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7:50am Thursday 9th February 2012 in Sport By Andrew Warren
CHIEF executive Nick Watkins has urged Swindon Town fans not to panic as the clamour to secure tickets for the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy final at Wembley begins.
Following Tuesday night’s area final victory over Barnet, Town have been allocated 30,600 tickets in the west half of the stadium for the game on Sunday March 25, and fans are understandably desperate to make sure they are part of the travelling red army.
Watkins and staff from across all areas of the club are set to meet today to discuss plans for Wembley, and the chief executive has called on fans to be patient.
“There is no need for any fans to push the panic button,” he told the Advertiser. “We will not have the tickets at the club until next week some time. But what we should say to fans is that they should rest easy, there are plenty of tickets to go around and every fan who wants tickets will get them.
“The Football League and Wembley itself are very prescriptive on what you can and can not do in terms of ticket arrangements and prices and things like that, so we have to work within those boundaries.”
Watkins told the Advertiser the club will almost certainly outsource ticket sales to a specialist ticket company, in the same way it did for the League One play-off final in 2010, and there will be a priority scheme in place for Season Ticket holders and Club Red members.
“We simply do not have the phone line capacity at the club to cope with the huge demand for tickets, so it is probably best we outsource the sales,” he said. “This is what we did for the play-off final and it seemed to work then, as everybody seemed to get what they wanted in terms of tickets.”
The club are also looking at the option of creating a ‘singing area’ where fans who like to chant can be together to watch the game and cheer on their team.
“We will certainly look at that and discuss what the ticket office can do to facilitate that, as it would certainly be good to have an area of vocal fans cheering on the team like that,” Watkins said. “It will be a brilliant day for everyone connected with the club.”
It is not yet clear how much the club will earn from taking part in the game, but today’s meeting will also be used to discuss ways of marking the special day.
“We have to remember it is a shared gate, so the amount each club earns will depend on how many the other club brings, and how many tickets the Football League take and that sort of thing.
“There are lots of things that will be discussed because there is a huge amount of things to organise for a trip to Wembley, and we never tempt fate by doing any of these before we have made sure we are there.
“We will talk about whether we will sell merchandise to mark the day, and whether we will play in a special shirt or not, that sort of thing.
“There is a lot to organise, but we will aim to keep the fans updated as much as possible.”
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LionelHutz
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8:07am Thu 9 Feb 12
mowgli
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8:07am Thu 9 Feb 12
London Red
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stfcknowitall
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LionelHutz wrote:Amen my friend. I couln't give a t**s if people don't like me singing at the top of my voice, what I call a good football match is when Im going home with absolutely no voice left and a rather sore throat!! Cant wait for Wembley .Just hope the FA or whoever price it right so it attracts rather than puts people off going. Id say 25 quid would be reasonable, cant see it being the same as the play off final which was 35 to 60 quid if I remember righty
"Special shirt"? Urgh. Surely the club has cocked up on this front enough already. Just play in our usual home kit please. Also, I don't care which section I am in, I will be singing at the top of my voice no matter who is around me or how ever much I am scowled at.
LionelHutz
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8:29am Thu 9 Feb 12
Oxon-Red
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8:29am Thu 9 Feb 12
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:The singing area could be nominated by the club and advertised prior to the tickets going on sale e.g. Singing area Blocks x,y and z. People can then request these areas when buying the tickets.
The outsourcing of the ticket sales was an absolute shambles for the last play off final. I should have billed the club for my two hour phone bill to a premium telephone line. Good idea on the singing area but how you ensure people buy tickets in that area will sing is beyond me. Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.
CraigClark
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8:32am Thu 9 Feb 12
BrisVegas Red
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8:36am Thu 9 Feb 12
umpcah
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8:37am Thu 9 Feb 12
STFC Tony
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8:38am Thu 9 Feb 12
The-Swindon-Man
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8:38am Thu 9 Feb 12
the don69
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8:48am Thu 9 Feb 12
London Red wrote:How much do you think the club will make out of this game LR?and what is our % cut of the gate(lets say the gate will be around 50,000(could be a bit more)that's if your not busy today?hahaha.
I booked 18 PO tickets in the exact spot I wanted within 10 mins of picking the phone up and dialling - shambles is the complete opposite of what I would have called it
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Though in 2012 can't believe no online version is available
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You simply send ST holders a code to log in on day 1
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Club Red get a code to get in from day 3 say
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Then anyone from day 5
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Have same thing on phone and face to face and everyone is happy!
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Special Shirt - err - no - to late should have made the FA cup kit a cup kit and worn it in all 3 comps!
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Should do this next year as sponsorship money can be driven up
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Also more likely to sell if likely to be worn more
Moonraker1983
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8:49am Thu 9 Feb 12
Davidsyrett
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8:58am Thu 9 Feb 12
stfcknowitall wrote:Chesterfield website quoting ticket prices between £26-£46. Concessions £13-£23. They been offered 21K tickets.
LionelHutz wrote: "Special shirt"? Urgh. Surely the club has cocked up on this front enough already. Just play in our usual home kit please. Also, I don't care which section I am in, I will be singing at the top of my voice no matter who is around me or how ever much I am scowled at.Amen my friend. I couln't give a t**s if people don't like me singing at the top of my voice, what I call a good football match is when Im going home with absolutely no voice left and a rather sore throat!! Cant wait for Wembley .Just hope the FA or whoever price it right so it attracts rather than puts people off going. Id say 25 quid would be reasonable, cant see it being the same as the play off final which was 35 to 60 quid if I remember righty
Is that you Lovesey
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8:59am Thu 9 Feb 12
SAPFanSTFC
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9:01am Thu 9 Feb 12
CraigClark wrote:As per my post last night I think we need 2 or 3 sections so that we can get our Red Army and other chants bouncing around the stadium - also gives an incentive to a lot of others around them to get others who may not normally go involved.
A singing section would be a brilliant idea, the play off final lacked atmosphere hugely. Imagine a section the size of the town end roaring at the top of their voices. Let's just play in our home colours please board!
Lanky
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9:02am Thu 9 Feb 12
LionelHutz wrote:I think that the complaints weren't so much about singing, more about people stood up (By the way, i'm one of the people who was stood up and singing).
"Special shirt"? Urgh. Surely the club has cocked up on this front enough already. Just play in our usual home kit please.
Also, I don't care which section I am in, I will be singing at the top of my voice no matter who is around me or how ever much I am scowled at.
Rhs Boydy
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9:05am Thu 9 Feb 12
stokes_stfc
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9:05am Thu 9 Feb 12
CraigClark
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9:12am Thu 9 Feb 12
Lanky wrote:My best mate is born and bred chesterfield fan but lives and works in Swindon, the day is going to be fantastic and I've got a good feeling the bragging rights will be mine the next morning! Haha does anyone know why chesterfield have only been allocated 21,000 tickets?
LionelHutz wrote: "Special shirt"? Urgh. Surely the club has cocked up on this front enough already. Just play in our usual home kit please. Also, I don't care which section I am in, I will be singing at the top of my voice no matter who is around me or how ever much I am scowled at.I think that the complaints weren't so much about singing, more about people stood up (By the way, i'm one of the people who was stood up and singing). And the thing is, I can see their point of view as there was kids behind me. But the people in front of me were stood up, so I didn't have much choice. So I don't see why you would avoid the singing area just because you are a 'real fan' and Swindon fans 'do what they want'. This sounds like a good idea by the club that suits all parties, and if I had kids that couldn't see, I'd tell you to sit down or move to the singing area.
grove red
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9:13am Thu 9 Feb 12
London Red
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9:14am Thu 9 Feb 12
Lanky
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9:14am Thu 9 Feb 12
CraigClark wrote:I was wondering about the lower allocation as well? I assumed it was just due to less demand, maybe less of a fan base?
Lanky wrote:My best mate is born and bred chesterfield fan but lives and works in Swindon, the day is going to be fantastic and I've got a good feeling the bragging rights will be mine the next morning! Haha does anyone know why chesterfield have only been allocated 21,000 tickets?
LionelHutz wrote: "Special shirt"? Urgh. Surely the club has cocked up on this front enough already. Just play in our usual home kit please. Also, I don't care which section I am in, I will be singing at the top of my voice no matter who is around me or how ever much I am scowled at.I think that the complaints weren't so much about singing, more about people stood up (By the way, i'm one of the people who was stood up and singing). And the thing is, I can see their point of view as there was kids behind me. But the people in front of me were stood up, so I didn't have much choice. So I don't see why you would avoid the singing area just because you are a 'real fan' and Swindon fans 'do what they want'. This sounds like a good idea by the club that suits all parties, and if I had kids that couldn't see, I'd tell you to sit down or move to the singing area.
stokes_stfc
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9:15am Thu 9 Feb 12
sideshow
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9:19am Thu 9 Feb 12
NEWBURYREDS
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9:22am Thu 9 Feb 12
Jimbos lunch
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9:29am Thu 9 Feb 12
the don69
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9:32am Thu 9 Feb 12
London Red wrote:Cheer's LR,
The idea of a singing section is not to stop someone being annoyed by having someone else singing near them - but to generate an atmosphere
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If you took the Town End Core and spread them over the entire CG the atmosphere would not be the same - ala Wembley 2010! (Though the fact that we were cack didn't help!)
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I think it should not be hard to organise either
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As said get a set area designated and then when you go to the ticket office or call up you say can I have a ticket in Cat X in the singing block - the people who are selling know where that is and allocate acorrdingly
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Though as mentioned above if unoffically allocated it can be done by fans - just facebook it and tweet it and post it on every fans site there is and the message should get through
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Then if BBC and the Adver join in they can advertise the area too!
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Don - I have no idea really as NW has said depends on lots of factors and primarily the gate
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The revenue is split evenly - I guess similar to the FA Cup of 45% to each club
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So when Carlisle made 500k - they were aided by the fact Southampton sold over 44,000 tickets - yet Carlisle got 45% of each of those sales!
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So Even if we sold 40k to Chesterfield's 20k we would both get 45% of 60k
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I would guess the day itself will easily be worth 250k-500k for us
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Not bad for the **** pot cup and certainly more revenue than made from the other cups put together!
Northern Red
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9:33am Thu 9 Feb 12
InspectorIOM
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MITTED
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10:17am Thu 9 Feb 12
MITTED
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10:24am Thu 9 Feb 12
Stickshaker
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10:40am Thu 9 Feb 12
Jimbos lunch
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Jimbos lunch
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SeanG92
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RedBrum
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11:19am Thu 9 Feb 12
stfc2012
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11:23am Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step
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Cosmic Mango
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11:24am Thu 9 Feb 12
London Red wrote:I recall selecting seats online and booking the whole thing in a matter of minutes for 2010 playoffs. All ridiculously straight forward. Are u sure you didn't try online then...?!
I booked 18 PO tickets in the exact spot I wanted within 10 mins of picking the phone up and dialling - shambles is the complete opposite of what I would have called it
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Though in 2012 can't believe no online version is available
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You simply send ST holders a code to log in on day 1
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Club Red get a code to get in from day 3 say
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Then anyone from day 5
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Have same thing on phone and face to face and everyone is happy!
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Special Shirt - err - no - to late should have made the FA cup kit a cup kit and worn it in all 3 comps!
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Should do this next year as sponsorship money can be driven up
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Also more likely to sell if likely to be worn more
Even Angrier Monkey
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11:36am Thu 9 Feb 12
London Red wrote:Hang on, I'm almost certain that I booked my play off final tickets online rather tahn over the phone
I booked 18 PO tickets in the exact spot I wanted within 10 mins of picking the phone up and dialling - shambles is the complete opposite of what I would have called it . Though in 2012 can't believe no online version is available . You simply send ST holders a code to log in on day 1 . Club Red get a code to get in from day 3 say . Then anyone from day 5 . Have same thing on phone and face to face and everyone is happy! . Special Shirt - err - no - to late should have made the FA cup kit a cup kit and worn it in all 3 comps! . Should do this next year as sponsorship money can be driven up . Also more likely to sell if likely to be worn more
Even Angrier Monkey
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11:37am Thu 9 Feb 12
Oi Den!
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11:55am Thu 9 Feb 12
CraigClark wrote:Apparently initial allocations are on the basis of likely sales, as estimated by the two clubs.
Lanky wrote:My best mate is born and bred chesterfield fan but lives and works in Swindon, the day is going to be fantastic and I've got a good feeling the bragging rights will be mine the next morning! Haha does anyone know why chesterfield have only been allocated 21,000 tickets?LionelHutz wrote: "Special shirt"? Urgh. Surely the club has cocked up on this front enough already. Just play in our usual home kit please. Also, I don't care which section I am in, I will be singing at the top of my voice no matter who is around me or how ever much I am scowled at.I think that the complaints weren't so much about singing, more about people stood up (By the way, i'm one of the people who was stood up and singing). And the thing is, I can see their point of view as there was kids behind me. But the people in front of me were stood up, so I didn't have much choice. So I don't see why you would avoid the singing area just because you are a 'real fan' and Swindon fans 'do what they want'. This sounds like a good idea by the club that suits all parties, and if I had kids that couldn't see, I'd tell you to sit down or move to the singing area.
madterrier
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11:56am Thu 9 Feb 12
Terryswin
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12:52pm Thu 9 Feb 12
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:i agree outsourcing was not good last time round..... should sell at ticket office and on line... 10,000 online sale;s and 20,000 from club ticket office.
The outsourcing of the ticket sales was an absolute shambles for the last play off final. I should have billed the club for my two hour phone bill to a premium telephone line.
Good idea on the singing area but how you ensure people buy tickets in that area will sing is beyond me.
Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.
Swindon1984
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12:52pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Even Angrier Monkey wrote:Me too.
London Red wrote: I booked 18 PO tickets in the exact spot I wanted within 10 mins of picking the phone up and dialling - shambles is the complete opposite of what I would have called it . Though in 2012 can't believe no online version is available . You simply send ST holders a code to log in on day 1 . Club Red get a code to get in from day 3 say . Then anyone from day 5 . Have same thing on phone and face to face and everyone is happy! . Special Shirt - err - no - to late should have made the FA cup kit a cup kit and worn it in all 3 comps! . Should do this next year as sponsorship money can be driven up . Also more likely to sell if likely to be worn moreHang on, I'm almost certain that I booked my play off final tickets online rather tahn over the phone
MITTED
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1:05pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Terryswin
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1:12pm Thu 9 Feb 12
MITTED wrote:I agree,,,,,,, i for one only pay in cash.i dont use payment onlne. and there are many like me that can only pay in cash................
Once upon a time for big games, batches of tickets were distributed amongst the turnstiles and you walked through, paid cash to the operator, received your ticket(s) and walked out the exit. No technology needed, just simple common sense.
This would take a huge burden off the ticket office who have to use the technology to process those paying by card.
Last step
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2:01pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Swindon1984
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2:32pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step wrote:Would be a lot harder to justify the scandalous "booking fees" if it were pay on the turnstiles!
A pay on the gate game at Wembley? That'll be the day!
Oi Den!
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2:49pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step wrote:I don't think that's what he means. We used to queue at the County Ground turnstiles for tickets, buy the ticket for cash, go through the turnstile and come straight out of the ground with ticket.
A pay on the gate game at Wembley? That'll be the day!
MITTED
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3:10pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step wrote:I didn't mean Wembley, I meant for advance sales at the CG. No booking fee, limited queues = happier fans and ticket office staff.
A pay on the gate game at Wembley? That'll be the day!
smirg kcab
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4:18pm Thu 9 Feb 12
smirg kcab
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4:22pm Thu 9 Feb 12
MITTED wrote:have you seen the people on the turnstyles?. would you trust them with cash?
Once upon a time for big games, batches of tickets were distributed amongst the turnstiles and you walked through, paid cash to the operator, received your ticket(s) and walked out the exit. No technology needed, just simple common sense. This would take a huge burden off the ticket office who have to use the technology to process those paying by card.
swindonjason
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4:41pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step wrote:That would probably also be the case if tickets are available.
A pay on the gate game at Wembley? That'll be the day!
swindonjason
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4:41pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step wrote:That would probably also be the case if tickets are available.
A pay on the gate game at Wembley? That'll be the day!
PatH32
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4:46pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Swindon1984
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5:10pm Thu 9 Feb 12
PatH32 wrote:I'm positive you didn't need to have a Swindon postcode to buy tickets for last time - I had a Southampton postcode in 2010 and had no problems. Sales were prioritised, rightly so, to ST holders initially, and then what was left over went on general release, but I can't see there being any problems getting tickets. May be an option to extend the allocation if we sell over 30,000 within a few weeks, but I doubt it'd be neccessary. However, it's nice that people are worried about getting tickets, shows that demand will at least be high!
If the Club do decide to outsource these tickets let's hope there is some provision made for us overseas supporters; the Play Off final was a complete no go as, from memory, applications were only being accepted if you had a Swindon postcode!
avo
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5:33pm Thu 9 Feb 12
swindonjason
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5:53pm Thu 9 Feb 12
PatH32 wrote:Not for Wembley it wasn't. It was some league game, I think it was the Leeds game that this was implemented for.
If the Club do decide to outsource these tickets let's hope there is some provision made for us overseas supporters; the Play Off final was a complete no go as, from memory, applications were only being accepted if you had a Swindon postcode!
swindonjason
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5:57pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Oi Den!
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6:26pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Last step
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6:35pm Thu 9 Feb 12
swidonpremiership
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6:55pm Thu 9 Feb 12
avo wrote:The `day trippers` will have to have sourced the number to ring - that source could then explain the singing area - no problem
A 'singing area' is a good idea, but a problem with it is that it's all well and good people spreading the message through media and social networking outlets etc, but it's the die hards that will generally pick those pieces of information up isn't it? * The day trippers (no offence intended) probably do not subscribe to those sources for information about STFC, and will ring up willy nilly and go 'oh a ticket behind the goal please'! You'll still end up with the same problem as 2010.
smirg kcab
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7:12pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Oi Den! wrote:£60 a bargain to see di canio carried up all those stairs to collect the cup.
It's all very good news for both clubs but the economics of this competition are crazy. The average attendance throughout has been just over 3,000 and people are now expected to pay between £26 and £60 for the final. The original idea of using Wembley for domestic games was to cater for high demand. What we have now is the venue itself creating the demand. The tail is wagging the dog.
avo
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7:19pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Oi Den!
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7:30pm Thu 9 Feb 12
smirg kcab
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7:36pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Jimbos lunch wrote:so I caught it from her.?
Plenty to go around
that's what my x wife used to say.......
HardwickeRed
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7:45pm Thu 9 Feb 12
smirg kcab
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7:48pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Oi Den! wrote:Good man, just remember to go in that sweet shop before the game.we will all be like kids in a sweet shop at 12noon.
Good post grim. I always said I wouldn't go to Wembley if we got there, but I've decided I will go, for two reasons: family pressure and out of respect for Di Canio and what he has achieved so far. But I do get a bit miffed by the fact that people don't support the competition and all of a sudden they think it's worth watching because the final is at Wembley. I bet we (and Chesterfield) would struggle to fill our ground if the final was played on a home and away basis.
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On a general note, I really do think Wembley has been devalued as a football venue by the number of games played there these days. I know I'm old fashioned but I think it should be reserved for games that cannot possibly be played elsewhere because of huge demand for tickets. I think this is part of the reason the FA Cup has lost its sparkle in the eyes of so many people (but not me).
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You're right about the 09/10 play-off debacle. Deep down, we probably all knew we were going to get turned over that day - but we had to live in hope that we would sneak an undeserved promotion.
HardwickeRed
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7:54pm Thu 9 Feb 12
smirg kcab wrote:Will a fiver do? The Mrs is comming and she wont let me have a tenner
Oi Den! wrote:Good man, just remember to go in that sweet shop before the game.we will all be like kids in a sweet shop at 12noon.
Good post grim. I always said I wouldn't go to Wembley if we got there, but I've decided I will go, for two reasons: family pressure and out of respect for Di Canio and what he has achieved so far. But I do get a bit miffed by the fact that people don't support the competition and all of a sudden they think it's worth watching because the final is at Wembley. I bet we (and Chesterfield) would struggle to fill our ground if the final was played on a home and away basis.
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On a general note, I really do think Wembley has been devalued as a football venue by the number of games played there these days. I know I'm old fashioned but I think it should be reserved for games that cannot possibly be played elsewhere because of huge demand for tickets. I think this is part of the reason the FA Cup has lost its sparkle in the eyes of so many people (but not me).
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You're right about the 09/10 play-off debacle. Deep down, we probably all knew we were going to get turned over that day - but we had to live in hope that we would sneak an undeserved promotion.
Joking aside you are correct on the wembley being deluded and couldnt agree more, this will be special because I believe the noise that we will generate will be different due to the millwall factor. Also let's get our tenners out and sing to the northern monkeys wots it like to see ten pounds, like we done at newcastle years ago
Onwards and upwards
swidonpremiership
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7:57pm Thu 9 Feb 12
smirg kcab
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9:05pm Thu 9 Feb 12
HardwickeRed wrote:I told my wife she hasn't seen it hardwickred for years, and she should have made the most of it.Will it ever happen again? She needs a new model
All i want is to see Swindon parade a cup around Wembley. End off. Simple. Very few of us have seen it before and God knows if we ever will again. Lets make the most of it!!
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dreamofacleansheet2 says...
7:55am Thu 9 Feb 12
Good idea on the singing area but how you ensure people buy tickets in that area will sing is beyond me.
Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.