Kerrouche determined to prove his worth (From Swindon Advertiser)

It's a real shame it's come to this, but what was it Di Canio said earlier this season? You don't have to like me, but you have to follow me. Clearly Kerrouche wasn't prepared to follow him, so he's out.

I have to agree, this really is a shame. 8 in 18 is not a bad return and to go to our rivals with what appears to be an attitude of 'I will let my feet do the talking' leaves me uncomfortable.

I really wish I knew what has heppened here between the man and the manager. It is all clouded.

However, all said and done, PDC is the man in charge and we are where we are because of his drive and determination. If Kerrouche crossed a line or lacked the PDC mentatlity / effort then this loan and possible loss was inevitible.....

COYR!!

I have made a few posts about Medhi going. Nice guy and can score goals. I would of hoped he could be managed instead of ejected. Going to pox is not good for us and I hope we don't live to regret it.
Not sure he will be cheered if he ever comes back...shame. In PDC we trust.

Me too. He is the best striker the club has, as his stats prove. Paolo has done a lot of brilliant things for the club, but this one confounds me. An experienced manager would resolve any issues and get Kerrouche scoring for us again.

To transfer our best striker to the Pox is as baffling as it is annoying.

Two slightly difeerings sets of comments here.

PDC "if he does well then perhaps he can return to us"

Kerrouche "Pox gave me the opprottunity, the gaffer, no concern over local rivalry, etc".

Says it all to me.

Chog wrote:
Two slightly difeerings sets of comments here. PDC "if he does well then perhaps he can return to us" Kerrouche "Pox gave me the opprottunity, the gaffer, no concern over local rivalry, etc". Says it all to me.

Differing sets

Chog wrote:

Chog wrote: Two slightly difeerings sets of comments here. PDC "if he does well then perhaps he can return to us" Kerrouche "Pox gave me the opprottunity, the gaffer, no concern over local rivalry, etc". Says it all to me.

Differing sets

Chog
You might want to to check out "opprottunity" too! ;)

(OK, this is pretty weak... but here goes ...)

'Kerrouche, Kerrouche,
You used to be on fire,
For every goal
the Town went higher & higher,
Kerrouche, Kerrouche,
Your ain't on fire no more'

(to the chorus of "Denise, Denise" by R & R).

Itchy Bush wrote:

Chog wrote:

Chog wrote: Two slightly difeerings sets of comments here. PDC "if he does well then perhaps he can return to us" Kerrouche "Pox gave me the opprottunity, the gaffer, no concern over local rivalry, etc". Says it all to me.

Differing sets

Chog You might want to to check out "opprottunity" too! ;)

That will be my old welders fingers...........do
n't fit the keyboard.

Conflicts of personality arise everywhere and the immediate solution is usually separation. With promotion a one year project there was no time to allow someone to "paddle in a different direction ". Paolo is not perfect but I`m with him while Town is doing so well.

This time he has got it wrong! In any employer/employee relationship there are issues and need to be managed.Bully tactics like this went out with the Tolpuddle Martyrs.! Sometimes one has to listen to both sides. Furthermore getting sent to the stands aint clever! I await the first fallout with the board when he will do a Fabio,

For the first time I can recall, I am not happy with Paolo. Have just seen a picture of Medhi wearing an Oxturd shirt. Should never have let him go there and I never want to see him wearing a Town shirt ever again. He will score and he will then move perminently. You have one massive weakness Paolo, pride, and it will be your downfall.

Bert Head wrote:
This time he has got it wrong! In any employer/employee relationship there are issues and need to be managed.Bully tactics like this went out with the Tolpuddle Martyrs.! Sometimes one has to listen to both sides. Furthermore getting sent to the stands aint clever! I await the first fallout with the board when he will do a Fabio,

We all have different opinions dont we ? I`ve been managed by differing bosses and have learnt to work to their requirements. The current spirit shown by the players and their attitude towards Paolo tells me that despite Kerrouche being a good player seems to want to do things his way and not as directed . I wish Kerrouche well but think he`s better off being elsewhere !

No player is bigger than the club. Yes PDC is at the helm & knows better than most that you must respect his hierarchy’s decisions for the better good. But you’ve got to have a positive mental attitude on & off the field if you want to fulfil your potential. The only way MK can prove himself to PDC is not by banging in the goals for the Pox but to show he has the maturity to realise he has made mistakes & wasn’t performing to the standards expected from him. Everybody has an off day, but don’t take it heart, you don’t go off & have a strop, you pull your red & white socks up, bite the bullet & get on with it.

IMHO I think the damage is done & it would be hard to pull this one back & won’t be surprised to see him go out on loan again for the rest of the season & then be sold on! The only sad points are he could become even better if he was willing to stay, listening & learn!!

There are surely more positives than negatives here. Although most of us wished this wouldn't happen, at least it can clear the stalemate.

Either Kerrouche fails to confirm Paulo's decision, or he does well and either comes back here to bang them in for us, or we get a transfer fee for him.

madterrier wrote:
Me too. He is the best striker the club has, as his stats prove. Paolo has done a lot of brilliant things for the club, but this one confounds me. An experienced manager would resolve any issues and get Kerrouche scoring for us again. To transfer our best striker to the Pox is as baffling as it is annoying.

You don't get much more experienced than Alex Ferguson, and he's got rid of some huge players over the years - Beckham, Stam, Keane etc. The manager must have absolute control in the dressing room, otherwise anarchy reigns. We all saw what happened last season with rumours of unrest and Wilson's apparent lack of authority.

Kerrouche is now at his eighth club in five years, which tells its own story. Yes, he scores goals, but at what cost to team spirit? Letting him go to Oxford may turn out to be a mistake, but nobody said Di Canio was perfect. However, shipping a problem player, if that's what Kerrouche is, to our local rivals could be a masterstroke. Their fanbase is already deeply divided over the move, so it could be very interesting to see how it pans out over the next month.

stfclondon wrote:

madterrier wrote: Me too. He is the best striker the club has, as his stats prove. Paolo has done a lot of brilliant things for the club, but this one confounds me. An experienced manager would resolve any issues and get Kerrouche scoring for us again. To transfer our best striker to the Pox is as baffling as it is annoying.

You don't get much more experienced than Alex Ferguson, and he's got rid of some huge players over the years - Beckham, Stam, Keane etc. The manager must have absolute control in the dressing room, otherwise anarchy reigns. We all saw what happened last season with rumours of unrest and Wilson's apparent lack of authority. Kerrouche is now at his eighth club in five years, which tells its own story. Yes, he scores goals, but at what cost to team spirit? Letting him go to Oxford may turn out to be a mistake, but nobody said Di Canio was perfect. However, shipping a problem player, if that's what Kerrouche is, to our local rivals could be a masterstroke. Their fanbase is already deeply divided over the move, so it could be very interesting to see how it pans out over the next month.

I like Kerrouche and feel he could still have a part to play but at the end of the day, if PDC won't pick him (rightly or wrongly) may as well get him off the wage bill! Given the research PDC claims to do I hope he's looked a who the Pox are playing over the next 4 weeks inorder to do us a few a favours...

What annoys me the most is kerrouche's attitude. The fans haven't rejected him even when he's rejected the opportunity to be a part of this set up. He seems to not realise that most players would have been hounded out of a club by now for his actions and he doesn't seem to wish to react positively. There seems to be some subliminal feeling between fans that he could be really useful and we'd all like him back onside

Great tactic.

Mehdi has a month at the Pox, so will never play for us for the remainder of the season. He will be required to spend time in quarantine after 1 month.

But, it would be a great insider for their Cup Final in March, and he can even spell the words 'STFC' and be able to inscript this on the pitch again.

stfclondon wrote:

madterrier wrote:
Me too. He is the best striker the club has, as his stats prove. Paolo has done a lot of brilliant things for the club, but this one confounds me. An experienced manager would resolve any issues and get Kerrouche scoring for us again. To transfer our best striker to the Pox is as baffling as it is annoying.

You don't get much more experienced than Alex Ferguson, and he's got rid of some huge players over the years - Beckham, Stam, Keane etc. The manager must have absolute control in the dressing room, otherwise anarchy reigns. We all saw what happened last season with rumours of unrest and Wilson's apparent lack of authority.

Kerrouche is now at his eighth club in five years, which tells its own story. Yes, he scores goals, but at what cost to team spirit? Letting him go to Oxford may turn out to be a mistake, but nobody said Di Canio was perfect. However, shipping a problem player, if that's what Kerrouche is, to our local rivals could be a masterstroke. Their fanbase is already deeply divided over the move, so it could be very interesting to see how it pans out over the next month.

excellent post, agree with every word.

You never know, maybe the whole thing is a plan hatched by PDC ... i.e. Pretend that there is some issue with Kerrouche, and make it well-known to everyone (when in fact there is no issue at all), and then, when everyone has bought into the story, loan him out to our rivals, who will be thinking they have a great deal, but in fact our man will be feeding inside info' back to us, and trying his hardest (very surreptitiously of course) to lose their games for them.

#conspiracy

Bert Head wrote:
This time he has got it wrong! In any employer/employee relationship there are issues and need to be managed.Bully tactics like this went out with the Tolpuddle Martyrs.! Sometimes one has to listen to both sides. Furthermore getting sent to the stands aint clever! I await the first fallout with the board when he will do a Fabio,

This is one of the worst post i,ve ever read.

I dont think fabio abandoned ship,he was made to walk the plank.

My mother always used to say there were three sides to an argument, his side, her side and the truth. So maybe we will never know what really has happened. I to like Kerrouche, and Clarke come to that (as players). There appears to be something about people who can score goals that makes them fall out with their managers and I would have thought Paolo would understand that more than most managers and be more forgiving if the "offender" showed signs of mending the error of their ways.

stfclondon wrote:

madterrier wrote:
Me too. He is the best striker the club has, as his stats prove. Paolo has done a lot of brilliant things for the club, but this one confounds me. An experienced manager would resolve any issues and get Kerrouche scoring for us again. To transfer our best striker to the Pox is as baffling as it is annoying.

You don't get much more experienced than Alex Ferguson, and he's got rid of some huge players over the years - Beckham, Stam, Keane etc. The manager must have absolute control in the dressing room, otherwise anarchy reigns. We all saw what happened last season with rumours of unrest and Wilson's apparent lack of authority.

Kerrouche is now at his eighth club in five years, which tells its own story. Yes, he scores goals, but at what cost to team spirit? Letting him go to Oxford may turn out to be a mistake, but nobody said Di Canio was perfect. However, shipping a problem player, if that's what Kerrouche is, to our local rivals could be a masterstroke. Their fanbase is already deeply divided over the move, so it could be very interesting to see how it pans out over the next month.

And the same Man Utd manager was also responsible for putting his arm around wayward players and getting more from them. He kept Keane for many years as well as eventually getting rid of him; he got en extra year out of Ronaldo when he was just about off; and he's calmed Rooney down. and then of course there was Cantona...

But I do agree with you about the manager having control of the dressing room. If we knew more specifics about the Kerrouche saga, rather than assumptions that he has 'a bad attitude' then maybe people, including me, would change their views. All I saw was a striker scoring goals. I prefer strikers to score goals, rather than just work hard.

I like them to to work hard and score goals,I have no idea what happened with kerrouche,but we had this last year when players did,nt seem to try enough,then we had austin who imo got a little to big for his boots,and this did,nt help us for sure,seems some of us would like di canio to go to poxford and kerrouche stay here, i dont need specifics,i trust our manager and board 100%,and results speak for themselves.

Bert Head wrote:
This time he has got it wrong! In any employer/employee relationship there are issues and need to be managed.Bully tactics like this went out with the Tolpuddle Martyrs.! Sometimes one has to listen to both sides. Furthermore getting sent to the stands aint clever! I await the first fallout with the board when he will do a Fabio,

He's not got it wrong and isn't bullying anyone. He's dropped a player from his team that he considers has a bad attitude. His team that have lost one game since MK was dropped. His team that will soon be top of the league. His team that have the best goal difference in the league. His team that will be in a cup final at Wembley next month. His team that play as a team on the pitch. His team that respect him, his ethics, his passion and his direction. There's no place for anyone in his team that doesn't meet his high standards.
How any "fan" can critisise PdC is beyond me - and your first name should be Dick.

TenerifeRed,

They've lost two games since MK was dropped:

Leicester 0-2 &
Torquay 0-1.

true, but I hadn't even included the fa cup which was excellent this year :)
Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Medhi and would have loved to see him fit in, I even whacked £20 on him @34's as the leagues top scorer early doors.
But anyway, the way things are looking this season I don't think PdC deserves to be critisised.