No happy return for Austin as Town down Clarets

Swindon Advertiser: Charlie Austin scored but could not inspire a Burnley win at the County Ground last night Charlie Austin scored but could not inspire a Burnley win at the County Ground last night

CHARLIE Austin scored on his return to the County Ground but ended up on the losing side as Swindon Town marched into the fourth round of the League Cup for the first time since 1994/95.

The former Swindon striker received plenty of verbal stick from the home crowd throughout, and was frequently reminded that his current side were losing, as he came back to his old club for the first time since his £1.2million move to Turf Moor in January last year.

And those chants would no doubt have been ringing in his and his Burnley teammates’ ears as they made the long trek back to the north west having been dumped out of the competition by lower league opposition.

Swindon played well throughout a game that oozed Championship calibre and enhanced their remarkable reputation as giant-killers under Paolo Di Canio.

The Robins had Paul Benson, Andy Williams and Troy Archibald-Henville to thank for the goals which secured their eighth victory over higher-ranked opponents under Di Canio’s reign, with Austin’s strike with 15 minutes remaining rendered utterly redundant.

The Town fans were reminded that while Austin is very much the past, this Swindon team is set for a bright future.

The hosts were given an early warning of Burnley’s attacking potential in the third minute, when Kieran Trippier’s corner from the right was dummied through to Austin who lashed over from 15 yards.

The striker should have at least hit the target but, as if the home side needed any reminding, it showed Austin’s uncanny knack of finding space in the area.

Three minutes later the bricklayer-turned-goalscoring machine used a different aspect of his game to come so close to edging Burnley in front.

Ross Wallace’s corner floated into the box where Austin outmuscled his marker to rise highest and head goalwards. Only Alan Navarro’s clearing boot on the line kept Swindon’s clean sheet intact.

Chris McCann thought he had nudged the Clarets ahead in the ninth minute, steering home after Austin had miskicked Marvin Bartley’s cross, but the linesman’s offside flag cut short his celebrations.

Having sponged up the pressure in the early minutes, Town soon discovered a natural rhythm and with their first shot on goal took the lead in the 19th minute.

A short corner routine from the left ended with Jay McEveley whipping the ball in from the left.

The Burnley defence stood and stared, as if waiting for each other to lay laces to leather, and Benson took advantage to calmly sweep home with his left foot - a sublime finish that lifted the County Ground crowd off their seats.

The fans in the Town End were quick to mock Austin with chants of ‘Charlie, Charlie what’s the score?’ The ex-Town frontman was almost able to turn around and say ‘1-1’ seconds later, but Chris McCann could only direct his header from Austin’s cross straight at Foderingham as the Clarets set out in search of a quick response.

Burnley looked the more composed on the ball when they had it at feet but Swindon remained resolute defensively, and Austin became more and more anonymous as the period progressed.

With such a solid foundation, the Robins had given themselves the perfect platform from which to launch the odd assault on the visitors’ goal.

While frequently the Town forays into opposition territory came to nothing, with three minutes left of the first half one particular attack came to another glorious conclusion.

David Edgar’s poor pass out of defence fell to Tommy Miller who stayed strong in the tackle to release Williams.

Until a week ago the former Yeovil striker seemed to be cursed in front of goal, but over the course of seven days he has transformed into the clinical finisher he was hired to be and he made no mistake in sliding the ball beneath Brian Jensen to send Swindon into the break two goals ahead.

After the break Town quickly got back into the flow they had established in the first half, Ritchie’s free-kick from 18 yards, after Benson was hauled down, flew off the wall and out for a corner.

Navarro then saw his shot stopped by Jensen before Foderingham produced a sensational save at the other end to keep Swindon two goals ahead.

Trippier’s fizzing free-kick from deep on the right flew to the back post where substitute Sam Vokes’ point-blank header seemed destined for the bottom corner, only for the Robins keeper to spread himself wide and push the ball to safety.

Williams, full of confidence, showed the Burnley defence his Road Runner impression to ghost into the area in the 58th minute, but the former Yeovil man could not find the unmarked Roberts for an easy tap-in.

Evidently unhappy at the prospect of having to settle for two and shut up shop, Swindon risked being stretched in midfield to find a killer third goal.

It almost worked when Roberts picked out Ritchie at the back post, but the winger’s diving header was well-saved by Jensen.

But it was the visitors who were next on the scoresheet, and if Burnley were going to register it was only ever going to be through one man.

Vokes crossed low from the right and his inch-perfect pass fell into the stride pattern of Austin, who danced around Foderingham to tap home.

In the previous round at Stoke, Town had held a two-goal lead at the break only to be forced into extra-time and the Robins were desperately trying to avoid a repeat situation as Burnley piled on the pressure.

Thompson blocked Austin’s neat shot on the turn and, while Williams almost notched his second with a curling shot from the edge of the area, the Clarets were largely on top.

However, Town sealed victory and progression to round four with six minutes remaining.

McEveley’s free-kick from the left was low to the back post and, though Archibald-Henville’s header lacked power, it somehow squirmed through the grasp of Jensen.

There was still time for Swindon to go close to notching a fourth. Simon Ferry, on for Navarro, cantered into the area and his teasing cross picked out Roberts whose deflected effort was hacked off the line by Trippier.

But in the end three had to do.

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6:04am Wed 26 Sep 12

mustard red says...

This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin...

Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End.

His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you!
This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you! mustard red

6:21am Wed 26 Sep 12

louiscassius says...

mustard red wrote:
This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin...

Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End.

His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you!
Oh my god..........

Thats the funniest post i've read for a long time.......

Ner, ner, ner...... what a childish post

Oh bless him....did he not celebrate, oh that makes his past personal & transfer actions ok...

Lets all forgive him then....Hahaha..

No chance!!

Good luck to the fella; but he left bitter taste in most fans mouths when he left our Club , and I for one will not forgive what he did.

Now you go have a nice day now, and remember.......

Take ya unbrella, it might be raining today....

Louis :-))))
[quote][p][bold]mustard red[/bold] wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you![/p][/quote]Oh my god.......... Thats the funniest post i've read for a long time....... Ner, ner, ner...... what a childish post Oh bless him....did he not celebrate, oh that makes his past personal & transfer actions ok... Lets all forgive him then....Hahaha.. No chance!! Good luck to the fella; but he left bitter taste in most fans mouths when he left our Club , and I for one will not forgive what he did. Now you go have a nice day now, and remember....... Take ya unbrella, it might be raining today.... Louis :-)))) louiscassius

6:33am Wed 26 Sep 12

who am i says...

mustard red wrote:
This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin...

Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End.

His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you!
Complete and Utter Riubbish just because he applauded the fans and diddnt celebrate dont make me laugh, whats that got too do with anything he is hardly going too sulk off is he. I hope i never see this greedy so and so again.
[quote][p][bold]mustard red[/bold] wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you![/p][/quote]Complete and Utter Riubbish just because he applauded the fans and diddnt celebrate dont make me laugh, whats that got too do with anything he is hardly going too sulk off is he. I hope i never see this greedy so and so again. who am i

6:50am Wed 26 Sep 12

Malkym says...

louiscassius wrote:
mustard red wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you!
Oh my god.......... Thats the funniest post i've read for a long time....... Ner, ner, ner...... what a childish post Oh bless him....did he not celebrate, oh that makes his past personal & transfer actions ok... Lets all forgive him then....Hahaha.. No chance!! Good luck to the fella; but he left bitter taste in most fans mouths when he left our Club , and I for one will not forgive what he did. Now you go have a nice day now, and remember....... Take ya unbrella, it might be raining today.... Louis :-))))
Great game and well worth a tenner - great performance and as Mustard says gracious acknowledgement from Charlie, who despite the predictable abuse, proved that he is still a quality player -well you don't get to be the current leading scorer in all four divisions by being no good.

Asise from your petulant Charlie jibes Louis did you enjoy watching the game? I assuming that you were there of course?
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mustard red[/bold] wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you![/p][/quote]Oh my god.......... Thats the funniest post i've read for a long time....... Ner, ner, ner...... what a childish post Oh bless him....did he not celebrate, oh that makes his past personal & transfer actions ok... Lets all forgive him then....Hahaha.. No chance!! Good luck to the fella; but he left bitter taste in most fans mouths when he left our Club , and I for one will not forgive what he did. Now you go have a nice day now, and remember....... Take ya unbrella, it might be raining today.... Louis :-))))[/p][/quote]Great game and well worth a tenner - great performance and as Mustard says gracious acknowledgement from Charlie, who despite the predictable abuse, proved that he is still a quality player -well you don't get to be the current leading scorer in all four divisions by being no good. Asise from your petulant Charlie jibes Louis did you enjoy watching the game? I assuming that you were there of course? Malkym

6:51am Wed 26 Sep 12

Malkym says...

oops typo -should be Aside.
oops typo -should be Aside. Malkym

6:58am Wed 26 Sep 12

louiscassius says...

Malkym wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
mustard red wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you!
Oh my god.......... Thats the funniest post i've read for a long time....... Ner, ner, ner...... what a childish post Oh bless him....did he not celebrate, oh that makes his past personal & transfer actions ok... Lets all forgive him then....Hahaha.. No chance!! Good luck to the fella; but he left bitter taste in most fans mouths when he left our Club , and I for one will not forgive what he did. Now you go have a nice day now, and remember....... Take ya unbrella, it might be raining today.... Louis :-))))
Great game and well worth a tenner - great performance and as Mustard says gracious acknowledgement from Charlie, who despite the predictable abuse, proved that he is still a quality player -well you don't get to be the current leading scorer in all four divisions by being no good.

Asise from your petulant Charlie jibes Louis did you enjoy watching the game? I assuming that you were there of course?
I'm In Harrogate buddy...

But i did enjoy listening to it thank you for asking...

I hope you have a dry day....

Cheers buddy

Louis :-)))
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mustard red[/bold] wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you![/p][/quote]Oh my god.......... Thats the funniest post i've read for a long time....... Ner, ner, ner...... what a childish post Oh bless him....did he not celebrate, oh that makes his past personal & transfer actions ok... Lets all forgive him then....Hahaha.. No chance!! Good luck to the fella; but he left bitter taste in most fans mouths when he left our Club , and I for one will not forgive what he did. Now you go have a nice day now, and remember....... Take ya unbrella, it might be raining today.... Louis :-))))[/p][/quote]Great game and well worth a tenner - great performance and as Mustard says gracious acknowledgement from Charlie, who despite the predictable abuse, proved that he is still a quality player -well you don't get to be the current leading scorer in all four divisions by being no good. Asise from your petulant Charlie jibes Louis did you enjoy watching the game? I assuming that you were there of course?[/p][/quote]I'm In Harrogate buddy... But i did enjoy listening to it thank you for asking... I hope you have a dry day.... Cheers buddy Louis :-))) louiscassius

7:24am Wed 26 Sep 12

Baritone says...

Charlie went from one employer to another to earn much more money. I have done so many times in a past career - as, I suspect, have many of his abusers. Also, remember that Charlie could have left much earlier than he did but he stayed on longer than he needed to help what was a bad team. I do not condone the rumoured actions in his private life but lets be fair - he was a good servant to the club.

......which brings me to the question of the obscenities from the Town End. Normally, I am a great fan of the Town End crowd. They are always very vocally supportive and have provided many wonderful moments of inventive wit and humour but I do wish they would remember that we are a family club with a great majority of supporters who find such behaviour totally distasteful.

No doubt I shall now be abused for for my comments!
Charlie went from one employer to another to earn much more money. I have done so many times in a past career - as, I suspect, have many of his abusers. Also, remember that Charlie could have left much earlier than he did but he stayed on longer than he needed to help what was a bad team. I do not condone the rumoured actions in his private life but lets be fair - he was a good servant to the club. ......which brings me to the question of the obscenities from the Town End. Normally, I am a great fan of the Town End crowd. They are always very vocally supportive and have provided many wonderful moments of inventive wit and humour but I do wish they would remember that we are a family club with a great majority of supporters who find such behaviour totally distasteful. No doubt I shall now be abused for for my comments! Baritone

7:46am Wed 26 Sep 12

the real Tosh man says...

Charlie got stick to put him off his game as every dangerous player receives. The town end though, did sing his song at the end in a sort our manner in which to let him know that it was just sledging and not personal. Fair enough I think.
Charlie got stick to put him off his game as every dangerous player receives. The town end though, did sing his song at the end in a sort our manner in which to let him know that it was just sledging and not personal. Fair enough I think. the real Tosh man

7:51am Wed 26 Sep 12

Welsh Wizard says...

Abused Baritone? Not at all, I agree with all that you say. The abusive chants were disgraceful and only made Charlie play harder. He joined a new club for more money as simple as that. As for the rumours about private life? Dont believe all you hear.
Abused Baritone? Not at all, I agree with all that you say. The abusive chants were disgraceful and only made Charlie play harder. He joined a new club for more money as simple as that. As for the rumours about private life? Dont believe all you hear. Welsh Wizard

7:53am Wed 26 Sep 12

the wizard says...

And so the Charlie Austin debate continues, not surprising really as it is so topical.
He came here very much the boy, and at times behaved like one, taking his chances both on and off the field and earned himself that reputation, and rightly so, if you play away from home and get caught then thats what happens.

It seems to me that since leaving he has now learned from his mistakes and has become Charlie Austin the man, no longer the trowel in one hand and cycle rack shorts held up by the other.

He weathered a storm of verbals all evening, but realised it was from a minority who needed to get it out of their system, but he had a message for the rest, he can still score a goal, do it with grace, not milk it for glory and remembered those who cherished him for such a brief but all important part of his career and applauded them to underline that. He probably went away with mixed feelings, and maybe to a point is envious of what is happening here right now, and maybe asking the question, what if things had been different.

There is no doubt he had a murky past here in his private life, but much of that was down to bad management who should have mentored him far better, but its all gone now. Good to see him having time with Ritchie and Ferry after that final whistle.
Charlie Austin left and was still a boy, last night he returned very much Charlie Austin the man, well done.
And so the Charlie Austin debate continues, not surprising really as it is so topical. He came here very much the boy, and at times behaved like one, taking his chances both on and off the field and earned himself that reputation, and rightly so, if you play away from home and get caught then thats what happens. It seems to me that since leaving he has now learned from his mistakes and has become Charlie Austin the man, no longer the trowel in one hand and cycle rack shorts held up by the other. He weathered a storm of verbals all evening, but realised it was from a minority who needed to get it out of their system, but he had a message for the rest, he can still score a goal, do it with grace, not milk it for glory and remembered those who cherished him for such a brief but all important part of his career and applauded them to underline that. He probably went away with mixed feelings, and maybe to a point is envious of what is happening here right now, and maybe asking the question, what if things had been different. There is no doubt he had a murky past here in his private life, but much of that was down to bad management who should have mentored him far better, but its all gone now. Good to see him having time with Ritchie and Ferry after that final whistle. Charlie Austin left and was still a boy, last night he returned very much Charlie Austin the man, well done. the wizard

8:00am Wed 26 Sep 12

southside7 says...

I clapped Austin at the end purely for the memories of a great season and commitment on the pitch. Glad he showed more class than the boo boys at the final whistle.
I clapped Austin at the end purely for the memories of a great season and commitment on the pitch. Glad he showed more class than the boo boys at the final whistle. southside7

8:13am Wed 26 Sep 12

Another view says...

Obvioulsy the majority of the croud is in the Don Rogers, yet I didn't hear anything abusive from there. Plenty of banter, then applause for him at the end.
Obvioulsy the majority of the croud is in the Don Rogers, yet I didn't hear anything abusive from there. Plenty of banter, then applause for him at the end. Another view

8:17am Wed 26 Sep 12

liden623 says...

mustard red wrote:
This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin...

Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End.

His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you!
Agree completely with you Mustard Red on this. Charlie handled himself superbly all night and looks a stronger even better player. Like many Town fans I suspect, I always look for his goals now with Burnley and hope they do well.
That's two great games in four days, lets hope there is no reaction at Shrewsbury as so often happens. Well played Town.
[quote][p][bold]mustard red[/bold] wrote: This is a direct message to Louiscassius and to the many other posters who wrote abusive, disproportionate and churlish comments yesterday about Charlie Austin... Despite being booed most of the match, and despite not celebrating after he had scored for Burnley, Charlie Austin was gracious in defeat applauding all corners of the County Ground including the Town End. His actions speak far louder than any of your callous words, and in my opinion (because some of you wanted it yesterday), Charlie Austin is a better person than you![/p][/quote]Agree completely with you Mustard Red on this. Charlie handled himself superbly all night and looks a stronger even better player. Like many Town fans I suspect, I always look for his goals now with Burnley and hope they do well. That's two great games in four days, lets hope there is no reaction at Shrewsbury as so often happens. Well played Town. liden623

8:17am Wed 26 Sep 12

RedRobinKing says...

As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground.

I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground.

I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is.

I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out.

Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.
As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground. I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground. I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is. I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out. Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season. RedRobinKing

8:21am Wed 26 Sep 12

liden623 says...

the wizard wrote:
And so the Charlie Austin debate continues, not surprising really as it is so topical.
He came here very much the boy, and at times behaved like one, taking his chances both on and off the field and earned himself that reputation, and rightly so, if you play away from home and get caught then thats what happens.

It seems to me that since leaving he has now learned from his mistakes and has become Charlie Austin the man, no longer the trowel in one hand and cycle rack shorts held up by the other.

He weathered a storm of verbals all evening, but realised it was from a minority who needed to get it out of their system, but he had a message for the rest, he can still score a goal, do it with grace, not milk it for glory and remembered those who cherished him for such a brief but all important part of his career and applauded them to underline that. He probably went away with mixed feelings, and maybe to a point is envious of what is happening here right now, and maybe asking the question, what if things had been different.

There is no doubt he had a murky past here in his private life, but much of that was down to bad management who should have mentored him far better, but its all gone now. Good to see him having time with Ritchie and Ferry after that final whistle.
Charlie Austin left and was still a boy, last night he returned very much Charlie Austin the man, well done.
Superb post Wizard. Nice to see a well written reasoned report.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: And so the Charlie Austin debate continues, not surprising really as it is so topical. He came here very much the boy, and at times behaved like one, taking his chances both on and off the field and earned himself that reputation, and rightly so, if you play away from home and get caught then thats what happens. It seems to me that since leaving he has now learned from his mistakes and has become Charlie Austin the man, no longer the trowel in one hand and cycle rack shorts held up by the other. He weathered a storm of verbals all evening, but realised it was from a minority who needed to get it out of their system, but he had a message for the rest, he can still score a goal, do it with grace, not milk it for glory and remembered those who cherished him for such a brief but all important part of his career and applauded them to underline that. He probably went away with mixed feelings, and maybe to a point is envious of what is happening here right now, and maybe asking the question, what if things had been different. There is no doubt he had a murky past here in his private life, but much of that was down to bad management who should have mentored him far better, but its all gone now. Good to see him having time with Ritchie and Ferry after that final whistle. Charlie Austin left and was still a boy, last night he returned very much Charlie Austin the man, well done.[/p][/quote]Superb post Wizard. Nice to see a well written reasoned report. liden623

8:24am Wed 26 Sep 12

the wizard says...

Nobody seems to have mentioned that despite several forced changes to Saturdays line up, we very much picked up from where we left off, and the changes appeared to be seamless. Canioman getting things sorted now. Some of our guys were chuffin a bit towards the end so I hope they get well rested before Saturday.
Nobody seems to have mentioned that despite several forced changes to Saturdays line up, we very much picked up from where we left off, and the changes appeared to be seamless. Canioman getting things sorted now. Some of our guys were chuffin a bit towards the end so I hope they get well rested before Saturday. the wizard

8:33am Wed 26 Sep 12

Swindon1984 says...

RedRobinKing wrote:
As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground.

I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground.

I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is.

I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out.

Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.
Think we need some balance on this - some chanting (Hillsborough/Munich chants in the north west, sectarian songs in Glasgow) should quite rightly be stamped out. It's deeply offensive.

Then again, I don't want to live in a world where you can't have a bit of banter, occassionally let out a curse word at a football match for fear of getting kicked out of the ground, or generally enjoy a game rather than just sit in silence, clapping politely when a goal's scored like we're at a bloody tennis match or something.

Every player gets a bit of stick, yeah there is some stuff which deserves people getting in trouble for (we all know the examples I'm.thinking of) but generally it should be taken in good humour. Do you want the club gentrified to the extent that people can't come and sing or have a laugh at the game? There're enough soulless, prawn sandwich brigade clubs out there, I'm sure no-one wants that for Swindon.

Fully behind you on not allowing foul or abusive chants, but would need to know what you consider offensive. As you say, fans who don't want to hear it could get behind the team a bit more and drown them out. Going away we always manage to sing loud and keep it clean, if more did this at the county ground there'd be no problem.
[quote][p][bold]RedRobinKing[/bold] wrote: As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground. I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground. I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is. I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out. Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.[/p][/quote]Think we need some balance on this - some chanting (Hillsborough/Munich chants in the north west, sectarian songs in Glasgow) should quite rightly be stamped out. It's deeply offensive. Then again, I don't want to live in a world where you can't have a bit of banter, occassionally let out a curse word at a football match for fear of getting kicked out of the ground, or generally enjoy a game rather than just sit in silence, clapping politely when a goal's scored like we're at a bloody tennis match or something. Every player gets a bit of stick, yeah there is some stuff which deserves people getting in trouble for (we all know the examples I'm.thinking of) but generally it should be taken in good humour. Do you want the club gentrified to the extent that people can't come and sing or have a laugh at the game? There're enough soulless, prawn sandwich brigade clubs out there, I'm sure no-one wants that for Swindon. Fully behind you on not allowing foul or abusive chants, but would need to know what you consider offensive. As you say, fans who don't want to hear it could get behind the team a bit more and drown them out. Going away we always manage to sing loud and keep it clean, if more did this at the county ground there'd be no problem. Swindon1984

8:46am Wed 26 Sep 12

chrystovski says...

Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?
Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored? chrystovski

8:49am Wed 26 Sep 12

RedRobinKing says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
RedRobinKing wrote:
As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground.

I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground.

I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is.

I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out.

Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.
Think we need some balance on this - some chanting (Hillsborough/Munich chants in the north west, sectarian songs in Glasgow) should quite rightly be stamped out. It's deeply offensive.

Then again, I don't want to live in a world where you can't have a bit of banter, occassionally let out a curse word at a football match for fear of getting kicked out of the ground, or generally enjoy a game rather than just sit in silence, clapping politely when a goal's scored like we're at a bloody tennis match or something.

Every player gets a bit of stick, yeah there is some stuff which deserves people getting in trouble for (we all know the examples I'm.thinking of) but generally it should be taken in good humour. Do you want the club gentrified to the extent that people can't come and sing or have a laugh at the game? There're enough soulless, prawn sandwich brigade clubs out there, I'm sure no-one wants that for Swindon.

Fully behind you on not allowing foul or abusive chants, but would need to know what you consider offensive. As you say, fans who don't want to hear it could get behind the team a bit more and drown them out. Going away we always manage to sing loud and keep it clean, if more did this at the county ground there'd be no problem.
You are absolutely right that there is far worse going on in other grounds. Each of them is trying hard to stamp it out and slowly it seems to be working. Doesn't mean we can't improve ourselves as well.

99% of people myself included aren't offended by the swear words in songs. However I did take offence last night when these really young kids were copying it. My opinion is that it's not needed and can't be a positive progression for those kids or the club as a whole.

I really hope there are more original songs, louder and prouder and a deafening roar that puts the fear into the opposition. That's what we want to experience. It can be achieved even better with wit, passion, support and enthusiasm. It may seem harmless to sign abusive songs but there's much better ways to support the team and still have a great atmosphere.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedRobinKing[/bold] wrote: As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground. I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground. I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is. I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out. Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.[/p][/quote]Think we need some balance on this - some chanting (Hillsborough/Munich chants in the north west, sectarian songs in Glasgow) should quite rightly be stamped out. It's deeply offensive. Then again, I don't want to live in a world where you can't have a bit of banter, occassionally let out a curse word at a football match for fear of getting kicked out of the ground, or generally enjoy a game rather than just sit in silence, clapping politely when a goal's scored like we're at a bloody tennis match or something. Every player gets a bit of stick, yeah there is some stuff which deserves people getting in trouble for (we all know the examples I'm.thinking of) but generally it should be taken in good humour. Do you want the club gentrified to the extent that people can't come and sing or have a laugh at the game? There're enough soulless, prawn sandwich brigade clubs out there, I'm sure no-one wants that for Swindon. Fully behind you on not allowing foul or abusive chants, but would need to know what you consider offensive. As you say, fans who don't want to hear it could get behind the team a bit more and drown them out. Going away we always manage to sing loud and keep it clean, if more did this at the county ground there'd be no problem.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right that there is far worse going on in other grounds. Each of them is trying hard to stamp it out and slowly it seems to be working. Doesn't mean we can't improve ourselves as well. 99% of people myself included aren't offended by the swear words in songs. However I did take offence last night when these really young kids were copying it. My opinion is that it's not needed and can't be a positive progression for those kids or the club as a whole. I really hope there are more original songs, louder and prouder and a deafening roar that puts the fear into the opposition. That's what we want to experience. It can be achieved even better with wit, passion, support and enthusiasm. It may seem harmless to sign abusive songs but there's much better ways to support the team and still have a great atmosphere. RedRobinKing

8:49am Wed 26 Sep 12

chrystovski says...

chrystovski wrote:
Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?
Sorry meant to say when he scored
[quote][p][bold]chrystovski[/bold] wrote: Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?[/p][/quote]Sorry meant to say when he scored chrystovski

8:56am Wed 26 Sep 12

Chish and Fips says...

chrystovski wrote:
chrystovski wrote:
Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?
Sorry meant to say when he scored
Yes I saw that too, he tried to do it very sneakily by holding his hands down by his hips.
I thought all game he whined and niggled and looked frustrated with his colleagues.
[quote][p][bold]chrystovski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrystovski[/bold] wrote: Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?[/p][/quote]Sorry meant to say when he scored[/p][/quote]Yes I saw that too, he tried to do it very sneakily by holding his hands down by his hips. I thought all game he whined and niggled and looked frustrated with his colleagues. Chish and Fips

9:00am Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

Much is made of our record against higher division clubs under PDC. As good as it's been to win those games, I've been wary of reading too much into the results, as I've not been convinced that the opposition has always taken the games seriously. Last night was different. We had two teams giving it all to get to the next round, and we were simply too strong for Burnley, who probably need the money from cup competitions as much as we do. I've just read a comment in the Lancashire press suggesting that Burnley won't be able to hold onto Austin in January. Make an enquiry JW - Andy Williams and Charlie Austin might just be the most formidable STFC striking partnership ever! Only joking. We have some pretty good options up front right now. But no harm in dreaming.
Much is made of our record against higher division clubs under PDC. As good as it's been to win those games, I've been wary of reading too much into the results, as I've not been convinced that the opposition has always taken the games seriously. Last night was different. We had two teams giving it all to get to the next round, and we were simply too strong for Burnley, who probably need the money from cup competitions as much as we do. I've just read a comment in the Lancashire press suggesting that Burnley won't be able to hold onto Austin in January. Make an enquiry JW - Andy Williams and Charlie Austin might just be the most formidable STFC striking partnership ever! Only joking. We have some pretty good options up front right now. But no harm in dreaming. Oi Den!

9:00am Wed 26 Sep 12

MITTED says...

As mentioned previously I am still disappointed with Charlie Austin in the way he manipulated his move at such a massively important time for our club. Rather than boo him, (plus we all know that ex-players have an annoying habit of scoring against us, as was proven again last night) but to simply ignore him. I sit in the left had side of the Town End and away from the traditional noisy support that stand to the right. Last night the abusive singing was focused from the left side and many chav like characters who I didn't recognise from normal match days. At the final whistle, most if not all these 'chavs' made quickly for the exit apparently unaware of the post match ritual from Paolo, which most always remain for. Charlie joined in the post-match applauding of the crowd and the now chav-less Town End, chanted his name with great respect. In conclusion, it appears to me that there was a certain element last night, who are not regulars but were there simply to abuse Charlie Austin.
Charlie was a threat all night and on another day, could have had at least a hatrick. Charlie, you conducted yourself throughout the match and afterwards, with great dignity. As a previous poster has said, we sold Charlie Austin the boy and last night we saw Charlie Austin the man. You are an awesome player who can go all the way. Good luck to you and thanks for the memories - apart from the way you left!
As mentioned previously I am still disappointed with Charlie Austin in the way he manipulated his move at such a massively important time for our club. Rather than boo him, (plus we all know that ex-players have an annoying habit of scoring against us, as was proven again last night) but to simply ignore him. I sit in the left had side of the Town End and away from the traditional noisy support that stand to the right. Last night the abusive singing was focused from the left side and many chav like characters who I didn't recognise from normal match days. At the final whistle, most if not all these 'chavs' made quickly for the exit apparently unaware of the post match ritual from Paolo, which most always remain for. Charlie joined in the post-match applauding of the crowd and the now chav-less Town End, chanted his name with great respect. In conclusion, it appears to me that there was a certain element last night, who are not regulars but were there simply to abuse Charlie Austin. Charlie was a threat all night and on another day, could have had at least a hatrick. Charlie, you conducted yourself throughout the match and afterwards, with great dignity. As a previous poster has said, we sold Charlie Austin the boy and last night we saw Charlie Austin the man. You are an awesome player who can go all the way. Good luck to you and thanks for the memories - apart from the way you left! MITTED

9:02am Wed 26 Sep 12

GL5 Arkells Stand says...

Brilliant game last night and a superb performance.

As for Charlie............A
long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were.
Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him.

As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better.

If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him?

I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.
Brilliant game last night and a superb performance. As for Charlie............A long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were. Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him. As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better. If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him? I know that I would - he's a brilliant player. GL5 Arkells Stand

9:04am Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

Oh, chant of the night: "He waves with his foot, he waves with his foot..." Top marks to the wag who started that one after PDC's second "foot wave" in two games.
Oh, chant of the night: "He waves with his foot, he waves with his foot..." Top marks to the wag who started that one after PDC's second "foot wave" in two games. Oi Den!

9:07am Wed 26 Sep 12

Is that you Lovesey says...

I am a very vocal TE supporter and have to say I was defending Austin yesterday and I did not boo or chant once against him, what he did at the end of the game showed maturity after the stick he had and IMO a touch of class, I always look to see if he has scored for Burnley and personaly feel he is a class player and one of the best forwards I have seen play for this club.

On another note, what a great atmosphere in the TE, the players were fantastic and Benno had one of the best games I have seen him have for a long time, Williams is pure quality, this is the best forward line we have had for years and to think that just a couple of seasons ago all we had was Dossevi and Pericard.......
I am a very vocal TE supporter and have to say I was defending Austin yesterday and I did not boo or chant once against him, what he did at the end of the game showed maturity after the stick he had and IMO a touch of class, I always look to see if he has scored for Burnley and personaly feel he is a class player and one of the best forwards I have seen play for this club. On another note, what a great atmosphere in the TE, the players were fantastic and Benno had one of the best games I have seen him have for a long time, Williams is pure quality, this is the best forward line we have had for years and to think that just a couple of seasons ago all we had was Dossevi and Pericard....... Is that you Lovesey

9:08am Wed 26 Sep 12

John Young's Grumpy says...

chrystovski wrote:

Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?

Sorry meant to say when he scored

Have to agree chrystovski, I believe I saw him make that gesture. However, not condoning but he was got at by our fans all game - it had to have wound him up.

The rights and wrongs, the truths and the hype, all that has gone before concerning the Austin saga can be discussed on and on and on. However, my opinion - on the pitch he was brilliant for us - I remember the Crawley game at the CG when CA was the only one who put in any effort at all.

He came back, got some stick (agree that some chants were fankly unnecessary) worked hard for Burnley but it wasn't enough. We were mostly the better team on the night and the result was a fair reflection. So, bring on a big side and we go marching on!!

COYR!!
chrystovski wrote: Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored? Sorry meant to say when he scored Have to agree chrystovski, I believe I saw him make that gesture. However, not condoning but he was got at by our fans all game - it had to have wound him up. The rights and wrongs, the truths and the hype, all that has gone before concerning the Austin saga can be discussed on and on and on. However, my opinion - on the pitch he was brilliant for us - I remember the Crawley game at the CG when CA was the only one who put in any effort at all. He came back, got some stick (agree that some chants were fankly unnecessary) worked hard for Burnley but it wasn't enough. We were mostly the better team on the night and the result was a fair reflection. So, bring on a big side and we go marching on!! COYR!! John Young's Grumpy

9:18am Wed 26 Sep 12

sadgit says...

Much rather have Williams than Austin.
Much rather have Williams than Austin. sadgit

9:24am Wed 26 Sep 12

Lone Wolf says...

I guess I just knew that CA would produce something last night - but I'm glad it wasn't enough. I don't know anything about his background except he's a bit of rough diamond made good. We've had a raft of interesting charachers over the years and Charlie is part of that folklore - all part of life's (or at least sport's) rich tapestry. Maybe one day Matt Ritchie or Andy Williams will cause such a stir ... but some how I doubt it!
I guess I just knew that CA would produce something last night - but I'm glad it wasn't enough. I don't know anything about his background except he's a bit of rough diamond made good. We've had a raft of interesting charachers over the years and Charlie is part of that folklore - all part of life's (or at least sport's) rich tapestry. Maybe one day Matt Ritchie or Andy Williams will cause such a stir ... but some how I doubt it! Lone Wolf

9:24am Wed 26 Sep 12

southside7 says...

RedRobinKing wrote:
As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground.

I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground.

I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is.

I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out.

Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.
Disagree. Football is a stress reliever and having a good curse and rant is all part of it. i love the fact that football hasn't become like rugby where everything is pally pally and radio 2. it still has fire and that's why i go. my son hears it and knows not to repeat it. the only embarrassing thing are chavs booing at the drop of a hat, with dribble running down their caveman mouths.
[quote][p][bold]RedRobinKing[/bold] wrote: As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground. I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground. I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is. I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out. Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.[/p][/quote]Disagree. Football is a stress reliever and having a good curse and rant is all part of it. i love the fact that football hasn't become like rugby where everything is pally pally and radio 2. it still has fire and that's why i go. my son hears it and knows not to repeat it. the only embarrassing thing are chavs booing at the drop of a hat, with dribble running down their caveman mouths. southside7

9:26am Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
I am a very vocal TE supporter and have to say I was defending Austin yesterday and I did not boo or chant once against him, what he did at the end of the game showed maturity after the stick he had and IMO a touch of class, I always look to see if he has scored for Burnley and personaly feel he is a class player and one of the best forwards I have seen play for this club.

On another note, what a great atmosphere in the TE, the players were fantastic and Benno had one of the best games I have seen him have for a long time, Williams is pure quality, this is the best forward line we have had for years and to think that just a couple of seasons ago all we had was Dossevi and Pericard.......
I know - and people wonder why we ended up so far adrfit that season. Quite simple really - it was because we were crap. As you say, it's great to see us looking strong up front.
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Just one final word from me on Austin. I really believe that he would rather have stayed with us but realised it would have harmed his career prospects to stay with a club that was going down faster than a whore's drawers. I watched him closely in the last game he played for us and I had a good look at his facial expressions as he left the pitch that night. He was a man sad to be going but a man who knew he had to be going.
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Louis, I notice that today you have used the word "allegedly" in relation to Austin's past. Very wise. Anyone can allege anything - and they very often do if they think it helps to bolster their case against someone. Hope you didn't have too many beers and fall asleep listening to the commentary! Also hope you are enjoying Harrogate. Only been there once - for a wedding reception at the Old Swan. Very nice town.
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Fingers crossed for a good draw tonight.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: I am a very vocal TE supporter and have to say I was defending Austin yesterday and I did not boo or chant once against him, what he did at the end of the game showed maturity after the stick he had and IMO a touch of class, I always look to see if he has scored for Burnley and personaly feel he is a class player and one of the best forwards I have seen play for this club. On another note, what a great atmosphere in the TE, the players were fantastic and Benno had one of the best games I have seen him have for a long time, Williams is pure quality, this is the best forward line we have had for years and to think that just a couple of seasons ago all we had was Dossevi and Pericard.......[/p][/quote]I know - and people wonder why we ended up so far adrfit that season. Quite simple really - it was because we were crap. As you say, it's great to see us looking strong up front. . Just one final word from me on Austin. I really believe that he would rather have stayed with us but realised it would have harmed his career prospects to stay with a club that was going down faster than a whore's drawers. I watched him closely in the last game he played for us and I had a good look at his facial expressions as he left the pitch that night. He was a man sad to be going but a man who knew he had to be going. . Louis, I notice that today you have used the word "allegedly" in relation to Austin's past. Very wise. Anyone can allege anything - and they very often do if they think it helps to bolster their case against someone. Hope you didn't have too many beers and fall asleep listening to the commentary! Also hope you are enjoying Harrogate. Only been there once - for a wedding reception at the Old Swan. Very nice town. . Fingers crossed for a good draw tonight. Oi Den!

9:27am Wed 26 Sep 12

Even Angrier Monkey says...

Austin deserved everything he got because of the way he left. He slapped in a transfer request at a very important time for the club and continued to agitate for a move despite the club telling him he wasnt for sale at that moment in time. In the games during this period he playing in a sulk.
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Classier individuals who were also great players for us in recent years (cox, parkin) will always get a great reception becasue they treated the club and fans with respect and left at a time that was mutually acceptable for STFC and their career progression.
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As for the songs to Austin being offensive, jesus christ. For a football crowd it was pretty mild. I've heard so much worse.
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What were the parents of the 5 year olds who were copying songs doing?
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Final comment on Austin is that he is unrecognisable from the player who broke into our 1st team a few years ago. His all round game is so much better. I might not respect him much as a person but as a footballer I think he's heading to the premier league.
Austin deserved everything he got because of the way he left. He slapped in a transfer request at a very important time for the club and continued to agitate for a move despite the club telling him he wasnt for sale at that moment in time. In the games during this period he playing in a sulk. . Classier individuals who were also great players for us in recent years (cox, parkin) will always get a great reception becasue they treated the club and fans with respect and left at a time that was mutually acceptable for STFC and their career progression. . As for the songs to Austin being offensive, jesus christ. For a football crowd it was pretty mild. I've heard so much worse. . What were the parents of the 5 year olds who were copying songs doing? . Final comment on Austin is that he is unrecognisable from the player who broke into our 1st team a few years ago. His all round game is so much better. I might not respect him much as a person but as a footballer I think he's heading to the premier league. Even Angrier Monkey

9:30am Wed 26 Sep 12

Stilloyal says...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA Stilloyal

9:35am Wed 26 Sep 12

stfcknowitall says...

I hate charlie austin and still do. I loved the verbal abuse he got last night. I was sat in the Don Rogers as always and I glady joined in the verbals regarding austin. Mrs mrs happens to know one of his ex's and if he treated his team mates anything like he treats women then he wouldn't have a club put it that way! HATE THE BLOKE!!
I hate charlie austin and still do. I loved the verbal abuse he got last night. I was sat in the Don Rogers as always and I glady joined in the verbals regarding austin. Mrs mrs happens to know one of his ex's and if he treated his team mates anything like he treats women then he wouldn't have a club put it that way! HATE THE BLOKE!! stfcknowitall

9:45am Wed 26 Sep 12

peatmoor pirate says...

I couldn't care less what Austin got up to when he wasn't playing and thought that him getting stick during th match and applause after was fair enough. Have to agree with the posters about language though. I know people who wont bring their kids to football because of it . Those who think singing songs about "kicking f****** heads" in etc prove they are true supporters should thinkon about the impact they are aving. Most of them would run a mile if anyone took them up on it anyway.
I couldn't care less what Austin got up to when he wasn't playing and thought that him getting stick during th match and applause after was fair enough. Have to agree with the posters about language though. I know people who wont bring their kids to football because of it . Those who think singing songs about "kicking f****** heads" in etc prove they are true supporters should thinkon about the impact they are aving. Most of them would run a mile if anyone took them up on it anyway. peatmoor pirate

9:49am Wed 26 Sep 12

MITTED says...

RedRobinKing wrote:
As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground.

I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground.

I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is.

I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out.

Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.
You ask the question, you give the answer and yet you seem to have done nothing regarding the two 5-year olds other than complain via internet anonimity.

Why not challenge the parent(s)? Why were they at a midweek game on a school night? My younger kids never go to school night games no matter who we are playing.

As for chanting, I'm afraid it is part of the exciting game, no matter how unsavoury, and better than any other sport on the planet. My kids know that, and woe betide if they copy swear words etc.

Perhaps I should think about going to rugby and listening to radio 4 zzzzzzzzzz
naaaa, COYR!!!!
[quote][p][bold]RedRobinKing[/bold] wrote: As for the austin abuse last night, if it started with a minority it soon turned into the majority as it was heard loud and clear throughout the ground. I'm a season ticket holder in the Don Rogers and last night a couple of 5 year olds were copying everything that was sung. It was sick. All the adults (including what must have been their parents) just sat and cringed uncomfortably. As many posters always point out, we are a family club and I can guarantee there are many parents leaving their kids at home (our future supports) because they don't want to expose them to the hateful and abusively language we all heard yesterday. If we want a large future support we have to get new kids into the ground. I don't for a second suspect those that sing foul abusive chants to change, but those around them should drown them out with something witty or supportive instead. Alternatively point them out so if the club wants to take action they know who it is. I don't know if the club has a policy on this but as fans we should take responsibility into our own hands to kick this out. Great game though. With attacking threats all over the pitch it's going to be a very enjoyable season.[/p][/quote]You ask the question, you give the answer and yet you seem to have done nothing regarding the two 5-year olds other than complain via internet anonimity. Why not challenge the parent(s)? Why were they at a midweek game on a school night? My younger kids never go to school night games no matter who we are playing. As for chanting, I'm afraid it is part of the exciting game, no matter how unsavoury, and better than any other sport on the planet. My kids know that, and woe betide if they copy swear words etc. Perhaps I should think about going to rugby and listening to radio 4 zzzzzzzzzz naaaa, COYR!!!! MITTED

9:53am Wed 26 Sep 12

Rebel_phish says...

Here's what a Burnley fan posted on their forum site this morning.

re: Swindon v Burnley - Player Ratings
Beast 6 mark deducted for late mistake after an otherwise solid performance.
Mills 4
Mee 5
Duff 4
Edgar 4
Trips 5
McCann 5
Wallace 4
Bartley 4
Stock 4
Austin 7* Not an easy night: harshly carded, loudly abused by the factions that still hold him responsible for their relegation a couple of years back. Nevertheless calm finish, respectful non-celebration, sporting towards the home crowd at the end and, eventually, given the applause his performance and conduct deserved.

Subs
Vokes 5
Marney 5

Swindon's players commented afterwards on the key role of Paulo's strategy, having first gained a good knowledge of how we play and how to nulllify our strengths. Worked perfectly, whereas Howe claimed beforehand to have done the same...didn't have much affect. For the first 20 minutes we looked good going forward, but that evaporated after their first. Jittery, disorganised rearguard, no creativity, ambition or energy. Otherwise known, as put pefectly by a Swindon fan, as dross.
Here's what a Burnley fan posted on their forum site this morning. re: Swindon v Burnley - Player Ratings Beast 6 mark deducted for late mistake after an otherwise solid performance. Mills 4 Mee 5 Duff 4 Edgar 4 Trips 5 McCann 5 Wallace 4 Bartley 4 Stock 4 Austin 7* Not an easy night: harshly carded, loudly abused by the factions that still hold him responsible for their relegation a couple of years back. Nevertheless calm finish, respectful non-celebration, sporting towards the home crowd at the end and, eventually, given the applause his performance and conduct deserved. Subs Vokes 5 Marney 5 Swindon's players commented afterwards on the key role of Paulo's strategy, having first gained a good knowledge of how we play and how to nulllify our strengths. Worked perfectly, whereas Howe claimed beforehand to have done the same...didn't have much affect. For the first 20 minutes we looked good going forward, but that evaporated after their first. Jittery, disorganised rearguard, no creativity, ambition or energy. Otherwise known, as put pefectly by a Swindon fan, as dross. Rebel_phish

10:18am Wed 26 Sep 12

Rhs Boydy says...

Do the people complaining about the abuse to Austin also complain that TV makes kids violent? What a load of rubbish. Raise your kids right and it doesn't matter what goes on around them. I never once repeated abusive chants with swear words in them because my dad would have left me unable to sit down for a week, as he used to put it.

Some players, Mooney, thrive on the crowds abuse. Others wilt. I still remember stories about Rodney Marsh asking to be subbed off when he came here with I think Fulham because our crowd were all on his back with a chant about him being gay.

Now I'm going to take a random guess that most of the guys now in their 50s and 60s were around then. Did it stop any of you taking your kids? Or stop your dad's taking you? It didn't stop my dad bring all his sons. And the current crowd sure won't stop me bringing my son. What stops that is he's a blood bad luck charm. 3 games 3 defeats no more games for you young man.
Do the people complaining about the abuse to Austin also complain that TV makes kids violent? What a load of rubbish. Raise your kids right and it doesn't matter what goes on around them. I never once repeated abusive chants with swear words in them because my dad would have left me unable to sit down for a week, as he used to put it. Some players, Mooney, thrive on the crowds abuse. Others wilt. I still remember stories about Rodney Marsh asking to be subbed off when he came here with I think Fulham because our crowd were all on his back with a chant about him being gay. Now I'm going to take a random guess that most of the guys now in their 50s and 60s were around then. Did it stop any of you taking your kids? Or stop your dad's taking you? It didn't stop my dad bring all his sons. And the current crowd sure won't stop me bringing my son. What stops that is he's a blood bad luck charm. 3 games 3 defeats no more games for you young man. Rhs Boydy

10:45am Wed 26 Sep 12

the wizard says...

I think we are getting bogged down here. Since Austin, we have been down to L2, re grouped, rebuilt, got rid of a lot of deadwood, and moved on.

We are constantly, so it seems, bringing in good players who perform. Last season we had a raft of good goal scorers, and this season looks as if that vein will continue. We have just got Troy back from injury, and hey-ho, first game back, and right at the right time, BANG, a much needed goal which effectively sealed the game.
We have recently blooded a new full back who in the last two games has not only excelled but surpassed all expectations. Williams has found his scoring boots and last night we scored three good solid goals and bless him, try as he may, Ritchie didn't get his name on the sheet as goal scorer, but his input was massive as was that of Roberts and many others.
As if that is not enough, the guy we all want to see, Bostock has yet to make an appearance.
I think we can forget Austin, as he was a one man show, we now have a whole raft of players who can all score goals, and will almost certainly do so. There were goals in every player last night, not just Benson and Williams at the front, but from the back Troy proved that.
Time to consign Austin, and his deeds, good, bad and indifferent to where they belong, the history book.
After last night I think we can be assured we are now on the radar, and the teams above are now all looking over their shoulders, we are coming to get you !

Roll on Saturday and another three points, Game on.
I think we are getting bogged down here. Since Austin, we have been down to L2, re grouped, rebuilt, got rid of a lot of deadwood, and moved on. We are constantly, so it seems, bringing in good players who perform. Last season we had a raft of good goal scorers, and this season looks as if that vein will continue. We have just got Troy back from injury, and hey-ho, first game back, and right at the right time, BANG, a much needed goal which effectively sealed the game. We have recently blooded a new full back who in the last two games has not only excelled but surpassed all expectations. Williams has found his scoring boots and last night we scored three good solid goals and bless him, try as he may, Ritchie didn't get his name on the sheet as goal scorer, but his input was massive as was that of Roberts and many others. As if that is not enough, the guy we all want to see, Bostock has yet to make an appearance. I think we can forget Austin, as he was a one man show, we now have a whole raft of players who can all score goals, and will almost certainly do so. There were goals in every player last night, not just Benson and Williams at the front, but from the back Troy proved that. Time to consign Austin, and his deeds, good, bad and indifferent to where they belong, the history book. After last night I think we can be assured we are now on the radar, and the teams above are now all looking over their shoulders, we are coming to get you ! Roll on Saturday and another three points, Game on. the wizard

11:02am Wed 26 Sep 12

Lordjim13 says...

chrystovski wrote:
chrystovski wrote: Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?
Sorry meant to say when he scored
My wife saw that as well. Just thought I'd reiterate it in light of all those "Charlie conducted himself well" posters...

I thought his applause at the end of the game, with the Swindon shirt over his shoulder, did him credit, and you could see his old mates held little grudge (I think those he especially didn't get on with are long gone). Also, he was their most dangerous player by a mile, and I was not surprised (or even disappointed, to be fair) when he scored.

He still has a edge to him, and one that occasionally cuts boths ways, but he's a special player one way or another and I'm glad he played for us.

Now, as the mantra goes, onwards and upwards!
[quote][p][bold]chrystovski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrystovski[/bold] wrote: Was it me or did Charlie stick up the V's to the Don Rogers when we scored?[/p][/quote]Sorry meant to say when he scored[/p][/quote]My wife saw that as well. Just thought I'd reiterate it in light of all those "Charlie conducted himself well" posters... I thought his applause at the end of the game, with the Swindon shirt over his shoulder, did him credit, and you could see his old mates held little grudge (I think those he especially didn't get on with are long gone). Also, he was their most dangerous player by a mile, and I was not surprised (or even disappointed, to be fair) when he scored. He still has a edge to him, and one that occasionally cuts boths ways, but he's a special player one way or another and I'm glad he played for us. Now, as the mantra goes, onwards and upwards! Lordjim13

11:09am Wed 26 Sep 12

who am i says...

Have to say some of the posts on here today about Austin are pathetic don't guve me that **** that he conducted himself well last night the guy stuck two fingers up to us in the don stand and if he conducted himself half As much as he did last night when he was here then we wouldn't be having this debate. I for one am glad the majority last night gave the guy the stick he deserved. End off.
Have to say some of the posts on here today about Austin are pathetic don't guve me that **** that he conducted himself well last night the guy stuck two fingers up to us in the don stand and if he conducted himself half As much as he did last night when he was here then we wouldn't be having this debate. I for one am glad the majority last night gave the guy the stick he deserved. End off. who am i

11:18am Wed 26 Sep 12

old town robin says...

GL5 Arkells Stand wrote:
Brilliant game last night and a superb performance.

As for Charlie............A

long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were.
Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him.

As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better.

If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him?

I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.
Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon
[quote][p][bold]GL5 Arkells Stand[/bold] wrote: Brilliant game last night and a superb performance. As for Charlie............A long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were. Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him. As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better. If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him? I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.[/p][/quote]Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon old town robin

11:25am Wed 26 Sep 12

the wizard says...

old town robin wrote:
GL5 Arkells Stand wrote:
Brilliant game last night and a superb performance.

As for Charlie............A


long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were.
Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him.

As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better.

If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him?

I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.
Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon
Far too much baggage to come here, and we have a team of 11, not 1+10
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GL5 Arkells Stand[/bold] wrote: Brilliant game last night and a superb performance. As for Charlie............A long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were. Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him. As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better. If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him? I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.[/p][/quote]Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon[/p][/quote]Far too much baggage to come here, and we have a team of 11, not 1+10 the wizard

11:50am Wed 26 Sep 12

tifosi says...

the wizard wrote:
old town robin wrote:
GL5 Arkells Stand wrote:
Brilliant game last night and a superb performance.

As for Charlie............A



long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were.
Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him.

As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better.

If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him?

I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.
Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon
Far too much baggage to come here, and we have a team of 11, not 1+10
Austin is history - when he left we were in free fall - a time when our club could have failed.
We are moving on.
Let's forget him.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GL5 Arkells Stand[/bold] wrote: Brilliant game last night and a superb performance. As for Charlie............A long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were. Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him. As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better. If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him? I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.[/p][/quote]Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon[/p][/quote]Far too much baggage to come here, and we have a team of 11, not 1+10[/p][/quote]Austin is history - when he left we were in free fall - a time when our club could have failed. We are moving on. Let's forget him. tifosi

12:22pm Wed 26 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

tifosi wrote:
the wizard wrote:
old town robin wrote:
GL5 Arkells Stand wrote:
Brilliant game last night and a superb performance.

As for Charlie............A




long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were.
Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him.

As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better.

If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him?

I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.
Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon
Far too much baggage to come here, and we have a team of 11, not 1+10
Austin is history - when he left we were in free fall - a time when our club could have failed.
We are moving on.
Let's forget him.
Who?
[quote][p][bold]tifosi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GL5 Arkells Stand[/bold] wrote: Brilliant game last night and a superb performance. As for Charlie............A long with everyone else, I've heard all of the rumours about what he was supposed to have done off-field before leaving us - however, the reaction of his ex-team mates towards him made me wonder how true they were. Flint, Ferry & Ritchie seemed very friendly with him. As for the abuse towards him, I honestly don't see the point - all it will do to a good player (and Charlie Austin IS a very good player) is make them play better. If things continue to go well for us this season and we go up, there's even an outside chance we could be in a position to tempt Charlie back to the County Ground. Would we want him? I know that I would - he's a brilliant player.[/p][/quote]Burnley fans forum think he will go in January for £3 million, i don't think JW is going to pay that kind of money for anyone any time soon[/p][/quote]Far too much baggage to come here, and we have a team of 11, not 1+10[/p][/quote]Austin is history - when he left we were in free fall - a time when our club could have failed. We are moving on. Let's forget him.[/p][/quote]Who? SAPFanSTFC

12:40pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Swindon1984 says...

Rhs Boydy wrote:
Do the people complaining about the abuse to Austin also complain that TV makes kids violent? What a load of rubbish. Raise your kids right and it doesn't matter what goes on around them. I never once repeated abusive chants with swear words in them because my dad would have left me unable to sit down for a week, as he used to put it. Some players, Mooney, thrive on the crowds abuse. Others wilt. I still remember stories about Rodney Marsh asking to be subbed off when he came here with I think Fulham because our crowd were all on his back with a chant about him being gay. Now I'm going to take a random guess that most of the guys now in their 50s and 60s were around then. Did it stop any of you taking your kids? Or stop your dad's taking you? It didn't stop my dad bring all his sons. And the current crowd sure won't stop me bringing my son. What stops that is he's a blood bad luck charm. 3 games 3 defeats no more games for you young man.
Nice bit of common sense. When my dad took me to football as a kid, he just said I might hear some stuff I shouldn't, but not to repeat it. Your kids don't turn bad by hearing someone on tv/at a football match saying something bad, their parents need to put things in context for them.

Football didn't make me a violent sociopath, that was the video games.

(feel like I have to point out that was a joke for the humour impaired!)
[quote][p][bold]Rhs Boydy[/bold] wrote: Do the people complaining about the abuse to Austin also complain that TV makes kids violent? What a load of rubbish. Raise your kids right and it doesn't matter what goes on around them. I never once repeated abusive chants with swear words in them because my dad would have left me unable to sit down for a week, as he used to put it. Some players, Mooney, thrive on the crowds abuse. Others wilt. I still remember stories about Rodney Marsh asking to be subbed off when he came here with I think Fulham because our crowd were all on his back with a chant about him being gay. Now I'm going to take a random guess that most of the guys now in their 50s and 60s were around then. Did it stop any of you taking your kids? Or stop your dad's taking you? It didn't stop my dad bring all his sons. And the current crowd sure won't stop me bringing my son. What stops that is he's a blood bad luck charm. 3 games 3 defeats no more games for you young man.[/p][/quote]Nice bit of common sense. When my dad took me to football as a kid, he just said I might hear some stuff I shouldn't, but not to repeat it. Your kids don't turn bad by hearing someone on tv/at a football match saying something bad, their parents need to put things in context for them. Football didn't make me a violent sociopath, that was the video games. (feel like I have to point out that was a joke for the humour impaired!) Swindon1984

12:46pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Swindon1984 says...

Also, can people not see a fundanental distinction between singing about a player in a **** taking way (you fat *******) and the like, and singing about plane crashes, disparaging someone for the race/religion/sexual
ity etc? I mean come on. There's properly offensive, and there's offensive to the sort of people who find Last of the Summer Wine a bit "edgy." Can be a fine line sometimes I'll grant you but it shouldn't be all or nothing, we should be in a position to give a bit of banter and know where the line is.

Basically in an ideal world we wouldn't even be having this discussion, people would know better.
Also, can people not see a fundanental distinction between singing about a player in a **** taking way (you fat *******) and the like, and singing about plane crashes, disparaging someone for the race/religion/sexual ity etc? I mean come on. There's properly offensive, and there's offensive to the sort of people who find Last of the Summer Wine a bit "edgy." Can be a fine line sometimes I'll grant you but it shouldn't be all or nothing, we should be in a position to give a bit of banter and know where the line is. Basically in an ideal world we wouldn't even be having this discussion, people would know better. Swindon1984

12:47pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Pewsham Red says...

who am i wrote:
Have to say some of the posts on here today about Austin are pathetic don't guve me that **** that he conducted himself well last night the guy stuck two fingers up to us in the don stand and if he conducted himself half As much as he did last night when he was here then we wouldn't be having this debate. I for one am glad the majority last night gave the guy the stick he deserved. End off.
I am of the opposite view. I thought the abuse he got was unnecessary and did us no credit. It certainly was not a majority who gave him stick as there was barely a murmur in the DR, nor, from what I could tell, from the Arkells.

As usual, just like this forum, it was the vocal minority that made their point. I was glad that Charlie, in the main, showed a lot more class than the town end did.

As regards the 'v' sign - that was silly at worst but lets not forget that it was only a couple of seasons ago that Matt Ritchie did something verbally similar to his own fans, so lets not make too big a deal of it.
[quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: Have to say some of the posts on here today about Austin are pathetic don't guve me that **** that he conducted himself well last night the guy stuck two fingers up to us in the don stand and if he conducted himself half As much as he did last night when he was here then we wouldn't be having this debate. I for one am glad the majority last night gave the guy the stick he deserved. End off.[/p][/quote]I am of the opposite view. I thought the abuse he got was unnecessary and did us no credit. It certainly was not a majority who gave him stick as there was barely a murmur in the DR, nor, from what I could tell, from the Arkells. As usual, just like this forum, it was the vocal minority that made their point. I was glad that Charlie, in the main, showed a lot more class than the town end did. As regards the 'v' sign - that was silly at worst but lets not forget that it was only a couple of seasons ago that Matt Ritchie did something verbally similar to his own fans, so lets not make too big a deal of it. Pewsham Red

12:54pm Wed 26 Sep 12

stfc2011 says...

I thought last night we played really well and deserved the win, I hope we get a Man Utd , chelsea, liverpool or spurs now at home or away as we deserve a top club. As for Austin it was banter, me personally i like him as a player i think he is a very talented striker, We knew last night he was the one Burnley relied on and we had to try and get in his head, Fair play to him when he scored he didnt celebrate and at the end of the game, he clapped all the swindon fans and the Town End fans who are being criticised actually sung his name. which i thought is respect.

Austin played well for us. yes his personal life when he was here wasnt great but should we really care about that, every fan at swindon has a personal life and we all have bad times in our life, Wilson should have dealt with Austin better but never did.

Since he has gone to Burnley i feel he has grown up and i expect Eddie Howe has changed him alot. Im sure if Austin was under di canio he would be a better person, i wouldnt be suprised if we got prmotion next year to championship that di canio wouldnt try to sign him as he does score goals.
I thought last night we played really well and deserved the win, I hope we get a Man Utd , chelsea, liverpool or spurs now at home or away as we deserve a top club. As for Austin it was banter, me personally i like him as a player i think he is a very talented striker, We knew last night he was the one Burnley relied on and we had to try and get in his head, Fair play to him when he scored he didnt celebrate and at the end of the game, he clapped all the swindon fans and the Town End fans who are being criticised actually sung his name. which i thought is respect. Austin played well for us. yes his personal life when he was here wasnt great but should we really care about that, every fan at swindon has a personal life and we all have bad times in our life, Wilson should have dealt with Austin better but never did. Since he has gone to Burnley i feel he has grown up and i expect Eddie Howe has changed him alot. Im sure if Austin was under di canio he would be a better person, i wouldnt be suprised if we got prmotion next year to championship that di canio wouldnt try to sign him as he does score goals. stfc2011

1:28pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?
Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter? Oi Den!

1:45pm Wed 26 Sep 12

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?
I've kept out of the debate of the past few days as to whether Charlie is the good, the bad or the ugly! The chants you have mentioned from the Arkells I didn't really hear, the one that seemed to be the loudest is when the Town enders called him a greedy fat b*****d

I have my own views of his off the field side, which I will not bother to mention, there is no doubting on the field the boy has the knack of scoring goals and Burnley probably think they've got a snip at £1.2 million.

With regarding to any type of banter given to apposing teams, do you not remember Den the stick Atteyo got when Brizz city came to visit. I was a kid then, I can't remember if it was personal or not, but i've always thought of the vocal support for your team as being the twelve man.

By the way I'm sure Hughes of Notts County has had to put up with alot more abuse than charlie did last night since his release from prison, so unfortunately if it's seen as a problem, i think Charlie got off light. .
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?[/p][/quote]I've kept out of the debate of the past few days as to whether Charlie is the good, the bad or the ugly! The chants you have mentioned from the Arkells I didn't really hear, the one that seemed to be the loudest is when the Town enders called him a greedy fat b*****d I have my own views of his off the field side, which I will not bother to mention, there is no doubting on the field the boy has the knack of scoring goals and Burnley probably think they've got a snip at £1.2 million. With regarding to any type of banter given to apposing teams, do you not remember Den the stick Atteyo got when Brizz city came to visit. I was a kid then, I can't remember if it was personal or not, but i've always thought of the vocal support for your team as being the twelve man. By the way I'm sure Hughes of Notts County has had to put up with alot more abuse than charlie did last night since his release from prison, so unfortunately if it's seen as a problem, i think Charlie got off light. . old town robin

1:48pm Wed 26 Sep 12

RamsburyRed says...

Don't let's forget him yet, if he goes for £3m what's our share?
Don't let's forget him yet, if he goes for £3m what's our share? RamsburyRed

1:49pm Wed 26 Sep 12

SeanG92 says...

There was always going to be some banter lobbed in Charlies direction last night. But it was all in jest as far as i could tell.

The general joking nature of it was evident in the 'Nice one Benson, Nice one son.. "chant after his goal.

And everyone who stayed after the whistle must have heard the town end getting 'Charlie, Charlie Austin" going.
There was always going to be some banter lobbed in Charlies direction last night. But it was all in jest as far as i could tell. The general joking nature of it was evident in the 'Nice one Benson, Nice one son.. "chant after his goal. And everyone who stayed after the whistle must have heard the town end getting 'Charlie, Charlie Austin" going. SeanG92

1:51pm Wed 26 Sep 12

old town robin says...

RamsburyRed wrote:
Don't let's forget him yet, if he goes for £3m what's our share?
LR will probably confirm it, but I think it's 20% of £1.8m
[quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: Don't let's forget him yet, if he goes for £3m what's our share?[/p][/quote]LR will probably confirm it, but I think it's 20% of £1.8m old town robin

1:51pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Is that you Lovesey says...

Den I sang his name and clapped him, but didn't throw abuse once, I also can confirm that it was the same people, maybe they recognised a bit of class.
Den I sang his name and clapped him, but didn't throw abuse once, I also can confirm that it was the same people, maybe they recognised a bit of class. Is that you Lovesey

2:04pm Wed 26 Sep 12

RamsburyRed says...

old town robin wrote:
RamsburyRed wrote: Don't let's forget him yet, if he goes for £3m what's our share?
LR will probably confirm it, but I think it's 20% of £1.8m
Nice, but let's hope he goes for £5m then.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: Don't let's forget him yet, if he goes for £3m what's our share?[/p][/quote]LR will probably confirm it, but I think it's 20% of £1.8m[/p][/quote]Nice, but let's hope he goes for £5m then. RamsburyRed

2:07pm Wed 26 Sep 12

billbst says...

It is not often at L1 level you see someone who has the real potential to play in Premiership. For me Charlie had and continues to have that. Watching him was (is) a pleasure and apart from very late on in his time here he gave 100%. Would have loved to have seen him in the current set up. His play has improved but we have developed much more and I like what I see with our current strikers. Williams has the class to play at a high level too. Without putting our lads down I would pay very good money to see an Austin/Williams strike pairing. (I know - Dream on)
It is not often at L1 level you see someone who has the real potential to play in Premiership. For me Charlie had and continues to have that. Watching him was (is) a pleasure and apart from very late on in his time here he gave 100%. Would have loved to have seen him in the current set up. His play has improved but we have developed much more and I like what I see with our current strikers. Williams has the class to play at a high level too. Without putting our lads down I would pay very good money to see an Austin/Williams strike pairing. (I know - Dream on) billbst

2:08pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?
I've kept out of the debate of the past few days as to whether Charlie is the good, the bad or the ugly! The chants you have mentioned from the Arkells I didn't really hear, the one that seemed to be the loudest is when the Town enders called him a greedy fat b*****d

I have my own views of his off the field side, which I will not bother to mention, there is no doubting on the field the boy has the knack of scoring goals and Burnley probably think they've got a snip at £1.2 million.

With regarding to any type of banter given to apposing teams, do you not remember Den the stick Atteyo got when Brizz city came to visit. I was a kid then, I can't remember if it was personal or not, but i've always thought of the vocal support for your team as being the twelve man.

By the way I'm sure Hughes of Notts County has had to put up with alot more abuse than charlie did last night since his release from prison, so unfortunately if it's seen as a problem, i think Charlie got off light. .
OTR, I'm no prude when it comes to swearing and dishing out stick. I've done enough of it myself. But I think "We f*cking hate you" is taking it beyond the boundaries of banter and down to a very low level. It doesn't offend me. I'm just embarrassed by it.
.
Thanks to Lovesey for clarifying re the abuse / applause.
.
John Atyeo was slightly before my time. I didn't realise he had been the subject of stick. I'd always assumed he was well respected araound here.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?[/p][/quote]I've kept out of the debate of the past few days as to whether Charlie is the good, the bad or the ugly! The chants you have mentioned from the Arkells I didn't really hear, the one that seemed to be the loudest is when the Town enders called him a greedy fat b*****d I have my own views of his off the field side, which I will not bother to mention, there is no doubting on the field the boy has the knack of scoring goals and Burnley probably think they've got a snip at £1.2 million. With regarding to any type of banter given to apposing teams, do you not remember Den the stick Atteyo got when Brizz city came to visit. I was a kid then, I can't remember if it was personal or not, but i've always thought of the vocal support for your team as being the twelve man. By the way I'm sure Hughes of Notts County has had to put up with alot more abuse than charlie did last night since his release from prison, so unfortunately if it's seen as a problem, i think Charlie got off light. .[/p][/quote]OTR, I'm no prude when it comes to swearing and dishing out stick. I've done enough of it myself. But I think "We f*cking hate you" is taking it beyond the boundaries of banter and down to a very low level. It doesn't offend me. I'm just embarrassed by it. . Thanks to Lovesey for clarifying re the abuse / applause. . John Atyeo was slightly before my time. I didn't realise he had been the subject of stick. I'd always assumed he was well respected araound here. Oi Den!

2:10pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud. Oi Den!

2:14pm Wed 26 Sep 12

London Red says...

I don't know for sure OTR - as the details were never formally released
.
The £1.2m only really came to light yesterday as before it was reported to be around £1.6m mark (unless we have £400k of add-ons potentially to come like we did with Cox)
.
But 20% is the usual sell on - and you are right it is only ever on the profit section
.
Still another £360k would do nicely!
.
Though if they did pay that extra £400k it would drop to £280k sell on - but still be more in the long run
.
Den don't think even our money men would fund a £3m+ move
.
No fan of Austin as said yesterday but do want him to do well and get a big money move like Rodriquez or Rhodes as STFC will benefit from that as we see above
I don't know for sure OTR - as the details were never formally released . The £1.2m only really came to light yesterday as before it was reported to be around £1.6m mark (unless we have £400k of add-ons potentially to come like we did with Cox) . But 20% is the usual sell on - and you are right it is only ever on the profit section . Still another £360k would do nicely! . Though if they did pay that extra £400k it would drop to £280k sell on - but still be more in the long run . Den don't think even our money men would fund a £3m+ move . No fan of Austin as said yesterday but do want him to do well and get a big money move like Rodriquez or Rhodes as STFC will benefit from that as we see above London Red

2:28pm Wed 26 Sep 12

smirg kcab says...

Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it.
Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer.
Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves.
Onwards and upwards
Leeds at home please
Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it. Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer. Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves. Onwards and upwards Leeds at home please smirg kcab

2:30pm Wed 26 Sep 12

southside7 says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Den I sang his name and clapped him, but didn't throw abuse once, I also can confirm that it was the same people, maybe they recognised a bit of class.
Maybe it highlights the low IQ?
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Den I sang his name and clapped him, but didn't throw abuse once, I also can confirm that it was the same people, maybe they recognised a bit of class.[/p][/quote]Maybe it highlights the low IQ? southside7

3:57pm Wed 26 Sep 12

andy5364 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it.
Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer.
Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves.
Onwards and upwards
Leeds at home please
You need to buy yourself a mirror then !!!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it. Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer. Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves. Onwards and upwards Leeds at home please[/p][/quote]You need to buy yourself a mirror then !!! andy5364

4:07pm Wed 26 Sep 12

madterrier says...

Wizard - superb post. That really should draw a line under it.
Wizard - superb post. That really should draw a line under it. madterrier

4:24pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Di Canios Shoes says...

Sorry to repost my post from a previous article but i should really of posted it on this thread..

I dont comment on here regular but i must say something about the abuse Charlie got yesterday, I was at the game and felt some of the abuse was uncalled for, dont get me wrong i love a bit of banter and reminding Charlie of the score and things like that are fine but when we are singing "we hate charlie Austin" in less polite terms and talking about him "doing ya wife" i do wonder if it was needed, he did leave on bad terms but hes a young lad, hes not a 29 year old pro whos lived a life and played the game and then shown no loyalty but at the same time i think he did handle this terrible at the time, but we are doing well now so why worry about the past? Charlie is a good player we all know it, we all seen it and we all experienced great highs and regretfully a few lows with him, but Banter is one thing, and Abuse is another, I assume if we got Bradford in the next round that Alan Connell will get a great response on this basis? but let me guess... some people will give him abuse too just because he used to play for us... is that right? NO! So lets just support OUR team and let the opposition fans worry about their players...
Sorry to repost my post from a previous article but i should really of posted it on this thread.. I dont comment on here regular but i must say something about the abuse Charlie got yesterday, I was at the game and felt some of the abuse was uncalled for, dont get me wrong i love a bit of banter and reminding Charlie of the score and things like that are fine but when we are singing "we hate charlie Austin" in less polite terms and talking about him "doing ya wife" i do wonder if it was needed, he did leave on bad terms but hes a young lad, hes not a 29 year old pro whos lived a life and played the game and then shown no loyalty but at the same time i think he did handle this terrible at the time, but we are doing well now so why worry about the past? Charlie is a good player we all know it, we all seen it and we all experienced great highs and regretfully a few lows with him, but Banter is one thing, and Abuse is another, I assume if we got Bradford in the next round that Alan Connell will get a great response on this basis? but let me guess... some people will give him abuse too just because he used to play for us... is that right? NO! So lets just support OUR team and let the opposition fans worry about their players... Di Canios Shoes

4:56pm Wed 26 Sep 12

who am i says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it.
Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer.
Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves.
Onwards and upwards
Leeds at home please
so predictable.........
.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it. Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer. Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves. Onwards and upwards Leeds at home please[/p][/quote]so predictable......... . who am i

5:18pm Wed 26 Sep 12

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?
I've kept out of the debate of the past few days as to whether Charlie is the good, the bad or the ugly! The chants you have mentioned from the Arkells I didn't really hear, the one that seemed to be the loudest is when the Town enders called him a greedy fat b*****d

I have my own views of his off the field side, which I will not bother to mention, there is no doubting on the field the boy has the knack of scoring goals and Burnley probably think they've got a snip at £1.2 million.

With regarding to any type of banter given to apposing teams, do you not remember Den the stick Atteyo got when Brizz city came to visit. I was a kid then, I can't remember if it was personal or not, but i've always thought of the vocal support for your team as being the twelve man.

By the way I'm sure Hughes of Notts County has had to put up with alot more abuse than charlie did last night since his release from prison, so unfortunately if it's seen as a problem, i think Charlie got off light. .
OTR, I'm no prude when it comes to swearing and dishing out stick. I've done enough of it myself. But I think "We f*cking hate you" is taking it beyond the boundaries of banter and down to a very low level. It doesn't offend me. I'm just embarrassed by it.
.
Thanks to Lovesey for clarifying re the abuse / applause.
.
John Atyeo was slightly before my time. I didn't realise he had been the subject of stick. I'd always assumed he was well respected araound here.
Atyeo was respected and feared as he was a preditor, as I said good vocal support can be the 12th man and I did say I never heard the chants of hating Austin, certainly would not condone it if i had heard it, Think you are being a bit sentitive on the issue Den,I didn't infered you were offended or embarrassed, so guess you are misinterpreting my post
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Was it really the same Town fans who sang "We f*cking hate you" that clapped him off at the end? I'd be inclined to think it was two separate groups. If not, then I am very puzzled that they can "f*cking hate" someone one minute, and applaud him the next. Or is someone going to tell me that "we f*cking hate you" is just harmless banter?[/p][/quote]I've kept out of the debate of the past few days as to whether Charlie is the good, the bad or the ugly! The chants you have mentioned from the Arkells I didn't really hear, the one that seemed to be the loudest is when the Town enders called him a greedy fat b*****d I have my own views of his off the field side, which I will not bother to mention, there is no doubting on the field the boy has the knack of scoring goals and Burnley probably think they've got a snip at £1.2 million. With regarding to any type of banter given to apposing teams, do you not remember Den the stick Atteyo got when Brizz city came to visit. I was a kid then, I can't remember if it was personal or not, but i've always thought of the vocal support for your team as being the twelve man. By the way I'm sure Hughes of Notts County has had to put up with alot more abuse than charlie did last night since his release from prison, so unfortunately if it's seen as a problem, i think Charlie got off light. .[/p][/quote]OTR, I'm no prude when it comes to swearing and dishing out stick. I've done enough of it myself. But I think "We f*cking hate you" is taking it beyond the boundaries of banter and down to a very low level. It doesn't offend me. I'm just embarrassed by it. . Thanks to Lovesey for clarifying re the abuse / applause. . John Atyeo was slightly before my time. I didn't realise he had been the subject of stick. I'd always assumed he was well respected araound here.[/p][/quote]Atyeo was respected and feared as he was a preditor, as I said good vocal support can be the 12th man and I did say I never heard the chants of hating Austin, certainly would not condone it if i had heard it, Think you are being a bit sentitive on the issue Den,I didn't infered you were offended or embarrassed, so guess you are misinterpreting my post old town robin

5:27pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Red1681 says...

Perhaps Charlie did not celebrate his "goal" because it was an own goal.
From the highlights looks like NT got the last touch.
Anyway, it's history now, looking forward to Saturday.
Perhaps Charlie did not celebrate his "goal" because it was an own goal. From the highlights looks like NT got the last touch. Anyway, it's history now, looking forward to Saturday. Red1681

5:35pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle . jayden

5:44pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint. Oi Den!

5:49pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

OTR, the perils of the written word, eh?! I didn't think you were inferring that at all. I was just trying to explain that I think there's a difference between a bit of stick and hate filled abuse, whichever player may be involved.
OTR, the perils of the written word, eh?! I didn't think you were inferring that at all. I was just trying to explain that I think there's a difference between a bit of stick and hate filled abuse, whichever player may be involved. Oi Den!

5:58pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oxon-Red says...

Be interesting to see how STFC respond to the return of JC on Saturday !

Will he receive the same abuse as CA ?

COYMR
Be interesting to see how STFC respond to the return of JC on Saturday ! Will he receive the same abuse as CA ? COYMR Oxon-Red

6:22pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half? jayden

6:35pm Wed 26 Sep 12

London Red says...

Shouldn't do - he fired them into L1 and then left when out of contract
.
That is totally different to slapping in a transfer request halfway through the season
.
But I do expect him to get some though
Shouldn't do - he fired them into L1 and then left when out of contract . That is totally different to slapping in a transfer request halfway through the season . But I do expect him to get some though London Red

6:39pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

Steve do you still want the seat for tues?
Steve do you still want the seat for tues? jayden

7:12pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
Looked inside to me - but I was a long way away and in the end I thought maybe the foul was outside but they ended up inside, making it look like a pen. The ref was a lot nearer than me, so probably had a much better view.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?[/p][/quote]Looked inside to me - but I was a long way away and in the end I thought maybe the foul was outside but they ended up inside, making it look like a pen. The ref was a lot nearer than me, so probably had a much better view. Oi Den!

7:22pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Shouldn't do - he fired them into L1 and then left when out of contract
.
That is totally different to slapping in a transfer request halfway through the season
.
But I do expect him to get some though
LR, since when were contracts in football even worth the paper they are written on? Players have always moved before the expiry of their contracts and midway through seasons. Would you like all our players to stay until their contracts exprire, in which case we will get s0d all for many of them? Or do you think players should not move during the season, in which case we will not be able to buy players until the close season. And "slapping in a transfer request"? That's the sensationalist language of a tabloid newspaper pretending to be reporting but actually commenting in the most biased way. Serious question: would you have no transfer window during the season?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't do - he fired them into L1 and then left when out of contract . That is totally different to slapping in a transfer request halfway through the season . But I do expect him to get some though[/p][/quote]LR, since when were contracts in football even worth the paper they are written on? Players have always moved before the expiry of their contracts and midway through seasons. Would you like all our players to stay until their contracts exprire, in which case we will get s0d all for many of them? Or do you think players should not move during the season, in which case we will not be able to buy players until the close season. And "slapping in a transfer request"? That's the sensationalist language of a tabloid newspaper pretending to be reporting but actually commenting in the most biased way. Serious question: would you have no transfer window during the season? Oi Den!

7:34pm Wed 26 Sep 12

southside7 says...

jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
Glad someone brought this up. I thought it was a straight red, but no-one else seemed to react that much (players and fans alike).. thought it must have been my eyesight.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?[/p][/quote]Glad someone brought this up. I thought it was a straight red, but no-one else seemed to react that much (players and fans alike).. thought it must have been my eyesight. southside7

8:03pm Wed 26 Sep 12

old town robin says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it.
Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer.
Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves.
Onwards and upwards
Leeds at home please
Grim, I would have thought you would be saving your best for Nov 2nd when your favorite manager comes back to visit. What do you think the town end chant should be for Danny boy.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it. Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer. Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves. Onwards and upwards Leeds at home please[/p][/quote]Grim, I would have thought you would be saving your best for Nov 2nd when your favorite manager comes back to visit. What do you think the town end chant should be for Danny boy. old town robin

8:09pm Wed 26 Sep 12

old town robin says...

old town robin wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it.
Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer.
Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves.
Onwards and upwards
Leeds at home please
Grim, I would have thought you would be saving your best for Nov 2nd when your favorite manager comes back to visit. What do you think the town end chant should be for Danny boy.
Forgot to say, next returnee will be Rose playing for Colchester next Tuesday, think he will not get too much stick, expect Ritchie will look forward to seeing him again.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Let's hope all you tosseers boo that wankeer Douglas when he comes here, but I doubt it. Good to here one town end fan slaughtering Austin then said I thought benson left in the summer. Some cretins on here need to have a good look at themselves. Onwards and upwards Leeds at home please[/p][/quote]Grim, I would have thought you would be saving your best for Nov 2nd when your favorite manager comes back to visit. What do you think the town end chant should be for Danny boy.[/p][/quote]Forgot to say, next returnee will be Rose playing for Colchester next Tuesday, think he will not get too much stick, expect Ritchie will look forward to seeing him again. old town robin

8:11pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

southside7 wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
Glad someone brought this up. I thought it was a straight red, but no-one else seemed to react that much (players and fans alike).. thought it must have been my eyesight.
Hi southside yep me to but i must say my eyes werent the best last night,
[quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?[/p][/quote]Glad someone brought this up. I thought it was a straight red, but no-one else seemed to react that much (players and fans alike).. thought it must have been my eyesight.[/p][/quote]Hi southside yep me to but i must say my eyes werent the best last night, jayden

8:11pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

southside7 wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
Glad someone brought this up. I thought it was a straight red, but no-one else seemed to react that much (players and fans alike).. thought it must have been my eyesight.
Hi southside yep me to but i must say my eyes werent the best last night,
[quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?[/p][/quote]Glad someone brought this up. I thought it was a straight red, but no-one else seemed to react that much (players and fans alike).. thought it must have been my eyesight.[/p][/quote]Hi southside yep me to but i must say my eyes werent the best last night, jayden

8:20pm Wed 26 Sep 12

London Red says...

Den I'm not arguing for arguing sake - you have just decided to have a go at one of my posts just because it's mine
Den I'm not arguing for arguing sake - you have just decided to have a go at one of my posts just because it's mine London Red

8:23pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Den I'm not arguing for arguing sake - you have just decided to have a go at one of my posts just because it's mine
Sorry LR, that wasn't the intention. I was trying to make some serious points to question yours. Maybe I didn't express them very well.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Den I'm not arguing for arguing sake - you have just decided to have a go at one of my posts just because it's mine[/p][/quote]Sorry LR, that wasn't the intention. I was trying to make some serious points to question yours. Maybe I didn't express them very well. Oi Den!

8:26pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Steve. Brentford says...

jayden wrote:
Steve do you still want the seat for tues?
Jayden, still on for Colchester mate.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Steve do you still want the seat for tues?[/p][/quote]Jayden, still on for Colchester mate. Steve. Brentford

8:27pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
Looked inside to me - but I was a long way away and in the end I thought maybe the foul was outside but they ended up inside, making it look like a pen. The ref was a lot nearer than me, so probably had a much better view.
Den where do you sit i sit in the Arkells i also thought it was inside but like we say they even theirselves out during the course of a season ,one last one the size of the crowd it looked a few more than that was announced or was it my eyes again.I took 2 new people last night and they loved it so thats 3 new fans as my Grandson also wnts to go next time again he would have loed seeing the ball clear the top off the Arkells last night.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?[/p][/quote]Looked inside to me - but I was a long way away and in the end I thought maybe the foul was outside but they ended up inside, making it look like a pen. The ref was a lot nearer than me, so probably had a much better view.[/p][/quote]Den where do you sit i sit in the Arkells i also thought it was inside but like we say they even theirselves out during the course of a season ,one last one the size of the crowd it looked a few more than that was announced or was it my eyes again.I took 2 new people last night and they loved it so thats 3 new fans as my Grandson also wnts to go next time again he would have loed seeing the ball clear the top off the Arkells last night. jayden

8:31pm Wed 26 Sep 12

jayden says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
jayden wrote:
Steve do you still want the seat for tues?
Jayden, still on for Colchester mate.
Hi steve good ill save you a seat we will fix it up on sunday times all that
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Steve do you still want the seat for tues?[/p][/quote]Jayden, still on for Colchester mate.[/p][/quote]Hi steve good ill save you a seat we will fix it up on sunday times all that jayden

9:35pm Wed 26 Sep 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Den/Jayden From where I sit (in line in the DR) it was inside but wasn't a foul. Double mistake from the ref!
Den/Jayden From where I sit (in line in the DR) it was inside but wasn't a foul. Double mistake from the ref! dreamofacleansheet2

9:41pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.
Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .
Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.
yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?
Looked inside to me - but I was a long way away and in the end I thought maybe the foul was outside but they ended up inside, making it look like a pen. The ref was a lot nearer than me, so probably had a much better view.
Den where do you sit i sit in the Arkells i also thought it was inside but like we say they even theirselves out during the course of a season ,one last one the size of the crowd it looked a few more than that was announced or was it my eyes again.I took 2 new people last night and they loved it so thats 3 new fans as my Grandson also wnts to go next time again he would have loed seeing the ball clear the top off the Arkells last night.
Just left of PDC - as you look at the pitch - near the back. I was a bit further towards the Bank last night. We seem to be agreeing on everything tonight! If I'd had to guess the crowd I would have said about 1,000 more than was announced. Reminds me of the old days, when the club fiddled the attendance figures so they could understate income. You could hear a laugh go round the ground when they announced the crowd! It was obvious what they were up to. I'm not saying our board are so unscrupulous - or so stupid.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "araound"? It's the typing, not the spelling. Honest m'lud.[/p][/quote]Hi Den to change the topic what was your take on Matts tackle from where i was sat it looked a bad tackle .[/p][/quote]Hiya jayden. Yes, the exact words I said to my wife (unusually with me at the game) at the time - that's a bad tackle. I didn't think there was any malice in it but it was late and I was surprised he didn't get at least a booking for it. I thought it was a credit to the players on both sides (and the ref?) that it didn't become a flashpoint.[/p][/quote]yes Den i different day a red card then the game changes,thats one we got away with having said that the lines man on the Arkells was poor .And was it a pen or free kick in the second half?[/p][/quote]Looked inside to me - but I was a long way away and in the end I thought maybe the foul was outside but they ended up inside, making it look like a pen. The ref was a lot nearer than me, so probably had a much better view.[/p][/quote]Den where do you sit i sit in the Arkells i also thought it was inside but like we say they even theirselves out during the course of a season ,one last one the size of the crowd it looked a few more than that was announced or was it my eyes again.I took 2 new people last night and they loved it so thats 3 new fans as my Grandson also wnts to go next time again he would have loed seeing the ball clear the top off the Arkells last night.[/p][/quote]Just left of PDC - as you look at the pitch - near the back. I was a bit further towards the Bank last night. We seem to be agreeing on everything tonight! If I'd had to guess the crowd I would have said about 1,000 more than was announced. Reminds me of the old days, when the club fiddled the attendance figures so they could understate income. You could hear a laugh go round the ground when they announced the crowd! It was obvious what they were up to. I'm not saying our board are so unscrupulous - or so stupid. Oi Den!

9:44pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Oi Den! says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Den/Jayden From where I sit (in line in the DR) it was inside but wasn't a foul. Double mistake from the ref!
Ah, I thought that too! But I just assumed I hadn't seen it properly. Funny ol' game.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Den/Jayden From where I sit (in line in the DR) it was inside but wasn't a foul. Double mistake from the ref![/p][/quote]Ah, I thought that too! But I just assumed I hadn't seen it properly. Funny ol' game. Oi Den!

9:50pm Wed 26 Sep 12

London Red says...

Den - sorry if misunderstood but it seemed a reaction based on the back of an Austin comment
.
My remark about the contract was Collins went there gave his all over a number of years, helped them up but then chose to move on at the end of his contract - to me nothing wrong with that
.
Technically no different to Bodin rejecting a deal at us - don't agree it was best for him but doesn't leave a bitter taste
.
Had JC demanded a move in Jan and then put in a request when Shrewbury said no - I would fully understand why their fans would be p1ssed off - especially as they may have been L2 now had he!
.
I'm sorry but I don't buy it was going to harm CA's career line - the career which saw him on a building site only 12 months earlier!
.
Yes I know the Bouremouth wanted him but were in an embargo - but why had no one else signed him between then and October when we got him?
.
Why were no others in for him when we did if he was that hot a property?
.
I just felt he owed us at least the season - he could have kept us up like Cox and left with Hero status like Cox
.
That's why I see those 2 differently
.
As for windows I personally think the window should shut prior to the season starting
.
I think we should then have a winter break and the next window should be in that break
.
It allows managers to focus on deals more and bed new players in better
.
Loans should still be allowed in between as clubs need them as can't all have massive squads
.
I don't think players should always see out deals - but it needs to be more mutual
.
A player can be in contract but it be right for them to move on for both
.
Parkin and Cox prime example. Ritchie should we not go up next summer would enter that situation too for me
.
I just think players should respect their employers more and not request moves to force it through when not right for the club
.
Modric last summer is an example - Spurs said no and he still had an excellent season
.
Let's remember they are not regular employees and can't be released on a months notice like we can
.
Also lets not forget those who left us could easily have said no and saw out their deals (Whalley and Razor did!) but instead negotiated pay off so would be better off than us if made redundant or sacked
Den - sorry if misunderstood but it seemed a reaction based on the back of an Austin comment . My remark about the contract was Collins went there gave his all over a number of years, helped them up but then chose to move on at the end of his contract - to me nothing wrong with that . Technically no different to Bodin rejecting a deal at us - don't agree it was best for him but doesn't leave a bitter taste . Had JC demanded a move in Jan and then put in a request when Shrewbury said no - I would fully understand why their fans would be p1ssed off - especially as they may have been L2 now had he! . I'm sorry but I don't buy it was going to harm CA's career line - the career which saw him on a building site only 12 months earlier! . Yes I know the Bouremouth wanted him but were in an embargo - but why had no one else signed him between then and October when we got him? . Why were no others in for him when we did if he was that hot a property? . I just felt he owed us at least the season - he could have kept us up like Cox and left with Hero status like Cox . That's why I see those 2 differently . As for windows I personally think the window should shut prior to the season starting . I think we should then have a winter break and the next window should be in that break . It allows managers to focus on deals more and bed new players in better . Loans should still be allowed in between as clubs need them as can't all have massive squads . I don't think players should always see out deals - but it needs to be more mutual . A player can be in contract but it be right for them to move on for both . Parkin and Cox prime example. Ritchie should we not go up next summer would enter that situation too for me . I just think players should respect their employers more and not request moves to force it through when not right for the club . Modric last summer is an example - Spurs said no and he still had an excellent season . Let's remember they are not regular employees and can't be released on a months notice like we can . Also lets not forget those who left us could easily have said no and saw out their deals (Whalley and Razor did!) but instead negotiated pay off so would be better off than us if made redundant or sacked London Red

10:00pm Wed 26 Sep 12

the wizard says...

Oi Den! wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Den/Jayden From where I sit (in line in the DR) it was inside but wasn't a foul. Double mistake from the ref!
Ah, I thought that too! But I just assumed I hadn't seen it properly. Funny ol' game.
Den, whether it was a foul or not, it certainly looked inside the area from the DR where I was sat.

Mind you, this was the ref that cannot, would not and refused to administer anything like the stipulated 10yd rule. To further compound matters he then cards players for asking for that. He blew for the foul, he should see it through with the same application. Clearly he was not up to the task.

Sadly the whole game these days is not supported by refs who are up to the challenge. That said the one we had on Saturday was better than most, but what will Canioman make of Trevor Kettle ? I think he will be doing cartwheels and back-flips on the spot, LOL. We played Orient that day and he red carded sh1t-bag-Sheehan. It ended up all square 2-2. Debacle of a game with him in charge. The sending off of AS was about all he did get right that day.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Den/Jayden From where I sit (in line in the DR) it was inside but wasn't a foul. Double mistake from the ref![/p][/quote]Ah, I thought that too! But I just assumed I hadn't seen it properly. Funny ol' game.[/p][/quote]Den, whether it was a foul or not, it certainly looked inside the area from the DR where I was sat. Mind you, this was the ref that cannot, would not and refused to administer anything like the stipulated 10yd rule. To further compound matters he then cards players for asking for that. He blew for the foul, he should see it through with the same application. Clearly he was not up to the task. Sadly the whole game these days is not supported by refs who are up to the challenge. That said the one we had on Saturday was better than most, but what will Canioman make of Trevor Kettle ? I think he will be doing cartwheels and back-flips on the spot, LOL. We played Orient that day and he red carded sh1t-bag-Sheehan. It ended up all square 2-2. Debacle of a game with him in charge. The sending off of AS was about all he did get right that day. the wizard

10:48pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Malkym says...

"Clearly he was not up to the task."

"That said the one we had on Saturday was better than most,"

"Debacle of a game with him in charge"

So then Wiz -your opinion of referee's infallibility is well documented on these forums and my take is that overall your general opinion of the man in black is lowr than a snakes belly?

Pray please do tell what your panacea to cure all refereeing ills might be? Do we have cameras installed to cover every conceiveable angle -thus being able to do away with the linos?

I'll always be a fan of the man in the middle making the decisions -and some you'll win some you won't.-isn't that all part and parcel of the beautiful game?
"Clearly he was not up to the task." "That said the one we had on Saturday was better than most," "Debacle of a game with him in charge" So then Wiz -your opinion of referee's infallibility is well documented on these forums and my take is that overall your general opinion of the man in black is lowr than a snakes belly? Pray please do tell what your panacea to cure all refereeing ills might be? Do we have cameras installed to cover every conceiveable angle -thus being able to do away with the linos? I'll always be a fan of the man in the middle making the decisions -and some you'll win some you won't.-isn't that all part and parcel of the beautiful game? Malkym

11:09pm Wed 26 Sep 12

louiscassius says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
who am i wrote:
Have to say some of the posts on here today about Austin are pathetic don't guve me that **** that he conducted himself well last night the guy stuck two fingers up to us in the don stand and if he conducted himself half As much as he did last night when he was here then we wouldn't be having this debate. I for one am glad the majority last night gave the guy the stick he deserved. End off.
I am of the opposite view. I thought the abuse he got was unnecessary and did us no credit. It certainly was not a majority who gave him stick as there was barely a murmur in the DR, nor, from what I could tell, from the Arkells.

As usual, just like this forum, it was the vocal minority that made their point. I was glad that Charlie, in the main, showed a lot more class than the town end did.

As regards the 'v' sign - that was silly at worst but lets not forget that it was only a couple of seasons ago that Matt Ritchie did something verbally similar to his own fans, so lets not make too big a deal of it.
Sorry to disagree with your view too.

I look forward to Villa game.

Lets put the CA thing to bed and good ridance to the fella....

As grim would say.....

Onwards and Upwards....
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: Have to say some of the posts on here today about Austin are pathetic don't guve me that **** that he conducted himself well last night the guy stuck two fingers up to us in the don stand and if he conducted himself half As much as he did last night when he was here then we wouldn't be having this debate. I for one am glad the majority last night gave the guy the stick he deserved. End off.[/p][/quote]I am of the opposite view. I thought the abuse he got was unnecessary and did us no credit. It certainly was not a majority who gave him stick as there was barely a murmur in the DR, nor, from what I could tell, from the Arkells. As usual, just like this forum, it was the vocal minority that made their point. I was glad that Charlie, in the main, showed a lot more class than the town end did. As regards the 'v' sign - that was silly at worst but lets not forget that it was only a couple of seasons ago that Matt Ritchie did something verbally similar to his own fans, so lets not make too big a deal of it.[/p][/quote]Sorry to disagree with your view too. I look forward to Villa game. Lets put the CA thing to bed and good ridance to the fella.... As grim would say..... Onwards and Upwards.... louiscassius

11:16pm Wed 26 Sep 12

the wizard says...

Malkym wrote:
"Clearly he was not up to the task."

"That said the one we had on Saturday was better than most,"

"Debacle of a game with him in charge"

So then Wiz -your opinion of referee's infallibility is well documented on these forums and my take is that overall your general opinion of the man in black is lowr than a snakes belly?

Pray please do tell what your panacea to cure all refereeing ills might be? Do we have cameras installed to cover every conceiveable angle -thus being able to do away with the linos?

I'll always be a fan of the man in the middle making the decisions -and some you'll win some you won't.-isn't that all part and parcel of the beautiful game?
You could be sat anywhere in the ground last night and it was clear that when we had a free kick awarded he was bottling it to get the wall back 10 yds. That is his job, if he didn't want to do that then he shouldn't have whistled in the first place. The wall would not have argued with Collina, but they ignored him, why, because he was weak.

The man in the middle does have a very difficult job to do, I have never disputed that, but he should also have the courage of his convictions, and in a Cup game such as this assert his authority from the start. It makes for an easier game all round.

Stricter reffing from the outset puts players where they need to be, in no illusion to what is going to happen should they stray over the line. We have had many good refs in this country, and its all about respect, and if they put their foot down early in the game, it normally goes to a higher standard as the players use their skill potential.

Now, I'm looking forward to Villa, I'm finishing my beer and then bed, so I'll say a polite goodnight. Hope you enjoyed the game last night as much as I did. Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: "Clearly he was not up to the task." "That said the one we had on Saturday was better than most," "Debacle of a game with him in charge" So then Wiz -your opinion of referee's infallibility is well documented on these forums and my take is that overall your general opinion of the man in black is lowr than a snakes belly? Pray please do tell what your panacea to cure all refereeing ills might be? Do we have cameras installed to cover every conceiveable angle -thus being able to do away with the linos? I'll always be a fan of the man in the middle making the decisions -and some you'll win some you won't.-isn't that all part and parcel of the beautiful game?[/p][/quote]You could be sat anywhere in the ground last night and it was clear that when we had a free kick awarded he was bottling it to get the wall back 10 yds. That is his job, if he didn't want to do that then he shouldn't have whistled in the first place. The wall would not have argued with Collina, but they ignored him, why, because he was weak. The man in the middle does have a very difficult job to do, I have never disputed that, but he should also have the courage of his convictions, and in a Cup game such as this assert his authority from the start. It makes for an easier game all round. Stricter reffing from the outset puts players where they need to be, in no illusion to what is going to happen should they stray over the line. We have had many good refs in this country, and its all about respect, and if they put their foot down early in the game, it normally goes to a higher standard as the players use their skill potential. Now, I'm looking forward to Villa, I'm finishing my beer and then bed, so I'll say a polite goodnight. Hope you enjoyed the game last night as much as I did. Cheers. the wizard

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