MATCHDAY LIVE: Swindon Town v Colchester United

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  • FULL-TIME: Swindon Town 0 Colchester United 1 (Rose, 70)
  • Former Town defender Michael Rose curls in a free-kick to win it for the visitors

10:33pm

10:27pm

Midfielder Tommy Miller admitted Town never got going during this evening's defeat at the hands of Colchester.

CONFIDENCE BUILDER: Tommy Miller

TOMMY MILLER

“It was similar to Leyton Orient a couple of weeks ago because there was no passion and no fight, we created nothing, and we never got going.

“Colchester came here with a new manager and a bit of belief after they won on Saturday, and they played a different formation and made it difficult for us.

“We couldn’t get going and didn’t get going, and they deserved their win.

“With a lot of teams in this league consistency is massive, and you have to be at it week in week out otherwise you will fail. We weren’t at the races so we need to look in the mirror, and maybe we got carried away with the last few result and we need to get back to basics and get going again.

“The manager is as disappointed as we are, and things were said which were the truth, and we need to get back to basics starting on Saturday. We need to go on another run but we need to improve all over the pitch.

“Last season when I wasn’t here we were fantastic at home, and the home record was superb, but we need to dust ourselves down and work on things.

“We will go to Bury and everyone will expect us to win, but there are no easy games in this league and we need to be on it from the kick-off.”

10:10pm

10:05pm

Town captain Alan McCormack has just spoken to the media, and summed up the mood in the Swindon dressing room.

MIND GAMES: Alan McCormack

DOWN: Alan McCormack

"It's not the greatest feeling and there are a lot of down heads in the dressing room, but we have to be honest and say we didn't deserve to get anything out of the game.

"Our passing wasn't good enough and the shape wasn't good enough, and we allowed them time on the ball and they got their rewards.

"We might have got away with it last season but not this year.

"They made us be poor and when we got on top we didn't stay there, and they eventually got the goal which we are not happy about.

"It is not nice to lose at home, especially knowing how well we can play, but when are in a different league now with a different standard of players and we have to step up."

9:40pm

FULL-TIME: Swindon Town 0 Colchester 1

9:40pm

And that's it, a round chorus of boos as Town lose at home

9:39pm

90+3 minutes: Tom Eastman goes into the book as Town win a free-kick 35 yards from goal, but the winger drags his shot harmlessly wide.

9:38pm

90+2 minutes: Town take a corner short but it is cleared at the near post.

9:35pm

Four added minutes

9:34pm

Town starting to rush things here as time runs down, they have never really got going to be honest.

9:34pm

Attendance: 7,443 (121 away fans)

9:32pm

84 minutes: Ferry chips a nice ball through for Williams, but Wilson flicks it away as he shapes to shoot.

9:29pm

82 minutes: Bessone gives away a needless corner, but Archibald-Henville rises highest to clear.

9:27pm

78 minutes: McEveley’s cross is blocked but the ball finds its way to Collin who has a sight of goal, but he is offside.

9:24pm

75 minutes: Sears has a chance within seconds of coming on, but he slots his shot wide of Foderingham’s left post.

9:23pm

74 minutes: Town have a succession of corners, which comes to an end after keeper Cousins is foulded. Freddie Sears on for Sanchez Watt.

9:18pm

70 minutes GOAL 1-0 Colchester (Rose): Bessone handballs and gives away a free-kick five yards outside the box, and former Town left-back Michael Rose curls a low effort into the back of the net.

9:16pm

68 minutes: Sanchez Watt picks up the ball after Bessone misjudges a header, but the wide man mis-controls and runs it out of play.

9:15pm

67 minutes: Adam Rooney replaces De Vita, and Williams shifts to the left

9:13pm

65 minutes: Ritchie drags a shot wide from the edge of the box

9:11pm

63 minutes: Williams has time and space to cross, but instead drills a shot high and wide. Di Canio is not happy and punches the dugout again.

9:09pm

60 minutes: Collins takes a stab at the ball from De Vita’s knock-back, and does well to turn it goalwards but it is straight at Cousins.

9:06pm

57 minutes: Eastmond is booked for diving over Archibald-Henville’s outstretched leg. Very dramatic. Ferry on for Navarro.

9:03pm

55 minutes: Brian Wilson curls a free-kick over the bar, before James Collins replaces Benson.

8:59pm

The second half has picked up where the first left off, with both sides giving the ball away. Conditions may not be helping, but this really isn't great to watch.

8:57pm

49 minutes: Eastmond’s freekick flashes across the box and beats everyone. Dangerous ball though.

8:52pm

Underway again, and the long balls continue

8:49pm

Here come Town, no changes by the looks of things

8:48pm

Colchester are back out for the second half, just waiting for Town now

8:46pm

LEAGUE ONE HALF-TIMES

Brentford 0 - 0 Shrewsbury
Bury P - P Carlisle  Postponed - due to waterlogged pitch
Coventry 1 - 1 MK Dons
Crawley 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Crewe 0 - 0 Oldham
Doncaster 1 - 1 Preston
Hartlepool 0 - 1 Sheff Utd
Notts County 0 - 0 Stevenage
Scunthorpe 1 - 0 Tranmere
Swindon 0 - 0 Colchester
Walsall 0 - 2 Leyton Orient
Yeovil 0 - 1 Portsmouth

8:34pm

HALF-TIME: Swindon Town 0 Colchester United 0

8:33pm

And thats it for the first half, a few boos there as the players trudge off.

8:32pm

46 minutes: McEveley gives the ball away, and Jabo Ibehre and Sanchez Watt have a succession of shots which the Town defence do well to block. Two minutes added time.

8:31pm

43 minutes: Town break quickly as Foderingham finds Ritchie, and after the home side hold onto the ball, Bessone crosses for De Vita but the winger hits his shot into the ground and it goes over the bar.

8:28pm

39 minutes: Brian Wilson goes into the book for the visitors after fouling De Vita.

8:26pm

38 minutes: Marcus Okuonghae heads wide from a Craig Eastmond corner.

8:23pm

All getting very scrappy here, Troy Archibald-Henville and Alan Navarro in particular have both given away a number of passes. Colchester not much better though, which has led to an unnattractive game.

8:19pm

30 minutes: Williams’ little ball inside finds De Vita who feeds Ritchie, but the midfielder’s shot is blocked behind by Tom Eastman. Town play the corner short, but McEveley’s drilled cross evades everyone...and forces Di Cano to punch the dugout.

8:15pm

27 minutes: De Vita robs Marcus Bean to set up another Town attack, but Navarro passes to a Colchester man as it quickly comes to an end.

8:14pm

Quickly becoming a lot like Saturday's game at Shrewsbury as Town toss the ball into the flanks, and they are struggling to create anything.

8:09pm

21 minutes: Town boss Paolo Di Canio makes his way onto the pitch after a foul on Andy Williams and then goes face to face with the fourth official. But the referee gives an offside.

8:06pm

Colchester are probably just about edging this so far, but when Town do get the ball down they look like making something happen.

8:04pm

15 minutes: Sanchez Watt gets into the Town area and looks to shoot, but goes with his left foot instead of his right, and his shot trickles embarrassingly wide.

8:00pm

11 minutes: Anthony Wordsworth and Brian Wilson both have long range efforts deflected over by Town defenders, but both corners come to nothing. Wordsworth’s effort was particularly threatening.

7:59pm

10 minutes: A great cross-field ball from Ritchie finds Raffa De Vita, and the Italian intelligently knocks the ball into the path of McEveley but the full-back can’t beat Cousins to the ball.

7:56pm

Eight minutes: Williams has the first real effort of the night as he latches onto Benson’s flick, but his shot is blocked by Us keeper Mark Cousins.

7:54pm

Five minutes: Williams and Ritchie combine to give Navarro a shooting opportunity, but the midfielder can't get a shot off and the ball is cleared.

7:50pm

Two minutes: Colchester have the first foray forwards, but Sanchez Watt eventually concedes a goal kick.

7:46pm

And we're underway here. Town kicking towards the Stratton Bank

7:42pm

Here come the teams, not long to go until kick-off here at the County Ground

7:42pm

So, with five minutes to go until kick-off, here's a reminder of how we can cover Town games on the Advertiser website.

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7:35pm

ROSE'S RETURN

Tonight will see an interesting battle down the Town right between Matt Ritchie and former Swindon player Michael Rose.

Matt Ritchie celebrates his goal last nightBack for good? Colchester United left-back Michael Rose wants to stay in the team for the rest of the season after returning against Exeter City. Picture: SIMON PARKER

BATTLE: Matt Ritchie and Michael Rose

The full-back enjoyed a mixed time at the County Ground between August 2010 and the following May, in a season which ultimately ended in relegation for the Robins.

He will have to be on his toes to keep Ritchie quiet, but he also can deliver a mean set piece which could cause Town trouble.

7:25pm

YOUR SAY

7:19pm Tue 2 Oct 12

avo says

I have often wondered when I will get my time too...

Keep dreaming...

7:24pm

Paolo Di Canio was asked at his pre-match press conference on Thursday whether he could see many similarities between his side's recent good run of form and a purple patch at the start of last term which saw three consecutive victories.

Here is what he had to say...

“No, the start of the season was completely different to last season. It’s different if you start badly and then come back and do well then for a week something goes wrong, it’s not easy to understand that can happen.

Paolo Di Canio celebrates Town's winner last Saturday

PASSION: PAOLO DI CANIO

“You have to work hard, especially the players who joined us in the summer, and they have to forget what went on before and go with my regime.

“It was easy because they are more adult, more professional and it is a completely different situation.

“Obviously we have now won four games in a row, we cancelled straight away a bad week. Last year it’s true that we won three in a row but after that period I didn’t feel that we completely went out of our bad moment because we were up and down.

“It’s not completely similar. I’m hpoing that we will keep on winning and playing our football."

7:16pm

DANGER MEN - A look at the men who will be causing Town problems this evening.

Staying: Jabo Ibehre

Jabo Ibehre

The on-loan MK Dons striker marked his Colchester debut on Saturday with two goals against Hartlepool, and has been a handful for defences up and down the country throughout his career. His spells with the Dons and Orient have not always brought the goals perhaps expected of him, but he work rate and physical presence can often give his side a platform to build on.

Sanchez Watt, right, has been cleared to play for Leeds against his parent club

Sanchez Watt

Any loanee from Arsenal is going to add something to a side in League One, and Watt is no different. As a youngster the forward attracted interest from Barcelona, but instead began his career with the Gunners and has enjoyed successful spells on loan at Leeds, Crawley and Sheffield Wednesday. Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger once said of Watt: "I like his movement, his sharpness, his great work rate, his left-footed quality. I believe he is determined."

Best-ever season - Anthony Wordsworth believes he has grown and developed as a player this season. Picture: STEVE BRADING (CO35940-13)

Anthony Wordsworth

The Colchester captain can play anywhere across the midfield, and is equally adept at playing the holding role or pushing forward to support the attack. He has goals in him too, and is capable of finding the net from anywhere.

7:15pm

YOUR SAY
Town defender Aden Flint, who's not part of the matchday squad, wishes his teammates good luck on Twitter.

7:13pm

ADVERTISER CHIEF SPORTS WRITER SAM MORSHEAD: "Both teams are out on the County Ground pitch doing their warm-ups.

"We're hearing that Nathan Thompson is still carrying a slight knock, hence his absence this evening.

THE SAM MORSHEAD COLUMN

SAM MORSHEAD

"Looking at the Colchester squad you'd never think they'd be struggling.

"Plenty of class players at League One level - including the rock-solid Magnus Okuonghae and talented midfielder Anthony Wordsworth.

"It won't be a walkover tonight, that's for sure."

7:08pm

Now Paolo Di Canio has named his squad for today's game, here's a snippet of his pre-match interview during which he talks about when he generally names his matchday XIs.

He said: “I don’t have a specific moment.

"Obviously I have an idea, every manager has an idea, but with me with my side I discovered last year that sometimes I can decide two days early and be clear with myself because I’m sure about the players I want to send out.

Paolo Di Canio celebrating another Town win on Tuesday night

MASTERMIND: PAOLO DI CANIO

“But I don’t know if in the future it will be the same but I have to be sure about everything.

"Maybe in the future I can be more clear but it’s not easy for me because two days is a long time, anything can happen - the attittude, the behaviour can make me change my idea and also news that I receive from the opponents."

7:03pm

YOUR SAY

6:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

mustard red says

Bostock must be wondering what he has to do to get a game. Let's hope he gets some time on the field today.

7:02pm

That's four changes in all for Swindon Town tonight, and no place on the bench for Gary Roberts or Nathan Thompson.

Tommy Miller, Alan Navarro, Paul Benson and Troy Archibald-Henville return to the starting line-up.

The Italian Job

BACK IN: TROY ARCHIBALD-HENVILLE

No word of why Roberts is missing just yet, but the Adver learnt that Thompson missed Saturday's game with a slight knock.

6:55pm

TEAM NEWS

SWINDON TOWN v Colchester United: Foderingham; Bessone, McCormack, Archibald-Henville, McEveley; Ritchie, Miller, Navarro, De Vita; Benson, Williams

Substitutes: Bedwell, Devera, Ferry, Ward, Collins, Bostock, A Rooney

6:54pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

COLCHESTER UNITED v Swindon Town: Cousins; Wilson, Okuonghae, Eastman, Rose; Eastmond, Wordsworth, Bean; Massey, Watt, Ibehre

Substitutes: Pentney, White, Heath, Henderson, Duguid, Sears, Morrison

6:52pm

HISTORY BOOKS

The last time these two teams met, Swindon celebrated a mini giant-killing.

Matt Ritchie scored the only goal of the game as Town beat the U's 1-0 away from home in the second round of the FA Cup last season.

Matt Ritchie celebrates his goal last night

GOAL HERO: MATT RITCHIE

The Robins would go on to play Wigan who, of course, they famously beat at the County Ground.

You can read the Adver's match report from that game right here.

6:44pm

YOUR SAY
That'll be a fascinating contest, and one we'll delve into later.

6:44pm

For anyone who's interested, Darren Ward has his own online blog which makes for interesting reading.

In it the centre-back talks about his lifestyle and fitness/nutrition routines.

You can take a good look at it right here.

HIGH POINT: Darren Ward climbs to head clear against Bournemouth

IN SHAPE: DARREN WARD

6:41pm

There's a nice little feature interview in the matchday programme with Darren Ward tonight.

In it he tells us all how his move to Swindon has gone so far, from a personal point of view.

He said: "I have really enjoyed my time here.

Darren Ward

ENJOYING HIS TIME IN SWINDON: DARREN WARD

"It has been tough from a training point of view but I am getting used to the regime.

"It has been a good challenge and that's something I wanted."

6:38pm

YOUR SAY

A lot of excitement around the club at the moment. Great to see!

 

6:36pm

6:35pm

TEAM NEWS

Nothing official expected for around half-an-hour, but it's likely that there will be changes to the team which started the 1-0 win at Shrewsbury on Saturday.

Tommy Miller, Paul Benson, Gary Roberts and Alan Navarro will all be pushing for recalls after being left on the bench at the New Meadow, while Nathan Thompson could also return.

CONFIDENCE BUILDER: Tommy Miller   Swindon Town's Gary Roberts   Paul Benson celebrates after scoring Town's second against Carlisle

BACK IN?: TOMMY MILLER, GARY ROBERTS & PAUL BENSON

For Colchester, goalkeeper Mark Cousins is a minor doubt with a dislocated finger.

6:31pm

Federico Bessone came into the side in place of Nathan Thompson at Shrewsbury, in the unfamiliar position of right-back.

Paolo Di Canio was pleased with Bessone's performance, saying: “He was not in his natural position but he can use his right foot, he can cover the position, he’s a dynamic footballer with knowledge and intelligence, it was the first time under us in this position and we know we can use him also in there.

Federico Bessone in action last night

OUT OF POSITION: Fede Bessone

“It’s more natural to use him on the left side but he did well and we will see if he will play again there.

6:29pm

Paolo Di Canio made six changes to his starting line-up for the 1-0 win at Shrewsbury on Saturday, and he's expected to make several more tonight.

One man who missed out at the New Meadow was Nathan Thompson, despite the youngster impressing in recent weeks.

Di Canio told the press on Thursday how he felt about the full-back's contribution so far.

"He’s a young player, he did well for three games but this is what I decided.

Nathan Thompson

IN OR OUT?: NATHAN THOMPSON

“Nobody asked about Nathan until one week ago, he did very well but he has to improve a lot. Then when I call him back he has to do his job properly."

6:20pm

If you're coming to the game tonight and you've yet to set off, I'd advise adding a little extra time to your journey.

The weight of traffic around the County Ground has been worsened by diversions caused by roadworks in the town - it's not fun to negotiate, let me tell you.

6:19pm

It's been tipping down at the County Ground, but the pitch once again looks in spectacular condition and is a real testament to the work put in by head groundsman Marcus Cassidy and his team.

6:18pm

YOUR SAY

5:02pm Tue 2 Oct 12

SeanG92 says

The pre match excitement starts to set in about now :)

COYR's

Not even the horrendous weather tonight can dampen Town fans' excitement as the League One campaign gathers pace.

6:17pm

YOUR SAY

Remember ‘Matchday Live’ is not just about us spouting nonsense for five hours at a time. It’s a forum for Swindon Town fans’ views on everything going on at SN1 at present.

Whether it’s Paolo Di Canio’s team selection or lukewarm coffee in the Don Rogers, we want to hear from you.

And there are plenty of ways to get involved over the course of the evening – all of which are conveniently listed below.

l Twitter – if you’re Tweet-friendly then use the hashtag #stfcadver to have your say, and follow chief sports writer Sam Morshead (@SamMorshead_SA) throughout the game for up-to-the-second commentary.

l Comment – the box below is ready for use. If the comments are sensible and clean then they may well find themselves inserted into the live blog later in the evening.

l Email – you can always pop us an email, just send your ramblings across to smorshead@swindonadvertiser.co.uk.

Get involved!

6:15pm

Good evening ladies and gents and welcome to the Advertiser's live coverage of the League One clash between Swindon Town and Colchester United at the County Ground.

Town go into tonight's match off the back of four successive victories in all competitions, including three in the league, and are strong favourites to make it five against the struggling U's this evening.

However, Colchester's new boss Joe Dunne - appointed last week following the dismissal of John Ward - made a brilliant start to life in management, overseeing the Essex club's first win of the season against Hartlepool on Saturday.

Dunne will be hoping for more of the same from his players, in particular loan striker Jabo Ibehre who netted twice on his debut against Pools.

So settle in, put the kettle on and slide on your slippers as we bring you all the build-up, action and reaction live.

Comments(72)

Robinonfire says...
3:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Here we go again....Come on you REDS

smirg kcab says...
4:01pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Robinonfire wrote:
Here we go again....Come on you REDS
I know the feeling nearly a quarter the way into the season already, and we are only fourth.
Onwards and upwards

SAPFanSTFC says...
4:16pm Tue 2 Oct 12

smirg kcab wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
Here we go again....Come on you REDS
I know the feeling nearly a quarter the way into the season already, and we are only fourth.
Onwards and upwards
We're RUBBISH!! :-)
---.
Feeling good about tonight despite their new manager....we'll turn up and scare the pants off them by half-time.
---.
Give a shout for me please folks...stuck over in Ireland for this match.

Swindon1984 says...
4:19pm Tue 2 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Robinonfire wrote: Here we go again....Come on you REDS
I know the feeling nearly a quarter the way into the season already, and we are only fourth. Onwards and upwards
We're RUBBISH!! :-) ---. Feeling good about tonight despite their new manager....we'll turn up and scare the pants off them by half-time. ---. Give a shout for me please folks...stuck over in Ireland for this match.
Enjoy, you could be in worse places! :-)

TheDukeOfBanbury says...
4:28pm Tue 2 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Robinonfire wrote: Here we go again....Come on you REDS
I know the feeling nearly a quarter the way into the season already, and we are only fourth. Onwards and upwards
We're RUBBISH!! :-) ---. Feeling good about tonight despite their new manager....we'll turn up and scare the pants off them by half-time. ---. Give a shout for me please folks...stuck over in Ireland for this match.
I will do your bit Mate........but your COYRd's is fairly impressive !!

No doubt you will be close to the action.

SeanG92 says...
5:02pm Tue 2 Oct 12

The pre match excitement starts to set in about now :)

COYR's

mustard red says...
6:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Bostock must be wondering what he has to do to get a game. Let's hope he gets some time on the field today.

avo says...
7:19pm Tue 2 Oct 12

I have often wondered when I will get my time too...

SAPFanSTFC says...
7:25pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Swindon1984 wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Robinonfire wrote: Here we go again....Come on you REDS
I know the feeling nearly a quarter the way into the season already, and we are only fourth. Onwards and upwards
We're RUBBISH!! :-) ---. Feeling good about tonight despite their new manager....we'll turn up and scare the pants off them by half-time. ---. Give a shout for me please folks...stuck over in Ireland for this match.
Enjoy, you could be in worse places! :-)
Too true!...& Celtic won already so I'm all warmed up ready for the main show!

mancrobin says...
7:27pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Strange comments about Nathan from Paolo. He must also be wondering what he has to do to keep his place. Hasn't he been a MoM contender in the games he's played? He can only improve as Paolo wants if he plays him.

SAPFanSTFC says...
7:32pm Tue 2 Oct 12

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Robinonfire wrote: Here we go again....Come on you REDS
I know the feeling nearly a quarter the way into the season already, and we are only fourth. Onwards and upwards
We're RUBBISH!! :-) ---. Feeling good about tonight despite their new manager....we'll turn up and scare the pants off them by half-time. ---. Give a shout for me please folks...stuck over in Ireland for this match.
I will do your bit Mate........but your COYRd's is fairly impressive !!

No doubt you will be close to the action.
Not moving from the laptop now....just hoping the connection stays good - we've had some really stormy weather this afternoon and more coming in soon.
---
.
:-) - I'm afraid I don't do quiet too well, far more in the mould of a certain well known bearded man on TV.
---.
Makes me laugh though - my 6 & 4yr old don't blink when I shout and don't hear me at home yet they moan....my 2yr old daughter came the other week and shouted yrrr yrrr yrrr YRRR! at the top of her voice after the Come on you Reds....that destroyed me for ages!
===.
Good to see you again on Saturday Duke!...and hope it won't be too long again.

SAPFanSTFC says...
7:35pm Tue 2 Oct 12

mancrobin wrote:
Strange comments about Nathan from Paolo. He must also be wondering what he has to do to keep his place. Hasn't he been a MoM contender in the games he's played? He can only improve as Paolo wants if he plays him.
What did he say?...missed that

SAPFanSTFC says...
7:43pm Tue 2 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Strange comments about Nathan from Paolo. He must also be wondering what he has to do to keep his place. Hasn't he been a MoM contender in the games he's played? He can only improve as Paolo wants if he plays him.
What did he say?...missed that
Just seen it:
“Nobody asked about Nathan until one week ago, he did very well but he has to improve a lot. Then when I call him back he has to do his job properly."
---.
Not quite true as several of us have been banging on about him for quite some time now....he is the future lets just hope htis is all about keeping his feet firmly planted on the ground!
---.
My problem is that I've seen Bessone twice now and on both occassions he has been wasteful at best with his distribution...he needs find the players and not look to hoof so often....my big worry is that he'll cost us tonight.

stfc4ever!! says...
9:23pm Tue 2 Oct 12

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Strange comments about Nathan from Paolo. He must also be wondering what he has to do to keep his place. Hasn't he been a MoM contender in the games he's played? He can only improve as Paolo wants if he plays him.
What did he say?...missed that
Just seen it:
“Nobody asked about Nathan until one week ago, he did very well but he has to improve a lot. Then when I call him back he has to do his job properly."
---.
Not quite true as several of us have been banging on about him for quite some time now....he is the future lets just hope htis is all about keeping his feet firmly planted on the ground!
---.
My problem is that I've seen Bessone twice now and on both occassions he has been wasteful at best with his distribution...he needs find the players and not look to hoof so often....my big worry is that he'll cost us tonight.
gd call SAP! was his handball that gave that freekick away!!!

joey butler says...
9:39pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Best Board of Directors for many years.

Biggest squad for many years and very highly paid.

Most enthusiatic fans for many years.

And we cannot even beat Colchester!!

Very sad evening at The County Ground.

Guv says...
9:46pm Tue 2 Oct 12

joey butler wrote:
Best Board of Directors for many years.

Biggest squad for many years and very highly paid.

Most enthusiatic fans for many years.

And we cannot even beat Colchester!!

Very sad evening at The County Ground.
Best cup run for years
best chances of going up year on year for years
We could beat Colchester, however, the performance was under par tonight. It happens.

Get behind the team! It will happen. Collins needs to start finding the net now, he's not employed for running, he's supposed to be a striker! That's our trouble, we still cannot find real strikers!

joey butler says...
9:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Guv wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Best Board of Directors for many years.

Biggest squad for many years and very highly paid.

Most enthusiatic fans for many years.

And we cannot even beat Colchester!!

Very sad evening at The County Ground.
Best cup run for years
best chances of going up year on year for years
We could beat Colchester, however, the performance was under par tonight. It happens.

Get behind the team! It will happen. Collins needs to start finding the net now, he's not employed for running, he's supposed to be a striker! That's our trouble, we still cannot find real strikers!
Time to wake up 'Guv'.

After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season.

A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!

Davidsyrett says...
10:03pm Tue 2 Oct 12

That made the orient performance look good. What happened tonight? Stop changing the team PdC. Thompson needs to start, Bessone was so poor, how Paolo can rate him is beyond me. Midfield just went missing, whats the point of chasing Bostock all summer just to leave him on the bench, the game was screaming out for him.

Lets hope we get back on track against Bury

DarrenSTFCRomain says...
10:16pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Haha 1 lose and the knifes are out?

southside7 says...
10:18pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Thompson was injured......what does Bostock have to do?

mikek says...
10:24pm Tue 2 Oct 12

I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.

Davidsyrett says...
10:24pm Tue 2 Oct 12

southside7 wrote:
Thompson was injured......what does Bostock have to do?
Thompson was available for selection tonight but not picked. Bostock has been waiting in the wings all season, he could have added pace to a very flat performance. Why not give him a chance? We always bring an Ferry,

the don69 says...
10:31pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Beaten by much the better side on the night!so the less said about tonight the better,we were utter Rubbish end of!!!!!!!!!!!!

redjet says...
10:33pm Tue 2 Oct 12

mikek wrote:
I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.

mikek says...
10:33pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Davidsyrett wrote:
southside7 wrote:
Thompson was injured......what does Bostock have to do?
Thompson was available for selection tonight but not picked. Bostock has been waiting in the wings all season, he could have added pace to a very flat performance. Why not give him a chance? We always bring an Ferry,
No he was not both Thompson and Roberts were injured and that is from Paolo himself on the radio.

mikek says...
10:36pm Tue 2 Oct 12

redjet wrote:
mikek wrote:
I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
Only opinions mate everyone I was sat by thought Colchester were excellent and wanted it more than us.

Davidsyrett says...
10:43pm Tue 2 Oct 12

mikek wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
southside7 wrote:
Thompson was injured......what does Bostock have to do?
Thompson was available for selection tonight but not picked. Bostock has been waiting in the wings all season, he could have added pace to a very flat performance. Why not give him a chance? We always bring an Ferry,
No he was not both Thompson and Roberts were injured and that is from Paolo himself on the radio.
the adver thread above say's "Tommy Miller, Paul Benson, Gary Roberts and Alan Navarro will all be pushing for recalls after being left on the bench at the New Meadow, while Nathan Thompson could also return." Doesn't sound like injuries unless the adver have got it wrong.

Malkym says...
10:45pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Dear fellow posters please don't come on here tonight looking for positives from that performance there weren't any. A very poor show lets be realistic. Couldn't pick a mom and thought rockin robin just shaded it from the guy who walks around the ground shouting "pwogrammes"
I said on Saturday that Colchester would be buoyed by their 1st win and today that we ignore any side in this division at our peril-wish I could pick lottery numbers as well as that.
But it's only a blip I'm sure and Pdc from his interview was refreshingly honest to admit telling the boys they have to work much harder to achieve the same result as last season but we do need a plan b against the brick sh!thouse type of defences. We can beat Villa? Not if we turn in a show like that I'm afraid but are we despondent no not really because have confidence in Paolo getting it right.

Rebel_phish says...
10:47pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Poor showing tonight, thats a gimme...

Lets put some perspective on the season so far.

P10 W5 D2 L3

Last season:
P10 W5 D0 L5

We also lost the next game as well, but ended up as champions.

People get a grip. We lost 11 matches last time out, so there is no need to panic at all. We will lose matches we think we should win and pick up max points when we think that a draw would be fair.

Keep the faith boys and girls, keep the faith.

red white says...
10:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

We'll go up as effin champions.

Trouble is Paolo said their new manger had a lot to learn or needs time,something like that...

Cursed,no worries.

red white says...
11:03pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Rebel_phish wrote:
Poor showing tonight, thats a gimme...

Lets put some perspective on the season so far.

P10 W5 D2 L3

Last season:
P10 W5 D0 L5

We also lost the next game as well, but ended up as champions.

People get a grip. We lost 11 matches last time out, so there is no need to panic at all. We will lose matches we think we should win and pick up max points when we think that a draw would be fair.

Keep the faith boys and girls, keep the faith.
We do,nice shout.

mike1990 says...
11:03pm Tue 2 Oct 12

the don69 wrote:
Beaten by much the better side on the night!so the less said about tonight the better,we were utter Rubbish end of!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep we never turned up Don,massive game on Saturday against the bottom of the league side,can't afford to lose that one.

mancrobin says...
11:05pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Sounds like a very poor performance tonight but still much too early to draw conclusions.

Paolo's team selection does baffle me at times but there is always much we do not know as fans.

interesting that the poll before the game showed most do not want more players brought in. I think that we do have a big enough squad but as of last season, the test will be to get a settled side that can provide consistency. We were at our best last season when the back four were settled. I suspect we now need to do the same again.

How did McCormack play tonight? Seems to me he hasn't reached the level yet he was at last season.

Malkym says...
11:11pm Tue 2 Oct 12

redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance.

Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season.

A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!”

Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.

old town robin says...
11:13pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Have to say, that has to be as bad as it gets. Colchester were no better than us, but we were so inept, the whole team needs to hold their head in shame. we expect to play the ball on the ground so what do we do but hoof ball. My ratingsfor staerting 11.

Wes, did OK - 6
Besonne shocking - 1
Archibald, poor - 3
Macca, best of a poor team - 7
McEverley, did OK - 5
Ritchie, as bad it gets, - 2
Navarro, ditto - 2
Miller, ditto - 2
De Vita, lack of sevice - 4
Williams, shocking - 3
Benson, run out of steam - 4

Subs, no improvement

For those that were not there, this has to be as bad a performance as you can imagine, lot of work for Paolo to sort out

Tom3000 says...
11:19pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Is it just me or is the Miller/Navarro midfield combo simply not good enough? We missed someone who could break up play and distribute the ball intelligently.

We seem to come unstuck against the rubbish but physical teams, and let's face it, you don't get much more rubbish than Colchester in this league.

Oxon-Red says...
11:20pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Very poor performance, simple passes going astray all over the field. We need to learn to play against teams that come and press, if we don't they will all do it.

Colchester did an Orient on us but despite that created very little, I counted two shots in the second half and both of those were from free kicks. Perhaps the only positive is that defensively we restricted them.

I dont blame Bessone for the handball that led to the goal, IMO it is a stupid rule. Whatever happened to accidental handball, ball to hand when they are down by the players sides from two yards, stupid, they will have to play with their hands tied behind their backs soon.

Lessons to be learnt me thinks. Lesson 1 for me, if we are forced to play the long ball, don't play it head high when the defenders are all 4 inches bigger than our forwards. Play it to the chest, far easier to control !!!!!

COYMR

Oxon-Red says...
11:31pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Tom3000 wrote:
Is it just me or is the Miller/Navarro midfield combo simply not good enough? We missed someone who could break up play and distribute the ball intelligently. We seem to come unstuck against the rubbish but physical teams, and let's face it, you don't get much more rubbish than Colchester in this league.
I think they are too similar and play too close together. I also feel they don't get forward quickly enough to support the front line. This is what Ferry (usually) does so well and why people like to see him play. People knocked Risser last season but he played the Navarro/Miller role, broke up play and let Simon work the magic.

One or the other for me with Ferry or perhaps Bostock as the driving force forward.

COYMR

Oxon-Red says...
11:39pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance. Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season. A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!” Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Malkym,

Don't disagree with your comments regarding a certain poster but it is noticeable that he is more vocal when Town have not done well and seems to get pleasure from getting a reaction from other posters. His comments appear shortly after the final whistle which begs the question does he actually go to games ?

But yes, after tonight, he has a point. Improvement is needed but it is all part of the learning curve for Paolo.

COYMR

pog702 says...
11:40pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Not one player had a good game, Williams was the closest we got to a 6 out of 10. But this was a repeat performance of Orient and I believe Di Canio needs to hold up his hands and say he has not learnt the lesson of that game, because we played in exactly the same way...long ball, by-pass midfield and wing, or overlap. We needed to change shape, and play Bostock in the hole, to pull their lines of defence apart. But in saying that well done to everyone at Town who have brought us to this level of expectancy of us playing brillinantly every single game. Thank you.

Steve. Brentford says...
11:47pm Tue 2 Oct 12

the don69 wrote:
Beaten by much the better side on the night!so the less said about tonight the better,we were utter Rubbish end of!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep.

nosyrudeman says...
11:48pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Well what an absolute woeful performance tonight. They played like strangers tonight because that is what they are. Too many changes when not needed. We have 2 sideways moving midfielders (Crabs) in Miller & Navarro. Our most creative midfielder is beyond doubt Simon Ferry. Bessone, Troy, Navarro & Ritchie all woeful tonight. We need a settled side. Squad too big and not enough quality, so change for change sake. We have had to pay fees for Troy and Collins, they should have been free transfers, cause that's what they look like. Chased Bostock for a long time, not seen him yet to any significance. Come on you reds against Bury.

joey butler says...
11:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance.

Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season.

A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!”

Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Thank you for your comments Malky, which I truely appreciate.

Oxon-Red says...
11:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

old town robin wrote:
Have to say, that has to be as bad as it gets. Colchester were no better than us, but we were so inept, the whole team needs to hold their head in shame. we expect to play the ball on the ground so what do we do but hoof ball. My ratingsfor staerting 11. Wes, did OK - 6 Besonne shocking - 1 Archibald, poor - 3 Macca, best of a poor team - 7 McEverley, did OK - 5 Ritchie, as bad it gets, - 2 Navarro, ditto - 2 Miller, ditto - 2 De Vita, lack of sevice - 4 Williams, shocking - 3 Benson, run out of steam - 4 Subs, no improvement For those that were not there, this has to be as bad a performance as you can imagine, lot of work for Paolo to sort out
Very poor assessment of players at the back. That game today was lost becuase they won the midfield battle. To give 1 to a player that is part of a unit that restricted the opponents to 6 shots all game, 5 of which were either from 20 yards plus or from set pieces, is ridiculous. You may not like him but judge him fairly.

COYMR

Malkym says...
11:56pm Tue 2 Oct 12

old town robin wrote:
Have to say, that has to be as bad as it gets. Colchester were no better than us, but we were so inept, the whole team needs to hold their head in shame. we expect to play the ball on the ground so what do we do but hoof ball. My ratingsfor staerting 11. Wes, did OK - 6 Besonne shocking - 1 Archibald, poor - 3 Macca, best of a poor team - 7 McEverley, did OK - 5 Ritchie, as bad it gets, - 2 Navarro, ditto - 2 Miller, ditto - 2 De Vita, lack of sevice - 4 Williams, shocking - 3 Benson, run out of steam - 4 Subs, no improvement For those that were not there, this has to be as bad a performance as you can imagine, lot of work for Paolo to sort out
OTR -have to say I wouldn't disagee with those too much might have given TAH another point. but we didn't tick anywhere did we? selling passes short all the time - hoofing it to a defence the size of the former Berlin Wall. No composure anywhere in the side.

Bury game suddenly becomes more important and will be played on a bog of a pitch if at all - won't be good for our trademark slick passing game and our largely diminutive players -Hi Ho! Hi Ho! (MR, SF, AM, TM, AN,etc)

joey butler says...
11:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance. Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season. A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!” Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Malkym,

Don't disagree with your comments regarding a certain poster but it is noticeable that he is more vocal when Town have not done well and seems to get pleasure from getting a reaction from other posters. His comments appear shortly after the final whistle which begs the question does he actually go to games ?

But yes, after tonight, he has a point. Improvement is needed but it is all part of the learning curve for Paolo.

COYMR
Just do one OxEn Red! You just get worse and worse Wizard!!

Oxon-Red says...
11:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
old town robin wrote: Have to say, that has to be as bad as it gets. Colchester were no better than us, but we were so inept, the whole team needs to hold their head in shame. we expect to play the ball on the ground so what do we do but hoof ball. My ratingsfor staerting 11. Wes, did OK - 6 Besonne shocking - 1 Archibald, poor - 3 Macca, best of a poor team - 7 McEverley, did OK - 5 Ritchie, as bad it gets, - 2 Navarro, ditto - 2 Miller, ditto - 2 De Vita, lack of sevice - 4 Williams, shocking - 3 Benson, run out of steam - 4 Subs, no improvement For those that were not there, this has to be as bad a performance as you can imagine, lot of work for Paolo to sort out
Very poor assessment of players at the back. That game today was lost becuase they won the midfield battle. To give 1 to a player that is part of a unit that restricted the opponents to 6 shots all game, 5 of which were either from 20 yards plus or from set pieces, is ridiculous. You may not like him but judge him fairly. COYMR
Add to that Wes did Okay 6 !!!

What did Wes have to do tonight except pick the ball out of the net after a very well struck freekick that WE should have known all about ??????

COYMR

Oxon-Red says...
12:01am Wed 3 Oct 12

joey butler wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance. Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season. A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!” Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Malkym, Don't disagree with your comments regarding a certain poster but it is noticeable that he is more vocal when Town have not done well and seems to get pleasure from getting a reaction from other posters. His comments appear shortly after the final whistle which begs the question does he actually go to games ? But yes, after tonight, he has a point. Improvement is needed but it is all part of the learning curve for Paolo. COYMR
Just do one OxEn Red! You just get worse and worse Wizard!!
Just proved my point OBU.

Malkym says...
12:09am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance. Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season. A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!” Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Malkym, Don't disagree with your comments regarding a certain poster but it is noticeable that he is more vocal when Town have not done well and seems to get pleasure from getting a reaction from other posters. His comments appear shortly after the final whistle which begs the question does he actually go to games ? But yes, after tonight, he has a point. Improvement is needed but it is all part of the learning curve for Paolo. COYMR
Hi Oxon - yes you could be right about JB - wooden spoon does come to mind and he may not go to gamesor but can be posting from a smartphone i suppose -not that it matters one iota but I just feel that we are going to have a much harder job in achieivng a second successive promotion because opposing teams appear to be generally better and are sussing our playing style big time and succeeding in stifling it as happened tonight. But that remark in itself is a bit of a paradox because we are clearly better on paper than the teams we have lost to although I take nothing away from Colchester's performance tonight but they only threatened twice - once when they fizzed a shot over the bar and when they scored. we badly need that plan B I reckon.

joey butler says...
12:13am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance. Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season. A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!” Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Malkym, Don't disagree with your comments regarding a certain poster but it is noticeable that he is more vocal when Town have not done well and seems to get pleasure from getting a reaction from other posters. His comments appear shortly after the final whistle which begs the question does he actually go to games ? But yes, after tonight, he has a point. Improvement is needed but it is all part of the learning curve for Paolo. COYMR
Just do one OxEn Red! You just get worse and worse Wizard!!
Just proved my point OBU.
Only for you Wizard, You are so very sad.

I made a constructive comment earllier about how very poor Town were tonight, which Malky agreed with, but you just had to come after me, just like the stalker you are.

Sad git you are Wizard!!!!

Oi Den! says...
12:14am Wed 3 Oct 12

No getting away from it. That was absolute rubbish tonight. We seemed intent on playing a long ball game right from the first whistle, playing straight into their hands. I thought De Vita was the only one playing any football, despite the fact that most of the service he received came in the form of diagonal balls dropping out of the sky. I was astounded to see him taken off.
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I hope Bessone and Archibald-Henville are a lot better than their performances tonight indicated. Bessone looked no better than an average fourth division player and TAH looked completely out of his depth. Also,although I wouldn't blame him for the result, the goal came from a TAH howler. His weak clearance, under minimal pressure, caused the ball to come back in. I know many people have a very high opinion of him but I've seen nothing yet to suggest that he deserves his place ahead of Flint, who at least wins most of his physical battles.
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Congrats to Col U and to their new manager on a job well done. They were sharper everywhere and ended up thoroughly deserving winners. Good goal by Rose, but either Fodders or the players in the wall have questions to answer. Rose just hit it straight and low to the left of the wall and in it went.
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No need to panic, but the longer this Jekyll and Hyde form continues, the less convincing our promotion credentials.

the wizard says...
12:17am Wed 3 Oct 12

Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref !

I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid.

No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.
 We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs.
Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.

Oxon-Red says...
12:19am Wed 3 Oct 12

Malkym wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Malkym wrote:
redjet wrote:
mikek wrote: I think tonight it was a case of Colchester being excellent, they closed us down and had more desire than us. We just could not get going and the harder we tried the worse it got and were second best all night. What saddens me is where is Flint he is far better than TAH in the air and commands his box and yet he is sat in the stands. I believe Thompson suffered possible head injury from the Burnley game so feel that is why he may be missing but Bessone looked shocking and can't understand why Devera never played at right back. Colchester did their homework and outplayed us it was that simple.
Add to that we could not get the ball down, make a good clean pass, realise where their team mate where, get to the ball first blah blah blah. Colchester where average at best we where extremely poor, end of. I really thought they where hung over they where that bad. And I really don't moan about the team much but that was really painful to watch tonight.
As two combined posts that is an extremely accurate assessment of a very poor under par performance. Not so unusually (when he decides to concentrate on the teams performance rather than other posters) I'm leaning to agree with Joey B who said -> "After Orient and now tonight, we are sure as hell not going up this season. A degree of realism is required and we are not anywhere near as good as we think we are, including me!” Well I think we can obviously still go up at this early stage of the season but certainly a reality check is required because on the strength of the Preston, Orient, Oxford, Colchester performanceswe definitely are not as good as we think. Spoke to mate who went to the Shrews game and he reckoned we also didn't play great there and got lucky with the result - tonight lady luck evened out her favours.
Malkym, Don't disagree with your comments regarding a certain poster but it is noticeable that he is more vocal when Town have not done well and seems to get pleasure from getting a reaction from other posters. His comments appear shortly after the final whistle which begs the question does he actually go to games ? But yes, after tonight, he has a point. Improvement is needed but it is all part of the learning curve for Paolo. COYMR
Hi Oxon - yes you could be right about JB - wooden spoon does come to mind and he may not go to gamesor but can be posting from a smartphone i suppose -not that it matters one iota but I just feel that we are going to have a much harder job in achieivng a second successive promotion because opposing teams appear to be generally better and are sussing our playing style big time and succeeding in stifling it as happened tonight. But that remark in itself is a bit of a paradox because we are clearly better on paper than the teams we have lost to although I take nothing away from Colchester's performance tonight but they only threatened twice - once when they fizzed a shot over the bar and when they scored. we badly need that plan B I reckon.
Spot on Malkym, the frustrating part was we didn't do the simple things well tonight i.e. pass to a player 3 yards away or control the ball when passed to us.

Too rushed ? I don't know. Hopefully Paolo and the players will work on it because it has happened twice now and if we are not careful...

The players are better than that so hopefully it will soon be sorted. Defensively, IMO, not too many problems so, as you say, plan B needed.

COYMR

Oxon-Red says...
12:24am Wed 3 Oct 12

the wizard wrote:
Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref ! I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid. No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.  We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs. Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Hello Me !!!

the wizard says...
12:25am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref ! I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid. No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.  We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs. Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Hello Me !!!
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???????????

Please explain.

Oxon-Red says...
12:27am Wed 3 Oct 12

the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote: Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref ! I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid. No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.  We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs. Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Hello Me !!!
???????????????????? ??????????? Please explain.
See the Joey Butler posts above.

the wizard says...
12:30am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote: Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref ! I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid. No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.  We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs. Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Hello Me !!!
???????????????????? ??????????? Please explain.
See the Joey Butler posts above.
I don't read them as they don't concern me, I do not respond to WUM's.

You could watch this and it explains everything about the non person to who you refer.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=C3Zn3M-WM
zM

Then decide who is pulling the strings.

Oxon-Red says...
12:42am Wed 3 Oct 12

the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote: Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref ! I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid. No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.  We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs. Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Hello Me !!!
???????????????????? ??????????? Please explain.
See the Joey Butler posts above.
I don't read them as they don't concern me, I do not respond to WUM's. You could watch this and it explains everything about the non person to who you refer. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=C3Zn3M-WM zM Then decide who is pulling the strings.
By replying I suspect I have made his night but each to their own.

Didn't watch it but from the still I see where you are coming from. Perhaps we will meet one day ! Prediction League gathering perhaps (hint, hint Sapfan)

But then again according to Joey...

COYMR

harley red says...
12:49am Wed 3 Oct 12

does this mean fortress is crumbling i getting a bit fed up with PDC why cant heplay a winning team,why so many changes it is a crap idea ,what i would give to have a normal maneger.

the wizard says...
12:52am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
the wizard wrote: Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref ! I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid. No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.  We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs. Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Hello Me !!!
???????????????????? ??????????? Please explain.
See the Joey Butler posts above.
I don't read them as they don't concern me, I do not respond to WUM's. You could watch this and it explains everything about the non person to who you refer. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=C3Zn3M-WM zM Then decide who is pulling the strings.
By replying I suspect I have made his night but each to their own.

Didn't watch it but from the still I see where you are coming from. Perhaps we will meet one day ! Prediction League gathering perhaps (hint, hint Sapfan)

But then again according to Joey...

COYMR
I'll tell you now Oxon, I've just got in from a long drive home from watching the most awful game at CG in years. Worse than the relegation season, because we know there is a core that can do better.
The last thing I need now is to step in on the back end of some idiot posting, not you, just to wind folk up. He is a WUM, constantly just ignore him, and like the famous bird he will fly in ever decreasing circles, and we all know where that destination is, LOL

Watch the link, and decide who you think he is, certainly not me, and I am certainly not you, and now I don't even live close by, not even in Oxon.

Wilesy says...
1:59am Wed 3 Oct 12

Far worse than the Orient game as Orient played some good stuff, Colchester were bang average.

Not one player played well I would score each 5/10 as we did only lose by a set play goal, but our lack of creativity was surprising.

I'm baffled by a number of things

At home, when we need some real creativity and positive drive, how does Navaro play ahead of Ferry??

Last year we had the meanest defence in years, yet Flint is sat in the stands.

At Port Vale last season and Oxford this season Bostock looked light years ahead of anyone else on the pitch, why is he not playing. Unless his fitness has deteriorated dramatically since Oxford I am sure he can manage half an hour!

Devera surely has to start at RB if Nathan is injured, Bessone experiment at RB was not successful.

forzaswindon12 says...
2:03am Wed 3 Oct 12

I dont think devera should have played at RB either. it looks like we could do with a back up RB to n thompson.

Psychedelic Syd says...
7:10am Wed 3 Oct 12

Woeful performance last night and very worrying. Tactics were dire and after a first half of lumping long high balls up for their defenders to mop up with ease we came out second half and did exactly the same. Bessone was poor at Shrewsbury and bad again last night, mind you, other than De Vita (how could he have been subbed?) and Macca, everyone outfield was diabolical. Troy looked very suspect last night and rapidly lost confidence after his dreadful early distribution. I thought he had looked very promising up until last night's game, now I am not so sure. I don't understand how Flint can be persistently ignored, Ward was OK at Shrewsbury but is nothing special, Aden is far more dominant in the air and we needed someone like that last night as the ball seemed to spend 50% of the game at head height or higher. We lack speed on the flanks. Ritchie is easily shut out of the game without a good overlapping full back and supportive midfielder like Si to draw players away from him. Roberts when he plays has skill but hasn't got the speed to get away from the p;layers he has beaten and his tackling is almost non-existent. 50:50 balls - forget it! Andy Williams had a poor night, nothing seemed to work for him and Benson was similarly off. Collins does not look like the answer either, smart piece of business by Shrewsbury. Depressing game all round. Hope to goodness that Bostock gets his chance soon and that young Nathan is fit again. Our midfield is sadly lacking when Miller/Navarro start together - their combined age is 64 and age is telling on them both. Apologies for being so negative, very down after that performance.

old town robin says...
8:36am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oxon-Red wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Have to say, that has to be as bad as it gets. Colchester were no better than us, but we were so inept, the whole team needs to hold their head in shame. we expect to play the ball on the ground so what do we do but hoof ball. My ratingsfor staerting 11. Wes, did OK - 6 Besonne shocking - 1 Archibald, poor - 3 Macca, best of a poor team - 7 McEverley, did OK - 5 Ritchie, as bad it gets, - 2 Navarro, ditto - 2 Miller, ditto - 2 De Vita, lack of sevice - 4 Williams, shocking - 3 Benson, run out of steam - 4 Subs, no improvement For those that were not there, this has to be as bad a performance as you can imagine, lot of work for Paolo to sort out
Very poor assessment of players at the back. That game today was lost becuase they won the midfield battle. To give 1 to a player that is part of a unit that restricted the opponents to 6 shots all game, 5 of which were either from 20 yards plus or from set pieces, is ridiculous. You may not like him but judge him fairly.

COYMR
My my Oxon-red, you really did get the hump last night, No need to get upset with me giving players low ratings. As for Bessone, how wrong are you, i have no opinions at all about him as a player other than what i have seen. when he covered for Jay at LB I thought he did OK, first time I've seen him at RB and I thought he was shocking and him and troy along side each other looked like complete strangers, both resonsible for giving away the free kick. But wes has to take responsibility for setting up his wall, so in answer to your other comment I'll mark him down to 5.

We all see the game differently and if you want to mark Bessone higher fine, but please let me know one thing he did right last night, because I must have missed it.

Oi Den! says...
11:31am Wed 3 Oct 12

Have to say I agree with OTR. The only player in the back four to emerge with any credit was McCormack - and he was far from his best. Not sure about them restricting the opposition to 5 or 6 chances either. The opposition was very spirited but hardly adventurous. I bet if you'd offered them half a dozen chances, long range or otherwise, before the game they'd have bitten your hand off.
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At the moment, I continue to believe our best back four is Thompson, Flint, McCormack and McEveley.

old town robin says...
11:41am Wed 3 Oct 12

Oi Den! wrote:
Have to say I agree with OTR. The only player in the back four to emerge with any credit was McCormack - and he was far from his best. Not sure about them restricting the opposition to 5 or 6 chances either. The opposition was very spirited but hardly adventurous. I bet if you'd offered them half a dozen chances, long range or otherwise, before the game they'd have bitten your hand off.
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At the moment, I continue to believe our best back four is Thompson, Flint, McCormack and McEveley.
Oi Den, agree with you on our best back 4 and have posted the same on another thtread

Malkym says...
12:35pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Woeful performance last night and very worrying. Tactics were dire and after a first half of lumping long high balls up for their defenders to mop up with ease we came out second half and did exactly the same. Bessone was poor at Shrewsbury and bad again last night, mind you, other than De Vita (how could he have been subbed?) and Macca, everyone outfield was diabolical. Troy looked very suspect last night and rapidly lost confidence after his dreadful early distribution. I thought he had looked very promising up until last night's game, now I am not so sure. I don't understand how Flint can be persistently ignored, Ward was OK at Shrewsbury but is nothing special, Aden is far more dominant in the air and we needed someone like that last night as the ball seemed to spend 50% of the game at head height or higher. We lack speed on the flanks. Ritchie is easily shut out of the game without a good overlapping full back and supportive midfielder like Si to draw players away from him. Roberts when he plays has skill but hasn't got the speed to get away from the p;layers he has beaten and his tackling is almost non-existent. 50:50 balls - forget it! Andy Williams had a poor night, nothing seemed to work for him and Benson was similarly off. Collins does not look like the answer either, smart piece of business by Shrewsbury. Depressing game all round. Hope to goodness that Bostock gets his chance soon and that young Nathan is fit again. Our midfield is sadly lacking when Miller/Navarro start together - their combined age is 64 and age is telling on them both. Apologies for being so negative, very down after that performance.
Syd - not so much negative as telling it like it is -as most seem to have done apart from one or two perennial rose tinters, and yes we all see the game differently but there cannot be one Town fan who can say they were even mildly impressed by that showing. Paolo has summed it up perfectly - we are average and sometimes we only perform to an average level or as well as the opposition lets us play which was zilch last night and they fully deserved their victory because they sussed we do not have a plan B.

Agree that Macca and RdV were the only noteworthy contributors and Wes to a slightly lesser degree for not setting the wall up very well.

There is no crisis but the alarm bells are just perhaps starting to chime because we can all see where the glaring holes are starting to develop.

I'm going to bang the Flint drum again too - have done all season -willdo all season - TAH has to improve drastically IMO to make me stop.

Wilesy says...
1:39pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Malkym wrote:
Psychedelic Syd wrote: Woeful performance last night and very worrying. Tactics were dire and after a first half of lumping long high balls up for their defenders to mop up with ease we came out second half and did exactly the same. Bessone was poor at Shrewsbury and bad again last night, mind you, other than De Vita (how could he have been subbed?) and Macca, everyone outfield was diabolical. Troy looked very suspect last night and rapidly lost confidence after his dreadful early distribution. I thought he had looked very promising up until last night's game, now I am not so sure. I don't understand how Flint can be persistently ignored, Ward was OK at Shrewsbury but is nothing special, Aden is far more dominant in the air and we needed someone like that last night as the ball seemed to spend 50% of the game at head height or higher. We lack speed on the flanks. Ritchie is easily shut out of the game without a good overlapping full back and supportive midfielder like Si to draw players away from him. Roberts when he plays has skill but hasn't got the speed to get away from the p;layers he has beaten and his tackling is almost non-existent. 50:50 balls - forget it! Andy Williams had a poor night, nothing seemed to work for him and Benson was similarly off. Collins does not look like the answer either, smart piece of business by Shrewsbury. Depressing game all round. Hope to goodness that Bostock gets his chance soon and that young Nathan is fit again. Our midfield is sadly lacking when Miller/Navarro start together - their combined age is 64 and age is telling on them both. Apologies for being so negative, very down after that performance.
Syd - not so much negative as telling it like it is -as most seem to have done apart from one or two perennial rose tinters, and yes we all see the game differently but there cannot be one Town fan who can say they were even mildly impressed by that showing. Paolo has summed it up perfectly - we are average and sometimes we only perform to an average level or as well as the opposition lets us play which was zilch last night and they fully deserved their victory because they sussed we do not have a plan B. Agree that Macca and RdV were the only noteworthy contributors and Wes to a slightly lesser degree for not setting the wall up very well. There is no crisis but the alarm bells are just perhaps starting to chime because we can all see where the glaring holes are starting to develop. I'm going to bang the Flint drum again too - have done all season -willdo all season - TAH has to improve drastically IMO to make me stop.
I'm with you on that Malkym, I can't understand for the life of me how Flint is fourth choice defender. Having one centre back who wins 99% of his headers is essential. Two would be better. I would also think about moving Macca out of the back four, and partnering Flint with TAH or Ward. Let the other outfielders weave their Fantasy Football magic, centrebacks are there to get stuck in and snuff out the opposition, in my opinion.

Davidsyrett says...
2:37pm Wed 3 Oct 12

harley red wrote:
does this mean fortress is crumbling i getting a bit fed up with PDC why cant heplay a winning team,why so many changes it is a crap idea ,what i would give to have a normal maneger.
I would start getting an education first!

Oi Den! says...
4:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Wilesy wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Psychedelic Syd wrote: Woeful performance last night and very worrying. Tactics were dire and after a first half of lumping long high balls up for their defenders to mop up with ease we came out second half and did exactly the same. Bessone was poor at Shrewsbury and bad again last night, mind you, other than De Vita (how could he have been subbed?) and Macca, everyone outfield was diabolical. Troy looked very suspect last night and rapidly lost confidence after his dreadful early distribution. I thought he had looked very promising up until last night's game, now I am not so sure. I don't understand how Flint can be persistently ignored, Ward was OK at Shrewsbury but is nothing special, Aden is far more dominant in the air and we needed someone like that last night as the ball seemed to spend 50% of the game at head height or higher. We lack speed on the flanks. Ritchie is easily shut out of the game without a good overlapping full back and supportive midfielder like Si to draw players away from him. Roberts when he plays has skill but hasn't got the speed to get away from the p;layers he has beaten and his tackling is almost non-existent. 50:50 balls - forget it! Andy Williams had a poor night, nothing seemed to work for him and Benson was similarly off. Collins does not look like the answer either, smart piece of business by Shrewsbury. Depressing game all round. Hope to goodness that Bostock gets his chance soon and that young Nathan is fit again. Our midfield is sadly lacking when Miller/Navarro start together - their combined age is 64 and age is telling on them both. Apologies for being so negative, very down after that performance.
Syd - not so much negative as telling it like it is -as most seem to have done apart from one or two perennial rose tinters, and yes we all see the game differently but there cannot be one Town fan who can say they were even mildly impressed by that showing. Paolo has summed it up perfectly - we are average and sometimes we only perform to an average level or as well as the opposition lets us play which was zilch last night and they fully deserved their victory because they sussed we do not have a plan B. Agree that Macca and RdV were the only noteworthy contributors and Wes to a slightly lesser degree for not setting the wall up very well. There is no crisis but the alarm bells are just perhaps starting to chime because we can all see where the glaring holes are starting to develop. I'm going to bang the Flint drum again too - have done all season -willdo all season - TAH has to improve drastically IMO to make me stop.
I'm with you on that Malkym, I can't understand for the life of me how Flint is fourth choice defender. Having one centre back who wins 99% of his headers is essential. Two would be better. I would also think about moving Macca out of the back four, and partnering Flint with TAH or Ward. Let the other outfielders weave their Fantasy Football magic, centrebacks are there to get stuck in and snuff out the opposition, in my opinion.
Spot on fellas.

mikek says...
8:19pm Wed 3 Oct 12

the wizard wrote:
Far too many negatives about this game to list. Woeful, lacking and flippin' clueless, and that was just the ref !

I was right to ask about Bessone last night, Best Gone, no wonder Swansea were glad to get rid.

No plan B then Canioman, sorry but more like Paolo de Crappio tonight. I cannot see any defence for this lack of performance.
 We fight for the ball, get it, and then hoof it into the air, kicking away possession, time after time after time. Now we have short corners, and whose brain child is that, total rubbish, put the ball in the box from the corner, anything else is second best, like we were tonight. This is the second game in a short space of time when we have dregged the bottom of the barrell. And some of this lot want to play against Villa ?? in their dreams. If this is the result of being on a cup run, then store it somewhere dark. The league must be our top priority, at all costs.
Sorry for the rant chaps but annoyed, disapointed, angry and feel very let down . If I was the manager I would have had them back out on the pitch practicing passing till midnight, because during the game they had forgotten how.
Totally agree Wiz no plan B and Colchester did their homework and 5 in midfield nullified our wingers and their closing down play was excellent and so we had no time on the ball.Obviously the worry will be other teams watching this and the Orient game will try and copy this and then we will be in trouble. One massive appeal to Mr Di Canio is get Aden Flint back in the side wins 95 % of his headers and commands his area unlike TAH last night who was very poor and his distribution was even worse. After seeing TAH and Ward I have no doubt that Flint is by far the best out of the three and McCormack picks himself at the moment although as others say I would like to see Flint paired with Ward or TAH amd beef up the midfield with Macca as last night we were totally over run. Surely though as a manager Paolo must have noted we were getting nowhere and should have bought Bostock on and matched their 5 in the middle to combat their tactics.We could easily have taken off Bessone who was shocking and gone three at the back last 15 mins. Come on Paolo don't start doing a Wilson another guy who had no plan B.

the wizard says...
8:37pm Wed 3 Oct 12

mikek,

After being ridiculed today by some I was beginning to wonder. I think I was more fired up than any of the players when I left the DR last night, bordering on furious. Indeed, one of the stewards took one look and said for me to calm down before driving, good job we know each other, FLIPPIN 'ECK I was seething. Angry don't come close. As you say, what has Bostock got to do to get a game. last night it had his name written on it, but Canioman just did a Wilson and sat there. Why didn't Bessone get pulled off the pitch in the first half, well if you started on one where would you stop, and you are only allowed three. Miller and Navarro are NOT the answer, Bob Hope and No Hope, flippin useless. If Canioman says he has the pride and passion then sorry as a half Italian myself I'm surely entitled to some of my own, even if I am 60, but hey Canioman, at least my hair is still growing !!!!
Seriously, he has to take the blame, he put out the wrong team, wrong formation and wrong tactics, but the biggest wrong was, he did NOTHING to change it to match them, so Paolo di Crappio he is. He expects others to change, but is unwilling to do so himself, as the great Compo would say, Thou's a Pi##ock.

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