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Pompey close in on Storey deal

Swindon Advertiser: Pompey close in on Storey deal Pompey close in on Storey deal

PORTSMOUTH are believed to be close to sealing a deal to bring Swindon Town striker Miles Storey to Fratton Park on a season-long loan.

There had been a two-way battle between Pompey and Shrewsbury for the young forward's signature but, as is being reported by the south coast media, it appears the former Premier League side have won the chase.

Having come through the youth system at the Country Ground, Storey has gone on to score six goals in 35 appearances for the Robins. He also spent brief loan spells at Shrewsbury and Salisbury last season.

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12:18pm Tue 24 Jun 14

nosyrudeman says...

Why let go of players when we don't know the future of the club and restraints that could happen against us. Does not make sense to me at least. We have no idea of any signings coming in. Every other club has been signing players on like there's no tomorrow. STFC are stuck in limboland. Confused.
Why let go of players when we don't know the future of the club and restraints that could happen against us. Does not make sense to me at least. We have no idea of any signings coming in. Every other club has been signing players on like there's no tomorrow. STFC are stuck in limboland. Confused. nosyrudeman
  • Score: 11

12:23pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Vulcan1 says...

'take 'to Fratton Park not 'bring'.
'take 'to Fratton Park not 'bring'. Vulcan1
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Northern Red says...

Please put two things into the deal - the ability to recall and something about not playing in the JPT as we'll end up meeting them.
Please put two things into the deal - the ability to recall and something about not playing in the JPT as we'll end up meeting them. Northern Red
  • Score: 7

2:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

avo says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Why let go of players when we don't know the future of the club and restraints that could happen against us. Does not make sense to me at least. We have no idea of any signings coming in. Every other club has been signing players on like there's no tomorrow. STFC are stuck in limboland. Confused.
We don't know correct. Those running the club might though eh?
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Why let go of players when we don't know the future of the club and restraints that could happen against us. Does not make sense to me at least. We have no idea of any signings coming in. Every other club has been signing players on like there's no tomorrow. STFC are stuck in limboland. Confused.[/p][/quote]We don't know correct. Those running the club might though eh? avo
  • Score: 7

2:40pm Tue 24 Jun 14

mikes0708 says...

Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down.

I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.
Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down. I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans. mikes0708
  • Score: -16

2:41pm Tue 24 Jun 14

MisterD says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Why let go of players when we don't know the future of the club and restraints that could happen against us. Does not make sense to me at least. We have no idea of any signings coming in. Every other club has been signing players on like there's no tomorrow. STFC are stuck in limboland. Confused.
I agree with you totally. By the end of last season, we suffered from both a player shortage, and an inability to score.

Are the Board intentionally striving for League 2?
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Why let go of players when we don't know the future of the club and restraints that could happen against us. Does not make sense to me at least. We have no idea of any signings coming in. Every other club has been signing players on like there's no tomorrow. STFC are stuck in limboland. Confused.[/p][/quote]I agree with you totally. By the end of last season, we suffered from both a player shortage, and an inability to score. Are the Board intentionally striving for League 2? MisterD
  • Score: -20

4:50pm Tue 24 Jun 14

smirg kcab says...

We will have wilma to destroy every club he plays against
We will have wilma to destroy every club he plays against smirg kcab
  • Score: -3

4:57pm Tue 24 Jun 14

bradley red 1 says...

mikes0708 wrote:
Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down.

I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.
Me too! well said.
[quote][p][bold]mikes0708[/bold] wrote: Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down. I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.[/p][/quote]Me too! well said. bradley red 1
  • Score: -13

5:46pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jillyh says...

bradley red 1 wrote:
mikes0708 wrote:
Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down.

I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.
Me too! well said.
Wish I hadn't wasted my hard earned money on season tickets
Now wait for all the "you're not a true supporter" idiots.
[quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikes0708[/bold] wrote: Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down. I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.[/p][/quote]Me too! well said.[/p][/quote]Wish I hadn't wasted my hard earned money on season tickets Now wait for all the "you're not a true supporter" idiots. jillyh
  • Score: -10

6:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

ciclosporindorset says...

jillyh wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
mikes0708 wrote:
Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down.

I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.
Me too! well said.
Wish I hadn't wasted my hard earned money on season tickets
Now wait for all the "you're not a true supporter" idiots.
Dear Jillyh
No you are not an idiot for saying what you did. I am sure you are a very good, totally anal one, but definitely not silly.
[quote][p][bold]jillyh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikes0708[/bold] wrote: Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down. I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.[/p][/quote]Me too! well said.[/p][/quote]Wish I hadn't wasted my hard earned money on season tickets Now wait for all the "you're not a true supporter" idiots.[/p][/quote]Dear Jillyh No you are not an idiot for saying what you did. I am sure you are a very good, totally anal one, but definitely not silly. ciclosporindorset
  • Score: 4

6:43pm Tue 24 Jun 14

grove red says...

I think cooper hasn't got a clue on where or how to play or fit miles in to the team would much rather have miles and willo up front next season than another season of smith up front. On the season ticket I've not renewed this season as I've got other commitments at the moment but I will be a season ticket holder next season 2015/16. Let's hope power and the snake sort out the ownership on Thursday as this could be very damaging for the seasons planning.
I think cooper hasn't got a clue on where or how to play or fit miles in to the team would much rather have miles and willo up front next season than another season of smith up front. On the season ticket I've not renewed this season as I've got other commitments at the moment but I will be a season ticket holder next season 2015/16. Let's hope power and the snake sort out the ownership on Thursday as this could be very damaging for the seasons planning. grove red
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Di kanny oh says...

I would guess if Town are willing to loan Miles out for a whole season then they must have a replacement or two. With Williams back this could be one but I just get the feeling Miles does not fit in the way we will be playing or in Coopers plans so we shall have to see. Many contracts are up in July so no need to panic just yet.
I would guess if Town are willing to loan Miles out for a whole season then they must have a replacement or two. With Williams back this could be one but I just get the feeling Miles does not fit in the way we will be playing or in Coopers plans so we shall have to see. Many contracts are up in July so no need to panic just yet. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 6

7:21pm Tue 24 Jun 14

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Relax wait until tomorrow.
Nothing to worry about yet. Don't get the uproar over Storey to be honest.
Room for improvement but a way off being a quality, consistent player.

As for not renewing season tickets the majority have and nobody will lose any sleep over those who haven't.
Make your own choices. Tesco's shopping on a Saturday not my choice however more fishing would be welcome.
Everyone has an opinion and a choice what they want to do.

Let's sign some Uraguay players. Need some bite in the team.
Relax wait until tomorrow. Nothing to worry about yet. Don't get the uproar over Storey to be honest. Room for improvement but a way off being a quality, consistent player. As for not renewing season tickets the majority have and nobody will lose any sleep over those who haven't. Make your own choices. Tesco's shopping on a Saturday not my choice however more fishing would be welcome. Everyone has an opinion and a choice what they want to do. Let's sign some Uraguay players. Need some bite in the team. TheDukeOfBanbury
  • Score: 8

7:47pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Wilesy says...

Actually think this is a good move for Storey. Whilst the potential is there for all to see, he is far from proven, despite a number of chances. History of form and injuries suggests Cooper is right in not pinning his hopes on Storey getting 20 goals or maybe even playing 20 games.

I'm pleased we haven't just sold him as we've all seen what he can do on his day, but too few and far between as in 3 seasons I can remember all 4 of his goals which isn't a great statistic.

I don't agree with the comment above that he improved under PDC, quite the opposite imo he stagnated as PDC went with experience.

Make or break time though, he has to have a good season and I really hope he does.

As for Suarez think he will be in massive trouble for that bite, third time now! World Cup over at the least if he got 7 and 10 games for the first two times!
Actually think this is a good move for Storey. Whilst the potential is there for all to see, he is far from proven, despite a number of chances. History of form and injuries suggests Cooper is right in not pinning his hopes on Storey getting 20 goals or maybe even playing 20 games. I'm pleased we haven't just sold him as we've all seen what he can do on his day, but too few and far between as in 3 seasons I can remember all 4 of his goals which isn't a great statistic. I don't agree with the comment above that he improved under PDC, quite the opposite imo he stagnated as PDC went with experience. Make or break time though, he has to have a good season and I really hope he does. As for Suarez think he will be in massive trouble for that bite, third time now! World Cup over at the least if he got 7 and 10 games for the first two times! Wilesy
  • Score: 2

7:48pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jets there'd says...

I'm sure the Club are looking at bringing players in we just down get to hear about it anymore. I personally think that the Club & local media don't have a very good relationship or we would be hearing more about what is happening. Sad really as a good rapport between both parties would be mutually beneficial, one would feed off each other.
In recent years the Adver was the main source of info about the Town but not anymore.
I'm sure the Club are looking at bringing players in we just down get to hear about it anymore. I personally think that the Club & local media don't have a very good relationship or we would be hearing more about what is happening. Sad really as a good rapport between both parties would be mutually beneficial, one would feed off each other. In recent years the Adver was the main source of info about the Town but not anymore. Jets there'd
  • Score: 1

7:58pm Tue 24 Jun 14

dazzastfc says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Relax wait until tomorrow.
Nothing to worry about yet. Don't get the uproar over Storey to be honest.
Room for improvement but a way off being a quality, consistent player.

As for not renewing season tickets the majority have and nobody will lose any sleep over those who haven't.
Make your own choices. Tesco's shopping on a Saturday not my choice however more fishing would be welcome.
Everyone has an opinion and a choice what they want to do.

Let's sign some Uraguay players. Need some bite in the team.
Were has it been reported about the season ticket sales
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: Relax wait until tomorrow. Nothing to worry about yet. Don't get the uproar over Storey to be honest. Room for improvement but a way off being a quality, consistent player. As for not renewing season tickets the majority have and nobody will lose any sleep over those who haven't. Make your own choices. Tesco's shopping on a Saturday not my choice however more fishing would be welcome. Everyone has an opinion and a choice what they want to do. Let's sign some Uraguay players. Need some bite in the team.[/p][/quote]Were has it been reported about the season ticket sales dazzastfc
  • Score: -3

8:10pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jets there'd says...

Re the Suarez incident, I think it should be "3 bites and you're out!"
Re the Suarez incident, I think it should be "3 bites and you're out!" Jets there'd
  • Score: 3

9:42pm Tue 24 Jun 14

London Red says...

Jets there'd wrote:
I'm sure the Club are looking at bringing players in we just down get to hear about it anymore. I personally think that the Club & local media don't have a very good relationship or we would be hearing more about what is happening. Sad really as a good rapport between both parties would be mutually beneficial, one would feed off each other.
In recent years the Adver was the main source of info about the Town but not anymore.
I'm glad lots of dealings are not "revealed" by the Adver - as we have seen in the past that publicising deals have caused them to be scuppered!
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I would rather hear about deals once signed - as I'm sure stuff is happening in the background - as Cooper has been talking about targets since May!!!
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Lets also also not forget the Adver haven't even reported news that has actually happened like Bartham and Waldon signing New deals!
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The Adver also don't help themselves - like the whole reveal the sponsor during a marketing campaign! - why not wait 3 days and print details of amounts etc then - all that article would have done is p1ss Power off more - and for what?????
[quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the Club are looking at bringing players in we just down get to hear about it anymore. I personally think that the Club & local media don't have a very good relationship or we would be hearing more about what is happening. Sad really as a good rapport between both parties would be mutually beneficial, one would feed off each other. In recent years the Adver was the main source of info about the Town but not anymore.[/p][/quote]I'm glad lots of dealings are not "revealed" by the Adver - as we have seen in the past that publicising deals have caused them to be scuppered! . I would rather hear about deals once signed - as I'm sure stuff is happening in the background - as Cooper has been talking about targets since May!!! . Lets also also not forget the Adver haven't even reported news that has actually happened like Bartham and Waldon signing New deals! . The Adver also don't help themselves - like the whole reveal the sponsor during a marketing campaign! - why not wait 3 days and print details of amounts etc then - all that article would have done is p1ss Power off more - and for what????? London Red
  • Score: 4

8:06am Wed 25 Jun 14

umpcah says...

So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?
So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ? umpcah
  • Score: -1

8:24am Wed 25 Jun 14

old town robin says...

Jets there'd wrote:
I'm sure the Club are looking at bringing players in we just down get to hear about it anymore. I personally think that the Club & local media don't have a very good relationship or we would be hearing more about what is happening. Sad really as a good rapport between both parties would be mutually beneficial, one would feed off each other.
In recent years the Adver was the main source of info about the Town but not anymore.
You could well be right Jed that things are happening that we are not privy too. There has been a limited amount of news coming from STFC for the obvious reason it's the summer and probably most of the staff are on holiday. But it is a valid point that things haven't been the same since the Adver was banned for leaking team selection and the question I ask is it a personal issue between Power and Moreshead or is it the newspaper in it's entirety. I think many of us would not deny Sam "the chief sports writer",can be cocky so and so at times and if Lee really doesn't want him around then he is replaceable as anyone else would be.

Would like to see it resolved as I believe the Adver has an important role to play in the community and we rely on them to feed us what is happening at the County Ground.
[quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the Club are looking at bringing players in we just down get to hear about it anymore. I personally think that the Club & local media don't have a very good relationship or we would be hearing more about what is happening. Sad really as a good rapport between both parties would be mutually beneficial, one would feed off each other. In recent years the Adver was the main source of info about the Town but not anymore.[/p][/quote]You could well be right Jed that things are happening that we are not privy too. There has been a limited amount of news coming from STFC for the obvious reason it's the summer and probably most of the staff are on holiday. But it is a valid point that things haven't been the same since the Adver was banned for leaking team selection and the question I ask is it a personal issue between Power and Moreshead or is it the newspaper in it's entirety. I think many of us would not deny Sam "the chief sports writer",can be cocky so and so at times and if Lee really doesn't want him around then he is replaceable as anyone else would be. Would like to see it resolved as I believe the Adver has an important role to play in the community and we rely on them to feed us what is happening at the County Ground. old town robin
  • Score: 0

9:03am Wed 25 Jun 14

London Red says...

umpcah wrote:
So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?
Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up!
.
We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no
.
Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532
.
4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith
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532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?[/p][/quote]Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up! . We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no . Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532 . 4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith . 532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out London Red
  • Score: 3

9:12am Wed 25 Jun 14

umpcah says...

London Red wrote:
umpcah wrote:
So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?
Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up!
.
We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no
.
Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532
.
4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith
.
532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out
Thanks L.R. for that ! Alas I`m not particularly inspired , especially up the front , but yes we have some players to run out ! Not our problem and I wish him good luck but I gather that most Leeds fans are furious about the Dave Hockaday appointment !
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?[/p][/quote]Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up! . We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no . Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532 . 4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith . 532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out[/p][/quote]Thanks L.R. for that ! Alas I`m not particularly inspired , especially up the front , but yes we have some players to run out ! Not our problem and I wish him good luck but I gather that most Leeds fans are furious about the Dave Hockaday appointment ! umpcah
  • Score: -2

9:41am Wed 25 Jun 14

Robinonfire says...

Cooper Out
Cooper Out Robinonfire
  • Score: -4

9:43am Wed 25 Jun 14

London Red says...

umpcah wrote:
London Red wrote:
umpcah wrote: So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?
Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up! . We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no . Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532 . 4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith . 532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out
Thanks L.R. for that ! Alas I`m not particularly inspired , especially up the front , but yes we have some players to run out ! Not our problem and I wish him good luck but I gather that most Leeds fans are furious about the Dave Hockaday appointment !
I did say starting point - but I do personally we only need 3 or 4 signings to have us challenge for top 6 - which is not a massive recruitment task!
.
Especially if Power has a new strategic partnership lined up!
.
Full squad - assuming Troy and Branco sign on is:
.
Wes Foderingham
Tyrell Belford
Nathan Thompson
Jack Barthram
Nathan Byrne
Matty Jones
Troy Archibald-Henville
Raphael Rossi Branco
Darren Ward
Curtis Da Costa
Massimo Luongo
Louis Thompson
Yaser Kasim
Ryan Harley
Ben Gladwin
Tijane Freitas Reis
Andy Williams
Michael Smith
George Barker
Miles Storey
Connor Waldon
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?[/p][/quote]Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up! . We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no . Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532 . 4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith . 532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out[/p][/quote]Thanks L.R. for that ! Alas I`m not particularly inspired , especially up the front , but yes we have some players to run out ! Not our problem and I wish him good luck but I gather that most Leeds fans are furious about the Dave Hockaday appointment ![/p][/quote]I did say starting point - but I do personally we only need 3 or 4 signings to have us challenge for top 6 - which is not a massive recruitment task! . Especially if Power has a new strategic partnership lined up! . Full squad - assuming Troy and Branco sign on is: . Wes Foderingham Tyrell Belford Nathan Thompson Jack Barthram Nathan Byrne Matty Jones Troy Archibald-Henville Raphael Rossi Branco Darren Ward Curtis Da Costa Massimo Luongo Louis Thompson Yaser Kasim Ryan Harley Ben Gladwin Tijane Freitas Reis Andy Williams Michael Smith George Barker Miles Storey Connor Waldon London Red
  • Score: 2

10:56am Wed 25 Jun 14

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
umpcah wrote:
London Red wrote:
umpcah wrote: So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?
Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up! . We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no . Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532 . 4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith . 532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out
Thanks L.R. for that ! Alas I`m not particularly inspired , especially up the front , but yes we have some players to run out ! Not our problem and I wish him good luck but I gather that most Leeds fans are furious about the Dave Hockaday appointment !
I did say starting point - but I do personally we only need 3 or 4 signings to have us challenge for top 6 - which is not a massive recruitment task!
.
Especially if Power has a new strategic partnership lined up!
.
Full squad - assuming Troy and Branco sign on is:
.
Wes Foderingham
Tyrell Belford
Nathan Thompson
Jack Barthram
Nathan Byrne
Matty Jones
Troy Archibald-Henville
Raphael Rossi Branco
Darren Ward
Curtis Da Costa
Massimo Luongo
Louis Thompson
Yaser Kasim
Ryan Harley
Ben Gladwin
Tijane Freitas Reis
Andy Williams
Michael Smith
George Barker
Miles Storey
Connor Waldon
Think 3 or 4 signings to challenge for top 6 is very optimistic.

As it stands we need a minimum of 6 quality signings absolute minimum just to replace the 7 first teamers who have left - Pritchard, Hall, Mason, McEveley, Stephens, Ranger and Storey. Willo would count as 1 if he stays as he didn't play last season so would be like a new player..

To then push on we would need a couple of extras, and should players leave we would need to replace them as well.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Willo, Wes, Troy and Luongo move on and Ward retire, so potentially we could need 11 new players!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: So Bartham and Waldon have signed new deals and Storey is away for a season ! I`m hazy about just who we have to run out on 9th August ! Assuming that no new players are to come in , and I hope that`s not the caser, anyone care to guess at the starting eleven ?[/p][/quote]Apart from CB - the squad is in OK shape and not sure why so many think we are struggling to put a team out - we've got over 20 signed up! . We have offered Troy and Branco a deal and obviously depending on their response will potentially alter the transfer strategy dramatically - but just like with Ward last year I'm sure Power has a plan if it is a no . Anyway team is not perfect - but is a good starting point in either 4231 or 532 . 4232 - Wes N.Thompson Troy Branco Byrne Kassim L.Thompson Tijane Luongo Williams Smith . 532 - same but Jones in as Left CB and Tijane dropping out[/p][/quote]Thanks L.R. for that ! Alas I`m not particularly inspired , especially up the front , but yes we have some players to run out ! Not our problem and I wish him good luck but I gather that most Leeds fans are furious about the Dave Hockaday appointment ![/p][/quote]I did say starting point - but I do personally we only need 3 or 4 signings to have us challenge for top 6 - which is not a massive recruitment task! . Especially if Power has a new strategic partnership lined up! . Full squad - assuming Troy and Branco sign on is: . Wes Foderingham Tyrell Belford Nathan Thompson Jack Barthram Nathan Byrne Matty Jones Troy Archibald-Henville Raphael Rossi Branco Darren Ward Curtis Da Costa Massimo Luongo Louis Thompson Yaser Kasim Ryan Harley Ben Gladwin Tijane Freitas Reis Andy Williams Michael Smith George Barker Miles Storey Connor Waldon[/p][/quote]Think 3 or 4 signings to challenge for top 6 is very optimistic. As it stands we need a minimum of 6 quality signings absolute minimum just to replace the 7 first teamers who have left - Pritchard, Hall, Mason, McEveley, Stephens, Ranger and Storey. Willo would count as 1 if he stays as he didn't play last season so would be like a new player.. To then push on we would need a couple of extras, and should players leave we would need to replace them as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see Willo, Wes, Troy and Luongo move on and Ward retire, so potentially we could need 11 new players! Wilesy
  • Score: 2

11:37am Wed 25 Jun 14

South Stand says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Cooper Out
That must be a CD you're playing because it it was vinyl it would have worn through by now.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Cooper Out[/p][/quote]That must be a CD you're playing because it it was vinyl it would have worn through by now. South Stand
  • Score: 2

11:48am Wed 25 Jun 14

Fernham Red says...

I think we need a smaller squad this season around 25 and certainly no more than 30......and I'd include 5 or 6 loanees in those figures. A little like last season 3-4 season long loans from premier teams plus 2-3 shorter term loans and see how they play out. On that basis I wouldn't think we'll be splashing out a fee on anyone untried on a permanent contract. In my opinion far better to pay for a known quantity like we did with Luongo, a few weeks/months into the new season once we 'know' how good they are. Free transfers are different altogether but bearing in mind our wage structure that means taking a gamble as we did with Ranger last season. If it's low financial risk expect us to make a couple of eyebrow raising decisions on underperforming or misbehaving players with impressive pedigree who have found themselves slip off the radar in the last couple of years. On a positive note....they probably have something to prove and will certainly not be pulling on a shirt for the money only.......

For what it's worth....Storey should stay....our top scorers last season each netted 8 and I don't see why we shouldn't give him a decent run in the first team from the start of the season (tour plus pre-season as first choice) before making up our minds about a loan switch.

If you're ready you're ready...age should not be a limiting factor.
I think we need a smaller squad this season around 25 and certainly no more than 30......and I'd include 5 or 6 loanees in those figures. A little like last season 3-4 season long loans from premier teams plus 2-3 shorter term loans and see how they play out. On that basis I wouldn't think we'll be splashing out a fee on anyone untried on a permanent contract. In my opinion far better to pay for a known quantity like we did with Luongo, a few weeks/months into the new season once we 'know' how good they are. Free transfers are different altogether but bearing in mind our wage structure that means taking a gamble as we did with Ranger last season. If it's low financial risk expect us to make a couple of eyebrow raising decisions on underperforming or misbehaving players with impressive pedigree who have found themselves slip off the radar in the last couple of years. On a positive note....they probably have something to prove and will certainly not be pulling on a shirt for the money only....... For what it's worth....Storey should stay....our top scorers last season each netted 8 and I don't see why we shouldn't give him a decent run in the first team from the start of the season (tour plus pre-season as first choice) before making up our minds about a loan switch. If you're ready you're ready...age should not be a limiting factor. Fernham Red
  • Score: 2

12:11pm Wed 25 Jun 14

umpcah says...

Fernham Red wrote:
I think we need a smaller squad this season around 25 and certainly no more than 30......and I'd include 5 or 6 loanees in those figures. A little like last season 3-4 season long loans from premier teams plus 2-3 shorter term loans and see how they play out. On that basis I wouldn't think we'll be splashing out a fee on anyone untried on a permanent contract. In my opinion far better to pay for a known quantity like we did with Luongo, a few weeks/months into the new season once we 'know' how good they are. Free transfers are different altogether but bearing in mind our wage structure that means taking a gamble as we did with Ranger last season. If it's low financial risk expect us to make a couple of eyebrow raising decisions on underperforming or misbehaving players with impressive pedigree who have found themselves slip off the radar in the last couple of years. On a positive note....they probably have something to prove and will certainly not be pulling on a shirt for the money only.......

For what it's worth....Storey should stay....our top scorers last season each netted 8 and I don't see why we shouldn't give him a decent run in the first team from the start of the season (tour plus pre-season as first choice) before making up our minds about a loan switch.

If you're ready you're ready...age should not be a limiting factor.
If you're ready you're ready ! That`s what Bert Head thought and good times followed !
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I think we need a smaller squad this season around 25 and certainly no more than 30......and I'd include 5 or 6 loanees in those figures. A little like last season 3-4 season long loans from premier teams plus 2-3 shorter term loans and see how they play out. On that basis I wouldn't think we'll be splashing out a fee on anyone untried on a permanent contract. In my opinion far better to pay for a known quantity like we did with Luongo, a few weeks/months into the new season once we 'know' how good they are. Free transfers are different altogether but bearing in mind our wage structure that means taking a gamble as we did with Ranger last season. If it's low financial risk expect us to make a couple of eyebrow raising decisions on underperforming or misbehaving players with impressive pedigree who have found themselves slip off the radar in the last couple of years. On a positive note....they probably have something to prove and will certainly not be pulling on a shirt for the money only....... For what it's worth....Storey should stay....our top scorers last season each netted 8 and I don't see why we shouldn't give him a decent run in the first team from the start of the season (tour plus pre-season as first choice) before making up our minds about a loan switch. If you're ready you're ready...age should not be a limiting factor.[/p][/quote]If you're ready you're ready ! That`s what Bert Head thought and good times followed ! umpcah
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Wed 25 Jun 14

London Red says...

There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed!
.
However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales
.
Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced!
.
Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up)
.
Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially!
.
Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again!
.
Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2?
.
I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan!
.
I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year
.
We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around
.
I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all!
.
Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO
.
This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games
.
We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice
.
So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF
.
An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one
.
I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way!
There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed! . However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales . Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced! . Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up) . Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially! . Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again! . Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2? . I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan! . I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year . We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around . I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all! . Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO . This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games . We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice . So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF . An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one . I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way! London Red
  • Score: -2

1:04pm Wed 25 Jun 14

London Red says...

Fernham Red wrote:
I think we need a smaller squad this season around 25 and certainly no more than 30......and I'd include 5 or 6 loanees in those figures. A little like last season 3-4 season long loans from premier teams plus 2-3 shorter term loans and see how they play out. On that basis I wouldn't think we'll be splashing out a fee on anyone untried on a permanent contract. In my opinion far better to pay for a known quantity like we did with Luongo, a few weeks/months into the new season once we 'know' how good they are. Free transfers are different altogether but bearing in mind our wage structure that means taking a gamble as we did with Ranger last season. If it's low financial risk expect us to make a couple of eyebrow raising decisions on underperforming or misbehaving players with impressive pedigree who have found themselves slip off the radar in the last couple of years. On a positive note....they probably have something to prove and will certainly not be pulling on a shirt for the money only....... For what it's worth....Storey should stay....our top scorers last season each netted 8 and I don't see why we shouldn't give him a decent run in the first team from the start of the season (tour plus pre-season as first choice) before making up our minds about a loan switch. If you're ready you're ready...age should not be a limiting factor.
Top scorer may have only had 8 - because none of our strikers played more than a part of the season
.
Ajose joined late and was gone by Jan
.
Ranger missed Nov and December and then Feb onwards
.
Dany fell out of favour and didn't play post Jan
.
Then Smith didn't join until late Jan
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I think we need a smaller squad this season around 25 and certainly no more than 30......and I'd include 5 or 6 loanees in those figures. A little like last season 3-4 season long loans from premier teams plus 2-3 shorter term loans and see how they play out. On that basis I wouldn't think we'll be splashing out a fee on anyone untried on a permanent contract. In my opinion far better to pay for a known quantity like we did with Luongo, a few weeks/months into the new season once we 'know' how good they are. Free transfers are different altogether but bearing in mind our wage structure that means taking a gamble as we did with Ranger last season. If it's low financial risk expect us to make a couple of eyebrow raising decisions on underperforming or misbehaving players with impressive pedigree who have found themselves slip off the radar in the last couple of years. On a positive note....they probably have something to prove and will certainly not be pulling on a shirt for the money only....... For what it's worth....Storey should stay....our top scorers last season each netted 8 and I don't see why we shouldn't give him a decent run in the first team from the start of the season (tour plus pre-season as first choice) before making up our minds about a loan switch. If you're ready you're ready...age should not be a limiting factor.[/p][/quote]Top scorer may have only had 8 - because none of our strikers played more than a part of the season . Ajose joined late and was gone by Jan . Ranger missed Nov and December and then Feb onwards . Dany fell out of favour and didn't play post Jan . Then Smith didn't join until late Jan London Red
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Wed 25 Jun 14

jillyh says...

ciclosporindorset wrote:
jillyh wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
mikes0708 wrote:
Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down.

I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.
Me too! well said.
Wish I hadn't wasted my hard earned money on season tickets
Now wait for all the "you're not a true supporter" idiots.
Dear Jillyh
No you are not an idiot for saying what you did. I am sure you are a very good, totally anal one, but definitely not silly.
I was referring to the fans such as yourself being idiots
I am just realistic. Sorry if you don't like it
[quote][p][bold]ciclosporindorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jillyh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikes0708[/bold] wrote: Storey improved when Di Canio was mentoring him, but this all but stopped now that there is a manager in place who would not recognise a talented forward if he tripped over one. Whoever wins the court battle will not have the resources to take the club anywhere but down. I have supported the club for over 50 years but no more. I am not going to put money in the pockets of people who have no morals and dont give a **** for he fans.[/p][/quote]Me too! well said.[/p][/quote]Wish I hadn't wasted my hard earned money on season tickets Now wait for all the "you're not a true supporter" idiots.[/p][/quote]Dear Jillyh No you are not an idiot for saying what you did. I am sure you are a very good, totally anal one, but definitely not silly.[/p][/quote]I was referring to the fans such as yourself being idiots I am just realistic. Sorry if you don't like it jillyh
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Wed 25 Jun 14

hereford says...

good luck to miles storey obviously does not figure in mark coopers plans for next season are we bringing anyone in still 5 and half weeks left till start of season come on you reds
good luck to miles storey obviously does not figure in mark coopers plans for next season are we bringing anyone in still 5 and half weeks left till start of season come on you reds hereford
  • Score: 0

2:19am Thu 26 Jun 14

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed!
.
However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales
.
Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced!
.
Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up)
.
Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially!
.
Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again!
.
Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2?
.
I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan!
.
I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year
.
We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around
.
I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all!
.
Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO
.
This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games
.
We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice
.
So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF
.
An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one
.
I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way!
I see your point LR, and on paper we have numbers still, but I would only class Wes, Nathan T, Luongo, Kasim, Troy and to an extent Louis as players that Cooper really rates or trusts from whats left.

Willo - sent on season long loan to Yeovil
Storey -- likely to leave on loan
M Smith - nowhere near as good as Ranger but good scoring record yes
Byrne - not as good defensively as Jay.
Ward - dropped for the run-in, surely the end is nigh.
Troy - hasnt signed contract, future could be elsewhere

Yes the youngsters may step up but other than the Thompson's our youth team and first year pro's haven't set the world alight for some years.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed! . However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales . Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced! . Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up) . Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially! . Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again! . Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2? . I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan! . I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year . We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around . I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all! . Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO . This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games . We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice . So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF . An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one . I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way![/p][/quote]I see your point LR, and on paper we have numbers still, but I would only class Wes, Nathan T, Luongo, Kasim, Troy and to an extent Louis as players that Cooper really rates or trusts from whats left. Willo - sent on season long loan to Yeovil Storey -- likely to leave on loan M Smith - nowhere near as good as Ranger but good scoring record yes Byrne - not as good defensively as Jay. Ward - dropped for the run-in, surely the end is nigh. Troy - hasnt signed contract, future could be elsewhere Yes the youngsters may step up but other than the Thompson's our youth team and first year pro's haven't set the world alight for some years. Wilesy
  • Score: 0

8:03am Thu 26 Jun 14

London Red says...

Wilesy wrote:
London Red wrote:
There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed!
.
However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales
.
Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced!
.
Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up)
.
Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially!
.
Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again!
.
Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2?
.
I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan!
.
I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year
.
We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around
.
I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all!
.
Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO
.
This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games
.
We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice
.
So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF
.
An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one
.
I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way!
I see your point LR, and on paper we have numbers still, but I would only class Wes, Nathan T, Luongo, Kasim, Troy and to an extent Louis as players that Cooper really rates or trusts from whats left.

Willo - sent on season long loan to Yeovil
Storey -- likely to leave on loan
M Smith - nowhere near as good as Ranger but good scoring record yes
Byrne - not as good defensively as Jay.
Ward - dropped for the run-in, surely the end is nigh.
Troy - hasnt signed contract, future could be elsewhere

Yes the youngsters may step up but other than the Thompson's our youth team and first year pro's haven't set the world alight for some years.
I guess we disagree on Byrne Louis Smith and Willo - and that is why I'm more confident as that is a 3rd of the team!
.
I really rate Byrne and think he in some excellent shifts last year - yes he has weaknesses and had some bad games - but that is because he is a young L1 player! I expect him to be better this year - especially if given one position - being LB, RB, LW and RW didn't help. Make him LB or LWB and let him grow in the role
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Louis is our main prospect and Nathan has always said he is better! He has drive energy and passion - lets not forget last season was his debut one and what a debut one it was! If we can get a rock to sit next to him and allow him to burst forward like Sheff U and Brentford he will be great!
.
Smith is no Ranger - but no L1 striker is Ranger! He showed signs of improvement in hold up play and as said goal record is great. Let's see how he does with a pre-season and full season with us
.
Willo is not going to be our goal scoring saviour as pitched 2 years ago but if used right will be an asset at L1 level - has pace and can dribble. Let's get him winning free kicks, corners and pens. Then also throw in some assists and some goals and that is all you can ask from your second striker!
.
Also lets not forget he got loaned due to finances - he probably funded Ranger - and went to the Chmapionship too
.
Those 4 with Wes (100% here after today's news) Nathan Troy and Luongo and that is a great core and starting point - with just 3 spots to fill!
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed! . However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales . Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced! . Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up) . Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially! . Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again! . Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2? . I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan! . I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year . We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around . I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all! . Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO . This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games . We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice . So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF . An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one . I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way![/p][/quote]I see your point LR, and on paper we have numbers still, but I would only class Wes, Nathan T, Luongo, Kasim, Troy and to an extent Louis as players that Cooper really rates or trusts from whats left. Willo - sent on season long loan to Yeovil Storey -- likely to leave on loan M Smith - nowhere near as good as Ranger but good scoring record yes Byrne - not as good defensively as Jay. Ward - dropped for the run-in, surely the end is nigh. Troy - hasnt signed contract, future could be elsewhere Yes the youngsters may step up but other than the Thompson's our youth team and first year pro's haven't set the world alight for some years.[/p][/quote]I guess we disagree on Byrne Louis Smith and Willo - and that is why I'm more confident as that is a 3rd of the team! . I really rate Byrne and think he in some excellent shifts last year - yes he has weaknesses and had some bad games - but that is because he is a young L1 player! I expect him to be better this year - especially if given one position - being LB, RB, LW and RW didn't help. Make him LB or LWB and let him grow in the role . Louis is our main prospect and Nathan has always said he is better! He has drive energy and passion - lets not forget last season was his debut one and what a debut one it was! If we can get a rock to sit next to him and allow him to burst forward like Sheff U and Brentford he will be great! . Smith is no Ranger - but no L1 striker is Ranger! He showed signs of improvement in hold up play and as said goal record is great. Let's see how he does with a pre-season and full season with us . Willo is not going to be our goal scoring saviour as pitched 2 years ago but if used right will be an asset at L1 level - has pace and can dribble. Let's get him winning free kicks, corners and pens. Then also throw in some assists and some goals and that is all you can ask from your second striker! . Also lets not forget he got loaned due to finances - he probably funded Ranger - and went to the Chmapionship too . Those 4 with Wes (100% here after today's news) Nathan Troy and Luongo and that is a great core and starting point - with just 3 spots to fill! London Red
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Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
London Red wrote:
There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed!
.
However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales
.
Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced!
.
Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up)
.
Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially!
.
Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again!
.
Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2?
.
I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan!
.
I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year
.
We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around
.
I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all!
.
Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO
.
This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games
.
We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice
.
So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF
.
An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one
.
I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way!
I see your point LR, and on paper we have numbers still, but I would only class Wes, Nathan T, Luongo, Kasim, Troy and to an extent Louis as players that Cooper really rates or trusts from whats left.

Willo - sent on season long loan to Yeovil
Storey -- likely to leave on loan
M Smith - nowhere near as good as Ranger but good scoring record yes
Byrne - not as good defensively as Jay.
Ward - dropped for the run-in, surely the end is nigh.
Troy - hasnt signed contract, future could be elsewhere

Yes the youngsters may step up but other than the Thompson's our youth team and first year pro's haven't set the world alight for some years.
I guess we disagree on Byrne Louis Smith and Willo - and that is why I'm more confident as that is a 3rd of the team!
.
I really rate Byrne and think he in some excellent shifts last year - yes he has weaknesses and had some bad games - but that is because he is a young L1 player! I expect him to be better this year - especially if given one position - being LB, RB, LW and RW didn't help. Make him LB or LWB and let him grow in the role
.
Louis is our main prospect and Nathan has always said he is better! He has drive energy and passion - lets not forget last season was his debut one and what a debut one it was! If we can get a rock to sit next to him and allow him to burst forward like Sheff U and Brentford he will be great!
.
Smith is no Ranger - but no L1 striker is Ranger! He showed signs of improvement in hold up play and as said goal record is great. Let's see how he does with a pre-season and full season with us
.
Willo is not going to be our goal scoring saviour as pitched 2 years ago but if used right will be an asset at L1 level - has pace and can dribble. Let's get him winning free kicks, corners and pens. Then also throw in some assists and some goals and that is all you can ask from your second striker!
.
Also lets not forget he got loaned due to finances - he probably funded Ranger - and went to the Chmapionship too
.
Those 4 with Wes (100% here after today's news) Nathan Troy and Luongo and that is a great core and starting point - with just 3 spots to fill!
Completely agree on your comments LR, but from Coopers post match comments and actions I don't think he does

Willo went out on loan for a different type of player - a target man Ranger, I would think wages would be comparable? He doesn't rate Smith or Storey's hold up play although Smiths goal scoring record is very decent. Just can't see Willo featuring although we now need a forward or two so maybe he will.

I think Louis is great but he wasn't a regular like Luongo, although may play more regularly this season. We are well covered in centre mid bar the holding player. Byrne has to play LB or LWB, but was behind Jay and you could see why as Jay was better defensively.

Not sure Wes is 100% to stay despite todays news, although I 100% hope he does!

Troy well he has had the contract for 6 weeks now, I think its 50/50 if he stays can't call it either way.

As it stands we only have Ward as a definite at CB! I think we need at least three CB's hopefully Stephens and Troy and one other (Branco?) and maybe Ward stays as 4th choice.

New back up keeper to replace Belford

Defensive left back to replace Jay unless Byrne and Jones are deemed good enough.

Attacking midfielder to replace Mason (presumably not returning?)

2 wingers to replace Pritchard and N'Guessan (I'd forgotton him) unless Barker and Waldron are the future and stay injury free all season.

At least one striker although probably 2 as we only have Willo Smith and Will Randell

Thats 8 to 10 already, unless we go with even younger kids than this year, in which case Cooper would deserve a statue built if he scraped 8th place again.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There is no point making up hypothetical scenarios where every decent players leaves - as its obvious if they did we would be screwed! . However - that won't happen - yes 1 or 2 might go and if they did then we would have to address it at that point - lets not forget we did reinvest heavily last year following sales . Also most of your list were not first teamers for the final 3rd - Hall didn't play for the team since what late Jan - so is he really classed as a first teamer needing replacing? He was one and was replaced! . Mason didn't feature in 2014 - again is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Luongo is the man who should play that role! (We then have Harley or Gladwin as back up) . Ranger - didn't play post Feb 14 - and yes is a blow to lose - but we did alright in the last 10 or so games and have known he is not with us for months - so I'm sure this has been planned for - Lets not forget Smith was signed as they thought he was going in Jan intially! . Storey - really???? The guy went out on loan twice and when he did come back fell behind Waldon and 17 year old Randell againt Rotherham - is he really a first teamer needing replacing? Especially if he is being packed out on loan again! . Stephens, Pritchard and Jay - Yes they will need replacing - but who's to say Stephens is not coming back reducing it to only 2? . I doubt Koeman is going to play him and he said he wants to come to us if he goes on loan! . I'm going on the basis that the players here will be better as they have a years more experience now, they are settled more as a unit now having been together a year now and that Cooper now knows more about them to try and prevent some of the failings we saw last year . We have a great core in place and yes with only 3 or 4 signings that would become a great team - I really rate Wes, Nathan, Troy, Byrne, Louis and Mass and think they are what we should build the team around . I think Williams if used correctly can be an asset and I think Smith will be better too after a settled campaign - 18 was not a bad season after all! . Go 4231 - sign up Stephens to partner Troy - get in a DCM to sit alongside Louis and a land new winger to provide competition and depth to Tijane and Williams and we will be there IMO . This can easilly also switch to a 532 with Branco coming in for Tijane and Williams joining Smith up top - giving us flexibility for home/away or during games . We'd then have good options on the bench in Kasim, Harley, Gladwin, Barker and Waldon - though a new CF would be nice . So for me we do only need 3 or 4 - CB (Stephens), DCM, Winger and a CF . An LB would be a nice to have but I rate Byrne and Jones, Barthram and even Nathan can cover there so we wouldn't be short without a new one . I said top 10 outside chance of the POs last season and was spot on - and currently think we are the same - however add a few key players and I think it could be top 6 - but yes if we sell a few and don't replace them - obviously it goes the other way![/p][/quote]I see your point LR, and on paper we have numbers still, but I would only class Wes, Nathan T, Luongo, Kasim, Troy and to an extent Louis as players that Cooper really rates or trusts from whats left. Willo - sent on season long loan to Yeovil Storey -- likely to leave on loan M Smith - nowhere near as good as Ranger but good scoring record yes Byrne - not as good defensively as Jay. Ward - dropped for the run-in, surely the end is nigh. Troy - hasnt signed contract, future could be elsewhere Yes the youngsters may step up but other than the Thompson's our youth team and first year pro's haven't set the world alight for some years.[/p][/quote]I guess we disagree on Byrne Louis Smith and Willo - and that is why I'm more confident as that is a 3rd of the team! . I really rate Byrne and think he in some excellent shifts last year - yes he has weaknesses and had some bad games - but that is because he is a young L1 player! I expect him to be better this year - especially if given one position - being LB, RB, LW and RW didn't help. Make him LB or LWB and let him grow in the role . Louis is our main prospect and Nathan has always said he is better! He has drive energy and passion - lets not forget last season was his debut one and what a debut one it was! If we can get a rock to sit next to him and allow him to burst forward like Sheff U and Brentford he will be great! . Smith is no Ranger - but no L1 striker is Ranger! He showed signs of improvement in hold up play and as said goal record is great. Let's see how he does with a pre-season and full season with us . Willo is not going to be our goal scoring saviour as pitched 2 years ago but if used right will be an asset at L1 level - has pace and can dribble. Let's get him winning free kicks, corners and pens. Then also throw in some assists and some goals and that is all you can ask from your second striker! . Also lets not forget he got loaned due to finances - he probably funded Ranger - and went to the Chmapionship too . Those 4 with Wes (100% here after today's news) Nathan Troy and Luongo and that is a great core and starting point - with just 3 spots to fill![/p][/quote]Completely agree on your comments LR, but from Coopers post match comments and actions I don't think he does Willo went out on loan for a different type of player - a target man Ranger, I would think wages would be comparable? He doesn't rate Smith or Storey's hold up play although Smiths goal scoring record is very decent. Just can't see Willo featuring although we now need a forward or two so maybe he will. I think Louis is great but he wasn't a regular like Luongo, although may play more regularly this season. We are well covered in centre mid bar the holding player. Byrne has to play LB or LWB, but was behind Jay and you could see why as Jay was better defensively. Not sure Wes is 100% to stay despite todays news, although I 100% hope he does! Troy well he has had the contract for 6 weeks now, I think its 50/50 if he stays can't call it either way. As it stands we only have Ward as a definite at CB! I think we need at least three CB's hopefully Stephens and Troy and one other (Branco?) and maybe Ward stays as 4th choice. New back up keeper to replace Belford Defensive left back to replace Jay unless Byrne and Jones are deemed good enough. Attacking midfielder to replace Mason (presumably not returning?) 2 wingers to replace Pritchard and N'Guessan (I'd forgotton him) unless Barker and Waldron are the future and stay injury free all season. At least one striker although probably 2 as we only have Willo Smith and Will Randell Thats 8 to 10 already, unless we go with even younger kids than this year, in which case Cooper would deserve a statue built if he scraped 8th place again. Wilesy
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