Town hit back in Tehoue race row (From Swindon Advertiser)

bowralbob wrote:
I'm over it already.

Old news as far as I'm concerned.

Totally behind PDC and STFC.

Lazaat wrote:
I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

Swindon1984 wrote:
Off topic (but I'm bored of this whole thing now - and it seems it's been totally misreported by the BBC).

I see Jamie Cureton's been released by Orient - worth a punt as a back up striker? I know it may look like a step backwards but he has always had a knack of scoring goals and his last spell at Exeter was reasonably successful (Orient less so). Just a thought.

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote:
I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote:
I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign......

But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft......

But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out.

But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!!

I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales???

HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe..


...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there.....

Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing.........

Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!!

Louis :-((((

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote:
I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign......

But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft......

But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out.

But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!!

I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales???

HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe..


...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there.....

Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing.........

Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!!

Louis :-((((

London Red wrote:
So the alleged mark was passed on to JT via a 3rd party!
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Right if it's that easy I think I might join in and try and win some cash!!!!
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Even if PdC did blow his top and say where is that lazy (fill in what you like)? I hope this 3rd party who told him is fired! If they didn't like it they should have gone straight to JW and kept it all in house

old town robin wrote:

London Red wrote:
So the alleged mark was passed on to JT via a 3rd party!
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Right if it's that easy I think I might join in and try and win some cash!!!!
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Even if PdC did blow his top and say where is that lazy (fill in what you like)? I hope this 3rd party who told him is fired! If they didn't like it they should have gone straight to JW and kept it all in house

My thoughts as well, what kind of person would repeat something that he or she may have over heard, even if Paolo did make a comment, it is Tahoue who didn't turn up for training without an explanation. I also hope they find the tittle taatler and take the approbriate action.

wiltshirered64 wrote:

old town robin wrote:

London Red wrote:
So the alleged mark was passed on to JT via a 3rd party!
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Right if it's that easy I think I might join in and try and win some cash!!!!
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Even if PdC did blow his top and say where is that lazy (fill in what you like)? I hope this 3rd party who told him is fired! If they didn't like it they should have gone straight to JW and kept it all in house

My thoughts as well, what kind of person would repeat something that he or she may have over heard, even if Paolo did make a comment, it is Tahoue who didn't turn up for training without an explanation. I also hope they find the tittle taatler and take the approbriate action.

This is we need this to be resolved, ASAP. We need to know if pdc is signing and get on with Pre- season. This is another Clarke senario, it just puts a downer on our club and season. No one knows if or what was said to the player if pdc did say a racial comment then He will have to face the music if not then let's get on with what matters here!

London Red wrote:
I did miss that - I thought PdC had meant to ha said it to him directly

So if this is the case why is there even an investigation or legal case - the FA visit the club or call players X Y and Z in (as JW did) ask them and then conclude
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Right or wrong if multiple people say it never happened you have to go with that!
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JT is probably doing more harm for black players than good here - I bet PdC / STFC will think twice about signing ohers in case they get accused again - the old smoke with out fire situation!

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote:
I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign......

But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft......

But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out.

But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!!

I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales???

HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe..


...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there.....

Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing.........

Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!!

Louis :-((((

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote: I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign...... But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft...... But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out. But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!! I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales??? HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe.. ...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there..... Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing......... Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!! Louis :-((((

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I think the Adver needs to look up the meaning of "hierarchy".

Oxon-Red wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote: I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign...... But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft...... But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out. But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!! I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales??? HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe.. ...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there..... Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing......... Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!! Louis :-((((

The season has only been over a few weeks and Paolo has had probably the hardest 12 months of his life emotionally. My guess is he is catching up with the family matters that he missed out on doing at the time.

I hope he has had three/four weeks completely away from football to recharge his batteries.

COYMR

stfc2467 wrote:
The fact that he may of made the comment to a third party is no excuse, and is some ways makes it's worse. If PDC did make a racist comment, and it would seem that he did say something, then this is very wrong in any work place and I will not defend him, and neither should the club.

Oi Den! wrote:

London Red wrote: I did miss that - I thought PdC had meant to ha said it to him directly So if this is the case why is there even an investigation or legal case - the FA visit the club or call players X Y and Z in (as JW did) ask them and then conclude . Right or wrong if multiple people say it never happened you have to go with that! . JT is probably doing more harm for black players than good here - I bet PdC / STFC will think twice about signing ohers in case they get accused again - the old smoke with out fire situation!

I think you are probably right with most of that. But what if several people say it did happen? . I could be wrong about this, but I think this is more a question of law than football. Even if the FA have already concluded that there is no case to answer, there is nothing they can do to prevent Tehoue from pursuing a claim through the legal system. . It's interesting that so many people are convinced that PDC has done no wrong without knowing the facts. As I said, my gut feeling is that we will come out of this OK. But we can hardly have a justice system based on gut feeling. I would rather let justice take its course than rush to presume guilt or innocence. . Wrongly accusing Tehoue of lying about racism would be just as bad as wrongly accusing PDC of racism.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

Micky Hazard's left flip flop wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

London Red wrote: I did miss that - I thought PdC had meant to ha said it to him directly So if this is the case why is there even an investigation or legal case - the FA visit the club or call players X Y and Z in (as JW did) ask them and then conclude . Right or wrong if multiple people say it never happened you have to go with that! . JT is probably doing more harm for black players than good here - I bet PdC / STFC will think twice about signing ohers in case they get accused again - the old smoke with out fire situation!

I think you are probably right with most of that. But what if several people say it did happen? . I could be wrong about this, but I think this is more a question of law than football. Even if the FA have already concluded that there is no case to answer, there is nothing they can do to prevent Tehoue from pursuing a claim through the legal system. . It's interesting that so many people are convinced that PDC has done no wrong without knowing the facts. As I said, my gut feeling is that we will come out of this OK. But we can hardly have a justice system based on gut feeling. I would rather let justice take its course than rush to presume guilt or innocence. . Wrongly accusing Tehoue of lying about racism would be just as bad as wrongly accusing PDC of racism.

Not sure what he would be pursuing a claim for. If didn't turn up for training (seemingly before any aledged comment), then he would have been in breach of his employment contract. end of.
If PDC had determined he wasn't good enough based on his appearances and performance in training, then again, that's the end of the matter - Tehoue was hardly the only player that PDC didn't rate in the season (of all colours I might add).
From a personal perspective, I saw him play a couple of times and thought he was poor.

I hope PDC is recharging the batteries in Italy at the moment, and staying away from all this silly season nonsense

rockdog wrote:
Totally behind JWray, Paolo and STFC.

Can anyone confirm without doubt that Holmes has gone to Preston?

the don69 wrote:

Micky Hazard's left flip flop wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

London Red wrote: I did miss that - I thought PdC had meant to ha said it to him directly So if this is the case why is there even an investigation or legal case - the FA visit the club or call players X Y and Z in (as JW did) ask them and then conclude . Right or wrong if multiple people say it never happened you have to go with that! . JT is probably doing more harm for black players than good here - I bet PdC / STFC will think twice about signing ohers in case they get accused again - the old smoke with out fire situation!

I think you are probably right with most of that. But what if several people say it did happen? . I could be wrong about this, but I think this is more a question of law than football. Even if the FA have already concluded that there is no case to answer, there is nothing they can do to prevent Tehoue from pursuing a claim through the legal system. . It's interesting that so many people are convinced that PDC has done no wrong without knowing the facts. As I said, my gut feeling is that we will come out of this OK. But we can hardly have a justice system based on gut feeling. I would rather let justice take its course than rush to presume guilt or innocence. . Wrongly accusing Tehoue of lying about racism would be just as bad as wrongly accusing PDC of racism.

Not sure what he would be pursuing a claim for. If didn't turn up for training (seemingly before any aledged comment), then he would have been in breach of his employment contract. end of.
If PDC had determined he wasn't good enough based on his appearances and performance in training, then again, that's the end of the matter - Tehoue was hardly the only player that PDC didn't rate in the season (of all colours I might add).
From a personal perspective, I saw him play a couple of times and thought he was poor.

I hope PDC is recharging the batteries in Italy at the moment, and staying away from all this silly season nonsense

What worries me!is that J-Wray and Paolo even signed Tehoue!I said he was just a very slow Carthorse'when were about to sign him!must do more research on new signings,can't afford to make these mistakes with new signings!who are the SCOUTS??????

Swindon1984 wrote:
Off topic (but I'm bored of this whole thing now - and it seems it's been totally misreported by the BBC).

I see Jamie Cureton's been released by Orient - worth a punt as a back up striker? I know it may look like a step backwards but he has always had a knack of scoring goals and his last spell at Exeter was reasonably successful (Orient less so). Just a thought.

mrwoo wrote:
Of course he said something and so would I. Would imagine along the lines of "lazy ***** c***.
It's name calling ffs the world has gone mad.
Gene Hunt wouldn't stand for this sh1t. Bring back the 1980's.

London Red wrote:
Den - If multiple people had said it happened - surely JW would have heard that too during his investigations?
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That is why I beleive PdC is innocent as JW is a man of integrity and if he says he has investigated it fully and found no merit - then that is good enough for me!
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This must be a football matter like Suarez or Hylton - compared to Terry who is facing a People Vs case

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Micky Hazard's left flip flop wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

London Red wrote: I did miss that - I thought PdC had meant to ha said it to him directly So if this is the case why is there even an investigation or legal case - the FA visit the club or call players X Y and Z in (as JW did) ask them and then conclude . Right or wrong if multiple people say it never happened you have to go with that! . JT is probably doing more harm for black players than good here - I bet PdC / STFC will think twice about signing ohers in case they get accused again - the old smoke with out fire situation!

I think you are probably right with most of that. But what if several people say it did happen? . I could be wrong about this, but I think this is more a question of law than football. Even if the FA have already concluded that there is no case to answer, there is nothing they can do to prevent Tehoue from pursuing a claim through the legal system. . It's interesting that so many people are convinced that PDC has done no wrong without knowing the facts. As I said, my gut feeling is that we will come out of this OK. But we can hardly have a justice system based on gut feeling. I would rather let justice take its course than rush to presume guilt or innocence. . Wrongly accusing Tehoue of lying about racism would be just as bad as wrongly accusing PDC of racism.

Not sure what he would be pursuing a claim for. If didn't turn up for training (seemingly before any aledged comment), then he would have been in breach of his employment contract. end of.
If PDC had determined he wasn't good enough based on his appearances and performance in training, then again, that's the end of the matter - Tehoue was hardly the only player that PDC didn't rate in the season (of all colours I might add).
From a personal perspective, I saw him play a couple of times and thought he was poor.

I hope PDC is recharging the batteries in Italy at the moment, and staying away from all this silly season nonsense

What worries me!is that J-Wray and Paolo even signed Tehoue!I said he was just a very slow Carthorse'when were about to sign him!must do more research on new signings,can't afford to make these mistakes with new signings!who are the SCOUTS??????

They have a hut next to the cubs......

mrwoo wrote:
Of course he said something and so would I. Would imagine along the lines of "lazy ***** c***.
It's name calling ffs the world has gone mad.
Gene Hunt wouldn't stand for this sh1t. Bring back the 1980's.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Steve you won't be tired of it when you we get promoted again!

I'd like to take the opportunity to take a straw poll of my learned friends on here. Macca to play centre half or centre midfield? I'm firmly in the former camp. If people could add their scores and lets see where we get to at the end of the day. Home team defender away team midfielder.

Score 1-0

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

Med Red wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

I think we need to get this issue into some kind of perspective here. Hypothetical talk of Paolo and JW resigning cos of some accusation by a vindictive ex loan player is bloody ridiculous. And what is this terrible accusation.... allegedly Paolo referred to Tehoe by the colour of his skin (black). That's racist is it? No, I don’t think so, I'll tell you what it is.... political correctness gone mad, if you can’t refer to someone by the colour of their skin. Perhaps the word "black" should be banned? Then no one can ever be accused of being racist again.

Med Red wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

I think we need to get this issue into some kind of perspective here. Hypothetical talk of Paolo and JW resigning cos of some accusation by a vindictive ex loan player is bloody ridiculous. And what is this terrible accusation.... allegedly Paolo referred to Tehoe by the colour of his skin (black). That's racist is it? No, I don’t think so, I'll tell you what it is.... political correctness gone mad, if you can’t refer to someone by the colour of their skin. Perhaps the word "black" should be banned? Then no one can ever be accused of being racist again.

wiltshirered64 wrote:

mrwoo wrote:
Of course he said something and so would I. Would imagine along the lines of "lazy ***** c***.
It's name calling ffs the world has gone mad.
Gene Hunt wouldn't stand for this sh1t. Bring back the 1980's.

No your wrong a lazy c**t is name calling when you put black in the equation then it's racial, look at the John terry case. If your manager is calling it then that's a different issue when the f.a are trying to stamp out racism in football.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Steve you won't be tired of it when you we get promoted again!

I'd like to take the opportunity to take a straw poll of my learned friends on here. Macca to play centre half or centre midfield? I'm firmly in the former camp. If people could add their scores and lets see where we get to at the end of the day. Home team defender away team midfielder.

Score 1-0

Oi Den! wrote:

Med Red wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

I think we need to get this issue into some kind of perspective here. Hypothetical talk of Paolo and JW resigning cos of some accusation by a vindictive ex loan player is bloody ridiculous. And what is this terrible accusation.... allegedly Paolo referred to Tehoe by the colour of his skin (black). That's racist is it? No, I don’t think so, I'll tell you what it is.... political correctness gone mad, if you can’t refer to someone by the colour of their skin. Perhaps the word "black" should be banned? Then no one can ever be accused of being racist again.

You ask for perspective and then demonstrate a total lack of it!
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Of course there is nothing wrong with using the word "black". It all depends on the way it is used. If it's part of a description, fine. Nobody is going to complain about that. But if it's part of a abuse or ridicule that is another matter.
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I disagree with Stroud STFC. I don't think there is anything to suggest that the FA have it in for PDC or us or smaller clubs in general. PDC overstepped the mark a few times last season and the FA responded with a reasonable penalty each time. The only time I can recall feeling we'd had unreasonable treatment of us by the FA was when Jonathan Douglas had his ban increased on appeal after being sent off against Millwall. What else has there been?

the wizard wrote:
The sun is out once more and I have compiled a wish list.

1) Town to sign two good solid forward men to aid Benson in the League One assault.

2)Town to sign Bostock on what ever deal we can get, loan or otherwise, and McEverley, as he does look the biz

3)Paolo to find and sign suitable additional players that suit his style and philosophy.

4)The contentious issues of last week and this to be resolved in good manner with no stain on the club or its reputation.

5)PDC to sign for a further two seasons, and for the work to start on the stadium this time next year.

6) For our wonderful friend Louis not to panic in the close season as he gets me jittery in case his theories come true.
Cheers buddy, you are a good man. Stay off that blumin rumour site, you make me nervous !!!!

Lanky wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote: I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign...... But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft...... But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out. But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!! I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales??? HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe.. ...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there..... Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing......... Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!! Louis :-((((

The season has only been over a few weeks and Paolo has had probably the hardest 12 months of his life emotionally. My guess is he is catching up with the family matters that he missed out on doing at the time.

I hope he has had three/four weeks completely away from football to recharge his batteries.

COYMR

Good point and good post. Basically louis's comments are just all completely made up in his head - because nothing has been heard whilst Paolo is on holiday!

Stroud STFC wrote:
Why do some posters think this is closed season nonsense?? This is very serious for our club. it's not going away by some of you 'wishing' it would and looks likely that PDC will not be coming back...scare mongering?..no, the probable outcome I'm affraid, it wont go away - the FA are going for us & PDC, they like to make examples of small clubs as we have all seen in the past, in addition they don't like PDC.

International Robin2 wrote:
I bumped into a TV news reader last night at work, who I see every now and then and discuss Swindon with... He said, the media circles are waiting like vultures pretty much as Paolo has demanded the club back him 100%, which they are doing.. However, the club will find it hard to back him 100% if the FA find him guilty of racism, which would lead to Swindon being forced to issue a disciplinary for Paolo and would see him resign.

It's 50/50 if Paolo is here come the end of the summer and the summer signings are on hold until the FA have concluded their investigations..

It wasn't the greatest of news I was hoping for.. Saying that, he was from the BBC and going on the article the BBC published which seems well wide of the mark, I hope for Swindon Town he has no idea what he's talking about!

the wizard wrote:

International Robin2 wrote: I bumped into a TV news reader last night at work, who I see every now and then and discuss Swindon with... He said, the media circles are waiting like vultures pretty much as Paolo has demanded the club back him 100%, which they are doing.. However, the club will find it hard to back him 100% if the FA find him guilty of racism, which would lead to Swindon being forced to issue a disciplinary for Paolo and would see him resign. It's 50/50 if Paolo is here come the end of the summer and the summer signings are on hold until the FA have concluded their investigations.. It wasn't the greatest of news I was hoping for.. Saying that, he was from the BBC and going on the article the BBC published which seems well wide of the mark, I hope for Swindon Town he has no idea what he's talking about!

I think that sadly there is quite a bit of truth in what you have written. My own perspective is that Paolo has become a target for the media, as he speaks his mind, demands the best, and doesn't suffer fools, he is probably the closest thing we have witnessed since the very great Brian Clough. With Cloughie it was the same as with Paolo, my way or the highway, straight talking, no nonsense, and this is the way to go. As goes Tahuoe, well where is he, had it been a little known manager that he fell out with would all this be happening now, doubtful. He had already fell out with Slade, so he came here, some sort of spat took place and now like a kid he has run off home to France. If his allegations are founded then why not go to the Police and make an allegation of racial abuse to them.Their investigation would have been totally thorough and if proven it would have all gone to court, however the court may decide that instead perjury has been committed then Tahoue could land up behind bars. I stand with the club, Wray and Paolo, full support, either way Wray will be vindicated in what ever he does as regards the outcome, as above all else he is a fair man.

Scottish Dave wrote:
Is racism different from any other case? I always thought that heresay evidence was inadmissible. Dave

the wizard wrote:
Wilesy, forget Williams he has signed up for another club, I think it may have been Yeovil, but not sure.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Steve you won't be tired of it when you we get promoted again!

I'd like to take the opportunity to take a straw poll of my learned friends on here. Macca to play centre half or centre midfield? I'm firmly in the former camp. If people could add their scores and lets see where we get to at the end of the day. Home team defender away team midfielder.

Score 1-0

You know..

Centre half for me dreamo,
after last season why would you change..

Don, clear that bloody coffee up yourself ;O)

Med Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Med Red wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous.

Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion).

As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please!

Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

I think we need to get this issue into some kind of perspective here. Hypothetical talk of Paolo and JW resigning cos of some accusation by a vindictive ex loan player is bloody ridiculous. And what is this terrible accusation.... allegedly Paolo referred to Tehoe by the colour of his skin (black). That's racist is it? No, I don’t think so, I'll tell you what it is.... political correctness gone mad, if you can’t refer to someone by the colour of their skin. Perhaps the word "black" should be banned? Then no one can ever be accused of being racist again.

You ask for perspective and then demonstrate a total lack of it!
.
Of course there is nothing wrong with using the word "black". It all depends on the way it is used. If it's part of a description, fine. Nobody is going to complain about that. But if it's part of a abuse or ridicule that is another matter.
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I disagree with Stroud STFC. I don't think there is anything to suggest that the FA have it in for PDC or us or smaller clubs in general. PDC overstepped the mark a few times last season and the FA responded with a reasonable penalty each time. The only time I can recall feeling we'd had unreasonable treatment of us by the FA was when Jonathan Douglas had his ban increased on appeal after being sent off against Millwall. What else has there been?

"You ask for perspective and then demonstrate a total lack of it"..... really, do I, in what way? Please enlighten me.

Med Red wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous. Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion). As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please! Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

I think we need to get this issue into some kind of perspective here. Hypothetical talk of Paolo and JW resigning cos of some accusation by a vindictive ex loan player is bloody ridiculous. And what is this terrible accusation.... allegedly Paolo referred to Tehoe by the colour of his skin (black). That's racist is it? No, I don’t think so, I'll tell you what it is.... political correctness gone mad, if you can’t refer to someone by the colour of their skin. Perhaps the word "black" should be banned? Then no one can ever be accused of being racist again.

louiscassius wrote:

grove red wrote:

Lazaat wrote:
I would like a statement saying Paolo and JW are staying and the board have agreed funds for us to mount a promotion challenge this coming season! And why didn't we sign Lee Holmes? Paolo stated he would like to sign him then next thing Holmes has agreed a contract with Preston.

me to no signings yet whats happening as alls very quiet.

I've always thought something wasnt right end of last season, when he wouldnt be drawn into next season's campaign......

But, i just thought, oh shut up Lou, he'll be here, dont be daft......

But like you Grim, i'm startng to think he was going to sack it when this started back in March, but JW managed to get him to see the season out.

But, like some other posters have mentioned lately, the longer it goes on without any mention of released funding......the longer it goes on with no confirmation that Paolo's staying.....the more i think somethings happened....and it aint good!!!

I just wish JW would be like he's been all season and be transparent.....tell the fans the way it is now.......Oh hang on......didnt we just get a headline "Season Tickets Soar"????.........Oh and if JW released Paolo would not be here next season, do we think that would have a direct impact on season ticket sales???

HHMmmm, now let me think.....Yep, i think it would, so to that end, could that be the reason that JW hasnt disclosed the vacant Managers slot left by Paolo????....Maybe..


...i hope not, cos that would be a bit of a low trick to play on supporters, that have paid good hard earned money on the premis, the master still works there.....

Sorry, dont mean to be a worrier, but i just hate all this hanging around just waiting, not knowing.........

Here's, to the next days storys.....hoping it'll be a slightly happier one!!!

Louis :-((((

EastleazeRed wrote:
STFC Holding a press conference at 4.00 with P.D.C, Adver ?

jam1 wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:
STFC Holding a press conference at 4.00 with P.D.C, Adver ?

Where did you hear this?

EastleazeRed wrote:

jam1 wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote: STFC Holding a press conference at 4.00 with P.D.C, Adver ?

Where did you hear this?

Its all over facebook , @BBCWiltshire . Come on adver.

madred wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:

jam1 wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote: STFC Holding a press conference at 4.00 with P.D.C, Adver ?

Where did you hear this?

Its all over facebook , @BBCWiltshire . Come on adver.

have just read the same thing on thetownend.com, not sure to be worried about racism/paulo leaving/drink driving or excited about new signings...biting nails 'til 4......

Oi Den! wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Med Red wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote: Whilst I'll obviously support the manager JW and the board, lets not mistake this as being a very serious issue. The club have investigated and believe there is no case to answer. That will do for me for now but the FA must be allowed to do their investigation. If this upholds the club's position then the player must face sanctions as this would be scandalous. Hypothetically if this was not the case then the manager has to go as will JW. Also hypothetically if something racist had been said I have no problem with a player passing on this comment to T. We should not and cannot ever stand for any kind of prejudice based on the colour of skin (sex, or sexual persuasion). As none of us on here know what was actually said we need to concentrate on stopping the speculation of old has been players. Young hungry players the Emperor can improve please! Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.

I think we need to get this issue into some kind of perspective here. Hypothetical talk of Paolo and JW resigning cos of some accusation by a vindictive ex loan player is bloody ridiculous. And what is this terrible accusation.... allegedly Paolo referred to Tehoe by the colour of his skin (black). That's racist is it? No, I don’t think so, I'll tell you what it is.... political correctness gone mad, if you can’t refer to someone by the colour of their skin. Perhaps the word "black" should be banned? Then no one can ever be accused of being racist again.

You ask for perspective and then demonstrate a total lack of it! . Of course there is nothing wrong with using the word "black". It all depends on the way it is used. If it's part of a description, fine. Nobody is going to complain about that. But if it's part of a abuse or ridicule that is another matter. . I disagree with Stroud STFC. I don't think there is anything to suggest that the FA have it in for PDC or us or smaller clubs in general. PDC overstepped the mark a few times last season and the FA responded with a reasonable penalty each time. The only time I can recall feeling we'd had unreasonable treatment of us by the FA was when Jonathan Douglas had his ban increased on appeal after being sent off against Millwall. What else has there been?

"You ask for perspective and then demonstrate a total lack of it"..... really, do I, in what way? Please enlighten me.

Because until we know all the facts we can't possibly know that Tehoue is being vindictive. He may very well be but we don't know that yet. And because you are making the broad assumption that the allegation is simply over the use of the word "black" in an inoffensive context. The point you've picked up on is that PDC is said to have referred to Tehoue by the colour of his skin, rather than by his name. I am not commenting on whether PDC did or did not do that but I do think it would be a very offensive thing for anyone to do. . But apologies anyway. I didn't mean to pick a fight with you over this. It just riles me a bit when I see people returning their innocent and guilty verdicts on two people when they don't know the facts. At one end of the possibilities, Tehoue is a liar. At the other end, PDC is a racist. In between there are several shades of grey (if you'll forgive the colour pun). Why not let justice take its course?

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Woo hoo just heard on NBC Wiltshire it's going to be a contract extension. Come on!!

Back to back to back promotions. Here we come. Get in!!

EastleazeRed wrote:
So mr di canio never said anything to the players face, but was overheard by a third party who then told player at a later date. Ahem ! reminds me of a game we played at school called chinese whispers , the word at the start of the line was never the same at the end. At the best of times i find it hard to understand Mr di canio's broken english and is hard to make out , so i suppos LAZY FAT CNUT could sound racist if not heard properly being shouted by an angry italian ?

andy5364 wrote:

EastleazeRed wrote:
So mr di canio never said anything to the players face, but was overheard by a third party who then told player at a later date. Ahem ! reminds me of a game we played at school called chinese whispers , the word at the start of the line was never the same at the end. At the best of times i find it hard to understand Mr di canio's broken english and is hard to make out , so i suppos LAZY FAT CNUT could sound racist if not heard properly being shouted by an angry italian ?

Very good Eastleaze red .

CraigClark wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Woo hoo just heard on NBC Wiltshire it's going to be a contract extension. Come on!!

Back to back to back promotions. Here we come. Get in!!

Hope your right DOACS!

We are PANTS wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Steve you won't be tired of it when you we get promoted again!

I'd like to take the opportunity to take a straw poll of my learned friends on here. Macca to play centre half or centre midfield? I'm firmly in the former camp. If people could add their scores and lets see where we get to at the end of the day. Home team defender away team midfielder.

Score 1-0

You know..

Centre half for me dreamo,
after last season why would you change..

Don, clear that bloody coffee up yourself ;O)

You have a lot to say today Brentford?? Tell me? Do you get to many games yourself?? I do.. I wanted to let you know you were bang out of order the other day.. You know NOTHING about me so please refrain from being abusive towards me. This is a forum and we ALL have our opinions.. I may disagree with some comment's but i do not go f'in and b'in at others without being verbally attacked first..

35yrRED wrote:
Are we all feeling happier now??? ;-)))))

35yrRED wrote:
Are we all feeling happier now??? ;-)))))

Steve. Brentford wrote:

35yrRED wrote:
Are we all feeling happier now??? ;-)))))

My lips have turned upwards (and onwards) does that count?

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Now stop all this worrying please and let me enjoy my fishing.

Mondeaux wrote:
Spreading the word?

I live in deepest, darkest, rural France, but got a real surprise yesterday.
I was in a local supermarket, proudly wearing my new STFC polo shirt. A geezer walking towards me, suddenly started rhythmically clapping and chanting "Paolo di Canio".

Which just goes to show how very peripatetic us town fans are.