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Mark Cooper focuses on quality targets rather than listening to agents bearing gifts

Swindon Advertiser: Town boss Mark Cooper Town boss Mark Cooper

SWINDON Town do not plan to run the rule over any trialists as the League One season draws to a close, with a firm list of targets already identified ahead of the summer transfer window.

Manager Mark Cooper told the Advertiser that the club have received plenty of contact from agents offering them a variety of players in all positions but each and every one of those approaches have been spurned.

Last season Town were inundated with young players looking to prove their worth to the Robins in trial matches but, 12 months on, Cooper and Swindon owner Lee Power do not see the need.

When asked by the Adver whether he’d been offered trialists in recent weeks, Cooper said: “Yes, loads. At the moment we’re not looking at them.

“You take down the name, record the name and you can always go back to them.

“I think we’re in a position where we don’t need to add loads and loads and our targets will be people we’ve identified rather than trialists.

“Agents will ring all the time saying ‘can you look at so and so’ or ‘what are you looking for next year?’ “If they’ve got a certain player that they think can help us then they’ll recommend them.

“Certain clubs are now releasing players or letting players know they’re not getting anything and will email to say ‘so and so is available’.”

Meanwhile, Cooper confirmed that Grant Hall should be in contention for selection when Brentford visit the County Ground on Saturday, provided the centre-back emerges from his run-out in a development XI fixture okay.

Hall was part of the Town side that faced Bristol Rovers in a friendly yesterday and, after almost two months out with a calf injury, looks set to feature in the Swindon matchday squad this weekend.

Cooper, speaking yesterday, said: “I think after today, if he gets through today, then he will be available for selection and then we have to decide whether we change the three at the back, who have played particularly well.

“It’s no good having 45 players or whatever you have in a squad and knowing that 20 of them can’t really help you.

“You’re better off having a smaller squad, knowing all of them can play.”

Jamie Reckord scored the only goal of the game as Town beat Rovers 1-0.

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7:21am Wed 9 Apr 14

Graham8181 says...

Really hope hall goes back at the end of the season
Really hope hall goes back at the end of the season Graham8181
  • Score: -13

7:54am Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

Totally agree with Cooper here
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Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch!
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In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path
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I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here
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The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that!
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I would keep:
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GK: Foderingham and Belford
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Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach
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Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin
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For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker
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The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH.
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Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO
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Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better!
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Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan
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We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks! London Red
  • Score: 15

7:56am Wed 9 Apr 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: -31

8:06am Wed 9 Apr 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

London Red wrote:
Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !!

I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds.

I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn.

I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us. Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: -9

8:18am Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote:
Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !!

I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds.

I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn.

I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.
I believe out of that list it is only TAH who is in a position to reject a new offer
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Harley signed on for more than one season and will be I the new wage structure - if he wants to play he has to earn it - I'm sure he would admit he has not met his own standards this season - maybe a decent pre season will clear up niggles and allow him to return to those standards?
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Ranger A.Smith and Barthram all have options so it's up to the club not them if they are extended
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All others are under contract
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TAH is in a rehabilitation process and his knee will get stronger - even if he can only play Sat that still gives him 40 odd games - which is worth keeping him as he has been our rock. With a consistent pair alongside him like Stephens and Hall we should be OK for the odd mid week game where he drops out - if say Ward came in
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Just my opinion
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.[/p][/quote]I believe out of that list it is only TAH who is in a position to reject a new offer . Harley signed on for more than one season and will be I the new wage structure - if he wants to play he has to earn it - I'm sure he would admit he has not met his own standards this season - maybe a decent pre season will clear up niggles and allow him to return to those standards? . Ranger A.Smith and Barthram all have options so it's up to the club not them if they are extended . All others are under contract . TAH is in a rehabilitation process and his knee will get stronger - even if he can only play Sat that still gives him 40 odd games - which is worth keeping him as he has been our rock. With a consistent pair alongside him like Stephens and Hall we should be OK for the odd mid week game where he drops out - if say Ward came in . Just my opinion London Red
  • Score: 11

8:37am Wed 9 Apr 14

Moonraker1983 says...

Wouldn't count on Foderingham being here next season, I'm sure he said he wanted to play Championship next season. I can't remember if he said with or without Town.

No-one can begrudge him if he left, he's far better than League One standard and he gave Swindon two seasons to get up. We'd receive a hefty packet for him, but a fair chunk of that will have to go to Palace I expect. Belford will be a good replacement meaning we can replace Ranger (who is surely going to go, Championship at minimum - I would have said Norwich but unlikely now Houghton has gone) with someone who might cost a bit (League 2 top scorer or something).

The team framework is in place, we just need the bells and whistles to push us into contention for the title. Keep promoting youth, use the loan market, but most importantly balance the books.
Wouldn't count on Foderingham being here next season, I'm sure he said he wanted to play Championship next season. I can't remember if he said with or without Town. No-one can begrudge him if he left, he's far better than League One standard and he gave Swindon two seasons to get up. We'd receive a hefty packet for him, but a fair chunk of that will have to go to Palace I expect. Belford will be a good replacement meaning we can replace Ranger (who is surely going to go, Championship at minimum - I would have said Norwich but unlikely now Houghton has gone) with someone who might cost a bit (League 2 top scorer or something). The team framework is in place, we just need the bells and whistles to push us into contention for the title. Keep promoting youth, use the loan market, but most importantly balance the books. Moonraker1983
  • Score: 3

9:01am Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.
Sorry Oakley too could reject a deal as only got a 1 year pro deal
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Leigh Bedwell, Jay McEveley, Raphael Rossi Branco, Lee Cox, Alan Navarro, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Harry Agombar, Paul Benson, Andy Williams, Dany N’Guessan, Conner Waldon and Kayden Jackson are the others out of contract and who I would let go
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Though Jackson if dirt cheap might be worth a punt as he did seem to score a fair few while out on loan - granted that was 3 or 4 divisions below - but might be worth a look
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.[/p][/quote]Sorry Oakley too could reject a deal as only got a 1 year pro deal . Leigh Bedwell, Jay McEveley, Raphael Rossi Branco, Lee Cox, Alan Navarro, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Harry Agombar, Paul Benson, Andy Williams, Dany N’Guessan, Conner Waldon and Kayden Jackson are the others out of contract and who I would let go . Though Jackson if dirt cheap might be worth a punt as he did seem to score a fair few while out on loan - granted that was 3 or 4 divisions below - but might be worth a look London Red
  • Score: 1

9:09am Wed 9 Apr 14

House with no name says...

At long last there seems to be acceptance that promotion is totally unobtainable something which most of us realised months ago.

Great idea having a small squad that will really save money and pave the way for more lame excuses of poor performances when the inevitable winter injuries occur.
At long last there seems to be acceptance that promotion is totally unobtainable something which most of us realised months ago. Great idea having a small squad that will really save money and pave the way for more lame excuses of poor performances when the inevitable winter injuries occur. House with no name
  • Score: -22

9:20am Wed 9 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on??????? the don69
  • Score: 27

9:47am Wed 9 Apr 14

Swindonian63 says...

Quite right...and so was Ardiles!
Quite right...and so was Ardiles! Swindonian63
  • Score: 9

12:43pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Scouse Red says...

London Red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.
Sorry Oakley too could reject a deal as only got a 1 year pro deal
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Leigh Bedwell, Jay McEveley, Raphael Rossi Branco, Lee Cox, Alan Navarro, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Harry Agombar, Paul Benson, Andy Williams, Dany N’Guessan, Conner Waldon and Kayden Jackson are the others out of contract and who I would let go
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Though Jackson if dirt cheap might be worth a punt as he did seem to score a fair few while out on loan - granted that was 3 or 4 divisions below - but might be worth a look
Thought Branco has done well when he's played to be fair to him!
Agombar - has he actually played a match this year??
Lee Cox by all accounts has played well last few games but we do have a lot of quality in the middle

I agree that we need to get some quality wide men, tricky wingers to can score as undoubtedly Pritch will be a miss next season and we need another like him on the left, never mind 2 of them!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.[/p][/quote]Sorry Oakley too could reject a deal as only got a 1 year pro deal . Leigh Bedwell, Jay McEveley, Raphael Rossi Branco, Lee Cox, Alan Navarro, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Harry Agombar, Paul Benson, Andy Williams, Dany N’Guessan, Conner Waldon and Kayden Jackson are the others out of contract and who I would let go . Though Jackson if dirt cheap might be worth a punt as he did seem to score a fair few while out on loan - granted that was 3 or 4 divisions below - but might be worth a look[/p][/quote]Thought Branco has done well when he's played to be fair to him! Agombar - has he actually played a match this year?? Lee Cox by all accounts has played well last few games but we do have a lot of quality in the middle I agree that we need to get some quality wide men, tricky wingers to can score as undoubtedly Pritch will be a miss next season and we need another like him on the left, never mind 2 of them! Scouse Red
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Wed 9 Apr 14

glenda hoddle says...

If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue. glenda hoddle
  • Score: -16

1:32pm Wed 9 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

London Red wrote:
Totally agree with Cooper here
.
Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch!
.
In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path
.
I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here
.
The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that!
.
I would keep:
.
GK: Foderingham and Belford
.
Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach
.
Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin
.
For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker
.
The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH.
.
Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO
.
Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better!
.
Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan
.
We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
You mention the lad gray at luton , who is scoring goals for fun in conference , and a name that has often cropped up in conversation , yes your right, he may well be an excellent sighning , and being young would also fit in with our model , as you say. But would luton be prepared to let him go at this point being as their on the verge of regaining league status , and also considering, that if he continues to score goals at a higher level then his valuation will spiral .
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]You mention the lad gray at luton , who is scoring goals for fun in conference , and a name that has often cropped up in conversation , yes your right, he may well be an excellent sighning , and being young would also fit in with our model , as you say. But would luton be prepared to let him go at this point being as their on the verge of regaining league status , and also considering, that if he continues to score goals at a higher level then his valuation will spiral . lifelong red
  • Score: 2

1:52pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip.....

However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them....

Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus
Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4.
Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way.
Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives .... Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: -6

2:59pm Wed 9 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip.....

However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them....

Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus
Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4.
Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way.
Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....[/p][/quote]Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement. lifelong red
  • Score: 10

4:11pm Wed 9 Apr 14

mike1990 says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Eighth in the league with frees and loans not bad for a trialist,i expect you want him to win the league at a canter? get your head out of cloud cookoo land and back in the real world.thought you had more sense lovesey.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Eighth in the league with frees and loans not bad for a trialist,i expect you want him to win the league at a canter? get your head out of cloud cookoo land and back in the real world.thought you had more sense lovesey. mike1990
  • Score: 13

5:32pm Wed 9 Apr 14

jayden says...

I have watched Jackson ,he has pace but no way ready for league1. Also have seen gray a few times this season on TV got to say did not think much of him .
I have watched Jackson ,he has pace but no way ready for league1. Also have seen gray a few times this season on TV got to say did not think much of him . jayden
  • Score: 0

5:37pm Wed 9 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

glenda hoddle wrote:
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on...

BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down.
Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge
[quote][p][bold]glenda hoddle[/bold] wrote: If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.[/p][/quote]EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on... BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down. Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge dazzastfc
  • Score: -3

6:21pm Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

Scouse Red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.
Sorry Oakley too could reject a deal as only got a 1 year pro deal
.
Leigh Bedwell, Jay McEveley, Raphael Rossi Branco, Lee Cox, Alan Navarro, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Harry Agombar, Paul Benson, Andy Williams, Dany N’Guessan, Conner Waldon and Kayden Jackson are the others out of contract and who I would let go
.
Though Jackson if dirt cheap might be worth a punt as he did seem to score a fair few while out on loan - granted that was 3 or 4 divisions below - but might be worth a look
Thought Branco has done well when he's played to be fair to him!
Agombar - has he actually played a match this year??
Lee Cox by all accounts has played well last few games but we do have a lot of quality in the middle

I agree that we need to get some quality wide men, tricky wingers to can score as undoubtedly Pritch will be a miss next season and we need another like him on the left, never mind 2 of them!
I was very impressed with Branco in his full debut against Posh - but since then he has been very much so so - and the JPT away has to go down as bad as anything Hall has produced where he was at fault for both goals!
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I do accept you could easily argue a case for him over Hall who to has had impressive games (QPR and Plymouth for example) but too has had many so so games and some costly errors
.
However - I don't believe all this Hall must play cr@p - as why him but not the others who are rated "higher" at Spurs? They clearly don't have to start - thus the 6 games Mason came on from the bench and 3 Pritchard has! We could also see first hand on Sat if Hall is not in the starting XI
.
I think he was picked because out of the 3 fit and available it was felt he was the best equipped to play - had TAH been fit - maybe he wouldn't have played so much? Or maybe Ward may not have?
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Anyway if we had the opportunity to have either I personally think Hall would be a better prospect
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Also lets not forget he was not an unseen forced signing but had worked with Williams at Brighton - so part of our coaching staff had see him first hand as they have Barker and M.Smith!
.
With POs now 100% gone and Relegation 100% gone - I wouldn't mind a bit more experimenting - and trying a defence of Wes Thimpson Stephens TAH Hall and Byrne would be good to see
.
Brentford would be a very good test for them - if they can do well against them they should be able to do well against anyone!
[quote][p][bold]Scouse Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]Good analysis LR, regardless of who we would keep, how many of them are out of contract and won't get the same wages, so why would they stay, I get the impression that Harley will be off as he thinks he should play every week !! I wouldn't keep TAH, he is a quality player but made of glass, IMO we can't carry players like that. I wouldn't keep Hall either awful player, I have seen quicker 2 year olds. I hope we keep Ranger, but only if committed for the same reason as Troy we can't carry people in a small squad, I would keep storey he gives us a different option but still has loads to learn. I can't see us hanging on to Wes but I don't think Belford is a bad young keeper and would do a good job for us.[/p][/quote]Sorry Oakley too could reject a deal as only got a 1 year pro deal . Leigh Bedwell, Jay McEveley, Raphael Rossi Branco, Lee Cox, Alan Navarro, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Harry Agombar, Paul Benson, Andy Williams, Dany N’Guessan, Conner Waldon and Kayden Jackson are the others out of contract and who I would let go . Though Jackson if dirt cheap might be worth a punt as he did seem to score a fair few while out on loan - granted that was 3 or 4 divisions below - but might be worth a look[/p][/quote]Thought Branco has done well when he's played to be fair to him! Agombar - has he actually played a match this year?? Lee Cox by all accounts has played well last few games but we do have a lot of quality in the middle I agree that we need to get some quality wide men, tricky wingers to can score as undoubtedly Pritch will be a miss next season and we need another like him on the left, never mind 2 of them![/p][/quote]I was very impressed with Branco in his full debut against Posh - but since then he has been very much so so - and the JPT away has to go down as bad as anything Hall has produced where he was at fault for both goals! . I do accept you could easily argue a case for him over Hall who to has had impressive games (QPR and Plymouth for example) but too has had many so so games and some costly errors . However - I don't believe all this Hall must play cr@p - as why him but not the others who are rated "higher" at Spurs? They clearly don't have to start - thus the 6 games Mason came on from the bench and 3 Pritchard has! We could also see first hand on Sat if Hall is not in the starting XI . I think he was picked because out of the 3 fit and available it was felt he was the best equipped to play - had TAH been fit - maybe he wouldn't have played so much? Or maybe Ward may not have? . Anyway if we had the opportunity to have either I personally think Hall would be a better prospect . Also lets not forget he was not an unseen forced signing but had worked with Williams at Brighton - so part of our coaching staff had see him first hand as they have Barker and M.Smith! . With POs now 100% gone and Relegation 100% gone - I wouldn't mind a bit more experimenting - and trying a defence of Wes Thimpson Stephens TAH Hall and Byrne would be good to see . Brentford would be a very good test for them - if they can do well against them they should be able to do well against anyone! London Red
  • Score: 3

6:27pm Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

lifelong red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip.....

However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them....

Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus
Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4.
Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way.
Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.
Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do!
.
The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending
.
Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc
.
Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers!
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Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh!
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As to what Cooper brings there is this article:
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http://www.thisisswi
ndontownfc.co.uk/new
s/headlines/11121415
.Stephens_credits_Co
oper_for_restoring_T
own___s_self_belief/
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....[/p][/quote]Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.[/p][/quote]Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/ London Red
  • Score: 0

6:50pm Wed 9 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

I would prefer Hall over Branco , mainly because in my view Hall has more class- ability than Branco . Its been a long hard season for Hall , trying to adjust to life in league 1 , but he was showing signs of improvement prior to his injury, I would not argue against him being here perm next season.
I would prefer Hall over Branco , mainly because in my view Hall has more class- ability than Branco . Its been a long hard season for Hall , trying to adjust to life in league 1 , but he was showing signs of improvement prior to his injury, I would not argue against him being here perm next season. lifelong red
  • Score: 4

6:54pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

London Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.
Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/
Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this....

Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough.
The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations.
The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home.
strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY???
The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened.
Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out...
The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more.

I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club......

But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless......

People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat.

I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin.

And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....[/p][/quote]Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.[/p][/quote]Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/[/p][/quote]Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this.... Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough. The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations. The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home. strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY??? The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened. Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out... The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more. I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club...... But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless...... People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat. I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin. And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him. Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 0

7:11pm Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.
Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/
Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this....

Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough.
The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations.
The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home.
strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY???
The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened.
Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out...
The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more.

I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club......

But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless......

People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat.

I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin.

And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.
Lovesey a lot of the loans have been due to players needing to get back match fit following an injury
.
Storey asked to go out and was saying how he was feeling much sharper because of it on his return
.
He hardly set the world on fire at Shrewsbury - yet got 2 in 2 for us -
So maybe we have benefitted from him getting his sharpness away from the CG
.
Had he played and been poor - Cooper would have been slated!
.
I'm shocked how many seem to say this is the worse season -
Can no one remember 2010/11?
.
A season under an experienced manager where we went on the longest winless run for how many decades?
.
That season was full of dire performances by dire "professionals" who finished below a relegated team with a 10 point deduction!
.
This season has been up and down as we are playing kids who will struggle at times
.
But at times have also delivered some fantastic performances and great games - Crewe at home PV home and Away, Wolves Away, QPR, Chelsea, Bristol Home etc etc
.
I've said before I'm very hmmm on Cooper
.
I have not been impressed by some of his tactical decisions, passing the buck etc like you have pointed out
.
However, I do appreciate it has been a hard season - with the total rebuild, legacy restrictions, KMac walking out only a week or so before the big KO etc
.
So should Power decide he is deserving of another season - fair enough I will support him and judge him (and Power) on what is going to be more like a "proper" season
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....[/p][/quote]Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.[/p][/quote]Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/[/p][/quote]Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this.... Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough. The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations. The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home. strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY??? The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened. Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out... The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more. I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club...... But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless...... People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat. I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin. And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.[/p][/quote]Lovesey a lot of the loans have been due to players needing to get back match fit following an injury . Storey asked to go out and was saying how he was feeling much sharper because of it on his return . He hardly set the world on fire at Shrewsbury - yet got 2 in 2 for us - So maybe we have benefitted from him getting his sharpness away from the CG . Had he played and been poor - Cooper would have been slated! . I'm shocked how many seem to say this is the worse season - Can no one remember 2010/11? . A season under an experienced manager where we went on the longest winless run for how many decades? . That season was full of dire performances by dire "professionals" who finished below a relegated team with a 10 point deduction! . This season has been up and down as we are playing kids who will struggle at times . But at times have also delivered some fantastic performances and great games - Crewe at home PV home and Away, Wolves Away, QPR, Chelsea, Bristol Home etc etc . I've said before I'm very hmmm on Cooper . I have not been impressed by some of his tactical decisions, passing the buck etc like you have pointed out . However, I do appreciate it has been a hard season - with the total rebuild, legacy restrictions, KMac walking out only a week or so before the big KO etc . So should Power decide he is deserving of another season - fair enough I will support him and judge him (and Power) on what is going to be more like a "proper" season London Red
  • Score: 1

8:11pm Wed 9 Apr 14

alchafreds says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.
Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/
Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this....

Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough.
The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations.
The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home.
strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY???
The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened.
Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out...
The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more.

I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club......

But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless......

People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat.

I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin.

And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.
spot on right on all counts
thought about not renewing next season but not gonna cut me nose off to spite me face i am a swindon town supporter and will be here long after cooper i wont let him drive me away
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....[/p][/quote]Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.[/p][/quote]Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/[/p][/quote]Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this.... Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough. The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations. The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home. strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY??? The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened. Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out... The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more. I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club...... But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless...... People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat. I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin. And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.[/p][/quote]spot on right on all counts thought about not renewing next season but not gonna cut me nose off to spite me face i am a swindon town supporter and will be here long after cooper i wont let him drive me away alchafreds
  • Score: -2

9:08pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Red till Dead says...

dazzastfc wrote:
glenda hoddle wrote:
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on...

BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down.
Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge
Yea season tickets are down ain't they,we've only sold just over 4k which really ain't bad at all and this season ain't even over yet,poped into the ticket office earlier and the young lads kindly checked for me,I think we could well be in for an exciting season next with a few good additions and ranger on top form banging the goals in,looking forward to Saturdays game and a few pints with the old **** lol,coyr's
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glenda hoddle[/bold] wrote: If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.[/p][/quote]EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on... BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down. Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge[/p][/quote]Yea season tickets are down ain't they,we've only sold just over 4k which really ain't bad at all and this season ain't even over yet,poped into the ticket office earlier and the young lads kindly checked for me,I think we could well be in for an exciting season next with a few good additions and ranger on top form banging the goals in,looking forward to Saturdays game and a few pints with the old **** lol,coyr's Red till Dead
  • Score: 3

9:15pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Cookie43 says...

glenda hoddle wrote:
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
Could you explain gutless please?
How the hell is he gutless.
also why does he not have a clue?
i bet you were one of he fans who was convinced we would be relegated this season, well for a man who has not got a clue he has not done to bad has he just outside play offs and not threat of relegation.
please tell us why he is gutless?????
[quote][p][bold]glenda hoddle[/bold] wrote: If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.[/p][/quote]Could you explain gutless please? How the hell is he gutless. also why does he not have a clue? i bet you were one of he fans who was convinced we would be relegated this season, well for a man who has not got a clue he has not done to bad has he just outside play offs and not threat of relegation. please tell us why he is gutless????? Cookie43
  • Score: 3

9:43pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Red till Dead says...

lifelong red wrote:
I would prefer Hall over Branco , mainly because in my view Hall has more class- ability than Branco . Its been a long hard season for Hall , trying to adjust to life in league 1 , but he was showing signs of improvement prior to his injury, I would not argue against him being here perm next season.
Absolutely agree,I would have hall over Branco at this moment in time,he may of had a lot of shacky moments and made mistakes but I'm sure that will make him stronger as he would of learnt from them and there is no doubt that hall has alot of potential and I would feel more safe with him in our back line than Branco as he is very raw but with the right coaching and game experience Branco could well be a very promising defender next season or the one after.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: I would prefer Hall over Branco , mainly because in my view Hall has more class- ability than Branco . Its been a long hard season for Hall , trying to adjust to life in league 1 , but he was showing signs of improvement prior to his injury, I would not argue against him being here perm next season.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree,I would have hall over Branco at this moment in time,he may of had a lot of shacky moments and made mistakes but I'm sure that will make him stronger as he would of learnt from them and there is no doubt that hall has alot of potential and I would feel more safe with him in our back line than Branco as he is very raw but with the right coaching and game experience Branco could well be a very promising defender next season or the one after. Red till Dead
  • Score: 3

10:32pm Wed 9 Apr 14

London Red says...

lifelong red wrote:
London Red wrote:
Totally agree with Cooper here
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Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch!
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In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path
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I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here
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The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that!
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I would keep:
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GK: Foderingham and Belford
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Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach
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Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin
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For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker
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The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH.
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Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO
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Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better!
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Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan
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We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks!
You mention the lad gray at luton , who is scoring goals for fun in conference , and a name that has often cropped up in conversation , yes your right, he may well be an excellent sighning , and being young would also fit in with our model , as you say. But would luton be prepared to let him go at this point being as their on the verge of regaining league status , and also considering, that if he continues to score goals at a higher level then his valuation will spiral .
Guess it depends on money and their model
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If they sign young talent with the promise of moving on if the right offer comes in then maybe they would be willing to do a deal
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We have seen Power will splash the cash if it is felt it is the right player - Luongo, Byrne and Smith we know cost about £750k and Sam once tweeted he thought we paid a small fee for Barker
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He is more likey to get a move to the Championship or Premiership by doing it at L1 over L2 - so a move might be good for all if a big sell on is included - as Luton have the potential to get more that way than just a straight sale to a Championship club for the same fee we may pay
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with Cooper here . Last year was totally different - I know some have been very vocal in criticism of the squad build last summer - but don't think they appreciate the situation we were in - where we basically had to start from scratch! . In a way it was similar to PdC first season - but without the money - and as with PdC we saw year 2 take a completely different path . I personally think we only really need 3 perm signings topped up with a few loan players as we have the basis of a good squad here . The savings we need to make can be made by letting the legacy higher earners go and also releasing the excess players we have - what is it 35 or something like that! . I would keep: . GK: Foderingham and Belford . Def: Thompson Barthram Byrne Smith TAH Oakley and Ward as player coach - but mainly coach . Mid: Tijane Luongo Kasim Thompson Harley Gladwin . For: Ranger Smith Storey Baker . The. I would sign Hall on a perm. Think he is underrated by too many and been made an unfair victim Yes he made mistakes but so has everyone else - and not everyone else is in their first season as a pro! I our new system he might excel like he did play as the left of a 3 against Plymouth in the cup where he got MOTM (not his only one!). He could also do well under the stewardship of TAH. . Midfield I would love is to renew our interest in Diagouraga who is the right age and style we need to add experience and steel - would be a perfect foil for Thompson IMO . Up top is not urgent if Ranger here - but if we could lets make a statement by getting Gray from Luton - 25 goals shows he knows where the net is and fits our model as still young and can get better! . Then we should look to get Stephens back on a year long loan . We also need a few wide players as only have Tijane and Byrne - so maybe this could be a loanee too? Guess it depends if we are to play 4 in midfield or stick with wingbacks![/p][/quote]You mention the lad gray at luton , who is scoring goals for fun in conference , and a name that has often cropped up in conversation , yes your right, he may well be an excellent sighning , and being young would also fit in with our model , as you say. But would luton be prepared to let him go at this point being as their on the verge of regaining league status , and also considering, that if he continues to score goals at a higher level then his valuation will spiral .[/p][/quote]Guess it depends on money and their model . If they sign young talent with the promise of moving on if the right offer comes in then maybe they would be willing to do a deal . We have seen Power will splash the cash if it is felt it is the right player - Luongo, Byrne and Smith we know cost about £750k and Sam once tweeted he thought we paid a small fee for Barker . He is more likey to get a move to the Championship or Premiership by doing it at L1 over L2 - so a move might be good for all if a big sell on is included - as Luton have the potential to get more that way than just a straight sale to a Championship club for the same fee we may pay London Red
  • Score: -1

11:00pm Wed 9 Apr 14

stranglers says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Brilliant. stranglers
  • Score: 0

11:03pm Wed 9 Apr 14

stranglers says...

dazzastfc wrote:
glenda hoddle wrote:
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on...

BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down.
Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge
Sadly I think you are correct.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glenda hoddle[/bold] wrote: If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.[/p][/quote]EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on... BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down. Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge[/p][/quote]Sadly I think you are correct. stranglers
  • Score: 0

11:05pm Wed 9 Apr 14

stranglers says...

Moonraker1983 wrote:
Wouldn't count on Foderingham being here next season, I'm sure he said he wanted to play Championship next season. I can't remember if he said with or without Town.

No-one can begrudge him if he left, he's far better than League One standard and he gave Swindon two seasons to get up. We'd receive a hefty packet for him, but a fair chunk of that will have to go to Palace I expect. Belford will be a good replacement meaning we can replace Ranger (who is surely going to go, Championship at minimum - I would have said Norwich but unlikely now Houghton has gone) with someone who might cost a bit (League 2 top scorer or something).

The team framework is in place, we just need the bells and whistles to push us into contention for the title. Keep promoting youth, use the loan market, but most importantly balance the books.
Spot on Moonraker, agree 100%, also need a good manager.
[quote][p][bold]Moonraker1983[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't count on Foderingham being here next season, I'm sure he said he wanted to play Championship next season. I can't remember if he said with or without Town. No-one can begrudge him if he left, he's far better than League One standard and he gave Swindon two seasons to get up. We'd receive a hefty packet for him, but a fair chunk of that will have to go to Palace I expect. Belford will be a good replacement meaning we can replace Ranger (who is surely going to go, Championship at minimum - I would have said Norwich but unlikely now Houghton has gone) with someone who might cost a bit (League 2 top scorer or something). The team framework is in place, we just need the bells and whistles to push us into contention for the title. Keep promoting youth, use the loan market, but most importantly balance the books.[/p][/quote]Spot on Moonraker, agree 100%, also need a good manager. stranglers
  • Score: 1

11:39pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
London Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist
Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????
It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....
Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.
Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/
Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this....

Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough.
The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations.
The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home.
strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY???
The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened.
Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out...
The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more.

I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club......

But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless......

People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat.

I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin.

And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.
Over trained under PDC but under trained under Mark, guess we need Park Di Caper in charge. Said several times that I do not believe fitness is a problem but Stamina might be.

How many games did we play 4-6-0 ? Two I believe, won one lost one.

Posh game at home brought up again but no mention of the opposition, they played in the game too. We beat Sheff Utd but were pushed back in second half of that game, but we broke away and won.

I said at the start of the season I thought 2014-15 could be the year given the age of the squad and I still stand by that.

Is Mark the man ?

I'll judge next season. but ask if not happy, who ?

COYMR

ps all ST holders round me have renewed.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: quality is what I would like for our manager, instead we get a trialist[/p][/quote]Give Coops a fair crack of the whip! PDC was a trialist, Hoddle was a trialist,McCari was a trialist, need I go on???????[/p][/quote]It was a quip..... However the people you mention there is one MASSIVE difference with all of them.... Hoddle - International footballer with an amazing reading of the game and played for us which was a massive bonus Macari - International footballer with an amazing idea of how to get back to back promotions, train the squad for fitness, again realising that would be key in old money div 4. Ardiles - International and Div 1 footballer who had a great reading of the game and played football in the right way. Cooper brings - What ????? You tell me some positives ....[/p][/quote]Hoddle apart- the other names you mention - macari- ardiles - you can add p.d.c to that lists , all went on to fail in management at other clubs . Given that Cooper was plunged in the deep end when K.mac walked , then 8th in the league would suggests he has not done a bad job so far - bit unfair to compare him at this point - .On the the subject of whether he is the right man long term, I think it would be better to see what unfolds next season before making a fair judgement.[/p][/quote]Judging a manager on a playing career is completely the wrong thing to do! . The number of high profile players flopping at management is never ending . Yet the when you go to the other end of the spectrum and look at the real top managers - most are not brilliant footballers who could read the game etc . Sir Alex Ferguson Wenger Jose Rodgers - none were classed as good players - yet all could soon be title winning managers! . Lets so not forget what a total disaster Rodgers was at Reading - sometimes it just doesn't work - Cooper at Posh! . As to what Cooper brings there is this article: . http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/11121415 .Stephens_credits_Co oper_for_restoring_T own___s_self_belief/[/p][/quote]Red the players are always going to Kiss up mate, If thats stephens oppinion then good for him, my oppinion, having watched many more games than stephens is this.... Inept coaching, they are not fit, we are blowing after 65-70 minutes, they are not training enough. The most boring season I have watched for so long, little triangles in our own half, no forwards and silly 4-6-0 formations. The worst team away from home for I don't know how long, I normally go to 80% of the away games, I have stopped going recently we are rubbish away from home. strange decisions on the pitch, one of them being the Posh game in the cup at home, attacking formation we are all over them and then almost immediately he changes it, defensive trying to protect a 1-0 when we cant keep a clean sheet, WHY??? The run we went on 1 win in 8, we were awful to watch for many games before that happened. Some of you like him and clearly think he does a great job, thats your oppinion, welcome to it, but I see a team of very good individual players who have been set up wrong, who aren't being trained hard enough due to their fitness levels, he bought in smith as a Ranger back up and to be fair I like Smith, but he isn't going to hold the ball up like Ranger, he needed someone like Storey next to him, that took too long because he was out on loan, why ? when we knew Nile was out... The football this year is one of the reasons gates are dropping, we had higher gates under wilson the relegation year, to watch the team play everything in front off the opposition and not try to stretch their defence it makes it easy to play against us. Sure he is mixing it up now and we look 10X the team we were, I have enjoyed the last few games immensly more. I had even got to the point that after a long stint of season tickets if they hadn't offered the 10% I was taking a year out because I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. Been going since 82/83 I have always gone to 80% of the away games I buy shirts, I upgrade to a couple of corporate days, I spend money in the winners, so I support my club...... But every time I listen to his arrogant tripe on the radio I just think of one word....... Clueless...... People were on here three games ago slating him, well three wins haven't changed my mind, even more so when he was so rude and arrogant after the Carlisle defeat. I will continue to support the club and continue to support our players, but wanting a more experienced manager to get more from these players shouldn't be a sin. And my oppinion is a minority on here, but there are 12 season ticket holders around me in the TE that haven't renewed their tickets and feel exactly the same. In fact I have not had one conversation with fans, at home or away, where people are happy with him.[/p][/quote]Over trained under PDC but under trained under Mark, guess we need Park Di Caper in charge. Said several times that I do not believe fitness is a problem but Stamina might be. How many games did we play 4-6-0 ? Two I believe, won one lost one. Posh game at home brought up again but no mention of the opposition, they played in the game too. We beat Sheff Utd but were pushed back in second half of that game, but we broke away and won. I said at the start of the season I thought 2014-15 could be the year given the age of the squad and I still stand by that. Is Mark the man ? I'll judge next season. but ask if not happy, who ? COYMR ps all ST holders round me have renewed. Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

10:00am Thu 10 Apr 14

Stilloyal says...

Cooper is not a trialist he's a seasoned and failed manager we are his 4th or 5th club
Cooper is not a trialist he's a seasoned and failed manager we are his 4th or 5th club Stilloyal
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Thu 10 Apr 14

dazzastfc says...

Red till Dead wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
glenda hoddle wrote:
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on...

BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down.
Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge
Yea season tickets are down ain't they,we've only sold just over 4k which really ain't bad at all and this season ain't even over yet,poped into the ticket office earlier and the young lads kindly checked for me,I think we could well be in for an exciting season next with a few good additions and ranger on top form banging the goals in,looking forward to Saturdays game and a few pints with the old **** lol,coyr's
FAIR PLAY TO YOU...I hope your right

I will have a bet with you if you like that are season ticket sales will not be over 4750...
I think it was about 5250 last season...
People wont pay higher s/ticket prices IF they dont think they are getting value for money
[quote][p][bold]Red till Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glenda hoddle[/bold] wrote: If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.[/p][/quote]EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on... BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down. Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge[/p][/quote]Yea season tickets are down ain't they,we've only sold just over 4k which really ain't bad at all and this season ain't even over yet,poped into the ticket office earlier and the young lads kindly checked for me,I think we could well be in for an exciting season next with a few good additions and ranger on top form banging the goals in,looking forward to Saturdays game and a few pints with the old **** lol,coyr's[/p][/quote]FAIR PLAY TO YOU...I hope your right I will have a bet with you if you like that are season ticket sales will not be over 4750... I think it was about 5250 last season... People wont pay higher s/ticket prices IF they dont think they are getting value for money dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

9:28pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Red till Dead says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Red till Dead wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
glenda hoddle wrote:
If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.
EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on...

BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down.
Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge
Yea season tickets are down ain't they,we've only sold just over 4k which really ain't bad at all and this season ain't even over yet,poped into the ticket office earlier and the young lads kindly checked for me,I think we could well be in for an exciting season next with a few good additions and ranger on top form banging the goals in,looking forward to Saturdays game and a few pints with the old **** lol,coyr's
FAIR PLAY TO YOU...I hope your right

I will have a bet with you if you like that are season ticket sales will not be over 4750...
I think it was about 5250 last season...
People wont pay higher s/ticket prices IF they dont think they are getting value for money
Really a hard one to judge at this stage but why not,I'll bet you a few pints that they will be over 4750,enjoy Saturdays game and hopefully 3pts but its gona be a tough one.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red till Dead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glenda hoddle[/bold] wrote: If mark coopers is still manager at the start of next season i will be stuned . the man is gutless and has no clue.[/p][/quote]EVERYONE has a right to have their say and i think you are spot on... BUT cooper will be here and the s/ticket sales will be down. Attendance on the day will be down...THEN power might look at it again but sadly it will be too late..He will be here as long as power is in charge[/p][/quote]Yea season tickets are down ain't they,we've only sold just over 4k which really ain't bad at all and this season ain't even over yet,poped into the ticket office earlier and the young lads kindly checked for me,I think we could well be in for an exciting season next with a few good additions and ranger on top form banging the goals in,looking forward to Saturdays game and a few pints with the old **** lol,coyr's[/p][/quote]FAIR PLAY TO YOU...I hope your right I will have a bet with you if you like that are season ticket sales will not be over 4750... I think it was about 5250 last season... People wont pay higher s/ticket prices IF they dont think they are getting value for money[/p][/quote]Really a hard one to judge at this stage but why not,I'll bet you a few pints that they will be over 4750,enjoy Saturdays game and hopefully 3pts but its gona be a tough one. Red till Dead
  • Score: 1

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