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Town put Belford up for loan

Swindon Advertiser: Tyrell Belford Tyrell Belford

SWINDON Town goalkeeper Tyrell Belford could be set for a temporary move away from the County Ground.

The Advertiser understands the youngster, signed last summer following his release from Liverpool, has been offered by Town to all clubs in Leagues One and Two and the Skrill Premier on a season-long loan.

Second choice keeper Belford made nine appearances for the Robins last season, five in the league while Wes Foderingham was absent through injury and four in cup competitions, conceding 17 goals.

If he were to leave the County Ground on a temporary basis he would leave Wes Foderingham as the only senior goalkeeper in Mark Cooper’s squad.

Another Swindon player who could soon be loaned out is striker Miles Storey, with Portsmouth understood to have won the race to secure the youngster.

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5:45am Thu 26 Jun 14

whitety says...

what a joke we have become once again at this rate we wont be in a six a side league. relegation fight already and its only july.
what a joke we have become once again at this rate we wont be in a six a side league. relegation fight already and its only july. whitety
  • Score: -21

6:05am Thu 26 Jun 14

Haydonender says...

Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming. Haydonender
  • Score: 18

6:53am Thu 26 Jun 14

Fernham Red says...

If I read it correctly the 1.2m appeared in a bank account and disappeared again almost as quickly once people were satisfied 'there was some money'. On that Basis, Power already has his 'borrowed' money back again. Jed also had no money to start with, hence how power got in. Lord only knows where the money for the court case is coming from........oh that's right from hard earned money spent on ticket sales. The only real money in town.
If I read it correctly the 1.2m appeared in a bank account and disappeared again almost as quickly once people were satisfied 'there was some money'. On that Basis, Power already has his 'borrowed' money back again. Jed also had no money to start with, hence how power got in. Lord only knows where the money for the court case is coming from........oh that's right from hard earned money spent on ticket sales. The only real money in town. Fernham Red
  • Score: 3

6:57am Thu 26 Jun 14

Fernham Red says...

Haydonender I like your idea, the club will too because it doesn't involve spending a lot of money. My only concern is nobody will want a loan where we can withdraw the player at short notice. If we can't do that we'd be better with Tyrell on the bench unless we've another star in the making in our youth ranks.
Haydonender I like your idea, the club will too because it doesn't involve spending a lot of money. My only concern is nobody will want a loan where we can withdraw the player at short notice. If we can't do that we'd be better with Tyrell on the bench unless we've another star in the making in our youth ranks. Fernham Red
  • Score: 0

7:02am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

This might be happening at Belford's instigation and could actually be a very good sign - that Fodders is staying. The goalkeeping position is probably the worst for a player who's not an obvious first choice. Outfield players may have their specialist positions but they can often adapt to different roles when the need arises. Goalkeepers are different. If the first choice keeper stays on form, the number two is never going to get off the bench. No reserve team = no chance of football and no chance of playing your way into contention. Maybe Belford doesn't fancy that prospect? The Storey situation seems more clear cut. If he was going to break through with the Town he would have done it by now. Looks like they've decided he's not up to it at this level.
This might be happening at Belford's instigation and could actually be a very good sign - that Fodders is staying. The goalkeeping position is probably the worst for a player who's not an obvious first choice. Outfield players may have their specialist positions but they can often adapt to different roles when the need arises. Goalkeepers are different. If the first choice keeper stays on form, the number two is never going to get off the bench. No reserve team = no chance of football and no chance of playing your way into contention. Maybe Belford doesn't fancy that prospect? The Storey situation seems more clear cut. If he was going to break through with the Town he would have done it by now. Looks like they've decided he's not up to it at this level. Oi Den!
  • Score: 8

7:13am Thu 26 Jun 14

Davidsyrett says...

Seems to me this suggests Wes is staying. If that's the case seems sensible to send out Belford on loan to get some experience.
Seems to me this suggests Wes is staying. If that's the case seems sensible to send out Belford on loan to get some experience. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 9

7:18am Thu 26 Jun 14

umpcah says...

Oi Den! wrote:
This might be happening at Belford's instigation and could actually be a very good sign - that Fodders is staying. The goalkeeping position is probably the worst for a player who's not an obvious first choice. Outfield players may have their specialist positions but they can often adapt to different roles when the need arises. Goalkeepers are different. If the first choice keeper stays on form, the number two is never going to get off the bench. No reserve team = no chance of football and no chance of playing your way into contention. Maybe Belford doesn't fancy that prospect? The Storey situation seems more clear cut. If he was going to break through with the Town he would have done it by now. Looks like they've decided he's not up to it at this level.
That`s sheer speculation but a welcome point for all us worried Town fans to ponder on. I wonder what the next crisis will be and I hope all turns out OK after this afternoon`s Court deliberations. I just find it so difficult to believe that directors can invest like they have done with no legal documentation ! I very much doubt that any other league club has ever had such a mess to sort out .
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: This might be happening at Belford's instigation and could actually be a very good sign - that Fodders is staying. The goalkeeping position is probably the worst for a player who's not an obvious first choice. Outfield players may have their specialist positions but they can often adapt to different roles when the need arises. Goalkeepers are different. If the first choice keeper stays on form, the number two is never going to get off the bench. No reserve team = no chance of football and no chance of playing your way into contention. Maybe Belford doesn't fancy that prospect? The Storey situation seems more clear cut. If he was going to break through with the Town he would have done it by now. Looks like they've decided he's not up to it at this level.[/p][/quote]That`s sheer speculation but a welcome point for all us worried Town fans to ponder on. I wonder what the next crisis will be and I hope all turns out OK after this afternoon`s Court deliberations. I just find it so difficult to believe that directors can invest like they have done with no legal documentation ! I very much doubt that any other league club has ever had such a mess to sort out . umpcah
  • Score: 3

7:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

STFConyourpitch says...

Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club? STFConyourpitch
  • Score: -9

7:24am Thu 26 Jun 14

Helpme234 says...

When two tribes go to war
A point is all you can score
When two tribes go to war
A point is all you can score
When two tribes go to war A point is all you can score When two tribes go to war A point is all you can score Helpme234
  • Score: -5

7:47am Thu 26 Jun 14

London Red says...

This has got to be a good thing - considering all the doom mungers said there was no chance Wes would be here - why would TB be up for loan if that was the case?
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As said Recall option (or a loan) if Wes did get injured and we are fine
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All it means is Wes will now play JPT games
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As for the case surely the judge has to look beyond the agreement and think if we give it to Jed STFC go into Admin like we would have without Power or give it to Power and we continue forward!
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Also this case has shown how bad Black exit was!
This has got to be a good thing - considering all the doom mungers said there was no chance Wes would be here - why would TB be up for loan if that was the case? . As said Recall option (or a loan) if Wes did get injured and we are fine . All it means is Wes will now play JPT games . As for the case surely the judge has to look beyond the agreement and think if we give it to Jed STFC go into Admin like we would have without Power or give it to Power and we continue forward! . Also this case has shown how bad Black exit was! London Red
  • Score: 7

7:50am Thu 26 Jun 14

London Red says...

whitety wrote:
what a joke we have become once again at this rate we wont be in a six a side league. relegation fight already and its only july.
I'm sure you said that last year too!
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Where did we finish again?
[quote][p][bold]whitety[/bold] wrote: what a joke we have become once again at this rate we wont be in a six a side league. relegation fight already and its only july.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you said that last year too! . Where did we finish again? London Red
  • Score: 16

7:58am Thu 26 Jun 14

STFConyourpitch says...

STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
and before people assume I'm supporting Jed, No I am not I was making a statement.
[quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]and before people assume I'm supporting Jed, No I am not I was making a statement. STFConyourpitch
  • Score: 1

8:08am Thu 26 Jun 14

Chish and Fips says...

I thought yours truly Fredi might make an appearance on here. Will admit some of words make sense, but I am a bit suspicious of his motives.
I thought yours truly Fredi might make an appearance on here. Will admit some of words make sense, but I am a bit suspicious of his motives. Chish and Fips
  • Score: -4

8:16am Thu 26 Jun 14

smirg kcab says...

And you lot still moan
Wes or Belford?
Get real he's not good enough and never will be and you all know it.

We are jeds red and white army
And you lot still moan Wes or Belford? Get real he's not good enough and never will be and you all know it. We are jeds red and white army smirg kcab
  • Score: -10

8:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

GiulianoGrazioli says...

When is Wes's contract up?
Could be a plan to get Belford game time with a view to him becoming our number 1 keeper - for the 15/16 campaign more likely.

There is also the scenario that Belford asked for the loan move. Either way, I think he has shown great potential so the loan move would benefit.
When is Wes's contract up? Could be a plan to get Belford game time with a view to him becoming our number 1 keeper - for the 15/16 campaign more likely. There is also the scenario that Belford asked for the loan move. Either way, I think he has shown great potential so the loan move would benefit. GiulianoGrazioli
  • Score: 3

8:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
With a shedload of false promises and his share of £1. Not many people doubt that he has money. It's just that many of us think he was far more interested in using STFC to add to his wealth than putting money into the club.
[quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]With a shedload of false promises and his share of £1. Not many people doubt that he has money. It's just that many of us think he was far more interested in using STFC to add to his wealth than putting money into the club. Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

8:26am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
I thought yours truly Fredi might make an appearance on here. Will admit some of words make sense, but I am a bit suspicious of his motives.
Why did you and others doubt his motives? Because the Jed "The Source of all Truth" McCrory said you should? And what do fredi's motives matter anyway if he was telling us the truth?
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: I thought yours truly Fredi might make an appearance on here. Will admit some of words make sense, but I am a bit suspicious of his motives.[/p][/quote]Why did you and others doubt his motives? Because the Jed "The Source of all Truth" McCrory said you should? And what do fredi's motives matter anyway if he was telling us the truth? Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

8:45am Thu 26 Jun 14

old town robin says...

STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months.

With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.
[quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months. With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up. old town robin
  • Score: 5

8:50am Thu 26 Jun 14

Robinonfire says...

Day 2
Cowboy 1 V Cowboy 2
Day 2 Cowboy 1 V Cowboy 2 Robinonfire
  • Score: -4

8:59am Thu 26 Jun 14

avo says...

old town robin wrote:
STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months.

With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.
FFS! - do you really believe that Black & Patey gave a monkeys about whether any incoming del boy could take the club forward or not??????? They wanted out as quickly as possible, their very own time frame eliminating all but one interested party. The dodgiest party of the lot.
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Black & Patey may be many things, naive they are not.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months. With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.[/p][/quote]FFS! - do you really believe that Black & Patey gave a monkeys about whether any incoming del boy could take the club forward or not??????? They wanted out as quickly as possible, their very own time frame eliminating all but one interested party. The dodgiest party of the lot. . Black & Patey may be many things, naive they are not. avo
  • Score: 1

9:15am Thu 26 Jun 14

redbythesea says...

Whilst I don't trust Jed's motives, I suspect there may be information which comes out in today's evidence which may also influence some of you Power lovers.
Whilst I don't trust Jed's motives, I suspect there may be information which comes out in today's evidence which may also influence some of you Power lovers. redbythesea
  • Score: -1

9:50am Thu 26 Jun 14

old town robin says...

avo wrote:
old town robin wrote:
STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months.

With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.
FFS! - do you really believe that Black & Patey gave a monkeys about whether any incoming del boy could take the club forward or not??????? They wanted out as quickly as possible, their very own time frame eliminating all but one interested party. The dodgiest party of the lot.
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Black & Patey may be many things, naive they are not.
It's all about opinions AVO, so not sure why you are going off on one so early in the morning, I haven't access to the history of events regarding the take over, but I do remember Patey spouting off that he he had negotiated the best possible deal for STFC to take the club forward, You are right that Black wanted out as quickly as possible and didn't care two figs about losing money and Swindon town's future was not going to with his participation, again I remember his statement to the media he didn't want to leave a car crash (or was it train?).

For me naivety relates to gullible people that are taken in by the lies and **** of an other, it doesn't relate to intelligence, I have my opinion and you have yours, I merely asked the question which you didn't answer in hine-sight would they still be as enthusiastic to sell him the club for a £1.
If you believe they would, fine, but then I would argue the fact considering the comments at the time of the two of them, if naivety was not the reason then what was the reason for two intelligent successful people to act as they did if they knew all along what the motives were of jedco to milk the club dry,
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months. With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.[/p][/quote]FFS! - do you really believe that Black & Patey gave a monkeys about whether any incoming del boy could take the club forward or not??????? They wanted out as quickly as possible, their very own time frame eliminating all but one interested party. The dodgiest party of the lot. . Black & Patey may be many things, naive they are not.[/p][/quote]It's all about opinions AVO, so not sure why you are going off on one so early in the morning, I haven't access to the history of events regarding the take over, but I do remember Patey spouting off that he he had negotiated the best possible deal for STFC to take the club forward, You are right that Black wanted out as quickly as possible and didn't care two figs about losing money and Swindon town's future was not going to with his participation, again I remember his statement to the media he didn't want to leave a car crash (or was it train?). For me naivety relates to gullible people that are taken in by the lies and **** of an other, it doesn't relate to intelligence, I have my opinion and you have yours, I merely asked the question which you didn't answer in hine-sight would they still be as enthusiastic to sell him the club for a £1. If you believe they would, fine, but then I would argue the fact considering the comments at the time of the two of them, if naivety was not the reason then what was the reason for two intelligent successful people to act as they did if they knew all along what the motives were of jedco to milk the club dry, old town robin
  • Score: 5

9:57am Thu 26 Jun 14

Davidsyrett says...

old town robin wrote:
STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months.

With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.
As STFC said, Jed is a rich man by most peoples standard, regardless of how much he bought the club for, you have to have money behind you to be allowed to pass the FL fit & proper test. Whether he invests in the club is another matter.

Whilst I would much rather have LP at the helm, having read yesterdays reports on the court case, I can't believe how naive he has been. It seems to me it was only when Sangita Shah was brought in to audit the club that Power began to notice he may well be the owner. Surely if your investing money into a business, you look into all these issues's first?

While I worry about Jed's motive's if it had not been for him, this club could have been in the Conference now. Just hope they can sort it out soon.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months. With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.[/p][/quote]As STFC said, Jed is a rich man by most peoples standard, regardless of how much he bought the club for, you have to have money behind you to be allowed to pass the FL fit & proper test. Whether he invests in the club is another matter. Whilst I would much rather have LP at the helm, having read yesterdays reports on the court case, I can't believe how naive he has been. It seems to me it was only when Sangita Shah was brought in to audit the club that Power began to notice he may well be the owner. Surely if your investing money into a business, you look into all these issues's first? While I worry about Jed's motive's if it had not been for him, this club could have been in the Conference now. Just hope they can sort it out soon. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

10:17am Thu 26 Jun 14

Chish and Fips says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
I thought yours truly Fredi might make an appearance on here. Will admit some of words make sense, but I am a bit suspicious of his motives.
Why did you and others doubt his motives? Because the Jed "The Source of all Truth" McCrory said you should? And what do fredi's motives matter anyway if he was telling us the truth?
Whilst the alleged accusations supplied by Fredi seemed feasible, all very difficult to prove and still difficult to prove it seems.
You said it yourself ' IF' he was telling the truth.
Sometimes, it is want the reader wants to believe or would prefer to believe takes precedence.
My doubts are why he/she only appear to dish the dirt when the dark black magic of finances reared their ugly head, which is why I queried that there was nothing from him/her on this issue.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: I thought yours truly Fredi might make an appearance on here. Will admit some of words make sense, but I am a bit suspicious of his motives.[/p][/quote]Why did you and others doubt his motives? Because the Jed "The Source of all Truth" McCrory said you should? And what do fredi's motives matter anyway if he was telling us the truth?[/p][/quote]Whilst the alleged accusations supplied by Fredi seemed feasible, all very difficult to prove and still difficult to prove it seems. You said it yourself ' IF' he was telling the truth. Sometimes, it is want the reader wants to believe or would prefer to believe takes precedence. My doubts are why he/she only appear to dish the dirt when the dark black magic of finances reared their ugly head, which is why I queried that there was nothing from him/her on this issue. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 0

10:51am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oxon-Red says...

Nice break from the board :-)

Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force.

I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer.

The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid.

The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ?

Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-)

COYMR
Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -2

11:12am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

avo wrote:
old town robin wrote:
STFConyourpitch wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?
He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months.

With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.
FFS! - do you really believe that Black & Patey gave a monkeys about whether any incoming del boy could take the club forward or not??????? They wanted out as quickly as possible, their very own time frame eliminating all but one interested party. The dodgiest party of the lot.
.
Black & Patey may be many things, naive they are not.
Avo, yes, I do believe Black wanted to leave the club in good hands. The fact that he had had enough of his generosity being abused does not mean he cared nothing for the club's future.
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFConyourpitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]Actually, you would be suprised to know Jed actually does have money. Apparently he is a millionaire. How do you think he bought the club?[/p][/quote]He bought the debt free club for a £1 and hasn't invested diddly **** in the club, quite the opposite in fact as he has milked the club for all he can and he's not finished yet. Expectations of the naive Black and Patey that he had the means and contacts to take the club forward, As bad as they were at judging the character of the man they did the business with I wonder if they would still hand over the running of the club to a man that promised the earth but has actually only ever taken money out of the club. They probably believed he would invest some of those millions he has, but the warning signs were there from day 1 when he couldn't or didn't want to pay the wages and allowed Black to authorise the sale of one of our best players. But you are right he is a millionaire and we all know why having turned a £1 investment into 1/2 million within 12 months. With regards to the actual article, I was quite impressed with Belford after his first game or two when his distribution was a little bit nervy, It will be good for him to get more experience and return to us if and when Wes moves on. Seems strange we are loaning him out with so much speculation that Wes would be the one to go. Hope that means he won't be leaving us just yet, I don't think Power would have agreed a loan move unless he already has a replacement lined up.[/p][/quote]FFS! - do you really believe that Black & Patey gave a monkeys about whether any incoming del boy could take the club forward or not??????? They wanted out as quickly as possible, their very own time frame eliminating all but one interested party. The dodgiest party of the lot. . Black & Patey may be many things, naive they are not.[/p][/quote]Avo, yes, I do believe Black wanted to leave the club in good hands. The fact that he had had enough of his generosity being abused does not mean he cared nothing for the club's future. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

11:25am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Nice break from the board :-)

Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force.

I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer.

The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid.

The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ?

Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-)

COYMR
Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing. Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

11:41am Thu 26 Jun 14

Oxon-Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR
Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.
Den,

If he had paid £10M for the club but acted in the same manner that would have been okay ?

"Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing."

Possibly, possibly when ? After admin ? Yes Jed appears to have been a bad move BUT what level of football could we expect to be watching next season. Can't be answered as it is in the past but maybe it was actually the right move at the time.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.[/p][/quote]Den, If he had paid £10M for the club but acted in the same manner that would have been okay ? "Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing." Possibly, possibly when ? After admin ? Yes Jed appears to have been a bad move BUT what level of football could we expect to be watching next season. Can't be answered as it is in the past but maybe it was actually the right move at the time. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Fernham Red says...

I wonder what they'll be eating for lunch today? Any suggestions?
I wonder what they'll be eating for lunch today? Any suggestions? Fernham Red
  • Score: 0

1:39pm Thu 26 Jun 14

umpcah says...

Fernham Red wrote:
I wonder what they'll be eating for lunch today? Any suggestions?
I hope McCrory is eating humble pie !
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I wonder what they'll be eating for lunch today? Any suggestions?[/p][/quote]I hope McCrory is eating humble pie ! umpcah
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Paul12001 says...

Getting back to the thread which is about Tyrell Belford not the court battle, the positive is that it would appear Wes is staying for the season. If Tyrell is going out on loan though one would assume somebody is coming in as cover for Wes.
Getting back to the thread which is about Tyrell Belford not the court battle, the positive is that it would appear Wes is staying for the season. If Tyrell is going out on loan though one would assume somebody is coming in as cover for Wes. Paul12001
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Thu 26 Jun 14

old town robin says...

umpcah wrote:
Fernham Red wrote:
I wonder what they'll be eating for lunch today? Any suggestions?
I hope McCrory is eating humble pie !
I wonder if Suarez is up for an ale pie compliments of Lee power
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: I wonder what they'll be eating for lunch today? Any suggestions?[/p][/quote]I hope McCrory is eating humble pie ![/p][/quote]I wonder if Suarez is up for an ale pie compliments of Lee power old town robin
  • Score: 0

2:20pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Oi Den! says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR
Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.
Den,

If he had paid £10M for the club but acted in the same manner that would have been okay ?

"Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing."

Possibly, possibly when ? After admin ? Yes Jed appears to have been a bad move BUT what level of football could we expect to be watching next season. Can't be answered as it is in the past but maybe it was actually the right move at the time.

COYMR
Oxon, nobody ever said that McCrory was the only interested party who was prepared to meet the timescale. It's my view that he got hold of the club because of the promises he made. Perhaps the other bidders failed because they didn't try to hoodwink Patey with fairy tales of riches. How that man did not see through Transparent Jed, who was bullshiitting from day one, is an enduring mystery.

Not sure of the relevance of your question about the £10m but I don't imagine anyone would put in £10m is likely to want to extract large amounts in "consultancy fees" - especially fees allegedly incurred in the purchase of the club, which McCrory (or Murrell) admitted they did.

Incidentally, McCrory's mate Agombar has gone to Hereford with remarkably similar results. The language is even the same. He got the club for nothing amid talk of "sustainability", "the community", "going forward" etc - but the only thing he's tried to achieve is get two leases transferred from the club into his own company.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.[/p][/quote]Den, If he had paid £10M for the club but acted in the same manner that would have been okay ? "Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing." Possibly, possibly when ? After admin ? Yes Jed appears to have been a bad move BUT what level of football could we expect to be watching next season. Can't be answered as it is in the past but maybe it was actually the right move at the time. COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, nobody ever said that McCrory was the only interested party who was prepared to meet the timescale. It's my view that he got hold of the club because of the promises he made. Perhaps the other bidders failed because they didn't try to hoodwink Patey with fairy tales of riches. How that man did not see through Transparent Jed, who was bullshiitting from day one, is an enduring mystery. Not sure of the relevance of your question about the £10m but I don't imagine anyone would put in £10m is likely to want to extract large amounts in "consultancy fees" - especially fees allegedly incurred in the purchase of the club, which McCrory (or Murrell) admitted they did. Incidentally, McCrory's mate Agombar has gone to Hereford with remarkably similar results. The language is even the same. He got the club for nothing amid talk of "sustainability", "the community", "going forward" etc - but the only thing he's tried to achieve is get two leases transferred from the club into his own company. Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

5:34pm Thu 26 Jun 14

dazzastfc says...

Haydonender wrote:
Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case.

Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.
IF administration is the only way to get shot of these 2 then i would be more than happy playing conformance football...
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Makes sense to get him some game time to me, as long as we have a recall option if Wes gets injured. Surely an under 18 keeper could sit on the bench just in case. Most worrying right now is the court case, having caught up on yesterdays events I'm not really clear what Power's case is - it seems to be a verbal agreement with Jed that he can take control within 3 years instead of the original 14 days. If the judge decides thats not valid, we will be hugely up the creek without a paddle. Imagine being owned by Jed again who has no money, with Power wanting the money he has invested back. If Jed wins, can only see administration looming.[/p][/quote]IF administration is the only way to get shot of these 2 then i would be more than happy playing conformance football... dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

5:37pm Thu 26 Jun 14

hereford says...

tyrell belford plying his trade his trade in the conference premier or south or north next season good luck to him it gives him regular football and experience as long as he stays fit obviously mark cooper has another keeper in mind as back up doom merchants forget rest of us come on you reds
tyrell belford plying his trade his trade in the conference premier or south or north next season good luck to him it gives him regular football and experience as long as he stays fit obviously mark cooper has another keeper in mind as back up doom merchants forget rest of us come on you reds hereford
  • Score: -1

6:19pm Thu 26 Jun 14

jillyh says...

Fernham Red wrote:
Haydonender I like your idea, the club will too because it doesn't involve spending a lot of money. My only concern is nobody will want a loan where we can withdraw the player at short notice. If we can't do that we'd be better with Tyrell on the bench unless we've another star in the making in our youth ranks.
That's all very well and good but what do you do with an injury mid game?
Relying on youngsters was a problem last season
Don't think there will be a club at this rate anyway
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: Haydonender I like your idea, the club will too because it doesn't involve spending a lot of money. My only concern is nobody will want a loan where we can withdraw the player at short notice. If we can't do that we'd be better with Tyrell on the bench unless we've another star in the making in our youth ranks.[/p][/quote]That's all very well and good but what do you do with an injury mid game? Relying on youngsters was a problem last season Don't think there will be a club at this rate anyway jillyh
  • Score: -2

10:14pm Thu 26 Jun 14

LeGod says...

It's ok people slagging off Power no one knows what he has been planning to help us move forward for next season for all we know he could have some investors ready to come in but wants the courts case out the way first.
Everyone is just guessing. Lets give the guy some credit he out his money where his mouth was and so what he has taken it back there may be other money he has so lets just wait and see once hopefully we get this joker Jed out the way. One thing is for sure this will damage Jed in football with his reputation which was already dodgy anyway but even more so now the fact he has lied on oath.
July is when all the transfers happen and the fact we are putting players out on loan like Belford and Storey suggests to me we have players lined up to come in. The squad will be smaller this season but maybe of better quality.
Lets all wait and see. As soo as this court case is over if Power is the owner i will be renewing my season ticket if its Jed i wont.
It's ok people slagging off Power no one knows what he has been planning to help us move forward for next season for all we know he could have some investors ready to come in but wants the courts case out the way first. Everyone is just guessing. Lets give the guy some credit he out his money where his mouth was and so what he has taken it back there may be other money he has so lets just wait and see once hopefully we get this joker Jed out the way. One thing is for sure this will damage Jed in football with his reputation which was already dodgy anyway but even more so now the fact he has lied on oath. July is when all the transfers happen and the fact we are putting players out on loan like Belford and Storey suggests to me we have players lined up to come in. The squad will be smaller this season but maybe of better quality. Lets all wait and see. As soo as this court case is over if Power is the owner i will be renewing my season ticket if its Jed i wont. LeGod
  • Score: 0

12:30am Fri 27 Jun 14

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR
Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.
Den,

If he had paid £10M for the club but acted in the same manner that would have been okay ?

"Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing."

Possibly, possibly when ? After admin ? Yes Jed appears to have been a bad move BUT what level of football could we expect to be watching next season. Can't be answered as it is in the past but maybe it was actually the right move at the time.

COYMR
Oxon, nobody ever said that McCrory was the only interested party who was prepared to meet the timescale. It's my view that he got hold of the club because of the promises he made. Perhaps the other bidders failed because they didn't try to hoodwink Patey with fairy tales of riches. How that man did not see through Transparent Jed, who was bullshiitting from day one, is an enduring mystery.

Not sure of the relevance of your question about the £10m but I don't imagine anyone would put in £10m is likely to want to extract large amounts in "consultancy fees" - especially fees allegedly incurred in the purchase of the club, which McCrory (or Murrell) admitted they did.

Incidentally, McCrory's mate Agombar has gone to Hereford with remarkably similar results. The language is even the same. He got the club for nothing amid talk of "sustainability", "the community", "going forward" etc - but the only thing he's tried to achieve is get two leases transferred from the club into his own company.
My reading of it at the time Den was that Black and Patey wanted shot of the Club come what may. So much for Black's legacy?

Don't forget this was all being conducted in the maelstrom of Di Canio swirling round the club with all sorts of implications. It was madness. Still is.

What we need is clarity, stability, and a good dose of realism. Unfortunately, we have become so used to confusion, unremitting upheaval and a constant stream of ****.

Despite this, we still hover in the upper echelons of League 1, produce great players like the Thompson bros, and deliver up games like PV away last season.

So, I won't be buying a season ticket. I never do as I live in Manchester. But I would be surprised if I don't get to at least a dozen games next season.

COYR'ssssss
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Nice break from the board :-) Good to see the pre-season Reggie Relegation's are out in force. I was wrong about Jed but still ask "where would we be without him ?" . Very important question for which there is no certain answer. The £1 reference is very boring and completely irrelevant. All it is, is a nominal amount which is used to SELL something. Bates bought Chelski for £1, Theo Path eat his I think paid £1 for Ryman's. In trouble companies, like Town, are taken over by others and a nominal fee is paid. The point of buying a failing company is to turn it around and make it profitable. Jed appears to misled people but the price he paid is meaningless. If he or someone else had turned the club round, we had won promotion and were in profit would the £1 be referenced or would we be hailing them as we did Black ? Glad It looks like I was correct regarding Wes :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, you are missing the point completely about the £1 consideration, the point being that McCrory and his cronies paid only £1 for a company with no callable debt - unlike the usual position where a company is effectively given away to someone for that nominal fee because they are taking on a lot of debt. Those people paid £1 for a club that was in a healthy position by lower division standards and they put b*gger all into it. To say that the price they paid is meaningless is to bury your head in the sand. Where would we be without McCrory? Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing.[/p][/quote]Den, If he had paid £10M for the club but acted in the same manner that would have been okay ? "Possibly the club would have been taken over by somebody with good intentions, instead of by somebody who wheedled his way in by promising the earth and delivering nothing." Possibly, possibly when ? After admin ? Yes Jed appears to have been a bad move BUT what level of football could we expect to be watching next season. Can't be answered as it is in the past but maybe it was actually the right move at the time. COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, nobody ever said that McCrory was the only interested party who was prepared to meet the timescale. It's my view that he got hold of the club because of the promises he made. Perhaps the other bidders failed because they didn't try to hoodwink Patey with fairy tales of riches. How that man did not see through Transparent Jed, who was bullshiitting from day one, is an enduring mystery. Not sure of the relevance of your question about the £10m but I don't imagine anyone would put in £10m is likely to want to extract large amounts in "consultancy fees" - especially fees allegedly incurred in the purchase of the club, which McCrory (or Murrell) admitted they did. Incidentally, McCrory's mate Agombar has gone to Hereford with remarkably similar results. The language is even the same. He got the club for nothing amid talk of "sustainability", "the community", "going forward" etc - but the only thing he's tried to achieve is get two leases transferred from the club into his own company.[/p][/quote]My reading of it at the time Den was that Black and Patey wanted shot of the Club come what may. So much for Black's legacy? Don't forget this was all being conducted in the maelstrom of Di Canio swirling round the club with all sorts of implications. It was madness. Still is. What we need is clarity, stability, and a good dose of realism. Unfortunately, we have become so used to confusion, unremitting upheaval and a constant stream of ****. Despite this, we still hover in the upper echelons of League 1, produce great players like the Thompson bros, and deliver up games like PV away last season. So, I won't be buying a season ticket. I never do as I live in Manchester. But I would be surprised if I don't get to at least a dozen games next season. COYR'ssssss mancrobin
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