Driver in Swindon police chase had just been released from jail for same crime

Swindon Advertiser: Steven Ross Steven Ross

A BANNED motorist led police on a high-speed chase just weeks after being released from prison for the same thing.

Steven Ross drove at 90mph the wrong way along the section of the rain-lashed Great Western Way between Mannington and Bridgemead as he tried to escape officers in a stolen car.

He also sped through red traffic lights, went the wrong way round roundabouts and turned the headlights off before losing control and spinning the car on a country road.

But as the 39-year-old is already behind bars, having been recalled on the earlier matter, he probably won’t spend another day inside as a result of the new offences.

Ross, who nearly died when he overdosed on a legal high in 2012, took a Vauxhall Astra after the driver left the engine running as he made a delivery on Victoria Road.

Later in the evening of Thursday, December 12 a police patrol spotted the vehicle in the Railway Village and gave chase as he went the wrong way down a one-way street.

Ross sped along Faringdon Road and Westcott Place on to Wootton Bassett Road where he crossed on to the wrong carriageway by Carphone Warehouse.

He then went round the roundabout the wrong way, turning right on to Great Western Way against the direction of traffic where he reached 90mph.

The car then went on to Paddington Drive and Penzance Drive then back the way he came along Wootton Bassett Road, turning down Park Lane past the Outlet Village.

Arriving back on Great Western Way at the Bruce Street bridges, he turned up Mead Way, past the Renault Building, then left on to Purton Road.

As he headed out into the country, he turned the headlights off before losing control and spinning the vehicle.

But even as the police tried to hem him in, the motorist continued for a short distance in reverse as he tried to still get away.

Colin Meeke, prosecuting, told Swindon Crown Court that the last section was caught on camera and played the footage of the end of the chase in court.

Much of the incident had taken place on residential streets, he said, though there were few pedestrians around because of the time of night.

Ross, of Culvery Court, Harding Street, pleaded guilty to aggravated taking without consent, driving while disqualified and without insurance.

The court heard he was jailed for two-and-a-half years in August 2012 for burglary and dangerous driving.

Will Woodman, defending, said his client had only been out of prison for a few weeks when he committed the offence.

He said he had done well in that time, only falling back into drug use twice having done his best to address his addiction while inside, but was struggling with money.

A Job Seekers’ Allowance claim was taking a long time to come through, he said, and he was getting coupons for clothing and any money from his mum was going on rent.

He said the taking of the car was an opportunistic offence and the driving off was because he did not want to get caught.

Jailing him Judge Tim Mousley QC said: “It began with your taking a vehicle and led to you driving it through Swindon over a considerable distance.

“Your driving was appalling. If I was to go into detail as to why your driving was appalling it would take some time to sentence you.

“You drove at excess speed, carried out a number of dangerous manoeuvres, ignored a number of road signs and signals and eventually lost control of the vehicle having been pursued by the police, but still you tried to drive off again.”

As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.

In January 2012, Ross was hospitalised after injecting a then legal high called ‘super-cocaine’.

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6:22am Sat 18 Jan 14

ChannelX says...

Oh look, a criminal who'd broken the law immediately repeated the same crime as soon as he'd been released early from prison for the last crime.

Who'd have thought it?
Oh look, a criminal who'd broken the law immediately repeated the same crime as soon as he'd been released early from prison for the last crime. Who'd have thought it? ChannelX

9:03am Sat 18 Jan 14

Always Grumpy says...

"Ross, who nearly died when he overdosed on a legal high in 2012, took a Vauxhall Astra after the driver left the engine running as he made a delivery on Victoria Road."

What a pity he hadn't died. Society doesn't need creatures like this in their midst.
"Ross, who nearly died when he overdosed on a legal high in 2012, took a Vauxhall Astra after the driver left the engine running as he made a delivery on Victoria Road." What a pity he hadn't died. Society doesn't need creatures like this in their midst. Always Grumpy

9:47am Sat 18 Jan 14

semitonic says...

Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent. semitonic

10:51am Sat 18 Jan 14

RichardR1 says...

So much for justice he goes back to prison but will not spend any longer there than he would have after recall. Brilliant.
So much for justice he goes back to prison but will not spend any longer there than he would have after recall. Brilliant. RichardR1

11:02am Sat 18 Jan 14

MrAngry says...

Will Woodman, defending, said his client had only been out of prison for a few weeks and had done well in that time, only falling back into drug use twice.

Some defence. If two accounts of drug use and one of dangerous driving, ie. 3 offences in two weeks is doing well for this individual, then jail is the best place for him.
Will Woodman, defending, said his client had only been out of prison for a few weeks and had done well in that time, only falling back into drug use twice. Some defence. If two accounts of drug use and one of dangerous driving, ie. 3 offences in two weeks is doing well for this individual, then jail is the best place for him. MrAngry

11:48am Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
[quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs. Empty Car Park

12:17pm Sat 18 Jan 14

tucker81 says...

I hope he dies
I hope he dies tucker81

12:19pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Chrisg46 says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
Short answer, yes it is.

Or were you being sarcastic?
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]Short answer, yes it is. Or were you being sarcastic? Chrisg46

12:23pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Chrisg46 wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
Short answer, yes it is.

Or were you being sarcastic?
Is this your new login name Ringer?

You're not fooling anyone :-)

This man just needs some help, he's obviously not a bad lad.
[quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]Short answer, yes it is. Or were you being sarcastic?[/p][/quote]Is this your new login name Ringer? You're not fooling anyone :-) This man just needs some help, he's obviously not a bad lad. Empty Car Park

12:39pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Chrisg46 says...

No idea who Ringer is, I have been here for some time now.

In what way is he not a bad lad? Having been released from prison where to his credit he tried to get clean, he falls into drug use twice in a couple of weeks (obviously didnt try hard). He then steals a car for no particular reason before driving in a way that can be best described as f king stupid, risking his life, other motorists and the police officers trying to stop him. Having crashed the vehicle, he then continues to try to escape?
In what way does this make him "obviously not a bad lad?" Is it the posed photo?
Why is it not his fault he needs drugs, was he fed them as a baby? or did he choose to take them?
No idea who Ringer is, I have been here for some time now. In what way is he not a bad lad? Having been released from prison where to his credit he tried to get clean, he falls into drug use twice in a couple of weeks (obviously didnt try hard). He then steals a car for no particular reason before driving in a way that can be best described as f king stupid, risking his life, other motorists and the police officers trying to stop him. Having crashed the vehicle, he then continues to try to escape? In what way does this make him "obviously not a bad lad?" Is it the posed photo? Why is it not his fault he needs drugs, was he fed them as a baby? or did he choose to take them? Chrisg46

1:19pm Sat 18 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
It's not his fault he needs drugs.

Why do t@wats like you disgust me.

He gets stoned, gets into a high speed chase with (LOL highly trained police drivers) but in so doing puts me and my family at risk.

If his address was printed he would almost certainly get the local posey round one morning to give him a wake up call.

And people who support this scummy trash need a visit to.

Please leave your name and address for verification on this web site and I will try to get Luigi and the boys to give you a friendly visit.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]It's not his fault he needs drugs. Why do t@wats like you disgust me. He gets stoned, gets into a high speed chase with (LOL highly trained police drivers) but in so doing puts me and my family at risk. If his address was printed he would almost certainly get the local posey round one morning to give him a wake up call. And people who support this scummy trash need a visit to. Please leave your name and address for verification on this web site and I will try to get Luigi and the boys to give you a friendly visit. anotherimigrant

1:44pm Sat 18 Jan 14

PJC says...

'As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.' Ermmmm no! He should have a lifetime driving ban!!
'As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.' Ermmmm no! He should have a lifetime driving ban!! PJC

1:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MrAngry says...

PJC wrote:
'As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.' Ermmmm no! He should have a lifetime driving ban!!
The length of the ban is irrelevant as he will ignore it anyway..

He stole a car, drove on the wrong side of the road at 90mph in a 40mph zone with a police car in pursuit. This someone who enjoys breaking rules - a ban isn't going to make any difference.
[quote][p][bold]PJC[/bold] wrote: 'As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.' Ermmmm no! He should have a lifetime driving ban!![/p][/quote]The length of the ban is irrelevant as he will ignore it anyway.. He stole a car, drove on the wrong side of the road at 90mph in a 40mph zone with a police car in pursuit. This someone who enjoys breaking rules - a ban isn't going to make any difference. MrAngry

2:10pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Chrisg46 wrote:
No idea who Ringer is, I have been here for some time now.

In what way is he not a bad lad? Having been released from prison where to his credit he tried to get clean, he falls into drug use twice in a couple of weeks (obviously didnt try hard). He then steals a car for no particular reason before driving in a way that can be best described as f king stupid, risking his life, other motorists and the police officers trying to stop him. Having crashed the vehicle, he then continues to try to escape?
In what way does this make him "obviously not a bad lad?" Is it the posed photo?
Why is it not his fault he needs drugs, was he fed them as a baby? or did he choose to take them?
We all know it's you Ringer. All you ever do is go on about criminals this, criminals that, you don't talk about anything else.

This man is clearly not a criminal, he just has an addiction to drugs. That is an illness and so it's not his fault.

Now will you please stop ruining threads and let others have a proper discussion!
[quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: No idea who Ringer is, I have been here for some time now. In what way is he not a bad lad? Having been released from prison where to his credit he tried to get clean, he falls into drug use twice in a couple of weeks (obviously didnt try hard). He then steals a car for no particular reason before driving in a way that can be best described as f king stupid, risking his life, other motorists and the police officers trying to stop him. Having crashed the vehicle, he then continues to try to escape? In what way does this make him "obviously not a bad lad?" Is it the posed photo? Why is it not his fault he needs drugs, was he fed them as a baby? or did he choose to take them?[/p][/quote]We all know it's you Ringer. All you ever do is go on about criminals this, criminals that, you don't talk about anything else. This man is clearly not a criminal, he just has an addiction to drugs. That is an illness and so it's not his fault. Now will you please stop ruining threads and let others have a proper discussion! Empty Car Park

2:35pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MrAngry says...

Empty Car Park - There is nothing in the story to indicate that drugs were involved in the car theft and subsequent high speed chase. One of our usually lenient judges also saw fit to jail him rather than refer him to a drug rehabilitation programme. He has a criminal record - that makes him a criminal in my book.
Empty Car Park - There is nothing in the story to indicate that drugs were involved in the car theft and subsequent high speed chase. One of our usually lenient judges also saw fit to jail him rather than refer him to a drug rehabilitation programme. He has a criminal record - that makes him a criminal in my book. MrAngry

2:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

MrAngry wrote:
Empty Car Park - There is nothing in the story to indicate that drugs were involved in the car theft and subsequent high speed chase. One of our usually lenient judges also saw fit to jail him rather than refer him to a drug rehabilitation programme. He has a criminal record - that makes him a criminal in my book.
Another Ringer login alias?
[quote][p][bold]MrAngry[/bold] wrote: Empty Car Park - There is nothing in the story to indicate that drugs were involved in the car theft and subsequent high speed chase. One of our usually lenient judges also saw fit to jail him rather than refer him to a drug rehabilitation programme. He has a criminal record - that makes him a criminal in my book.[/p][/quote]Another Ringer login alias? Empty Car Park

2:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Chrisg46 says...

"We all know its you Ringer" - Well obviously you don't, because I am not who you think. No doubt you wont accept that, so lets move on.

He takes drugs and steals a car - he is therefore a criminal by definition, unless drug taking has been legalised? No? In that case, he is as stated - a criminal.

Please explain how having a counter position to yours is ruining a discussion? Surely having opposing points of view is a discussion? Or is this something you spit out when you know you are on shaky ground? Will you be accusing people of being like Hitler next?
"We all know its you Ringer" - Well obviously you don't, because I am not who you think. No doubt you wont accept that, so lets move on. He takes drugs and steals a car - he is therefore a criminal by definition, unless drug taking has been legalised? No? In that case, he is as stated - a criminal. Please explain how having a counter position to yours is ruining a discussion? Surely having opposing points of view is a discussion? Or is this something you spit out when you know you are on shaky ground? Will you be accusing people of being like Hitler next? Chrisg46

3:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MrAngry says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
MrAngry wrote:
Empty Car Park - There is nothing in the story to indicate that drugs were involved in the car theft and subsequent high speed chase. One of our usually lenient judges also saw fit to jail him rather than refer him to a drug rehabilitation programme. He has a criminal record - that makes him a criminal in my book.
Another Ringer login alias?
****
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrAngry[/bold] wrote: Empty Car Park - There is nothing in the story to indicate that drugs were involved in the car theft and subsequent high speed chase. One of our usually lenient judges also saw fit to jail him rather than refer him to a drug rehabilitation programme. He has a criminal record - that makes him a criminal in my book.[/p][/quote]Another Ringer login alias?[/p][/quote]**** MrAngry

3:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Moth says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish. Moth

3:07pm Sat 18 Jan 14

jerry59 says...

what a pointless life......
what a pointless life...... jerry59

3:11pm Sat 18 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

jerry59 wrote:
what a pointless life......
Don't give up, you can always call the Samaritans.
[quote][p][bold]jerry59[/bold] wrote: what a pointless life......[/p][/quote]Don't give up, you can always call the Samaritans. anotherimigrant

3:17pm Sat 18 Jan 14

MrAngry says...

jerry59 wrote:
what a pointless life......
Who the person in the story or Empty Car Park?
[quote][p][bold]jerry59[/bold] wrote: what a pointless life......[/p][/quote]Who the person in the story or Empty Car Park? MrAngry

5:13pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Chrisg46 wrote:
"We all know its you Ringer" - Well obviously you don't, because I am not who you think. No doubt you wont accept that, so lets move on.

He takes drugs and steals a car - he is therefore a criminal by definition, unless drug taking has been legalised? No? In that case, he is as stated - a criminal.

Please explain how having a counter position to yours is ruining a discussion? Surely having opposing points of view is a discussion? Or is this something you spit out when you know you are on shaky ground? Will you be accusing people of being like Hitler next?
Typical internet bullying from Ringer / Chrisg46. I'm not your victim. Now go and get a hobby and do something useful with your life.
[quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: "We all know its you Ringer" - Well obviously you don't, because I am not who you think. No doubt you wont accept that, so lets move on. He takes drugs and steals a car - he is therefore a criminal by definition, unless drug taking has been legalised? No? In that case, he is as stated - a criminal. Please explain how having a counter position to yours is ruining a discussion? Surely having opposing points of view is a discussion? Or is this something you spit out when you know you are on shaky ground? Will you be accusing people of being like Hitler next?[/p][/quote]Typical internet bullying from Ringer / Chrisg46. I'm not your victim. Now go and get a hobby and do something useful with your life. Empty Car Park

5:15pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Moth wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.
Using captial letters to emphasise certain words gives you away Ringer. You seem to be using at least four different logins on this story.

Go out and get a hobby and stop spending all day on here.
[quote][p][bold]Moth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.[/p][/quote]Using captial letters to emphasise certain words gives you away Ringer. You seem to be using at least four different logins on this story. Go out and get a hobby and stop spending all day on here. Empty Car Park

6:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

So a troll has now created an Empty Car Park mirror account to try to make the real one look bad. I suggest the real Empty Car Park reports this and gets the IP address tracked. Pity site mods appear to do nothing about the site abuse that goes on daily from 1 individual.
So a troll has now created an Empty Car Park mirror account to try to make the real one look bad. I suggest the real Empty Car Park reports this and gets the IP address tracked. Pity site mods appear to do nothing about the site abuse that goes on daily from 1 individual. Davey Gravey

8:08am Sun 19 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

Moth wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.
I have to agree with this comment and that is the real problem with justice in this country. No one is a criminal and everyone is a misunderstood victim who should have £millions spent on them while the real victim gets forgotten.
Ok so the judges dont help by letting everyone off, but that is not just because they are stupid and out of touch, they are also running scared of the ludicrous human rights act and the costs of retrials and also the fact our prisons are full (mainly because we have such a soft system and for many being in prison isnt the punishment for their crime it should be).

But yes, this man made a conscious choice to take drugs, he made a conscious choice to break the law, how is not his fault? Of course it is and the sooner we wake up to the fact they are not all "victims" and most know exactly what they are doing and must have the justice they deserve rather than the insulting system we have now. This guy is a complete waste of oxygen and should be treated with the same contempt he treats society.
[quote][p][bold]Moth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.[/p][/quote]I have to agree with this comment and that is the real problem with justice in this country. No one is a criminal and everyone is a misunderstood victim who should have £millions spent on them while the real victim gets forgotten. Ok so the judges dont help by letting everyone off, but that is not just because they are stupid and out of touch, they are also running scared of the ludicrous human rights act and the costs of retrials and also the fact our prisons are full (mainly because we have such a soft system and for many being in prison isnt the punishment for their crime it should be). But yes, this man made a conscious choice to take drugs, he made a conscious choice to break the law, how is not his fault? Of course it is and the sooner we wake up to the fact they are not all "victims" and most know exactly what they are doing and must have the justice they deserve rather than the insulting system we have now. This guy is a complete waste of oxygen and should be treated with the same contempt he treats society. house on the hill

9:57am Sun 19 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

tucker81 wrote:
I hope he dies
Agree.
[quote][p][bold]tucker81[/bold] wrote: I hope he dies[/p][/quote]Agree. anotherimigrant

9:59am Sun 19 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Moth wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.
Using captial letters to emphasise certain words gives you away Ringer. You seem to be using at least four different logins on this story.

Go out and get a hobby and stop spending all day on here.
personally I wish youd both f&*kc off.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]And who got him on drugs? HIMSELF. HE is the only one to blame - no-one else. What if this menace had killed someone innocent? It was sheer good luck that he didn't. No doubt he'll come out of jail and do exactly the same thing again. His type never learn - they're too selfish.[/p][/quote]Using captial letters to emphasise certain words gives you away Ringer. You seem to be using at least four different logins on this story. Go out and get a hobby and stop spending all day on here.[/p][/quote]personally I wish youd both f&*kc off. anotherimigrant

1:44pm Sun 19 Jan 14

PJC says...

MrAngry wrote:
PJC wrote:
'As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.' Ermmmm no! He should have a lifetime driving ban!!
The length of the ban is irrelevant as he will ignore it anyway..

He stole a car, drove on the wrong side of the road at 90mph in a 40mph zone with a police car in pursuit. This someone who enjoys breaking rules - a ban isn't going to make any difference.
Yes,fair enough, but they could sentence him to drive a car like Richard Hammond at an airfield and let him sort himself out.......
[quote][p][bold]MrAngry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJC[/bold] wrote: 'As well as jailing him for 20 months, he also banned him from the road for five years and until he has passed an extended test.' Ermmmm no! He should have a lifetime driving ban!![/p][/quote]The length of the ban is irrelevant as he will ignore it anyway.. He stole a car, drove on the wrong side of the road at 90mph in a 40mph zone with a police car in pursuit. This someone who enjoys breaking rules - a ban isn't going to make any difference.[/p][/quote]Yes,fair enough, but they could sentence him to drive a car like Richard Hammond at an airfield and let him sort himself out....... PJC

8:11pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Eppster says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
So you would have been happy if he had ploughed his stolen car into yours at 90mph and killed you and your family in the process?

letting him kill himself is the lesser of two evils here I could comfortably live with.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]So you would have been happy if he had ploughed his stolen car into yours at 90mph and killed you and your family in the process? letting him kill himself is the lesser of two evils here I could comfortably live with. Eppster

12:03am Mon 20 Jan 14

wa231 says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
semitonic wrote:
Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.
What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.
It is lucky a member of the public was not killed by his totally reckless driving. He is the one who does not care if others die. He has had too many chances already and needs to stop blaming the substances he abuses and our welfare system for his behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: Totally agree Grumpy. When he gets out he should be supplied with all the drugs he wants, and more, in the hope that he finishes himself off properly. That really would be public money well spent.[/p][/quote]What a disgusting comment! Wishing people dead is disgraceful. All this man needs is another chance and some drug rehabilitation. It's not his fault he needs drugs.[/p][/quote]It is lucky a member of the public was not killed by his totally reckless driving. He is the one who does not care if others die. He has had too many chances already and needs to stop blaming the substances he abuses and our welfare system for his behaviour. wa231

9:32pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

NONE OF THE ABOVE COMMENTS WERE MADE BY ME.
My login has been cloned.
I have no reason to suspect that Chris46 is another login from Ringer.
I certainly do not condone drugs, dangerous driving, or crime.

Adver moderators please sort out the nonsense or just shut this site down all together.

It should not be allowed to be hijacked by the politically obsessed idiot.

I won't mention his commonly known logins as most people are intelligent enough to realise who it is
NONE OF THE ABOVE COMMENTS WERE MADE BY ME. My login has been cloned. I have no reason to suspect that Chris46 is another login from Ringer. I certainly do not condone drugs, dangerous driving, or crime. Adver moderators please sort out the nonsense or just shut this site down all together. It should not be allowed to be hijacked by the politically obsessed idiot. I won't mention his commonly known logins as most people are intelligent enough to realise who it is Empty Car Park

9:58pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
So a troll has now created an Empty Car Park mirror account to try to make the real one look bad. I suggest the real Empty Car Park reports this and gets the IP address tracked. Pity site mods appear to do nothing about the site abuse that goes on daily from 1 individual.
Thank you

It is blatantly obvious who the troublemaker is.
Bizarre that someone should so desperate to ruin a public discussion thread.

Even stranger that he wasn't barred long ago
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: So a troll has now created an Empty Car Park mirror account to try to make the real one look bad. I suggest the real Empty Car Park reports this and gets the IP address tracked. Pity site mods appear to do nothing about the site abuse that goes on daily from 1 individual.[/p][/quote]Thank you It is blatantly obvious who the troublemaker is. Bizarre that someone should so desperate to ruin a public discussion thread. Even stranger that he wasn't barred long ago Empty Car Park

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