Town made Troy the best offer they could

Troy Archibald-Henville

Troy Archibald-Henville

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SWINDON Town could not take the risk of offering Troy Archibald-Henville anything more than a pay as you play contract for next season, according to chairman Lee Power.

Archibald-Henville put pen to paper on a two-year deal with Carlisle United yesterday after snubbing Swindon’s offer, ending a two-year association with the Wiltshire club.

The former Tottenham centre-back has been plagued by knee injuries during his time with the Robins and, though he was excellent upon his return to the first team towards the end of last term, Power felt that there was an element of danger in putting a long-term deal on the table.

The Advertiser understands Swindon offered Archibald-Henville a significantly reduced basic wage with pay as you play bonuses making up a large chunk of the overall package - the best the club could reasonably afford, in the eyes of the chairman.

Power said: “He’s a lovely lad, fantastic player, but we can’t afford, with our budget, to have someone that could break down at any time and then we have to carry his wages through the rest of the season.

“The deal we offered him was mainly based on a pay-as-you-play package and he felt maybe he could get a better deal somewhere else.

“I hope he does because he’s a lovely lad, it’s just at the moment we can’t take those type of risks."

Meanwhile, Power has stressed that he and manager Mark Cooper have continued “working tirelessly” in the transfer market despite two months of uncertainty and High Court drama.

“I’ve been working on the back burner anyway. There’s certain things I couldn’t sign up to.

“I couldn’t do this, I couldn’t do that because of the restrictions we was under.

“Things have been in place. Me and Mark have been working tirelessly. We’ve got ideas, we’ve got targets, and we’ve got to wait now for them to come to fruition.

“My model’s always been that we need to get the club on a sound footing. I believe with my contacts I can get a team that can be competitive for a fraction of the price and then when I’m long gone and Sangita (Shah) is long gone, the football club’s in a healthy position.

“That’s all I’m trying to do.

“I know there’s loads of fans that would like to spend millions and millions on players, but unfortunately I haven’t got millions and millions.”

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5:40am Thu 3 Jul 14

whitety says...

well said mr power give the lad your backing.
well said mr power give the lad your backing. whitety
  • Score: 21

7:13am Thu 3 Jul 14

We are PANTS says...

Time for us all to unite and show Lee Power that our beloved club is a worthy cause.... We could start by those who held back buying season tickets getting there skates on and renewing ASAP... Hopefully, this would free up funds for them to bolster our very scant squad.....
Time for us all to unite and show Lee Power that our beloved club is a worthy cause.... We could start by those who held back buying season tickets getting there skates on and renewing ASAP... Hopefully, this would free up funds for them to bolster our very scant squad..... We are PANTS
  • Score: 22

7:26am Thu 3 Jul 14

SN1Red says...

We need anothee investor with money. Power has been talking about a 3rd investor and if that investor was a multi-millionaire all I would want max is him to just feed money into the club when we need it like Andrew Black did before Di Canio
We need anothee investor with money. Power has been talking about a 3rd investor and if that investor was a multi-millionaire all I would want max is him to just feed money into the club when we need it like Andrew Black did before Di Canio SN1Red
  • Score: -13

7:27am Thu 3 Jul 14

SN1Red says...

SN1Red wrote:
We need anothee investor with money. Power has been talking about a 3rd investor and if that investor was a multi-millionaire all I would want max is him to just feed money into the club when we need it like Andrew Black did before Di Canio
I throw all my support behind Power and hopefully we can return to Tier 2 and stay there on our budget.
[quote][p][bold]SN1Red[/bold] wrote: We need anothee investor with money. Power has been talking about a 3rd investor and if that investor was a multi-millionaire all I would want max is him to just feed money into the club when we need it like Andrew Black did before Di Canio[/p][/quote]I throw all my support behind Power and hopefully we can return to Tier 2 and stay there on our budget. SN1Red
  • Score: 10

7:53am Thu 3 Jul 14

London Red says...

The last thing we need now is another Black - as if we get hooked on his cash and he gets bored - we are finished!!
.
What we need is Power to get the football club running self sufficiently and him to use his contacts and knowledge to keep us competitive at the same time
.
Then we need an investor who will put money into the infrastructure - which will benefit the club long after they have all gone!
.
If we have someone who has money to invest in the academy, training facilities and the stadium - the club and ultimately the owners should
benefit long term
.
Then through increased revenue we can increase the footballing budget and hopefully start an upward spiral
The last thing we need now is another Black - as if we get hooked on his cash and he gets bored - we are finished!! . What we need is Power to get the football club running self sufficiently and him to use his contacts and knowledge to keep us competitive at the same time . Then we need an investor who will put money into the infrastructure - which will benefit the club long after they have all gone! . If we have someone who has money to invest in the academy, training facilities and the stadium - the club and ultimately the owners should benefit long term . Then through increased revenue we can increase the footballing budget and hopefully start an upward spiral London Red
  • Score: 25

7:57am Thu 3 Jul 14

Another view says...

Can't argue with any of that. Stability has seemed always just beyond our grasp in the 35 or so years I've lived in the Swindon area. The club showed last season what can be done on a tight budget. Now with all the shenanigans out of the way the club can move on, even if it takes another few years before we make the championship.
Can't argue with any of that. Stability has seemed always just beyond our grasp in the 35 or so years I've lived in the Swindon area. The club showed last season what can be done on a tight budget. Now with all the shenanigans out of the way the club can move on, even if it takes another few years before we make the championship. Another view
  • Score: 13

8:25am Thu 3 Jul 14

port de soller says...

Good to see the High Earners coming off the wage Bill,how many sicknotes have we had over the last few seasons and what was the cost??????
I dread to think.I get the feelings Williams could be the next one to go as I guess being a Pdc signing he must be on a high wage for the Division.
Wow we have had our share of Dodgy owners over the last Fifty odd years and sailed so close to the Wind on many occaisions.
Just feels like we may have a clean slate now and hopefully LP can do what he say´s he is trying to do.
As said before so many clubs in our division are on half what we get in attendance numbers(however they never had a wage bill like ours)
So as most posters have said time to support LP I guess as he is all weh have,let´s call it a last chance saloon.So heads up all STFC Fans if we do as we did last season that would I think please a lot of us.Just remember the Black days have gone and we have to work within the clubs means.
Ps see jeds pal is in the deep brown stuff at Hereford(how are these type of people able to run a Football club??)
Good to see the High Earners coming off the wage Bill,how many sicknotes have we had over the last few seasons and what was the cost?????? I dread to think.I get the feelings Williams could be the next one to go as I guess being a Pdc signing he must be on a high wage for the Division. Wow we have had our share of Dodgy owners over the last Fifty odd years and sailed so close to the Wind on many occaisions. Just feels like we may have a clean slate now and hopefully LP can do what he say´s he is trying to do. As said before so many clubs in our division are on half what we get in attendance numbers(however they never had a wage bill like ours) So as most posters have said time to support LP I guess as he is all weh have,let´s call it a last chance saloon.So heads up all STFC Fans if we do as we did last season that would I think please a lot of us.Just remember the Black days have gone and we have to work within the clubs means. Ps see jeds pal is in the deep brown stuff at Hereford(how are these type of people able to run a Football club??) port de soller
  • Score: -1

8:26am Thu 3 Jul 14

Rgbargee says...

Lee is doing a good job and is making loads of progress making the club viable.
He does need extra cash and support from a rich investor (all clubs do today) who will have a long term objective. We as a club can reach the Championship with our current model of good loan players and youngsters who have the ability, if not the experience. However with a little more cash to spend on experienced players then we can get our promotion much sooner.
Lee worries me slightly as he mentions his moving on, or not being here, too often for my liking. I ask Lee "what is your five year plan?"
Lee is doing a good job and is making loads of progress making the club viable. He does need extra cash and support from a rich investor (all clubs do today) who will have a long term objective. We as a club can reach the Championship with our current model of good loan players and youngsters who have the ability, if not the experience. However with a little more cash to spend on experienced players then we can get our promotion much sooner. Lee worries me slightly as he mentions his moving on, or not being here, too often for my liking. I ask Lee "what is your five year plan?" Rgbargee
  • Score: 2

8:44am Thu 3 Jul 14

Bassett Hound says...

Does anyone have information on the Swindon fan who has died and left the club £2,000,000 to be spent on ground improvements or youth football?
Does anyone have information on the Swindon fan who has died and left the club £2,000,000 to be spent on ground improvements or youth football? Bassett Hound
  • Score: -3

9:09am Thu 3 Jul 14

old town robin says...

port de soller wrote:
Good to see the High Earners coming off the wage Bill,how many sicknotes have we had over the last few seasons and what was the cost??????
I dread to think.I get the feelings Williams could be the next one to go as I guess being a Pdc signing he must be on a high wage for the Division.
Wow we have had our share of Dodgy owners over the last Fifty odd years and sailed so close to the Wind on many occaisions.
Just feels like we may have a clean slate now and hopefully LP can do what he say´s he is trying to do.
As said before so many clubs in our division are on half what we get in attendance numbers(however they never had a wage bill like ours)
So as most posters have said time to support LP I guess as he is all weh have,let´s call it a last chance saloon.So heads up all STFC Fans if we do as we did last season that would I think please a lot of us.Just remember the Black days have gone and we have to work within the clubs means.
Ps see jeds pal is in the deep brown stuff at Hereford(how are these type of people able to run a Football club??)
Rumour has it that Scunthorpe can have Williams for £75k, but the high wages are a problem.Personally hope he stays, think this could be a good season for him to show he can do the business.

Ajose wants away from Posh, thought he had been released, apparently not, also not sure we could afford him, but his transfer value can't be too high now he's in his last year with them and Lee might be able to get some sort of deal for a player that proved can fit in with the set up here.
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Good to see the High Earners coming off the wage Bill,how many sicknotes have we had over the last few seasons and what was the cost?????? I dread to think.I get the feelings Williams could be the next one to go as I guess being a Pdc signing he must be on a high wage for the Division. Wow we have had our share of Dodgy owners over the last Fifty odd years and sailed so close to the Wind on many occaisions. Just feels like we may have a clean slate now and hopefully LP can do what he say´s he is trying to do. As said before so many clubs in our division are on half what we get in attendance numbers(however they never had a wage bill like ours) So as most posters have said time to support LP I guess as he is all weh have,let´s call it a last chance saloon.So heads up all STFC Fans if we do as we did last season that would I think please a lot of us.Just remember the Black days have gone and we have to work within the clubs means. Ps see jeds pal is in the deep brown stuff at Hereford(how are these type of people able to run a Football club??)[/p][/quote]Rumour has it that Scunthorpe can have Williams for £75k, but the high wages are a problem.Personally hope he stays, think this could be a good season for him to show he can do the business. Ajose wants away from Posh, thought he had been released, apparently not, also not sure we could afford him, but his transfer value can't be too high now he's in his last year with them and Lee might be able to get some sort of deal for a player that proved can fit in with the set up here. old town robin
  • Score: 3

9:17am Thu 3 Jul 14

London Red says...

Rgbargee - Power outlined his vision in great detail when he first took over in Dec and he clearly stated he had a 5 year time frame in mind
.
It can be seen on the below link: http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/25
261170
Rgbargee - Power outlined his vision in great detail when he first took over in Dec and he clearly stated he had a 5 year time frame in mind . It can be seen on the below link: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/25 261170 London Red
  • Score: 0

9:19am Thu 3 Jul 14

London Red says...

Sam said there is nothin in the Scunny Williams rumours
.
Posh list all players in their final year - its a club policy - that is what happened to Ajose along with 5 others I think
Sam said there is nothin in the Scunny Williams rumours . Posh list all players in their final year - its a club policy - that is what happened to Ajose along with 5 others I think London Red
  • Score: 0

9:44am Thu 3 Jul 14

Wilesy says...

old town robin wrote:
port de soller wrote:
Good to see the High Earners coming off the wage Bill,how many sicknotes have we had over the last few seasons and what was the cost??????
I dread to think.I get the feelings Williams could be the next one to go as I guess being a Pdc signing he must be on a high wage for the Division.
Wow we have had our share of Dodgy owners over the last Fifty odd years and sailed so close to the Wind on many occaisions.
Just feels like we may have a clean slate now and hopefully LP can do what he say´s he is trying to do.
As said before so many clubs in our division are on half what we get in attendance numbers(however they never had a wage bill like ours)
So as most posters have said time to support LP I guess as he is all weh have,let´s call it a last chance saloon.So heads up all STFC Fans if we do as we did last season that would I think please a lot of us.Just remember the Black days have gone and we have to work within the clubs means.
Ps see jeds pal is in the deep brown stuff at Hereford(how are these type of people able to run a Football club??)
Rumour has it that Scunthorpe can have Williams for £75k, but the high wages are a problem.Personally hope he stays, think this could be a good season for him to show he can do the business.

Ajose wants away from Posh, thought he had been released, apparently not, also not sure we could afford him, but his transfer value can't be too high now he's in his last year with them and Lee might be able to get some sort of deal for a player that proved can fit in with the set up here.
After using the loan market for mainly midfielders and defenders last year I would like to see us bring in a top young Premiership striker on loan, a bit like MK Dons did with Bamford last season, but on a season long loan with no returns and potential January sale.

I know the number of replacements got debated last week but my preference for starters would be

Loan 1 = top striker (replaces Mason)
Loan 2 = top winger (replaces Pritchard)
Loan 3 = top CB (replaces Stephens / Hall, and I hope Stephens returns)
Perm 1 = CB (replaces TAH)
Perm 2 = defensive MF boss (replaces Navarro)
Perm 3 = winger (replaces N'Guessan)
Perm 4 = LB (replaces Jay)
Perm 5 = back up keeper (replaces Belford)

Assuming the perm replacements are on half the 'PDC era' wages we save money on the TAH, Jay and Navarro wage, plus lose Ranger's wage. If Willo goes and is replaced in same way that's 5 players wages off the books. Maybe go with another loan for a perm to make it 6, or don't replace Willo to make it 7.

Stronger side as well as all the youngsters now have a year's experience.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Good to see the High Earners coming off the wage Bill,how many sicknotes have we had over the last few seasons and what was the cost?????? I dread to think.I get the feelings Williams could be the next one to go as I guess being a Pdc signing he must be on a high wage for the Division. Wow we have had our share of Dodgy owners over the last Fifty odd years and sailed so close to the Wind on many occaisions. Just feels like we may have a clean slate now and hopefully LP can do what he say´s he is trying to do. As said before so many clubs in our division are on half what we get in attendance numbers(however they never had a wage bill like ours) So as most posters have said time to support LP I guess as he is all weh have,let´s call it a last chance saloon.So heads up all STFC Fans if we do as we did last season that would I think please a lot of us.Just remember the Black days have gone and we have to work within the clubs means. Ps see jeds pal is in the deep brown stuff at Hereford(how are these type of people able to run a Football club??)[/p][/quote]Rumour has it that Scunthorpe can have Williams for £75k, but the high wages are a problem.Personally hope he stays, think this could be a good season for him to show he can do the business. Ajose wants away from Posh, thought he had been released, apparently not, also not sure we could afford him, but his transfer value can't be too high now he's in his last year with them and Lee might be able to get some sort of deal for a player that proved can fit in with the set up here.[/p][/quote]After using the loan market for mainly midfielders and defenders last year I would like to see us bring in a top young Premiership striker on loan, a bit like MK Dons did with Bamford last season, but on a season long loan with no returns and potential January sale. I know the number of replacements got debated last week but my preference for starters would be Loan 1 = top striker (replaces Mason) Loan 2 = top winger (replaces Pritchard) Loan 3 = top CB (replaces Stephens / Hall, and I hope Stephens returns) Perm 1 = CB (replaces TAH) Perm 2 = defensive MF boss (replaces Navarro) Perm 3 = winger (replaces N'Guessan) Perm 4 = LB (replaces Jay) Perm 5 = back up keeper (replaces Belford) Assuming the perm replacements are on half the 'PDC era' wages we save money on the TAH, Jay and Navarro wage, plus lose Ranger's wage. If Willo goes and is replaced in same way that's 5 players wages off the books. Maybe go with another loan for a perm to make it 6, or don't replace Willo to make it 7. Stronger side as well as all the youngsters now have a year's experience. Wilesy
  • Score: 1

11:55am Thu 3 Jul 14

LeGod says...

Why does everyone keep on about Hall playing for us next season when he has signed for Birmingham which happenned weeks ago people need to catch up and would we have wanted him anyway as to me the guy was a liability.
Why does everyone keep on about Hall playing for us next season when he has signed for Birmingham which happenned weeks ago people need to catch up and would we have wanted him anyway as to me the guy was a liability. LeGod
  • Score: -1

3:26pm Thu 3 Jul 14

harley red says...

If you haven't got millions and millions then sell and bugger of simple really
If you haven't got millions and millions then sell and bugger of simple really harley red
  • Score: -9

6:20pm Thu 3 Jul 14

SN1Red says...

London Red wrote:
The last thing we need now is another Black - as if we get hooked on his cash and he gets bored - we are finished!!
.
What we need is Power to get the football club running self sufficiently and him to use his contacts and knowledge to keep us competitive at the same time
.
Then we need an investor who will put money into the infrastructure - which will benefit the club long after they have all gone!
.
If we have someone who has money to invest in the academy, training facilities and the stadium - the club and ultimately the owners should
benefit long term
.
Then through increased revenue we can increase the footballing budget and hopefully start an upward spiral
We need someone with money so if we are about to go out of business someone can be there to catch us and put us on our feet.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: The last thing we need now is another Black - as if we get hooked on his cash and he gets bored - we are finished!! . What we need is Power to get the football club running self sufficiently and him to use his contacts and knowledge to keep us competitive at the same time . Then we need an investor who will put money into the infrastructure - which will benefit the club long after they have all gone! . If we have someone who has money to invest in the academy, training facilities and the stadium - the club and ultimately the owners should benefit long term . Then through increased revenue we can increase the footballing budget and hopefully start an upward spiral[/p][/quote]We need someone with money so if we are about to go out of business someone can be there to catch us and put us on our feet. SN1Red
  • Score: 0

1:55am Sat 5 Jul 14

mancrobin says...

London Red wrote:
The last thing we need now is another Black - as if we get hooked on his cash and he gets bored - we are finished!!
.
What we need is Power to get the football club running self sufficiently and him to use his contacts and knowledge to keep us competitive at the same time
.
Then we need an investor who will put money into the infrastructure - which will benefit the club long after they have all gone!
.
If we have someone who has money to invest in the academy, training facilities and the stadium - the club and ultimately the owners should
benefit long term
.
Then through increased revenue we can increase the footballing budget and hopefully start an upward spiral
Spot on LR! Well said.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: The last thing we need now is another Black - as if we get hooked on his cash and he gets bored - we are finished!! . What we need is Power to get the football club running self sufficiently and him to use his contacts and knowledge to keep us competitive at the same time . Then we need an investor who will put money into the infrastructure - which will benefit the club long after they have all gone! . If we have someone who has money to invest in the academy, training facilities and the stadium - the club and ultimately the owners should benefit long term . Then through increased revenue we can increase the footballing budget and hopefully start an upward spiral[/p][/quote]Spot on LR! Well said. mancrobin
  • Score: 0

2:17am Sat 5 Jul 14

mancrobin says...

Seems like the best solution for Troy and completely see where Power is coming from in terms of financial commitment.

Despite that, I'm really disappointed to see him go because he is an extremely intelligent footballer and will be a big hole to fill.

Chatting to Carlisle fans last night, they seem pretty happy with the deal but they already have a couple of good young centre backs. Troy for them is excellent cover and teaching the know how.

He could have done that at Swindon, but perhaps Power thought he he was not so useful in this role?
Seems like the best solution for Troy and completely see where Power is coming from in terms of financial commitment. Despite that, I'm really disappointed to see him go because he is an extremely intelligent footballer and will be a big hole to fill. Chatting to Carlisle fans last night, they seem pretty happy with the deal but they already have a couple of good young centre backs. Troy for them is excellent cover and teaching the know how. He could have done that at Swindon, but perhaps Power thought he he was not so useful in this role? mancrobin
  • Score: 0

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