Wiltshire's temporary chief constable will have to apply for permanent post

Temporary chief constable Patrick Geenty

Temporary chief constable Patrick Geenty

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Wiltshire's acting Chief Constable Patrick Geenty will have to apply for the post if he wants the job permanently after new Police and Crime Commissioner Angus Macpherson said he will advertise the job.

An advertisement for the role will be published in the Police Professional magazine on Thursday 29 November. There will also be adverts from Wednesday, 28 November on the Police Professional, Wiltshire Police and PCC websites.

Mr Macpherson said: “Patrick Geenty has been our temporary Chief Constable since March 2012, when his predecessor was seconded to the Border Agency. 

“I want to move quickly to secure a substantive appointment to the position of Chief Constable. There are a considerable number of vacancies nationally, and I want Wiltshire and Swindon to have the largest possible pool of candidates. We have therefore advertised early, and will be one of the first to recruit.”

Mr Macpherson is refusing to answer any more questions about the decision.

Mr Geenty's contract as temporary chief ends in March.

A police source said: "This doesn't necessarily mean that Pat Geenty isn't wanted as a chief contsbale in Wiltshire, it could just be that this is part of a due process to ensure the proper procedure in appointing a full time chief is followed.

Mr Geenty, who lives in Gastard near Corsham, made no secret of his desire to take on the role full-time in the run-up to the PCC elections.

"I'm enjoying the job and, if I'm wanted, I'd like to continue in it," he said.

Mr Geenty, who is married with two grown-up children, said he would apply to become chief constable permanently once his temporary contract ends.

He said: “I’d like to lead the force through the next couple of years, as they will bring the most significant change in my service and I would like to shape some of that.”

Mr Geenty joined the police service in 1983 and served in Gloucestershire and Humberside before joining Wiltshire Police as assistant chief constable in April 2009. He was appointed temporary deputy chief constable after the death of David Ainsworth, the previous deputy chief constable, in March 2011.

He became temporary chief last March when Brian Moore began a short-lived stint with the UK Border Force.

As part of the process, Mr Macpherson will chair a recruitment panel, which will comprise leaders of both Wiltshire Council and Swindon Borough Council and an experienced member of the voluntary sector.

He added: “It will be a rigorous process. The important dates are closing date for applications, 19 December, 2012, and 7 January, 2013, when we will interview.”

 

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10:08am Wed 28 Nov 12

dglaholm says...

Lets see how much the salary and perks add up to..
If we have PCC's why do we need Chief Constables...Will the salary be less....
Lets see how much the salary and perks add up to.. If we have PCC's why do we need Chief Constables...Will the salary be less.... dglaholm
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10:21am Wed 28 Nov 12

candid friend says...

This is the correct approach. Commissioner in the Chair ,and the Leaders of the two Principal Councils in Wiltshire on the Panel.
The disbanded Police Authority used to do this, but the new procedure is an advance in democracy.
This is the correct approach. Commissioner in the Chair ,and the Leaders of the two Principal Councils in Wiltshire on the Panel. The disbanded Police Authority used to do this, but the new procedure is an advance in democracy. candid friend
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10:33am Wed 28 Nov 12

WR950 says...

We need a chief constable. What we don't need is a £70k a year politician who received just 7% of the public vote, wading in on Policing in Wiltshire.

You wouldn't appoint a carpenter or a brick-layer who was useless with numbers to take care of your accounts, you'd appoint an accountant. You wouldn't appoint an accountant with a political agenda but no operational policing experience to run a Police force but oh, hang on a minute........we have!! Utterly ludicrous.
We need a chief constable. What we don't need is a £70k a year politician who received just 7% of the public vote, wading in on Policing in Wiltshire. You wouldn't appoint a carpenter or a brick-layer who was useless with numbers to take care of your accounts, you'd appoint an accountant. You wouldn't appoint an accountant with a political agenda but no operational policing experience to run a Police force but oh, hang on a minute........we have!! Utterly ludicrous. WR950
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5:24pm Wed 28 Nov 12

HarryHotspur says...

Time for a change at Devizes. Wiltshire Police has been racked by scandal these past 4-5 years. A new dynamic leader is necessary who can improve the basement level morale and put the force back where it once belonged. Those at the top are and were responsible for this decline and the good folk of Wiltshire have been pawns in their power play.
Time for a change at Devizes. Wiltshire Police has been racked by scandal these past 4-5 years. A new dynamic leader is necessary who can improve the basement level morale and put the force back where it once belonged. Those at the top are and were responsible for this decline and the good folk of Wiltshire have been pawns in their power play. HarryHotspur
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6:58pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Mike Hawkins says...

Time for a change at Devizes. Wiltshire Police has been racked by scandal these past 4-5 years. A new dynamic leader is necessary who can improve the basement level morale and put the force back where it once belonged. Those at the top are and were responsible for this decline and the good folk of Wiltshire have been pawns in their power play.”

Sorry? What scandals? One officer sacked for allegedly mistreating a female drunk (later overruled by the High Court), one senior officer alleged to have been fruity with female colleagues (but now dead and cannot defend himself)?

The result? One Harry Hotspur (no doubt a nom de plume as he /she does not want the public to know who the idiot is!) who can now be traced and sued for libel!
One newly elected PCC who has no operational police experience who will now decide who is best to run our police service.

The PCC elections broke all the rules:

1. If it isn't broke don't fix it!

2. Nobody elected with less than 7% of the vote will represent the people (if you have any doubt, see our current Government - they do no represent the electorate, although in their "cloud cuckoo" land they still claim to do so)
Time for a change at Devizes. Wiltshire Police has been racked by scandal these past 4-5 years. A new dynamic leader is necessary who can improve the basement level morale and put the force back where it once belonged. Those at the top are and were responsible for this decline and the good folk of Wiltshire have been pawns in their power play.” Sorry? What scandals? One officer sacked for allegedly mistreating a female drunk (later overruled by the High Court), one senior officer alleged to have been fruity with female colleagues (but now dead and cannot defend himself)? The result? One Harry Hotspur (no doubt a nom de plume as he /she does not want the public to know who the idiot is!) who can now be traced and sued for libel! One newly elected PCC who has no operational police experience who will now decide who is best to run our police service. The PCC elections broke all the rules: 1. If it isn't broke don't fix it! 2. Nobody elected with less than 7% of the vote will represent the people (if you have any doubt, see our current Government - they do no represent the electorate, although in their "cloud cuckoo" land they still claim to do so) Mike Hawkins
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10:21pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Empty Car Park says...

Doesn't take much to work out who Harry Hotspur is.
Doesn't take much to work out who Harry Hotspur is. Empty Car Park
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8:37am Thu 29 Nov 12

HarryHotspur says...

Three things:
1) Most correspondents write under a pseudonym. It's a long tradition.
2)Senior officer being "fruity"? Much more than that actually.
3)Libel? You libel an individual, not an organisation. Didn't write that 'A' did this or 'B' did that. If expressing an opinion about any large public body or corporation amounted to libel, the courts would be awash with actions arising from criticism in the media.

You may disagree with my observations but don't do yourself any favours with personal abuse and I won't respond in kind.
Three things: 1) Most correspondents write under a pseudonym. It's a long tradition. 2)Senior officer being "fruity"? Much more than that actually. 3)Libel? You libel an individual, not an organisation. Didn't write that 'A' did this or 'B' did that. If expressing an opinion about any large public body or corporation amounted to libel, the courts would be awash with actions arising from criticism in the media. You may disagree with my observations but don't do yourself any favours with personal abuse and I won't respond in kind. HarryHotspur
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9:24am Thu 29 Nov 12

I 2 Could B says...

Commissioner Angus Macpherson really does have his work cut out judging by the couple of articles above this one on this website.

Violent attackers not jailed, despite pleasing not guilty yet being found guilty, and householders being jailed for defending themselves against multiple violent intruders.

It really, really doesn't look very good, does it?
Commissioner Angus Macpherson really does have his work cut out judging by the couple of articles above this one on this website. [p] Violent attackers not jailed, despite pleasing not guilty yet being found guilty, and householders being jailed for defending themselves against multiple violent intruders. [p] It really, really doesn't look very good, does it? I 2 Could B
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12:07pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Mrs Donnyfly says...

Mike Hawkins said...

1. If it isn't broke don't fix it!

2. Nobody elected with less than 7% of the vote will represent the people (if you have any doubt, see our current Government - they do no represent the electorate, although in their "cloud cuckoo" land they still claim to do so)

It's odd that you should be against an elected Commissioner (irrespective of voter turnout) yet content with what went before - a wholly unelected and unaccountable Police Authority.
Mike Hawkins said... 1. If it isn't broke don't fix it! 2. Nobody elected with less than 7% of the vote will represent the people (if you have any doubt, see our current Government - they do no represent the electorate, although in their "cloud cuckoo" land they still claim to do so) It's odd that you should be against an elected Commissioner (irrespective of voter turnout) yet content with what went before - a wholly unelected and unaccountable Police Authority. Mrs Donnyfly
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12:45pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Empty Car Park says...

It's not that odd.
Police do law and order.
Politicians do politics.

There are plenty of engineers, firemen, teachers, etc that are not "elected"

Does every police officer have to be "elected"?
It's not that odd. Police do law and order. Politicians do politics. There are plenty of engineers, firemen, teachers, etc that are not "elected" Does every police officer have to be "elected"? Empty Car Park
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3:39pm Thu 29 Nov 12

zerotolerancetory says...

That's a good picture. You can't see the blood on his hands.
That's a good picture. You can't see the blood on his hands. zerotolerancetory
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4:19pm Thu 29 Nov 12

I 2 Could B says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
It's not that odd. Police do law and order. Politicians do politics. There are plenty of engineers, firemen, teachers, etc that are not "elected" Does every police officer have to be "elected"?
But, that's clearly not how it works, never has been.

Gordon Brown had no economic qualifications whatsoever, in fact, the only thing he had any knowledge of was Scottish Marxism... and yet he ran the nation's economy for a decade.

Mr Macpherson is an accountant, has worked as a magistrate and also as a councillor. If anything, he's a more rounded person to oversee the police than a career police officer.

Like some many who don't quite understand the new role, you seem to make the mistake of thinking Mr Macpherson will be involved in telling police officers how to do their job on a micro, day to day level.

He won't.

And, as you clearly didn't notice, Mr Macpherson is not a 'police officer', elected or otherwise, he is a Police and Crime Commissioner, something entirely different.

How did that vote for Robocop work out for you?
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: It's not that odd. Police do law and order. Politicians do politics. There are plenty of engineers, firemen, teachers, etc that are not "elected" Does every police officer have to be "elected"?[/p][/quote]But, that's clearly not how it works, never has been. [p] Gordon Brown had no economic qualifications whatsoever, in fact, the only thing he had any knowledge of was Scottish Marxism... and yet he ran the nation's economy for a decade. [p] Mr Macpherson is an accountant, has worked as a magistrate and also as a councillor. If anything, he's a more rounded person to oversee the police than a career police officer. [p] Like some many who don't quite understand the new role, you seem to make the mistake of thinking Mr Macpherson will be involved in telling police officers how to do their job on a micro, day to day level. [p] He won't. [p] And, as you clearly didn't notice, Mr Macpherson is not a 'police officer', elected or otherwise, he is a Police and Crime Commissioner, something entirely different. [p] How did that vote for Robocop work out for you? I 2 Could B
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11:16pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Empty Car Park says...

When did I say Macpherson was a police officer?

That's right. I didn't

Politics blinding you again Ollie?

To wannabe councillors like you politics is the be all and end all.

To everyone else it causes "economy of the truth", backstabbing, a blame culture, and a hindrance to people that want to operate efficiently
When did I say Macpherson was a police officer? That's right. I didn't Politics blinding you again Ollie? To wannabe councillors like you politics is the be all and end all. To everyone else it causes "economy of the truth", backstabbing, a blame culture, and a hindrance to people that want to operate efficiently Empty Car Park
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9:56am Fri 30 Nov 12

I 2 Could B says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
When did I say Macpherson was a police officer? That's right. I didn't Politics blinding you again Ollie? To wannabe councillors like you politics is the be all and end all. To everyone else it causes "economy of the truth", backstabbing, a blame culture, and a hindrance to people that want to operate efficiently
It's very clear what you meant from your previous post. Don't try and pretend otherwise now.

It's also very interesting that you should mention 'economy of the truth'.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: When did I say Macpherson was a police officer? That's right. I didn't Politics blinding you again Ollie? To wannabe councillors like you politics is the be all and end all. To everyone else it causes "economy of the truth", backstabbing, a blame culture, and a hindrance to people that want to operate efficiently[/p][/quote]It's very clear what you meant from your previous post. Don't try and pretend otherwise now. [p] It's also very interesting that you should mention 'economy of the truth'. I 2 Could B
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10:31pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Empty Car Park says...

I'm pleased that you find my comments very interesting.
I'm pleased that you find my comments very interesting. Empty Car Park
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9:25am Sat 1 Dec 12

I 2 Could B says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
I'm pleased that you find my comments very interesting.
No, please try and understand basic English. It's not your comments that are interesting, it's the hypocrisy behind them that allude to a very interesting psychological, er, 'wiring'.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: I'm pleased that you find my comments very interesting.[/p][/quote]No, please try and understand basic English. It's not your comments that are interesting, it's the hypocrisy behind them that allude to a very interesting psychological, er, 'wiring'. I 2 Could B
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2:03pm Sat 1 Dec 12

Empty Car Park says...

Only to a muppet who is convinced everybody that doesn't agree with his view must be a paid up member of the Labour party.
Only to a muppet who is convinced everybody that doesn't agree with his view must be a paid up member of the Labour party. Empty Car Park
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