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SWINDON TOWN: Howe suggests Thomas move is down to player

Swindon Advertiser: Swindon Town submitted a bid for Wes Thomas of Bournemouth a week ago Swindon Town submitted a bid for Wes Thomas of Bournemouth a week ago

BOURNEMOUTH manager Eddie Howe has suggested that Wes Thomas will have the final say on whether or not he makes the move to Swindon Town.

Town submitted a bid for the striker, believed to be in the region of £100,000, a week ago but both chairman Lee Power and manager Mark Cooper have suggested that the offer was rebuffed by Bournemouth.

However, Howe has intimated that the Cherries are ready to let Thomas leave for Swindon as long as the deal is right for the player.

"That's one that was put to us and we put it to the player and really the ball is in his court," he told BBC Solent Sport.

When asked whether it could be a permanent deal, Howe said: "Yes, potentially, but the decision will rest with Wes as to what he does."

Thomas is understood not to be keen on dropping down to League One, despite having started just two games for Bournemouth this term.

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11:46am Fri 3 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

In other words he wants loads of dosh!
In other words he wants loads of dosh! Since 1950
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12:00pm Fri 3 Jan 14

LeGod says...

cant get in the cherries side and maybe he thinks he is better than what he is plus he wants to be on bigger money and maybe doesnt care if he's playing or not.
If he was that good championship sides would be queing up for him and i dont think they are.
Maybe our options are best at looking else where anyway.

Muff fans dont seem to rate him too much either mind you they bought Rantie for 2.5 million and he cant hit a barn door.
cant get in the cherries side and maybe he thinks he is better than what he is plus he wants to be on bigger money and maybe doesnt care if he's playing or not. If he was that good championship sides would be queing up for him and i dont think they are. Maybe our options are best at looking else where anyway. Muff fans dont seem to rate him too much either mind you they bought Rantie for 2.5 million and he cant hit a barn door. LeGod
  • Score: 6

12:01pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Since 1950 wrote:
In other words he wants loads of dosh!
It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else.

We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In other words he wants loads of dosh![/p][/quote]It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else. We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players. Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

12:05pm Fri 3 Jan 14

nlorenzo says...

Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.
Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie. nlorenzo
  • Score: 8

12:12pm Fri 3 Jan 14

castle9 says...

Happy to sit on a fat contract, so not he's the sort of player that we require.
Hope it works out for him, but surely its better to be playing...
Happy to sit on a fat contract, so not he's the sort of player that we require. Hope it works out for him, but surely its better to be playing... castle9
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Fri 3 Jan 14

mark.s says...

LeGod wrote:
cant get in the cherries side and maybe he thinks he is better than what he is plus he wants to be on bigger money and maybe doesnt care if he's playing or not.
If he was that good championship sides would be queing up for him and i dont think they are.
Maybe our options are best at looking else where anyway.

Muff fans dont seem to rate him too much either mind you they bought Rantie for 2.5 million and he cant hit a barn door.
Rantie is on a completely different level to Thomas. He just doesn't fit our pattern of play sometimes, and can't get a handle on the physicality of the championship. Hopefully given time he'll get there, his potential is huge, but we need to turn his flashes of genius in consistency.

Thomas may want to stay in the Championship, but I'd imagine the lack of Championship interest in him must speak volumes. He either drops to League One and starts playing football now, or does it in the summer. Best get it sorted now surely.

And if Thomas get's his head in the right place, he'd start firing at Swindon, and could end up in the League One playoffs with a shot at Championship anyway. Rub those brain cells together Wes.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: cant get in the cherries side and maybe he thinks he is better than what he is plus he wants to be on bigger money and maybe doesnt care if he's playing or not. If he was that good championship sides would be queing up for him and i dont think they are. Maybe our options are best at looking else where anyway. Muff fans dont seem to rate him too much either mind you they bought Rantie for 2.5 million and he cant hit a barn door.[/p][/quote]Rantie is on a completely different level to Thomas. He just doesn't fit our pattern of play sometimes, and can't get a handle on the physicality of the championship. Hopefully given time he'll get there, his potential is huge, but we need to turn his flashes of genius in consistency. Thomas may want to stay in the Championship, but I'd imagine the lack of Championship interest in him must speak volumes. He either drops to League One and starts playing football now, or does it in the summer. Best get it sorted now surely. And if Thomas get's his head in the right place, he'd start firing at Swindon, and could end up in the League One playoffs with a shot at Championship anyway. Rub those brain cells together Wes. mark.s
  • Score: 15

1:04pm Fri 3 Jan 14

LeGod says...

nlorenzo - i agree Howe is using it as bait for one of our players i'd tell him where to go and move on from Thomas. Its ok Muff fans saying Thomas is ia good player if so why didnt he play for them last season. And paying 2.5 million for Rantie and he cant fit into their style of play is rubbish. They paid 2.5 million for a bench warmer and a big time charlie (Thomas) sat along side him.
nlorenzo - i agree Howe is using it as bait for one of our players i'd tell him where to go and move on from Thomas. Its ok Muff fans saying Thomas is ia good player if so why didnt he play for them last season. And paying 2.5 million for Rantie and he cant fit into their style of play is rubbish. They paid 2.5 million for a bench warmer and a big time charlie (Thomas) sat along side him. LeGod
  • Score: 2

1:29pm Fri 3 Jan 14

oz ashes says...

mark.s wrote:
LeGod wrote: cant get in the cherries side and maybe he thinks he is better than what he is plus he wants to be on bigger money and maybe doesnt care if he's playing or not. If he was that good championship sides would be queing up for him and i dont think they are. Maybe our options are best at looking else where anyway. Muff fans dont seem to rate him too much either mind you they bought Rantie for 2.5 million and he cant hit a barn door.
Rantie is on a completely different level to Thomas. He just doesn't fit our pattern of play sometimes, and can't get a handle on the physicality of the championship. Hopefully given time he'll get there, his potential is huge, but we need to turn his flashes of genius in consistency. Thomas may want to stay in the Championship, but I'd imagine the lack of Championship interest in him must speak volumes. He either drops to League One and starts playing football now, or does it in the summer. Best get it sorted now surely. And if Thomas get's his head in the right place, he'd start firing at Swindon, and could end up in the League One playoffs with a shot at Championship anyway. Rub those brain cells together Wes.
like the way you said brain cells he got more than 1 then shame our current number 9 hasnt
[quote][p][bold]mark.s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: cant get in the cherries side and maybe he thinks he is better than what he is plus he wants to be on bigger money and maybe doesnt care if he's playing or not. If he was that good championship sides would be queing up for him and i dont think they are. Maybe our options are best at looking else where anyway. Muff fans dont seem to rate him too much either mind you they bought Rantie for 2.5 million and he cant hit a barn door.[/p][/quote]Rantie is on a completely different level to Thomas. He just doesn't fit our pattern of play sometimes, and can't get a handle on the physicality of the championship. Hopefully given time he'll get there, his potential is huge, but we need to turn his flashes of genius in consistency. Thomas may want to stay in the Championship, but I'd imagine the lack of Championship interest in him must speak volumes. He either drops to League One and starts playing football now, or does it in the summer. Best get it sorted now surely. And if Thomas get's his head in the right place, he'd start firing at Swindon, and could end up in the League One playoffs with a shot at Championship anyway. Rub those brain cells together Wes.[/p][/quote]like the way you said brain cells he got more than 1 then shame our current number 9 hasnt oz ashes
  • Score: 9

1:43pm Fri 3 Jan 14

mark.s says...

LeGod wrote:
nlorenzo - i agree Howe is using it as bait for one of our players i'd tell him where to go and move on from Thomas. Its ok Muff fans saying Thomas is ia good player if so why didnt he play for them last season. And paying 2.5 million for Rantie and he cant fit into their style of play is rubbish. They paid 2.5 million for a bench warmer and a big time charlie (Thomas) sat along side him.
If you can't get the transfer fee right, don't comment on the player you obviously know little about.

Thomas can be decent, if his head is in the right place. Put an arm around him and make him first choice, give him the confidence and he's capable of winning games on his own. He can be frustrating though, looking a world beater for 5 games and then looking like a donkey for 5 games. Confidence is the key.

I could easily see him getting a boost from moving and scoring 10 goals between now and May. He just doesn't have a future here.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: nlorenzo - i agree Howe is using it as bait for one of our players i'd tell him where to go and move on from Thomas. Its ok Muff fans saying Thomas is ia good player if so why didnt he play for them last season. And paying 2.5 million for Rantie and he cant fit into their style of play is rubbish. They paid 2.5 million for a bench warmer and a big time charlie (Thomas) sat along side him.[/p][/quote]If you can't get the transfer fee right, don't comment on the player you obviously know little about. Thomas can be decent, if his head is in the right place. Put an arm around him and make him first choice, give him the confidence and he's capable of winning games on his own. He can be frustrating though, looking a world beater for 5 games and then looking like a donkey for 5 games. Confidence is the key. I could easily see him getting a boost from moving and scoring 10 goals between now and May. He just doesn't have a future here. mark.s
  • Score: 6

1:48pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Steve. Brentford says...

castle9 wrote:
Happy to sit on a fat contract, so not he's the sort of player that we require. Hope it works out for him, but surely its better to be playing...
Castle you are normally a fair man,so why not wait and see, for what it`s worth i think money will be the stumbling block but it may not be and Wes could become a Town player in the next week or so good old time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: Happy to sit on a fat contract, so not he's the sort of player that we require. Hope it works out for him, but surely its better to be playing...[/p][/quote]Castle you are normally a fair man,so why not wait and see, for what it`s worth i think money will be the stumbling block but it may not be and Wes could become a Town player in the next week or so good old time will tell. Steve. Brentford
  • Score: 1

2:08pm Fri 3 Jan 14

hertz says...

Well our management see somethng in Wes and believe he can play our football so thats good enough . Wes get of the bench and make a name for yourself at he Mighty STFC , you know it makes sense , just look how long it has taken for the youngsters currently playng here to get in the shop window . No doubt Matt has told you what a great club we are COYR
Well our management see somethng in Wes and believe he can play our football so thats good enough . Wes get of the bench and make a name for yourself at he Mighty STFC , you know it makes sense , just look how long it has taken for the youngsters currently playng here to get in the shop window . No doubt Matt has told you what a great club we are COYR hertz
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2:17pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Fernham Red says...

Connor Jennings returned early from his loan spell (due to end in January) with Macclesfield owing to injury some 3 weeks ago. No mention of the type of injury but he's not yet in the squad for the Iron on match days. 16 goals in 18 games in a mid-table team is no mean feat and we've witnessed his talent first hand. Clearly he's not afraid of dropping a few leagues to get playing time and our ethos (giving young talent a chance) together with our passing style should suit him. He would be on my 'list of four' without a shadow of a doubt and probably at the top.
Connor Jennings returned early from his loan spell (due to end in January) with Macclesfield owing to injury some 3 weeks ago. No mention of the type of injury but he's not yet in the squad for the Iron on match days. 16 goals in 18 games in a mid-table team is no mean feat and we've witnessed his talent first hand. Clearly he's not afraid of dropping a few leagues to get playing time and our ethos (giving young talent a chance) together with our passing style should suit him. He would be on my 'list of four' without a shadow of a doubt and probably at the top. Fernham Red
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Fri 3 Jan 14

LeGod says...

Mark s - dont come on here if you dont like the comments by the way i was a few quid out on his transfer fee so what it was off the top of my head.
Malmö FF confirmed on 28 August 2013 that they had sold Rantie to English club Bournemouth.The transfer fee was was thought to be a club record fee, of £2.25 million, for Bournemouth. He made his debut on 17 September at home to Barnsley when he came on as a sub. He made his first start for the club in a 3–3 draw away to Middlesbrough. Rantie scored his first goal for the club on the 9th November 2013 against Burnley at Turf Moor.

If you want to be picky he's scored a goal as well and i said he hadnt well good business for 2.25 million.
I've got no interest in your club Mark s but i wasnt far off the mark. As for you lot who were slating Ritchie when we played you last season and stating what you had was better - well how wrong you lot were he is your outstanding player by such a big margin you dont know a good player when you see one and is probably if not your highest or second highest scorer after 6 games.
Mark s - dont come on here if you dont like the comments by the way i was a few quid out on his transfer fee so what it was off the top of my head. Malmö FF confirmed on 28 August 2013 that they had sold Rantie to English club Bournemouth.The transfer fee was was thought to be a club record fee, of £2.25 million, for Bournemouth. He made his debut on 17 September at home to Barnsley when he came on as a sub. He made his first start for the club in a 3–3 draw away to Middlesbrough. Rantie scored his first goal for the club on the 9th November 2013 against Burnley at Turf Moor. If you want to be picky he's scored a goal as well and i said he hadnt well good business for 2.25 million. I've got no interest in your club Mark s but i wasnt far off the mark. As for you lot who were slating Ritchie when we played you last season and stating what you had was better - well how wrong you lot were he is your outstanding player by such a big margin you dont know a good player when you see one and is probably if not your highest or second highest scorer after 6 games. LeGod
  • Score: 0

2:28pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
In other words he wants loads of dosh!
It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else.

We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.
Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In other words he wants loads of dosh![/p][/quote]It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else. We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.[/p][/quote]Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%. Since 1950
  • Score: 0

2:42pm Fri 3 Jan 14

mark.s says...

No need to get wound up and rant LeGod, I'm out of breath just reading that let alone you typing it. I'm here to give my honest opinion on a player I've watched for a few years, who you may well be signing. And stating that he could do a good job for you.

To quickly answer some other points you raise.

Rantie will cost the amount you state if he hits the various clauses in his deal. An initial cost of around 1.8M spread over the years of the contract is the deal as it stands. Should he go on to be a success (and I hope he does) then it will rise to the full amount. Personally I think it's a stupid amount for us to spend on one player, no matter how good, but there's no doubting the kid's talent. And it was that potential we bought into, you can't buy proven goalscorers at the level we're at for a couple million, sadly.

As for Ritchie, he's doing well at this level, although he has areas he can improve on. Unfortunate that he was injured to start the season, he's certainly one of our better players. I can't answer for every single AFCB fan, like any other group of people opinions will differ. Personally thought little of Ritchie when I saw him at Pompey and Dagenham, but it's clear he's grown into a very different player since those days. We're delighted to have him, and hope he can continue his form.

I wish no ill on Swindon, it's interesting how our two clubs have been somewhat intertwined recently. Indeed your thumping of us last season was instrumental in us bringing Eddie Howe back to rescue our season. So I wish you well.
No need to get wound up and rant LeGod, I'm out of breath just reading that let alone you typing it. I'm here to give my honest opinion on a player I've watched for a few years, who you may well be signing. And stating that he could do a good job for you. To quickly answer some other points you raise. Rantie will cost the amount you state if he hits the various clauses in his deal. An initial cost of around 1.8M spread over the years of the contract is the deal as it stands. Should he go on to be a success (and I hope he does) then it will rise to the full amount. Personally I think it's a stupid amount for us to spend on one player, no matter how good, but there's no doubting the kid's talent. And it was that potential we bought into, you can't buy proven goalscorers at the level we're at for a couple million, sadly. As for Ritchie, he's doing well at this level, although he has areas he can improve on. Unfortunate that he was injured to start the season, he's certainly one of our better players. I can't answer for every single AFCB fan, like any other group of people opinions will differ. Personally thought little of Ritchie when I saw him at Pompey and Dagenham, but it's clear he's grown into a very different player since those days. We're delighted to have him, and hope he can continue his form. I wish no ill on Swindon, it's interesting how our two clubs have been somewhat intertwined recently. Indeed your thumping of us last season was instrumental in us bringing Eddie Howe back to rescue our season. So I wish you well. mark.s
  • Score: 20

2:57pm Fri 3 Jan 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

I dont rate the player and don't see why we are chasing him, we have the best forward in the league and instead we are looking at replacing him with someone who doesn't even play regular football.
I dont rate the player and don't see why we are chasing him, we have the best forward in the league and instead we are looking at replacing him with someone who doesn't even play regular football. you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: -7

2:58pm Fri 3 Jan 14

you gots ta be kidding me says...

Howe can keep Thomas at Brnmouth they are both big heads who are over rated
Howe can keep Thomas at Brnmouth they are both big heads who are over rated you gots ta be kidding me
  • Score: -3

3:28pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Since 1950 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
In other words he wants loads of dosh!
It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else.

We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.
Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.
1950, I think the reality is that they're all mercenaries these days. I've no idea how good Thomas would be for us but I do know that Sam Morshead has been suggesting for a few days that the player's not keen on joining us. That could be because of money or it could be that he doesn't see us as a club likely to achieve success in the near future - or a mixture of both. I would think these factors loom large in every player's thinking. Fair enough I'd say.

Is his career really faltering? I don't know much about it but I just assumed his club had been promoted above his level of ability. If that's true he will have other options at this level - some of them possibly more attractive than us.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In other words he wants loads of dosh![/p][/quote]It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else. We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.[/p][/quote]Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.[/p][/quote]1950, I think the reality is that they're all mercenaries these days. I've no idea how good Thomas would be for us but I do know that Sam Morshead has been suggesting for a few days that the player's not keen on joining us. That could be because of money or it could be that he doesn't see us as a club likely to achieve success in the near future - or a mixture of both. I would think these factors loom large in every player's thinking. Fair enough I'd say. Is his career really faltering? I don't know much about it but I just assumed his club had been promoted above his level of ability. If that's true he will have other options at this level - some of them possibly more attractive than us. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

3:38pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
In other words he wants loads of dosh!
It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else.

We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.
Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.
1950, I think the reality is that they're all mercenaries these days. I've no idea how good Thomas would be for us but I do know that Sam Morshead has been suggesting for a few days that the player's not keen on joining us. That could be because of money or it could be that he doesn't see us as a club likely to achieve success in the near future - or a mixture of both. I would think these factors loom large in every player's thinking. Fair enough I'd say.

Is his career really faltering? I don't know much about it but I just assumed his club had been promoted above his level of ability. If that's true he will have other options at this level - some of them possibly more attractive than us.
Faltering in as much as I don't believe he getting much first team action at B'muff. What his abilities are I don't know the player that well, but they don't seem to be queuing up for his services. Maybe he's happy warming the bench and picking up his pay cheque at B'muff. Just seems to me he'd be happy doing the same here - so long as we pay him enough. Just saying.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In other words he wants loads of dosh![/p][/quote]It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else. We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.[/p][/quote]Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.[/p][/quote]1950, I think the reality is that they're all mercenaries these days. I've no idea how good Thomas would be for us but I do know that Sam Morshead has been suggesting for a few days that the player's not keen on joining us. That could be because of money or it could be that he doesn't see us as a club likely to achieve success in the near future - or a mixture of both. I would think these factors loom large in every player's thinking. Fair enough I'd say. Is his career really faltering? I don't know much about it but I just assumed his club had been promoted above his level of ability. If that's true he will have other options at this level - some of them possibly more attractive than us.[/p][/quote]Faltering in as much as I don't believe he getting much first team action at B'muff. What his abilities are I don't know the player that well, but they don't seem to be queuing up for his services. Maybe he's happy warming the bench and picking up his pay cheque at B'muff. Just seems to me he'd be happy doing the same here - so long as we pay him enough. Just saying. Since 1950
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3:43pm Fri 3 Jan 14

TEWKESBURYONTOUR says...

"Town submitted a bid for the striker, believed to be in the region of £100,000, a week "

quoted from above - flipping 'eck ,,,,,,,,,
"Town submitted a bid for the striker, believed to be in the region of £100,000, a week " quoted from above - flipping 'eck ,,,,,,,,, TEWKESBURYONTOUR
  • Score: -3

5:02pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bearwoodred says...

nlorenzo wrote:
Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.
the Muff are trying to buy Camp from WBA so I doubt they want Wes now - Camp has been on loan to them for a while but is now a free to move.
[quote][p][bold]nlorenzo[/bold] wrote: Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.[/p][/quote]the Muff are trying to buy Camp from WBA so I doubt they want Wes now - Camp has been on loan to them for a while but is now a free to move. bearwoodred
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bearwoodred says...

nlorenzo wrote:
Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.
the Muff are trying to buy Camp from WBA so I doubt they want Wes now - Camp has been on loan to them for a while but is now a free to move.
[quote][p][bold]nlorenzo[/bold] wrote: Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.[/p][/quote]the Muff are trying to buy Camp from WBA so I doubt they want Wes now - Camp has been on loan to them for a while but is now a free to move. bearwoodred
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Fri 3 Jan 14

melnursesear. says...

A Wes for a Wes..? looks like the Muff boy thinks he,s too good for us...Hmmm..!
A Wes for a Wes..? looks like the Muff boy thinks he,s too good for us...Hmmm..! melnursesear.
  • Score: -1

6:02pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Swindonian63 says...

mark.s wrote:
No need to get wound up and rant LeGod, I'm out of breath just reading that let alone you typing it. I'm here to give my honest opinion on a player I've watched for a few years, who you may well be signing. And stating that he could do a good job for you.

To quickly answer some other points you raise.

Rantie will cost the amount you state if he hits the various clauses in his deal. An initial cost of around 1.8M spread over the years of the contract is the deal as it stands. Should he go on to be a success (and I hope he does) then it will rise to the full amount. Personally I think it's a stupid amount for us to spend on one player, no matter how good, but there's no doubting the kid's talent. And it was that potential we bought into, you can't buy proven goalscorers at the level we're at for a couple million, sadly.

As for Ritchie, he's doing well at this level, although he has areas he can improve on. Unfortunate that he was injured to start the season, he's certainly one of our better players. I can't answer for every single AFCB fan, like any other group of people opinions will differ. Personally thought little of Ritchie when I saw him at Pompey and Dagenham, but it's clear he's grown into a very different player since those days. We're delighted to have him, and hope he can continue his form.

I wish no ill on Swindon, it's interesting how our two clubs have been somewhat intertwined recently. Indeed your thumping of us last season was instrumental in us bringing Eddie Howe back to rescue our season. So I wish you well.
Thank you for your constructive contribution which I find measured and informative.
[quote][p][bold]mark.s[/bold] wrote: No need to get wound up and rant LeGod, I'm out of breath just reading that let alone you typing it. I'm here to give my honest opinion on a player I've watched for a few years, who you may well be signing. And stating that he could do a good job for you. To quickly answer some other points you raise. Rantie will cost the amount you state if he hits the various clauses in his deal. An initial cost of around 1.8M spread over the years of the contract is the deal as it stands. Should he go on to be a success (and I hope he does) then it will rise to the full amount. Personally I think it's a stupid amount for us to spend on one player, no matter how good, but there's no doubting the kid's talent. And it was that potential we bought into, you can't buy proven goalscorers at the level we're at for a couple million, sadly. As for Ritchie, he's doing well at this level, although he has areas he can improve on. Unfortunate that he was injured to start the season, he's certainly one of our better players. I can't answer for every single AFCB fan, like any other group of people opinions will differ. Personally thought little of Ritchie when I saw him at Pompey and Dagenham, but it's clear he's grown into a very different player since those days. We're delighted to have him, and hope he can continue his form. I wish no ill on Swindon, it's interesting how our two clubs have been somewhat intertwined recently. Indeed your thumping of us last season was instrumental in us bringing Eddie Howe back to rescue our season. So I wish you well.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your constructive contribution which I find measured and informative. Swindonian63
  • Score: 13

6:47pm Fri 3 Jan 14

candlestrobe says...

LeGod wrote:
Mark s - dont come on here if you dont like the comments by the way i was a few quid out on his transfer fee so what it was off the top of my head.
Malmö FF confirmed on 28 August 2013 that they had sold Rantie to English club Bournemouth.The transfer fee was was thought to be a club record fee, of £2.25 million, for Bournemouth. He made his debut on 17 September at home to Barnsley when he came on as a sub. He made his first start for the club in a 3–3 draw away to Middlesbrough. Rantie scored his first goal for the club on the 9th November 2013 against Burnley at Turf Moor.

If you want to be picky he's scored a goal as well and i said he hadnt well good business for 2.25 million.
I've got no interest in your club Mark s but i wasnt far off the mark. As for you lot who were slating Ritchie when we played you last season and stating what you had was better - well how wrong you lot were he is your outstanding player by such a big margin you dont know a good player when you see one and is probably if not your highest or second highest scorer after 6 games.
Embarressing. Bloke comes here in friendship and someone can't resist acting like an ignorant oaf. That'll be good for Swindon's reputation won't it?
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Mark s - dont come on here if you dont like the comments by the way i was a few quid out on his transfer fee so what it was off the top of my head. Malmö FF confirmed on 28 August 2013 that they had sold Rantie to English club Bournemouth.The transfer fee was was thought to be a club record fee, of £2.25 million, for Bournemouth. He made his debut on 17 September at home to Barnsley when he came on as a sub. He made his first start for the club in a 3–3 draw away to Middlesbrough. Rantie scored his first goal for the club on the 9th November 2013 against Burnley at Turf Moor. If you want to be picky he's scored a goal as well and i said he hadnt well good business for 2.25 million. I've got no interest in your club Mark s but i wasnt far off the mark. As for you lot who were slating Ritchie when we played you last season and stating what you had was better - well how wrong you lot were he is your outstanding player by such a big margin you dont know a good player when you see one and is probably if not your highest or second highest scorer after 6 games.[/p][/quote]Embarressing. Bloke comes here in friendship and someone can't resist acting like an ignorant oaf. That'll be good for Swindon's reputation won't it? candlestrobe
  • Score: 18

7:10pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Dover Red says...

Le Gob always has to have a go, cant seem to see other people may have something to contribute, good stuff from the Muff fan, cheers
Le Gob always has to have a go, cant seem to see other people may have something to contribute, good stuff from the Muff fan, cheers Dover Red
  • Score: 16

7:12pm Fri 3 Jan 14

coppersmith says...

We only want a player or players who want to play for Swindon town fc we as supporters also want promotion to the championship but I fear that we will still not achieve sufficient attendance to merit playing in the 2nd tier of football we must get real and enjoy any level which we find ourselves playing at .After supporting the town for 60years we have to get used to the ups and downs of football in the lower tiers but we still dream of reaching the top and to that end we must develop our own football players remember Bert Heads babes , it seems as if most players are mercenaries in today's football we can still dream
We only want a player or players who want to play for Swindon town fc we as supporters also want promotion to the championship but I fear that we will still not achieve sufficient attendance to merit playing in the 2nd tier of football we must get real and enjoy any level which we find ourselves playing at .After supporting the town for 60years we have to get used to the ups and downs of football in the lower tiers but we still dream of reaching the top and to that end we must develop our own football players remember Bert Heads babes , it seems as if most players are mercenaries in today's football we can still dream coppersmith
  • Score: 6

8:36pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

Simple issue for Wes Thomas take a pay cut and play football or sit on the bench and collect the dosh I know which one I'd be doing ha ha BUT I am 58 and blooming feel it. Got to go now as my new years resolution was to try and do one press up a week and have even encouraged the wife to get underneath but she declined.
Simple issue for Wes Thomas take a pay cut and play football or sit on the bench and collect the dosh I know which one I'd be doing ha ha BUT I am 58 and blooming feel it. Got to go now as my new years resolution was to try and do one press up a week and have even encouraged the wife to get underneath but she declined. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 3

10:30pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

Sam tweeting that Thomas seems destined for Yeovil great news as that may well release Paddy Madden to STFC and to be honest I would rather have PM who is very much like Ajose and never stops running. Thomas on the other hand only plays when he feels like it.
Sam tweeting that Thomas seems destined for Yeovil great news as that may well release Paddy Madden to STFC and to be honest I would rather have PM who is very much like Ajose and never stops running. Thomas on the other hand only plays when he feels like it. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Since 1950 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
In other words he wants loads of dosh!
It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else.

We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.
Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.
1950, I think the reality is that they're all mercenaries these days. I've no idea how good Thomas would be for us but I do know that Sam Morshead has been suggesting for a few days that the player's not keen on joining us. That could be because of money or it could be that he doesn't see us as a club likely to achieve success in the near future - or a mixture of both. I would think these factors loom large in every player's thinking. Fair enough I'd say.

Is his career really faltering? I don't know much about it but I just assumed his club had been promoted above his level of ability. If that's true he will have other options at this level - some of them possibly more attractive than us.
Faltering in as much as I don't believe he getting much first team action at B'muff. What his abilities are I don't know the player that well, but they don't seem to be queuing up for his services. Maybe he's happy warming the bench and picking up his pay cheque at B'muff. Just seems to me he'd be happy doing the same here - so long as we pay him enough. Just saying.
Fair enough 1950. It just seems that we have very little information so I'm not going to judge Thomas. STFC is special to us but it's just another 3rd tier football club for him. I'm not sure it's such a bad thing for a player to be well paid and be a frequent sub in the Championship if his true level is lower than that.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In other words he wants loads of dosh![/p][/quote]It's a free market 1950. I'm sure he'll end up being paid what he's worth in today's market, whether it's by us or someone else. We have to face the fact that we have very little financial clout nowadays, so it will be no surprise if we struggle to land good quality players.[/p][/quote]Den. You are of course correct, it is a free market. I think the point I was trying to make is that he'll probably come here If we pay him what he wants and not because he wants to come here to revive his faltering career by getting regular football. I'm not sure we want mercenaries at the club. A luxury we cannot afford. I'm not sure he worth big money, even if we had it. He's not exactly a prolific scorer and begs the question if he'd actually give us 100%.[/p][/quote]1950, I think the reality is that they're all mercenaries these days. I've no idea how good Thomas would be for us but I do know that Sam Morshead has been suggesting for a few days that the player's not keen on joining us. That could be because of money or it could be that he doesn't see us as a club likely to achieve success in the near future - or a mixture of both. I would think these factors loom large in every player's thinking. Fair enough I'd say. Is his career really faltering? I don't know much about it but I just assumed his club had been promoted above his level of ability. If that's true he will have other options at this level - some of them possibly more attractive than us.[/p][/quote]Faltering in as much as I don't believe he getting much first team action at B'muff. What his abilities are I don't know the player that well, but they don't seem to be queuing up for his services. Maybe he's happy warming the bench and picking up his pay cheque at B'muff. Just seems to me he'd be happy doing the same here - so long as we pay him enough. Just saying.[/p][/quote]Fair enough 1950. It just seems that we have very little information so I'm not going to judge Thomas. STFC is special to us but it's just another 3rd tier football club for him. I'm not sure it's such a bad thing for a player to be well paid and be a frequent sub in the Championship if his true level is lower than that. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

6:40pm Sat 4 Jan 14

alchafreds says...

mark.s wrote:
LeGod wrote:
nlorenzo - i agree Howe is using it as bait for one of our players i'd tell him where to go and move on from Thomas. Its ok Muff fans saying Thomas is ia good player if so why didnt he play for them last season. And paying 2.5 million for Rantie and he cant fit into their style of play is rubbish. They paid 2.5 million for a bench warmer and a big time charlie (Thomas) sat along side him.
If you can't get the transfer fee right, don't comment on the player you obviously know little about.

Thomas can be decent, if his head is in the right place. Put an arm around him and make him first choice, give him the confidence and he's capable of winning games on his own. He can be frustrating though, looking a world beater for 5 games and then looking like a donkey for 5 games. Confidence is the key.

I could easily see him getting a boost from moving and scoring 10 goals between now and May. He just doesn't have a future here.
nor do you p1ss off
[quote][p][bold]mark.s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: nlorenzo - i agree Howe is using it as bait for one of our players i'd tell him where to go and move on from Thomas. Its ok Muff fans saying Thomas is ia good player if so why didnt he play for them last season. And paying 2.5 million for Rantie and he cant fit into their style of play is rubbish. They paid 2.5 million for a bench warmer and a big time charlie (Thomas) sat along side him.[/p][/quote]If you can't get the transfer fee right, don't comment on the player you obviously know little about. Thomas can be decent, if his head is in the right place. Put an arm around him and make him first choice, give him the confidence and he's capable of winning games on his own. He can be frustrating though, looking a world beater for 5 games and then looking like a donkey for 5 games. Confidence is the key. I could easily see him getting a boost from moving and scoring 10 goals between now and May. He just doesn't have a future here.[/p][/quote]nor do you p1ss off alchafreds
  • Score: -2

5:49pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Swindonian63 says...

bearwoodred wrote:
nlorenzo wrote:
Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.
the Muff are trying to buy Camp from WBA so I doubt they want Wes now - Camp has been on loan to them for a while but is now a free to move.
Camp has/signed a two and a half year contract with Muff.
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nlorenzo[/bold] wrote: Stop trying to be clever Howe, we can see right through you! All this posturing is to get Wes Foderingham in the deal and rip us off like you did with Matt Richie.[/p][/quote]the Muff are trying to buy Camp from WBA so I doubt they want Wes now - Camp has been on loan to them for a while but is now a free to move.[/p][/quote]Camp has/signed a two and a half year contract with Muff. Swindonian63
  • Score: 0

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