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Council leader Rod Bluh resigns post

Swindon Advertiser: Council leader Rod Bluh resigns post Council leader Rod Bluh resigns post

SWINDON Council leader Rod Bluh is to resign from ‘the best job in the world’ in April following a record seven continuous years in charge of the authority.

Coun Bluh (Con, Old Town), who will become a public affairs consultant for other councils, says the decision was tough, but he needed more time for his own affairs – and he needs to earn more money for his eventual retirement.

He says he made the decision after May’s all-out election that it would be his last year, but thought it appropriate to make the announcement after the 2013/14 budget was set last week, with cabinet informed last night.

The Conservative group, which holds the majority, will meet in March to choose a new group leader, who is set to be elected the new council leader when Coun Bluh formally steps down at the full council meeting on April 11.

Coun Bluh said: “I think it’s the best job in the world. If you are passionate about the place in which you live and the people in the place in which you live, how could it not be the best job in the world to be able to influence what goes on?

“It’s a time-limited job, we all know that. I have got to think about my future. I have got 10 years left of working life and I need to make them count, otherwise my retirement will not look very good.”

Coun Bluh, 57, a chartered accountant, moved to Swindon in 2001 and was first elected in Dorcan in 2001, becoming deputy leader in 2005 and leader in 2006 after Coun Mike Bawden stepped down.

He said one of his key achievements included helping to transform the council from poorly rated to a top quartile performing authority, and getting investment in the town back on track following the recession. This included the new Central Library, station forecourt and register office, as well as regeneration at Union Square, the former Swindon College site and the Oasis. He said his main achievement was rebuilding trust with partners in the public, private, voluntary and community sectors, which he claims will be ever more important to help deliver services as spending cuts bite.

He added the council leader’s job was not without its down sides. “The bits I haven’t enjoyed as much are the political side. It’s not what drives me: pointless argument over frankly often manufactured issues doesn’t serve anyone at all.”

Coun Bluh said he would remain a councillor until at least May 2015 and did not expect to remain in the cabinet.

He advised his successor not to spend all their time on internal public sector budgets at the expense of the wider local economy, which he says is important for everyone.

Gavin Jones, the council’s chief executive, said: “It has been a pleasure working with Coun Bluh and I know he will continue to be a fantastic ambassador for the borough for many years to come.”

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9:20am Thu 28 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon.

Good luck with that.

Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election.

I'm sure his detractors will be gutted!
Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon. [p] Good luck with that. [p] Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election. [p] I'm sure his detractors will be gutted! Tim Newroman
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9:53am Thu 28 Feb 13

whaddahey?! says...

Maybe for some. Its very difficult to view Bluh's achievements fairly and objectively because it appears to me that too often he's allowed his personality and attitiude to become the main issue.

I think that an apparent lack of humility or ability to apreciate many of the valid seeming concerns of ordinary residents may have played its part in the minds of many.

Lots of good things have happened under his stewardship. But lots of very questionable things too. But separating the party from national imperitives and personal influence is difficult. Regeneration for example - almost totally stalled in comparison to the grandiose promises made (and endlessly repeated for political benefit in the face of the obvious truth.) The same with WiFi, something which was an utter failure, cost the borough half a million quid and which he and his colleagues still appear to be trying to defend as something other than a complete farce.

If Bluh became the focus of people's political fixations, I think it was because he chose to personally endorse or front so many policies which became contravercial.

On the plus side, he's been a staunch defender of the arts in Swindon and I have no doubt that managing such an odd-ball collection as our local council would have stretched the diplomatic skills of anyone.

Its time the council did away with the undemocratic 'leader' and cabinet system anyway. If there was a little more measured debate, deeper thought and consideration about policy, maybe fewer mistakes will be made?
Maybe for some. Its very difficult to view Bluh's achievements fairly and objectively because it appears to me that too often he's allowed his personality and attitiude to become the main issue. I think that an apparent lack of humility or ability to apreciate many of the valid seeming concerns of ordinary residents may have played its part in the minds of many. Lots of good things have happened under his stewardship. But lots of very questionable things too. But separating the party from national imperitives and personal influence is difficult. Regeneration for example - almost totally stalled in comparison to the grandiose promises made (and endlessly repeated for political benefit in the face of the obvious truth.) The same with WiFi, something which was an utter failure, cost the borough half a million quid and which he and his colleagues still appear to be trying to defend as something other than a complete farce. If Bluh became the focus of people's political fixations, I think it was because he chose to personally endorse or front so many policies which became contravercial. On the plus side, he's been a staunch defender of the arts in Swindon and I have no doubt that managing such an odd-ball collection as our local council would have stretched the diplomatic skills of anyone. Its time the council did away with the undemocratic 'leader' and cabinet system anyway. If there was a little more measured debate, deeper thought and consideration about policy, maybe fewer mistakes will be made? whaddahey?!
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10:06am Thu 28 Feb 13

RichardR1 says...

It would be quite a unique council if councillors acted voted in the interests of their constituents, not their party. But will never happen the whole time there is herd voting.
It would be quite a unique council if councillors acted voted in the interests of their constituents, not their party. But will never happen the whole time there is herd voting. RichardR1
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10:16am Thu 28 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

There is probably something more going on here. As with most politicians, business leaders and anyone with a circle of influence their is probably a back room deal forcing his hand.

Two of the most contentious projects are Wifi and Croft school, and I seem to recall reports are due on both quite soon.

Maybe they have been dumbed down in critisism if he resigned.

Who knows...?


Quote "Coun Bluh (Con, Old Town), who will become a public affairs consultant for other councils, says the decision was tough, but he needed more time for his own affairs – and he needs to earn more money for his eventual retirement."

Ironically it sounds like he's going to become one of the over paid consultants that the public sector has come to rely on so he'll continue to get paid from the public purse.
There is probably something more going on here. As with most politicians, business leaders and anyone with a circle of influence their is probably a back room deal forcing his hand. Two of the most contentious projects are Wifi and Croft school, and I seem to recall reports are due on both quite soon. Maybe they have been dumbed down in critisism if he resigned. Who knows...? Quote "Coun Bluh (Con, Old Town), who will become a public affairs consultant for other councils, says the decision was tough, but he needed more time for his own affairs – and he needs to earn more money for his eventual retirement." Ironically it sounds like he's going to become one of the over paid consultants that the public sector has come to rely on so he'll continue to get paid from the public purse. LordAshOfTheBrake
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10:24am Thu 28 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Perhaps he can apologise for wasting for £450k of our money on the wi-fi scheme now.

Agreed with the comment about scraping the 'leader' and 'cabinet' run by the ruling party - utilise all the 'talents' available, not just those who happened to belong to the party who's got the most seats right now.
Perhaps he can apologise for wasting for £450k of our money on the wi-fi scheme now. Agreed with the comment about scraping the 'leader' and 'cabinet' run by the ruling party - utilise all the 'talents' available, not just those who happened to belong to the party who's got the most seats right now. Jeremy Hilary Boob
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1:20pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Peter Mallinson says...

Rod Bluh has done a good job over the time he has been in charge.

It is never easy to please everyone all of the time and in Swindon it is impossible to please a small number of people any time.

Instead of speculating on his reasons why not just accept that he has made his decision and leave it at that.

Has it not occured to any people making comments so far the it may not be possible to be a Consultant to other councils and be a Swindon Councillor at the same time.

Best of luck Rod.
Rod Bluh has done a good job over the time he has been in charge. It is never easy to please everyone all of the time and in Swindon it is impossible to please a small number of people any time. Instead of speculating on his reasons why not just accept that he has made his decision and leave it at that. Has it not occured to any people making comments so far the it may not be possible to be a Consultant to other councils and be a Swindon Councillor at the same time. Best of luck Rod. Peter Mallinson
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1:27pm Thu 28 Feb 13

house on the hill says...

"""Jeremy Hilary Boob says...
10:24am Thu 28 Feb 13

Perhaps he can apologise for wasting for £450k of our money on the wi-fi scheme now.

Agreed with the comment about scraping the 'leader' and 'cabinet' run by the ruling party - utilise all the 'talents' available, not just those who happened to belong to the party who's got the most seats right now.”"""

I dont think you will ever find the words "apologise" and "politician" ever going together, so thats never going to happen. As for "talents" that is one of the major problems with politicians, they dont have to have "talent" or knowledge or experience or even the ability to be a good councillor or MP just a big mouth and enough money to get elected. And we wonder why the country is in this mess.....
"""Jeremy Hilary Boob says... 10:24am Thu 28 Feb 13 Perhaps he can apologise for wasting for £450k of our money on the wi-fi scheme now. Agreed with the comment about scraping the 'leader' and 'cabinet' run by the ruling party - utilise all the 'talents' available, not just those who happened to belong to the party who's got the most seats right now.”""" I dont think you will ever find the words "apologise" and "politician" ever going together, so thats never going to happen. As for "talents" that is one of the major problems with politicians, they dont have to have "talent" or knowledge or experience or even the ability to be a good councillor or MP just a big mouth and enough money to get elected. And we wonder why the country is in this mess..... house on the hill
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2:16pm Thu 28 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Peter Mallinson wrote:
Rod Bluh has done a good job over the time he has been in charge.

It is never easy to please everyone all of the time and in Swindon it is impossible to please a small number of people any time.

Instead of speculating on his reasons why not just accept that he has made his decision and leave it at that.

Has it not occured to any people making comments so far the it may not be possible to be a Consultant to other councils and be a Swindon Councillor at the same time.

Best of luck Rod.
If I read the article correctly, he hasn't resigned his councillor position; only resigned as leader and from the cabinet.

He will not put himself up for re-election in May 2015..... At that point he will cease to be a councillor. That is 2 years away.


There will be a massive conflict of interest in his being a consultant to councils and a councillor.

No wonder elements of the council are in disarray when attention to detail is clearly lacking.
[quote][p][bold]Peter Mallinson[/bold] wrote: Rod Bluh has done a good job over the time he has been in charge. It is never easy to please everyone all of the time and in Swindon it is impossible to please a small number of people any time. Instead of speculating on his reasons why not just accept that he has made his decision and leave it at that. Has it not occured to any people making comments so far the it may not be possible to be a Consultant to other councils and be a Swindon Councillor at the same time. Best of luck Rod.[/p][/quote]If I read the article correctly, he hasn't resigned his councillor position; only resigned as leader and from the cabinet. He will not put himself up for re-election in May 2015..... At that point he will cease to be a councillor. That is 2 years away. There will be a massive conflict of interest in his being a consultant to councils and a councillor. No wonder elements of the council are in disarray when attention to detail is clearly lacking. LordAshOfTheBrake
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5:13pm Thu 28 Feb 13

candid friend says...

There is generally something going on in the background ,when a Leader resigns.
Have the "Men in the crumpled suits" called on him to announce that his time is up?
What bad news is just around the corner?
In any event The Tories are likely to lose their majority before long, and he would lose his salary as Council Leader!
Who will take over? Most of the potential candidates were discredited by the "Wi Fi" affair with its overtones of corruption.
If you eliminate all those tainted by that affair there are not many left.
For fun why not Nick Martin for Leader?
Will Bluh become Leader Emeritus ensconced in some garret at the CivicOffices, and consulted in times of difficulty!
There is generally something going on in the background ,when a Leader resigns. Have the "Men in the crumpled suits" called on him to announce that his time is up? What bad news is just around the corner? In any event The Tories are likely to lose their majority before long, and he would lose his salary as Council Leader! Who will take over? Most of the potential candidates were discredited by the "Wi Fi" affair with its overtones of corruption. If you eliminate all those tainted by that affair there are not many left. For fun why not Nick Martin for Leader? Will Bluh become Leader Emeritus ensconced in some garret at the CivicOffices, and consulted in times of difficulty! candid friend
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6:12pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Peter Mallinson says...

I have just spoken to Rod Bluh and he has confirmed that he is not to be "a consultant for other councils" as reported in this article and therefore will not be paid from public funds.

He will be in the private sector.

He will also carry on as a councillor and not be causing any by-elections.

I hope David Wiles will correct the reference to "consultant for councils" in some form of retraction.
I have just spoken to Rod Bluh and he has confirmed that he is not to be "a consultant for other councils" as reported in this article and therefore will not be paid from public funds. He will be in the private sector. He will also carry on as a councillor and not be causing any by-elections. I hope David Wiles will correct the reference to "consultant for councils" in some form of retraction. Peter Mallinson
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9:32pm Thu 28 Feb 13

SimonPrice351 says...

Wonder if he's taking up a role with Common Purpose or another QUANGO.

Won't miss him- too much of an 'I am always right' attitude and as already posted he p1ssed tax payers money away on a useless IT scheme.

I'd make him refund the taxpayer.
Wonder if he's taking up a role with Common Purpose or another QUANGO. Won't miss him- too much of an 'I am always right' attitude and as already posted he p1ssed tax payers money away on a useless IT scheme. I'd make him refund the taxpayer. SimonPrice351
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9:56pm Thu 28 Feb 13

XJR says...

Happy days & good riddance Mr Bluh
Happy days & good riddance Mr Bluh XJR
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10:34pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Phantom Poster says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon.

Good luck with that.

Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election.

I'm sure his detractors will be gutted!
I'm so surprised by your support of Rod Bluh!

Your continual verbal diarrhoea regarding imprisoning everyone and taking everyones benefits away just make you look like a joke! I'm guessing that you support the Conservative party and read the Daily Mail.

Even more surprising is why do you spend so much effort telling everyone your feelings on a local newspapers comments pages?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon. [p] Good luck with that. [p] Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election. [p] I'm sure his detractors will be gutted![/p][/quote]I'm so surprised by your support of Rod Bluh! Your continual verbal diarrhoea regarding imprisoning everyone and taking everyones benefits away just make you look like a joke! I'm guessing that you support the Conservative party and read the Daily Mail. Even more surprising is why do you spend so much effort telling everyone your feelings on a local newspapers comments pages? Phantom Poster
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10:56pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Phantom Poster says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon.

Good luck with that.

Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election.

I'm sure his detractors will be gutted!
Tim,

Any comments regarding Rod Bluh and his competence regarding the WiFi fiasco?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon. [p] Good luck with that. [p] Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election. [p] I'm sure his detractors will be gutted![/p][/quote]Tim, Any comments regarding Rod Bluh and his competence regarding the WiFi fiasco? Phantom Poster
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11:02pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Phantom Poster says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon.

Good luck with that.

Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election.

I'm sure his detractors will be gutted!
Have you ever hear of a sacked CEO where it hasn't been announced that he has moved on to "pursue other interests"!

I know you're a tory, but a bit naive Tim!
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon. [p] Good luck with that. [p] Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election. [p] I'm sure his detractors will be gutted![/p][/quote]Have you ever hear of a sacked CEO where it hasn't been announced that he has moved on to "pursue other interests"! I know you're a tory, but a bit naive Tim! Phantom Poster
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8:38am Fri 1 Mar 13

Tim Newroman says...

Phantom Poster wrote:
Tim Newroman wrote:
Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon.

Good luck with that.

Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election.

I'm sure his detractors will be gutted!
Tim,

Any comments regarding Rod Bluh and his competence regarding the WiFi fiasco?
Can't say I'm particularly interested.

Uninformed councillors are led up the garden path by well known local 'businessman' who promised something that everyone pretty much had already. Sure, the whole thing was a complete joke, from the very start to the - well, I would say finish but it never even really started.

The whole charade did, at one point, look like something to pin the local Labour group's all-out election hopes on. Let's face it, they had nothing else going for them. As it transpired, the electorate of Swindon either don't read Talk Swindon or simply don't really care about the whole Wi-Fi backfire.

As I've said all along, it was a farce (of course) but, in the scheme of things, £400k of wasted money is a drop in the ocean compared to the amounts of our money they waste on an annual basis on things that the vast majority of those paying the tax would never agree to if they actually had a choice.

Obviously, some people would like to keep the whole story alive, as they still think it'll help Labour's election campaigns, but I think most people either don't even know about it, don't care in the slightest or have simply forgotten about it.
[quote][p][bold]Phantom Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon. [p] Good luck with that. [p] Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election. [p] I'm sure his detractors will be gutted![/p][/quote]Tim, Any comments regarding Rod Bluh and his competence regarding the WiFi fiasco?[/p][/quote]Can't say I'm particularly interested. [p] Uninformed councillors are led up the garden path by well known local 'businessman' who promised something that everyone pretty much had already. Sure, the whole thing was a complete joke, from the very start to the - well, I would say finish but it never even really started. [p] The whole charade did, at one point, look like something to pin the local Labour group's all-out election hopes on. Let's face it, they had nothing else going for them. As it transpired, the electorate of Swindon either don't read Talk Swindon or simply don't really care about the whole Wi-Fi backfire. [p] As I've said all along, it was a farce (of course) but, in the scheme of things, £400k of wasted money is a drop in the ocean compared to the amounts of our money they waste on an annual basis on things that the vast majority of those paying the tax would never agree to if they actually had a choice. [p] Obviously, some people would like to keep the whole story alive, as they still think it'll help Labour's election campaigns, but I think most people either don't even know about it, don't care in the slightest or have simply forgotten about it. Tim Newroman
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9:23am Fri 1 Mar 13

Tim Newroman says...

Phantom Poster wrote:
Tim Newroman wrote:
Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon.

Good luck with that.

Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election.

I'm sure his detractors will be gutted!
Have you ever hear of a sacked CEO where it hasn't been announced that he has moved on to "pursue other interests"!

I know you're a tory, but a bit naive Tim!
Of course. No naivety here. It's obvious what's happened. But re-read my point: there will be some people who will be deeply irritated that Bluh has, officially, chosen to step down of his own accord. No battered at the poll booths, no public ignominy. Despite what you may think of him, and despite the inevitables speculating about his demise, it's fairly smart maneuvering.

It'll be interesting to see who's next for the firing line.
[quote][p][bold]Phantom Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: Interesting stuff. The way some people bang on with their perverse fixations, this should now mean an unparalleled era of prosperity, joy and wonder for the town of Swindon. [p] Good luck with that. [p] Bluh's played a bit of a blinder, here. Gets to resign of his own accord and not having to lose an election. [p] I'm sure his detractors will be gutted![/p][/quote]Have you ever hear of a sacked CEO where it hasn't been announced that he has moved on to "pursue other interests"! I know you're a tory, but a bit naive Tim![/p][/quote]Of course. No naivety here. It's obvious what's happened. But re-read my point: there will be some people who will be deeply irritated that Bluh has, officially, chosen to step down of his own accord. No battered at the poll booths, no public ignominy. Despite what you may think of him, and despite the inevitables speculating about his demise, it's fairly smart maneuvering. [p] It'll be interesting to see who's next for the firing line. Tim Newroman
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11:35am Fri 1 Mar 13

Always Grumpy says...

I'm just hoping that slimey character Martin doesn't end up as leader.
Anyway, I wouldn't trust any of them to run Swindon's affairs effectively. They're all talentless amateures as far as I'm concerned and shouldn't be left in charge of running a scout group, let alone a large council.
I'm just hoping that slimey character Martin doesn't end up as leader. Anyway, I wouldn't trust any of them to run Swindon's affairs effectively. They're all talentless amateures as far as I'm concerned and shouldn't be left in charge of running a scout group, let alone a large council. Always Grumpy
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1:23pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Tim Newroman says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
I'm just hoping that slimey character Martin doesn't end up as leader.
Anyway, I wouldn't trust any of them to run Swindon's affairs effectively. They're all talentless amateures as far as I'm concerned and shouldn't be left in charge of running a scout group, let alone a large council.
Can't see him having a chance, too old and tainted by his recent censure.

I reckon it'll be someone much younger, to counter the 'old fogey' nature of the local Labour group's, er, 'top' men.

You're right, though. They're all essentially just making it up as they go along and many are barely competent. Thing is, just about anyone can get elected as a local councillor, just look at the independent Cornwall councillor!

Like with so many areas of the public sector, those who would be best placed to do the job are the same people who'd never dream of doing those jobs. I can never really understand why anyone would seek to be elected as a councillor.
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: I'm just hoping that slimey character Martin doesn't end up as leader. Anyway, I wouldn't trust any of them to run Swindon's affairs effectively. They're all talentless amateures as far as I'm concerned and shouldn't be left in charge of running a scout group, let alone a large council.[/p][/quote]Can't see him having a chance, too old and tainted by his recent censure. [p] I reckon it'll be someone much younger, to counter the 'old fogey' nature of the local Labour group's, er, 'top' men. [p] You're right, though. They're all essentially just making it up as they go along and many are barely competent. Thing is, just about anyone can get elected as a local councillor, just look at the independent Cornwall councillor! [p] Like with so many areas of the public sector, those who would be best placed to do the job are the same people who'd never dream of doing those jobs. I can never really understand why anyone would seek to be elected as a councillor. Tim Newroman
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7:00pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Peter Mallinson says...

It is disgraceful to brand all councillors as "barely competent or talentless amateures"

Yes there will always be some who are not up to doing the job but you must ask the question;

"WHO PUT THEM THERE".

Answer "YOU DID".

Most councillors are of mixed talent and education and do the best that can be done with the system we have.

There are some who run their own businesses or who have achieved good positions in industry.

Barristers, accountants, officers in the military etc, not a bad mix and certainly not talentless.

Not so sure about the trolls who frequent these sites.
It is disgraceful to brand all councillors as "barely competent or talentless amateures" Yes there will always be some who are not up to doing the job but you must ask the question; "WHO PUT THEM THERE". Answer "YOU DID". Most councillors are of mixed talent and education and do the best that can be done with the system we have. There are some who run their own businesses or who have achieved good positions in industry. Barristers, accountants, officers in the military etc, not a bad mix and certainly not talentless. Not so sure about the trolls who frequent these sites. Peter Mallinson
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7:17pm Fri 1 Mar 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

@Peter

Whilst a limited number of voters may have put some of them their; its mostly because of party politics.

If all Councillors were independent, I suspect a few would not have been elected.

In many seats (local and national) a monkey would be elected if they wore the right colour rosette.

Remind us again what the turnout was in the local elections...?

Ironically you defend generalisations by referring to those making comments as trolls. Pot... Kettle.... Black!
@Peter Whilst a limited number of voters may have put some of them their; its mostly because of party politics. If all Councillors were independent, I suspect a few would not have been elected. In many seats (local and national) a monkey would be elected if they wore the right colour rosette. Remind us again what the turnout was in the local elections...? Ironically you defend generalisations by referring to those making comments as trolls. Pot... Kettle.... Black! LordAshOfTheBrake
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7:53pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Peter Mallinson says...

It is up to the voters to look beyond the party and check who they vote for.

If you are aligned to a particular party and the candidate is not good enough then dont vote for them.

It is the voters who have the final say, not the political parties.

Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice.
It is up to the voters to look beyond the party and check who they vote for. If you are aligned to a particular party and the candidate is not good enough then dont vote for them. It is the voters who have the final say, not the political parties. Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice. Peter Mallinson
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10:51pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Always Grumpy says...

Peter Mallinson wrote:
It is disgraceful to brand all councillors as "barely competent or talentless amateures"

Yes there will always be some who are not up to doing the job but you must ask the question;

"WHO PUT THEM THERE".

Answer "YOU DID".

Most councillors are of mixed talent and education and do the best that can be done with the system we have.

There are some who run their own businesses or who have achieved good positions in industry.

Barristers, accountants, officers in the military etc, not a bad mix and certainly not talentless.

Not so sure about the trolls who frequent these sites.
"WHO PUT THEM THERE".

Answer "YOU DID".

Well, I certainly didn't as it's been a long time since there's ever been anyone worth voting for.
As far as I'm concerned altruism in local politics disappeared a long, long time ago. I wouldn't trust any of the current bunch to run Swindon farther than I could throw them. They all just tow the party line like dumb sheep.
[quote][p][bold]Peter Mallinson[/bold] wrote: It is disgraceful to brand all councillors as "barely competent or talentless amateures" Yes there will always be some who are not up to doing the job but you must ask the question; "WHO PUT THEM THERE". Answer "YOU DID". Most councillors are of mixed talent and education and do the best that can be done with the system we have. There are some who run their own businesses or who have achieved good positions in industry. Barristers, accountants, officers in the military etc, not a bad mix and certainly not talentless. Not so sure about the trolls who frequent these sites.[/p][/quote]"WHO PUT THEM THERE". Answer "YOU DID". Well, I certainly didn't as it's been a long time since there's ever been anyone worth voting for. As far as I'm concerned altruism in local politics disappeared a long, long time ago. I wouldn't trust any of the current bunch to run Swindon farther than I could throw them. They all just tow the party line like dumb sheep. Always Grumpy
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9:03am Sat 2 Mar 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Peter Mallinson wrote:
It is up to the voters to look beyond the party and check who they vote for.

If you are aligned to a particular party and the candidate is not good enough then dont vote for them.

It is the voters who have the final say, not the political parties.

Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice.
However we can blame those that get elected when they fail to honour their pledges. Such as all the candidates who said they would object to some of the developments at Ridgeway & tadpole farms etc; but then waved the planning through!


I guess maybe in your case maybe the voters did just that...

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Swindon_Cou
ncil_election,_2012#
Old_Town_Ward

A ward that is traditionally conservative and they voted in a labour representative instead of yourself.


In most wards however you can clearly see that where multiple party candidates were available, most people voted for all candidates of that party.
[quote][p][bold]Peter Mallinson[/bold] wrote: It is up to the voters to look beyond the party and check who they vote for. If you are aligned to a particular party and the candidate is not good enough then dont vote for them. It is the voters who have the final say, not the political parties. Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice.[/p][/quote]However we can blame those that get elected when they fail to honour their pledges. Such as all the candidates who said they would object to some of the developments at Ridgeway & tadpole farms etc; but then waved the planning through! I guess maybe in your case maybe the voters did just that... http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Swindon_Cou ncil_election,_2012# Old_Town_Ward A ward that is traditionally conservative and they voted in a labour representative instead of yourself. In most wards however you can clearly see that where multiple party candidates were available, most people voted for all candidates of that party. LordAshOfTheBrake
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10:05am Sat 2 Mar 13

Tim Newroman says...


Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice.

Often, the only choice is to vote for a monkey.

Let's be honest, the VAST majority of people who vote for a given councillor don't know anything about that person other than their name and their party affiliation.

And, whether you like/admit it or not, the majority of councillors ARE barely competent amateurs. Just watch a programme such as the BBC's 'The Planners' to see exactly what I mean.
[quote] Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice. [/quote] Often, the only choice is to vote for a monkey. [p] Let's be honest, the VAST majority of people who vote for a given councillor don't know anything about that person other than their name and their party affiliation. [p] And, whether you like/admit it or not, the majority of councillors ARE barely competent amateurs. Just watch a programme such as the BBC's 'The Planners' to see exactly what I mean. Tim Newroman
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11:56am Sat 2 Mar 13

MrAngry says...

Peter Mallinson wrote:
It is up to the voters to look beyond the party and check who they vote for.

If you are aligned to a particular party and the candidate is not good enough then dont vote for them.

It is the voters who have the final say, not the political parties.

Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice.
Local government is about party politics especially since the cabinet system.

At a general election, very few people are voting for Snelgrove/Tomlinson etc, they are indirectly voting for Cameron/Miliband.

Rod Bluh had a reputation for being a bit of a dictator, so when I vote in my ward, I am really voting for/against Bluh. If the labour candidate in my area is a monkey, he/she is still my only viable anti-Bluh vote.

Local elections aren't a popularity contest, they have become an unpopularity contest. The least unpopular candidate is elected.

Perhaps we should have a Big Brother style council, with one evicted each week. That would keep them on their toes.
[quote][p][bold]Peter Mallinson[/bold] wrote: It is up to the voters to look beyond the party and check who they vote for. If you are aligned to a particular party and the candidate is not good enough then dont vote for them. It is the voters who have the final say, not the political parties. Dont blame the councillors if you vote for a monkey. You make your own choice.[/p][/quote]Local government is about party politics especially since the cabinet system. At a general election, very few people are voting for Snelgrove/Tomlinson etc, they are indirectly voting for Cameron/Miliband. Rod Bluh had a reputation for being a bit of a dictator, so when I vote in my ward, I am really voting for/against Bluh. If the labour candidate in my area is a monkey, he/she is still my only viable anti-Bluh vote. Local elections aren't a popularity contest, they have become an unpopularity contest. The least unpopular candidate is elected. Perhaps we should have a Big Brother style council, with one evicted each week. That would keep them on their toes. MrAngry
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12:02pm Sat 2 Mar 13

MrAngry says...

..... or instead of Big Brother, how about 'I'm a monkey ... get me outta here'.

The public could vote for the worst decision of the month and the responsible councillor would be forced to eat a kangaroo testicle at the next full council meeting.
..... or instead of Big Brother, how about 'I'm a monkey ... get me outta here'. The public could vote for the worst decision of the month and the responsible councillor would be forced to eat a kangaroo testicle at the next full council meeting. MrAngry
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2:05pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Peter Mallinson says...

I appear to have woken a few people from their slumber.

Good

Now stop voting for Monkeys
I appear to have woken a few people from their slumber. Good Now stop voting for Monkeys Peter Mallinson
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2:33pm Sat 2 Mar 13

MrAngry says...

Last time I went to the zoo the monkeys were either masturbating in the corner or throwing faeces at each other. How is that different from the council chamber?
Last time I went to the zoo the monkeys were either masturbating in the corner or throwing faeces at each other. How is that different from the council chamber? MrAngry
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5:03pm Sat 9 Mar 13

James Smith Bowser says...

Mwhahahahha listen to you lot never got chosen for anything in your lives telling other people who have the nuts to walk the streets and get votes how to act? mwhahahahha

if you are all experts let us see how YOU get voted for eh? Ah right you woultnd know were to start.

u nothings

what have you done EVER but sit around talking crap eh? NOTHING but you got a lot to say about people who do

go back to doing nothign and leave those that try to it, at least they have the balls to try//.
Mwhahahahha listen to you lot never got chosen for anything in your lives telling other people who have the nuts to walk the streets and get votes how to act? mwhahahahha if you are all experts let us see how YOU get voted for eh? Ah right you woultnd know were to start. u nothings what have you done EVER but sit around talking crap eh? NOTHING but you got a lot to say about people who do go back to doing nothign and leave those that try to it, at least they have the balls to try//. James Smith Bowser
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5:00pm Tue 12 Mar 13

mariusgoring says...

Peter Mallinson wrote:
Rod Bluh has done a good job over the time he has been in charge.

It is never easy to please everyone all of the time and in Swindon it is impossible to please a small number of people any time.

Instead of speculating on his reasons why not just accept that he has made his decision and leave it at that.

Has it not occured to any people making comments so far the it may not be possible to be a Consultant to other councils and be a Swindon Councillor at the same time.

Best of luck Rod.
Rod Bluh is a very silly man with an even sillier name. He has acted disgracefully in everything that I have looked into. He is a proven liar and he has got away with murder over the years.

The idea of one man with little brain "running" SBC is ludicrous and extremely undemocratic. The sooner that the Cabinet system is withdrawn and a return to democratic debate, the better
[quote][p][bold]Peter Mallinson[/bold] wrote: Rod Bluh has done a good job over the time he has been in charge. It is never easy to please everyone all of the time and in Swindon it is impossible to please a small number of people any time. Instead of speculating on his reasons why not just accept that he has made his decision and leave it at that. Has it not occured to any people making comments so far the it may not be possible to be a Consultant to other councils and be a Swindon Councillor at the same time. Best of luck Rod.[/p][/quote]Rod Bluh is a very silly man with an even sillier name. He has acted disgracefully in everything that I have looked into. He is a proven liar and he has got away with murder over the years. The idea of one man with little brain "running" SBC is ludicrous and extremely undemocratic. The sooner that the Cabinet system is withdrawn and a return to democratic debate, the better mariusgoring
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