stfcgirlie wrote:
Morning everyone! I know this has nothing to do with whether MM wants Gillespie or not - but I heard a rumour a while ago that Tommy Mooney is off to a Spanish team. Does anyone know anything about this?? Cheers.

Jimmyswindon wrote:

stfcgirlie wrote: Morning everyone! I know this has nothing to do with whether MM wants Gillespie or not - but I heard a rumour a while ago that Tommy Mooney is off to a Spanish team. Does anyone know anything about this?? Cheers.

bbc sport said that a few weeks back. or he might just be going to spain to open a bar and drink beer

s.lovesey wrote:
Are we seriously not prepared to pay a fee for any player, yet we are all supposed to be buying season tickets.....MMMM that sounds like a real deal !!!

Phil_S wrote:

s.lovesey wrote: Are we seriously not prepared to pay a fee for any player, yet we are all supposed to be buying season tickets.....MMMM that sounds like a real deal !!!

Drrrrrrrrr, we are getting the season tickets at less than £10 a match. Th eclub aren't exactly going to be rolling in it are they? They are going to need to sell 4,500 to match last years, AND add 1,500 to the gate. AF & co have already parted with millions to save the club, they are now making football cheaper for us to watch. I would ask have YOU splashed the cash yet on an ST. If so good on yer, if not don't moan, put YOUR money where your mouth is, cos the new owners already have

M Mack wrote:

Phil_S wrote:

s.lovesey wrote: Are we seriously not prepared to pay a fee for any player, yet we are all supposed to be buying season tickets.....MMMM that sounds like a real deal !!!

Drrrrrrrrr, we are getting the season tickets at less than £10 a match. Th eclub aren't exactly going to be rolling in it are they? They are going to need to sell 4,500 to match last years, AND add 1,500 to the gate. AF & co have already parted with millions to save the club, they are now making football cheaper for us to watch. I would ask have YOU splashed the cash yet on an ST. If so good on yer, if not don't moan, put YOUR money where your mouth is, cos the new owners already have

You talk much sense Phil and I definately agree with you, but the thing that gets supporters excited is new and better players coming in. You don't have to spend big bucks to get Championship quality in and it is a sign of intent from the board and would sell more season tickets than anything else. You have to speculate to accumulate in any business. If you want rubbish and to be static in league 1, then free transfers are fine. If we struggle this coming season, then season tickets would not sell the following season, regardless of price. People are expecting a promotion push this coming season, simple as!!!

squeal wrote:
"Town already have a healthy array of striking options including Simon Cox, Lee Peacock, Billy Paynter, Blair Sturrock, Barry Corr and Ben Joyce, and with that in mind, Malpas revealed his transfer priorities lie elsewhere on the pitch." Striking Options!!!! Lionel Blair 'Ball control of a baby elephant' Sturrock & I spend all season injured Barry Corr. Ben Joyce has potenital but not ready for a full season yet. We need more strikers, keep it fresh up front so they don't rest on their lorrels

glasred wrote:
The fact remains that IF we are seriously going for promotion next season, we WILL have to get some quality players on board..including another striker..and we will not achieve that by getting in free transfers and loan signings!We as supporters need to continue buying the cut price season tickets, wilst A.F @ co get there heads around the fact that promotion will NOT be achieved without some financial investment by themselves in the playing squad.

squeal wrote:
"Town already have a healthy array of striking options including Simon Cox, Lee Peacock, Billy Paynter, Blair Sturrock, Barry Corr and Ben Joyce, and with that in mind, Malpas revealed his transfer priorities lie elsewhere on the pitch." Striking Options!!!! Lionel Blair 'Ball control of a baby elephant' Sturrock & I spend all season injured Barry Corr. Ben Joyce has potenital but not ready for a full season yet. We need more strikers, keep it fresh up front so they don't rest on their lorrels

jill wrote:

squeal wrote: "Town already have a healthy array of striking options including Simon Cox, Lee Peacock, Billy Paynter, Blair Sturrock, Barry Corr and Ben Joyce, and with that in mind, Malpas revealed his transfer priorities lie elsewhere on the pitch." Striking Options!!!! Lionel Blair 'Ball control of a baby elephant' Sturrock & I spend all season injured Barry Corr. Ben Joyce has potenital but not ready for a full season yet. We need more strikers, keep it fresh up front so they don't rest on their lorrels

Strongly disagree with you re Blair Sturrock. He runs the lines and always gives 150%. Unfortunately I think it has been due to the midfield not pushing up that he has been made to look as if he gets stuck with the ball - in reality there is no-one to pass it to. How many games did you watch last season?

stfc4eva wrote:
With MM stating that their wont be much spending on players in the close season. We will have mostly same squad of players as last season. All this crap about promotion is load crap. The currant squad was only good enough to finish 13th If we win promotion it will be biggest upset since we won league cup in 69. come october we will be looking for new manager.

glasred wrote:
callumbus..perhaps a striker is not our main priority and I agree the defence needs strengthening first.However, I still maintain that we need to spend in order to get in players of the right ilk if a promotion challenge is to be a reality.

Phil_S wrote:

M Mack wrote:

Phil_S wrote:

s.lovesey wrote: Are we seriously not prepared to pay a fee for any player, yet we are all supposed to be buying season tickets.....MMMM that sounds like a real deal !!!

Drrrrrrrrr, we are getting the season tickets at less than £10 a match. Th eclub aren't exactly going to be rolling in it are they? They are going to need to sell 4,500 to match last years, AND add 1,500 to the gate. AF & co have already parted with millions to save the club, they are now making football cheaper for us to watch. I would ask have YOU splashed the cash yet on an ST. If so good on yer, if not don't moan, put YOUR money where your mouth is, cos the new owners already have

You talk much sense Phil and I definately agree with you, but the thing that gets supporters excited is new and better players coming in. You don't have to spend big bucks to get Championship quality in and it is a sign of intent from the board and would sell more season tickets than anything else. You have to speculate to accumulate in any business. If you want rubbish and to be static in league 1, then free transfers are fine. If we struggle this coming season, then season tickets would not sell the following season, regardless of price. People are expecting a promotion push this coming season, simple as!!!

Yes you are right there, a great signing or two would create a buzz. But, the club can't be seen to be splashing the cash. instantly it puts up the potential cost of new players not to mention the wage demands. I have no doubt what so ever that if the right player was available at the right price Af would buy. He proved that by splashing out 250k on Simon Cox. As you rightly point out you don't have to splash out big to get championship quality. I just get sick & tired of some who expect STFC to suddenly become the Chelsea of Div 1, & moan that the board aren't spending. (They are, but wisely.) The same people expect others to stump up hundreds of thousands, but won't stump up a diacount season ticket them selves. I suspect the types of players that are being targetted are those who are currently unheard off. Types in the mould of Sam Parkin, before we signed him for 50k from Chelsea. Players who can't quite get into a premiership clubs first team but who have the talent. Just look at those who we've had on loan & some could have been signed (Davis, Carrick, Milner, were all unheard of when we got them)

Phil_S wrote:

M Mack wrote:

Phil_S wrote:

s.lovesey wrote: Are we seriously not prepared to pay a fee for any player, yet we are all supposed to be buying season tickets.....MMMM that sounds like a real deal !!!

Drrrrrrrrr, we are getting the season tickets at less than £10 a match. Th eclub aren't exactly going to be rolling in it are they? They are going to need to sell 4,500 to match last years, AND add 1,500 to the gate. AF & co have already parted with millions to save the club, they are now making football cheaper for us to watch. I would ask have YOU splashed the cash yet on an ST. If so good on yer, if not don't moan, put YOUR money where your mouth is, cos the new owners already have

You talk much sense Phil and I definately agree with you, but the thing that gets supporters excited is new and better players coming in. You don't have to spend big bucks to get Championship quality in and it is a sign of intent from the board and would sell more season tickets than anything else. You have to speculate to accumulate in any business. If you want rubbish and to be static in league 1, then free transfers are fine. If we struggle this coming season, then season tickets would not sell the following season, regardless of price. People are expecting a promotion push this coming season, simple as!!!

Yes you are right there, a great signing or two would create a buzz. But, the club can't be seen to be splashing the cash. instantly it puts up the potential cost of new players not to mention the wage demands. I have no doubt what so ever that if the right player was available at the right price Af would buy. He proved that by splashing out 250k on Simon Cox. As you rightly point out you don't have to splash out big to get championship quality. I just get sick & tired of some who expect STFC to suddenly become the Chelsea of Div 1, & moan that the board aren't spending. (They are, but wisely.) The same people expect others to stump up hundreds of thousands, but won't stump up a diacount season ticket them selves. I suspect the types of players that are being targetted are those who are currently unheard off. Types in the mould of Sam Parkin, before we signed him for 50k from Chelsea. Players who can't quite get into a premiership clubs first team but who have the talent. Just look at those who we've had on loan & some could have been signed (Davis, Carrick, Milner, were all unheard of when we got them)

janaage wrote:
Almost being relegated? Here was me thinking we finished 13 pts above the relegation zone, unbeaten in our last 4 matches playing some good football. Plymouth fans should be up in arms, their new manager, can't remember his name, took over a promotion chasing team and only finished 12 points above the relegation zone!! I really hope you don't buy a season ticket, or if you do you're not sat anywhere near me, your negativity is astounding.

Harry Potter wrote:

stfc4eva wrote: With MM stating that their wont be much spending on players in the close season. We will have mostly same squad of players as last season. All this crap about promotion is load crap. The currant squad was only good enough to finish 13th If we win promotion it will be biggest upset since we won league cup in 69. come october we will be looking for new manager.

Bingo!! Finally a town fan that talks some sense. Thank god. =o)

glasred wrote:
stfcRomain..I agree,they should be looking to spend,not silly money,but enough to get some quality new signings in to give us a shot at the play offs.There will be other clubs in leauge one willing to cough up sensible money for available players.If the board think they can achieve the same by getting free transfers instead,I fear they are sadly mistaken.SPECULATE TO ACUMALATE!!

old town red wrote:
What concerns me is that MM is of the belief that he already has top notch strikers and doesn't need to bring in a fox in the box. Joyce is just starting and it would be unfair to expect him to deliver 20 goals in his first season, but one never knows. Cox should be around the mark, but the other 4 will as harry potter quite rightly said struggle to make 20 games each let alone score 20 goals. For me they are no better than fringe players and if it means moving 2 of them out on loan to make room for 1 proven goal scoring striker, so be it, with 6 of them chasing 2 places it's a case of too much quantity and too little quality to make a genuine push for the championship.

old town red wrote:
What concerns me is that MM is of the belief that he already has top notch strikers and doesn't need to bring in a fox in the box. Joyce is just starting and it would be unfair to expect him to deliver 20 goals in his first season, but one never knows. Cox should be around the mark, but the other 4 will as harry potter quite rightly said struggle to make 20 games each let alone score 20 goals. For me they are no better than fringe players and if it means moving 2 of them out on loan to make room for 1 proven goal scoring striker, so be it, with 6 of them chasing 2 places it's a case of too much quantity and too little quality to make a genuine push for the championship.

glos_robin wrote:

janaage wrote: Almost being relegated? Here was me thinking we finished 13 pts above the relegation zone, unbeaten in our last 4 matches playing some good football. Plymouth fans should be up in arms, their new manager, can't remember his name, took over a promotion chasing team and only finished 12 points above the relegation zone!! I really hope you don't buy a season ticket, or if you do you're not sat anywhere near me, your negativity is astounding.

Saying you don't want someone to renew is an equally twatish thing to say though as everyone is entitled to their opinion. As it stands I'm sure we will spend some money over the summer as despite being a good deal some ambition needs to be shown as no one in this league buys a season ticket hoping to have a boring season in mid-table or struggling. If the club is to achieve Fitton's aim of reaching the play-offs then some fees will need to be paid and bigger wages paid otherwise we'll end up no better than we are now which is mid-table. 2500 of the 6000 season ticket holders next season will be 'new' season ticket holders and to try and make them regular season ticket holders in the future a decent season on the pitch will be needed to prove the money is worthwhile. If we struggle in the bottom half of the league for example we'd get no where near the 6000 mark the following season. The ticket price reduction is a novelty as you can't indefinately reduce prices so it needs to be made to count during 08/09. That's why I think eventually Fitton will have to pay-out at somepoint over the summer and probably will.

STFCcountyground wrote:
Im sure Fitton and co no what they are doing. People mite be put off by them not splashing out but i agree that we do-not really need to. we have an excellent youth team coming through, and the players we have now, bar a few (i.e. sturrock, pook and paynter), can certainly challenge next year. we will sign players, but even if they are on loan surely the better players will be more willing to play for us on loan, especially with the direction the club is going now etc. i know it might not bring the punters in without spending money, but fitton and the others will know what it takes and what personel they need to bring in for us to challenge next year. keeping the faith! STFC!!!!!

Android wrote:
This is just a thought but perhaps the board are testing the water to see what loyalty there is out there in support of STFC.There are a lot of bridges to be rebuilt after the last few years and they are weary of that.If we want a decent standard of football at Swindon we need to show our loyalty to them .I think they have tried to bild a bridge by lowering prices which is agood start because a lot of fans never came simply because they could not afford to go to all the games.I do think however that they do need to be seen spending some money.Not silly amounts but if they see a player they really need they must show that they mean business.This would definately speed up the sale of season tickets which are great prices.At the end of the day most fans who have not had a season ticket in the past will wait until they see who the new signings are.

glos_robin wrote:

janaage wrote: Almost being relegated? Here was me thinking we finished 13 pts above the relegation zone, unbeaten in our last 4 matches playing some good football. Plymouth fans should be up in arms, their new manager, can't remember his name, took over a promotion chasing team and only finished 12 points above the relegation zone!! I really hope you don't buy a season ticket, or if you do you're not sat anywhere near me, your negativity is astounding.

Saying you don't want someone to renew is an equally twatish thing to say though as everyone is entitled to their opinion. As it stands I'm sure we will spend some money over the summer as despite being a good deal some ambition needs to be shown as no one in this league buys a season ticket hoping to have a boring season in mid-table or struggling. If the club is to achieve Fitton's aim of reaching the play-offs then some fees will need to be paid and bigger wages paid otherwise we'll end up no better than we are now which is mid-table. 2500 of the 6000 season ticket holders next season will be 'new' season ticket holders and to try and make them regular season ticket holders in the future a decent season on the pitch will be needed to prove the money is worthwhile. If we struggle in the bottom half of the league for example we'd get no where near the 6000 mark the following season. The ticket price reduction is a novelty as you can't indefinately reduce prices so it needs to be made to count during 08/09. That's why I think eventually Fitton will have to pay-out at somepoint over the summer and probably will.

TonyJanson wrote:
Gosh ! Anyone would think the new season is about to start. We all want to see good football with good results but the transfer market is cloudy at present. AF and MM surely know which areas need strengthening and which youngsters are likely to make a serious impact next season. Money was found for Coxy and can probably be found again for the right player - even if he is an unknown from Falkirk ! As higher division clubs make their new signings other players are displaced and become available. We just have to be patient and keep our fingers crossed. Roll on August and COME ON YOU REDS !

glasred wrote:
Fitton @ Co probably want to keep their mega money low profile, so that other clubs dont push up the asking prices for players that they are selling!That does not mean we can get away with only making free transfers or loan signings if we SERIOUSLY have promotion in mind next season.Other clubs in leauge One WILL spend, and so must STFC to compete with them...carefully SPECULATE TO ACCUMALATE...AF @ Co..you will have to eventualy to get promotion!!!

josh_ maguire wrote:
In my opinion we should sell Paynter and Sturrock and ship out Joyce on loan to a Lge 2 club. Then MM has the opportunity to spend a little bit of money on a Striker who could get around 20 goals next season. I think that some one with the good vision and passing ability will be key to next season. I personally think that Darren Potter (Transfer Listed) from Wolves would be a great signing!! UP THE TOWN

steve wrote:

josh_ maguire wrote: In my opinion we should sell Paynter and Sturrock and ship out Joyce on loan to a Lge 2 club. Then MM has the opportunity to spend a little bit of money on a Striker who could get around 20 goals next season. I think that some one with the good vision and passing ability will be key to next season. I personally think that Darren Potter (Transfer Listed) from Wolves would be a great signing!! UP THE TOWN

That's not a bad shout there josh but maybe keep Joyce here and use him before deciding whether to loan him out or not, agree potter would be a good player in Lge 1.

josh_ maguire wrote:
In my opinion we should sell Paynter and Sturrock and ship out Joyce on loan to a Lge 2 club. Then MM has the opportunity to spend a little bit of money on a Striker who could get around 20 goals next season. I think that some one with the good vision and passing ability will be key to next season. I personally think that Darren Potter (Transfer Listed) from Wolves would be a great signing!! UP THE TOWN