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Town's new owners meet the media at the County Ground
Updated 2:33pm Monday 25th February 2013 in STFC News
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- New Town owners meet press for the first time
- Jed McCrory's consortium finalised takeover last week
- Reporting by NED PAYNE
2:33pm
That is the end of today's coverage. Thank you for following.
2:32pm
Plenty of issues will be raised over the next few days. Don't forget, the new owners have only been here two days. They need a moment to bed in.
2:30pm
Some very interesting notions discussed by the new owners. Don't forget to read all the quotes and reaction in tomorrow's Adver.
2:27pm
2:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the don69 says
Promotion is the number 1 aim,then we need 2/3 quality loan players asap Jed,who's going to chose these,Miller&Ward???
???
2:27pm
That is the end of the questions. Time for a picture or two.
2:26pm
McCrory thanks "respectful" fans for welcoming him and his fellow new owners to the club.
2:26pm
Very slick and smooth press conference thus far.
2:25pm
"I've had 30 days of chaos," says McCrory.
2:24pm
@BunceJoshua #stfcadver can't wait till Swindon is in the premier league ;)
— @viralzues 25 February 2013
2:23pm
Rice admits last six weeks have been "distracting" for club, and says results have been impressive in spite of this.
2:22pm
Rice praises job done by joint player-managers Darren Ward and Tommy Miller at the weekend.
2:20pm
New owners keen to state that promotion is number one aim.
2:20pm
@SamMorshead_SA can they start selling alcohol in the town end please? #stfcadver
— @woolybaabaa 25 February 2013
2:19pm
However, new owners are keen to stress that job could go to any number of candidates at this stage.
2:18pm
McCrory does not rule out return of Di Canio to the hotseat.
2:16pm
Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet.
2:16pm
McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club.
2:15pm
significant funds made towards the club. Love the sound of that #STFC #stfcadver
— @JamesSmi5 25 February 2013
2:13pm
McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss.
2:13pm
McCrory: "Andrew has cleared a lot of the debt. I do believe he's a genuine guy."
2:12pm
McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black.
2:11pm
Chief executive Nick Watkins' future remains unclear but the new owners will speak to him in time. McCrory says he wants to be "respectful" in his treatment of Watkins.
2:09pm
Hooper is looking forward to "a good night's sleep" but says he welcomes the challenge of moving the club forward to a "sustainable future".
2:08pm
I'm looking forward to seeing what the new STFC owners have in store for us! #stfcadver
— @JayBox325 25 February 2013
2:08pm
He reiterates that the club have not spoken to anyone regards the managerial position.
2:08pm
McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time.
2:07pm
There will be "significant funds" made available to improve the club.
2:07pm
McCrory says "there are a couple of businesses that are supporting us".
2:06pm
Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams".
2:05pm
McCrory says he is very proud and says the experience is "surreal".
2:05pm
Murrall introduces himself and says he will be in charge of operations.
2:04pm
McCrory wants to achieve promotion but says it's one step at a time.
2:03pm
He wants to "engage community and supporters".
2:03pm
McCrory states that he wants to "turn the club round and take it forward".
2:02pm
And here are the four men, led by McCrory.
2:02pm
1:54pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Davidsyrett says
Can you ask the new board how they are going to finance the club?
I'm pretty sure finance will come up at some point...
2:01pm
The press conference is due to start right now. No sign of messrs McCrory, Murrall, Rice and Hooper yet.
1:55pm
Murrall is an operations expert with a background in the pharmaceutical industry, Rice is the sole shareholder in The Angel Hotel in Bourne, Lincolnshire and Hooper is a former professional footballer who has held the post of commercial manager at QPR and Brentford.
1:54pm
The group will provide the necessary funds to secure Town’s immediate future and prevent serious financial problems at the County Ground. Black, Russell Backhouse and Sir William Patey all stood down from the board of directors on Thursday, with Steve Murrall, Callum Rice and Gary Hooper replacing them. Chief executive Nick Watkins has been retained by the new owners.
1:54pm
Seebeck 87 Limited officially took over on Thursday. The Jed McCrory-backed company has acquired the majority shareholding in Town from Andrew Black, buying up 99 per cent of the total shares in the club.
1:53pm
So, just to recap...
1:50pm
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1:48pm
Huge media interest in this unveiling as the new regime prepares to show its hand. A palpable sense of excitement in the room.
1:46pm
Various media outlets are gradually assembling at the County Ground...
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Comments(228)
ds-red
says...
10:24am Mon 25 Feb 13
I know they have a fantastic chance to support the team for final third of the season and win automatic promotion . If you look at our record of promotions when appointing young managers that have finished playing
Macari
Ardiles
Hoddle
Machman
Paulo do canio
Lets do it again .
Olle gunner soljsker
Calcio Robin
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10:25am Mon 25 Feb 13
Bassett Hound
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10:43am Mon 25 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.
stfclondon
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10:53am Mon 25 Feb 13
Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.
Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Stilloyal
says...
10:58am Mon 25 Feb 13
Only one sensible name so far Ole Gunner Solksjar, 2 consectutive league titles with Molde and looking for an English club. No Tisdale et al from the basement league. BE AMBITIOUS !
Calcio Robin
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10:59am Mon 25 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.
Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
International Robin2
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11:00am Mon 25 Feb 13
Jed has made comments on Twitter in the last week that he made contact with PDC... What was the outcome of those discussions?
jam1
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11:05am Mon 25 Feb 13
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Stilloyal
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11:06am Mon 25 Feb 13
International Robin2 wrote:PDC said "you can't have your momento's back, they're mine "
PLEASE ASK ABOUT THE STATUS OF PDC. Jed has made comments on Twitter in the last week that he made contact with PDC... What was the outcome of those discussions?
EastoeSTFC
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11:18am Mon 25 Feb 13
Psychedelic Syd
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11:18am Mon 25 Feb 13
International Robin2 wrote:Paolo said he's going to blow your locks off ........!!!
PLEASE ASK ABOUT THE STATUS OF PDC.
Jed has made comments on Twitter in the last week that he made contact with PDC... What was the outcome of those discussions?
Wembley69
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11:27am Mon 25 Feb 13
Bearing in mind that Paul Bodin and PdC havnt spoken to each other in months that we have a manager that believes in bringing the youth team through to the first team.
Also the ground needs development to increase income other than on match days so what are the plans?
LeGod
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11:35am Mon 25 Feb 13
I hope we are going to get some positive feedback from the new board today and not smoke screens.
we have an important run in now and some tough away games coming up so if they are serious about getting into the championship then they need to act quickly in getting in additional players and a quality manager.
Everything seems to laid back at the moment and the momentum needs to get going.
StFc
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11:38am Mon 25 Feb 13
payner
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11:57am Mon 25 Feb 13
Pewsham Red
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12:00pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Stilloyal wrote:I think we need to lower our expectations somewhat. Sojskjaer turned down Aston Villa - what on earth makes us think he would come to Swindon.
Sam please suggest to Jed that we need a manager from above our league to finnish the job.
Only one sensible name so far Ole Gunner Solksjar, 2 consectutive league titles with Molde and looking for an English club. No Tisdale et al from the basement league. BE AMBITIOUS !
I am all for being ambitious, but as a league one club with gates of around 8000 we also need to be realistic.
super red
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12:00pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:In fairness the wembley trips will always bring bigger numbers with the regulars at the county ground bringing along their nans, grans, uncles long lost relatives, etc.
stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
I don't believe the missing 25,000 fans are actually their to bring back for the weekly games at home.
Slightly annoys me that we always attach blame to the wembley 'day trippers' when it's probably undeserved..... In my opinion.
Park North Red
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12:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13
ecklington
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12:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:Unfortunately there are very few original born and bred Swindonians left, who would still be interested in supporting Town, many moved away for jobs.
stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.
Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Plus in the 50's Swindon became an overspill town for thousands of Londoners, and most still support their old clubs - Arsenal, Tottenham, west Ham etc, and have no interest in supporting Town, only derogatory remarks and "small town" pedigree.
One can only hope that if Town manage to climb up the leagues, many more outsiders will be interested in watching and start to support Town. £1 for a kid has to be the way forward, as has been mentioned many times before, to encourage the next generations to continue supporting the Town.
Stilloyal
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12:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
payner wrote:All debts had to be cleared before the F/L would sanction the takeover, hence the additional 24 hour delay last week. Swindon Town do not have any debts !
Sam, could you ask if there is any truth in Graham Turner's comments on Saturday that we are overdue on payments in regards to the transfer of James Collins from Shrewsbury. Also I see Exeter are saying today that we are £13 million in debts, could that be verified as well!!
Pewsham Red
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12:06pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:Good point, but we are no different than any other lower league club in that regard.
stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.
Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
If you consider that a city like Bristol, which must be three times the size of Swindon, struggle to get a combined 20,000 to watch their league sides.
Maybe we need to adjust our ambitions to the size of our potential crowds rather than spend like we have been and grumbling that we can't get bigger crowds.
swindonurock
says...
12:11pm Mon 25 Feb 13
If ditching your team in the middle of your contract, at the point when your club needs you most, is his definition of loyalty, then I hope he's finished at STFC.
Stilloyal
says...
12:13pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Pewsham Red wrote:Yeah but they're sh1te arn't they lol
Calcio Robin wrote:Good point, but we are no different than any other lower league club in that regard. If you consider that a city like Bristol, which must be three times the size of Swindon, struggle to get a combined 20,000 to watch their league sides. Maybe we need to adjust our ambitions to the size of our potential crowds rather than spend like we have been and grumbling that we can't get bigger crowds.stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
STFC MARLOW
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12:13pm Mon 25 Feb 13
The fans need to show their desire for promotion also. Lets get behind the team. YOU REDS!!
Pewsham Red
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12:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Stilloyal wrote:Ha. Good point.
Pewsham Red wrote:Yeah but they're sh1te arn't they lolCalcio Robin wrote:Good point, but we are no different than any other lower league club in that regard. If you consider that a city like Bristol, which must be three times the size of Swindon, struggle to get a combined 20,000 to watch their league sides. Maybe we need to adjust our ambitions to the size of our potential crowds rather than spend like we have been and grumbling that we can't get bigger crowds.stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
says...
12:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13
LeGod wrote:I think it takes an awful lot of time to build up a fanbase. Pretty sure I read somewhere that it took Reading ten years to get from the sort of level we're at to what they've got now.
weve all said it on here numerous times but we should have had over 10k for the game on saturday when we are top of the league it should have happenned. Preston had just under 1k so we cant see to get away from the normal crowd size on matchdays.
I hope we are going to get some positive feedback from the new board today and not smoke screens.
we have an important run in now and some tough away games coming up so if they are serious about getting into the championship then they need to act quickly in getting in additional players and a quality manager.
Everything seems to laid back at the moment and the momentum needs to get going.
Obviously being in a higher division helps a lot, but people get in/get out of the habit of going to the CG regularly.
The killer factor for ST is that if we start to do well we haven't got the capacity to cash in. Even if it's just for a cup match v ManYoo or Arsenal we can't get more than another 3000 or soTown fans than we normally do, so the benefits of a big cup match in terms of attracting new fans is also small.
We might not fill a 20,000 CG in the FLC every week but we could sometimes - so we can start to draw more fans in, even if it's not every week (at least to begin with).
Davidsyrett
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12:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Pewsham Red wrote:As I said before, lets build some solid foundations and be sensible. We can not move forward on gates of 8K and a older style ground.
Calcio Robin wrote:Good point, but we are no different than any other lower league club in that regard.
stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.
Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
If you consider that a city like Bristol, which must be three times the size of Swindon, struggle to get a combined 20,000 to watch their league sides.
Maybe we need to adjust our ambitions to the size of our potential crowds rather than spend like we have been and grumbling that we can't get bigger crowds.
First step new stadium (not redevelopment, it will never happen and wont work)
Then 24hr income from stadium.
Finally then we can start to aim to be a sustainable championship club,
This is the only model that has ever proved successful for other clubs and if not followed we will move no further forward.
Pewsham Red
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12:18pm Mon 25 Feb 13
STFC MARLOW wrote:I also think that the amount of football on telly means that most kids will start supporting a Prem club.
People forget we averaged 17,000 I'm the late 70's. Swindon was a big draw for the area, but with video games and the influx of people from areas the gates have fallen, but people should not forget the support from other areas, for example Cirencester etc. REAL Swindon fans have the opportunity by voting with bums on seats that we have the ambition for championship football. As a business model getting people in with money won't work at this level as there's no guarantee of success. The fans need to show their desire for promotion also. Lets get behind the team. YOU REDS!!
In the 70's you had the FA Cup Final, the Big Match and Match of the Day, so if you wanted to watch football you had to go to the game.
We need to start attracting youngsters, like the chap above said and the kid a quid scheme will be great for that. In my view we should do this for every home game, as should all lower league clubs.
Stilloyal
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12:19pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Pewsham Red wrote:Whatever but we need to look above l.2 The appointment we make now won't just affect ticket sales this season but will have an even bigger impact on next.
Stilloyal wrote: Sam please suggest to Jed that we need a manager from above our league to finnish the job. Only one sensible name so far Ole Gunner Solksjar, 2 consectutive league titles with Molde and looking for an English club. No Tisdale et al from the basement league. BE AMBITIOUS !I think we need to lower our expectations somewhat. Sojskjaer turned down Aston Villa - what on earth makes us think he would come to Swindon. I am all for being ambitious, but as a league one club with gates of around 8000 we also need to be realistic.
Promotion is a must this season given our current position, mid table is totally un acceptable and major disaster.
Villa are sh1te who wouldn't turn them down :-)
dreamofacleansheet2
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12:21pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Secondly re the new manager, can they guarantee it will be someone that demands the same level of professionalism, hard work and dedication as our former manager.
Coincidence Wes photographed in a night club at 12:40 am on Saturday night? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but I for one do not want our players going back to the drunken poor performances of a few seasons back.
Pewsham Red
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12:24pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Stilloyal wrote:I agree, but I also think Dave Syrett and Jeremy make good points regarding sustainable growth.
Pewsham Red wrote:Whatever but we need to look above l.2 The appointment we make now won't just affect ticket sales this season but will have an even bigger impact on next. Promotion is a must this season given our current position, mid table is totally un acceptable and major disaster. Villa are sh1te who wouldn't turn them down :-)Stilloyal wrote: Sam please suggest to Jed that we need a manager from above our league to finnish the job. Only one sensible name so far Ole Gunner Solksjar, 2 consectutive league titles with Molde and looking for an English club. No Tisdale et al from the basement league. BE AMBITIOUS !I think we need to lower our expectations somewhat. Sojskjaer turned down Aston Villa - what on earth makes us think he would come to Swindon. I am all for being ambitious, but as a league one club with gates of around 8000 we also need to be realistic.
We have always been a bit 'boom and bust' and need to get a model in place that means we can attain a certain level and stay there - Reading being a good example of this.
That way we can attract and retain fans and this, coupled with better facilities will bring in more income and allow us to be more self sufficient.
STFCman&boy1973
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12:36pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Because if we can't get Paolo back, that's the way were going...
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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12:39pm Mon 25 Feb 13
STFC MARLOW wrote:While I agree with most of what you say, I don't think we were averaging anything like 17,000 in the late 70s.
People forget we averaged 17,000 I'm the late 70's. Swindon was a big draw for the area, but with video games and the influx of people from areas the gates have fallen, but people should not forget the support from other areas, for example Cirencester etc. REAL Swindon fans have the opportunity by voting with bums on seats that we have the ambition for championship football. As a business model getting people in with money won't work at this level as there's no guarantee of success.
The fans need to show their desire for promotion also. Lets get behind the team. YOU REDS!!
A quick google shows:
http://www.swindon-t
own-fc.co.uk/Results
.asp?Season=1979-198
0
I think the Town have more potential than 8,500 fans but it'll take more than one or two seasons of success to start building up the fanbase - we've barely had half a dozen seasons where we've finished in the top half of the division since we were in the PL so new fans just have not been attracted to start supporting us.
peatmoor pirate
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12:42pm Mon 25 Feb 13
STFC MARLOW wrote:We absolutely did not get average gates of 17,000 in the late 70s. I recall we did occasionally get that many for a big match; Watford and Swansea matches when they were marching up the leagues spring to mind as well as cup matches but not so many in the league on average. Indeed, a quick search on a Swindon Town history website shows 1977/8, average league home gate was 7015; in 1978/79, was 7751 and in 1979/80 (year of the great cup run, was 8428. 2012/13 compares very well to all of these.
People forget we averaged 17,000 I'm the late 70's. Swindon was a big draw for the area, but with video games and the influx of people from areas the gates have fallen, but people should not forget the support from other areas, for example Cirencester etc. REAL Swindon fans have the opportunity by voting with bums on seats that we have the ambition for championship football. As a business model getting people in with money won't work at this level as there's no guarantee of success.
The fans need to show their desire for promotion also. Lets get behind the team. YOU REDS!!
The simple fact is that football is too expensive to attend at the level we are at for a lot of people.
Swindon Town will attract more supporters at Championship or Premiership level if they ever get there but support in the Third Division has held up remarkably well over the years and we should not pretend that it hasn't or somhow more people will come if only we don't appoint Phil Brown or some other such nonsense.
KerroucheIsntOnFire
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12:45pm Mon 25 Feb 13
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:Im worried about the discipline of the players now Paolos left! L Rooney Devera and Flint were all seen drinking yesterday at the carling cup final - Rooneys been spotted a few times out on the town! We were mugged right off from the drinking gang a few years ago lets hope it doesnt come back in
Sam please ask them if we are going to get players in on loan ASAP (preferably they tell us today).
Secondly re the new manager, can they guarantee it will be someone that demands the same level of professionalism, hard work and dedication as our former manager.
Coincidence Wes photographed in a night club at 12:40 am on Saturday night? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but I for one do not want our players going back to the drunken poor performances of a few seasons back.
Wembley69
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12:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Swindon1984
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12:51pm Mon 25 Feb 13
STFC MARLOW wrote:Always found that a bit ironic, complaining about people not wanting to support their local teams, but it's fine for Swindon to draw support from places like Cirencester (who have their own club - Swindon just happen to be a relatively close LEAGUE club!)
People forget we averaged 17,000 I'm the late 70's. Swindon was a big draw for the area, but with video games and the influx of people from areas the gates have fallen, but people should not forget the support from other areas, for example Cirencester etc. REAL Swindon fans have the opportunity by voting with bums on seats that we have the ambition for championship football. As a business model getting people in with money won't work at this level as there's no guarantee of success. The fans need to show their desire for promotion also. Lets get behind the team. YOU REDS!!
Basically people should support their local team. A lot don't. However that's ok as long as their ignoring their local team to watch Swindon, rather than people living in Swindon ignoring the town to watch Chelsea on TV.... See the point?
It's a great idea trying to get people from outside the town coming to the county ground, but we really shouldn't need to, the town's big enough without poaching potential grass roots supporters from the surrounding areas.
Also the real fans are the ones already coming to watch, they can't show much more desire than turn up as they do now and ocassionally get someone else who can be bothered to turn up with them. If the interest isn't there, it isn't there, and we need to spend accordingly.
Would also say that averaging 17000 in the 70s still wasn't a vast amount for the time if you look at the figures for other clubs - pre all seater stadiums and prior to the gentrification of football in general a club's ground could get more people in and charge them far less for doing so. Aside from some of the big boys most clubs have seen a fall in attendances in the past twenty/thirty years because of the serious financial commitment it now takes to watch football. Unless we had a Bayern Munich type set up where safe standing came in and season tickets cost a hundred quid we're NEVER going to see attendances in the tens of thousands regularly again. We have to be realistic about that.
ShearerShearer
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12:55pm Mon 25 Feb 13
http://www.swindon-t
own-fc.co.uk
dreamofacleansheet2
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1:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Sam please be direct to Jed et al.... D you expect your players to behave like professional athletes and will you have a zero tolerance policy?
Don't care who the manager is as long as they hold to some professional principles. Been long over due and let's not blow it now.
zigounette and ballons
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1:06pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Interestingly i see jeds built his business from sponsorship and media ,i just wonder if thats his future intention to tout the club to wealthy investors overseas to raise their profiles in this country ,i oosted the other day as to why anyone would buy a football club ,and now realise this could be the reason why ,to act as a custodian and secure future investment ,
If so then good times will follow .
Wembley69
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1:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Leo Sayers Leather Trousers
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1:13pm Mon 25 Feb 13
We won't go poaching Managers though, never have.
Med Red
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1:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Rogersforengland
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1:24pm Mon 25 Feb 13
8,000 fans is a shame and as other say we can't expect much more success without bigger gates, i too was disappointed that we did not even get 10,000 there Saturday when Preston brought just about 1,000. Give the new board a chance i say.
Carlo
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1:28pm Mon 25 Feb 13
ecklington wrote:That theory doesn't wash with me.
Calcio Robin wrote:Unfortunately there are very few original born and bred Swindonians left, who would still be interested in supporting Town, many moved away for jobs. Plus in the 50's Swindon became an overspill town for thousands of Londoners, and most still support their old clubs - Arsenal, Tottenham, west Ham etc, and have no interest in supporting Town, only derogatory remarks and "small town" pedigree. One can only hope that if Town manage to climb up the leagues, many more outsiders will be interested in watching and start to support Town. £1 for a kid has to be the way forward, as has been mentioned many times before, to encourage the next generations to continue supporting the Town.stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Reading were in the same boat years ago (actually a lesser position, averaging approx. 4,0000 at home). Now look at them.
akershaker
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1:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13
We don't want a big name just for the hell of it, and big name managers don't lead to bigger gates - results and the style of football do that.
I think Tisdale would be a great appointment. Attractive football. Proven track record.
One last thing, the comments above insisting the clubs new owner must keep spending money like water - that's what got us into this mess in the first place.
Wembley69
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1:37pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Med Red wrote:I have a feeling it will be an anti climax bit like a politician saying 'we have to learn the lessons' or 'we need a roadmap' words perhaps more than action. Still maybe I am trying not to hope for too much just in case? Deep down we all want good news really!
Wonder how we'll all feel after the press conference.... elated or deflated??? With the prospect of automatic promotion so close, prioritising the appointment of a new manager and new signings to bolster a pretty thin squad (particularly midfield) is a must.
sagadude
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1:37pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Calcio Robin wrote:The majority of these "Good Time Charlies" as you put it, have probably like me supported Town since the 70's, put in more than 10 to 15 years regular support over that time as season ticket holders but can only afford a few games a year now.
stfclondon wrote:Totally agree with both of your comments, its funny that we can get 30,000 plus for a day out to Wembley, but then disappear when the real support is required, good time charlies!!! come to mind.Bassett Hound wrote:Good point, well made.Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Get real, there is still a recession on and jobs going i.e. Honda etc.
The council screwed up Swindon when they would not let a new stadium be built on the front garden ( now occupied by houses!).
If we had a stadium that was used 7 days a week with other attractions other than football then myself and my family would be there every week.
We have put more money into STFC over the years, so don't start criticising the people that would like to go every week but cannot afford it!
Davidsyrett
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1:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13
akershaker wrote:A voice of reason
Lots of rubbish talked on here about managers. Solskjaer is not going to come here.
We don't want a big name just for the hell of it, and big name managers don't lead to bigger gates - results and the style of football do that.
I think Tisdale would be a great appointment. Attractive football. Proven track record.
One last thing, the comments above insisting the clubs new owner must keep spending money like water - that's what got us into this mess in the first place.
Jon the red
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1:42pm Mon 25 Feb 13
nosyrudeman
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1:42pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Bassett Hound wrote:Pity parents didn't take their kids at an early age, like I did, my son 8ys old and now nearly 26 and is hooked for life. Kids with premier league shirts all over Swindon. Bloody plastic premier club supporters.
Calcio Robin wrote: Lets hope we don't hear the customery drivel and how we will go forward with mediocrity, as we have been used to superb times the last year and half, and we STFC supporters want it to continue, and not disappear into the background with the also rans!!!.It's a pity the people of Swindon don't swell the gates to afford these big names. We can't keep expecting others to bankroll our club.
Davidsyrett
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1:47pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jon the red wrote:And what sort of money do you expect us to pay the said "Top Manager"?
Tisdale manager ? never. This is potentially a very attractive offer for a top manager to take the reigns as with 2 months of the season left we have a realist chance of playing championship football next season. Not league 2 or conference - championship football. I believe the board need to send out a message of intent here and this appointment is crucial. Despite all the short memories of some fans i would go for PDC for footballing reasons as this man put Swindon back on the map when we were at our lowest and the job he started needs to be finished. He's passionate and he's a winner and if the board can control him and come to an arrangement then i believe we can win this league and go a long way. Paolo is the biggest reason we are where we are today - fact! Yes he's had money to spend but you still have to assemble a team and win matches and most Swindon fans would welcome him back today.
Davidsyrett
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1:54pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Super Mario TV
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1:54pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red
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1:58pm Mon 25 Feb 13
.
Also people have very short memories in terms of managers - Tisdale was one of the hottest properties about only 2 years ago and had Championship clubs trying to poach him
.
He also has promotion experience as he took Exeter from the Conference to L1 PO spots - on NO MONEY
.
I would love us to go for a "current" massive name like Adkins etc - but I would not be p1ssed off with Tisdale and think he could steer us over the line and do well with us longer term
.
Plus we would likely get Shaun Taylor in with him as they worked together at Exeter and he now has Assistant Manager experience at Torquay
.
That would be good in uniting our Youths and First Team as him and Bosin get on
Leo Sayers Leather Trousers
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2:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13
http://www.thisisexe
ter.co.uk/Tisdale-fa
vourite-Swindon-job/
story-18247805-detai
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the wizard
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2:03pm Mon 25 Feb 13
They've just done a runner, LOL
the wizard
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2:05pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Parking it on the cricket pitch then,
dreamofacleansheet2
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2:06pm Mon 25 Feb 13
I'm not singling him out I'm just extremely keen we have a manager who has a zero tolerance to un professional behaviour. The sum is always more than the parts if everyone pulls together.
Oh another lesson for the new board. We all desperately want to know what you've got to say. Being on time would be a good first impression. Yes I know I'm old school but ti never hurt.
super reds
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2:10pm Mon 25 Feb 13
stfclondon
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2:10pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jon the red wrote:Be serious will you. As much as we love the club, there is no chance of a "top manager" wanting the job.
Tisdale manager ? never. This is potentially a very attractive offer for a top manager to take the reigns as with 2 months of the season left we have a realist chance of playing championship football next season. Not league 2 or conference - championship football. I believe the board need to send out a message of intent here and this appointment is crucial. Despite all the short memories of some fans i would go for PDC for footballing reasons as this man put Swindon back on the map when we were at our lowest and the job he started needs to be finished. He's passionate and he's a winner and if the board can control him and come to an arrangement then i believe we can win this league and go a long way. Paolo is the biggest reason we are where we are today - fact! Yes he's had money to spend but you still have to assemble a team and win matches and most Swindon fans would welcome him back today.
Davidsyrett
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2:11pm Mon 25 Feb 13
jayden
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2:12pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:London red bodin is allready working 2 days a week coaching at torquay .He is helping out due to Martin Ling being in hospital.
Dreams: Wes is tea-total - so please do not go about tarnishing his name
.
Also people have very short memories in terms of managers - Tisdale was one of the hottest properties about only 2 years ago and had Championship clubs trying to poach him
.
He also has promotion experience as he took Exeter from the Conference to L1 PO spots - on NO MONEY
.
I would love us to go for a "current" massive name like Adkins etc - but I would not be p1ssed off with Tisdale and think he could steer us over the line and do well with us longer term
.
Plus we would likely get Shaun Taylor in with him as they worked together at Exeter and he now has Assistant Manager experience at Torquay
.
That would be good in uniting our Youths and First Team as him and Bosin get on
69Champs
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2:18pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Impressive, a 12 room hotel ..... WOW loads of dosh .....
no probs
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2:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13
peatmoor pirate
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2:22pm Mon 25 Feb 13
jam1
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2:24pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Davidsyrett wrote:He'll get to it in time
No ground re-development.
69Champs
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2:25pm Mon 25 Feb 13
peatmoor pirate wrote:Where were we when Marcari joned us?
Tisdale could do a decent job and amused by those who think he's not proven. Perplexed by those who think we can draw so called big-names. There's no way Adkins is coming here; maybe if we were already in Championship but we aren't. People need to get real. I'd like a club run properly and sustainably on the gates and revenue we can get and that doesn't require someone to keep putting their hand in their pocket. We all know where that ends up don't we.
EastleazeRed
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2:26pm Mon 25 Feb 13
no probs wrote:The board have just said they would not rule out a paolo di canio return !
has paolos resignation been officially accepted by anyone at the county ground?
the don69
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2:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13
???
street2000
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2:28pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Park North Red
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2:30pm Mon 25 Feb 13
no probs
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2:31pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs
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2:32pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Bassett Hound
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2:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13
akershaker wrote:Good post Shaker
Lots of rubbish talked on here about managers. Solskjaer is not going to come here.
We don't want a big name just for the hell of it, and big name managers don't lead to bigger gates - results and the style of football do that.
I think Tisdale would be a great appointment. Attractive football. Proven track record.
One last thing, the comments above insisting the clubs new owner must keep spending money like water - that's what got us into this mess in the first place.
jam1
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2:41pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs wrote:Significant funds to be made available, county ground will be developed, not ruling out return of Paolo..... yeah waste of time
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Highworth red
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2:42pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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2:44pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs wrote:Different era though - and Macari was a rookie manager, not someone who's taken a club into the PL.
peatmoor pirate wrote:Where were we when Marcari joned us?
Tisdale could do a decent job and amused by those who think he's not proven. Perplexed by those who think we can draw so called big-names. There's no way Adkins is coming here; maybe if we were already in Championship but we aren't. People need to get real. I'd like a club run properly and sustainably on the gates and revenue we can get and that doesn't require someone to keep putting their hand in their pocket. We all know where that ends up don't we.
EastleazeRed
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2:46pm Mon 25 Feb 13
no probs wrote:Reading between the lines no probs I would say the ball is in Paolo's court Watch this space !
eastleaze red , your response still does not answer the question that i have asked.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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2:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
EastleazeRed wrote:Might just be the sort of answer that just passes the question off without having to answer, rather than a genuine "we might have him back" position.
no probs wrote:The board have just said they would not rule out a paolo di canio return !
has paolos resignation been officially accepted by anyone at the county ground?
They must have known last Tuesday whether or not they'd ask him to reconsider, and if they genuinely wanted him back surely they'd have tried already?
the wizard
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2:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
Davidsyrett
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2:51pm Mon 25 Feb 13
jam1 wrote:maybe, maybe not, I would have liked to hear that the ground dev/ new stadium was a high priority, on the back burner for now. other than that seemed very positive, especially about the funds, although not clear who the companies investing are.
Davidsyrett wrote:He'll get to it in time
No ground re-development.
I don't want another crash & burn.
Davidsyrett
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2:53pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:I agree, think it's time to move on.
EastleazeRed wrote:Might just be the sort of answer that just passes the question off without having to answer, rather than a genuine "we might have him back" position.
no probs wrote:The board have just said they would not rule out a paolo di canio return !
has paolos resignation been officially accepted by anyone at the county ground?
They must have known last Tuesday whether or not they'd ask him to reconsider, and if they genuinely wanted him back surely they'd have tried already?
the wizard
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2:53pm Mon 25 Feb 13
EastleazeRed wrote:It doesn't have to be "officially accepted", the fact that he gave them a dead line which has gone meant that the contract had expired of its own accord. Add to that he has cleared his desk, add to that he was told he is no longer welcome at the ground. Game over.
no probs wrote:The board have just said they would not rule out a paolo di canio return !
has paolos resignation been officially accepted by anyone at the county ground?
jam1
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2:56pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Davidsyrett wrote:David you can only go on what the mans says and I quote - McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time.
jam1 wrote:maybe, maybe not, I would have liked to hear that the ground dev/ new stadium was a high priority, on the back burner for now. other than that seemed very positive, especially about the funds, although not clear who the companies investing are.
Davidsyrett wrote:He'll get to it in time
No ground re-development.
I don't want another crash & burn.
alchafreds
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2:56pm Mon 25 Feb 13
akershaker wrote:ooh some-ones tired
Lots of rubbish talked on here about managers. Solskjaer is not going to come here.
We don't want a big name just for the hell of it, and big name managers don't lead to bigger gates - results and the style of football do that.
I think Tisdale would be a great appointment. Attractive football. Proven track record.
One last thing, the comments above insisting the clubs new owner must keep spending money like water - that's what got us into this mess in the first place.
avo
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2:58pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Park North Red wrote:Well it won't be Paolo Di EGO Canio I wouldn't have thought so anyway.
So if the return of PDC is not ruled out then who's going to make the first move I wonder ??
.
I'd welcome him back, but I'd be parked outside his office to tell him just what I thought of his ill timed walk out in his first game back too...
.
We had something special, he chose to walk away from it when in reality, there was little if nothing the new board could do to ensure that takeover deadline demand of his was met.
.
Anyway, all old news now, welcome jed & co, I hope you all have thick skin, no matter what you do or say today, you'll be picked apart and hung out to dry before you even have a chance to make an impact.
madterrier
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2:58pm Mon 25 Feb 13
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
Jon the red
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2:59pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Davidsyrett
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3:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
jam1 wrote:but did he mean he would get to look at the possibility of developing or actual development of the ground in time. for me he passed the question of very quickly, I just wanted more detail as I feel it's the most important item that need addressing at the moment along with the new manager.
Davidsyrett wrote:David you can only go on what the mans says and I quote - McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time.
jam1 wrote:maybe, maybe not, I would have liked to hear that the ground dev/ new stadium was a high priority, on the back burner for now. other than that seemed very positive, especially about the funds, although not clear who the companies investing are.
Davidsyrett wrote:He'll get to it in time
No ground re-development.
I don't want another crash & burn.
stfcknowitall
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3:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
I agree with jed with the fact the redevelopment of the stadium isn't the most pressing issue. If we can get promoted to the Championship our current ground would be good enough with a lick of paint to cope while we could hopeully consolidate ourselves in that league.
Even though Im sure Milller & Ward are trying thier best as temp managers we so desperately an experienced manager with a cool head asap to guide us through the remainder of the season to give us the best chance of promotion.
Paul Tisdale please!
SouthcoastRed
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3:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
MITTED
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3:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
They said the square of route of f**k all.
A fans' forum would have been much more productive, at least the questions would have been more demanding!
COYR
MITTED
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3:05pm Mon 25 Feb 13
COYR
Park North Red
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3:07pm Mon 25 Feb 13
alchafreds
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3:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
69Champs
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3:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the wizard wrote:I expected that after a month they might have some idea as to what their immediate plans would be rather than hot air and no direction.
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
"He wants to "engage community and supporters".
"Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams"."
"McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time."
"McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black."
"McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss."
"McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club."
"Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet."
This adds up to non-information. They should have been able to state what their general intentions are especially in the short term as this is what concerns all Town supporters.
As an STFC supporter I won't be satisfied with 'small mercies'.
Psychedelic Syd
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3:15pm Mon 25 Feb 13
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
says...
3:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13
I don't like the thought of players trying to manage the remainder of the season. We could all see on Saturday that it was crying out for a voice from the side lines to change things which may have cost us the win.
Oi Den!
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3:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13
MITTED wrote:Be fair. He's also got 2 promotions on his CV. He's at Exeter. As far as I know, they've never been higher than the third tier and have spent most of their life in the 4th or lower. If we are going to rule out every manager who's been in charge of a relegated side, without regard to the circumstances, we will be dismissing a lot of good canidates. You never know - if Tisdale had been appointed instead of PDC, he might have got us to where we are now at a fraction of the cost and without the embarrassing constant whingeing about lack of resources.
Why would anyone want Tisdale? He has relegation on his CV ffs! Hardly inspiring.
COYR
davel4848
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3:32pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs wrote:You forgot to mention.............
the wizard wrote:I expected that after a month they might have some idea as to what their immediate plans would be rather than hot air and no direction.
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
"He wants to "engage community and supporters".
"Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams"."
"McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time."
"McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black."
"McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss."
"McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club."
"Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet."
This adds up to non-information. They should have been able to state what their general intentions are especially in the short term as this is what concerns all Town supporters.
As an STFC supporter I won't be satisfied with 'small mercies'.
..............
Promotion is the number 1 aim.
There will be significant funds available to improve the club.
Come on, let's stop being so negative already !.
Oldhamred
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3:34pm Mon 25 Feb 13
alchafreds wrote:No chance of Paul Scholes, if he's not at Old Trafford he's at Boundary Park supporting Oldham.
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
Has gone on record many times stating thats where he wants to end his playing career.
Latics through and through.
Ryan Giggs could be possible with an experienced No2.
I would think his fitness training would be easily as good as Paolo's.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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3:35pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Huddersfield gave away free season tickets to under-11s when they moved to their new ground. Had 1000 take them up on it.
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
Quid a kid is great but depends a kid having someone to take them - £20 is a lot of money if you're not interested in it yourself and are just going because the little 'un wants to go. Maybe a scheme where the club can get CRB checked adults to look after a bunch of kids - teachers taking their class or something - and drop them off somewhere for the parents to pick up after the match?
Also, some flexible pricing. Choose a couple of rubbish looking matches per season and drop the price to a tenner. The £20/£17 deals were all well but play best to people who go already and who might have been a bit "meh" about Hartlepool. Charge a tenner and others might give it a go.
Also think about selling half-season seasons upto Christmas then promote the second half as possible Christmas presents you can give someone.
And what about discounts for block bookings for those people who can't do or can't afford season tickets? What your seat for the next six games? Great - but you only have to pay for five games. Same goes if you want six tickets for the next game, three tickets for both of the next two or two tickets for the next three. Six tickets - pay for five.
If we're doing well you can drop some of these because there would be no seats left, but as long as you don't annoy season ticket holders by making other promotions cheaper (i.e. decide all this up front) then surely getting people in is a good thing? You've got programme sales, food and drink, plus the possibility that they'll come back again.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
says...
3:36pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oldhamred wrote:They'd have to tell the players to lock up their wives if they appoint Giggs!
alchafreds wrote:No chance of Paul Scholes, if he's not at Old Trafford he's at Boundary Park supporting Oldham.
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
Has gone on record many times stating thats where he wants to end his playing career.
Latics through and through.
Ryan Giggs could be possible with an experienced No2.
I would think his fitness training would be easily as good as Paolo's.
newburymike
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3:37pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Park North Red wrote:Reading lose millions every year, they are bankrolled just like we used to be & will be in deep muck if owners pull out just like we were
We need to move the stadium redevelopment plans forward now. It's the County Ground in its current guise that puts a lot of people off coming I am sure. Look at what Reading have achieved since moving to the Madejski and that shows what can be done
the don69
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3:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Swindon1984
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3:39pm Mon 25 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Absolutely, the man's unhinged, and not in an amusing DiCaio type way. Also another manager who brought us success and then decided to jump ship as soon as a better offer came along (although pledging his future to us just days before) so not for me cheers.
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter. My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that. As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
the wizard
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3:40pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs wrote:They haven't had their hands on the books for a month as such. I dare say they still getting to grips with the day to day running of the club and finding out now in detail where the money comes from and goes to.
the wizard wrote:I expected that after a month they might have some idea as to what their immediate plans would be rather than hot air and no direction.
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
"He wants to "engage community and supporters".
"Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams"."
"McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time."
"McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black."
"McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss."
"McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club."
"Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet."
This adds up to non-information. They should have been able to state what their general intentions are especially in the short term as this is what concerns all Town supporters.
As an STFC supporter I won't be satisfied with 'small mercies'.
They are hardly going to show their full hand until they have spoken more to SBC about the ground.
Not happy with small mercies eh ?? well well well, you are indeed lucky still to have a club to support, or would you rather have nothing ? Had we gone into admin we would be in Conference South next season if we were lucky. Perhaps had you stumped up what it took to buy the club and as much again several times over to run it you to would be just a tad cautious what you said and did in your first week. Fitton said a lot, promised a lot but bailed, the rest of the consortium did what they could and ran out of money. These guys don't even have as much to start with, so caution on what they say do and spend doesn't seem to be such a bad option right now. Remember we have had plenty of owners in recent years and some wanted to do plenty, all with very good intention, and they have all failed. If you don't make rash promises then you don't have to live up to the expectations of those who listen to them. We are in a financial downturn as a country, do we really think STFC is going to buck the trend over all others ?
If you want big names, big budgets and big everything then you are at the wrong club, sorry, but it aint going to change anytime soon, that is the reality of it all. I only wish we could be that little bit better, and not have new owners every few years.
Oldhamred
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3:40pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:Very nearly posted that then realised it has to be a relative lol.
Oldhamred wrote:They'd have to tell the players to lock up their wives if they appoint Giggs!
alchafreds wrote:No chance of Paul Scholes, if he's not at Old Trafford he's at Boundary Park supporting Oldham.
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
Has gone on record many times stating thats where he wants to end his playing career.
Latics through and through.
Ryan Giggs could be possible with an experienced No2.
I would think his fitness training would be easily as good as Paolo's.
Davidsyrett
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3:41pm Mon 25 Feb 13
davel4848 wrote:I dont think it's being negative,
69Champs wrote:You forgot to mention.............
the wizard wrote:I expected that after a month they might have some idea as to what their immediate plans would be rather than hot air and no direction.
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
"He wants to "engage community and supporters".
"Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams"."
"McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time."
"McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black."
"McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss."
"McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club."
"Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet."
This adds up to non-information. They should have been able to state what their general intentions are especially in the short term as this is what concerns all Town supporters.
As an STFC supporter I won't be satisfied with 'small mercies'.
..............
Promotion is the number 1 aim.
There will be significant funds available to improve the club.
Come on, let's stop being so negative already !.
I would have thought they should have had some time of business plan with them to take to the FL.
I'm not sure it's being negative just a bit underwhelming, You would usually expect the incoming board to outline their ideas to a lot greater extent them we have just heard, I wanted far more detail, not just a few Pc answer's
Nevertheless, I'm hoping over the next few weeks more information comes out from them.
HOOKEY
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3:44pm Mon 25 Feb 13
stfclondon
says...
3:44pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Park North Red wrote:It's very early days so I wouldn't have expected much more from them at this stage, but it all sounds very positive. Hopefully now they're on board it will be full steam ahead.
Don't want Tisdale here. PDC to come back for me
It's a shame McCrory didn't rule out a return for Di Canio though, as it gives false hope to those who are still at stage 1 of the grieving process (denial).The sooner there's some news on a new manager, the better. Everybody can then move on.
MITTED
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3:47pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Under 10s go free at the CG and have done for years! The problem is getting their couch-potato parents off their arses to take them to games!
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
I take somebody elses youngster because the father can't be a***d. And yes, the dad can afford to go himself.
COYR
davel4848
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3:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Davidsyrett wrote:Yes, I suppose it was a bit 'underwhelming' AND short. I'm just trying to be positive and there were some positives in there, including the points I mentioned.
davel4848 wrote:I dont think it's being negative,
69Champs wrote:You forgot to mention.............
the wizard wrote:I expected that after a month they might have some idea as to what their immediate plans would be rather than hot air and no direction.
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
"He wants to "engage community and supporters".
"Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams"."
"McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time."
"McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black."
"McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss."
"McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club."
"Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet."
This adds up to non-information. They should have been able to state what their general intentions are especially in the short term as this is what concerns all Town supporters.
As an STFC supporter I won't be satisfied with 'small mercies'.
..............
Promotion is the number 1 aim.
There will be significant funds available to improve the club.
Come on, let's stop being so negative already !.
I would have thought they should have had some time of business plan with them to take to the FL.
I'm not sure it's being negative just a bit underwhelming, You would usually expect the incoming board to outline their ideas to a lot greater extent them we have just heard, I wanted far more detail, not just a few Pc answer's
Nevertheless, I'm hoping over the next few weeks more information comes out from them.
Oldhamred
says...
3:52pm Mon 25 Feb 13
HOOKEY wrote:Because Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
davel4848
says...
3:53pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oldhamred wrote:I didn't realise they were real. I thought they were just in soapland.
HOOKEY wrote:Because Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
StillPav
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3:55pm Mon 25 Feb 13
The running costs would presumably be doubled? What additional revenue would there be except for maybe a couple of thousand extra supporters and a rise in ticket prices?
umpcah
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4:05pm Mon 25 Feb 13
davel4848 wrote:Are YOU for real ?
Oldhamred wrote:I didn't realise they were real. I thought they were just in soapland.
HOOKEY wrote:Because Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
bradley red 1
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4:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
davel4848
says...
4:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13
69Champs
says...
4:28pm Mon 25 Feb 13
davel4848 wrote:This conference was politician 'spin' and nothig more. I am naturally optimistic as I was at the appointment of Di Canio. I just wanted to see some positive statement about the short term as we have another game Tuesday and couple more crocks unavailable to the squain Ferry and Navarro.
Davidsyrett wrote:Yes, I suppose it was a bit 'underwhelming' AND short. I'm just trying to be positive and there were some positives in there, including the points I mentioned.
davel4848 wrote:I dont think it's being negative,
69Champs wrote:You forgot to mention.............
the wizard wrote:I expected that after a month they might have some idea as to what their immediate plans would be rather than hot air and no direction.
69Champs wrote:What did you want them to say ?????
All smoke and mirrors with no substance. A complete waste of time.
Ohh by the way we have just signed ''''''' as manager,
We are replacing the Town End with a two tier stand
We are redeveloping Stratton bank
We have £25M to spend on players.
For pities sake they are only a few days into the club, give them a chance.
Had they not come we wouldn't have had a club left to support, be grateful for small mercies.
"He wants to "engage community and supporters".
"Rice says he will be "exploring new revenue streams"."
"McCrory is not looking at the redevelopment of the County Ground just yet, but says he will get to it in time."
"McCrory speaks of "respect" for previous majority shareholder Andrew Black."
"McCrory was "staggered and surprised" by Paolo Di Canio's resignation as boss."
"McCrory says PDC has done a great job for the club."
"Says he is looking for "solidarity" in his manager going forward. Says there has not been a shortlist drawn up as yet."
This adds up to non-information. They should have been able to state what their general intentions are especially in the short term as this is what concerns all Town supporters.
As an STFC supporter I won't be satisfied with 'small mercies'.
..............
Promotion is the number 1 aim.
There will be significant funds available to improve the club.
Come on, let's stop being so negative already !.
I would have thought they should have had some time of business plan with them to take to the FL.
I'm not sure it's being negative just a bit underwhelming, You would usually expect the incoming board to outline their ideas to a lot greater extent them we have just heard, I wanted far more detail, not just a few Pc answer's
Nevertheless, I'm hoping over the next few weeks more information comes out from them.
I really want STFC to succeed and there is no reason why we should not be pushing hard for promotion. It needs urgent and concise management and I don't see that here.
themoonraker
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4:31pm Mon 25 Feb 13
MITTED wrote:good old mitted.....as patronising as usual with no respect for anybody else or their circumstances
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Under 10s go free at the CG and have done for years! The problem is getting their couch-potato parents off their arses to take them to games!
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
I take somebody elses youngster because the father can't be a***d. And yes, the dad can afford to go himself.
COYR
stfcknowitall
says...
4:44pm Mon 25 Feb 13
My only concern about the new owners we're thier seeming lack of urgency regarding the managerial situation. I also understand they don't want to just get in the first tom,dick or harry who walks throught the door first but I can see our position in the table dropping rapidly if we don't have a manager very soon!!
Oi Den!
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4:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
jam1
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4:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
jevs
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4:59pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oldhamred wrote:I don't think Ryan Giggs is realistic. The more people fantasise about implausible names the more they're likely to be disappointed by whoever is appointed.
alchafreds wrote:No chance of Paul Scholes, if he's not at Old Trafford he's at Boundary Park supporting Oldham.
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
Has gone on record many times stating thats where he wants to end his playing career.
Latics through and through.
Ryan Giggs could be possible with an experienced No2.
I would think his fitness training would be easily as good as Paolo's.
Dear Mr Giggs, forget about the Champions League & highly likely Premiership Winners Medal & come and manage our 3rd division team. Hmmm
peatmoor pirate
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5:00pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:Quite; Macari was a newbie. Adkins proven L1/Championship/argu
69Champs wrote:Different era though - and Macari was a rookie manager, not someone who's taken a club into the PL.
peatmoor pirate wrote:Where were we when Marcari joned us?
Tisdale could do a decent job and amused by those who think he's not proven. Perplexed by those who think we can draw so called big-names. There's no way Adkins is coming here; maybe if we were already in Championship but we aren't. People need to get real. I'd like a club run properly and sustainably on the gates and revenue we can get and that doesn't require someone to keep putting their hand in their pocket. We all know where that ends up don't we.
ably even Premiership level manager. He doesn't need to come here, even if he could which is arguable.
I have argued that the model of a high profile new manager has served us well in the past but it doesn't mean that a good quality, experienced manager wouldn't do a good job (like Luggy did for us for example).
There's a few on here with delusions of grandeur for the club though. Reality chek needed sometimes.
the don69
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5:00pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:The Football League were Happy Den!and it seemed right to them!if it was Shadowy and Anonymous?what's the point of the league's fit and proper?if this wrong as you and Brad think,the League will have a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
International Robin2
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5:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking and win this **** LEAGUE!
www.ipeti
tions.co
m/petition/bringpaol
oback/
Oxon-Red
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5:03pm Mon 25 Feb 13
davel4848 wrote:Is Soapland near Bath ?
Oldhamred wrote:I didn't realise they were real. I thought they were just in soapland.HOOKEY wrote: Why is one of our stands called the arkells standBecause Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
Oi Den!
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5:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:Don, there might not be anything technically wrong with it. I'm just saying it doesn't feel right. There are plenty of people who thought Black was wrong to have a "hands off" approach. These people are going one step further and staying anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:The Football League were Happy Den!and it seemed right to them!if it was Shadowy and Anonymous?what's the point of the league's fit and proper?if this wrong as you and Brad think,the League will have a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
jaybo
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5:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
dreamofacleansheet2
says...
5:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Sam please ask if the companies behind are property related or not?
davel4848
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5:10pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oxon-Red wrote:Nearer to Oxford or Bristol(or Bournemouth) methinks.
davel4848 wrote:Is Soapland near Bath ?
Oldhamred wrote:I didn't realise they were real. I thought they were just in soapland.HOOKEY wrote: Why is one of our stands called the arkells standBecause Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
MITTED
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5:21pm Mon 25 Feb 13
themoonraker wrote:What a patronising response! I have the utmost respect for those with GENUINE difficult circumstances but you can bet your bottom dollar that the overwhelming majority would make the effort if ManUre or Chelski were in town. You only have to look back at the bleating from those who couldn't get tickets for the Villa game because they weren't on the club database, which tells us a lot! Periodically, I take 4 or 5 other kids to games as well and in every case, they all want to go regularly but with the exception of one, their parents can't be bothered even though it is well within their respective means to at least take them to the occassional game. At least those kids are now all Town fans! If that is patronising, then I hope a lot more fans can do the same!!!!!
MITTED wrote:good old mitted.....as patronising as usual with no respect for anybody else or their circumstances
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Under 10s go free at the CG and have done for years! The problem is getting their couch-potato parents off their arses to take them to games!
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
I take somebody elses youngster because the father can't be a***d. And yes, the dad can afford to go himself.
COYR
COYR
Oldhamred
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5:21pm Mon 25 Feb 13
jevs wrote:Was thinking more end of season really.
Oldhamred wrote:I don't think Ryan Giggs is realistic. The more people fantasise about implausible names the more they're likely to be disappointed by whoever is appointed.
alchafreds wrote:No chance of Paul Scholes, if he's not at Old Trafford he's at Boundary Park supporting Oldham.
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
Has gone on record many times stating thats where he wants to end his playing career.
Latics through and through.
Ryan Giggs could be possible with an experienced No2.
I would think his fitness training would be easily as good as Paolo's.
Dear Mr Giggs, forget about the Champions League & highly likely Premiership Winners Medal & come and manage our 3rd division team. Hmmm
He will have to hang up his boots sometime.
As I recall, most people didn't think Hoddle was realistic. Hmmmmm my ar5e.
International Robin2
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5:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13
http://w
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LET'S WIN THIS LEAGUE!!
BournemouthRobin
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5:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13
davel4848 wrote:Soapland can't be near Oxford judging by the smell that comes from our yellow friends - unless they keep dodging it on their way home!!
Oxon-Red wrote:Nearer to Oxford or Bristol(or Bournemouth) methinks.
davel4848 wrote:Is Soapland near Bath ?
Oldhamred wrote:I didn't realise they were real. I thought they were just in soapland.HOOKEY wrote: Why is one of our stands called the arkells standBecause Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
jevs
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5:46pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oldhamred wrote:We were a Division 2 team who'd only just been robbed of promotion to the top league then, the wage disparity was massively less between the top league & the rest & he'd finished his contract at Monaco so was available.
jevs wrote:Was thinking more end of season really.
Oldhamred wrote:I don't think Ryan Giggs is realistic. The more people fantasise about implausible names the more they're likely to be disappointed by whoever is appointed.
alchafreds wrote:No chance of Paul Scholes, if he's not at Old Trafford he's at Boundary Park supporting Oldham.
madterrier wrote:J C not a bad shout
Tisdale would be a very good shout. One of our brightest young managers (he's only 38?) and has done very well with Exeter.
My position hasn't shifted from last week though. Try and entice an experienced manager to take a short-term contract to the end of the season (which may well be agreeable to them), get us promoted, and if we succeed then he could review the situation. Or preferably go for a retiring player going for his first manager's job. I'm going to claim to having been the first to suggest Jamie Carragher a while ago, and I'm sticking by that.
As an interim, sounds like we cannot get Adkins because of his contractual/gardenin
g leave/compensation situation. Would Glenn Hoddle be totally out of the question?
paul scholes any one
after all its experiance they need not money there both multi millianaires
Has gone on record many times stating thats where he wants to end his playing career.
Latics through and through.
Ryan Giggs could be possible with an experienced No2.
I would think his fitness training would be easily as good as Paolo's.
Dear Mr Giggs, forget about the Champions League & highly likely Premiership Winners Medal & come and manage our 3rd division team. Hmmm
He will have to hang up his boots sometime.
As I recall, most people didn't think Hoddle was realistic. Hmmmmm my ar5e.
I grant you he'd be a handy left winger for us though
Thankfully your ar5e doesn't come into it
madterrier
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5:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
I realise it might not be straightforward, and part of the attraction to him coming here might have been to play for Paolo, but particularly with Ferry out injured I wish we would try and progress this move as A MATTER OF PRIORITY.
Were loan signings mentioned at the conference?
swwindon61uk
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5:52pm Mon 25 Feb 13
As for PDC returning i can see it happening,not set up a managers list,understandable as they have just walked through the door.
Quite telling he says it is a budget similar
to last season but will not be wasted,maybe letting PDC know the rules if he does want to come back?
International Robin2
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5:54pm Mon 25 Feb 13
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking!!!!
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oback/
LET'S WIN THE LEAGUE!
Med Red
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6:04pm Mon 25 Feb 13
International Robin2 wrote:I've signed!!
LADIES AND GENTS!
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking and win this **** LEAGUE!
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Thanks to new owners for saving us from Admin. However, swift action needed to keep us on track for promotion. Bring Paolo back for the rest of the season for guaranteed promotion and then bring in your own guy during the summer. That's my advice.
Of course I'd prefer we got Paolo back and kept him, but just getting him back till end of season would be a good compromise. Why go for someone new if Paolo's still available??
stanharlands6shirt
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6:07pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:SORRY but if Tisdale had been appointed instead of DiCanio I believe we would have been floating around in league two now, wishing and hoping, like Rovers, Oxford and yes Exeter City.
MITTED wrote:Be fair. He's also got 2 promotions on his CV. He's at Exeter. As far as I know, they've never been higher than the third tier and have spent most of their life in the 4th or lower. If we are going to rule out every manager who's been in charge of a relegated side, without regard to the circumstances, we will be dismissing a lot of good canidates. You never know - if Tisdale had been appointed instead of PDC, he might have got us to where we are now at a fraction of the cost and without the embarrassing constant whingeing about lack of resources.
Why would anyone want Tisdale? He has relegation on his CV ffs! Hardly inspiring.
COYR
Tisdale is mediocre at very, very best, and that may well be o.k. for Exeter, but not for Swindon, especially given the strong position a new manager, or a re-instated Sanger would find themselves in if appointed soon.
Their appeared to be the glint of an olive branch for DiCanio from McCrory within his statement which I must confess surprised me after listening to him on Saturday...
If that is the case then they need to get their heads together quickly to see if there is still any common ground from which they can work together in some sort of harmony.
If it cannot happen for any reason, then either one or both come out and tell the supporters. Then we know it's definitely over....or definitely back on.
What could then happen for sure is everyone can move on together.
Why look for new, when we have the best within our grasp .
SimonPrice351
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6:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
I am curious as to whom the money man or men will be. Maybe Jed can inform us in time?
Still, welcome to The County Ground gentlemen.
swwindon61uk
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6:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13
mikewebb
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6:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Med Red wrote:absolutely agree and signed petition. I don't even want to think about a new manager until there really is no chance of king Paolo returning.
International Robin2 wrote:I've signed!!
LADIES AND GENTS!
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking and win this **** LEAGUE!
www.ipeti
tions.co
m/petition/bringpaol
oback/
Thanks to new owners for saving us from Admin. However, swift action needed to keep us on track for promotion. Bring Paolo back for the rest of the season for guaranteed promotion and then bring in your own guy during the summer. That's my advice.
Of course I'd prefer we got Paolo back and kept him, but just getting him back till end of season would be a good compromise. Why go for someone new if Paolo's still available??
International Robin2
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6:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
mikewebb wrote:It amazes me how everyone 'has moved on' - Why move on.. He's the best manager in the league!! Why miss out on fighting for him to come back. Seize the opportunity instead of letting it fall away.
Med Red wrote:absolutely agree and signed petition. I don't even want to think about a new manager until there really is no chance of king Paolo returning.
International Robin2 wrote:I've signed!!
LADIES AND GENTS!
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking and win this **** LEAGUE!
www.ipeti
tions.co
m/petition/bringpaol
oback/
Thanks to new owners for saving us from Admin. However, swift action needed to keep us on track for promotion. Bring Paolo back for the rest of the season for guaranteed promotion and then bring in your own guy during the summer. That's my advice.
Of course I'd prefer we got Paolo back and kept him, but just getting him back till end of season would be a good compromise. Why go for someone new if Paolo's still available??
There's no one else like Paolo!
http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/bring
paoloback/
stfcknowitall
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6:16pm Mon 25 Feb 13
International Robin2 wrote:I wouldn't sign this to save my life. Paolo's gone, get over it..he's burnt his bridges and anyone with a bit of sense would know that.
LADIES AND GENTS! A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking!!!! http://ww w.ipetitions.co m/petition/bringpaol oback/ LET'S WIN THE LEAGUE!
Oldhamred
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6:16pm Mon 25 Feb 13
mikewebb wrote:Signed, sealed, and hopefully will be delivered.
Med Red wrote:absolutely agree and signed petition. I don't even want to think about a new manager until there really is no chance of king Paolo returning.
International Robin2 wrote:I've signed!!
LADIES AND GENTS!
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking and win this **** LEAGUE!
www.ipeti
tions.co
m/petition/bringpaol
oback/
Thanks to new owners for saving us from Admin. However, swift action needed to keep us on track for promotion. Bring Paolo back for the rest of the season for guaranteed promotion and then bring in your own guy during the summer. That's my advice.
Of course I'd prefer we got Paolo back and kept him, but just getting him back till end of season would be a good compromise. Why go for someone new if Paolo's still available??
bradley red 1
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6:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13
bradley red 1
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6:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13
old town robin
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6:23pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Psychedelic Syd wrote:i would totally agree with school visits and cheap tickets for the kids to encourage the parents. we used to have a family section, which I would support as it might be a bit of a put off to bring your childen to a game where some bad language is expected, but could be minimised if children attending with parents in areas where obscene language would not be so prevident.
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
swwindon61uk
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6:25pm Mon 25 Feb 13
bradley red 1 wrote:Did you see this or are you one of the many on here with a "source"!
What is other peoples opinions on our new chairman drinking in old town with some of the first team players? mmm...
BournemouthRobin
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6:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13
swwindon61uk wrote:Can you tell us your source to confirm Jed and first team players were in Old Town on the sauce???
bradley red 1 wrote:Did you see this or are you one of the many on here with a "source"!
What is other peoples opinions on our new chairman drinking in old town with some of the first team players? mmm...
old town robin
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6:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:To be honest Jez, I don't think the marketing people are actually in sync with how to promote the club, may change now we have a new board, certainly hope so, a few good ideas there, just like ot see the bank open for every home game
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Huddersfield gave away free season tickets to under-11s when they moved to their new ground. Had 1000 take them up on it.
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
Quid a kid is great but depends a kid having someone to take them - £20 is a lot of money if you're not interested in it yourself and are just going because the little 'un wants to go. Maybe a scheme where the club can get CRB checked adults to look after a bunch of kids - teachers taking their class or something - and drop them off somewhere for the parents to pick up after the match?
Also, some flexible pricing. Choose a couple of rubbish looking matches per season and drop the price to a tenner. The £20/£17 deals were all well but play best to people who go already and who might have been a bit "meh" about Hartlepool. Charge a tenner and others might give it a go.
Also think about selling half-season seasons upto Christmas then promote the second half as possible Christmas presents you can give someone.
And what about discounts for block bookings for those people who can't do or can't afford season tickets? What your seat for the next six games? Great - but you only have to pay for five games. Same goes if you want six tickets for the next game, three tickets for both of the next two or two tickets for the next three. Six tickets - pay for five.
If we're doing well you can drop some of these because there would be no seats left, but as long as you don't annoy season ticket holders by making other promotions cheaper (i.e. decide all this up front) then surely getting people in is a good thing? You've got programme sales, food and drink, plus the possibility that they'll come back again.
sp1dersw3b
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6:31pm Mon 25 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Will the FL block any loans until the Shrews are paid their missed instalment?
The loan/permanent move for Marlon Pack needs to be revived as soon as possible.
I realise it might not be straightforward, and part of the attraction to him coming here might have been to play for Paolo, but particularly with Ferry out injured I wish we would try and progress this move as A MATTER OF PRIORITY.
Were loan signings mentioned at the conference?
Oldhamred
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6:32pm Mon 25 Feb 13
bradley red 1 wrote:When you say drinking I assume you mean alcohol.
What is other peoples opinions on our new chairman drinking in old town with some of the first team players? mmm...
Well, if it was limited to 1 or 2, and was merely to celebrate the conclusion of the takeover and 4 points from 6 in difficult circumstances....I have no problem.
If however, they are doing the rounds every Friday/Saturday then it would be a different story.
I think the players and the new owners have got far more respect for the club, the fans, and themselves to go down that road.
Rumours, rumours, rumours.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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6:36pm Mon 25 Feb 13
stfcknowitall wrote:This.
International Robin2 wrote:I wouldn't sign this to save my life. Paolo's gone, get over it..he's burnt his bridges and anyone with a bit of sense would know that.
LADIES AND GENTS! A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking!!!! http://ww w.ipetitions.co m/petition/bringpaol oback/ LET'S WIN THE LEAGUE!
I think McCrory would have been better off saying he isn't coming back unless there's some sort of ongoing legal stuff that he couldn't talk about (i.e. Di Canio broke his contract but we'll let him walk without any compensation from a new club if waives any claim he *might* have and promises to shut up).
I also think any Di Canio return would actually be more divisive with fans than a lot of people might at first think.
King Red
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6:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13
International Robin2 wrote:So he can walk away again when he feels like it!
LADIES AND GENTS!
A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking!!!!
http://ww
w.ipetitions.co
m/petition/bringpaol
oback/
LET'S WIN THE LEAGUE!
NewburyRobin
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6:40pm Mon 25 Feb 13
BillyLucas4me
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6:41pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Sell season ticket holders a bonus ticket for a friend at £7 or £8 or whatever reasonable price works.
BillyLucas4me
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6:41pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Sell season ticket holders a bonus ticket for a friend at £7 or £8 or whatever reasonable price works.
the don69
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6:42pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:Well I can tell you Den!the other prospective buyers wanted Black to put the club into Administration and pick-up the pieces on the cheap!Jed and his Gang,went the extra mile and were prepared pay more to keep us out of admin!so you and many others are being very disingenuous by saying this is shadowy and anonymous and doesn't feel right!would it have been right to go into Admin?just to please you and a few others who think this don't FEEL RIGHT?????????????
the don69 wrote:Don, there might not be anything technically wrong with it. I'm just saying it doesn't feel right. There are plenty of people who thought Black was wrong to have a "hands off" approach. These people are going one step further and staying anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:The Football League were Happy Den!and it seemed right to them!if it was Shadowy and Anonymous?what's the point of the league's fit and proper?if this wrong as you and Brad think,the League will have a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
SAPFanSTFC
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6:47pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:This is a very fair point - fans are attracted to the club through attractive football over several seasons - I've witnessed 5 people saying that they will now come back to watch us more regularly......and then....!!!??
LeGod wrote:I think it takes an awful lot of time to build up a fanbase. Pretty sure I read somewhere that it took Reading ten years to get from the sort of level we're at to what they've got now.
weve all said it on here numerous times but we should have had over 10k for the game on saturday when we are top of the league it should have happenned. Preston had just under 1k so we cant see to get away from the normal crowd size on matchdays.
I hope we are going to get some positive feedback from the new board today and not smoke screens.
we have an important run in now and some tough away games coming up so if they are serious about getting into the championship then they need to act quickly in getting in additional players and a quality manager.
Everything seems to laid back at the moment and the momentum needs to get going.
Obviously being in a higher division helps a lot, but people get in/get out of the habit of going to the CG regularly.
The killer factor for ST is that if we start to do well we haven't got the capacity to cash in. Even if it's just for a cup match v ManYoo or Arsenal we can't get more than another 3000 or soTown fans than we normally do, so the benefits of a big cup match in terms of attracting new fans is also small.
We might not fill a 20,000 CG in the FLC every week but we could sometimes - so we can start to draw more fans in, even if it's not every week (at least to begin with).
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.....as per bluddy usual we shoot ourselves in the foot with yet another 'unexpected episode'....from Play-Offs to relegation or from near top of the league to near Admin....it all serves to put a blip into the progress.
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Regardless of your view Paolo was a big draw and more so the football and commitment on the pitch....if we don't pick up from where he left off...whoever that is.....then we will lose yet another batch of potential new fans....we've already been set back 6 months on that score following the recent events.
Jeremy Hilary Boob
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6:48pm Mon 25 Feb 13
old town robin wrote:I think successive boards have been a bit rubbish at marketing the club.
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:To be honest Jez, I don't think the marketing people are actually in sync with how to promote the club, may change now we have a new board, certainly hope so, a few good ideas there, just like ot see the bank open for every home game
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Huddersfield gave away free season tickets to under-11s when they moved to their new ground. Had 1000 take them up on it.
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
Quid a kid is great but depends a kid having someone to take them - £20 is a lot of money if you're not interested in it yourself and are just going because the little 'un wants to go. Maybe a scheme where the club can get CRB checked adults to look after a bunch of kids - teachers taking their class or something - and drop them off somewhere for the parents to pick up after the match?
Also, some flexible pricing. Choose a couple of rubbish looking matches per season and drop the price to a tenner. The £20/£17 deals were all well but play best to people who go already and who might have been a bit "meh" about Hartlepool. Charge a tenner and others might give it a go.
Also think about selling half-season seasons upto Christmas then promote the second half as possible Christmas presents you can give someone.
And what about discounts for block bookings for those people who can't do or can't afford season tickets? What your seat for the next six games? Great - but you only have to pay for five games. Same goes if you want six tickets for the next game, three tickets for both of the next two or two tickets for the next three. Six tickets - pay for five.
If we're doing well you can drop some of these because there would be no seats left, but as long as you don't annoy season ticket holders by making other promotions cheaper (i.e. decide all this up front) then surely getting people in is a good thing? You've got programme sales, food and drink, plus the possibility that they'll come back again.
Maybe you need to come from Swindon to pick up on some of the unique factors about the place - all the people who've moved here but who have little affiliation to the town and, in some cases, aren't your typical football supporter (or at least your typical lower league supporter).
There's a lot of potential, but I think they need to be a lot more proactive. I think they could do a lot more with kids.
As for the Bank - I'm just now sure how many people you'd get to pay any sort of money to sit/stand in the open in this day and age. In the short term they'd probably be better off sacrificing the seats at the back to enable them to put a very low roof over it to avoid blocking light to the houses backing onto it (the old Kemlyn Road stand at Anfield had a bizarre roof to do this). In the long term they either need to turn the pitch round or buy up houses on Shrivvy Road.
sp1dersw3b
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6:53pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:Divisive? - no change there then so he may as well come back!
stfcknowitall wrote:This.
International Robin2 wrote:I wouldn't sign this to save my life. Paolo's gone, get over it..he's burnt his bridges and anyone with a bit of sense would know that.
LADIES AND GENTS! A Petition has been created - Let's get in rocking!!!! http://ww w.ipetitions.co m/petition/bringpaol oback/ LET'S WIN THE LEAGUE!
I think McCrory would have been better off saying he isn't coming back unless there's some sort of ongoing legal stuff that he couldn't talk about (i.e. Di Canio broke his contract but we'll let him walk without any compensation from a new club if waives any claim he *might* have and promises to shut up).
I also think any Di Canio return would actually be more divisive with fans than a lot of people might at first think.
Some interesting names on the petition so far including mine there are - Black, Clarke, Caddis, Constable, Dusty Miller and of course Paolo himself.
Football humour - love it!
JHB you may be right with the legal stuff and look forward to one day piecing together all the various elements to this whole story.
London Red
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6:55pm Mon 25 Feb 13
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Remember he was not sacked - he quit and may not want to come back
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Having 10k sing his name and pleading for him to stay did nothing - why will a few signatures on ipetition do anything?
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@ Dreams - still not sure how Wes is so unprofessional? Do footballers have 8pm bedtimes? Would he have been unprofessional staying up and watching MoTD and the FL show?
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Drinking with Jed - no issue if a simple one off bonding exercise
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Also did they have a shandy or two or were they do slammers like there was no tomorrow?
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Then again Reid stopped a coach once after a heavy defeat and got all the Sunderland squad ansolutely **** - after that they went on a great run
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If players booze all the time it is bad but now and again is fine
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Drinkgate was bad not for the boozing but the fact they did it while PdC was flying out due to the death of his mother that day!
HOOKEY
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7:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
avo
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7:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
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We could however find this episode leads to far worse a setback in the long run, but really, at this stage its too early to tell surely?
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Equally though, we have every chance of promotion still, and this could end up being a footballing 'storm in a teacup' when talking about the managerial saga alone.
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My current view on it is that I'm almost prepared to forgive Mr Di Canio and have him return until the end of the season, just to ensure that we at least have somebody on the sidelines to make the important tactical decisions during the games, something that was blatantly missing on Saturday.
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I almost believe I'd rather have anybody right now over nobody as this is where we will throw it away if anywhere, and the new board must realise this if they are seriously considering promotion this season?
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With all that in mind, in 10 games time if we find we have slumped and the attractive style of play has totally deserted us then yes, the long term implications of that in terms of new fans could be terminal, but then that would mean that those new fans had witnessed a lot of what had gone before, and that I find equally hard to believe given the general apathy towards Swindon Town Football club within its catchment areas.
Oi Den!
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7:16pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:Don, I am not being disingenuous at all! I strongly believe that the ownership of all football clubs should be transparent. The fact that other prospective owners wanted to put the club into administration has got nothing to do with it. The new owners may well have gone the extra mile and deserve credit for that. And I'm not just saying they are anonymous. If they don't tell us who they are, then they ARE anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:Well I can tell you Den!the other prospective buyers wanted Black to put the club into Administration and pick-up the pieces on the cheap!Jed and his Gang,went the extra mile and were prepared pay more to keep us out of admin!so you and many others are being very disingenuous by saying this is shadowy and anonymous and doesn't feel right!would it have been right to go into Admin?just to please you and a few others who think this don't FEEL RIGHT?????????????
the don69 wrote:Don, there might not be anything technically wrong with it. I'm just saying it doesn't feel right. There are plenty of people who thought Black was wrong to have a "hands off" approach. These people are going one step further and staying anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:The Football League were Happy Den!and it seemed right to them!if it was Shadowy and Anonymous?what's the point of the league's fit and proper?if this wrong as you and Brad think,the League will have a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
castle9
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7:32pm Mon 25 Feb 13
All those that said they wouldn't go until PDC left have been quiet on expressing their rediscovered loyalty (unless I have missed something).
Another thing that does my head in is all these comments waiting for the CLUB to come up with further initiatives to get people along. WE all have a responsibility. As fans we are the best marketing resource and we need to encourage friends/kids etc to come along and get hooked - just like we did.
Some of the lack of awareness on here is frightening! There are free tickets for under 10s and have been for years and there is a family section!!???
Start by bringing ONE person along tomorrow night. If you want the Club to go places, the only way is to get more people through the gate.
Although I believe we need to build a new/revamped stadium with better facilities to achieve an increase in our fanbase - just like Reading (who were surviving on crowds of 4,000).
mike1990
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7:35pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:they are not anonymous oi den,the league knows who they are,the meaning of the word anonymous-unknown,no
the don69 wrote:Don, I am not being disingenuous at all! I strongly believe that the ownership of all football clubs should be transparent. The fact that other prospective owners wanted to put the club into administration has got nothing to do with it. The new owners may well have gone the extra mile and deserve credit for that. And I'm not just saying they are anonymous. If they don't tell us who they are, then they ARE anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:Well I can tell you Den!the other prospective buyers wanted Black to put the club into Administration and pick-up the pieces on the cheap!Jed and his Gang,went the extra mile and were prepared pay more to keep us out of admin!so you and many others are being very disingenuous by saying this is shadowy and anonymous and doesn't feel right!would it have been right to go into Admin?just to please you and a few others who think this don't FEEL RIGHT?????????????
the don69 wrote:Don, there might not be anything technically wrong with it. I'm just saying it doesn't feel right. There are plenty of people who thought Black was wrong to have a "hands off" approach. These people are going one step further and staying anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:The Football League were Happy Den!and it seemed right to them!if it was Shadowy and Anonymous?what's the point of the league's fit and proper?if this wrong as you and Brad think,the League will have a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
body knows who they are?just because you,me don't know who they are,but the league knows the the other board member know,so they are known.
Doctor red
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7:36pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Oldhamred wrote:Hookey
HOOKEY wrote:Because Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
Were you on that jury the other day?
Ficko!
old town robin
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7:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13
MITTED wrote:don't sound like Dave has too much time for your efforts Mitted, keep up the good work at least you try to do your bit and it gives an insight as to why some parents have other things to do on a saturday afternoon than spend time doing with their children.
themoonraker wrote:What a patronising response! I have the utmost respect for those with GENUINE difficult circumstances but you can bet your bottom dollar that the overwhelming majority would make the effort if ManUre or Chelski were in town. You only have to look back at the bleating from those who couldn't get tickets for the Villa game because they weren't on the club database, which tells us a lot! Periodically, I take 4 or 5 other kids to games as well and in every case, they all want to go regularly but with the exception of one, their parents can't be bothered even though it is well within their respective means to at least take them to the occassional game. At least those kids are now all Town fans! If that is patronising, then I hope a lot more fans can do the same!!!!!
MITTED wrote:good old mitted.....as patronising as usual with no respect for anybody else or their circumstances
Psychedelic Syd wrote:Under 10s go free at the CG and have done for years! The problem is getting their couch-potato parents off their arses to take them to games!
SouthcoastRed wrote:Re schools. I heard that's exactly what MK Dons did when they first moved up to Milton Keynes. Lots of player visits and free tickets for kids for around 3 or 4 seasons and look at their gates now - bigger than ours most weeks. Makes sense to hook them young and once the kids have got a free ticket they drag an adult along with them! We should be getting better gates than we do and this is a good ploy.
I've always believed that swindon need to be much more active in local schools. If the players are going in.... Meeting the kids, training with them and dishing out free tickets, surely the parents have to come along too?
Even if swindon starts out as their 2nd team, they will soon be hooked when they realise they can't get to old Trafford or Stamford bridge.
A good old fashioned hearts and mind psy-ops approach.
Also, as a fan who travels from London for every game I would like to see deals with the rail companies to help with the cost.
I know it gets said a lot, but the fan base for town is potentially huge.
Press conference sounds positive. I am in full support of the new board (what choice do we have). I sincerely hope nick Watkins stays as CEO - he's a rock for us and has been a level head through many a storm.
Coyr's
I take somebody elses youngster because the father can't be a***d. And yes, the dad can afford to go himself.
COYR
COYR
My mum and dad's special day was Sunday to get some peace and quiet, me and my bruv were shipped off to Sunday school to sing Jesus wants me for a sunbeam or all things bright and beautiful, we were all innocent kids in those days. But dad did take me to games on a Saturday, but I was passed down to the front to stand behind the goal. dads didn't need to hold our hands in those days. lol
Winter Sundays were scheite, but come the summer dad played cricket and our Sunday afternoons were brilliant waiting for that coach to pick us up to travel to such outpost as carterton and nailsworth and a stop off at a pub on the way home. happy days.
HOOKEY
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7:49pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Doctor red wrote:Ya i was sat next to you
Oldhamred wrote:Hookey
HOOKEY wrote:Because Newton & Ridley paid for it to be built?????
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
Were you on that jury the other day?
Ficko!
old town robin
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7:54pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:LR, not sure where you heard 10k singing his name, certainly wasn't saturday against PNE.
Love the way some think signing a petition will simply bring PdC back!
.
Remember he was not sacked - he quit and may not want to come back
.
Having 10k sing his name and pleading for him to stay did nothing - why will a few signatures on ipetition do anything?
.
@ Dreams - still not sure how Wes is so unprofessional? Do footballers have 8pm bedtimes? Would he have been unprofessional staying up and watching MoTD and the FL show?
.
Drinking with Jed - no issue if a simple one off bonding exercise
.
Also did they have a shandy or two or were they do slammers like there was no tomorrow?
.
Then again Reid stopped a coach once after a heavy defeat and got all the Sunderland squad ansolutely **** - after that they went on a great run
.
If players booze all the time it is bad but now and again is fine
.
Drinkgate was bad not for the boozing but the fact they did it while PdC was flying out due to the death of his mother that day!
old town robin
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8:00pm Mon 25 Feb 13
HOOKEY wrote:Well there was a horse called Arkell, but think it might have something to do with the brewery at Kingsdown that sponser the stand. if you're old enough, next time you visit a Arkells pub try a 3 B's, if you're having problems with your bowel movements it will help you sort it out.
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
the wizard
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8:16pm Mon 25 Feb 13
old town robin wrote:Did the horse get sponsored by Tesco's.
HOOKEY wrote:Well there was a horse called Arkell, but think it might have something to do with the brewery at Kingsdown that sponser the stand. if you're old enough, next time you visit a Arkells pub try a 3 B's, if you're having problems with your bowel movements it will help you sort it out.
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
the don69
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8:28pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the wizard wrote:Did Old Town have a Burger for his dinner tonight I wonder????
old town robin wrote:Did the horse get sponsored by Tesco's.
HOOKEY wrote:Well there was a horse called Arkell, but think it might have something to do with the brewery at Kingsdown that sponser the stand. if you're old enough, next time you visit a Arkells pub try a 3 B's, if you're having problems with your bowel movements it will help you sort it out.
Why is one of our stands called the arkells stand
the wizard
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8:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Q. What do you call it when an Italian has one arm shorter than the other?
A. A speech impediment.
Q How do you get a sweet little 80-year-old lady to say the 'F' word?
A. Get another sweet little 80-year-old lady to yell, 'BINGO!
A man walks out to the street and catches a taxi just going by.
He gets into the taxi and the cabbie says, "Perfect timing.
You're just like Frank."
Passenger:"Who?"
Cabbie: "Frank Feldman. He's a guy who did everything right all
the time. Like my coming along when you needed a cab, things
happened like that to Frank Feldman every single time."
Passenger: "There are always a few clouds over everybody."
Cabbie: "Not Frank Feldman. He was a terrific athlete. He could
have won the Grand Slam at tennis. He could golf with the pros. He sang
like an opera baritone and danced like a Broadway star and you should
have heard him play the piano. He was an amazing guy."
Passenger: "Sounds like he was something really special."
Cabbie: "There's more ...He had a memory like a computer. He remembered
everybody's birthday. He knew all about wine, which foods to order and which fork
to eat them with. He could fix anything. Not like me. I change a fuse, and
the whole street blacks out. But Frank Feldman, he could do everything
right."
Passenger: "Wow, some guy then."
Cabbie: "He always knew the quickest way to go in traffic and avoid traffic
jams. Not like me, I always seem to get stuck in them. But Frank, he never
made a mistake, and he really knew how to treat a woman and make her feel good.
He would never answer her back even if she was in the wrong; and his
clothing was always immaculate, shoes highly polished too. He was the
perfect man! He never made a mistake. No one could ever measure up to
Frank Feldman."
Passenger: "An amazing fellow. How did you meet him?"
Cabbie: "Well, I never actually met Frank. He died...... I'm married to his @#:}{+**..........
widow."
Okus Road
says...
8:33pm Mon 25 Feb 13
old town robin wrote:That would be the game v Hartlepool
London Red wrote:LR, not sure where you heard 10k singing his name, certainly wasn't saturday against PNE.
Love the way some think signing a petition will simply bring PdC back!
.
Remember he was not sacked - he quit and may not want to come back
.
Having 10k sing his name and pleading for him to stay did nothing - why will a few signatures on ipetition do anything?
.
@ Dreams - still not sure how Wes is so unprofessional? Do footballers have 8pm bedtimes? Would he have been unprofessional staying up and watching MoTD and the FL show?
.
Drinking with Jed - no issue if a simple one off bonding exercise
.
Also did they have a shandy or two or were they do slammers like there was no tomorrow?
.
Then again Reid stopped a coach once after a heavy defeat and got all the Sunderland squad ansolutely **** - after that they went on a great run
.
If players booze all the time it is bad but now and again is fine
.
Drinkgate was bad not for the boozing but the fact they did it while PdC was flying out due to the death of his mother that day!
London Red
says...
8:40pm Mon 25 Feb 13
.
OK I was just over 9k but you get the point - if that didn't make him stay an online petition will do diddly squat!
.
Saw on the other thread the Telegraph has linked Wise with us - I think I must be alone in bein delighted if that was true
.
He certainly had fitness up there with PdC and think he would give us that lift to take us up as Champions
.
Did he play with Ward at Millwall - possible number 2?
London Red
says...
8:41pm Mon 25 Feb 13
.
Though that won't happen
davel4848
says...
8:53pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:Wilkins ? I hope that's a joke.
Or even better Wilkins with Wise!
.
Though that won't happen
glasred
says...
8:56pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Why...because I believe Mc Crory will re appoint PDC very shortly.
Keep with the winning formula,let PDC finish the job he started,and get STFC promoted to the Championship this season.
Sky news seem to agree with this theory and the way is being made for The return of our genious manager!
Come back PDC!!! finish the job....YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!!! COYR!!!!!!
stutest
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8:59pm Mon 25 Feb 13
I think the new board deserve a chance and I for one hope that they can keep the ball rolling. Only time will really tell.
I feel betrayed and let down by PdC and feel that he didn't need to quit when he did. That said I guess I am a bit of a sucker as I would have him back tomorrow (however remote that prospect seems). He c*cked it up and made a mistake, this makes him human along with the rest of us, although I sometimes wonder when I read some of the comments on here!
I would forgive him once and give him a second chance if he wants it of course,
Just look at the possible replacements mentioned so far, they fill me with apathy at least PdC stirred the place up.
I have gone home after every pdc game with a smile on my face either from the performances on the pitch or the post match interviews.
I don't want a safe grey suit to feed me
platitudes and cliches, I want someone with pride and passion and a vision. In my heart I know this won't be PdC but it was interesting while it lasted and a tall order for the next guy.
I will always be a Town fan come hell or high water and whoever gets the job will receive my support.
Players come, managers come and boards come, they all go eventually it's the supporters who make the club.
We are always here to enjoy the highs and take the gut wrenching lows cos thats the lot of a Town fan.
CYR
mikewebb
says...
9:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the wizard wrote:I think our next manager will feel like the cabbie in your joke wiz. Best just hope king paolo comes back. Good joke btw
Time for a giggle today has got too serious.
Q. What do you call it when an Italian has one arm shorter than the other?
A. A speech impediment.
Q How do you get a sweet little 80-year-old lady to say the 'F' word?
A. Get another sweet little 80-year-old lady to yell, 'BINGO!
A man walks out to the street and catches a taxi just going by.
He gets into the taxi and the cabbie says, "Perfect timing.
You're just like Frank."
Passenger:"Who?"
Cabbie: "Frank Feldman. He's a guy who did everything right all
the time. Like my coming along when you needed a cab, things
happened like that to Frank Feldman every single time."
Passenger: "There are always a few clouds over everybody."
Cabbie: "Not Frank Feldman. He was a terrific athlete. He could
have won the Grand Slam at tennis. He could golf with the pros. He sang
like an opera baritone and danced like a Broadway star and you should
have heard him play the piano. He was an amazing guy."
Passenger: "Sounds like he was something really special."
Cabbie: "There's more ...He had a memory like a computer. He remembered
everybody's birthday. He knew all about wine, which foods to order and which fork
to eat them with. He could fix anything. Not like me. I change a fuse, and
the whole street blacks out. But Frank Feldman, he could do everything
right."
Passenger: "Wow, some guy then."
Cabbie: "He always knew the quickest way to go in traffic and avoid traffic
jams. Not like me, I always seem to get stuck in them. But Frank, he never
made a mistake, and he really knew how to treat a woman and make her feel good.
He would never answer her back even if she was in the wrong; and his
clothing was always immaculate, shoes highly polished too. He was the
perfect man! He never made a mistake. No one could ever measure up to
Frank Feldman."
Passenger: "An amazing fellow. How did you meet him?"
Cabbie: "Well, I never actually met Frank. He died...... I'm married to his @#:}{+**..........
widow."
SimonPrice351
says...
9:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Bradley - at risk of being labelled a doom merchant and a Pox/Bummuff fan, I too agree. Something is not sitting right here - and it is not the kebab I had last night!
Banbury fans who I have spoken with have said a few 'choice' things about Jed and he is not Mr. Big Bucks.
I am just hoping Jed and co. are for real and this is not a Munto type deal. If Jed is for real and there is money there then fine, but I will treat this with caution. Perry Deakin on board as well does NOT fillme with enthusiasm.
mikewebb
says...
9:04pm Mon 25 Feb 13
glasred wrote:God i hope your right.
Miller and Ward have been put in charge so as not to disrupt or spoil the "PDC formula at the club"
Why...because I believe Mc Crory will re appoint PDC very shortly.
Keep with the winning formula,let PDC finish the job he started,and get STFC promoted to the Championship this season.
Sky news seem to agree with this theory and the way is being made for The return of our genious manager!
Come back PDC!!! finish the job....YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!!! COYR!!!!!!
glasred
says...
9:07pm Mon 25 Feb 13
A bit flat isnt it...even though we are second in the table with superior goal difference.
Passion got us to the top of the table...and PDC alone provided that!!!
Come back PDC..finish the job!
All the others potential managers mentioned make me feel like going to sleep!!!
Mc Crory and PDC....get together and sort it!!!!! COYR!!!!!!
London Red
says...
9:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
.
What with winning the League Cup, Cup Winners Cup, European Super Cup and FA Cup with Vialli
.
He then was Wise's assistant at Millwall when they reached the FA Cup final
.
He then was assistant for the U21 when they were really good under Taylor
.
He then returned to win the Double at Chelsea with Ancelotti
.
Yeah he would be totally useless for us - what was I thinking!!!
pat.swindon.f.c.
says...
9:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13
new dynamic "Movers and Shakers"at the CG watching his old club,Bury,"The
Shakers"take on the Town.Otherwise the
three "W"sWise(with Ward at Milwall),
Wilkins to see us through to end of this season.........and promotion!!!!
glasred
says...
9:13pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Come back PDC!!!!! COYR!!!!
LydiardRED67
says...
9:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
SimonPrice351 wrote:Where does Perry Deakin fit in. I thoughtvhe was not involved....
Wizard - very funny, thanks for those.
Bradley - at risk of being labelled a doom merchant and a Pox/Bummuff fan, I too agree. Something is not sitting right here - and it is not the kebab I had last night!
Banbury fans who I have spoken with have said a few 'choice' things about Jed and he is not Mr. Big Bucks.
I am just hoping Jed and co. are for real and this is not a Munto type deal. If Jed is for real and there is money there then fine, but I will treat this with caution. Perry Deakin on board as well does NOT fillme with enthusiasm.
old town robin
says...
9:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:Wise would not be a bad shout LR, don't think masterbates ever paid us the compensation when he went to Leeds, probably why we ended up with half their reserves.
No OTR it was against Hartlepool when he was the manager
.
OK I was just over 9k but you get the point - if that didn't make him stay an online petition will do diddly squat!
.
Saw on the other thread the Telegraph has linked Wise with us - I think I must be alone in bein delighted if that was true
.
He certainly had fitness up there with PdC and think he would give us that lift to take us up as Champions
.
Did he play with Ward at Millwall - possible number 2?
Davidsyrett
says...
9:19pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:Agree with you there LR, people seem to forget (or conveniently ignore) that PdC walked out on us, as Jed said he was staggered that DiCanio left, after all the emotional plea's from the fans to stay.
Love the way some think signing a petition will simply bring PdC back!
.
Remember he was not sacked - he quit and may not want to come back
.
Having 10k sing his name and pleading for him to stay did nothing - why will a few signatures on ipetition do anything?
.
@ Dreams - still not sure how Wes is so unprofessional? Do footballers have 8pm bedtimes? Would he have been unprofessional staying up and watching MoTD and the FL show?
.
Drinking with Jed - no issue if a simple one off bonding exercise
.
Also did they have a shandy or two or were they do slammers like there was no tomorrow?
.
Then again Reid stopped a coach once after a heavy defeat and got all the Sunderland squad ansolutely **** - after that they went on a great run
.
If players booze all the time it is bad but now and again is fine
.
Drinkgate was bad not for the boozing but the fact they did it while PdC was flying out due to the death of his mother that day!
I'm not sure I would welcome him back now, but if he does I would expect a full apology to the Fans and club and a cast iron agreement that he would stay until the end of his contract.
I don't see a problem with the odd drink or a bit of team bonding, but the players have been seen out drinking quite a few times in Town since DiCanio left, I don't want to go back to the old days, Ward & Miller must put down a 72hr curfew before games!
mikewebb
says...
9:21pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:But we're looking for a manager not a no 2. remember Gorman, a great no 2 may not step up so well
Why a joke? Wilkins is an excellent coach and has a great record
.
What with winning the League Cup, Cup Winners Cup, European Super Cup and FA Cup with Vialli
.
He then was Wise's assistant at Millwall when they reached the FA Cup final
.
He then was assistant for the U21 when they were really good under Taylor
.
He then returned to win the Double at Chelsea with Ancelotti
.
Yeah he would be totally useless for us - what was I thinking!!!
Tomcat 1944
says...
9:25pm Mon 25 Feb 13
mancrobin
says...
9:26pm Mon 25 Feb 13
mike1990 wrote:Den, I think you just been hit with a passing shot while moving in to the net.
Oi Den! wrote:they are not anonymous oi den,the league knows who they are,the meaning of the word anonymous-unknown,no
the don69 wrote:Don, I am not being disingenuous at all! I strongly believe that the ownership of all football clubs should be transparent. The fact that other prospective owners wanted to put the club into administration has got nothing to do with it. The new owners may well have gone the extra mile and deserve credit for that. And I'm not just saying they are anonymous. If they don't tell us who they are, then they ARE anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:Well I can tell you Den!the other prospective buyers wanted Black to put the club into Administration and pick-up the pieces on the cheap!Jed and his Gang,went the extra mile and were prepared pay more to keep us out of admin!so you and many others are being very disingenuous by saying this is shadowy and anonymous and doesn't feel right!would it have been right to go into Admin?just to please you and a few others who think this don't FEEL RIGHT?????????????
the don69 wrote:Don, there might not be anything technically wrong with it. I'm just saying it doesn't feel right. There are plenty of people who thought Black was wrong to have a "hands off" approach. These people are going one step further and staying anonymous.
Oi Den! wrote:The Football League were Happy Den!and it seemed right to them!if it was Shadowy and Anonymous?what's the point of the league's fit and proper?if this wrong as you and Brad think,the League will have a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley red 1 wrote:Good point. It makes everything seem very shadowy. I have no objection to a major investor staying in the background, as Black preferred to do, but remaining anonymous is another thing entirely. Doesn't seem right to me.
So after that press conference we know nothing! not impressed at all and although it is early days this guy can not believe he is chairman of swindon town and or can i!,why mention about luton town? time will tell but on first impressions, instincts,this could go wrong just because black wanted a quick sale and these people were keen to get the deal done,who are the companies backing the club? we should know in my opinion.
body knows who they are?just because you,me don't know who they are,but the league knows the the other board member know,so they are known.
Apologies for mixing my sports.
SouthcoastRed
says...
9:33pm Mon 25 Feb 13
castle9 wrote:Offering free tickets to under 10's is in no way the same as players and club representatives actively going in to schools to promote the club.
When we get round to appointing a manager just wait for the ''I'm not going again until so and so leaves''!
All those that said they wouldn't go until PDC left have been quiet on expressing their rediscovered loyalty (unless I have missed something).
Another thing that does my head in is all these comments waiting for the CLUB to come up with further initiatives to get people along. WE all have a responsibility. As fans we are the best marketing resource and we need to encourage friends/kids etc to come along and get hooked - just like we did.
Some of the lack of awareness on here is frightening! There are free tickets for under 10s and have been for years and there is a family section!!???
Start by bringing ONE person along tomorrow night. If you want the Club to go places, the only way is to get more people through the gate.
Although I believe we need to build a new/revamped stadium with better facilities to achieve an increase in our fanbase - just like Reading (who were surviving on crowds of 4,000).
By offering free tickets the responsibility will be upon an adult to bring a child (thus the adult already has an interest in the club).... however, by promoting the club in schools you can enthuse the child to put pressure on their parents to bring them...Its also a low cost venture.
I agree that bringing someone to a game is a good way of promoting the club. However, it is not practical for people like me who make a 170m round trip each week.
I do my bit. Every member of my 8-man team at work has a swindon town mug. We could afford to put a roof on the stratton bank with the money I've pumped in to the club buying crockery.
Lambourn Red
says...
9:35pm Mon 25 Feb 13
LydiardRED67 wrote:He does not as he is not involved with this consortium. Jed has already stated publicly on a number of occasions that Deakin is not part of the group
SimonPrice351 wrote:Where does Perry Deakin fit in. I thoughtvhe was not involved....
Wizard - very funny, thanks for those.
Bradley - at risk of being labelled a doom merchant and a Pox/Bummuff fan, I too agree. Something is not sitting right here - and it is not the kebab I had last night!
Banbury fans who I have spoken with have said a few 'choice' things about Jed and he is not Mr. Big Bucks.
I am just hoping Jed and co. are for real and this is not a Munto type deal. If Jed is for real and there is money there then fine, but I will treat this with caution. Perry Deakin on board as well does NOT fillme with enthusiasm.
Oxon-Red
says...
9:36pm Mon 25 Feb 13
One thing for sure, the new board are on a hiding to nothing. If they hire a new man and we fail to gain promotion there will be desenting voices.
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COYMR
Mobyok
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10:07pm Mon 25 Feb 13
We do not have the luxury of time as McCrory seems to think. There is just a couple of points separating the top teams. Unless we act very quickly and get the right manager and some quality loans in soon, we will find ourselves outside the play offs and struggling to catch up.
Please Mr McCrory, stop trying to appease the fan's by desperately trying to present yourself in the right light and saying all the right things. I will believe you have the best intentions for our club when you go all out to maintain our promotion push, even if it hurts.
old town robin
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10:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13
London Red wrote:I don't think it was a bad shout LR, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but never did understand why he lost his job there, I think his best asset with Ancelotti was being the intermediate between the management and players, obviously didn't go down with those that got rid of him.
Why a joke? Wilkins is an excellent coach and has a great record
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What with winning the League Cup, Cup Winners Cup, European Super Cup and FA Cup with Vialli
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He then was Wise's assistant at Millwall when they reached the FA Cup final
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He then was assistant for the U21 when they were really good under Taylor
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He then returned to win the Double at Chelsea with Ancelotti
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Yeah he would be totally useless for us - what was I thinking!!!
London Red
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10:10pm Mon 25 Feb 13
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What I said was I would be delighted with a Wise / Wilkins combo
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We would then have contacts at Brighton, Watford and Blackpool as well as Chelsea to get loanees in to boost the squad and push us over the line
old town robin
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10:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13
LydiardRED67 wrote:Well unless Lydiardred know something we don't, he's not!
SimonPrice351 wrote:Where does Perry Deakin fit in. I thoughtvhe was not involved....
Wizard - very funny, thanks for those.
Bradley - at risk of being labelled a doom merchant and a Pox/Bummuff fan, I too agree. Something is not sitting right here - and it is not the kebab I had last night!
Banbury fans who I have spoken with have said a few 'choice' things about Jed and he is not Mr. Big Bucks.
I am just hoping Jed and co. are for real and this is not a Munto type deal. If Jed is for real and there is money there then fine, but I will treat this with caution. Perry Deakin on board as well does NOT fillme with enthusiasm.
TheDukeOfBanbury
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10:34pm Mon 25 Feb 13
glasred wrote:Yes please bring back the best thing to happen to our Club in years.
Wheres all the energy and enthusiasm gone folks?!!
A bit flat isnt it...even though we are second in the table with superior goal difference.
Passion got us to the top of the table...and PDC alone provided that!!!
Come back PDC..finish the job!
All the others potential managers mentioned make me feel like going to sleep!!!
Mc Crory and PDC....get together and sort it!!!!! COYR!!!!!!
Sick to death with the depressing and boring past.
It made travelling away fun again rather than I must go because I am a loyal supporter.
SimonPrice351
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10:39pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the wizard
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10:52pm Mon 25 Feb 13
John Still is expected to leave League Two side Dagenham & Redbridge to become boss at non-league Luton Town.
And then it continues.... etc
IKEA has found horse meat in its meatballs, perhaps that is why men are allegedly hung like a horse in Sweden, and the females randy mares.
Guv
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10:56pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the don69
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11:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Guv wrote:Yeah after midnight!he's going to pick the new lock!forgot one of his photo's!!!!!!!!!
The news I have is PDC is coming back!
louiscassius
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11:16pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Your joking me???
bivver
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11:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13
When our club nearly went into receivership when we needed cool heads and determination, he had a hissy fit and walked out.
He has shown what his idea of loyalty is and it's worth jack sh!t
louiscassius
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11:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Guv wrote:Shut up you freak
The news I have is PDC is coming back!
the wizard
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11:50pm Mon 25 Feb 13
How are you ? hope you have had a better day today. Not much news, then again I don't think these guys have ever done a press conference before so probably pooing them selves. I think we will get more in drips and drabs over the next few weeks as they settle in. Have a good one mate, cheers.
billbst
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12:04am Tue 26 Feb 13
joey butler
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12:08am Tue 26 Feb 13
Guv wrote:Guv,
The news I have is PDC is coming back!
i must admit that despite all your previous totally inaccurate and rubbish posts, you have finally called this one right.
Yes, PDC is in fact coming back to Swindon and will be signing copies of his new book on Saturday afternoon.
You can find him in WH Smith, as he now has exclusive rights to Chapter 2 of the shortest book in The World.
The Italian Book of War Heroes does indeed feature PDC in the second chapter and his very limited contribution is ghost written for him as usual by his trusty agent, Phil Spencer!!
the wizard
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12:09am Tue 26 Feb 13
billbst wrote:Did you notice the reference to Edgar Davids on one of the other threads, currently doing a decent job at Barnet. I thought he was a decent shout.
Late catching up again but a few points clearer now. Without Jed & Co we would have been into admin with a fire sale of players and probably a min of 20 point deduction. Confirmed from enough angles now. Therefore thank you Jed. Mystery backers authenticated by the FL against a 3 year plan is reassuring even though we know little about the plan. No ground development yet. Jed remains a Luton supporter. Paolo's ghost is still doing the rounds possibly with a new set of keys. This forum is killing me because there is so much to read when you have been away for a day. It was much easier just a few months back. Wonder if it will lead to increased gates or just more non paying non playing managers.
billbst
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12:21am Tue 26 Feb 13
the wizard wrote:I did Wiz. Not one I had thought about at all. Not even sure if he has a contract at Barnet. So interesting. The way Jed is working with Wardy and Dusty he might end up asking them who they would like to come in to support them until the end of the season. A Lennie Lawrence look alike. Doubt the real thing could be prised away from Bolton.
billbst wrote:Did you notice the reference to Edgar Davids on one of the other threads, currently doing a decent job at Barnet. I thought he was a decent shout.
Late catching up again but a few points clearer now. Without Jed & Co we would have been into admin with a fire sale of players and probably a min of 20 point deduction. Confirmed from enough angles now. Therefore thank you Jed. Mystery backers authenticated by the FL against a 3 year plan is reassuring even though we know little about the plan. No ground development yet. Jed remains a Luton supporter. Paolo's ghost is still doing the rounds possibly with a new set of keys. This forum is killing me because there is so much to read when you have been away for a day. It was much easier just a few months back. Wonder if it will lead to increased gates or just more non paying non playing managers.
SouthcoastRed
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1:02am Tue 26 Feb 13
He's back to 2nd favourite with Teasdale no. 1
stfc2012
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5:50am Tue 26 Feb 13
glasred
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6:01am Tue 26 Feb 13
You lot get real...bring back PDC... Now!!!
swwindon61uk
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9:46am Tue 26 Feb 13
Guv wrote:Pity you could not tell us that PDC had handed in his notice that Tuesday or that the new board had to re-summit their application and that we owe money to Shrewsbury.
The news I have is PDC is coming back!
Still you have a safe one here as you have 50% chance of being right..
swwindon61uk
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9:50am Tue 26 Feb 13
glasred wrote:Many managers with PDC's budget would have got us the title last year,Paul Sturrock did it on a lot less.
Miserable doomongers who have forgotton THIS QUICKLY that without PDC we would be still sitting in Div 2 with 4k gates..not 2nd in L1.
You lot get real...bring back PDC... Now!!!
Gates would still have been 7000 with our without PDC/
And to let you know i will be more than happy to see PDC back.
But i would like a decision one way or another very quickly now.
swwindon61uk
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9:52am Tue 26 Feb 13
Oxon-Red wrote:Agreed,there will always be descenting voices though.
If Paolo comes back I will support him and the team. If he doesn't I will support the new man and the team.
One thing for sure, the new board are on a hiding to nothing. If they hire a new man and we fail to gain promotion there will be desenting voices.
BREAKING NEWS:
Mothercare have removed their Bumper Play food pack from sale after traces of Rocking Horse DNA was found in the burgers.
COYMR
If PDC does come back we also might not go up,our away run in is the as tough as it gets with or without him.
this/is/it
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10:58am Tue 26 Feb 13
according to bookmakers, Dennis Wise is back in the running for the managers job!!!!

Robinonfire says...
10:15am Mon 25 Feb 13