Gillingham 5 - Swindon Town 0 (From Swindon Advertiser)

redplymouth wrote:
2.nil. wander if we will sign trundle???

Mighty Reds wrote:
All talk about forwards, seems to me defense is still rubbish, even though we thought we made some good defensive signings..

Fitton is dreaming if he think we'll finish near the plays-off's. no chance.

stfc Newton Abbot wrote:
anybody having problems with stfc player????

Inky wrote:
Put an offer in for Simone Jackson

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

Best post I've read. What are these people going to say now!!!!!!

tommyg wrote:

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

Best post I've read. What are these people going to say now!!!!!!

i don't want to people to think that I am happy with the result, because I am not. however, it is the first day of the season and this result has no bearing on the rest of the year. remember, we beat tranmere 3-1 this time last year and we were nearly relegated and they nearly made the playoffs. still 45 games to go so things can only get better.

also, everyone gets badly beaten sometimes, gillingham conceded 7 against shrewsbury last season

also, bullyfish, saying that you aere glad that you did not get a season ticket after one performance is a ridiculous statement. also, as you clearly were not at the game, how do you know Lucas is a s*it keeper, i will save my judgement till after the football league show. you, sir, are as much as a shambles as this result. as stfcjames rightly said, one poor result does not make a poor season. interesting to see wether you would be so pleased when we start wining. a true supporter would never make comments like yours so clearly you are not one. a true supporter would support town throug thick and think, so clearly you are not one. can't wait to turn things around over the next few games

one thing, i agree that the striker situation needs to be sorted in the next few days

stfcjames wrote:


Ok lets snap Henri Camara up on free transfer and then get Febian Brandy in on loan.

Inky wrote:
Be interesting to read the posts of those who went to the game.

grim reapers gone wrote:
bad choice of managers from a poor chairman. suprise package. its about time all you lot took off your rose tinted glasses. this managers form is carrying over from last year.dont say its only the first game "rubbish"dont forget we only got wilson because he got sacked the week we was looking for a manager,and he was second choice. 3 months to look for a forward yet alone 2. as i said time and time again its the season ticket holders who get the bum deal because in about 10 games time they will be giving tickets away cheap again.how are you going to lift the players after that craaaap.losing becomes a habit, same as winning.

chubbslovesbeer wrote:
norwich 0 colchester 4 so far, this league will be interesting this season

tommyg wrote:

chubbslovesbeer wrote: norwich 0 colchester 4 so far, this league will be interesting this season

hey, we may not suffer the worst defeat of the weekend!

tommyg wrote:

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

Best post I've read. What are these people going to say now!!!!!!

i don't want to people to think that I am happy with the result, because I am not. however, it is the first day of the season and this result has no bearing on the rest of the year. remember, we beat tranmere 3-1 this time last year and we were nearly relegated and they nearly made the playoffs. still 45 games to go so things can only get better.

also, everyone gets badly beaten sometimes, gillingham conceded 7 against shrewsbury last season

also, bullyfish, saying that you aere glad that you did not get a season ticket after one performance is a ridiculous statement. also, as you clearly were not at the game, how do you know Lucas is a s*it keeper, i will save my judgement till after the football league show. you, sir, are as much as a shambles as this result. as stfcjames rightly said, one poor result does not make a poor season. interesting to see wether you would be so pleased when we start wining. a true supporter would never make comments like yours so clearly you are not one. a true supporter would support town throug thick and think, so clearly you are not one. can't wait to turn things around over the next few games

one thing, i agree that the striker situation needs to be sorted in the next few days

bullyfish wrote:

tommyg wrote:

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

Best post I've read. What are these people going to say now!!!!!!

i don't want to people to think that I am happy with the result, because I am not. however, it is the first day of the season and this result has no bearing on the rest of the year. remember, we beat tranmere 3-1 this time last year and we were nearly relegated and they nearly made the playoffs. still 45 games to go so things can only get better.

also, everyone gets badly beaten sometimes, gillingham conceded 7 against shrewsbury last season

also, bullyfish, saying that you aere glad that you did not get a season ticket after one performance is a ridiculous statement. also, as you clearly were not at the game, how do you know Lucas is a s*it keeper, i will save my judgement till after the football league show. you, sir, are as much as a shambles as this result. as stfcjames rightly said, one poor result does not make a poor season. interesting to see wether you would be so pleased when we start wining. a true supporter would never make comments like yours so clearly you are not one. a true supporter would support town throug thick and think, so clearly you are not one. can't wait to turn things around over the next few games

one thing, i agree that the striker situation needs to be sorted in the next few days

no tommy g of course im not a fan have been a season ticket holder since 1976..FACT 1st year i have not been able to AFFORD one due to job loss so please have some respect for a REAL town fan i listened to commentary on bbc kent we were shambolic....FACT leeds fans should know about lucas....FACT i am just vetting my frustrations out as i am GUTTED by this result......and i think i have every right to express my view HOPEFULLY we will improve but i really fear for this season

tommyg wrote:
rovers are losing at home to orient now, my day is starting to look up a bit!

tommyg wrote:
rovers are losing at home to orient now, my day is starting to look up a bit!

tommyg wrote:

grim reapers gone wrote: bad choice of managers from a poor chairman. suprise package. its about time all you lot took off your rose tinted glasses. this managers form is carrying over from last year.dont say its only the first game "rubbish"dont forget we only got wilson because he got sacked the week we was looking for a manager,and he was second choice. 3 months to look for a forward yet alone 2. as i said time and time again its the season ticket holders who get the bum deal because in about 10 games time they will be giving tickets away cheap again.how are you going to lift the players after that craaaap.losing becomes a habit, same as winning.

you're at home to york today, shouldn't you be at the game? it's still nil-nil by the way

Mighty Reds wrote:
Not interested in other teams, WE WERE CRAP end of.

Stratton Red wrote:
What can you say... was pilloried yesterday for being concerned about starting the season with one striker and having an amatuerish mutli millionaire / billionaire chairmen trying to do everything on a shoestring and we start the season with a 5-0 thrashing by a seemingly mediocre L1 team. Can't believe the crap I'm reading about Tranmere losing 3-1 but then almost making the play-offs last season, some people have there heads up their ar ses! Like I said in a few post to those suggesting that shoring up the defence (greerer etc) would in some way compensate for Cox going, you defend from the front, so it doesn't matter how good your defence is, if you're impotent in attack you will lose games week in week out. It doesn't feel good being right...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
All the usual people eh!? Moan moan moan, glad I haven't got a seasno ticket... what good supporters you are...NOT!! Come on folks...yes it is a rubbish result but...we won 3-1 at home to Tranmere last year and most of the same people were saying how great we looked... on the contrary it was not a good display but we got lucky with the early goals. Put this one down to experience, get the defence sorted and vnerves cleared, then lets get on and win a game or two.

tommyg wrote:

Stratton Red wrote: What can you say... was pilloried yesterday for being concerned about starting the season with one striker and having an amatuerish mutli millionaire / billionaire chairmen trying to do everything on a shoestring and we start the season with a 5-0 thrashing by a seemingly mediocre L1 team. Can't believe the crap I'm reading about Tranmere losing 3-1 but then almost making the play-offs last season, some people have there heads up their ar ses! Like I said in a few post to those suggesting that shoring up the defence (greerer etc) would in some way compensate for Cox going, you defend from the front, so it doesn't matter how good your defence is, if you're impotent in attack you will lose games week in week out. It doesn't feel good being right...

i don't think anyone said that the defense would compensate for having no strikers. clearly we need some. what people were saying that a tighter defense (which i feel will come) would take the pressre of the strikers, meaning we will not need someone like cox to save us every game. also, we were so good at defending from the front last year weren't we re. tranmere, what I am saying when i use that an example is that the first game IS NOT AN INDICATION OF THE WHOLE SEASON finally, fitton has brought all of our squad on a shoestring. 3 of our 6 signings cost transfer fees and don't forget the wages that we are paying players such as douglas and greer maybe you should get your head out of your a*se and read people comments correctly, rather than reading them in your own stlye so you can be a persistant moaner, you moron ps. barry corr has been sent off for exeter at leeds, it seems when he is not injured, he is suspended

Stratton Red wrote:

tommyg wrote:

Stratton Red wrote: What can you say... was pilloried yesterday for being concerned about starting the season with one striker and having an amatuerish mutli millionaire / billionaire chairmen trying to do everything on a shoestring and we start the season with a 5-0 thrashing by a seemingly mediocre L1 team. Can't believe the crap I'm reading about Tranmere losing 3-1 but then almost making the play-offs last season, some people have there heads up their ar ses! Like I said in a few post to those suggesting that shoring up the defence (greerer etc) would in some way compensate for Cox going, you defend from the front, so it doesn't matter how good your defence is, if you're impotent in attack you will lose games week in week out. It doesn't feel good being right...

i don't think anyone said that the defense would compensate for having no strikers. clearly we need some. what people were saying that a tighter defense (which i feel will come) would take the pressre of the strikers, meaning we will not need someone like cox to save us every game. also, we were so good at defending from the front last year weren't we re. tranmere, what I am saying when i use that an example is that the first game IS NOT AN INDICATION OF THE WHOLE SEASON finally, fitton has brought all of our squad on a shoestring. 3 of our 6 signings cost transfer fees and don't forget the wages that we are paying players such as douglas and greer maybe you should get your head out of your a*se and read people comments correctly, rather than reading them in your own stlye so you can be a persistant moaner, you moron ps. barry corr has been sent off for exeter at leeds, it seems when he is not injured, he is suspended

Just no point trying to reason with idiots like you taht clearly know nothing about the game so I'm not going to waste my time.

the_gloves wrote:
I,ve been a big suppotrer of DW since day 1 and still am but I think tactically he made some mistakes today. Macnamee shouldn't have played up front 1st half. He is much better out wide and was the only player in my opnion to come away with any credit whe he was moved there in 2nd half. Amankwah is useless as a winger cause he just runs out of space everytime. He should have been right back cause Cuthbert was clarly not match fit. I think JPM would have been a better option in midfield to provide a bit of creativity. DW however was not helped by some awful individual performances...Greer and Lescinal being the main culprits. I think its a bit unfair to blame Lucas. Not a lot he could have done about goals and pulled off one cracking save. I think this is just a freak performance. Anyone who has seen these players before know that they are better than this. I'll still be there on Tuesday night because I believe in this team. However, another performance like this in the near future and serious questions will need to be answered. P.S. We now desperatly need other options upfront.

stfcjames wrote:
waghorn just scored for leicester

mikek wrote:

the_gloves wrote:
I,ve been a big suppotrer of DW since day 1 and still am but I think tactically he made some mistakes today. Macnamee shouldn't have played up front 1st half. He is much better out wide and was the only player in my opnion to come away with any credit whe he was moved there in 2nd half. Amankwah is useless as a winger cause he just runs out of space everytime. He should have been right back cause Cuthbert was clarly not match fit. I think JPM would have been a better option in midfield to provide a bit of creativity. DW however was not helped by some awful individual performances...Greer and Lescinal being the main culprits. I think its a bit unfair to blame Lucas. Not a lot he could have done about goals and pulled off one cracking save. I think this is just a freak performance. Anyone who has seen these players before know that they are better than this. I'll still be there on Tuesday night because I believe in this team. However, another performance like this in the near future and serious questions will need to be answered. P.S. We now desperatly need other options upfront.

Well said mate totally agree with that. I believe Danny may have been guilty of some experimenting and we got blitzed from their 5 in midfield tactic and worry was that we never answered it and folded alarmingly. Just hope it was one of those freak results like Norwich 5-0 down at home.

Inky wrote:

mikek wrote:

the_gloves wrote: I,ve been a big suppotrer of DW since day 1 and still am but I think tactically he made some mistakes today. Macnamee shouldn't have played up front 1st half. He is much better out wide and was the only player in my opnion to come away with any credit whe he was moved there in 2nd half. Amankwah is useless as a winger cause he just runs out of space everytime. He should have been right back cause Cuthbert was clarly not match fit. I think JPM would have been a better option in midfield to provide a bit of creativity. DW however was not helped by some awful individual performances...Greer and Lescinal being the main culprits. I think its a bit unfair to blame Lucas. Not a lot he could have done about goals and pulled off one cracking save. I think this is just a freak performance. Anyone who has seen these players before know that they are better than this. I'll still be there on Tuesday night because I believe in this team. However, another performance like this in the near future and serious questions will need to be answered. P.S. We now desperatly need other options upfront.

Well said mate totally agree with that. I believe Danny may have been guilty of some experimenting and we got blitzed from their 5 in midfield tactic and worry was that we never answered it and folded alarmingly. Just hope it was one of those freak results like Norwich 5-0 down at home.

DW is renowned for his tinkering and strange tactics = have some BCFC friends who said this ages ago.Also Hartlepool fans have said the same. Colchester now 6 goals

mikek wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote: All the usual people eh!? Moan moan moan, glad I haven't got a seasno ticket... what good supporters you are...NOT!! Come on folks...yes it is a rubbish result but...we won 3-1 at home to Tranmere last year and most of the same people were saying how great we looked... on the contrary it was not a good display but we got lucky with the early goals. Put this one down to experience, get the defence sorted and vnerves cleared, then lets get on and win a game or two.

Absolutely bang on SAPfan.Yes very shocked and just wondering why we folded like a pack of cards but hardly the time to come out with all this told you so garbage. Real fans would try and put matters into perspective and evaluate just what happened to our team instead of throwing insults around. No excuses we were diabolical but one game certainly is no time for making accusations and judgements they should be saved for Christmas time or after. No one really expected that result so where did it come from. Reality is many Town fans are shocked as will big spending Norwich fans who are 5-0 down at home to Colchester. These type of results are freak to say the least and I would expect Danny and the Town to bounce back in the right manner. Its all to easy to blame the striker situation but would Rooney have made any difference or Billy Sharp made any difference who really knows. Gillingham had a game plan with 5 in midfield and we could not cope and actually got worse as the game went on and folded. I will reserve judgement and still support AF and Danny and just hope this was a blip. Good thing that we have 4 Goalkeepers suspect that we are going to need them after this.

tommyg wrote:
7-1 now at norwich

chubbslovesbeer wrote:
yeah not the worst result of the day,fair play to colchester thats how u start an opening day fixture.

tommyg wrote:

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

Best post I've read. What are these people going to say now!!!!!!

i don't want to people to think that I am happy with the result, because I am not. however, it is the first day of the season and this result has no bearing on the rest of the year. remember, we beat tranmere 3-1 this time last year and we were nearly relegated and they nearly made the playoffs. still 45 games to go so things can only get better.

also, everyone gets badly beaten sometimes, gillingham conceded 7 against shrewsbury last season

also, bullyfish, saying that you aere glad that you did not get a season ticket after one performance is a ridiculous statement. also, as you clearly were not at the game, how do you know Lucas is a s*it keeper, i will save my judgement till after the football league show. you, sir, are as much as a shambles as this result. as stfcjames rightly said, one poor result does not make a poor season. interesting to see wether you would be so pleased when we start wining. a true supporter would never make comments like yours so clearly you are not one. a true supporter would support town throug thick and think, so clearly you are not one. can't wait to turn things around over the next few games

one thing, i agree that the striker situation needs to be sorted in the next few days

Tosh Man wrote:

tommyg wrote:

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:
To all those who were posting pre-match not to worry that even though we had not signed strikers, we bought 'quality' players and that our defence was solid......whats the excuse now....good job Gilingham had players out otherwise they would have double figures !!!!!!!

Best post I've read. What are these people going to say now!!!!!!

i don't want to people to think that I am happy with the result, because I am not. however, it is the first day of the season and this result has no bearing on the rest of the year. remember, we beat tranmere 3-1 this time last year and we were nearly relegated and they nearly made the playoffs. still 45 games to go so things can only get better.

also, everyone gets badly beaten sometimes, gillingham conceded 7 against shrewsbury last season

also, bullyfish, saying that you aere glad that you did not get a season ticket after one performance is a ridiculous statement. also, as you clearly were not at the game, how do you know Lucas is a s*it keeper, i will save my judgement till after the football league show. you, sir, are as much as a shambles as this result. as stfcjames rightly said, one poor result does not make a poor season. interesting to see wether you would be so pleased when we start wining. a true supporter would never make comments like yours so clearly you are not one. a true supporter would support town throug thick and think, so clearly you are not one. can't wait to turn things around over the next few games

one thing, i agree that the striker situation needs to be sorted in the next few days

This result has no bearing on the rest of the season? What a load of sh=t. If we go down 3 points short then yes it does have a bearing on the rest of the season. EVERY point is vital and to start your season without strikers in totally unacceptable. I think you forget how close it was last year - 3 points is totally vital.

madterrier wrote:
Are we people who voiced concerns at lack of striker signings and a squad full of goalkeepers allowed to speak now without being smacked back down??

Seems to me that Swindon fans fall into three broad categories...

1. So grateful to Fitton and new regime for saving the club that it doesn't matter what happens, what peoples' opinions are, just be grateful we still have a club etc.

2. Fully trust Danny Wilson to sort it out, give him time to build his own team.

3. Less than excited by appointment of DW, grateful to but concerend that new regime see this as a 'project' to demonstrate that you run a lowly club properly and balance the books, but completley baffled by losing four out of five strikers and not signing any.

Well I remain firmly in category 3.
I didn't go to Gillingham as it was too early a kick-off and not living in Swindon have not seen the new signings. You cannot expect owners to throw their own money down the drain at a loss-making club (although nice if they did) which is why you look to the management team for their coaching, scouting, motivational skills, and contacts in the game to bring in loan signings etc. The jury is still very much out for me, but hopefully today was a nasty anomaly and a seriously loud wake-up call.

The result was still a disgrace, and one we won't hear the last of for a long time. Thank God the Rivals.net messageboard is down at the moment.

Inky wrote:
Coxy is on bench for WBA game

chubbslovesbeer wrote:

Inky wrote:
Coxy is on bench for WBA game

Beat u to it m8

bradley red 1 wrote:
wilson you have to take responsibility with your formation and selection,fitton,i applaud you coming forward and saving the club but do you really know what the hell you are doing with transfers you cant do things on the cheap as much as you want too!! thirteen players gone 6 in??? those players today should be back in for training in the morning obviously not prepared,getting turned over like we did today!!! bloody joke....

burgerboys wrote:
dont let stid catch you giving ine sided opinions! he'll kill you!

laurie38 wrote:
see that MK Dons have just signes micheal bridges on a non contract pay as you play deal.......something we should have thought of......

Gills_Fan wrote:
Ok, I am a Gills fan and was at the game today, let me tell you what happened. Your defence is very poor, especially Amankwaah I think his name is, he nearly passed it into his own net. Our winger, Barcham, was running rings round him the whole game! Most of the game your team didn't do too badly, it was just that today, everything we tried worked...

Such as the first goal, Nutter playing an 80 yard pass which happened to find Jackson, who took it first-time impeccably(One of the few things he is usually not good at) and managed to find Bentley unmarked.

Your midfield is ok, O'Brien down the wing looks very good. But you definitely need a striker, Paynter just isn't physical enough, he kept getting outmuscled. On the other hand there were two of your players I was very impressed with, one being the keeper, made some absolutely fantastic saves, one of which got a round of applause from our fans. The other player was McNamee, he looks like a brilliant player, he went past our players time and time again, and at one time he took on four at once and still maanged to come through with the ball!

So look, Swindon fans, I have not come here to boast or pick a fight, I have come here to tell you what happened.

Unityred wrote:
Pop quiz;

How many football league teams have lost there opening fixture 5-0 and NOT gone on to a relegation battle at the end of the season?

Answer;

For all our sakes i hope its only one. Swindon

If only i could believe AF was looking at the bigger picture when he decided to give Cox away for £900,000. He should have trebled his salary, i defy anyone to disagree!

Gills_Fan wrote:
Ok, I am a Gills fan and was at the game today, let me tell you what happened. Your defence is very poor, especially Amankwaah I think his name is, he nearly passed it into his own net. Our winger, Barcham, was running rings round him the whole game! Most of the game your team didn't do too badly, it was just that today, everything we tried worked... Such as the first goal, Nutter playing an 80 yard pass which happened to find Jackson, who took it first-time impeccably(One of the few things he is usually not good at) and managed to find Bentley unmarked. Your midfield is ok, O'Brien down the wing looks very good. But you definitely need a striker, Paynter just isn't physical enough, he kept getting outmuscled. On the other hand there were two of your players I was very impressed with, one being the keeper, made some absolutely fantastic saves, one of which got a round of applause from our fans. The other player was McNamee, he looks like a brilliant player, he went past our players time and time again, and at one time he took on four at once and still maanged to come through with the ball! So look, Swindon fans, I have not come here to boast or pick a fight, I have come here to tell you what happened.

tommyg wrote:

Unityred wrote: Pop quiz; How many football league teams have lost there opening fixture 5-0 and NOT gone on to a relegation battle at the end of the season? Answer; For all our sakes i hope its only one. Swindon If only i could believe AF was looking at the bigger picture when he decided to give Cox away for £900,000. He should have trebled his salary, i defy anyone to disagree!

do you know the actual answer? (just out of interest)

laurie38 wrote:
Seen on sky sports....Adam La Fondre agreed fee with Northampton...anothe

r decent young striker i bet we will be told we only just 'missed' out on.........

Gills_Fan wrote:
Ok, I am a Gills fan and was at the game today, let me tell you what happened. Your defence is very poor, especially Amankwaah I think his name is, he nearly passed it into his own net. Our winger, Barcham, was running rings round him the whole game! Most of the game your team didn't do too badly, it was just that today, everything we tried worked... Such as the first goal, Nutter playing an 80 yard pass which happened to find Jackson, who took it first-time impeccably(One of the few things he is usually not good at) and managed to find Bentley unmarked. Your midfield is ok, O'Brien down the wing looks very good. But you definitely need a striker, Paynter just isn't physical enough, he kept getting outmuscled. On the other hand there were two of your players I was very impressed with, one being the keeper, made some absolutely fantastic saves, one of which got a round of applause from our fans. The other player was McNamee, he looks like a brilliant player, he went past our players time and time again, and at one time he took on four at once and still maanged to come through with the ball! So look, Swindon fans, I have not come here to boast or pick a fight, I have come here to tell you what happened.

swindon30 wrote:
1 striker, u mean 2 at least. I've been slated for moaning all week about the striker situation, enough is enough. Where are all these friends of fitton?? Get your cheque book out if u want us to finish any where near the playoffs.

Biggest surprise us the defence today, shocking

yeti wrote:
malpas out! fitton out! sack the board! wilson must die! we are all doomed!

luckyluke699 wrote:
Some Swindon fans are very fickle indeed.

I was going to start a really long drawn out rant about only dropping 3 points out of 138, or even about us not having any money (10 million in debt, and AF trying to turn around a 1.75 mil per season deficit, on 7500 av gate receipts etc)... but I don't see the point any more after reading some of the comments on here.

I wonder if you would all be so keen to "splash the cash" if it was your own money you were throwing in, while we were still operating at a yearly loss? Maybe not me thinks.

Bad game, bad result. But that's all it is...

luckyluke699 wrote:
Some Swindon fans are very fickle indeed. I was going to start a really long drawn out rant about only dropping 3 points out of 138, or even about us not having any money (10 million in debt, and AF trying to turn around a 1.75 mil per season deficit, on 7500 av gate receipts etc)... but I don't see the point any more after reading some of the comments on here. I wonder if you would all be so keen to "splash the cash" if it was your own money you were throwing in, while we were still operating at a yearly loss? Maybe not me thinks. Bad game, bad result. But that's all it is...

chubbslovesbeer wrote:

luckyluke699 wrote: Some Swindon fans are very fickle indeed. I was going to start a really long drawn out rant about only dropping 3 points out of 138, or even about us not having any money (10 million in debt, and AF trying to turn around a 1.75 mil per season deficit, on 7500 av gate receipts etc)... but I don't see the point any more after reading some of the comments on here. I wonder if you would all be so keen to "splash the cash" if it was your own money you were throwing in, while we were still operating at a yearly loss? Maybe not me thinks. Bad game, bad result. But that's all it is...

yeah fair comments,but we want good game,good result,but we dont dont get it enough thats y we have struggled over the years.

mallorca wrote:
first wiill try to keep short.Its only the first game. Yet with this so called new defence let Gillinghams goal speak for themselves. Looking at this we are no better than last season. To date we let 13 players walk, took in 6 new???? for what. Stripped of our only decent striker, no replacements in sight. AF and DW look at this result and act on it asap. Otherwise DW your players who you said would make us a tigh compact defence have had a bad day. Is clear the defence is no better than what we had, we had no striking option, so AF and board dig deep finanece several new players asap

red dragon wrote:
What do you expect? we get players in 4 free. Why are they free????? because they are - - - - - - - - - - - . Any good & their former clubs wouldve hung onto em. FITTON OUT or put some cash in. You will not get anywhere till you wake up to the real world. Just like SW just a status thing. I OWN a FOOTBALL CLUB so I AM THE BEES KNEES

red and white dynamite wrote:
this was possibly the worst footballing displays iv seen. nobody gave a sheet today, its like we didnt even turn up.... bar amankwaah who i tought tried hard and macklin was ok but the rest of them just couldn't give a toss. what the hell is dw doing starting macca as left forward and o'brien on the left as well. macca was clueless up front and only came into the game when he moved across onto the wing (where he should be) the lack of strikers was apparant today but not the reason we lost so badly. our defence were aweful. the last 4 goals were from the same little ball over the top that we just couldnt defend. if it wasn't for lucas it could have been 6/7 easy. dont think you can blame him for any of the goals! my worry now is who the hell is going to want to sign for swindon after a 5-0 drubbing to a side who will make mid table at best this year..... gillingham were by no means amazing. actually looked pretty average if it wasnt for our shoddy approach to the game. we need strikers fast and dw needs to give the whole team a kick up the jacksie else we'll get destroyed tuesday night!

woolster0 wrote:

red and white dynamite wrote: this was possibly the worst footballing displays iv seen. nobody gave a sheet today, its like we didnt even turn up.... bar amankwaah who i tought tried hard and macklin was ok but the rest of them just couldn't give a toss. what the hell is dw doing starting macca as left forward and o'brien on the left as well. macca was clueless up front and only came into the game when he moved across onto the wing (where he should be) the lack of strikers was apparant today but not the reason we lost so badly. our defence were aweful. the last 4 goals were from the same little ball over the top that we just couldnt defend. if it wasn't for lucas it could have been 6/7 easy. dont think you can blame him for any of the goals! my worry now is who the hell is going to want to sign for swindon after a 5-0 drubbing to a side who will make mid table at best this year..... gillingham were by no means amazing. actually looked pretty average if it wasnt for our shoddy approach to the game. we need strikers fast and dw needs to give the whole team a kick up the jacksie else we'll get destroyed tuesday night!

wot i said in my earlier quote, agree totally, lucas did ok, punting long ball to BP aint gonna work, i felt a bit sorry 4 him,

Tite_Fitt wrote:
It's been about 6 hours since I got back from the game and I'm still in shock! That was one hell of a poor team performance. The back 4 were particularly bad with Greer and Cuthbert continually hoofing the ball forward straight to Gillingham players, unbelievable! I'm hoping that Cuthbert was just not match fit and shouldn't have played because on today's performance he def doesn't look a "quality" signing. I thought our midfield pairing of Timlin and Douglas didn't work. Timlin was dire. This result is a big reality check for Wilson and Fitton. The notion that we can get by with the squad we've got is totally wrong. We can't! Apart from needing couple of strikers, we also need to strengthen midfield and buy a left back. Get your cheque book out AF and spend some of the £900K you got from selling Cox. And no more feeble excuses about missing out on targets, it just won't do!

umpcah wrote:
I am in Cornwall for a few days and am trying not to let this result spoil my weekend ! Danny is no fool and has seen where the problems are and will be discussing them with Af and Shirtliff. No excuses are being made and I still have confidence in this regime. How do you think the Norwich fans feel ? Much the same as us I expect ! Let`s all take some more patience pills

red and white dynamite wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote: It's been about 6 hours since I got back from the game and I'm still in shock! That was one hell of a poor team performance. The back 4 were particularly bad with Greer and Cuthbert continually hoofing the ball forward straight to Gillingham players, unbelievable! I'm hoping that Cuthbert was just not match fit and shouldn't have played because on today's performance he def doesn't look a "quality" signing. I thought our midfield pairing of Timlin and Douglas didn't work. Timlin was dire. This result is a big reality check for Wilson and Fitton. The notion that we can get by with the squad we've got is totally wrong. We can't! Apart from needing couple of strikers, we also need to strengthen midfield and buy a left back. Get your cheque book out AF and spend some of the £900K you got from selling Cox. And no more feeble excuses about missing out on targets, it just won't do!

how did you get back so early???? was on the road by 2.40 and didnt get back to ciren till nearly 7.30

red and white dynamite wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote: It's been about 6 hours since I got back from the game and I'm still in shock! That was one hell of a poor team performance. The back 4 were particularly bad with Greer and Cuthbert continually hoofing the ball forward straight to Gillingham players, unbelievable! I'm hoping that Cuthbert was just not match fit and shouldn't have played because on today's performance he def doesn't look a "quality" signing. I thought our midfield pairing of Timlin and Douglas didn't work. Timlin was dire. This result is a big reality check for Wilson and Fitton. The notion that we can get by with the squad we've got is totally wrong. We can't! Apart from needing couple of strikers, we also need to strengthen midfield and buy a left back. Get your cheque book out AF and spend some of the £900K you got from selling Cox. And no more feeble excuses about missing out on targets, it just won't do!

how did you get back so early???? was on the road by 2.40 and didnt get back to ciren till nearly 7.30

Tite_Fitt wrote:

red and white dynamite wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote: It's been about 6 hours since I got back from the game and I'm still in shock! That was one hell of a poor team performance. The back 4 were particularly bad with Greer and Cuthbert continually hoofing the ball forward straight to Gillingham players, unbelievable! I'm hoping that Cuthbert was just not match fit and shouldn't have played because on today's performance he def doesn't look a "quality" signing. I thought our midfield pairing of Timlin and Douglas didn't work. Timlin was dire. This result is a big reality check for Wilson and Fitton. The notion that we can get by with the squad we've got is totally wrong. We can't! Apart from needing couple of strikers, we also need to strengthen midfield and buy a left back. Get your cheque book out AF and spend some of the £900K you got from selling Cox. And no more feeble excuses about missing out on targets, it just won't do!

how did you get back so early???? was on the road by 2.40 and didnt get back to ciren till nearly 7.30

I live in Essex!

swindon30 wrote:
Look here is the truth how I see it, and I'm sure some people will dissagree but I don't really care. I love this fc and I'm entitled to my say although I hold up my hands for maybe mistaking the players that we bought in for being good signings,Its still early days for them and they are still gelling, I have however said all along we would still need to PURCHASE more players and not just up front, although this is proirty. I'm not sure if it's fitton reluctent to delve into his deep walet, or wether they don't want to pay over the odds or anything else for that matter. Reflecting on the day I really hope this is just a complete one off, and I think even dw would agree that taticly it was a mistake today. I don't think 4-4-1-1 works personaly, and although he was probably our best player today, Macca isn't suited by playing where he was today, and his position changed at every sub made, no wonder he was confused. And ok fair enough dw hand was tied to a certain degree today, but how long have we had to get players in. in my opinion the following players are not good enough LJF, BP, JPM and maybe even timlin although the jury is still out on him Francois sounded like he had a mare today and makes too many mistakes Billy just isn't quick or strong enough JPM lacks effort in my estimation and can be very lazy I've been writing this now for a while now and can't see what I've wrote now on my iPhone so if you don't agree then that's cool, but this is what I think. Lets just hope we can BUY some decent players before next week and put this week well behind us and lets just pretend the seasons starts next weekend

woolster0 wrote:

swindon30 wrote: Look here is the truth how I see it, and I'm sure some people will dissagree but I don't really care. I love this fc and I'm entitled to my say although I hold up my hands for maybe mistaking the players that we bought in for being good signings,Its still early days for them and they are still gelling, I have however said all along we would still need to PURCHASE more players and not just up front, although this is proirty. I'm not sure if it's fitton reluctent to delve into his deep walet, or wether they don't want to pay over the odds or anything else for that matter. Reflecting on the day I really hope this is just a complete one off, and I think even dw would agree that taticly it was a mistake today. I don't think 4-4-1-1 works personaly, and although he was probably our best player today, Macca isn't suited by playing where he was today, and his position changed at every sub made, no wonder he was confused. And ok fair enough dw hand was tied to a certain degree today, but how long have we had to get players in. in my opinion the following players are not good enough LJF, BP, JPM and maybe even timlin although the jury is still out on him Francois sounded like he had a mare today and makes too many mistakes Billy just isn't quick or strong enough JPM lacks effort in my estimation and can be very lazy I've been writing this now for a while now and can't see what I've wrote now on my iPhone so if you don't agree then that's cool, but this is what I think. Lets just hope we can BUY some decent players before next week and put this week well behind us and lets just pretend the seasons starts next weekend

agree

woolster0 wrote:

swindon30 wrote:
Look here is the truth how I see it, and I'm sure some people will dissagree but I don't really care. I love this fc and I'm entitled to my say although I hold up my hands for maybe mistaking the players that we bought in for being good signings,Its still early days for them and they are still gelling, I have however said all along we would still need to PURCHASE more players and not just up front, although this is proirty. I'm not sure if it's fitton reluctent to delve into his deep walet, or wether they don't want to pay over the odds or anything else for that matter. Reflecting on the day I really hope this is just a complete one off, and I think even dw would agree that taticly it was a mistake today. I don't think 4-4-1-1 works personaly, and although he was probably our best player today, Macca isn't suited by playing where he was today, and his position changed at every sub made, no wonder he was confused. And ok fair enough dw hand was tied to a certain degree today, but how long have we had to get players in. in my opinion the following players are not good enough LJF, BP, JPM and maybe even timlin although the jury is still out on him Francois sounded like he had a mare today and makes too many mistakes Billy just isn't quick or strong enough JPM lacks effort in my estimation and can be very lazy I've been writing this now for a while now and can't see what I've wrote now on my iPhone so if you don't agree then that's cool, but this is what I think. Lets just hope we can BUY some decent players before next week and put this week well behind us and lets just pretend the seasons starts next weekend

agree

woolster0 wrote:

swindon30 wrote:
Look here is the truth how I see it, and I'm sure some people will dissagree but I don't really care. I love this fc and I'm entitled to my say although I hold up my hands for maybe mistaking the players that we bought in for being good signings,Its still early days for them and they are still gelling, I have however said all along we would still need to PURCHASE more players and not just up front, although this is proirty. I'm not sure if it's fitton reluctent to delve into his deep walet, or wether they don't want to pay over the odds or anything else for that matter. Reflecting on the day I really hope this is just a complete one off, and I think even dw would agree that taticly it was a mistake today. I don't think 4-4-1-1 works personaly, and although he was probably our best player today, Macca isn't suited by playing where he was today, and his position changed at every sub made, no wonder he was confused. And ok fair enough dw hand was tied to a certain degree today, but how long have we had to get players in. in my opinion the following players are not good enough LJF, BP, JPM and maybe even timlin although the jury is still out on him Francois sounded like he had a mare today and makes too many mistakes Billy just isn't quick or strong enough JPM lacks effort in my estimation and can be very lazy I've been writing this now for a while now and can't see what I've wrote now on my iPhone so if you don't agree then that's cool, but this is what I think. Lets just hope we can BUY some decent players before next week and put this week well behind us and lets just pretend the seasons starts next weekend

agree

stfcpaul wrote:
Just seen the goals on Sky Sports News, Simeon Jackson looked good, could we afford him?

Helpme234 wrote:
Where's "A Tax Payer" when we need him to inspire us? There's a real danger that i'll be having some negative thoughts - God forbid.

A Tax Payer wrote:
I'm here mate. I'll be in my seat next Saturday too, cheering on the team. What'll you be doing? Still 45 games to go. It is a marathon not a sprint.

Helpme234 wrote:

A Tax Payer wrote:
I'm here mate. I'll be in my seat next Saturday too, cheering on the team. What'll you be doing? Still 45 games to go. It is a marathon not a sprint.

I'll be there too. You're right of course about it being a marathon - and i meant no offence!! I expected us to struggle up front but certainly not to that extent in defence. We can only hope that it's a wake up call and Wilson can get the right combination in defence and midfield while we are sorting out some new strikers.

Helpme234 wrote:
Just a few tweaks was all I meant. Perhaps Amankwaah back at full back to be replaced by a more creative midfielder, McNamee back wide, and a specialist full back on the left to support McNamee for starters.

Swindon Till I Die wrote:
Wow, I don't think anyone expected that yesterday. The players DW put out onto the pitch showed no desire to win the second balls and were just happy enough to sit back and invite pressure, which was quite frankly pathetic. Morrison and Greer were a shadow of their best, Cuthbert and Lescinel were atrocious (although Cuthbert clearly wasn't match-fit). Lucas wasn't to blame, not his fault that the defence in front of him totally collapsed. Timlin once again was invisible, Douglas done as much as he could do when he received the ball, O'Brien had a good spell in the first half but he never showed that form after the injury. Amankwaah just isn't a right-mid, poor decision by DW to play him there. McNamee was the only player who looked like making things happen, and Paynter done as much as he could with the awful service he was being provided with.

Very disappointed because I paid good money to watch these so-called footballers put in performances that clearly were no-where near their best, and the lack of commitment made me sick. DW got a lot of decisions with the team selection wrong today and his post-match interview was quite frankly pathetic, I'm a big fan of his but it was like he didn't realise he got the team selection and formation completely wrong. Gotta accept responsibility DW.

What annoys me most is that the players gave some of the fans exactly what they wanted. I've seen lunnyboy's posts on another forum and I can't believe what that mug was saying, he clearly wanted us to lose so that he could prove a point, and there are a few others on here who were doing the same. These so-called fans are an embarrassment to this club.

Back to the result and I'm pretty sure it was just a freak result. The likes of Greer don't become crap overnight. The players, management and the board will see this as a huge kick up the arse and hopefully the players will repay us with good performances on Tuesday and Saturday against MK Dons, and hopefully we'll see some players coming in this week. Yesterday was the best time to have a result like that, and hopefully it will all be forgotten in the next few weeks. COYR.

Swindon Till I Die wrote:
Wow, I don't think anyone expected that yesterday. The players DW put out onto the pitch showed no desire to win the second balls and were just happy enough to sit back and invite pressure, which was quite frankly pathetic. Morrison and Greer were a shadow of their best, Cuthbert and Lescinel were atrocious (although Cuthbert clearly wasn't match-fit). Lucas wasn't to blame, not his fault that the defence in front of him totally collapsed. Timlin once again was invisible, Douglas done as much as he could do when he received the ball, O'Brien had a good spell in the first half but he never showed that form after the injury. Amankwaah just isn't a right-mid, poor decision by DW to play him there. McNamee was the only player who looked like making things happen, and Paynter done as much as he could with the awful service he was being provided with. Very disappointed because I paid good money to watch these so-called footballers put in performances that clearly were no-where near their best, and the lack of commitment made me sick. DW got a lot of decisions with the team selection wrong today and his post-match interview was quite frankly pathetic, I'm a big fan of his but it was like he didn't realise he got the team selection and formation completely wrong. Gotta accept responsibility DW. What annoys me most is that the players gave some of the fans exactly what they wanted. I've seen lunnyboy's posts on another forum and I can't believe what that mug was saying, he clearly wanted us to lose so that he could prove a point, and there are a few others on here who were doing the same. These so-called fans are an embarrassment to this club. Back to the result and I'm pretty sure it was just a freak result. The likes of Greer don't become crap overnight. The players, management and the board will see this as a huge kick up the arse and hopefully the players will repay us with good performances on Tuesday and Saturday against MK Dons, and hopefully we'll see some players coming in this week. Yesterday was the best time to have a result like that, and hopefully it will all be forgotten in the next few weeks. COYR.

Swindon Till I Die wrote:
Wow, I don't think anyone expected that yesterday. The players DW put out onto the pitch showed no desire to win the second balls and were just happy enough to sit back and invite pressure, which was quite frankly pathetic. Morrison and Greer were a shadow of their best, Cuthbert and Lescinel were atrocious (although Cuthbert clearly wasn't match-fit). Lucas wasn't to blame, not his fault that the defence in front of him totally collapsed. Timlin once again was invisible, Douglas done as much as he could do when he received the ball, O'Brien had a good spell in the first half but he never showed that form after the injury. Amankwaah just isn't a right-mid, poor decision by DW to play him there. McNamee was the only player who looked like making things happen, and Paynter done as much as he could with the awful service he was being provided with. Very disappointed because I paid good money to watch these so-called footballers put in performances that clearly were no-where near their best, and the lack of commitment made me sick. DW got a lot of decisions with the team selection wrong today and his post-match interview was quite frankly pathetic, I'm a big fan of his but it was like he didn't realise he got the team selection and formation completely wrong. Gotta accept responsibility DW. What annoys me most is that the players gave some of the fans exactly what they wanted. I've seen lunnyboy's posts on another forum and I can't believe what that mug was saying, he clearly wanted us to lose so that he could prove a point, and there are a few others on here who were doing the same. These so-called fans are an embarrassment to this club. Back to the result and I'm pretty sure it was just a freak result. The likes of Greer don't become crap overnight. The players, management and the board will see this as a huge kick up the arse and hopefully the players will repay us with good performances on Tuesday and Saturday against MK Dons, and hopefully we'll see some players coming in this week. Yesterday was the best time to have a result like that, and hopefully it will all be forgotten in the next few weeks. COYR.

laurie38 wrote:

Swindon Till I Die wrote:
Wow, I don't think anyone expected that yesterday. The players DW put out onto the pitch showed no desire to win the second balls and were just happy enough to sit back and invite pressure, which was quite frankly pathetic. Morrison and Greer were a shadow of their best, Cuthbert and Lescinel were atrocious (although Cuthbert clearly wasn't match-fit). Lucas wasn't to blame, not his fault that the defence in front of him totally collapsed. Timlin once again was invisible, Douglas done as much as he could do when he received the ball, O'Brien had a good spell in the first half but he never showed that form after the injury. Amankwaah just isn't a right-mid, poor decision by DW to play him there. McNamee was the only player who looked like making things happen, and Paynter done as much as he could with the awful service he was being provided with. Very disappointed because I paid good money to watch these so-called footballers put in performances that clearly were no-where near their best, and the lack of commitment made me sick. DW got a lot of decisions with the team selection wrong today and his post-match interview was quite frankly pathetic, I'm a big fan of his but it was like he didn't realise he got the team selection and formation completely wrong. Gotta accept responsibility DW. What annoys me most is that the players gave some of the fans exactly what they wanted. I've seen lunnyboy's posts on another forum and I can't believe what that mug was saying, he clearly wanted us to lose so that he could prove a point, and there are a few others on here who were doing the same. These so-called fans are an embarrassment to this club. Back to the result and I'm pretty sure it was just a freak result. The likes of Greer don't become crap overnight. The players, management and the board will see this as a huge kick up the arse and hopefully the players will repay us with good performances on Tuesday and Saturday against MK Dons, and hopefully we'll see some players coming in this week. Yesterday was the best time to have a result like that, and hopefully it will all be forgotten in the next few weeks. COYR.

This season has got to be all about consolidation and rebuilding...anyone who believes we should be challanging for promotion shoul get a bit more realistic....we will have to rebuild confidence in the club not only for the supporters but prospective signings...we may have lost out on the targets because of STFC recent history.....I have faith that in time DW will get in right.....but our expectations must be realistic.

swindon30 wrote:

laurie38 wrote:

Swindon Till I Die wrote: Wow, I don't think anyone expected that yesterday. The players DW put out onto the pitch showed no desire to win the second balls and were just happy enough to sit back and invite pressure, which was quite frankly pathetic. Morrison and Greer were a shadow of their best, Cuthbert and Lescinel were atrocious (although Cuthbert clearly wasn't match-fit). Lucas wasn't to blame, not his fault that the defence in front of him totally collapsed. Timlin once again was invisible, Douglas done as much as he could do when he received the ball, O'Brien had a good spell in the first half but he never showed that form after the injury. Amankwaah just isn't a right-mid, poor decision by DW to play him there. McNamee was the only player who looked like making things happen, and Paynter done as much as he could with the awful service he was being provided with. Very disappointed because I paid good money to watch these so-called footballers put in performances that clearly were no-where near their best, and the lack of commitment made me sick. DW got a lot of decisions with the team selection wrong today and his post-match interview was quite frankly pathetic, I'm a big fan of his but it was like he didn't realise he got the team selection and formation completely wrong. Gotta accept responsibility DW. What annoys me most is that the players gave some of the fans exactly what they wanted. I've seen lunnyboy's posts on another forum and I can't believe what that mug was saying, he clearly wanted us to lose so that he could prove a point, and there are a few others on here who were doing the same. These so-called fans are an embarrassment to this club. Back to the result and I'm pretty sure it was just a freak result. The likes of Greer don't become crap overnight. The players, management and the board will see this as a huge kick up the arse and hopefully the players will repay us with good performances on Tuesday and Saturday against MK Dons, and hopefully we'll see some players coming in this week. Yesterday was the best time to have a result like that, and hopefully it will all be forgotten in the next few weeks. COYR.

This season has got to be all about consolidation and rebuilding...anyone who believes we should be challanging for promotion shoul get a bit more realistic....we will have to rebuild confidence in the club not only for the supporters but prospective signings...we may have lost out on the targets because of STFC recent history.....I have faith that in time DW will get in right.....but our expectations must be realistic.

Sorry laurie I dissagree. If you werein southamtons position with -10 theni would agree with u. We have to want more than just consiladation, what's the point in all this hype if we just want to plod along and not get anywhere. I do agree though as I've said before, with the squad that we have currently then maybe the club does just want consiladation in this league, otherwise they would have invested in players. Perhaps they want us to belivev all this hype that they want to push for promotion, when deep down they don't want it themselves