Paolo plays down talk of a top-six finish (From Swindon Advertiser)

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Kidoligy Paolo? With a couple of guys back from injury and a couple of loan players in before Jan we will finish top six and then who knows!

tally38 wrote:
when you think of the injuries not alot difference from last years squad we also had two misfiring strickers other than that same side
last two wins difference bostock

graham81 wrote:
oh come on Paolo please. We have the squad to get promoted this season and now more financial backing. It's all about this season in my eyes. Trying to remind every one of his extra season nest egg to get us promoted. Top two finish this season coming in my eyes now get down focus and get us there Paolo you've had enough money to spend

Lanky wrote:

graham81 wrote:
oh come on Paolo please. We have the squad to get promoted this season and now more financial backing. It's all about this season in my eyes. Trying to remind every one of his extra season nest egg to get us promoted. Top two finish this season coming in my eyes now get down focus and get us there Paolo you've had enough money to spend

Hmm do you ever think that perhaps he is trying to take the pressure off the team? That he is actually playing the media games more than people give him credit for?

I think there would be more uproar on here from the moaners if he had said "Anything other than a top two finish will be a disaster"

RAYSPARROW wrote:
Knowing we are going for play-offs helps with crowd numbers/income. Play-offs means a chance of going to Wembley.

Oi Den! wrote:

RAYSPARROW wrote: Knowing we are going for play-offs helps with crowd numbers/income. Play-offs means a chance of going to Wembley.

I don't think we should ever be "going for the play-offs". Of course if we fail to get a place in the top two, the play-offs are there as a back door opportunity for promotion but I don't believe they should ever be a target, unless we have reached the stage where between 3rd and 6th place is the highest we can achieve. . At the moment, the bookies are giving only 2/1 against us getting promotion. If we finish in a play-off spot, the odds will almost certainly be nearer 3/1. In other words, we have more chance of promotion right now than we would have if we finish in play-off spot. . If Tranmere can be top of the table on their meagre budget I don't see why we can't be looking to overhaul them. Most of us believe PDC is a good manager, he believes he is the best manager in the world and the board has given him the opportunity to build a decent squad of players. We should be aiming for the top. . Chance of going to Wembley? For the losers it's horrible. No thanks - let's just get promoted by being good enough. Perhaps we won't turn out to be good enough, but surely we have to try to avoid the end of season lottery that is the play-offs?

RAYSPARROW wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

RAYSPARROW wrote: Knowing we are going for play-offs helps with crowd numbers/income. Play-offs means a chance of going to Wembley.

I don't think we should ever be "going for the play-offs". Of course if we fail to get a place in the top two, the play-offs are there as a back door opportunity for promotion but I don't believe they should ever be a target, unless we have reached the stage where between 3rd and 6th place is the highest we can achieve. . At the moment, the bookies are giving only 2/1 against us getting promotion. If we finish in a play-off spot, the odds will almost certainly be nearer 3/1. In other words, we have more chance of promotion right now than we would have if we finish in play-off spot. . If Tranmere can be top of the table on their meagre budget I don't see why we can't be looking to overhaul them. Most of us believe PDC is a good manager, he believes he is the best manager in the world and the board has given him the opportunity to build a decent squad of players. We should be aiming for the top. . Chance of going to Wembley? For the losers it's horrible. No thanks - let's just get promoted by being good enough. Perhaps we won't turn out to be good enough, but surely we have to try to avoid the end of season lottery that is the play-offs?

What I meant was we should be aiming high yo keep crowds interested.

Oi Den! wrote:

RAYSPARROW wrote: Knowing we are going for play-offs helps with crowd numbers/income. Play-offs means a chance of going to Wembley.

I don't think we should ever be "going for the play-offs". Of course if we fail to get a place in the top two, the play-offs are there as a back door opportunity for promotion but I don't believe they should ever be a target, unless we have reached the stage where between 3rd and 6th place is the highest we can achieve. . At the moment, the bookies are giving only 2/1 against us getting promotion. If we finish in a play-off spot, the odds will almost certainly be nearer 3/1. In other words, we have more chance of promotion right now than we would have if we finish in play-off spot. . If Tranmere can be top of the table on their meagre budget I don't see why we can't be looking to overhaul them. Most of us believe PDC is a good manager, he believes he is the best manager in the world and the board has given him the opportunity to build a decent squad of players. We should be aiming for the top. . Chance of going to Wembley? For the losers it's horrible. No thanks - let's just get promoted by being good enough. Perhaps we won't turn out to be good enough, but surely we have to try to avoid the end of season lottery that is the play-offs?

the wizard wrote:
Oh do come-on Mr Canio, please do behave !!!!!!!!! Justa nowa I am'a think I play a di Zuper Zimon, de Ferry-man at the fronta, caus he is'a de only one-a I canna trusta to score'a de goals. Tongue in cheek enuff Malky ?

Malkym wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Oh do come-on Mr Canio, please do behave !!!!!!!!! Justa nowa I am'a think I play a di Zuper Zimon, de Ferry-man at the fronta, caus he is'a de only one-a I canna trusta to score'a de goals. Tongue in cheek enuff Malky ?

Double spot on from me H(ender) -large pinch of salt please as I said above! mind games ala Fergie being played here - what was the excellent quote on here the other day something like " Believe none of what you read and only half of what you hear!"

RamsburyRed wrote:
There's an interesting implication here that the Board is prepared to invest for a future promotion push, having consolidated in L1 this year.
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Unless this is dependent on new investors coming in, I can't see the logic of deferring it, especially given our current position.

London Red wrote:
Den - Andrew Black has not been forced to put in more than planned
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The budget was and still is £4.5m
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So if £4.3m (based on SWP comments as most of the £500k extra has been "spent") has taken us over 65% limit - then he would have had to put more in anyway to allow that to go up to £4.5m in January as planned
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All it means is he has done it in November instead of January
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Granted we should all be grateful he has given us a healthy budget in the first place - but this injection now is not "new" and would have been planned when the original budget was signed off
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Unless of course revenue has seriously fallen behind budget - which is unlikely to be PdC fault - as the only thing he could be "accountable" for is cup revenue - but if anyone budgets on more than one round they are idiots!

Another view wrote:
His after match surprises are no longer surprises. He should get Grim to do the interviews, and he should concentrate on what he's good at, building a football team.

SeanG92 wrote:
If I remember correctly Roberto Mancini had written City off as champions in January this year, continually saying they were out of it. What happened to them again? Perhaps its and Italian thing? ----------- This is definitely a way of removing some pressure from a young team with some players making their debut season in professional footy (or at least having their first proper season) Paolo knows these guys could buckle under the expectation and pressure that comes with being a team challenging for the top few places, by saying we arent expecting to reach those highs takes that pressure away and gives a sense of overachievement. We all know what Paolo is like, he doesn't settle for anything less then 100%, he doesn't aim for anything less than the best that there is on offer and I am dam well sure tha hasn't changed. What managers say in public, and what they say to their team are very rarely that similar!

SeanG92 wrote:
If I remember correctly Roberto Mancini had written City off as champions in January this year, continually saying they were out of it. What happened to them again? Perhaps its and Italian thing? ----------- This is definitely a way of removing some pressure from a young team with some players making their debut season in professional footy (or at least having their first proper season) Paolo knows these guys could buckle under the expectation and pressure that comes with being a team challenging for the top few places, by saying we arent expecting to reach those highs takes that pressure away and gives a sense of overachievement. We all know what Paolo is like, he doesn't settle for anything less then 100%, he doesn't aim for anything less than the best that there is on offer and I am dam well sure tha hasn't changed. What managers say in public, and what they say to their team are very rarely that similar!

smirg kcab wrote:
here you go paolo ive done some homework for you
The Championship outfit have confirmed that Gabriel Zakuani, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, Emile Sinclair and Tyrone Barnett have all been made available for transfer.

am i right in saying did paolo want barnett from creepie before he went to the posh?
must be better than the two at present surely?
onwards and downwards

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
here you go paolo ive done some homework for you
The Championship outfit have confirmed that Gabriel Zakuani, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, Emile Sinclair and Tyrone Barnett have all been made available for transfer.

am i right in saying did paolo want barnett from creepie before he went to the posh?
must be better than the two at present surely?
onwards and downwards

Tyrone Barnett might be a good shout Grim?seem to remember he was banging a few goals for the Creepies last season!can't be doing it for the Posh though,if he's available now??????

madterrier wrote:
We've got one of the biggest and best squads. The best owners. One of the biggest budgets. Our average attendances are the sixth highest in League One (and two clubs above us are Coventry and Portsmouth). We currently sit in in 6th place. I'm not interested in talking the talk either way, from manager or from players, whether it's bigging up or playing things down. Let's just do it on the pitch. But realistically, we should be aiming for top six. I bet most fans of other clubs would expect us to be there at the end of the season.

EastleazeRed wrote:

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
here you go paolo ive done some homework for you
The Championship outfit have confirmed that Gabriel Zakuani, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, Emile Sinclair and Tyrone Barnett have all been made available for transfer.

am i right in saying did paolo want barnett from creepie before he went to the posh?
must be better than the two at present surely?
onwards and downwards

Tyrone Barnett might be a good shout Grim?seem to remember he was banging a few goals for the Creepies last season!can't be doing it for the Posh though,if he's available now??????

Did'nt they buy Barnet for around a £1000000 ? Out of our price & wage range i think . Anyway if the rumours are true about his and the other players transfer listing , dont think di canio would touch him with a barge pole !

EastleazeRed wrote:

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
here you go paolo ive done some homework for you
The Championship outfit have confirmed that Gabriel Zakuani, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, Emile Sinclair and Tyrone Barnett have all been made available for transfer.

am i right in saying did paolo want barnett from creepie before he went to the posh?
must be better than the two at present surely?
onwards and downwards

Tyrone Barnett might be a good shout Grim?seem to remember he was banging a few goals for the Creepies last season!can't be doing it for the Posh though,if he's available now??????

Did'nt they buy Barnet for around a £1000000 ? Out of our price & wage range i think . Anyway if the rumours are true about his and the other players transfer listing , dont think di canio would touch him with a barge pole !

Oi Den! wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
here you go paolo ive done some homework for you
The Championship outfit have confirmed that Gabriel Zakuani, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, Emile Sinclair and Tyrone Barnett have all been made available for transfer.

am i right in saying did paolo want barnett from creepie before he went to the posh?
must be better than the two at present surely?
onwards and downwards

Tyrone Barnett might be a good shout Grim?seem to remember he was banging a few goals for the Creepies last season!can't be doing it for the Posh though,if he's available now??????

Did'nt they buy Barnet for around a £1000000 ? Out of our price & wage range i think . Anyway if the rumours are true about his and the other players transfer listing , dont think di canio would touch him with a barge pole !

It would be a brave man that buys Barnet for £1m - even if they are a nice friendly little club!

Oi Den! wrote:

RamsburyRed wrote: There's an interesting implication here that the Board is prepared to invest for a future promotion push, having consolidated in L1 this year. * Unless this is dependent on new investors coming in, I can't see the logic of deferring it, especially given our current position.

RR, I don't think that's really what is being said (or left unsaid). My reading of it is that the board are aiming for promotion but will not be too disappointed if we don't make it, given that the original target was to get to the next level within 3 years of PDC's arrival. I think PDC is being told "You've been given the resources you were promised; do what you can with them." They have made it clear that he's not getting any more than the planned £4.5m, most of which is already spoken for. . I agree that we should be pushing on and trying to get up this year. We don't want a repeat of 3 years ago, when our promotion charge ended with a whimper and the best players were allowed to leave. But I don't expect the board to keep throwing money at it to try to ensure we achieve it.. Black has already been generous enough to put more money in this season than was planned, to dig us out of the transfer embargo. There has to be a line drawn somewhere. . In any case, there is no guarantee that spending more on players this season is going to get us promotion. What if Black takes the gamble, puts in another significant amount of cash this season, and we don't make it? We might be left with a big squad that we need to trim for another attempt next season and have a smaller playing budget because we've already taken a chunk of it this season.

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
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His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
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His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

the don69 wrote:
Come on Chaps!it's simple Paolo's playing down our chances,so we don't expect too much,then if we don't make it,it's oh well we'll do better next season,but if he gets us to the promised land of the Championship!he'll be a hero and tell us he's the best Manager since we invented Football!LOL!!!!!!!!

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Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
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His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

Yes but that does not account for the damaging effect he would have in the changing room for team moral etc. We would be near the bottom playing a lot worse than we are and not three points off automatic!

London Red wrote:
Based on the original plan - I Guess it is acase of why put in X in Aug if not needed until Jan?
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If you have the option to pay all now or in six months time (at no extra cost) would your pay now? Most won't - I know I never do!
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Though I think your question there is exactly what PdC was asking!
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Why wait 5 weeks to do it - why not do it straight away and avoid all this fiasco over the past month or so!

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
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His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

mikek wrote:
Rather be talking about the players wearing the shirt of STFC than all this garbage about ex players this and ex players that. That my friends is called history so lets move on and support our players to start banging them in. Leon who?

Oi Den! wrote:

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
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His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

Yes but that does not account for the damaging effect he would have in the changing room for team moral etc. We would be near the bottom playing a lot worse than we are and not three points off automatic!

It's all history now but I don't think there was any indication that he would have been a bad influence on the dressing room or team morale. He just had a barney with PDC - not exactly a rare event at STFC. I still think it's a great shame that the two of them couldn't settle their differences like grown men instead of behaving like petulant schoolkids. I'm convinced Clarke was just the striker we were looking for then and that he'd still have been doing a good job for us now if they had sorted it out. PDC had actually persuaded a player to join us who was too good for that division. I think he could have and should have worked harder to heal the rift.
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Having said all that, I don't believe we have any worries on the striker front. We do need that tough tackling midfielder though. A fit, disciplined and motivated Jonathan Douglas would do nicely.

London Red wrote:
I'm still not sure how you can think that considering we are under the £4.5m budget
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How could we have ever got to that level then without any extra equity?

Oi Den! wrote:

mikek wrote:
Rather be talking about the players wearing the shirt of STFC than all this garbage about ex players this and ex players that. That my friends is called history so lets move on and support our players to start banging them in. Leon who?

Quite right Mike - apologies for the digression.

Oi Den! wrote:
Evening jayden. Fair enough. I wasn't trying to defend the behaviour of either of them. I did say Clarke behaved like a petulant schoolkid and Douglas would fit the bill as our missing midfielder if he was fit, disciplined and motivated - and he was none of those things at the end of his time with us. I think Douglas and Ferry formed one of the finest midfield partnerships we've ever had. I'm not trying to turn the clock back - just saying that they are the type of player we are missing. But I do have faith in our strikers - and I might even have a little more faith in our midfielders than PDC does, judging by the way the ball has been bypassing them lately!

SeanG92 wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:

the don69 wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
here you go paolo ive done some homework for you
The Championship outfit have confirmed that Gabriel Zakuani, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, Emile Sinclair and Tyrone Barnett have all been made available for transfer.

am i right in saying did paolo want barnett from creepie before he went to the posh?
must be better than the two at present surely?
onwards and downwards

Tyrone Barnett might be a good shout Grim?seem to remember he was banging a few goals for the Creepies last season!can't be doing it for the Posh though,if he's available now??????

Did'nt they buy Barnet for around a £1000000 ? Out of our price & wage range i think . Anyway if the rumours are true about his and the other players transfer listing , dont think di canio would touch him with a barge pole !

Exactly! To get transfer listed it has to be a pretty severe breach of club discipline! I dont think thats the sort of guys PDC would want at STFC

Okus Road wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
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His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

No one disputes he is a proven goalscorer but he did not fit into the Paolo way. Get over it.

I still believe that (glass half full) Williams and Collins will come good in 2013

We will finish in the top two with the pair of them hitting double figures

Oi Den! wrote:
Evening jayden. Fair enough. I wasn't trying to defend the behaviour of either of them. I did say Clarke behaved like a petulant schoolkid and Douglas would fit the bill as our missing midfielder if he was fit, disciplined and motivated - and he was none of those things at the end of his time with us. I think Douglas and Ferry formed one of the finest midfield partnerships we've ever had. I'm not trying to turn the clock back - just saying that they are the type of player we are missing. But I do have faith in our strikers - and I might even have a little more faith in our midfielders than PDC does, judging by the way the ball has been bypassing them lately!

mikek wrote:
Man United's young striker Joshua King linked to Town on that silly rumours site where it also says Liverpool are in for Miles Storey in January yes we can swap him for Suarez , blimey I'm getting as bad as some others on this forum. Mind you reckon this Utd player is worth a look and certainly a solid unit and very quick. Question for fellow fans are coloured strikers better than white guy's as it always seems to me they are when you watch footy on the box.

smirg kcab wrote:

Okus Road wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
Leon Clarke has scored 20 goals in just 36 games since he left us little over a year ago.
9 goals in 14 games for Chesterfield
0 goals in 7 for Charlton Ath
1 goal in 3 for Crawley Town
10 goals in 12 for Scunthorpe Utd.
.
His record almost compares with Charlie Austin.

No one disputes he is a proven goalscorer but he did not fit into the Paolo way. Get over it.

I still believe that (glass half full) Williams and Collins will come good in 2013

We will finish in the top two with the pair of them hitting double figures

Okus pericard and dossevi should have been given more time.
Mr foldy arms told us
Onwards and downwards.

smirg kcab wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Evening jayden. Fair enough. I wasn't trying to defend the behaviour of either of them. I did say Clarke behaved like a petulant schoolkid and Douglas would fit the bill as our missing midfielder if he was fit, disciplined and motivated - and he was none of those things at the end of his time with us. I think Douglas and Ferry formed one of the finest midfield partnerships we've ever had. I'm not trying to turn the clock back - just saying that they are the type of player we are missing. But I do have faith in our strikers - and I might even have a little more faith in our midfielders than PDC does, judging by the way the ball has been bypassing them lately!

Den Harold shipman still could have been a great doctor if he was fit motivated and disciplined and you forgot the greed word which both shipman and Douglas was.
Always like your post as you stick on the fence and think before you post, so I take Mondays are not your best day of the week so you can be excused for one bad post.
Onwards and downwards

Oi Den! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Evening jayden. Fair enough. I wasn't trying to defend the behaviour of either of them. I did say Clarke behaved like a petulant schoolkid and Douglas would fit the bill as our missing midfielder if he was fit, disciplined and motivated - and he was none of those things at the end of his time with us. I think Douglas and Ferry formed one of the finest midfield partnerships we've ever had. I'm not trying to turn the clock back - just saying that they are the type of player we are missing. But I do have faith in our strikers - and I might even have a little more faith in our midfielders than PDC does, judging by the way the ball has been bypassing them lately!

Den Harold shipman still could have been a great doctor if he was fit motivated and disciplined and you forgot the greed word which both shipman and Douglas was.
Always like your post as you stick on the fence and think before you post, so I take Mondays are not your best day of the week so you can be excused for one bad post.
Onwards and downwards

And you always give me a chuckle, Grim! You've got a good eye for a player too, and I don't reckon I'd have to try too hard to find some very complimentary remarks from you about Douglas. I'm not sure about the greed, but he was definitely infected with the same malaise as most of the others - unfit, unmotivated and undisciplined. If your mate Mr Foldy had shown some leadership and recognised that every team needs its strong characters, none of them would have sunk to the depths they did.

Malkym wrote:
Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym wrote:
Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote: Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym, I agree they are not scoring in the league but as I said I am not overly worried because other players are scoring. It would be different if it was like our relegation season when we only had one striker who kept us in mid-table until January. Is that what we want ? Twenty goal strikers are great if you can find them but football is a team game. There is a team in the championship currently that look very much like we did two seasons ago. What is the betting on a similar outcome for them ! COYMR

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote: Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym, I agree they are not scoring in the league but as I said I am not overly worried because other players are scoring. It would be different if it was like our relegation season when we only had one striker who kept us in mid-table until January. Is that what we want ? Twenty goal strikers are great if you can find them but football is a team game. There is a team in the championship currently that look very much like we did two seasons ago. What is the betting on a similar outcome for them ! COYMR

OXon - ok -so when the "others" goals dry up and the dream team are still not scoring what then? Aren't we then up the proverbial creek?

joey butler wrote:
With utmost respect guys, most of you are not thinking about the very cause of our problems.

Firstly, PDC should get rid of his absolute leech of an agent, who has continually recommended second rate players. I am sure he gets paid when they join and I am fairly sure his agent gets paid when they leave shortly afterwards!!

The Board must be quite stupid if they cannot see what is going on.

Secondly, The Board should stand up to PDC with his ever increasing threats, the very latest of which are in his comments above.

If PDC does not like it, it is quite simply 'Goodbye and Good luck' PDC.

Am I the only poster on here to read through PDC's repeated threats, or are The Board simply all stupid??

red white wrote:

joey butler wrote:
With utmost respect guys, most of you are not thinking about the very cause of our problems.

Firstly, PDC should get rid of his absolute leech of an agent, who has continually recommended second rate players. I am sure he gets paid when they join and I am fairly sure his agent gets paid when they leave shortly afterwards!!

The Board must be quite stupid if they cannot see what is going on.

Secondly, The Board should stand up to PDC with his ever increasing threats, the very latest of which are in his comments above.

If PDC does not like it, it is quite simply 'Goodbye and Good luck' PDC.

Am I the only poster on here to read through PDC's repeated threats, or are The Board simply all stupid??

That is Paolo's way.
We will rule with him.
Joe Butler was a great player by the way.

Downsborough
Thomas
Trollope,

Butler
Burrows
Harland,

Smith
Smart
Horsefield
Noble
Rogers.

Proper.(not a sub1).

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote: Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym, I agree they are not scoring in the league but as I said I am not overly worried because other players are scoring. It would be different if it was like our relegation season when we only had one striker who kept us in mid-table until January. Is that what we want ? Twenty goal strikers are great if you can find them but football is a team game. There is a team in the championship currently that look very much like we did two seasons ago. What is the betting on a similar outcome for them ! COYMR

OXon - ok -so when the "others" goals dry up and the dream team are still not scoring what then? Aren't we then up the proverbial creek?

joey butler wrote:

red white wrote:

joey butler wrote:
With utmost respect guys, most of you are not thinking about the very cause of our problems.

Firstly, PDC should get rid of his absolute leech of an agent, who has continually recommended second rate players. I am sure he gets paid when they join and I am fairly sure his agent gets paid when they leave shortly afterwards!!

The Board must be quite stupid if they cannot see what is going on.

Secondly, The Board should stand up to PDC with his ever increasing threats, the very latest of which are in his comments above.

If PDC does not like it, it is quite simply 'Goodbye and Good luck' PDC.

Am I the only poster on here to read through PDC's repeated threats, or are The Board simply all stupid??

That is Paolo's way.
We will rule with him.
Joe Butler was a great player by the way.

Downsborough
Thomas
Trollope,

Butler
Burrows
Harland,

Smith
Smart
Horsefield
Noble
Rogers.

Proper.(not a sub1).

Try the Wembley team again, you are quite wrong!

mikek wrote:
Man United's young striker Joshua King linked to Town on that silly rumours site where it also says Liverpool are in for Miles Storey in January yes we can swap him for Suarez , blimey I'm getting as bad as some others on this forum. Mind you reckon this Utd player is worth a look and certainly a solid unit and very quick. Question for fellow fans are coloured strikers better than white guy's as it always seems to me they are when you watch footy on the box.

Swindon1984 wrote:

mikek wrote:
Man United's young striker Joshua King linked to Town on that silly rumours site where it also says Liverpool are in for Miles Storey in January yes we can swap him for Suarez , blimey I'm getting as bad as some others on this forum. Mind you reckon this Utd player is worth a look and certainly a solid unit and very quick. Question for fellow fans are coloured strikers better than white guy's as it always seems to me they are when you watch footy on the box.

If you're serious that's an utterly moronic question and phrased particularly badly. If you're joking I really missed your point.

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote: Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym, I agree they are not scoring in the league but as I said I am not overly worried because other players are scoring. It would be different if it was like our relegation season when we only had one striker who kept us in mid-table until January. Is that what we want ? Twenty goal strikers are great if you can find them but football is a team game. There is a team in the championship currently that look very much like we did two seasons ago. What is the betting on a similar outcome for them ! COYMR

OXon - ok -so when the "others" goals dry up and the dream team are still not scoring what then? Aren't we then up the proverbial creek?

Malkym,

If the other goals dry up not when.

If the other goals dry up maybe the strikers will be firing.

I just think too much is made of having to have a 20 goal a season striker.

Last season in League 1 there were 4 players that scored 20+ goals. The player that finished 6th with 16 now wears a Town Shirt.

In League 2 there were no players that scored 20+ (Collins finished 8th with 14 and was young like Miles Storey) and in the Championship there were 2.

Top 6 scorers in the League 1 scoring charts last season which do you go for ?

Jordan Rhodes (36 goals) - way out of our price range.
Ched Evans (29) - In jail.
Bradley Wright-Philips (22) - no chance of signing.
Staurt Beavon (21) - Signed by Preston and currently has 4 goals this season in 16 full appearances.
Gary Nadine (18) - Interesting !!!!!
Andy Williams (16) - Signed on a free transfer.

Lots of IFs and BUTs I agree but (sorry) I reckon we should only start to worry if (sorry) the goals dry up as they did two seasons ago.

COYMR

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote: Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym, I agree they are not scoring in the league but as I said I am not overly worried because other players are scoring. It would be different if it was like our relegation season when we only had one striker who kept us in mid-table until January. Is that what we want ? Twenty goal strikers are great if you can find them but football is a team game. There is a team in the championship currently that look very much like we did two seasons ago. What is the betting on a similar outcome for them ! COYMR

OXon - ok -so when the "others" goals dry up and the dream team are still not scoring what then? Aren't we then up the proverbial creek?

Malkym, If the other goals dry up not when. If the other goals dry up maybe the strikers will be firing. I just think too much is made of having to have a 20 goal a season striker. Last season in League 1 there were 4 players that scored 20+ goals. The player that finished 6th with 16 now wears a Town Shirt. In League 2 there were no players that scored 20+ (Collins finished 8th with 14 and was young like Miles Storey) and in the Championship there were 2. Top 6 scorers in the League 1 scoring charts last season which do you go for ? Jordan Rhodes (36 goals) - way out of our price range. Ched Evans (29) - In jail. Bradley Wright-Philips (22) - no chance of signing. Staurt Beavon (21) - Signed by Preston and currently has 4 goals this season in 16 full appearances. Gary Nadine (18) - Interesting !!!!! Andy Williams (16) - Signed on a free transfer. Lots of IFs and BUTs I agree but (sorry) I reckon we should only start to worry if (sorry) the goals dry up as they did two seasons ago. COYMR

Oxon thank you for your in depth reply. I do not profess to know the relative abilities or otherwise of other strikers. All I know is W & C are not doing it. Ok I'll cut Williams a little bit of slack given his recovery from injury and their goal drought may have something to do with the abysmal service from midfield of late. But at Walsall on Saturday they had plenty of service and they were both guilty of missing chances Collins in particular. Like I said how long do they get? So if neither of them score another goal this side of Xmas we still keep plugging away with them? Ferry can't be replied on to hit the net with the same regularity as Ritchie and while Bostock is saying he wants to score doing so is another kettle of fish. I'll reserve my judgement on hour two main strikers until after the next two home games but if they don't both score in those two games then my opinion on their ability won't change but I'll put my hand up and say well done if they do.

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Malkym wrote: Oxon - the trouble is our strikers (W&C) are not scoring in the league are they -forget the cups -history - Collins has got 3 & Williams 2 . The much maligned RDV has 4 - and look how many times he's ben subbed - Ritchie has 7 -time for W&C to shape up or ship out IMO.

Malkym, I agree they are not scoring in the league but as I said I am not overly worried because other players are scoring. It would be different if it was like our relegation season when we only had one striker who kept us in mid-table until January. Is that what we want ? Twenty goal strikers are great if you can find them but football is a team game. There is a team in the championship currently that look very much like we did two seasons ago. What is the betting on a similar outcome for them ! COYMR

OXon - ok -so when the "others" goals dry up and the dream team are still not scoring what then? Aren't we then up the proverbial creek?

Malkym,

If the other goals dry up not when.

If the other goals dry up maybe the strikers will be firing.

I just think too much is made of having to have a 20 goal a season striker.

Last season in League 1 there were 4 players that scored 20+ goals. The player that finished 6th with 16 now wears a Town Shirt.

In League 2 there were no players that scored 20+ (Collins finished 8th with 14 and was young like Miles Storey) and in the Championship there were 2.

Top 6 scorers in the League 1 scoring charts last season which do you go for ?

Jordan Rhodes (36 goals) - way out of our price range.
Ched Evans (29) - In jail.
Bradley Wright-Philips (22) - no chance of signing.
Staurt Beavon (21) - Signed by Preston and currently has 4 goals this season in 16 full appearances.
Gary Nadine (18) - Interesting !!!!!
Andy Williams (16) - Signed on a free transfer.

Lots of IFs and BUTs I agree but (sorry) I reckon we should only start to worry if (sorry) the goals dry up as they did two seasons ago.

COYMR

Oxon thank you for your in depth reply. I do not profess to know the relative abilities or otherwise of other strikers. All I know is W & C are not doing it. Ok I'll cut Williams a little bit of slack given his recovery from injury and their goal drought may have something to do with the abysmal service from midfield of late. But at Walsall on Saturday they had plenty of service and they were both guilty of missing chances Collins in particular. Like I said how long do they get? So if neither of them score another goal this side of Xmas we still keep plugging away with them? Ferry can't be replied on to hit the net with the same regularity as Ritchie and while Bostock is saying he wants to score doing so is another kettle of fish. I'll reserve my judgement on hour two main strikers until after the next two home games but if they don't both score in those two games then my opinion on their ability won't change but I'll put my hand up and say well done if they do.