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Time will tell

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio Paolo Di Canio

PAOLO Di Canio has set his Swindon Town side the target of occupying a top-eight position by the beginning of October, by which time he expects his squad to be firing on all cylinders.

With five new faces arriving in the final 48 hours of the summer transfer window, and with several key players currently recovering from injuries, Di Canio does not yet have all his options available as he looks to mastermind a second successive promotion.

However, he feels that by the start of next month he will have all his resources at his disposal, and the Town boss wants the Robins to keep themselves within touching distance of the promotion picture until then.

“It will take another month because the players we’ve got in here in the friendly games didn’t make me enjoy Bayern Munich, Crystal Palace and Supermarine,” he said.

“They were under me 45 days - full immersion morning, afternoon - now we have four players who joined us five days ago and we have half-an-hour tactical.

“It’s my job but maybe it takes longer to release the different ideas in football that maybe they had until a few days ago. So the people have to be patient.

“When (Matt) Ritchie is back, Gary Roberts back, all the players back and the new players in 20 days’ time at the end of September, beginning of October - like last year - we will start to see the real potential.

“If we win Saturday we are maybe top three. We have to think like last year in this moment. We have to stay in the top eight in October and November.

“I don’t want to say play-offs, top eight like last year - same thinking, same idea. Seven points from the top top two, maybe two points inside the play-offs or two points from the play-offs and be there with 35 games to go would be good.

“Last year we anticipated this and this time I am sure we can do the same. But I want to have back Ritchie, Gary Roberts and all the five who after one month will understand what I want, and then we are going to have another season as protagonists - listen to me.”

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6:21am Fri 7 Sep 12

igiwigi says...

I said the JPT was a testring ground.
Now you can see the stategy!!!

Paulo has a good plan and that Is to be patient.
Obviously Jeremy Wray wants a return on the spending!!!
I said the JPT was a testring ground. Now you can see the stategy!!! Paulo has a good plan and that Is to be patient. Obviously Jeremy Wray wants a return on the spending!!! igiwigi
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6:22am Fri 7 Sep 12

california andy says...

Precisely - too many new guys into the side all at once. A bit like the Paint Trophy final last year. Need to add new players more slowly, I think.
Precisely - too many new guys into the side all at once. A bit like the Paint Trophy final last year. Need to add new players more slowly, I think. california andy
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6:45am Fri 7 Sep 12

Redhouse Red says...

Can we just play well and win tomorrow please.

And the past weeks nightmare behind us.
Can we just play well and win tomorrow please. And the past weeks nightmare behind us. Redhouse Red
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7:09am Fri 7 Sep 12

Lazaat says...

Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l Lazaat
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7:13am Fri 7 Sep 12

Lazaat says...

Sorry about that...win tomorrow and we are back in the mix, and the yellow scum can get back to concentrating on league 2!
Sorry about that...win tomorrow and we are back in the mix, and the yellow scum can get back to concentrating on league 2! Lazaat
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8:17am Fri 7 Sep 12

London Red says...

Exactly this year our record is P7 W4 D1 L2 - yet anyone would think it was 7 straight defeats!
.
That would mean that the end of the year it would be P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91
.
91 points is normally enough for the title if not at least promotion
.
Now I know it is unlikely we will en with that exact record - just pointing out our start has been pretty good so far - especially as we have beaten a main rival!!!!
.
Let's keep things in perspective!!!!
Exactly this year our record is P7 W4 D1 L2 - yet anyone would think it was 7 straight defeats! . That would mean that the end of the year it would be P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91 . 91 points is normally enough for the title if not at least promotion . Now I know it is unlikely we will en with that exact record - just pointing out our start has been pretty good so far - especially as we have beaten a main rival!!!! . Let's keep things in perspective!!!! London Red
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8:46am Fri 7 Sep 12

old town robin says...

London Red wrote:
Exactly this year our record is P7 W4 D1 L2 - yet anyone would think it was 7 straight defeats!
.
That would mean that the end of the year it would be P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91
.
91 points is normally enough for the title if not at least promotion
.
Now I know it is unlikely we will en with that exact record - just pointing out our start has been pretty good so far - especially as we have beaten a main rival!!!!
.
Let's keep things in perspective!!!!
Haven't seen anything on Sky, but I would have thought Paolo would have been a firm favorite for manager of the month for August with 4 wins and a draw. maybe the FA don't do that for August. I know it's a poison challis, probably why we lost the first two in September, lol.

Think this article is quite good and outlines a plan of how he thinks we will progress. law of averages say, not all the new signing will be a hit, but if 9 from 12 make the grade, 75% is not a bad ratio. By the end of September we should have a clearer picture which ones have a future with STFC.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Exactly this year our record is P7 W4 D1 L2 - yet anyone would think it was 7 straight defeats! . That would mean that the end of the year it would be P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91 . 91 points is normally enough for the title if not at least promotion . Now I know it is unlikely we will en with that exact record - just pointing out our start has been pretty good so far - especially as we have beaten a main rival!!!! . Let's keep things in perspective!!!![/p][/quote]Haven't seen anything on Sky, but I would have thought Paolo would have been a firm favorite for manager of the month for August with 4 wins and a draw. maybe the FA don't do that for August. I know it's a poison challis, probably why we lost the first two in September, lol. Think this article is quite good and outlines a plan of how he thinks we will progress. law of averages say, not all the new signing will be a hit, but if 9 from 12 make the grade, 75% is not a bad ratio. By the end of September we should have a clearer picture which ones have a future with STFC. old town robin
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9:02am Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Personally I have to disagree on the JPT -it's good to keep going as it gives you a chance to play the fringe players and to get fitness levels up to scratch. I understand that it is not a priority over the league but we can't sit back and say "Good job that's over!"...Not good at all to be out already in my book.
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Guess our problem Tuesday was that they were all totally new to STFC and, although I hate to say it, Poxford are winning a few this season and as for hoof ball, there will be plenty of that in league 1 this season...even Stoke resorted to it....we HAVE to deal with it.
..
Getting the front two of Williams and Collins back together is important as you can see these two becoming the next Mayes and Rowlands partnership.
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You have to believe we have too much for them tomorrow BUT!..
..
Remember Hereford last season!?..they couldn't fill their bench and they had their 45yr old coach playing in goal as they had no first teasers...then the 0-0 followed....we can't assume anything.
--
We've got a great run of home fixtures in one sense as they're all in poor form but it's critical we start to pick up points in the away games as losing becomes a habit if you're not too careful. I'm sure we'll be ok on the road but 4 points from the next 3 away games minimum please!
--
At home: Win 18 Draw 4 Lose 1 = 58pts
- 90pts to finish top 2?..31pts required from the remaining 21 games...win every other game.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Personally I have to disagree on the JPT -it's good to keep going as it gives you a chance to play the fringe players and to get fitness levels up to scratch. I understand that it is not a priority over the league but we can't sit back and say "Good job that's over!"...Not good at all to be out already in my book. -- Guess our problem Tuesday was that they were all totally new to STFC and, although I hate to say it, Poxford are winning a few this season and as for hoof ball, there will be plenty of that in league 1 this season...even Stoke resorted to it....we HAVE to deal with it. .. Getting the front two of Williams and Collins back together is important as you can see these two becoming the next Mayes and Rowlands partnership. -- You have to believe we have too much for them tomorrow BUT!.. .. Remember Hereford last season!?..they couldn't fill their bench and they had their 45yr old coach playing in goal as they had no first teasers...then the 0-0 followed....we can't assume anything. -- We've got a great run of home fixtures in one sense as they're all in poor form but it's critical we start to pick up points in the away games as losing becomes a habit if you're not too careful. I'm sure we'll be ok on the road but 4 points from the next 3 away games minimum please! -- At home: Win 18 Draw 4 Lose 1 = 58pts - 90pts to finish top 2?..31pts required from the remaining 21 games...win every other game. SAPFanSTFC
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9:07am Fri 7 Sep 12

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Wednesday night is now forgotten.

Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
COYR'ds
Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds TheDukeOfBanbury
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9:25am Fri 7 Sep 12

Rebel_phish says...

We have to stay in the hunt thoughout the season, we only need to finish top by the end of April.

I don't think we will be like Charlton were last season, dominating the top spot virtually from start to finish, but more like Reading, coming on strong at the end.
We have to stay in the hunt thoughout the season, we only need to finish top by the end of April. I don't think we will be like Charlton were last season, dominating the top spot virtually from start to finish, but more like Reading, coming on strong at the end. Rebel_phish
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9:26am Fri 7 Sep 12

the don69 says...

London Red wrote:
Exactly this year our record is P7 W4 D1 L2 - yet anyone would think it was 7 straight defeats!
.
That would mean that the end of the year it would be P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91
.
91 points is normally enough for the title if not at least promotion
.
Now I know it is unlikely we will en with that exact record - just pointing out our start has been pretty good so far - especially as we have beaten a main rival!!!!
.
Let's keep things in perspective!!!!
We had enough of your pointless stats LR in our relegation,which you got totally wrong!if you wanna make predictions stick to the predictions league!to turn P7 W4 D1 L2 INTO P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91 is nothing short of Laughable!!!!!!!!!!!
!!deal in reality not fantasy!!!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Exactly this year our record is P7 W4 D1 L2 - yet anyone would think it was 7 straight defeats! . That would mean that the end of the year it would be P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91 . 91 points is normally enough for the title if not at least promotion . Now I know it is unlikely we will en with that exact record - just pointing out our start has been pretty good so far - especially as we have beaten a main rival!!!! . Let's keep things in perspective!!!![/p][/quote]We had enough of your pointless stats LR in our relegation,which you got totally wrong!if you wanna make predictions stick to the predictions league!to turn P7 W4 D1 L2 INTO P46 W26 D13 L7 PTS 91 is nothing short of Laughable!!!!!!!!!!! !!deal in reality not fantasy!!! the don69
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9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Wednesday night is now forgotten.

Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
COYR'ds
I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-)
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds[/p][/quote]I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-) SAPFanSTFC
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10:35am Fri 7 Sep 12

mustard red says...

LR. Agree about perspectives. I did exactly the same calculation after Wednesday's loss and am not worried about our progress.

At the start of the season we couldn't have expected more than this with so many new faces joining. Paolo is right, let's see where we are by October, for a better reflection of how we are progressing in our main priority this season - promotion from this league.

Message to SapFan - any chance you can encourage Sam to open up the Predictions League posts earlier than the day before games?
LR. Agree about perspectives. I did exactly the same calculation after Wednesday's loss and am not worried about our progress. At the start of the season we couldn't have expected more than this with so many new faces joining. Paolo is right, let's see where we are by October, for a better reflection of how we are progressing in our main priority this season - promotion from this league. Message to SapFan - any chance you can encourage Sam to open up the Predictions League posts earlier than the day before games? mustard red
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10:42am Fri 7 Sep 12

stfcknowitall says...

Last season we got used to the luxury of a defeat being as rare as a healthy doner kebab!

Take away the defeat to the yellow scum in the jpt and we have only lost a game against preston we was lost in the first 10 minutes.

Every team has an off day like the one against preston and even though we did get heavily beat there in the end we all know that wasn't the swindon town team we know. Maybe it was down to a hangover from the Stoke game or maybe due to the fact that we gifted them 2 goals in 10 minutes which practically ended the game as a contest. I dont know...all I do know is that I have my full trust and faith in Paolo and his team to gain promotion this year!

Remember last season after 4 straight defeats in the league? Everything seemed doomed and how did it end up?..oh yes we only went and won the league!!..a win tomorrow against the O's and we can all breath again!!

WE ARE PAOLO'S RED AND WHITE ARMY!!
Last season we got used to the luxury of a defeat being as rare as a healthy doner kebab! Take away the defeat to the yellow scum in the jpt and we have only lost a game against preston we was lost in the first 10 minutes. Every team has an off day like the one against preston and even though we did get heavily beat there in the end we all know that wasn't the swindon town team we know. Maybe it was down to a hangover from the Stoke game or maybe due to the fact that we gifted them 2 goals in 10 minutes which practically ended the game as a contest. I dont know...all I do know is that I have my full trust and faith in Paolo and his team to gain promotion this year! Remember last season after 4 straight defeats in the league? Everything seemed doomed and how did it end up?..oh yes we only went and won the league!!..a win tomorrow against the O's and we can all breath again!! WE ARE PAOLO'S RED AND WHITE ARMY!! stfcknowitall
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10:47am Fri 7 Sep 12

ciclosporindorset says...

I find the defeats this week have totally submerged me in negative thinking and to get my head out of the ground - I do exactly what LR did and PDC did. That is ask myself how are we doing so far - and answer is - not bad actually. PdC is adopting the same thinking only future & long term - set realistic expectations and milestones at a realistic level - then we may achieve them. Too much pressure comes from expecting to be top in October and stay there. Also he is reflecting well on the defeat at Oxford. The players coming in have nowhere near the fitness of the original squad nor I expect has PdC actually watched all them in competition. Its a very measured approach from an incalculable man!
I find the defeats this week have totally submerged me in negative thinking and to get my head out of the ground - I do exactly what LR did and PDC did. That is ask myself how are we doing so far - and answer is - not bad actually. PdC is adopting the same thinking only future & long term - set realistic expectations and milestones at a realistic level - then we may achieve them. Too much pressure comes from expecting to be top in October and stay there. Also he is reflecting well on the defeat at Oxford. The players coming in have nowhere near the fitness of the original squad nor I expect has PdC actually watched all them in competition. Its a very measured approach from an incalculable man! ciclosporindorset
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10:58am Fri 7 Sep 12

Wilesy says...

Not sure on the workings there LR but 2 losses in 7 then just 5 in the next 39?

I've also done some calculations and as Predictions League Champione 2011-2012 this counts -

Based on league stats to date we will win every home league game without conceding a goal. Great!

BUT....

We will also not win an away league game all season. Oh no!

Sorry a bit tongue in cheek there :-)
Not sure on the workings there LR but 2 losses in 7 then just 5 in the next 39? I've also done some calculations and as Predictions League Champione 2011-2012 this counts - Based on league stats to date we will win every home league game without conceding a goal. Great! BUT.... We will also not win an away league game all season. Oh no! Sorry a bit tongue in cheek there :-) Wilesy
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11:00am Fri 7 Sep 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

We'll be top by the end of October. Don't worry folks.

SAPF I take your point about the JPT but I think you'll find we have a few more rounds in Capital One Cup left in us. Lucky home draws against teams that rest players. My god man we could even win it!

Can't make tomorrow, right royal diary mismanagement but the sun is out, people have even calmed down on here and WE ARE WINNING THE LEAGUE.

COYR

Back to back to back promotions coming.
We'll be top by the end of October. Don't worry folks. SAPF I take your point about the JPT but I think you'll find we have a few more rounds in Capital One Cup left in us. Lucky home draws against teams that rest players. My god man we could even win it! Can't make tomorrow, right royal diary mismanagement but the sun is out, people have even calmed down on here and WE ARE WINNING THE LEAGUE. COYR Back to back to back promotions coming. dreamofacleansheet2
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11:19am Fri 7 Sep 12

Malkym says...

says...
9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Wednesday night is now forgotten.

Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
COYR'ds
I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-)

Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality.

Have a good day old bean!
says... 9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12 TheDukeOfBanbury wrote: Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-) Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality. Have a good day old bean! Malkym
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11:29am Fri 7 Sep 12

Another view says...

Continuing on the positive theme, it's a great time to live in Swindon!

The sun is shining every day.
The old college finally disappeared to allow more development in the centre.
The Speedway Robins are nearly top of the league.
Honda are expanding, making more jobs...

And it's all hugs & kisses with Paolo and Wes - and hopefully Flint,
and the experiment on Wednesday night will have helped the new guys settle in. It's early days, but we're definitely off to a better start than last season.

(If we get another thunderstorm during tomorrow's game then it's not my fault!!)
Continuing on the positive theme, it's a great time to live in Swindon! The sun is shining every day. The old college finally disappeared to allow more development in the centre. The Speedway Robins are nearly top of the league. Honda are expanding, making more jobs... And it's all hugs & kisses with Paolo and Wes - and hopefully Flint, and the experiment on Wednesday night will have helped the new guys settle in. It's early days, but we're definitely off to a better start than last season. (If we get another thunderstorm during tomorrow's game then it's not my fault!!) Another view
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11:43am Fri 7 Sep 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Another view. Here here!

And as I keep saying post Wednesday night, it's just Paolo's way of geeing Flint up for the season ahead and this Saturday in particular. Expect him to start.....
Another view. Here here! And as I keep saying post Wednesday night, it's just Paolo's way of geeing Flint up for the season ahead and this Saturday in particular. Expect him to start..... dreamofacleansheet2
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12:33pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Malkym says...

I think you're right Dreams -reverse psycology I reckon.
I think you're right Dreams -reverse psycology I reckon. Malkym
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1:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

RamsburyRed says...

Oh dear LR your maths are awful, if you project those results up to 46 games it is actually W26 D7 L13.
*
Still, that is 85pts and I agree with you overall, the start is ok. I wouldn't worry too much about where we are in October either, at Christmas the table will start to take shape.
Oh dear LR your maths are awful, if you project those results up to 46 games it is actually W26 D7 L13. * Still, that is 85pts and I agree with you overall, the start is ok. I wouldn't worry too much about where we are in October either, at Christmas the table will start to take shape. RamsburyRed
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1:52pm Fri 7 Sep 12

LionelHutz says...

Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season.

There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season. There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant. LionelHutz
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2:12pm Fri 7 Sep 12

topsecret says...

Malkym wrote:
says...
9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Wednesday night is now forgotten.

Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
COYR'ds
I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-)

Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality.

Have a good day old bean!
you've got a mate ? thats almost as believable as you being a swindon fan
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: says... 9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12 TheDukeOfBanbury wrote: Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-) Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality. Have a good day old bean![/p][/quote]you've got a mate ? thats almost as believable as you being a swindon fan topsecret
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2:17pm Fri 7 Sep 12

newburymike says...

Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller?
Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller? newburymike
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2:18pm Fri 7 Sep 12

newburymike says...

Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller?
Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller? newburymike
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2:43pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Malkym says...

topsecret wrote:
Malkym wrote:
says...
9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Wednesday night is now forgotten.

Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
COYR'ds
I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-)

Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality.

Have a good day old bean!
you've got a mate ? thats almost as believable as you being a swindon fan
hiya bestest Troll love you x
[quote][p][bold]topsecret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: says... 9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12 TheDukeOfBanbury wrote: Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-) Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality. Have a good day old bean![/p][/quote]you've got a mate ? thats almost as believable as you being a swindon fan[/p][/quote]hiya bestest Troll love you x Malkym
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2:51pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Malkym says...

LionelHutz wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season.

There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.
IMO Err yes it is a p!ss pot cup, new wembley is a dump, and losing to Oxford is no different to losing to anybody a loss is a loss. You're dead right though the JPT is certainly irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season. There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]IMO Err yes it is a p!ss pot cup, new wembley is a dump, and losing to Oxford is no different to losing to anybody a loss is a loss. You're dead right though the JPT is certainly irrelevant. Malkym
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2:55pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Malkym says...

newburymike wrote:
Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller?
Not if you expand them they don't lol!
[quote][p][bold]newburymike[/bold] wrote: Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller?[/p][/quote]Not if you expand them they don't lol! Malkym
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3:01pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SeanG92 says...

I think most funs expected it to take time for the team to gel and really show what they are capable off. The same as it did last season. Definatly no need to worry just now, I know that just after both losses i the last 2 games emotions run high and things often seem a lot worse than they are. In reflection, although its never nice to lose im sure we can all understand the reasons why we lost and see that in the long term the problems should be iron out.
I think most funs expected it to take time for the team to gel and really show what they are capable off. The same as it did last season. Definatly no need to worry just now, I know that just after both losses i the last 2 games emotions run high and things often seem a lot worse than they are. In reflection, although its never nice to lose im sure we can all understand the reasons why we lost and see that in the long term the problems should be iron out. SeanG92
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3:09pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

mustard red wrote:
LR. Agree about perspectives. I did exactly the same calculation after Wednesday's loss and am not worried about our progress.

At the start of the season we couldn't have expected more than this with so many new faces joining. Paolo is right, let's see where we are by October, for a better reflection of how we are progressing in our main priority this season - promotion from this league.

Message to SapFan - any chance you can encourage Sam to open up the Predictions League posts earlier than the day before games?
Hi there Mustard....sorry - my fault this week.
[quote][p][bold]mustard red[/bold] wrote: LR. Agree about perspectives. I did exactly the same calculation after Wednesday's loss and am not worried about our progress. At the start of the season we couldn't have expected more than this with so many new faces joining. Paolo is right, let's see where we are by October, for a better reflection of how we are progressing in our main priority this season - promotion from this league. Message to SapFan - any chance you can encourage Sam to open up the Predictions League posts earlier than the day before games?[/p][/quote]Hi there Mustard....sorry - my fault this week. SAPFanSTFC
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3:16pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

Malkym wrote:
says...
9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Wednesday night is now forgotten.

Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
COYR'ds
I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-)

Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality.

Have a good day old bean!
So sad, so sad indeed to need to keep bringing it up - well from now on Jock you can whistle in the wind as I'm not going to bother responding to your childish posts....have you REALLY nothing better to do!?
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Tatty bye you sad old whinging baiting scrounger.
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He who said "Im not wasting my money going to the CG to watch that rubbish - but then 2 weeks later posted - Got given a freebie COYRs....two faced and always **** at others is not a characteristic that I'm bothering with in future - happily I'm going with my whole family tomorrow and knowing that I've put MY money into STFC not other's!
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Oh and P.S. Stay AWAY from me & my children tomorrow!!
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: says... 9:39am Fri 7 Sep 12 TheDukeOfBanbury wrote: Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds I'm still sulking!!...well until kick-off tomorrow! :-) Hey Old buddy - so much for your predicted backlash eh? Ah well onwards and upwards to quote the mighty Grim! Hey guess what I'm on a freebie tomorrow -got mates season ticket - how good is that? Know you'll be pleased for me because you always go to great pains to stress how lucky I am to get freebies in hospiltality. Have a good day old bean![/p][/quote]So sad, so sad indeed to need to keep bringing it up - well from now on Jock you can whistle in the wind as I'm not going to bother responding to your childish posts....have you REALLY nothing better to do!? ... Tatty bye you sad old whinging baiting scrounger. -- He who said "Im not wasting my money going to the CG to watch that rubbish - but then 2 weeks later posted - Got given a freebie COYRs....two faced and always **** at others is not a characteristic that I'm bothering with in future - happily I'm going with my whole family tomorrow and knowing that I've put MY money into STFC not other's! ... Oh and P.S. Stay AWAY from me & my children tomorrow!! SAPFanSTFC
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3:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

LionelHutz wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season.

There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.
Lazaat doesn't annoy me as he's a true fan but like you I don't agree with the sentiment.
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JPT always splits the true fans but sadly far more weight is added by the hangers on...like you it hurt twice on Wednesday...a day out at Wembley - regardless of expense - is a memory to be treasured...I mean come on!!..we have been twice to the new Wembley and 3 times to the Old (with differing results) and ALL of them will stay with me for life....imagine being a Bradford or Brentford or even a W.B.A. fan compared to us!?
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Despite all out trials and tribulations we ARE STFC!!!...and we can all be REALLY proud of our history and recent history.....I know we can be proud of our future!
[quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season. There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Lazaat doesn't annoy me as he's a true fan but like you I don't agree with the sentiment. -- JPT always splits the true fans but sadly far more weight is added by the hangers on...like you it hurt twice on Wednesday...a day out at Wembley - regardless of expense - is a memory to be treasured...I mean come on!!..we have been twice to the new Wembley and 3 times to the Old (with differing results) and ALL of them will stay with me for life....imagine being a Bradford or Brentford or even a W.B.A. fan compared to us!? .. Despite all out trials and tribulations we ARE STFC!!!...and we can all be REALLY proud of our history and recent history.....I know we can be proud of our future! SAPFanSTFC
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3:23pm Fri 7 Sep 12

newburymike says...

Malkym wrote:
newburymike wrote:
Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller?
Not if you expand them they don't lol!
I have expanded them as usual but seems a lot more text to page than normal as the font is smaller. I guess it is something I have done on my phone. Cheers anyway
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]newburymike[/bold] wrote: Random question, but is it just on my iPhone that the text on the reports has got smaller?[/p][/quote]Not if you expand them they don't lol![/p][/quote]I have expanded them as usual but seems a lot more text to page than normal as the font is smaller. I guess it is something I have done on my phone. Cheers anyway newburymike
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3:26pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season.

There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.
Lazaat doesn't annoy me as he's a true fan but like you I don't agree with the sentiment.
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JPT always splits the true fans but sadly far more weight is added by the hangers on...like you it hurt twice on Wednesday...a day out at Wembley - regardless of expense - is a memory to be treasured...I mean come on!!..we have been twice to the new Wembley and 3 times to the Old (with differing results) and ALL of them will stay with me for life....imagine being a Bradford or Brentford or even a W.B.A. fan compared to us!?
..
Despite all out trials and tribulations we ARE STFC!!!...and we can all be REALLY proud of our history and recent history.....I know we can be proud of our future!
....oops - sorry the 69 won't stay with me for life as I was only 4 and didn't go - but all the others will :-)
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Still got the manufactured bits on video though!!...even if I've no video recorder to play it on!
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I can now guarantee that I can predict the actual score of the Swindon v L. Orient game before it starts tomorrow!!
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season. There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Lazaat doesn't annoy me as he's a true fan but like you I don't agree with the sentiment. -- JPT always splits the true fans but sadly far more weight is added by the hangers on...like you it hurt twice on Wednesday...a day out at Wembley - regardless of expense - is a memory to be treasured...I mean come on!!..we have been twice to the new Wembley and 3 times to the Old (with differing results) and ALL of them will stay with me for life....imagine being a Bradford or Brentford or even a W.B.A. fan compared to us!? .. Despite all out trials and tribulations we ARE STFC!!!...and we can all be REALLY proud of our history and recent history.....I know we can be proud of our future![/p][/quote]....oops - sorry the 69 won't stay with me for life as I was only 4 and didn't go - but all the others will :-) -- Still got the manufactured bits on video though!!...even if I've no video recorder to play it on! -- I can now guarantee that I can predict the actual score of the Swindon v L. Orient game before it starts tomorrow!! SAPFanSTFC
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5:04pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SeanG92 says...

You can tell things have settled down with the lack of comments on here :P

Anyone else uber-exited for tomorrow? :)
You can tell things have settled down with the lack of comments on here :P Anyone else uber-exited for tomorrow? :) SeanG92
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5:11pm Fri 7 Sep 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds
WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS NOW FORGOTTEN....Win tomorrow and all back to normal.
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I HOPE YOUR HAVING THE CRACK.
That what happened on wednesday night lpseing 2 the vermin down the road STILL MAKES ME FEEL SICK AND VERY VERY GUTTED....
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: Wednesday night is now forgotten. Win tomorrow and all back to normal. COYR'ds[/p][/quote]WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS NOW FORGOTTEN....Win tomorrow and all back to normal. . I HOPE YOUR HAVING THE CRACK. That what happened on wednesday night lpseing 2 the vermin down the road STILL MAKES ME FEEL SICK AND VERY VERY GUTTED.... DarrenSTFCRomain
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5:30pm Fri 7 Sep 12

London Red says...

Ramsbury - totally right put the D and L round the wrong way - but as you saw the point is still the same we are doing alright at the moment despite not firing on all cylinders
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Don - I know you are having a hissy fit at the moment and want to try and slate every post - but it WAS NOT A PREDICTION - I know that is probably be too much for your brain to handle but you can give it a try!
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It was simply an extrapolation - I even put the line in about its unlikely to happen to stop pointless remarks like yours!
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OK as Ramsbury has said I added 7 extra points on by swapping the D and L around but as said above the point remains the same
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We have won over 50% of our games and that is likely to be 75% tomorrow - yet its all doom and gloom and calling for PdC's head etc - that is what is laughable!
Ramsbury - totally right put the D and L round the wrong way - but as you saw the point is still the same we are doing alright at the moment despite not firing on all cylinders . Don - I know you are having a hissy fit at the moment and want to try and slate every post - but it WAS NOT A PREDICTION - I know that is probably be too much for your brain to handle but you can give it a try! . It was simply an extrapolation - I even put the line in about its unlikely to happen to stop pointless remarks like yours! . OK as Ramsbury has said I added 7 extra points on by swapping the D and L around but as said above the point remains the same . We have won over 50% of our games and that is likely to be 75% tomorrow - yet its all doom and gloom and calling for PdC's head etc - that is what is laughable! London Red
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5:50pm Fri 7 Sep 12

jayden says...

More people falling out on here the last 2 days than PDC with the players
More people falling out on here the last 2 days than PDC with the players jayden
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5:53pm Fri 7 Sep 12

smirg kcab says...

Willow is going to have a hay day against cuthbert if he plays.
Onwards and upwards
Buuuuzzzzzziiiiiiinn
nnnngggggg
Willow is going to have a hay day against cuthbert if he plays. Onwards and upwards Buuuuzzzzzziiiiiiinn nnnngggggg smirg kcab
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6:07pm Fri 7 Sep 12

LeGod says...

Another game tomorrow we were all upset losing to that scum wednesday i really do hate their fans - walked into a pub with about 11 Pox fans in it and some old guy must have been in his 60's came up to us and shouted right in my face ' we will beat you C**** tonight.
Lets face it that was their biggest game of the season and will be their biggest gate as for us we move on with the Paolo plan for this season, Yes we were disappointing as a team but it wasnt a league game and with the new players i suppose it was good to give them a game as L1 is more important.
Oxford were a really poor side just playing a hoof up the pitch but we will learn from losing to garbage like that and i'd rather have 3 points tomorrow than another JPT game.
Oxford will explode this season as they always do and i'm sure we will be celebrating again come May whereas the Yellow scum will be sick that their team will have failed to do anything again.
Another game tomorrow we were all upset losing to that scum wednesday i really do hate their fans - walked into a pub with about 11 Pox fans in it and some old guy must have been in his 60's came up to us and shouted right in my face ' we will beat you C**** tonight. Lets face it that was their biggest game of the season and will be their biggest gate as for us we move on with the Paolo plan for this season, Yes we were disappointing as a team but it wasnt a league game and with the new players i suppose it was good to give them a game as L1 is more important. Oxford were a really poor side just playing a hoof up the pitch but we will learn from losing to garbage like that and i'd rather have 3 points tomorrow than another JPT game. Oxford will explode this season as they always do and i'm sure we will be celebrating again come May whereas the Yellow scum will be sick that their team will have failed to do anything again. LeGod
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6:38pm Fri 7 Sep 12

avo says...

LeGod - did you smack the yellow inbred?
LeGod - did you smack the yellow inbred? avo
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6:43pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Davethered says...

forget the jpt this year we're going for the league cup
forget the jpt this year we're going for the league cup Davethered
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7:27pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Rogersforengland says...

Can we get back to what Paolo said 'it will take time for these players' so why on earth did he put 4 debuts on against Oxford, why not give last seasons players a run out to make amends as they clearly will not get much of a look in this year. Any game against Oxford is important. In Paolo i still trust so long as he stops slagging players off
Can we get back to what Paolo said 'it will take time for these players' so why on earth did he put 4 debuts on against Oxford, why not give last seasons players a run out to make amends as they clearly will not get much of a look in this year. Any game against Oxford is important. In Paolo i still trust so long as he stops slagging players off Rogersforengland
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7:49pm Fri 7 Sep 12

We are PANTS says...

On a positive not, looks like it could be a decent crowd tomorrow!! Going by the online ticketing it might be as many as 10,000..

Good stuff!!! COYR'sssssssssssss
On a positive not, looks like it could be a decent crowd tomorrow!! Going by the online ticketing it might be as many as 10,000.. Good stuff!!! COYR'sssssssssssss We are PANTS
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8:19pm Fri 7 Sep 12

the wizard says...

London Red wrote:
Ramsbury - totally right put the D and L round the wrong way - but as you saw the point is still the same we are doing alright at the moment despite not firing on all cylinders
.
Don - I know you are having a hissy fit at the moment and want to try and slate every post - but it WAS NOT A PREDICTION - I know that is probably be too much for your brain to handle but you can give it a try!
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It was simply an extrapolation - I even put the line in about its unlikely to happen to stop pointless remarks like yours!
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OK as Ramsbury has said I added 7 extra points on by swapping the D and L around but as said above the point remains the same
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We have won over 50% of our games and that is likely to be 75% tomorrow - yet its all doom and gloom and calling for PdC's head etc - that is what is laughable!
LR,

I don't think anybody has asked for PDC's head. They may have asked him to wind it in a bit, and they may have stated poor man management skills, but I can't actually pinpoint somebody asking him directly to leave.

Clearly some of his behaviour is questionable, even Pox fans local to me are saying he was out of order naming a player in the manner he belittled Flint.
Yes he has his methods, and yes they may be different, we all know that, but it doesn't always make those methods and ways right, even if results tend to give that impression. We clearly had a very good team last season, and the indication is another for this, but nothing is cut and dried, as we still have to play another 43 games to stake our claim for promotion.
We all know and most accept one day he will leave, and hopefully he will leave us as a better club, and him a better manager, but as with all learning their trade, you have to listen to those around you when you get it wrong, so next time you get it right, and he needs to learn that, or he will continue as he is, a manager of a lower league club.
Wednesday he said one thing and did another, No Charity, and then gave it, no denying it, his choice nobody else involved, he got it wrong, and the Pox yet again, one good chance and one goal, they won, we lost, so why blame Flint ? easy prey who isn't going to answer back.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Ramsbury - totally right put the D and L round the wrong way - but as you saw the point is still the same we are doing alright at the moment despite not firing on all cylinders . Don - I know you are having a hissy fit at the moment and want to try and slate every post - but it WAS NOT A PREDICTION - I know that is probably be too much for your brain to handle but you can give it a try! . It was simply an extrapolation - I even put the line in about its unlikely to happen to stop pointless remarks like yours! . OK as Ramsbury has said I added 7 extra points on by swapping the D and L around but as said above the point remains the same . We have won over 50% of our games and that is likely to be 75% tomorrow - yet its all doom and gloom and calling for PdC's head etc - that is what is laughable![/p][/quote]LR, I don't think anybody has asked for PDC's head. They may have asked him to wind it in a bit, and they may have stated poor man management skills, but I can't actually pinpoint somebody asking him directly to leave. Clearly some of his behaviour is questionable, even Pox fans local to me are saying he was out of order naming a player in the manner he belittled Flint. Yes he has his methods, and yes they may be different, we all know that, but it doesn't always make those methods and ways right, even if results tend to give that impression. We clearly had a very good team last season, and the indication is another for this, but nothing is cut and dried, as we still have to play another 43 games to stake our claim for promotion. We all know and most accept one day he will leave, and hopefully he will leave us as a better club, and him a better manager, but as with all learning their trade, you have to listen to those around you when you get it wrong, so next time you get it right, and he needs to learn that, or he will continue as he is, a manager of a lower league club. Wednesday he said one thing and did another, No Charity, and then gave it, no denying it, his choice nobody else involved, he got it wrong, and the Pox yet again, one good chance and one goal, they won, we lost, so why blame Flint ? easy prey who isn't going to answer back. the wizard
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10:39pm Fri 7 Sep 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

We are PANTS wrote:
On a positive not, looks like it could be a decent crowd tomorrow!! Going by the online ticketing it might be as many as 10,000.. Good stuff!!! COYR'sssssssssssss
9113
[quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: On a positive not, looks like it could be a decent crowd tomorrow!! Going by the online ticketing it might be as many as 10,000.. Good stuff!!! COYR'sssssssssssss[/p][/quote]9113 DarrenSTFCRomain
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10:43pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
We are PANTS wrote:
On a positive not, looks like it could be a decent crowd tomorrow!! Going by the online ticketing it might be as many as 10,000.. Good stuff!!! COYR'sssssssssssss
9113
Now 8,567!
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: On a positive not, looks like it could be a decent crowd tomorrow!! Going by the online ticketing it might be as many as 10,000.. Good stuff!!! COYR'sssssssssssss[/p][/quote]9113[/p][/quote]Now 8,567! SAPFanSTFC
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10:55pm Fri 7 Sep 12

London Red says...

The anti PdC brigad have certainly been calling for his head again!

I also take it all those criticising PdC over his Flint "witch hunt" have actually listened to the interview then? (Or not!)
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As if you had you/they would realise that it was not actually a witch hunt at all and in fact he praises Flint a lot in it say what a good professional he is
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He is basically saying he is young and needs to improve if he is going to be a top player - which is true!
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He then explains why he thinks Flint was at fault too - he says he should have dropped in behind but instead caused the collision - hardly scaving criticism!
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He also mentions about the "you must clean your dirty clothes in the dressing room" complaints but he says he doesn't agree
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He obviously thinks it will improve the players - RDV is certainly a better player and has had it before!
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I don't care what Pox fans or anyone else thinks - I am loving being a town fan right now
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We play great football, have a fantastic record, signing players we could only dream of recently and are clearly on the up
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The reason the Pox etc try and poke fun is jealousy - simple as that!
The anti PdC brigad have certainly been calling for his head again! I also take it all those criticising PdC over his Flint "witch hunt" have actually listened to the interview then? (Or not!) . As if you had you/they would realise that it was not actually a witch hunt at all and in fact he praises Flint a lot in it say what a good professional he is . He is basically saying he is young and needs to improve if he is going to be a top player - which is true! . He then explains why he thinks Flint was at fault too - he says he should have dropped in behind but instead caused the collision - hardly scaving criticism! . He also mentions about the "you must clean your dirty clothes in the dressing room" complaints but he says he doesn't agree . He obviously thinks it will improve the players - RDV is certainly a better player and has had it before! . I don't care what Pox fans or anyone else thinks - I am loving being a town fan right now . We play great football, have a fantastic record, signing players we could only dream of recently and are clearly on the up . The reason the Pox etc try and poke fun is jealousy - simple as that! London Red
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11:13pm Fri 7 Sep 12

the wizard says...

Who called it a "witch hunt", only you so far.

As goes the criticism/diagnosis, yes I listened to the interview several times, and he plays Flint up as well as putting him down. No mention of Macca who was far from good all game, why not?

Don't forget PDC's record as a player, committed yes, professional always ? No. Did he not sit down on the pitch and demand to be subbed because of a turned down penalty claim, absent from away games, a few fall-outs with team mates, far from the perfection he demands from his players yet hardly the soul of discretion then or now, seems that he also has a limit, the next tantrum is possibly on the simmer right now awaiting its chance to flourish into full bloom tomorrow. As goes poking fun, the Pox are not alone, not by a very long way. Seems he is an easy target just now for anyone, shame because I thought he was better than that. He made a rod for his own back earlier this week, with his Charity item, and as you proclaimed last week the media love him for his out bursts so the Beeb gave him his own column.
Flawed genius ? quite probably, as perfect as he proclaims ?, no far from it.
Does he have what it takes this season, I hope so, but time will reveal that answer. Do I want him to leave ?, categorically NO, but, he will decide when he has had enough, and at that point, he will be gone, because that is his temperament and ego.
Who called it a "witch hunt", only you so far. As goes the criticism/diagnosis, yes I listened to the interview several times, and he plays Flint up as well as putting him down. No mention of Macca who was far from good all game, why not? Don't forget PDC's record as a player, committed yes, professional always ? No. Did he not sit down on the pitch and demand to be subbed because of a turned down penalty claim, absent from away games, a few fall-outs with team mates, far from the perfection he demands from his players yet hardly the soul of discretion then or now, seems that he also has a limit, the next tantrum is possibly on the simmer right now awaiting its chance to flourish into full bloom tomorrow. As goes poking fun, the Pox are not alone, not by a very long way. Seems he is an easy target just now for anyone, shame because I thought he was better than that. He made a rod for his own back earlier this week, with his Charity item, and as you proclaimed last week the media love him for his out bursts so the Beeb gave him his own column. Flawed genius ? quite probably, as perfect as he proclaims ?, no far from it. Does he have what it takes this season, I hope so, but time will reveal that answer. Do I want him to leave ?, categorically NO, but, he will decide when he has had enough, and at that point, he will be gone, because that is his temperament and ego. the wizard
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11:31pm Fri 7 Sep 12

red white says...

We are live on Al Jazeera tomorrow 3pm.

The only sat live game.

Yoooou Reds!
We are live on Al Jazeera tomorrow 3pm. The only sat live game. Yoooou Reds! red white
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11:31pm Fri 7 Sep 12

the wizard says...

By the way LR, we struggled against a ten man MK Dons, we were none too clever away last weekend at Preston, I seem to remember they tore into our midfield almost at will with their Arsenal loanee, and our hoch-poch team of players plus four rookies struggled and failed to score against a Pox side.

When we are good we are very good, but right now over the last few games we have been far from it, tomorrow I really do hope we return to the fluid passing game I know we can play, but the manager needs to field a side that can do that, and score goals, his responsibility.
By the way LR, we struggled against a ten man MK Dons, we were none too clever away last weekend at Preston, I seem to remember they tore into our midfield almost at will with their Arsenal loanee, and our hoch-poch team of players plus four rookies struggled and failed to score against a Pox side. When we are good we are very good, but right now over the last few games we have been far from it, tomorrow I really do hope we return to the fluid passing game I know we can play, but the manager needs to field a side that can do that, and score goals, his responsibility. the wizard
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11:34pm Fri 7 Sep 12

red white says...

the wizard wrote:
Who called it a "witch hunt", only you so far.

As goes the criticism/diagnosis, yes I listened to the interview several times, and he plays Flint up as well as putting him down. No mention of Macca who was far from good all game, why not?

Don't forget PDC's record as a player, committed yes, professional always ? No. Did he not sit down on the pitch and demand to be subbed because of a turned down penalty claim, absent from away games, a few fall-outs with team mates, far from the perfection he demands from his players yet hardly the soul of discretion then or now, seems that he also has a limit, the next tantrum is possibly on the simmer right now awaiting its chance to flourish into full bloom tomorrow. As goes poking fun, the Pox are not alone, not by a very long way. Seems he is an easy target just now for anyone, shame because I thought he was better than that. He made a rod for his own back earlier this week, with his Charity item, and as you proclaimed last week the media love him for his out bursts so the Beeb gave him his own column.
Flawed genius ? quite probably, as perfect as he proclaims ?, no far from it.
Does he have what it takes this season, I hope so, but time will reveal that answer. Do I want him to leave ?, categorically NO, but, he will decide when he has had enough, and at that point, he will be gone, because that is his temperament and ego.
Don't mess with General di Canio!

He stays for his 2 years,no problem there.

If we go up.....


(which we will)
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Who called it a "witch hunt", only you so far. As goes the criticism/diagnosis, yes I listened to the interview several times, and he plays Flint up as well as putting him down. No mention of Macca who was far from good all game, why not? Don't forget PDC's record as a player, committed yes, professional always ? No. Did he not sit down on the pitch and demand to be subbed because of a turned down penalty claim, absent from away games, a few fall-outs with team mates, far from the perfection he demands from his players yet hardly the soul of discretion then or now, seems that he also has a limit, the next tantrum is possibly on the simmer right now awaiting its chance to flourish into full bloom tomorrow. As goes poking fun, the Pox are not alone, not by a very long way. Seems he is an easy target just now for anyone, shame because I thought he was better than that. He made a rod for his own back earlier this week, with his Charity item, and as you proclaimed last week the media love him for his out bursts so the Beeb gave him his own column. Flawed genius ? quite probably, as perfect as he proclaims ?, no far from it. Does he have what it takes this season, I hope so, but time will reveal that answer. Do I want him to leave ?, categorically NO, but, he will decide when he has had enough, and at that point, he will be gone, because that is his temperament and ego.[/p][/quote]Don't mess with General di Canio! He stays for his 2 years,no problem there. If we go up..... (which we will) red white
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12:18am Sat 8 Sep 12

SAPFanSTFC says...

red white wrote:
We are live on Al Jazeera tomorrow 3pm.

The only sat live game.

Yoooou Reds!
Being shown live at the Old Nick on Station Road in Royal Wootton Bassett - Just in case anyone can't get there tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: We are live on Al Jazeera tomorrow 3pm. The only sat live game. Yoooou Reds![/p][/quote]Being shown live at the Old Nick on Station Road in Royal Wootton Bassett - Just in case anyone can't get there tomorrow. SAPFanSTFC
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1:35am Sat 8 Sep 12

Wilesy says...

Football is a results business. Paolo should therefore be judged on his resultsvwhich since he joined have been more than acceptable.

W4 D1 L2 is a good start to the season, especially with the wins over Brighton and Stoke.

The slightly eccentric tough love approach is not new, Brian Clough a great example.

It's just the opposite to the wishy washy approach of others, and that approach can work as well.

Let's not forget that he praises players as well, Eg Wes has been praised countless times on radio and b@locked just the once.

What Paolo is is a character, and like it or not he is achieving on the whole very good results and has put some interest and upward momentum into the club, and we are in a far better state for it.

One thing I've noticed is he has the ability to see the big picture and look long term. Eg Wembley he played Bostock and McEvely at the expense of Cibocchi and J Smith. look who is now in the team.

On Wed he threw the new players in at the deep end, in a hostile atmosphere, to see what they were made of. He and they will have learnt a lot from that, and whilst we are sore at the moment, promotion will sooth the pain and then some.
Football is a results business. Paolo should therefore be judged on his resultsvwhich since he joined have been more than acceptable. W4 D1 L2 is a good start to the season, especially with the wins over Brighton and Stoke. The slightly eccentric tough love approach is not new, Brian Clough a great example. It's just the opposite to the wishy washy approach of others, and that approach can work as well. Let's not forget that he praises players as well, Eg Wes has been praised countless times on radio and b@locked just the once. What Paolo is is a character, and like it or not he is achieving on the whole very good results and has put some interest and upward momentum into the club, and we are in a far better state for it. One thing I've noticed is he has the ability to see the big picture and look long term. Eg Wembley he played Bostock and McEvely at the expense of Cibocchi and J Smith. look who is now in the team. On Wed he threw the new players in at the deep end, in a hostile atmosphere, to see what they were made of. He and they will have learnt a lot from that, and whilst we are sore at the moment, promotion will sooth the pain and then some. Wilesy
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7:06am Sat 8 Sep 12

London Red says...

Top post Wilesy - though I would add one thing:
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Managed 60 Won 40 Drew 9 Lost 16 - win ratio of 62%
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Lets look at his full record as it is very very impressive!
.
I personally find the best way is to not buy into the sensationalist headlines, PdC OTT rants etc and just focus on the underlying messages which are there
.
If you just focus on that bit (which is actually the important bit) and you see what PdC is trying to do - it would also remove the hoo-hah around it
.
I'm sure the players do that as Wes most know PdC doesn't think he is the worst professional ever - think everyone connected to the club know that - it is just PdC way - exaggerate to make a point - just like the Barcelona comment against Stoke!
Top post Wilesy - though I would add one thing: . Managed 60 Won 40 Drew 9 Lost 16 - win ratio of 62% . Lets look at his full record as it is very very impressive! . I personally find the best way is to not buy into the sensationalist headlines, PdC OTT rants etc and just focus on the underlying messages which are there . If you just focus on that bit (which is actually the important bit) and you see what PdC is trying to do - it would also remove the hoo-hah around it . I'm sure the players do that as Wes most know PdC doesn't think he is the worst professional ever - think everyone connected to the club know that - it is just PdC way - exaggerate to make a point - just like the Barcelona comment against Stoke! London Red
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7:14am Sat 8 Sep 12

Anoldgreymoonraker says...

Gonna watch it here in Japan via the computer ....:o))
Gonna watch it here in Japan via the computer ....:o)) Anoldgreymoonraker
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7:38am Sat 8 Sep 12

LionelHutz says...

Malkym wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season.

There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.
IMO Err yes it is a p!ss pot cup, new wembley is a dump, and losing to Oxford is no different to losing to anybody a loss is a loss. You're dead right though the JPT is certainly irrelevant.
If those are your thoughts then it is your opinions that are irrelevant, my friend.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season. There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]IMO Err yes it is a p!ss pot cup, new wembley is a dump, and losing to Oxford is no different to losing to anybody a loss is a loss. You're dead right though the JPT is certainly irrelevant.[/p][/quote]If those are your thoughts then it is your opinions that are irrelevant, my friend. LionelHutz
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7:43am Sat 8 Sep 12

LionelHutz says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l
Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season.

There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.
Lazaat doesn't annoy me as he's a true fan but like you I don't agree with the sentiment.
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JPT always splits the true fans but sadly far more weight is added by the hangers on...like you it hurt twice on Wednesday...a day out at Wembley - regardless of expense - is a memory to be treasured...I mean come on!!..we have been twice to the new Wembley and 3 times to the Old (with differing results) and ALL of them will stay with me for life....imagine being a Bradford or Brentford or even a W.B.A. fan compared to us!?
..
Despite all out trials and tribulations we ARE STFC!!!...and we can all be REALLY proud of our history and recent history.....I know we can be proud of our future!
I didn't say lazaat annoys me (I don't know him/her), just that the comment did. And it's not a competition for who's a true fan - I spend thousands every season support Town (including trips to Exeter, Southend and Barnet in the JPT last season). I don't subscribe to the theory that cup games are a distraction, either. This is a very new phenomenon in football and one of the many reasons I like Paolo's style of management is that he takes every compeitition seriously.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: Let's put things into perspective! We lost in the tin pot trophy to a team who were playing their cup final! They are a pub team who played hoof ball and again got lucky on the night. We have made a much better start this season than last and a win tomorrow will put us right up there, and with Ritchie and Roberts to come back into the side things are l[/p][/quote]Got to be honest, this kind of comment really annoys me. It's not a 'tin pot' cup, it's our only realistic chance of silverware. I for one really enjoyed the trip to Wembley last season. There's is also the fact that losing to Oxford again was horrible. The competition is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Lazaat doesn't annoy me as he's a true fan but like you I don't agree with the sentiment. -- JPT always splits the true fans but sadly far more weight is added by the hangers on...like you it hurt twice on Wednesday...a day out at Wembley - regardless of expense - is a memory to be treasured...I mean come on!!..we have been twice to the new Wembley and 3 times to the Old (with differing results) and ALL of them will stay with me for life....imagine being a Bradford or Brentford or even a W.B.A. fan compared to us!? .. Despite all out trials and tribulations we ARE STFC!!!...and we can all be REALLY proud of our history and recent history.....I know we can be proud of our future![/p][/quote]I didn't say lazaat annoys me (I don't know him/her), just that the comment did. And it's not a competition for who's a true fan - I spend thousands every season support Town (including trips to Exeter, Southend and Barnet in the JPT last season). I don't subscribe to the theory that cup games are a distraction, either. This is a very new phenomenon in football and one of the many reasons I like Paolo's style of management is that he takes every compeitition seriously. LionelHutz
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8:24am Sat 8 Sep 12

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
Top post Wilesy - though I would add one thing:
.
Managed 60 Won 40 Drew 9 Lost 16 - win ratio of 62%
.
Lets look at his full record as it is very very impressive!
.
I personally find the best way is to not buy into the sensationalist headlines, PdC OTT rants etc and just focus on the underlying messages which are there
.
If you just focus on that bit (which is actually the important bit) and you see what PdC is trying to do - it would also remove the hoo-hah around it
.
I'm sure the players do that as Wes most know PdC doesn't think he is the worst professional ever - think everyone connected to the club know that - it is just PdC way - exaggerate to make a point - just like the Barcelona comment against Stoke!
I would love to work for Paolo, a hard taskmaster yes, a perfectionist yes, but I bet you would feel ten feet tall when he praised you.

There is a sense of humour in there as well and a Mourinho like attention to detail.

Clearly the Capitol One cup is the cup he was interested in going for this year, you can see from the difference in touchline passion.

40 wins out of 60, if he maintains that throughout his managerial career what a career that will be.

He does what he likes is a good description, and he likes to win.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Top post Wilesy - though I would add one thing: . Managed 60 Won 40 Drew 9 Lost 16 - win ratio of 62% . Lets look at his full record as it is very very impressive! . I personally find the best way is to not buy into the sensationalist headlines, PdC OTT rants etc and just focus on the underlying messages which are there . If you just focus on that bit (which is actually the important bit) and you see what PdC is trying to do - it would also remove the hoo-hah around it . I'm sure the players do that as Wes most know PdC doesn't think he is the worst professional ever - think everyone connected to the club know that - it is just PdC way - exaggerate to make a point - just like the Barcelona comment against Stoke![/p][/quote]I would love to work for Paolo, a hard taskmaster yes, a perfectionist yes, but I bet you would feel ten feet tall when he praised you. There is a sense of humour in there as well and a Mourinho like attention to detail. Clearly the Capitol One cup is the cup he was interested in going for this year, you can see from the difference in touchline passion. 40 wins out of 60, if he maintains that throughout his managerial career what a career that will be. He does what he likes is a good description, and he likes to win. Wilesy
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1:29pm Sat 8 Sep 12

London Red says...

Sorry that should have been 65 games not 60
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The others including the percentage are right
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Still 40 wins in 65 is still a brilliant record
Sorry that should have been 65 games not 60 . The others including the percentage are right . Still 40 wins in 65 is still a brilliant record London Red
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8:23am Wed 26 Sep 12

stfc2012 says...

So much bickering after a great result. Austin will always divide people. A great player who in 6 months of playing pro was a better footballer than most in the league. You can't teach it, if you could then players with a decade more experience over him would have a touch as good as his. Off field i am not interested. There are things going on week in and week out at football clubs and lots of players are not saints. It's unfair to focus on a supposed incident and shout it out as gospel. He also can't be made a scape goat for that season. He came, he had a great record, ambition moved him on and we did and still will make money from him. This is football and if you haven't figured out that's how it works by now then you never will. Austin and Paynter both earned their moves and Austin was able to make the most of his. See who's moaning when he leaves Burnley for 5m and we get a nice slice of that.
So much bickering after a great result. Austin will always divide people. A great player who in 6 months of playing pro was a better footballer than most in the league. You can't teach it, if you could then players with a decade more experience over him would have a touch as good as his. Off field i am not interested. There are things going on week in and week out at football clubs and lots of players are not saints. It's unfair to focus on a supposed incident and shout it out as gospel. He also can't be made a scape goat for that season. He came, he had a great record, ambition moved him on and we did and still will make money from him. This is football and if you haven't figured out that's how it works by now then you never will. Austin and Paynter both earned their moves and Austin was able to make the most of his. See who's moaning when he leaves Burnley for 5m and we get a nice slice of that. stfc2012
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