LiveWiltshire Council elections 2013: Live

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Summary

  • The final state of the parties is:
  • Conservative 58 (59.18%)
  • Lib Dems 27 (27.55%)
  • Independent 7 (7.14%)
  • Labour 4 (4.08%)
  • UKIP 1 (1.02%)
  • Unknown 1 (1.02%)
  • Devizes Guardians 0
  • Green Party 0
  • The Conservatives have retained control of Wiltshire Council with more than two thirds of the results in.
  • UKIP performed worse than it expected with just one seat, in Melksham, so far
  • Devizes Guardians have lost their seats

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6:31pm Fri 3 May 13

Mike Hawkins says...

Happy that the Conservatives have retained control. However, considering the £millions they are spending on IT, what a pity this was not capable of providing the "election results" service they promised. Perhaps reviewing/scrapping IT dept is an area for further financial savings?
Happy that the Conservatives have retained control. However, considering the £millions they are spending on IT, what a pity this was not capable of providing the "election results" service they promised. Perhaps reviewing/scrapping IT dept is an area for further financial savings? Mike Hawkins
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10:36pm Fri 3 May 13

work.judy says...

I note there is no mention of the Parish or town elections here, and while Devizes Guardians have lost their county seats, all nine of their candidates won in Devizes Town Council election, thus giving them an overall majority and control of the Council.
I note there is no mention of the Parish or town elections here, and while Devizes Guardians have lost their county seats, all nine of their candidates won in Devizes Town Council election, thus giving them an overall majority and control of the Council. work.judy
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9:46am Sat 4 May 13

RichardR1 says...

Clearly not a good result for UKIP in Wiltshire, and it has to be said in most other West Country Counties compared with other counties.

However to have County Councillors is a step forward, and bodes well for the local and European elections next year.

Watching the results unfold yesterday I am minded to say the LibLabCon parties still don't get it.

With 1.25 million people voting for UKIP, gaining 139 County seats as well as retaining 8 others clearly shows next years EU elections will be a walk in the park for them.
Clearly not a good result for UKIP in Wiltshire, and it has to be said in most other West Country Counties compared with other counties. However to have County Councillors is a step forward, and bodes well for the local and European elections next year. Watching the results unfold yesterday I am minded to say the LibLabCon parties still don't get it. With 1.25 million people voting for UKIP, gaining 139 County seats as well as retaining 8 others clearly shows next years EU elections will be a walk in the park for them. RichardR1
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10:52am Sat 4 May 13

express_a_view says...

RichardR1 not so sure the Europeans will necessarily be a walk in the park - even though they will focus on UKIPs preferred area. As the saying goes "a week is a long time in politics" and things can change quickly. UKIP I think will be subject to more scrutiny and its policies examined in greater detail. Much will depend on the coherence of their programme. I think it is still too early to say whether UKIP will be a long term player or a short term protest vote. It is though intriguing politically.
RichardR1 not so sure the Europeans will necessarily be a walk in the park - even though they will focus on UKIPs preferred area. As the saying goes "a week is a long time in politics" and things can change quickly. UKIP I think will be subject to more scrutiny and its policies examined in greater detail. Much will depend on the coherence of their programme. I think it is still too early to say whether UKIP will be a long term player or a short term protest vote. It is though intriguing politically. express_a_view
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11:13am Sat 4 May 13

RichardR1 says...

That's what people have been saying since their inception but in half the time the Lib-Dems took (bearing in mind their Liberal base) UKIP have changed the landscape.

They were second in the EU's last time after being dismissed after the 2005 GE. They were predicted to win in 2014 EU's before this latest stunning achievement.

I think they will be here to stay. I agree they will be subject of far more scrutiny by the other parties than ever before but the Tories attempts as smearing them seriously backfired this time, and would gain. There is nothing the public hate more is the bully boys picking on the little kid on the block.

It also has to be said that the Tories especially are still in denial.

I wonder what our two resident Tory MP's will be feeling today. Let's not forget that UKIP's two PPC's last time round scored a greater percentage of the vote than the UKIP national average. Even a 10% UKIP vote in 2015 GE could mean both losing their seats.

It is time that they woke up to that reality.

If and it's a big if the Tories offer an in/out referendum in this Parliament ( the only way they will get a majority in the next GE), there will be no further need for UKIP as Britain will vote to leave.
That's what people have been saying since their inception but in half the time the Lib-Dems took (bearing in mind their Liberal base) UKIP have changed the landscape. They were second in the EU's last time after being dismissed after the 2005 GE. They were predicted to win in 2014 EU's before this latest stunning achievement. I think they will be here to stay. I agree they will be subject of far more scrutiny by the other parties than ever before but the Tories attempts as smearing them seriously backfired this time, and would gain. There is nothing the public hate more is the bully boys picking on the little kid on the block. It also has to be said that the Tories especially are still in denial. I wonder what our two resident Tory MP's will be feeling today. Let's not forget that UKIP's two PPC's last time round scored a greater percentage of the vote than the UKIP national average. Even a 10% UKIP vote in 2015 GE could mean both losing their seats. It is time that they woke up to that reality. If and it's a big if the Tories offer an in/out referendum in this Parliament ( the only way they will get a majority in the next GE), there will be no further need for UKIP as Britain will vote to leave. RichardR1
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12:37pm Sat 4 May 13

Pompey-Bound says...

RobFM looks like UKIP in this area are still suffering from the disastrous impact you had on them before you were ejected from the party! How do you feel?!
RobFM looks like UKIP in this area are still suffering from the disastrous impact you had on them before you were ejected from the party! How do you feel?! Pompey-Bound
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5:01pm Sat 4 May 13

house on the hill says...

The UKIP vote was a protest vote against the Tories and lib dems for those ho would never vote labour. I don't think anyone would really be stupid enough to vote for them at a general election, no policies beyond get out of Europe and stop immigration, no experience of governing, it would be the worst possible scenario. This is no surprise to anyone what happened.
The UKIP vote was a protest vote against the Tories and lib dems for those ho would never vote labour. I don't think anyone would really be stupid enough to vote for them at a general election, no policies beyond get out of Europe and stop immigration, no experience of governing, it would be the worst possible scenario. This is no surprise to anyone what happened. house on the hill
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1:58am Sun 5 May 13

beetawix says...

Mike Hawkins wrote:
Happy that the Conservatives have retained control. However, considering the £millions they are spending on IT, what a pity this was not capable of providing the "election results" service they promised. Perhaps reviewing/scrapping IT dept is an area for further financial savings?
I would have thought that IT spending had far wider considerations than a web election results service.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Hawkins[/bold] wrote: Happy that the Conservatives have retained control. However, considering the £millions they are spending on IT, what a pity this was not capable of providing the "election results" service they promised. Perhaps reviewing/scrapping IT dept is an area for further financial savings?[/p][/quote]I would have thought that IT spending had far wider considerations than a web election results service. beetawix
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11:33am Sun 5 May 13

RichardR1 says...

House if you had been watching the results unfold and the analysis of the results the BBC actual analysed the overall impact of UKIP against each of the main parties and whilst it's true to say they took most votes from the Tories. They also took double figure percentages from the other two parties.

As for your contention that the result was expected, far from it the main parties expected UKIP to take a handful of seats and even the best estimate was less than 50 by the pundits and media.

So ending up with a total 156 I think including unitary and town councillors was never envisaged by anyone.

I note Pompey's obsession continues, it is interesting that the failed politician publican seems to have such an impact on his life and that of the entire County of Wiltshire, he at least must be devil incarnate.

As for him not being a member I can tell you he has never been expelled and is very much still a member. I suggest you join the party just so you can have a look at the members forum. Ah but then you would have to identify yourself because the forum doesn't allow anonymous posters.
House if you had been watching the results unfold and the analysis of the results the BBC actual analysed the overall impact of UKIP against each of the main parties and whilst it's true to say they took most votes from the Tories. They also took double figure percentages from the other two parties. As for your contention that the result was expected, far from it the main parties expected UKIP to take a handful of seats and even the best estimate was less than 50 by the pundits and media. So ending up with a total 156 I think including unitary and town councillors was never envisaged by anyone. I note Pompey's obsession continues, it is interesting that the failed politician publican seems to have such an impact on his life and that of the entire County of Wiltshire, he at least must be devil incarnate. As for him not being a member I can tell you he has never been expelled and is very much still a member. I suggest you join the party just so you can have a look at the members forum. Ah but then you would have to identify yourself because the forum doesn't allow anonymous posters. RichardR1
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7:58pm Sun 5 May 13

house on the hill says...

I actually had better things to do with my life. Politics is a farce hence why we are in this mess and the votes go bank and forth. No one seems to have a clue what to do an spend their time having a go at the party in power without offering any viable alternative themselves. Short memories and knee jerk reactions from the electorate and the usual rubbish from politians. Sadly I can't get involved with politics as I am allergic to ****!
I actually had better things to do with my life. Politics is a farce hence why we are in this mess and the votes go bank and forth. No one seems to have a clue what to do an spend their time having a go at the party in power without offering any viable alternative themselves. Short memories and knee jerk reactions from the electorate and the usual rubbish from politians. Sadly I can't get involved with politics as I am allergic to ****! house on the hill
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10:39am Mon 6 May 13

Ringer says...

Very encouraging to see Labour so roundly thrashed at the ballot box.
Very encouraging to see Labour so roundly thrashed at the ballot box. Ringer
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10:49am Mon 6 May 13

RichardR1 says...

House there are those who take the view that if you don't take part in the process you have no right to complain.
House there are those who take the view that if you don't take part in the process you have no right to complain. RichardR1
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7:11am Tue 7 May 13

house on the hill says...

And there are those who take the view that all politicians and would be's are all arrogant self serving egotistical aholes who have no concept or interest in reality just in themselves but it doesn't seem to stop them posting. Give me a party worth voting for and I will, but personally I don't settle for the best of a bad lot as we keep doing time and again.
And there are those who take the view that all politicians and would be's are all arrogant self serving egotistical aholes who have no concept or interest in reality just in themselves but it doesn't seem to stop them posting. Give me a party worth voting for and I will, but personally I don't settle for the best of a bad lot as we keep doing time and again. house on the hill
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10:13am Tue 7 May 13

RichardR1 says...

So start your own party House, if you are right you can clear up.

Write your own manifesto of how to solve Swindon's problems (start small), then you can move on to the national scene.

I wouldn't disagree there are those who want to be politicians for the wrong reasons, but it's the only system we have, so not helping to change it with respect makes you know better than those politicians.
So start your own party House, if you are right you can clear up. Write your own manifesto of how to solve Swindon's problems (start small), then you can move on to the national scene. I wouldn't disagree there are those who want to be politicians for the wrong reasons, but it's the only system we have, so not helping to change it with respect makes you know better than those politicians. RichardR1
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1:21pm Tue 7 May 13

notscot says...

RichardR1 wrote:
So start your own party House, if you are right you can clear up.

Write your own manifesto of how to solve Swindon's problems (start small), then you can move on to the national scene.

I wouldn't disagree there are those who want to be politicians for the wrong reasons, but it's the only system we have, so not helping to change it with respect makes you know better than those politicians.
And we're back to: who can afford to?
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: So start your own party House, if you are right you can clear up. Write your own manifesto of how to solve Swindon's problems (start small), then you can move on to the national scene. I wouldn't disagree there are those who want to be politicians for the wrong reasons, but it's the only system we have, so not helping to change it with respect makes you know better than those politicians.[/p][/quote]And we're back to: who can afford to? notscot
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9:54pm Tue 7 May 13

Daedalus says...

You could always call it the 'House Party'.
You could always call it the 'House Party'. Daedalus
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