he will, I would like to see him brought in as Technical director to support Cooper. With Lee Power out of the country for long periods i can see a need to have a hands on manager of his ability. I know of course the obstacles of money and dropping down to a lower level, but if he has the same vision as his mate Lee, you just never know, stranger things have happened.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: It is about time we faced reality and set aside the multiple posting dicks on here, the Wizard of Witney and Chish and Fips being at the very top of the list. Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.[/p][/quote]'' Mark Cooper has done his best but was always a cheap option for Mr Power in very difficult circumstances and has failed. Colin Calderwood will get fired as Assistant Manager of Norwich in the next two weeks and if Mr Power has genuine intentions of promotion next season, we should sign Calderwood as a real Manager, sooner rather than later!!!! Calderwood was our youngest ever captain, he was also promotion winning for Swindon Town and a star for Tottenham and Scotland. He also managed promotion winning teams.'' My above post from Saturday evening was in fact deadly accurate and as of Sunday evening, Colin Calderwood is now looking for a job. Over to you Mr Power please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !![/p][/quote]Joey, Mr Power has no vacancy to fill.[/p][/quote]I honestly don't see Cooper being shown the door either. Opinions are still very much split on if he's the right man for the job, but it cannot be argued he has done quite well on the coaching side of the business and we have seen players like Gladwin and Barker improve since their arrival. However there is definitely a need for him to learn and improve his match day nous. (i.e. knowing the strengths and weakness of the opposition which would reflect in him using tactics that reduce the silly goals we concede and and better use of substitutions helps change games, which apparently he did try to improve Saturday, but couldn't get it totally eight because he had nobody experienced to replace one of the two up front ), Add to that the discipline has been poor, (second only to Preston) and his end of term report will be must do better next season. There are some areas of the coaching and management that could be considered. many are not convinced about Digby, although maybe he has been learning which reflects in the performances being put in by Wes. Fitness is another concern, I don't know how hard they train, can only go by what we see on match days and some of them seem to struggle to play for 90 minutes. The one addition i would like to see, should Tim Sherwood get sacked, which I believe he will, I would like to see him brought in as Technical director to support Cooper. With Lee Power out of the country for long periods i can see a need to have a hands on manager of his ability. I know of course the obstacles of money and dropping down to a lower level, but if he has the same vision as his mate Lee, you just never know, stranger things have happened. old town robin
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12:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

OTR, I tend to think you're right about Sherwood getting the bullet. Not convinced we need to be looking to change anything in the management team though. We have a few good and generally reliable players - Foderingham, Stephens and the Thompson boys come to mind - but we've really been a "make do and mend" team this season. We are largely a mixture of rejects and hopefuls. Some are injury prone, some have appalling discipline, some seem uncommitted and one in particular has seemed to want his own set of rules. All these things have made life more difficult for the manager, so all in all I think it's fair to say he's done pretty well.

Coooper gets a lot of stick about not being able to change a game but in the end it all comes down to whether the players are good enough. Several of our squad are not up to it, so shuffling the pack is not necessarily going to make any difference.

Until he has a squad of players with the ability and desire to challenge for promotion, I don't think we can assess how good Cooper is as a manager. For the time being, in my view, the least he deserves is the benefit of the doubt.
OTR, I tend to think you're right about Sherwood getting the bullet. Not convinced we need to be looking to change anything in the management team though. We have a few good and generally reliable players - Foderingham, Stephens and the Thompson boys come to mind - but we've really been a "make do and mend" team this season. We are largely a mixture of rejects and hopefuls. Some are injury prone, some have appalling discipline, some seem uncommitted and one in particular has seemed to want his own set of rules. All these things have made life more difficult for the manager, so all in all I think it's fair to say he's done pretty well. Coooper gets a lot of stick about not being able to change a game but in the end it all comes down to whether the players are good enough. Several of our squad are not up to it, so shuffling the pack is not necessarily going to make any difference. Until he has a squad of players with the ability and desire to challenge for promotion, I don't think we can assess how good Cooper is as a manager. For the time being, in my view, the least he deserves is the benefit of the doubt. Oi Den!
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