Wi-fi boss was paid £12k a month... but who agreed to it?

Rikki Hunt and Rod Bluh at the launch of the wi-fi project in 2009

Rikki Hunt and Rod Bluh at the launch of the wi-fi project in 2009

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BUSINESSMAN Rikki Hunt’s firm was paid more than £100,000 to lead Swindon’s failed wi-fi project as part of £360,000 of taxpayers’ money spent over just 16 months on “administrative expenses”.

Swindon Council agreed in October 2009 to invest up to £450,000 in the firm Digital City (UK) Ltd, to provide broadband access and other wi-fi related services across the Swindon borough, but infrastructure was only installed in Highworth and the firm never generated enough income to pay the loan back.

The council set up the firm under a joint venture partnership with technical partners aQovia UK Ltd and Avidity Consulting Ltd, a firm owned by Mr Hunt, who became the managing director of the new firm, based at the David Murray John Tower, in the town centre. Swindon Council eventually invested £400,000 and was the only cash investor of the parties.

The firm was projected to pay back the loan within two years and produce a net annual profit of about £700,000 after two years, but by the end of 2010 it had made an operating loss of £459,180, leading to questions about what went wrong and where the cash went.

Now an independent auditor’s report to the shareholders, which has been passed to the Adver, reveals that between August 14, 2009 and December 31, 2010, Digital City paid Mr Hunt’s Avidity Consulting £105,067 in “consultancy costs”.

The chief executive post was always meant to be remunerated, but a leaked draft report from a review group of Swindon councillors looking into the wi-fi fiasco, says it is not clear who authorised his salary, which Mr Hunt says he agreed to stop taking in June 2010.

It states: “The shareholder panel... never met yet the CE of Digital City was awarded remuneration of £12,000 per month. No one interviewed could remember being part of the decision to approve that.”

The auditor’s report reveals that Digital City’s payment to Avidity Consulting formed part of the £359,876 it paid in “administrative expenses”, which among other office costs included £25,578 for wages and salaries, £3,106 for travel and subsistence, and £601 for entertainment.

According to the report, Digital City only had a turnover of £5,000 and a handful of customers. But over the same period it spent £31,500 on product management and sales support, £3,600 on business intelligence, £16,000 on customer intelligence and £16,000 on billing, collections and debt management.

The auditor’s report does not state who was paid for these administrative expenses, including for these four services.

During a council meeting in January, wi-fi critic Des Morgan, of Caraway Drive, West Swindon, asked Coun Garry Perkins whether any of the work for these four services was undertaken by Mr Hunt or any member of his family, and whether any of the money was paid to Mr Hunt or to any family member or company/organisation with which Mr Hunt had an association.

He added: “Unless a full answer is given, he [Coun Perkins] and the council must be prepared to accept that it will always look as if you are attempting to avoid disclosure of some unsavoury issue.”

There is no evidence of improper conduct and Coun Perkins, cabinet member for regeneration and culture, who represented Swindon Council on the board of Digital City, said he utterly repudiated his insinuations, adding that he had provided more detail than the director of a private company would.

Mr Morgan reported his concerns to the police who decided there was no basis for further investigation.

Mr Hunt, 59, of Carlisle Avenue, who is a former chairman of Swindon Town FC, became bankrupt in March 2011, which among other restrictions means he cannot be a company director. Bankruptcy normally lasts for 12 months but this was extended in January 2012 until January 2016 because he broke the restrictions.

The Insolvency Service said he failed to disclose to the official receiver that he owned shares in a private limited company, estimated to be worth between £3,250 and £16,500, which should have gone into the pot to be paid to creditors. Mr Hunt subsequently arranged the transfer of the shares to another for no consideration.

According to Companies House, Avidity Consulting was dissolved via voluntary strike-off on December 11, 2012 following an application from Mr Hunt’s wife, Laura, 44, who was appointed the sole director on December 1, 2010 – the day before Mr Hunt resigned.

'There was nothing improper about it'

FORMER wi-fi boss Rikki Hunt said the payout to his firm of more than £100,000 was reasonable – and said ‘nothing improper’ went on with Digital City UK.

Mr Hunt, who left the firm in March 2011, said the level of renumeration to Avidity Consulting Ltd was something agreed initially between the shareholders. He said Swindon Council was represented in the discussions by officers, who he would not name because he did not think it was fair on them.

He said: “Shareholders agreed the consultancy and service payments for both aQovia and myself before the project started, so by definition the council as a partner was party to these discussions. They had to be, they were partners. It was in the business plan. They agreed and that’s the end of it.

“If you look at my background of earnings, it was not excessive. It was quite reasonable, it was quite low to what I had earned previously, and I was stopping everything I was doing to focus on this project.

“I’m 100 per cent there was nothing that was not proper. There shouldn’t be, that’s not what I would do, it’s a nonsense, it’s just people pick on certain pieces and blow them up into conspiracies.”

Mr Hunt said none of the money went to his family or any of his other companies. He said he voluntarily agreed in June 2010 to stop payments to Avidity Consulting.

Mr Hunt, who said Digital City only employed one person for admin and sales and marketing support, said aQovia received the money spent on product management, on sales support, on business intelligence, on customer intelligence and £16,000 on billing, collections and debt management.

He said these were part of the set-up costs and were required no matter how many customers there were.

He said the fact the project became politicised was not helpful in securing customers and suppliers, but would not say any more about the reasons for the failure of Digital City until the council’s review is published in the coming weeks.

Mr Hunt, now a business coach, said he went bankrupt because of personal investments, which had nothing to do with Digital City or Avidity Consulting.

Coun Garry Perkins, who was the council’s director on Digital City, said: “I was not aware that he was being paid anything. I was not aware of the arrangements that had been made. And the first board meeting I had was with aQovia and Rikki in June [2010] and that was when the discussion came up of the renumeration Rikki’s company was getting.

“And because of the non-profit-making at that time of Digital City, it was agreed to stop payment at that meeting. So any money he received was prior to me being aware of him receiving any money.”

Coun Perkins said he was not involved in the initial discussions and could not comment on the level of payment, but assumed it was agreed by all parties.

'It was not put out to tender'

WI-FI campaigner Des Morgan said: “It appears that Mr Hunt paid himself over £12,000 per month from the very outset of the wi-fi scheme – the accounts suggest he considered it appropriate to take over 25 per cent of the sum loaned by the council as a salary.

“At the same time Mr Hunt was also being paid to act as a business mentor to officers and he was paid £12,000 over the same period he was being paid to manage Digital City. In total Mr Hunt received payments from the council totalling £82,000 for what was described as coaching council officers in preparation for their move to an arms-length company.

“What we do know is that the work for which Mr Hunt was paid £82,000 was not put out to tender, it was not discussed by the cabinet and it was not apparently subject to any contract stipulating the type of services to be provided or a timeline in which the mentoring was to be completed.

“In total Mr Hunt was the beneficiary of over £187,000 of taxpayers’ money and there is little if any audit trail showing whether value for money was obtained.”

But why did it fail?

DIFFERENT theories still abound for the failure of the wi-fi project.

The independent auditor’s report states: “The original business case for the company was dependent on revenue from public sector services which the directors do not believe are viable under current conditions. With the business proposition no longer viable, the company has been unable to secure additional funding to continue to support the activities of the business.”

But the cabinet member briefing note which approved the original loan in October 2009, says the viability of the concern was not reliant on exporting the business model to other councils.

It says: “Beyond year two, the projected net profit is circa £700,000 per year. This does not include any projections from exporting the business model to other councils.”

A cabinet report in March 2010 into the failure of the pilot in Highworth, says: “The delay in having a fully operational ‘back-office’ customer care and billing operation has hindered oppor-tunities to sell.”

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9:35am Tue 30 Apr 13

StillPav says...

The story isn't clear, but it implies that Hunt received £12,000 a month as CE of Digital City IN ADDITION to his consultancy receiving £105,067 in fees - or am I reading it wrong?

I think the only way out of this for the council and particular Perkins is complete disclousure of where every penny went.

Perkins saying "that he had provided more detail than the director of a private company would" is not satisfactory in my opinion, because a private company would typically be funded with money from the directors, whereas this shenanigans was funded by the taxpayer and therefore disclosure should be similar to what is required of a publically owned company.
The story isn't clear, but it implies that Hunt received £12,000 a month as CE of Digital City IN ADDITION to his consultancy receiving £105,067 in fees - or am I reading it wrong? I think the only way out of this for the council and particular Perkins is complete disclousure of where every penny went. Perkins saying "that he had provided more detail than the director of a private company would" is not satisfactory in my opinion, because a private company would typically be funded with money from the directors, whereas this shenanigans was funded by the taxpayer and therefore disclosure should be similar to what is required of a publically owned company. StillPav
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9:49am Tue 30 Apr 13

Ringer says...


£16,000 on billing, collections and debt management.

For a company with a turnover of just £5000?

The 'management' in charge of Digital City will surely never work again.

Mr Hunt has also fallen into the very unwise trap of believing his own hype. Just because he may have been paid c.£100,000 in previous roles, it does not mean he 'deserved' £12,000 per month to head up a company with a - frankly laughable - £5000 turnover.

As for why the project failed, ask anyone with a Smartphone. Mobile internet access is quick and easy to obtain and costs next to nothing. When you also take into account the free Wi-Fi offered in many shops, pubs, restaurants and hotels, there was simply never going to be any demand for Digital City's offering (not that they ever really offered anything in any case!)
[quote] £16,000 on billing, collections and debt management. [/quote] For a company with a turnover of just £5000? [p] The 'management' in charge of Digital City will surely never work again. [p] Mr Hunt has also fallen into the very unwise trap of believing his own hype. Just because he may have been paid c.£100,000 in previous roles, it does not mean he 'deserved' £12,000 per month to head up a company with a - frankly laughable - £5000 turnover. [p] As for why the project failed, ask anyone with a Smartphone. Mobile internet access is quick and easy to obtain and costs next to nothing. When you also take into account the free Wi-Fi offered in many shops, pubs, restaurants and hotels, there was simply never going to be any demand for Digital City's offering (not that they ever really offered anything in any case!) Ringer
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9:52am Tue 30 Apr 13

Always Grumpy says...

It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible.
Perhaps the fraud squad should be involved in this debacle and if necessary followed up with prosecutions.
It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible. Perhaps the fraud squad should be involved in this debacle and if necessary followed up with prosecutions. Always Grumpy
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10:05am Tue 30 Apr 13

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Ringer wrote:

£16,000 on billing, collections and debt management.

For a company with a turnover of just £5000?

The 'management' in charge of Digital City will surely never work again.

Mr Hunt has also fallen into the very unwise trap of believing his own hype. Just because he may have been paid c.£100,000 in previous roles, it does not mean he 'deserved' £12,000 per month to head up a company with a - frankly laughable - £5000 turnover.

As for why the project failed, ask anyone with a Smartphone. Mobile internet access is quick and easy to obtain and costs next to nothing. When you also take into account the free Wi-Fi offered in many shops, pubs, restaurants and hotels, there was simply never going to be any demand for Digital City's offering (not that they ever really offered anything in any case!)
Precisely. Anyone with even a modicum of technical knowledge could see this is exactly what was going to happen. It would never have been funded by private investors, they would have done due diligence and realised that the 'service' being offered was duplicating existing services but with a worse coverage. It was doomed to fail from the very first thought of the idea.

I still find it incredible that this council chose to do business with an individual known to be a bankrupt, and even chose to do "business mentoring" with someone that is very obviously not capable of running a business.

So, given the outcome, I have to believe that either

1) the council officers that approved this are grossly incompetent (in which case they should not be in such positions of responsibility and if they had any integrity would resign), or

2) they are corrupt and using public funds to suit their friends (in which case they should be investigated for fraud).

Which is it?
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote] £16,000 on billing, collections and debt management. [/quote] For a company with a turnover of just £5000? [p] The 'management' in charge of Digital City will surely never work again. [p] Mr Hunt has also fallen into the very unwise trap of believing his own hype. Just because he may have been paid c.£100,000 in previous roles, it does not mean he 'deserved' £12,000 per month to head up a company with a - frankly laughable - £5000 turnover. [p] As for why the project failed, ask anyone with a Smartphone. Mobile internet access is quick and easy to obtain and costs next to nothing. When you also take into account the free Wi-Fi offered in many shops, pubs, restaurants and hotels, there was simply never going to be any demand for Digital City's offering (not that they ever really offered anything in any case!)[/p][/quote]Precisely. Anyone with even a modicum of technical knowledge could see this is exactly what was going to happen. It would never have been funded by private investors, they would have done due diligence and realised that the 'service' being offered was duplicating existing services but with a worse coverage. It was doomed to fail from the very first thought of the idea. I still find it incredible that this council chose to do business with an individual known to be a bankrupt, and even chose to do "business mentoring" with someone that is very obviously not capable of running a business. So, given the outcome, I have to believe that either 1) the council officers that approved this are grossly incompetent (in which case they should not be in such positions of responsibility and if they had any integrity would resign), or 2) they are corrupt and using public funds to suit their friends (in which case they should be investigated for fraud). Which is it? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
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10:25am Tue 30 Apr 13

peatmoor pirate says...

Someone must be able to get to the bottom of this. It's either fraud, in which case the police should be involved; mis-use of public money, in which case, surely there is a statutory body (Public Accounts Committee perhaps, Local Government Ombudsmen perhaps?) or absolutely appalling management, in which case Perkins and any other publicly elected official invloved in this should resign their position. As others have said, it is no good Perkins saying he's divulged more than he would as a Private Company Director, it wasn't his money, it was public money - that's not good enough.
Someone must be able to get to the bottom of this. It's either fraud, in which case the police should be involved; mis-use of public money, in which case, surely there is a statutory body (Public Accounts Committee perhaps, Local Government Ombudsmen perhaps?) or absolutely appalling management, in which case Perkins and any other publicly elected official invloved in this should resign their position. As others have said, it is no good Perkins saying he's divulged more than he would as a Private Company Director, it wasn't his money, it was public money - that's not good enough. peatmoor pirate
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10:55am Tue 30 Apr 13

swindon_mini says...

Every time I read about Rikki Hunt it makes my blood boil.
In my opinion the guy is just an "Opportunist" and a very good one at that! The £450k could have been for anything, not just WiFi and he would have wangled his way in somehow.
Let’s take his CV. He talks about being the youngest MD of a British Fuel Company. Namely Burmah Petroleum Fuel Ltd. Which is true, but don’t get taken in by the Famous Swindon(ish) Oil Company with a similar name. Burmah Castrol Limited. They are not connected in anyway and the former is just a distributor, where as the later is a conglomerate.
Then lets take Swindon Town Football Club, Rikki was the first Chairman in its history to bankrupt the club, whilst at the same time drawing a wage.
Then Brunel FM, remember that? The bankrupted Radio Station.
Various other clothing and Property companies, all insolvent now.
Then there is Digital City. We all know the story behind that.
He now sells his experience as a “Successful” business man to wannabe start-ups, little do they know about this man. I wouldn’t be surprised if he next business was selling bomb detectors!
Every time I read about Rikki Hunt it makes my blood boil. In my opinion the guy is just an "Opportunist" and a very good one at that! The £450k could have been for anything, not just WiFi and he would have wangled his way in somehow. Let’s take his CV. He talks about being the youngest MD of a British Fuel Company. Namely Burmah Petroleum Fuel Ltd. Which is true, but don’t get taken in by the Famous Swindon(ish) Oil Company with a similar name. Burmah Castrol Limited. They are not connected in anyway and the former is just a distributor, where as the later is a conglomerate. Then lets take Swindon Town Football Club, Rikki was the first Chairman in its history to bankrupt the club, whilst at the same time drawing a wage. Then Brunel FM, remember that? The bankrupted Radio Station. Various other clothing and Property companies, all insolvent now. Then there is Digital City. We all know the story behind that. He now sells his experience as a “Successful” business man to wannabe start-ups, little do they know about this man. I wouldn’t be surprised if he next business was selling bomb detectors! swindon_mini
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11:05am Tue 30 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Seems like some pretty dodgy goings on to me. Criminal investigations should be initiated to get to the bottom of it.

Where was Blur in all this?
Seems like some pretty dodgy goings on to me. Criminal investigations should be initiated to get to the bottom of it. Where was Blur in all this? LordAshOfTheBrake
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11:15am Tue 30 Apr 13

Nostim says...

Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money.

The whole of this tory administration should resign
Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money. The whole of this tory administration should resign Nostim
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11:27am Tue 30 Apr 13

Ringer says...


The whole of this tory administration should resign

Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.
[quote] The whole of this tory administration should resign [/quote] Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants. Ringer
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11:44am Tue 30 Apr 13

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Ringer wrote:

The whole of this tory administration should resign

Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.
Just one point, just because one Tory administration resigns, does not mean that a labour administration would automatically get in. A different Tory administration *could* get voted in...

In any case, they don't exactly have a huge majority now - at the next elections I think the existing Tory administration may have a few troubles...
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote] The whole of this tory administration should resign [/quote] Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.[/p][/quote]Just one point, just because one Tory administration resigns, does not mean that a labour administration would automatically get in. A different Tory administration *could* get voted in... In any case, they don't exactly have a huge majority now - at the next elections I think the existing Tory administration may have a few troubles... The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
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11:54am Tue 30 Apr 13

Davey Gravey says...

Ringer wrote:

The whole of this tory administration should resign

Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.
Speak for yourself.

Regarding the above issue a full independent enquiry is needed and if necessary criminal charges brought. It was public money wasted here.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote] The whole of this tory administration should resign [/quote] Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself. Regarding the above issue a full independent enquiry is needed and if necessary criminal charges brought. It was public money wasted here. Davey Gravey
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12:07pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible.
Perhaps the fraud squad should be involved in this debacle and if necessary followed up with prosecutions.
Why not ask the police to investigate then?
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible. Perhaps the fraud squad should be involved in this debacle and if necessary followed up with prosecutions.[/p][/quote]Why not ask the police to investigate then? itsamess3
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12:12pm Tue 30 Apr 13

A.Baron-Cohen says...

I wonder how much of the taxpayer's money ended up funding tory councillors campaigns?
I wonder how much of the taxpayer's money ended up funding tory councillors campaigns? A.Baron-Cohen
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12:24pm Tue 30 Apr 13

EastleazeRed says...

Isn't this the same Rikki Hunt that when director of SwindonTown football club , sent the then manager Steve Mc Mahon on one of his companies management training courses and then charged the club the sum of £50, 000 for the privilege ? Enough said !
Isn't this the same Rikki Hunt that when director of SwindonTown football club , sent the then manager Steve Mc Mahon on one of his companies management training courses and then charged the club the sum of £50, 000 for the privilege ? Enough said ! EastleazeRed
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12:29pm Tue 30 Apr 13

AdderB says...

Some while back Rod Bluh claimed Swindon council would get back £450K they lost on the failed WIFI project.

Unless I missed something , it has not be paid back.

No wonder Rod Bluh resigned in a fanfare of publicity saying how marvellous he had been.

Any chance of our money back please Rod and Ricki ? .

This whole farce is a fraud and should be seen as such.
Some while back Rod Bluh claimed Swindon council would get back £450K they lost on the failed WIFI project. Unless I missed something , it has not be paid back. No wonder Rod Bluh resigned in a fanfare of publicity saying how marvellous he had been. Any chance of our money back please Rod and Ricki ? . This whole farce is a fraud and should be seen as such. AdderB
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12:50pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Morsey says...

Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility?

Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did!
Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility? Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did! Morsey
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1:05pm Tue 30 Apr 13

MarksDad says...

The coaching to council officers given to assist the move to an 'arms length company', 'which actually is a 'wholly owned subsidary' was arranged by the MD os SCS following a period when Rikki Hunt wason the interim board.

It has to be said that it was a regurgatation of very old an outdated material , delivered by a foul mouthed individual that Rikki Hunt is. He alienated many of the attendees.

It was not useful and I know many of the participants complained about his conduct and the content at the time.

Money for old rope comes to mind.
The coaching to council officers given to assist the move to an 'arms length company', 'which actually is a 'wholly owned subsidary' was arranged by the MD os SCS following a period when Rikki Hunt wason the interim board. It has to be said that it was a regurgatation of very old an outdated material , delivered by a foul mouthed individual that Rikki Hunt is. He alienated many of the attendees. It was not useful and I know many of the participants complained about his conduct and the content at the time. Money for old rope comes to mind. MarksDad
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1:13pm Tue 30 Apr 13

house on the hill says...

This is probably just the tip of a very big and unsavory iceberg, but who wants to bet they will get away with it? Discraceful and unsurprising which speaks volumes!
This is probably just the tip of a very big and unsavory iceberg, but who wants to bet they will get away with it? Discraceful and unsurprising which speaks volumes! house on the hill
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1:29pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Ringer says...

Morsey wrote:
Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility?

Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did!
I'm afraid that nobody, but nobody, gambled with the nation's finances more than Blair & Brown.

Labour politicians, both nationally and locally, have all proven, time and time again, that they cannot be responsible with our money.

Hence the reason we're currently facing the economic and financial disaster left behind by the last Labour government.
[quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote: Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility? Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did![/p][/quote]I'm afraid that nobody, but nobody, gambled with the nation's finances more than Blair & Brown. [p] Labour politicians, both nationally and locally, have all proven, time and time again, that they cannot be responsible with our money. [p] Hence the reason we're currently facing the economic and financial disaster left behind by the last Labour government. Ringer
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1:53pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Bert of Bassett says...

Nostim wrote:
Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money.

The whole of this tory administration should resign
It was pretty obvious from existing technology and Mr Hunt's record with STFC that this was never going to work.

The stupidity and ignorance are wholly the fault of the members of SBC who insisted on using local taxpayers money for this nonsense

I have no idea why people want to confuse this local corruption with national politics
[quote][p][bold]Nostim[/bold] wrote: Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money. The whole of this tory administration should resign[/p][/quote]It was pretty obvious from existing technology and Mr Hunt's record with STFC that this was never going to work. The stupidity and ignorance are wholly the fault of the members of SBC who insisted on using local taxpayers money for this nonsense I have no idea why people want to confuse this local corruption with national politics Bert of Bassett
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2:11pm Tue 30 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Nostim wrote:
Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money.

The whole of this tory administration should resign
Was it only the Tory's at the time who backed the project?

Surely it should be ANY Councillor who was in favour of the project at the time that should be resigning.
[quote][p][bold]Nostim[/bold] wrote: Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money. The whole of this tory administration should resign[/p][/quote]Was it only the Tory's at the time who backed the project? Surely it should be ANY Councillor who was in favour of the project at the time that should be resigning. LordAshOfTheBrake
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2:24pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Bert of Bassett says...

LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
Nostim wrote:
Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money.

The whole of this tory administration should resign
Was it only the Tory's at the time who backed the project?

Surely it should be ANY Councillor who was in favour of the project at the time that should be resigning.
Well....

As councilor Perkins decided it was a worthy enterprise to become a director of it, he should be pretty high in the resignation stakes.

Which party is he a local candidate of
[quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nostim[/bold] wrote: Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money. The whole of this tory administration should resign[/p][/quote]Was it only the Tory's at the time who backed the project? Surely it should be ANY Councillor who was in favour of the project at the time that should be resigning.[/p][/quote]Well.... As councilor Perkins decided it was a worthy enterprise to become a director of it, he should be pretty high in the resignation stakes. Which party is he a local candidate of Bert of Bassett
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2:48pm Tue 30 Apr 13

candid friend says...

This stinks. RH has been circling the Council for years looking for a mug who would allow him to rip off the ratepayers.
He obviously found several mugs amongst the leadership of the Tory Group and suspect officers.
Why has no one been prosecuted, or dismissed without compensation?
This is a giant cover up. The truth will only be revealed when Labour get control and open to books to public examination.
It highlights the problems of gullible councillors getting too close to con men .
This charlatan was even mentoring sen ior officers!
It is unbelievable!
This stinks. RH has been circling the Council for years looking for a mug who would allow him to rip off the ratepayers. He obviously found several mugs amongst the leadership of the Tory Group and suspect officers. Why has no one been prosecuted, or dismissed without compensation? This is a giant cover up. The truth will only be revealed when Labour get control and open to books to public examination. It highlights the problems of gullible councillors getting too close to con men . This charlatan was even mentoring sen ior officers! It is unbelievable! candid friend
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2:51pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
I wonder how much of the taxpayer's money ended up funding tory councillors campaigns?
Does the story mention that, or are you just unable to grasp what is going on, as usual?
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much of the taxpayer's money ended up funding tory councillors campaigns?[/p][/quote]Does the story mention that, or are you just unable to grasp what is going on, as usual? Always Grumpy
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3:06pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Ringer wrote:
Morsey wrote:
Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility?

Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did!
I'm afraid that nobody, but nobody, gambled with the nation's finances more than Blair & Brown.

Labour politicians, both nationally and locally, have all proven, time and time again, that they cannot be responsible with our money.

Hence the reason we're currently facing the economic and financial disaster left behind by the last Labour government.
You cant blame this mess on labour can you Ringer /Tim.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote: Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility? Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did![/p][/quote]I'm afraid that nobody, but nobody, gambled with the nation's finances more than Blair & Brown. [p] Labour politicians, both nationally and locally, have all proven, time and time again, that they cannot be responsible with our money. [p] Hence the reason we're currently facing the economic and financial disaster left behind by the last Labour government.[/p][/quote]You cant blame this mess on labour can you Ringer /Tim. itsamess3
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3:08pm Tue 30 Apr 13

RichardR1 says...

I understand the shares he failed to declare had something to do with the Supermarine complex, nice to see someone dobbed him in, having his bankruptcy extended must have really put him out.
I understand the shares he failed to declare had something to do with the Supermarine complex, nice to see someone dobbed him in, having his bankruptcy extended must have really put him out. RichardR1
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3:11pm Tue 30 Apr 13

nigelej says...

Ringer wrote:

The whole of this tory administration should resign

Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.
I don't think you can say on one wants . I'm sure when people see this there not going to have to much confidence in this bunch . Problem is councilers and politicians all seem to be either liers or currupt and I think our younger generation have lost faith and trust in any of them . I personally wouldn't want to say I'm happy with any of them . Any other business would have had the fraud squad in by now .
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote] The whole of this tory administration should resign [/quote] Let's hope not, that might mean we'd end up with a Labour controlled council. Something that nobody wants.[/p][/quote]I don't think you can say on one wants . I'm sure when people see this there not going to have to much confidence in this bunch . Problem is councilers and politicians all seem to be either liers or currupt and I think our younger generation have lost faith and trust in any of them . I personally wouldn't want to say I'm happy with any of them . Any other business would have had the fraud squad in by now . nigelej
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3:31pm Tue 30 Apr 13

female resident says...

This on the same day of reports there may no longer be funding for the Wyvern or Arts Centre. Makes you weep. Harold Joliffe will be turning in his grave.
This on the same day of reports there may no longer be funding for the Wyvern or Arts Centre. Makes you weep. Harold Joliffe will be turning in his grave. female resident
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3:52pm Tue 30 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Bert of Bassett wrote:
LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
Nostim wrote:
Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money.

The whole of this tory administration should resign
Was it only the Tory's at the time who backed the project?

Surely it should be ANY Councillor who was in favour of the project at the time that should be resigning.
Well....

As councilor Perkins decided it was a worthy enterprise to become a director of it, he should be pretty high in the resignation stakes.

Which party is he a local candidate of
Absolutely I'd agree his position is untenable.

However it should also apply to any Councillors of the time who were in favour. If only because they failed in their care and duty to monitor the business.
[quote][p][bold]Bert of Bassett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nostim[/bold] wrote: Does the picture at the start of this article not say it all. Money money Money. The whole of this tory administration should resign[/p][/quote]Was it only the Tory's at the time who backed the project? Surely it should be ANY Councillor who was in favour of the project at the time that should be resigning.[/p][/quote]Well.... As councilor Perkins decided it was a worthy enterprise to become a director of it, he should be pretty high in the resignation stakes. Which party is he a local candidate of[/p][/quote]Absolutely I'd agree his position is untenable. However it should also apply to any Councillors of the time who were in favour. If only because they failed in their care and duty to monitor the business. LordAshOfTheBrake
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3:53pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Eastleaze
Lesson being--dont make claims unless you know how to deal with them.
Eastleaze Lesson being--dont make claims unless you know how to deal with them. itsamess3
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3:58pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Wellfire says...

swindon_mini wrote:
Every time I read about Rikki Hunt it makes my blood boil.
In my opinion the guy is just an "Opportunist" and a very good one at that! The £450k could have been for anything, not just WiFi and he would have wangled his way in somehow.
Let’s take his CV. He talks about being the youngest MD of a British Fuel Company. Namely Burmah Petroleum Fuel Ltd. Which is true, but don’t get taken in by the Famous Swindon(ish) Oil Company with a similar name. Burmah Castrol Limited. They are not connected in anyway and the former is just a distributor, where as the later is a conglomerate.
Then lets take Swindon Town Football Club, Rikki was the first Chairman in its history to bankrupt the club, whilst at the same time drawing a wage.
Then Brunel FM, remember that? The bankrupted Radio Station.
Various other clothing and Property companies, all insolvent now.
Then there is Digital City. We all know the story behind that.
He now sells his experience as a “Successful” business man to wannabe start-ups, little do they know about this man. I wouldn’t be surprised if he next business was selling bomb detectors!
Just to correct you, the Burmah Petroluem Fuel Ltd of which Mr Hunt was a director was wholly owned by Burmah Castrol. Burmah pulled out of oil refining in the early 80s - that's when I left them - and their petrol stations were supplied from then onwards by purchases from other refiners. Many of my former colleagues worked under Mr. Hunt - I never did - and opinions were mixed, to say the least. He was never the 'oil tycoon' he was sometimes portrayed. He was a divisional director at Burmah but was never on the main board.

Later in my career I spent some years analysing investment opportunities for a group of private investors, some of whom are well known names. They would never have invested in Digital City, and I would never have recommended that they do. One of my routine tasks when the investors showed interest was to look at the books, determine who was being paid for what and the authorisations for it. It is basic due diligence. For Mr. Perkins to say that he assumed it had been agreed isn't good enough. He was there to safeguard the Council's (i.e. the council tax payers) interests. It was not his business to assume anything.
[quote][p][bold]swindon_mini[/bold] wrote: Every time I read about Rikki Hunt it makes my blood boil. In my opinion the guy is just an "Opportunist" and a very good one at that! The £450k could have been for anything, not just WiFi and he would have wangled his way in somehow. Let’s take his CV. He talks about being the youngest MD of a British Fuel Company. Namely Burmah Petroleum Fuel Ltd. Which is true, but don’t get taken in by the Famous Swindon(ish) Oil Company with a similar name. Burmah Castrol Limited. They are not connected in anyway and the former is just a distributor, where as the later is a conglomerate. Then lets take Swindon Town Football Club, Rikki was the first Chairman in its history to bankrupt the club, whilst at the same time drawing a wage. Then Brunel FM, remember that? The bankrupted Radio Station. Various other clothing and Property companies, all insolvent now. Then there is Digital City. We all know the story behind that. He now sells his experience as a “Successful” business man to wannabe start-ups, little do they know about this man. I wouldn’t be surprised if he next business was selling bomb detectors![/p][/quote]Just to correct you, the Burmah Petroluem Fuel Ltd of which Mr Hunt was a director was wholly owned by Burmah Castrol. Burmah pulled out of oil refining in the early 80s - that's when I left them - and their petrol stations were supplied from then onwards by purchases from other refiners. Many of my former colleagues worked under Mr. Hunt - I never did - and opinions were mixed, to say the least. He was never the 'oil tycoon' he was sometimes portrayed. He was a divisional director at Burmah but was never on the main board. Later in my career I spent some years analysing investment opportunities for a group of private investors, some of whom are well known names. They would never have invested in Digital City, and I would never have recommended that they do. One of my routine tasks when the investors showed interest was to look at the books, determine who was being paid for what and the authorisations for it. It is basic due diligence. For Mr. Perkins to say that he assumed it had been agreed isn't good enough. He was there to safeguard the Council's (i.e. the council tax payers) interests. It was not his business to assume anything. Wellfire
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4:20pm Tue 30 Apr 13

EastleazeRed says...

itsamess3 wrote:
Eastleaze
Lesson being--dont make claims unless you know how to deal with them.
:-D
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: Eastleaze Lesson being--dont make claims unless you know how to deal with them.[/p][/quote]:-D EastleazeRed
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4:22pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Wellfire
With respect--you would have had great difficulty looking at the councils books--well covered in public law.
Wellfire With respect--you would have had great difficulty looking at the councils books--well covered in public law. itsamess3
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5:07pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Ringer says...

itsamess3 wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Morsey wrote:
Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility?

Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did!
I'm afraid that nobody, but nobody, gambled with the nation's finances more than Blair & Brown.

Labour politicians, both nationally and locally, have all proven, time and time again, that they cannot be responsible with our money.

Hence the reason we're currently facing the economic and financial disaster left behind by the last Labour government.
You cant blame this mess on labour can you Ringer /Tim.
I hadn't tried to.

Why, can you blame it on Labour?
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote: Has Bluh stepped down because he knows the sh1t is going to hit the fan soon? Will Perkins pick up total responsibility? Incidentally, Labour politicians here don't appear to have 'big noises' in the corridors waiting to con them like the current inadequate Tory crowd, who have managed to totally hoodwink so many Swindon residents as they play with / gamble with finances just like the crooked bankers did![/p][/quote]I'm afraid that nobody, but nobody, gambled with the nation's finances more than Blair & Brown. [p] Labour politicians, both nationally and locally, have all proven, time and time again, that they cannot be responsible with our money. [p] Hence the reason we're currently facing the economic and financial disaster left behind by the last Labour government.[/p][/quote]You cant blame this mess on labour can you Ringer /Tim.[/p][/quote]I hadn't tried to. [p] Why, can you blame it on Labour? Ringer
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5:18pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.
I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light. itsamess3
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5:39pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Bert of Bassett says...

itsamess3 wrote:
I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.
I'm guessing that councilor Perkins is a tory then.

Bizarre that he didn't realise Mr Hunt was being paid

Some director
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing that councilor Perkins is a tory then. Bizarre that he didn't realise Mr Hunt was being paid Some director Bert of Bassett
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6:02pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Hmmmf says...

On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.
On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain. Hmmmf
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6:11pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Empty Car Park says...

Hmmmf wrote:
On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.
That's not really the same topic though is it
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.[/p][/quote]That's not really the same topic though is it Empty Car Park
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6:17pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Hmmmf wrote:
On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.
Absolutely--will make no difference though.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.[/p][/quote]Absolutely--will make no difference though. itsamess3
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6:33pm Tue 30 Apr 13

whaddahey?! says...

Resignations HAVE to follow this absolute farce. To have utterly wasted so much money at a tim when services are being cut, due to nothing else but sheer incompetance shows the councilors involved are simply unfit to servce.
Resignations HAVE to follow this absolute farce. To have utterly wasted so much money at a tim when services are being cut, due to nothing else but sheer incompetance shows the councilors involved are simply unfit to servce. whaddahey?!
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6:33pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Hmmmf says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.
That's not really the same topic though is it
Well, yes it is. Certainly moreso than the party-political griping and ad hominems going on which you don't seem to be complaining about.

Most people here appear to think that spending £450k on a wireless network that didn't do anything useful was a waste of taxpayers' money.

I consider spending £100k on another wireless network which also won't do anything useful a waste of taxpayers' money.

See the topicality now?
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.[/p][/quote]That's not really the same topic though is it[/p][/quote]Well, yes it is. Certainly moreso than the party-political griping and ad hominems going on which you don't seem to be complaining about. Most people here appear to think that spending £450k on a wireless network that didn't do anything useful was a waste of taxpayers' money. I consider spending £100k on another wireless network which also won't do anything useful a waste of taxpayers' money. See the topicality now? Hmmmf
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6:47pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Always Grumpy says...

itsamess3 wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.
Absolutely--will make no difference though.
Of course, you know that for a certainty? Evidence please!
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.[/p][/quote]Absolutely--will make no difference though.[/p][/quote]Of course, you know that for a certainty? Evidence please! Always Grumpy
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6:57pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Wellfire says...

itsamess3 wrote:
Wellfire
With respect--you would have had great difficulty looking at the councils books--well covered in public law.
Why would I need to look at the council's books had I been looking at Digital City on behalf of a group of private investors?

Why would Mr. Perkins need to look at the council's books to determine who was being paid at Digital City? This should be a matter of record in Digital City's books.
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: Wellfire With respect--you would have had great difficulty looking at the councils books--well covered in public law.[/p][/quote]Why would I need to look at the council's books had I been looking at Digital City on behalf of a group of private investors? Why would Mr. Perkins need to look at the council's books to determine who was being paid at Digital City? This should be a matter of record in Digital City's books. Wellfire
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7:14pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Wellfire that's being evasive--these things are a matter of public record--so do tell why these questions have not been answered--and why a poster claims corruption.
Wellfire that's being evasive--these things are a matter of public record--so do tell why these questions have not been answered--and why a poster claims corruption. itsamess3
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7:57pm Tue 30 Apr 13

house on the hill says...

Are we likely to get back on topic anytime soon or is this the Jeremy Kyle show!
Are we likely to get back on topic anytime soon or is this the Jeremy Kyle show! house on the hill
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8:27pm Tue 30 Apr 13

swindon_mini says...

house on the hill wrote:
Are we likely to get back on topic anytime soon or is this the Jeremy Kyle show!
Jerry, jerry, jerry. Sorry wrong show;)
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: Are we likely to get back on topic anytime soon or is this the Jeremy Kyle show![/p][/quote]Jerry, jerry, jerry. Sorry wrong show;) swindon_mini
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8:34pm Tue 30 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Given that Perkins appears to claim ignorance as to the goings on at Digital City and that he is also a director of Swindon Commercial Services which also handles a large amount of council tax payers money, questions should be asked about his role as a director in that organisation too.

http://companycheck.
co.uk/director/90309
4488#current-appoint
ments
Given that Perkins appears to claim ignorance as to the goings on at Digital City and that he is also a director of Swindon Commercial Services which also handles a large amount of council tax payers money, questions should be asked about his role as a director in that organisation too. http://companycheck. co.uk/director/90309 4488#current-appoint ments LordAshOfTheBrake
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8:54pm Tue 30 Apr 13

house on the hill says...

Is that not a conflict of interest that he is a director of a company wholly owned by SBC and who share in its profits so have a vested interest in pushing council contracts their way. If it isn't legally then it's very dodgy at the very least. The smell at the civic is as bad as the one at waterside.
Is that not a conflict of interest that he is a director of a company wholly owned by SBC and who share in its profits so have a vested interest in pushing council contracts their way. If it isn't legally then it's very dodgy at the very least. The smell at the civic is as bad as the one at waterside. house on the hill
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9:16pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Ringer says...

itsamess3 wrote:
I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.
Again, you're merely highlighting your own inability to both read and understand simple English language.

I have no 'love' for the Tories, I just happen to support anyone who has the best chance of keeping Labour from getting anywhere near power - be that at local or national level.

And if you really want to talk about 'blame', yes, I do very much blame the Labour government for the squandering of billions upon billions of our money and saddling all of us, and our children, with an insurmountable level of debt and interest repayments. In light of that, a bunch of local half-wits giving away £450k to a snakeoil salesman provides barely a snigger.
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.[/p][/quote]Again, you're merely highlighting your own inability to both read and understand simple English language. [p] I have no 'love' for the Tories, I just happen to support anyone who has the best chance of keeping Labour from getting anywhere near power - be that at local or national level. [p] And if you really want to talk about 'blame', yes, I do very much blame the Labour government for the squandering of billions upon billions of our money and saddling all of us, and our children, with an insurmountable level of debt and interest repayments. In light of that, a bunch of local half-wits giving away £450k to a snakeoil salesman provides barely a snigger. Ringer
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9:44pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Empty Car Park says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.
That's not really the same topic though is it
Well, yes it is. Certainly moreso than the party-political griping and ad hominems going on which you don't seem to be complaining about.

Most people here appear to think that spending £450k on a wireless network that didn't do anything useful was a waste of taxpayers' money.

I consider spending £100k on another wireless network which also won't do anything useful a waste of taxpayers' money.

See the topicality now?
Yes, I see what you mean.

Agree with your point about the political cloak and dagger nonsense to.

The only relevance is that any corruption and incompetence needs to be flushed out

It should be investigated from the top.
Particularly leading / cabinet members

The rot needs to be stopped
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: On the upside, we're getting a shiny new 4G LTE CCTV camera hookup soon to 'robustly' look at the town centre, all for just 100k! Bargain.[/p][/quote]That's not really the same topic though is it[/p][/quote]Well, yes it is. Certainly moreso than the party-political griping and ad hominems going on which you don't seem to be complaining about. Most people here appear to think that spending £450k on a wireless network that didn't do anything useful was a waste of taxpayers' money. I consider spending £100k on another wireless network which also won't do anything useful a waste of taxpayers' money. See the topicality now?[/p][/quote]Yes, I see what you mean. Agree with your point about the political cloak and dagger nonsense to. The only relevance is that any corruption and incompetence needs to be flushed out It should be investigated from the top. Particularly leading / cabinet members The rot needs to be stopped Empty Car Park
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9:58pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

Ringer wrote:
itsamess3 wrote:
I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.
Again, you're merely highlighting your own inability to both read and understand simple English language.

I have no 'love' for the Tories, I just happen to support anyone who has the best chance of keeping Labour from getting anywhere near power - be that at local or national level.

And if you really want to talk about 'blame', yes, I do very much blame the Labour government for the squandering of billions upon billions of our money and saddling all of us, and our children, with an insurmountable level of debt and interest repayments. In light of that, a bunch of local half-wits giving away £450k to a snakeoil salesman provides barely a snigger.
On a loser then Tim
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: I don't blame it on anyone in particular--but it does show your beloved tories in a very bad light.[/p][/quote]Again, you're merely highlighting your own inability to both read and understand simple English language. [p] I have no 'love' for the Tories, I just happen to support anyone who has the best chance of keeping Labour from getting anywhere near power - be that at local or national level. [p] And if you really want to talk about 'blame', yes, I do very much blame the Labour government for the squandering of billions upon billions of our money and saddling all of us, and our children, with an insurmountable level of debt and interest repayments. In light of that, a bunch of local half-wits giving away £450k to a snakeoil salesman provides barely a snigger.[/p][/quote]On a loser then Tim itsamess3
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10:18pm Tue 30 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

house on the hill wrote:
Is that not a conflict of interest that he is a director of a company wholly owned by SBC and who share in its profits so have a vested interest in pushing council contracts their way. If it isn't legally then it's very dodgy at the very least. The smell at the civic is as bad as the one at waterside.
I would think so too. At least there are more than 2 directors in that company so there should be some additional checks and balances.

With Digital City it looks as though there were just the 2 of them.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: Is that not a conflict of interest that he is a director of a company wholly owned by SBC and who share in its profits so have a vested interest in pushing council contracts their way. If it isn't legally then it's very dodgy at the very least. The smell at the civic is as bad as the one at waterside.[/p][/quote]I would think so too. At least there are more than 2 directors in that company so there should be some additional checks and balances. With Digital City it looks as though there were just the 2 of them. LordAshOfTheBrake
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11:13pm Tue 30 Apr 13

itsamess3 says...

A.G.
Yes yes--but do tell us how you plan to prove your claim.
A.G. Yes yes--but do tell us how you plan to prove your claim. itsamess3
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11:30pm Tue 30 Apr 13

http://Www.Swindon.Org.UK says...

The 'Swindon MonoRail' wi-fiasko is never going to be explained properly because not many people in Swindon care enough about bollocktics to pay it any attention.

The next DC is the Oasis which has been given away to new companies just like DC and aQovia with no proper track records.
As for ScS it only works for SBC it only a 'private' company so they could get rid of the staff and cut cost of future pensions.
The work it does is often poor, rushed and never quite finished.

Rather than send things to the police who never seem interested in crime unless there's a TV crew about, they should send it to Melinda Messenger, Crime stoppers, etc..
If DC was brought up in the house of Commons in 2009 and nothing happened I doubt anything will happen in any nimber of SBC meetings.
it needs a Panorama or similar.
The 'Swindon MonoRail' wi-fiasko is never going to be explained properly because not many people in Swindon care enough about bollocktics to pay it any attention. The next DC is the Oasis which has been given away to new companies just like DC and aQovia with no proper track records. As for ScS it only works for SBC it only a 'private' company so they could get rid of the staff and cut cost of future pensions. The work it does is often poor, rushed and never quite finished. Rather than send things to the police who never seem interested in crime unless there's a TV crew about, they should send it to Melinda Messenger, Crime stoppers, etc.. If DC was brought up in the house of Commons in 2009 and nothing happened I doubt anything will happen in any nimber of SBC meetings. it needs a Panorama or similar. http://Www.Swindon.Org.UK
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7:26am Wed 1 May 13

Ringer says...

itsamess3 wrote:
A.G.
Yes yes--but do tell us how you plan to prove your claim.
That's rich, you NEVER back up any of your claims, EVER.
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: A.G. Yes yes--but do tell us how you plan to prove your claim.[/p][/quote]That's rich, you NEVER back up any of your claims, EVER. Ringer
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7:42am Wed 1 May 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

itsamess3 wrote:
A.G.
Yes yes--but do tell us how you plan to prove your claim.
He never made a claim. He voiced an opinion.

The exact quote from AG was "It all smacks of corruption"......

For someone who bleats on about their superiority you do have a track record of not reading what is actually written properly and not backing up your own claims.
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: A.G. Yes yes--but do tell us how you plan to prove your claim.[/p][/quote]He never made a claim. He voiced an opinion. The exact quote from AG was "It all smacks of corruption"...... For someone who bleats on about their superiority you do have a track record of not reading what is actually written properly and not backing up your own claims. LordAshOfTheBrake
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7:58am Wed 1 May 13

RichardR1 says...

'It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible.'

Sound familiar Mr Itsamess, I think anyone who understands just the tiniest bit of the English language would agree that Always Grumpy is making a general observation and not accusing anyone.

As for a police investigation, as I understand it, it has been reported several times to the police, and no further action was taken.
'It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible.' Sound familiar Mr Itsamess, I think anyone who understands just the tiniest bit of the English language would agree that Always Grumpy is making a general observation and not accusing anyone. As for a police investigation, as I understand it, it has been reported several times to the police, and no further action was taken. RichardR1
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8:09am Wed 1 May 13

itsamess3 says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible.
Perhaps the fraud squad should be involved in this debacle and if necessary followed up with prosecutions.
Just to repeat the complete words boys--always best to read all of it--not just part.
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: It all smacks of corruption - someone in Swindon Council should be held responsible. Perhaps the fraud squad should be involved in this debacle and if necessary followed up with prosecutions.[/p][/quote]Just to repeat the complete words boys--always best to read all of it--not just part. itsamess3
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8:54am Wed 1 May 13

I Could Do That says...

Apparently lead members, of the Tory administration at SBC, went on a misguided business venture.

They spent lots of taxpayers money on it.

When it wasn't going to plan, they could have listened to comments from the public or opposition members

Instead they offered and payed the 2nd investment of taxpayers money

The administration would have done better to admit mistakes earlier.

Now they seem to want to distance themselves from their blunder.
Unfortunately they still don't listen and will therefore continue with their blunders.

It is time for a big shakeup in the civic offices
Apparently lead members, of the Tory administration at SBC, went on a misguided business venture. They spent lots of taxpayers money on it. When it wasn't going to plan, they could have listened to comments from the public or opposition members Instead they offered and payed the 2nd investment of taxpayers money The administration would have done better to admit mistakes earlier. Now they seem to want to distance themselves from their blunder. Unfortunately they still don't listen and will therefore continue with their blunders. It is time for a big shakeup in the civic offices I Could Do That
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