Swindon Town set to trim their squad (From Swindon Advertiser)
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Swindon Town set to trim their squad
6:00am Monday 25th June 2012 in STFC News By Sam Morshead
AFTER the flurry of arrivals at the County Ground last week, Swindon Town are expected to start shedding players over the course of the next seven days with two first-team regulars from last term set to leave the club before the team jets off to Italy on Sunday.
Paolo Di Canio kick-started his summer shopping spree a week ago with the acquisitions of Andy Williams, Gary Roberts and James Collins, while Tommy Miller, Alan Navarro and Jay McEveley were officially unveiled as Robins on Thursday as Town gear up for their pre-season trip to Lake Garda and the impending assault on League One.
With Swindon’s ranks swelling Di Canio needs to trim his squad, and the Advertiser understands two men who played significant roles in Town’s League Two-winning side last season will be shown the exit door in the near future.
The unnamed pair, who accumulated more than 60 league appearances between them in 2011/12, are believed to have attracted interest from clubs in League One and League Two - and deals to secure their departures from SN1 may be just around the corner.
Meanwhile, Town’s 13-year-old goalkeeper Jared Thompson has completed his move to Chelsea.
The transfer, which will net Swindon an undisclosed compensation fee and was reported first by the Advertiser on June 14, was signed and sealed on Saturday.
Finally, new signing Roberts has urged Town to make sure they retain all their prized assets ahead of the new term to help Di Canio in his attempts to secure back to back promotions.
Roberts arrived in Wiltshire following his release from Huddersfield this summer with the ambition to challenge at the top of League One in 2012/13.
To do that, he stressed, there needs to be minimal outgoings over the next two months before competitive football returns in August.
“If he (Di Canio) wants to build he’s got to keep his best players, which he’s said, so I’m looking forward to playing with these type of players,” he said.
“I know they’ve got some great players already at the club so it’s exciting times for the club and the fans.
“I remember playing against Matt Ritchie last year in the FA Cup and he’s a good player and with the goals he scored last year, to keep him here is a big thing.”
Comments(89)
Is that you Lovesey
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6:35am Mon 25 Jun 12
stigger
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6:43am Mon 25 Jun 12
robstfc
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7:08am Mon 25 Jun 12
umpcah
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7:25am Mon 25 Jun 12
Is that you Lovesey wrote:That`s a good guess from Roger but Paolo is not one to predict easily. Bodin is also likely to move on i.m.o. Wonder who will come IN this week ?
spot on mate
U REDS
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7:36am Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard
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7:37am Mon 25 Jun 12
I can see another mid fielder going in addition to Smith, if it is him.
U REDS
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7:39am Mon 25 Jun 12
Wilesy
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7:48am Mon 25 Jun 12
SAPFAN if you have internet again and reading this when is the presentation night was it sometime in August?
mandrossian
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7:49am Mon 25 Jun 12
Risser 32
Connell 32
Devita 38
Smith 38
Anyone else would be a shock
rcarzz99
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7:50am Mon 25 Jun 12
jayden
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7:51am Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard
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7:59am Mon 25 Jun 12
jayden wrote:SNAP
I have had a big clear out many times after eating in the ground lol
umpcah
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8:02am Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard wrote:WIZ : cb and gk ? Yes but who ? With the promotion chasers leaving for Italy on Sunday I would expect Paolo to complete his squad no later than Thursday. I`ll bet he knows just who he wants too !
umpcah, a cb and gk. Good guess from Roger, I don't think he is far off. Lots of stories concerning Connell going to Crawley for a long time, even before Slug left for Rotherham.
I can see another mid fielder going in addition to Smith, if it is him.
old town robin
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8:04am Mon 25 Jun 12
rcarzz99 wrote:The article said there had been interest shown by div 1 and div 2 clubs, that would suggest from the players that still have 1 year on their contracts and we would expect a fee. I would have to go with the opinions of other who suggest Connell and Smith, who are both decent players at this level and we paid a rumoured £180k for the two of them. It won't be Risser because as much as I wish it was, nobody would be daft enough to want him. besides which Paolo likes him because he trains hard.
It's obviously Jon smith and risser going not Connell and ferry as ferry has 40 odd appearances last season and Connell had about 30
Med Red
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8:10am Mon 25 Jun 12
stokes_stfc
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8:22am Mon 25 Jun 12
mandrossian wrote:my first thought was cibo but he hasn't played enough games to make up 60... think it will be connel and smith
Based on a combined 60 league apps it must be 2 from the following 4 candidates:
Risser 32
Connell 32
Devita 38
Smith 38
Anyone else would be a shock
London Red
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8:24am Mon 25 Jun 12
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Should easily get Smith's £30k back if not a small profit
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Expect Bodin to reject a deal and head to Crewe - Torquay sold too many to still be attractive surely!
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Magera to stay at Banik where he has done well in the hole - netting 3 in 13 from there
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After those I personally think it will only be Lanzano and Kerrouche looked to be moved on
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RDV has had a lot of praise of PdC and is versatile - as has and is Risser
umpcah
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8:25am Mon 25 Jun 12
stokes_stfc wrote:Stokes : Two useful LEAGUE 2 players there ! Def. surplus to Paolo`s immediate requirements i.m.o.
mandrossian wrote:my first thought was cibo but he hasn't played enough games to make up 60... think it will be connel and smith
Based on a combined 60 league apps it must be 2 from the following 4 candidates:
Risser 32
Connell 32
Devita 38
Smith 38
Anyone else would be a shock
louiscassius
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8:40am Mon 25 Jun 12
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
umpcah
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8:44am Mon 25 Jun 12
louiscassius wrote:I know you are asking Wizz but does Paolo want to bring injury prone players to the CG ? I doubt it !
Wizz,
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
the wizard
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8:51am Mon 25 Jun 12
umpcah, I dunno who he is looking at, but I know the song, "he's Paolo di Canio, he gets who he wants", and after last season he will.
Oi Den!
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8:54am Mon 25 Jun 12
stfc_tom
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8:57am Mon 25 Jun 12
louiscassius
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9:12am Mon 25 Jun 12
umpcah wrote:Umpcah,
louiscassius wrote:I know you are asking Wizz but does Paolo want to bring injury prone players to the CG ? I doubt it !
Wizz,
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
Well, reading through his stats and history, i must admit, there doesnt seem to much reference to lots of injuries which i mentioned in my original column.
I thought he'd been injured alot more, but hey, you know what thought did.......
Hey, never mind.......
Louis :-))))))
Davidsyrett
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9:19am Mon 25 Jun 12
louiscassius
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9:23am Mon 25 Jun 12
Davidsyrett wrote:I deffo think Ferry to be honest, he's the eyebrow raiser, IMHO.....
Bodin's one that I'm sure is on his way but he only made 11 appearances for us last season, So I'll go for Ferry as the other one on his way out as he made 38 appearances.
Louis :-))))
Med Red
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9:23am Mon 25 Jun 12
stfc_tom wrote:"the Advertiser understands two men who played significant roles in Town’s League Two-winning side last season will be shown the exit door in the near future"..... so can't be Cox he's hardly played for us. Please let it be Risser!!!
Bodin will defo go so if Connell goes then that's Williams, Benson and Collins as our only strikers. Top scorer last season and although was in and out the team PDC did also say he was an important player. Mayy be surprised and may not be connell. Could be RDV, Smith, Cox.
LydiardRED67
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9:31am Mon 25 Jun 12
Connel and Smith for me, Risser is adaptable as utility player, being defene or midfield.
LydiardRED67
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9:34am Mon 25 Jun 12
hertz
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9:39am Mon 25 Jun 12
ciclosporindorset
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9:46am Mon 25 Jun 12
hertz wrote:I was in Natwest in Yeovil on Saturday and bumped into Tara Palmer Tomkinson. She was visiting Dorset to secure a property or so she told all 134 people there at the time. Maybe Bostock had similar motives.
Filled up the Mrs car in Old Town yesterday and the fella in the petrol station said he had just been talking to Bostock , he called in , so why would he be in these parts on a Sunday ?
We are PANTS
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10:11am Mon 25 Jun 12
35yrRED
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10:14am Mon 25 Jun 12
umpcah wrote:His injury record is not as bad as people make out...He would be a great addition to the squad for this level...It would be a great deal if the money was sensible because HK could do a job at Championship level easily IMO
louiscassius wrote:I know you are asking Wizz but does Paolo want to bring injury prone players to the CG ? I doubt it !
Wizz,
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
BillyLucas4me
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10:19am Mon 25 Jun 12
Personalities come into the equation and PdC, for all his plusses, is not perfect in this respect.
Stfcsteve
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10:30am Mon 25 Jun 12
Stfcsteve
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10:32am Mon 25 Jun 12
louiscassius
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10:41am Mon 25 Jun 12
35yrRED wrote:My thoughts exactly.....as long as the money's right....he could be easily 20+ for us at this level.....
umpcah wrote:His injury record is not as bad as people make out...He would be a great addition to the squad for this level...It would be a great deal if the money was sensible because HK could do a job at Championship level easily IMO
louiscassius wrote:I know you are asking Wizz but does Paolo want to bring injury prone players to the CG ? I doubt it !
Wizz,
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
Louis :-)))
mallorca
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10:49am Mon 25 Jun 12
as for Bostock would be nice.
However at the back of my mind I get a feeling that Ferry may be leaving possibly to Sheffield united.
Incoming possibly 2 or 3
However we will get a surprise when players who are leaving is revealed
mallorca
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10:49am Mon 25 Jun 12
as for Bostock would be nice.
However at the back of my mind I get a feeling that Ferry may be leaving possibly to Sheffield united.
Incoming possibly 2 or 3
However we will get a surprise when players who are leaving is revealed
mallorca
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10:49am Mon 25 Jun 12
as for Bostock would be nice.
However at the back of my mind I get a feeling that Ferry may be leaving possibly to Sheffield united.
Incoming possibly 2 or 3
However we will get a surprise when players who are leaving is revealed
EastleazeRed
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10:50am Mon 25 Jun 12
louiscassius wrote:It was reported in one of the red tops this morning that harry kewell is returning to england because his mother in law is really ill and wants to be close to his family , so i expect he will end up somewhere in yorkshire.
35yrRED wrote:My thoughts exactly.....as long as the money's right....he could be easily 20+ for us at this level.....
umpcah wrote:His injury record is not as bad as people make out...He would be a great addition to the squad for this level...It would be a great deal if the money was sensible because HK could do a job at Championship level easily IMO
louiscassius wrote:I know you are asking Wizz but does Paolo want to bring injury prone players to the CG ? I doubt it !
Wizz,
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
Louis :-)))
themoonraker
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11:52am Mon 25 Jun 12
tally38
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12:02pm Mon 25 Jun 12
hotels etc
tread50
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12:03pm Mon 25 Jun 12
35yrRED
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12:25pm Mon 25 Jun 12
EastleazeRed wrote:I think what HK was getting at is that because his Mother-In-Law is so ill it was vital he gets back to this Country as opposed to staying in Australia. Although you may be right I'm not too sure we should be ruled out simply because travelling from Swindon to Yorkshire is nothing compared to the travelling his family have had to do to see her. There is probably nothing in this...but as we have been linked with him I have to say...I'm hoping something may transpire.
louiscassius wrote:It was reported in one of the red tops this morning that harry kewell is returning to england because his mother in law is really ill and wants to be close to his family , so i expect he will end up somewhere in yorkshire.
35yrRED wrote:My thoughts exactly.....as long as the money's right....he could be easily 20+ for us at this level.....
umpcah wrote:His injury record is not as bad as people make out...He would be a great addition to the squad for this level...It would be a great deal if the money was sensible because HK could do a job at Championship level easily IMO
louiscassius wrote:I know you are asking Wizz but does Paolo want to bring injury prone players to the CG ? I doubt it !
Wizz,
Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract??
I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........
My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences.......
Any thoughts Wizz???
Louis :-)))))))))))))))
Louis :-)))
aussieg
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12:43pm Mon 25 Jun 12
stfclondon
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12:56pm Mon 25 Jun 12
louiscassius wrote:No prizes for guessing where you "heard" this.
Wizz, Have you heard that Harry Kewell is the big name striker, that has been offered a 1 yrs contract?? I just thought with your connections you might know if there's any truth behind this rumour mate........ My dads mate, reckons we're in for a treat, he said that in Apr, that there'll be one big name signing....God, could it be true......I know his fitness and injuries are something to be scared off, but jesus, that boy doesn't half know where the goal is!!!! and at this level he could destroy defences....... Any thoughts Wizz??? Louis :-)))))))))))))))
clunge_meister
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1:21pm Mon 25 Jun 12
aussieg wrote:The mail online says Blackburn aswell. Can anyone remember a rumour on the rumours site that has been even midly accurate?
Report from hear in Melbourne is that HK is set to have talks with Blackburn--very soon
the wizard
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1:22pm Mon 25 Jun 12
He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOL
akershaker
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2:05pm Mon 25 Jun 12
London Red
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2:09pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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There is no way he is on his way out
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Also only 9 of our current 29 played less than 15 times in the league with 4 of those expected to be on their way out!
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2 were youths, 1 Samsung winner and 1 due to loan period length (McEveley)
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Kerrouche 13
Bodin 11
McEveley 8 (out of 10)
Cox 7
Lanzano 6
Thompson 5
Storey 4
C. Smith 1
Bedwell 0
TheDukeOfBanbury
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2:09pm Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard wrote:I can direct him to some more interesting sites if he needs any help ....lol.
London, poor old Louis, you just have to love him, but that dreaded rumour site and Louis are almost joined at the hip. He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOL
Not a rumour in sight. Eyes don't lie Wiz.
louiscassius
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2:22pm Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard wrote:Wizz,
London, poor old Louis, you just have to love him, but that dreaded rumour site and Louis are almost joined at the hip.
He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOL
I love ya too buddy....I'm sorry i just cant help it!!!
You never know whats rubbish and whats good, its such a nightmare but so good too.
There's loads of things that do come true on there......when you look back...but because its placed in amongst all the rubbish you have to try and sieve through it and see!!!
Sorry guys and gals....just trying to be positive again :-))
Louis :-))))
louiscassius
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2:23pm Mon 25 Jun 12
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:Yes please
the wizard wrote:I can direct him to some more interesting sites if he needs any help ....lol.
London, poor old Louis, you just have to love him, but that dreaded rumour site and Louis are almost joined at the hip. He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOL
Not a rumour in sight. Eyes don't lie Wiz.
Louis :-)
Steve. Brentford
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2:42pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Breaking news:
Same old,same old.
Blow up that poxy site,its not worth a to$$ and some unfortunates never learn.
Steve. Brentford
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2:47pm Mon 25 Jun 12
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:Anyone seen my EX-HAMSTER ? (i seem to of lost it)
the wizard wrote:I can direct him to some more interesting sites if he needs any help ....lol.
London, poor old Louis, you just have to love him, but that dreaded rumour site and Louis are almost joined at the hip. He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOL
Not a rumour in sight. Eyes don't lie Wiz.
the wizard
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2:47pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Barton stripped of Captaincy, blimey and blind man could have seen that coming.
Pirlo not marked out of the game and we were chasing shadows.
If your name is Cole you cannot and must not take penalties.
Rooney was more unfit than most Town players at the end of Wilson's reign. Why was he allowed to play, a very poor performance by his standards.
In Roy Hodgeson I think we have hope. He made us respectable again, and has shown he is not afraid to pick the players he wants, and gave caps to some exiting young players. I hope he is not hung out to dry in the press like some of his predecessors, he deserves time. In Roy I trust, he has shown he can do the job.
peanutstfc
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3:44pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Steve. Brentford
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3:52pm Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard wrote:Wiz, with your connections in football you should be telling us why not asking ;O)
And then, elsewhere, totally off subject,
Barton stripped of Captaincy, blimey and blind man could have seen that coming.
Pirlo not marked out of the game and we were chasing shadows.
If your name is Cole you cannot and must not take penalties.
Rooney was more unfit than most Town players at the end of Wilson's reign. Why was he allowed to play, a very poor performance by his standards.
In Roy Hodgeson I think we have hope. He made us respectable again, and has shown he is not afraid to pick the players he wants, and gave caps to some exiting young players. I hope he is not hung out to dry in the press like some of his predecessors, he deserves time. In Roy I trust, he has shown he can do the job.
Malkym
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4:39pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Not so Smart Roger wrote:Little & Large, Morecambe & Wise, Cannon & Ball, Hale & Pace....ZZZZZ!!
Connell and Jonathan Smith?
Malkym
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4:44pm Mon 25 Jun 12
ciclosporindorset wrote:Now I'd rather bump into TPT any time than Bostick!
hertz wrote: Filled up the Mrs car in Old Town yesterday and the fella in the petrol station said he had just been talking to Bostock , he called in , so why would he be in these parts on a Sunday ?I was in Natwest in Yeovil on Saturday and bumped into Tara Palmer Tomkinson. She was visiting Dorset to secure a property or so she told all 134 people there at the time. Maybe Bostock had similar motives.
Kingseleven
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4:56pm Mon 25 Jun 12
peanutstfc wrote:Really !!!!! Be realistic, Flint maybe but Ritchie, No way. Some of our incomings were probably sold on the idea of playing alongside Ritchie and the service/goals he provides. Crucial to our season and going nowhere IMHO. With Ritchie ( and the others ) we could see back to back promotions. If Ritchie performs as well in league 1 then he may be Premiership Bound next season ? For me it will be Smith and Possibly Risser. I actually like both of them but no time for sentiment.
Matt ritchie and aden flint
Malkym
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4:59pm Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard wrote:England got what they deserved - squat diddly! They couldn't pass the ball and were over-run in midfield relying solely on Parker and Gerrard. We are a million miles from winning a major tournament at the moment and were lucky we still had a chance for it to go to pens.
And then, elsewhere, totally off subject, Barton stripped of Captaincy, blimey and blind man could have seen that coming. Pirlo not marked out of the game and we were chasing shadows. If your name is Cole you cannot and must not take penalties. Rooney was more unfit than most Town players at the end of Wilson's reign. Why was he allowed to play, a very poor performance by his standards. In Roy Hodgeson I think we have hope. He made us respectable again, and has shown he is not afraid to pick the players he wants, and gave caps to some exiting young players. I hope he is not hung out to dry in the press like some of his predecessors, he deserves time. In Roy I trust, he has shown he can do the job.
Love him or hate him JT was my MOM by a mile and Stevie G, Johnson,Welbeck and Parker. Hodgson was on a hiding to nothing with injuries, was forced to play defensively and Lady Luck has been with us from the start of the tournament - it was unfair that we should expect to stay on side for the shoot out!
Rooney was on the pitch because he has the ability to produce something from nothing and his reputation was designed to scare the opposition. However spectacular overhead goals only come off every now and then as he ably demonstrated last night - he didn't play well but his work rate couldn't be faulted IMO.
Malkym
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5:03pm Mon 25 Jun 12
ciclosporindorset
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5:10pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Malkym wrote:Although I did - believe me TPT nothing to writehome about really. Now if bostock were looking for digs in Swindon that would def. excite though doubt he would want "digs"
ciclosporindorset wrote:Now I'd rather bump into TPT any time than Bostick!
hertz wrote: Filled up the Mrs car in Old Town yesterday and the fella in the petrol station said he had just been talking to Bostock , he called in , so why would he be in these parts on a Sunday ?I was in Natwest in Yeovil on Saturday and bumped into Tara Palmer Tomkinson. She was visiting Dorset to secure a property or so she told all 134 people there at the time. Maybe Bostock had similar motives.
the wizard
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5:14pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Malkym wrote:Can't fault that,very pleased for Welbeck, for a young player I think he had a great tournament, and hopefully better to come in time.
Para should have read :- Love him or hate him JT was my MOM by a mile and Stevie G, Johnson,Welbeck and Parker(also did well). Hodgson was on a hiding to nothing with injuries, was forced to play defensively and Lady Luck has been with us from the start of the tournament - it was unfair that we should expect (her) to stay on side for the shoot out
A lot of the other guys are probably thinking this was their last chance of something to write home about, the years are catching up with a few now.
I hope Hodgeson gets the backing to start with almost a completely fresh team now, and the nation gets behind them, rather than on their backs.
Steve. Brentford
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5:17pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Malkym wrote:Fair post Jock,
the wizard wrote:England got what they deserved - squat diddly! They couldn't pass the ball and were over-run in midfield relying solely on Parker and Gerrard. We are a million miles from winning a major tournament at the moment and were lucky we still had a chance for it to go to pens.
And then, elsewhere, totally off subject, Barton stripped of Captaincy, blimey and blind man could have seen that coming. Pirlo not marked out of the game and we were chasing shadows. If your name is Cole you cannot and must not take penalties. Rooney was more unfit than most Town players at the end of Wilson's reign. Why was he allowed to play, a very poor performance by his standards. In Roy Hodgeson I think we have hope. He made us respectable again, and has shown he is not afraid to pick the players he wants, and gave caps to some exiting young players. I hope he is not hung out to dry in the press like some of his predecessors, he deserves time. In Roy I trust, he has shown he can do the job.
Love him or hate him JT was my MOM by a mile and Stevie G, Johnson,Welbeck and Parker. Hodgson was on a hiding to nothing with injuries, was forced to play defensively and Lady Luck has been with us from the start of the tournament - it was unfair that we should expect to stay on side for the shoot out!
Rooney was on the pitch because he has the ability to produce something from nothing and his reputation was designed to scare the opposition. However spectacular overhead goals only come off every now and then as he ably demonstrated last night - he didn't play well but his work rate couldn't be faulted IMO.
you said it all in your first 5 words.
Old-Stager, Hilperton
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5:34pm Mon 25 Jun 12
He managed to get the whole team ( including Rooney ) to actually sing the National Anthem.
Is that you Lovesey
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5:55pm Mon 25 Jun 12
the wizard wrote:Sorry Wiz, on one hand yep its good to have a manager who is English.... On the other, if Hodgson couldnt see that two banks of four 8 yards apart sitting in our own half, allowing Pirlo to dictate the game wasnt working, then omg he must have been the only englishman on the planet who couldnt see it needed changing...
And then, elsewhere, totally off subject, Barton stripped of Captaincy, blimey and blind man could have seen that coming. Pirlo not marked out of the game and we were chasing shadows. If your name is Cole you cannot and must not take penalties. Rooney was more unfit than most Town players at the end of Wilson's reign. Why was he allowed to play, a very poor performance by his standards. In Roy Hodgeson I think we have hope. He made us respectable again, and has shown he is not afraid to pick the players he wants, and gave caps to some exiting young players. I hope he is not hung out to dry in the press like some of his predecessors, he deserves time. In Roy I trust, he has shown he can do the job.
London Red
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5:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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Simply swapping the manager and persisting with the same players may have a short term effect - but not long term
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We saw that by England being harder to beat than usual - but will we get beyond the quarters like that - No!
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I'm disappointed that Gerrard is to continue as Captain in 2014 - yes he was our best player - but he will be 34 then and is already past his best
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We need to radically change the squad and go with the new generation - it worked for the Spanish and it is going to see the Germans dominate for years to come as they just get better and better!
forzaswindon12
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7:01pm Mon 25 Jun 12
stfc_tom wrote:if it is connell then that leaves us short on strikers doesnt it.
Bodin will defo go so if Connell goes then that's Williams, Benson and Collins as our only strikers. Top scorer last season and although was in and out the team PDC did also say he was an important player. Mayy be surprised and may not be connell. Could be RDV, Smith, Cox.
(bodin kerrouch and magera wont be here). cant see kewell coming here, would like us to bid proper money for someone like stuart beavon whos a proven 25 a season in league 1.
the wizard
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7:11pm Mon 25 Jun 12
London Red wrote:Well I'm pleased that I have managed to get some opinions going at National level, on a quiet pre season Monday.
England will never do anything until they have a proper change
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Simply swapping the manager and persisting with the same players may have a short term effect - but not long term
.
We saw that by England being harder to beat than usual - but will we get beyond the quarters like that - No!
.
I'm disappointed that Gerrard is to continue as Captain in 2014 - yes he was our best player - but he will be 34 then and is already past his best
.
We need to radically change the squad and go with the new generation - it worked for the Spanish and it is going to see the Germans dominate for years to come as they just get better and better!
So come on LR give us an insight to your squad and team and who would you pick as manager if you had to replace Roy. Its bound to be a bit controversial, but at least it will pick the tempo up a bit and get us all thinking.
I'll admit to not quite knowing where and who to pick from a clean sheet as I would probably stick a few "old guard" in there for experience and stability.
forzaswindon12
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7:11pm Mon 25 Jun 12
London Red
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7:47pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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I would want a young squad which can interchange with the U21 as required to ensure all play together regularly and with the same system
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I would adopt the 4231 formation as we clearly saw we need 3 in the middle to match the top sides
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Germany have shown how this still can keep you solid but also fluent in attack
.
Slight tweaks will also aid which style you want by changing he 2 to be defensive like Holland or ball players like Spain
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My squad would include:
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GK
J Hart
J Ruddy
F Forster
J Lewis
A Smithies
W Fodderingham
B Amos
J Butland
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Def
K Walker
G Johnson
M Richards
M Kelly
N Clyne
K Naughton
A Cole
R Bertrand
K Gibbs
D Rose
G Cahill
J Lescott
P Jagialka
P Jones
C Smalling
S Caulker
C Dawson
.
Mid
J Wilshire
T Cleverly
J Rodwell
J Henderson
J McEachran
A Lennon
T Walcott
A Oxlade-Chamberlain
A Young
A Johnson
W Zaha
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Fwd
W Rooney
D Welbeck
A Carroll
C Wickham
J Rodiguez
M Sordwell
H Lansbury
London Red
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7:54pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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Benson Williams and Collins would be the main 3 with RDV and Storey in support
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We also have lots of goals from midfield with the likes of Ritchie popping up with double figures
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We scored the most goals at home in L2 without having a "proper" striker and can do so again in L1 with the current set up - as we now have 3
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Williams is the one PdC wanted to partner Benson and is more than happy he will score the goals for the champions
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Also Collins was wanted by a lot of teams and was Coventry's number 1 target so he is a real coup
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Fodders
Caddis Flint Macca McEveley
Ritchie Ferry Navarro Roberts
Benson Williams
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Bedwell
Devera
Thompson
Risser
Miller
Rooney
Collins
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That is an impressive line up and a superb bench to change things
TheDukeOfBanbury
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8:14pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Steve. Brentford wrote:I may be an Oxfordshire lad but Hamsters are kids pets.
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:Anyone seen my EX-HAMSTER ? (i seem to of lost it)the wizard wrote: London, poor old Louis, you just have to love him, but that dreaded rumour site and Louis are almost joined at the hip. He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOLI can direct him to some more interesting sites if he needs any help ....lol. Not a rumour in sight. Eyes don't lie Wiz.
I guess that's why I was always told to stay clear of Pinehurst (lol) ;)
PS - 3 decent Chub all over 5 & 1/2 lb Friday but no Barbel.
Can you send some down from the lower Thames bypassing those Otters and take your Comorants with you back to the Tidal Thames.
Steve. Brentford
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8:38pm Mon 25 Jun 12
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:Haha, very good.
Steve. Brentford wrote:I may be an Oxfordshire lad but Hamsters are kids pets.
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:Anyone seen my EX-HAMSTER ? (i seem to of lost it)the wizard wrote: London, poor old Louis, you just have to love him, but that dreaded rumour site and Louis are almost joined at the hip. He is a lovely guy and I knew exactly what was afoot when he posted. LOLI can direct him to some more interesting sites if he needs any help ....lol. Not a rumour in sight. Eyes don't lie Wiz.
I guess that's why I was always told to stay clear of Pinehurst (lol) ;)
PS - 3 decent Chub all over 5 & 1/2 lb Friday but no Barbel.
Can you send some down from the lower Thames bypassing those Otters and take your Comorants with you back to the Tidal Thames.
Nice luvly chubblys mate Bream are driving me mad up to now, some go over 10lb though.Nets are stinking.
the wizard
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9:18pm Mon 25 Jun 12
I have seen your England selection, and I have to say as with all sides it would take a while to arrive at a settled starting eleven, but its a good place to start. I don't see Roy as revolutionary, but I think he may well grasp the moment now and start to draft in more youngsters. The old guard has had its day, several managers, and come home with nothing much. This time they brought back some respectability, but for years its been excuses, in bigger and bigger helpings.
I hope now that Roy gets the chance to nurture a younger replacement, maybe Neville, maybe somebody else. your stance on youngsters I feel is correct, and now is the time, but the Golden question is, will the FA stand behind Roy and a revolution ? I hope they do.
old town robin
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9:30pm Mon 25 Jun 12
mallorca wrote:Mallorca, you would have to be koking if you think Ferry would play for Wilson after the way he was forgotton when Prutton arrived. i bet Jeamn Francois has some regrets, didn't see that he was involved too much after Xmas.
Yes Connel/Bodin/Cox plus a few more will leave.
as for Bostock would be nice.
However at the back of my mind I get a feeling that Ferry may be leaving possibly to Sheffield united.
Incoming possibly 2 or 3
However we will get a surprise when players who are leaving is revealed
old town robin
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9:33pm Mon 25 Jun 12
aussieg wrote:Think that is more realistic, he is coming back here because the mother of his wife is ill and as she is a Northerner, it would make sense it is more likely that he will play for a clubin the lancs or Cheshire area, especially if they are Championship team.
Report from hear in Melbourne is that HK is set to have talks with Blackburn--very soon
London Red
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9:48pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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We could get a settled side with the core coming from one side - bit like the Spanish
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For example Amos, Smalling, Jones, Cleverly, Young, Rooney and Welbeck are all Man U and they have also been heavily linked with Rodwell
London Red
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9:51pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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Hart
Walker Cahill Lescott Cole
Wilshire Rodwell
Walcott Rooney Young
Welbeck
the wizard
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9:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
I do have a bit of a love affair with Spain, and I also like the way they play, but I also like the Portuguese, but when you start to look at the likes of Barca and Man U the talent depth is just amazing. It is a very tough nut to crack competing at International level successfully, but what are your thoughts on limiting the numbers of imports in each side, so as to promote the national team level, that seems to be a pretty loaded topic, one which nobody has really addressed successfully. I don't think there is a definitive answer to that but we have to do something to raise our level, don't you agree.
old town robin
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10:04pm Mon 25 Jun 12
LydiardRED67 wrote:even "defence"
Should have been defense obviously. Stupid fingers.
Wilesy
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11:01pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Hart
Walker Cahill Lescott Cole
Phil Jones
Walcott Rooney Wilshere The Ox
Carroll
Oi Den!
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11:05pm Mon 25 Jun 12
London Red wrote:Chaps, I'm convinced that you could play around with permutaions for ever and still not come up with a decent team. We just don't produce the players to field a top class international side. I'm not sure why there was so much wailing and gnashing of teeth at last night's elimination. Hodgson got the best he could out of those players, and that is still light years behind all the semi-finalists. We've had the occasional good result but we haven't had a team worthy of the world stage since 1970.
I've had this debate with others before so do have a list of names who should make up the squad
.
I would want a young squad which can interchange with the U21 as required to ensure all play together regularly and with the same system
.
I would adopt the 4231 formation as we clearly saw we need 3 in the middle to match the top sides
.
Germany have shown how this still can keep you solid but also fluent in attack
.
Slight tweaks will also aid which style you want by changing he 2 to be defensive like Holland or ball players like Spain
.
My squad would include:
.
GK
J Hart
J Ruddy
F Forster
J Lewis
A Smithies
W Fodderingham
B Amos
J Butland
.
Def
K Walker
G Johnson
M Richards
M Kelly
N Clyne
K Naughton
A Cole
R Bertrand
K Gibbs
D Rose
G Cahill
J Lescott
P Jagialka
P Jones
C Smalling
S Caulker
C Dawson
.
Mid
J Wilshire
T Cleverly
J Rodwell
J Henderson
J McEachran
A Lennon
T Walcott
A Oxlade-Chamberlain
A Young
A Johnson
W Zaha
.
Fwd
W Rooney
D Welbeck
A Carroll
C Wickham
J Rodiguez
M Sordwell
H Lansbury
BillyLucas4me
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12:50am Tue 26 Jun 12
The other team consistently failed to keep and pass the ball, and when they lost it they backed off and watched the opposition play football. Hart was OK bearing in mind that the opposing cf had a particularly off day with his opportunities.
One penalty was a joke. An old fashioned referee would and should have given at least ten.
Davidsyrett
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9:00am Tue 26 Jun 12
old town robin wrote:JLF was injured, hopes to return for next season
mallorca wrote:Mallorca, you would have to be koking if you think Ferry would play for Wilson after the way he was forgotton when Prutton arrived. i bet Jeamn Francois has some regrets, didn't see that he was involved too much after Xmas.
Yes Connel/Bodin/Cox plus a few more will leave.
as for Bostock would be nice.
However at the back of my mind I get a feeling that Ferry may be leaving possibly to Sheffield united.
Incoming possibly 2 or 3
However we will get a surprise when players who are leaving is revealed

Not so Smart Roger says...
6:03am Mon 25 Jun 12