£25m project could help cut reoffending

Swindon Advertiser: £25m project could help cut reoffending £25m project could help cut reoffending

WILTSHIRE constabulary and the region’s mental health service have welcomed a pioneering scheme to cut reoffending by deploying psychiatric nurses and social workers to police stations in Swindon.

The £25 million pilot programme will be trialled across Swindon as well as ten other areas in the England after it emerged police officers spent between 15 per cent and 25 per cent of their time dealing with suspects with mental health issues.

The nurses and social workers’ duties will include helping officers to respond to calls and identify offenders with mental health problems, learning disabilities and other impairments.

This will allow staff to immediately offer suspects the treatment and support they require.

Being able to diagnose criminals at an early stage could affect the way in which they are dealt with by the justice system, ministers unveiling the scheme said.

The venture was warmly backed by Wiltshire Police as well as the Avon and Wiltshire Mental Health Partnership NHS Trust, whose staff will be based in police custody suites as well as criminal courts.

“We are delighted to be able to offer this service to ensure people coming into the criminal justice system with mental health illnesses, learning disabilities and substance misuse problems get the treatment and support they need as early as possible,” said AWP’s Courts Assessment Referral Service team leader Richard Evans.

“By giving treatment sooner, the hope is we will also be able to reduce the likelihood of re-offending.”

Many people in prison have a mental health problem, a substance misuse problem or a learning disability, according to the Department of Health, with one in four suffering from a severe illness such as depression or psychosis.

But too often criminals with mental health problems are being diagnosed only once they have reached jail.

Over the past six weeks, Mr Evans, who has run a similar scheme in criminal courts for offenders suffering from mental health problems in the region, has trained Wiltshire Police custody staff, introducing them to the team’s work, along with CARS practitioner Kristina Rees.

A police spokesman said the scheme would prevent reoffending in cases and free up resources.

“Wiltshire Police strives to work with specialist partnership agencies where appropriate to enhance the systems already in place,” he said.

“Working with specially-trained mental health professionals from the point of arrest will enable earlier identification of those in need of mental health assessment or referral and reduce the risk of reoffending, which would only go to benefit the local community and free up police resources.”

If successful the programme could be extended to the rest of England by 2017.

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1:27pm Tue 7 Jan 14

beach1e says...

I wonder how much would actually be spent on doing good and how much would be wasted on self promoting about how marvellous the people that run it are?The facts are that not enough is done to help offenders when they are in prison to help them lead a better quality of life when they are released.
I wonder how much would actually be spent on doing good and how much would be wasted on self promoting about how marvellous the people that run it are?The facts are that not enough is done to help offenders when they are in prison to help them lead a better quality of life when they are released. beach1e

9:57pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Localboy86 says...

Waste of money, someone on call covering an area would do..
Waste of money, someone on call covering an area would do.. Localboy86

8:26am Wed 8 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

beach1e wrote:
I wonder how much would actually be spent on doing good and how much would be wasted on self promoting about how marvellous the people that run it are?The facts are that not enough is done to help offenders when they are in prison to help them lead a better quality of life when they are released.
Very true, they would all have to justify their existence so would be spending more on performance figures and stats than actually helping those who need it. A sad but true situation.
[quote][p][bold]beach1e[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much would actually be spent on doing good and how much would be wasted on self promoting about how marvellous the people that run it are?The facts are that not enough is done to help offenders when they are in prison to help them lead a better quality of life when they are released.[/p][/quote]Very true, they would all have to justify their existence so would be spending more on performance figures and stats than actually helping those who need it. A sad but true situation. house on the hill

11:07am Wed 8 Jan 14

ChannelX says...

In another article of the last few days in the Adver we have seen the Wiltshire Police Commissioner tell us that, due to budget cuts of around £14million, he wishes to impose higher taxes on all taxpayers to help balance his budget.

£14million is indeed a lot of money to have to save.

So why the **** are the police completely squandering £25 million on this ridiculous scheme that will achieve precisely NOTHING?

Drug addicted criminals reoffend in 92% of cases (ie, virtually ALL of them) in the UK, even after having gone through the official 'rehabilitation' programmes (stop laughing at the back).

Mentally ill criminals will remain mentally ill criminals and, short of taking them off the streets and either putting them in prison or mental homes, will always remain so. The public are sick to death of mentally ill people, oops, forgetting to take their meds and then murdering people because of it. Why are we forced to take these stupid and fatal gambles? What benefit is there to anyone to have these people wandering around in society?

£25million to be wasted on salaries, plush offices and endless PR propaganda to tell us how effective it's been - despite the fact it won't be.

It's basically just an insult to demand we pay the police increased taxes while at the same time spending £10 million MORE than their total budget cut on this hair-brained scheme.
In another article of the last few days in the Adver we have seen the Wiltshire Police Commissioner tell us that, due to budget cuts of around £14million, he wishes to impose higher taxes on all taxpayers to help balance his budget. £14million is indeed a lot of money to have to save. So why the **** are the police completely squandering £25 million on this ridiculous scheme that will achieve precisely NOTHING? Drug addicted criminals reoffend in 92% of cases (ie, virtually ALL of them) in the UK, even after having gone through the official 'rehabilitation' programmes (stop laughing at the back). Mentally ill criminals will remain mentally ill criminals and, short of taking them off the streets and either putting them in prison or mental homes, will always remain so. The public are sick to death of mentally ill people, oops, forgetting to take their meds and then murdering people because of it. Why are we forced to take these stupid and fatal gambles? What benefit is there to anyone to have these people wandering around in society? £25million to be wasted on salaries, plush offices and endless PR propaganda to tell us how effective it's been - despite the fact it won't be. It's basically just an insult to demand we pay the police increased taxes while at the same time spending £10 million MORE than their total budget cut on this hair-brained scheme. ChannelX

1:59pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

ChannelX wrote:
In another article of the last few days in the Adver we have seen the Wiltshire Police Commissioner tell us that, due to budget cuts of around £14million, he wishes to impose higher taxes on all taxpayers to help balance his budget.

£14million is indeed a lot of money to have to save.

So why the **** are the police completely squandering £25 million on this ridiculous scheme that will achieve precisely NOTHING?

Drug addicted criminals reoffend in 92% of cases (ie, virtually ALL of them) in the UK, even after having gone through the official 'rehabilitation' programmes (stop laughing at the back).

Mentally ill criminals will remain mentally ill criminals and, short of taking them off the streets and either putting them in prison or mental homes, will always remain so. The public are sick to death of mentally ill people, oops, forgetting to take their meds and then murdering people because of it. Why are we forced to take these stupid and fatal gambles? What benefit is there to anyone to have these people wandering around in society?

£25million to be wasted on salaries, plush offices and endless PR propaganda to tell us how effective it's been - despite the fact it won't be.

It's basically just an insult to demand we pay the police increased taxes while at the same time spending £10 million MORE than their total budget cut on this hair-brained scheme.
mental health issues do not get the respect they deserve. Only in extremely rare cases does someone with mental health issues freak out and cause harm this happens after months and potentially years of no help and being ignored.
If we as a society say they are not worth taking a gamble on lets look at other wastes of money obesity, elderly that cannot work, ex military and many that have come through the public services systems. That would save money that I am sure you could allocate in a better way these gambles on society would be better off locked up?
Just curious but where did you get your 92% re offender rate from?
I do not think this should be an additional tax we have found money recently to raise MP`s pay by 11% equating to millions last time I looked the financial crisis was still MSM news worthy.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: In another article of the last few days in the Adver we have seen the Wiltshire Police Commissioner tell us that, due to budget cuts of around £14million, he wishes to impose higher taxes on all taxpayers to help balance his budget. £14million is indeed a lot of money to have to save. So why the **** are the police completely squandering £25 million on this ridiculous scheme that will achieve precisely NOTHING? Drug addicted criminals reoffend in 92% of cases (ie, virtually ALL of them) in the UK, even after having gone through the official 'rehabilitation' programmes (stop laughing at the back). Mentally ill criminals will remain mentally ill criminals and, short of taking them off the streets and either putting them in prison or mental homes, will always remain so. The public are sick to death of mentally ill people, oops, forgetting to take their meds and then murdering people because of it. Why are we forced to take these stupid and fatal gambles? What benefit is there to anyone to have these people wandering around in society? £25million to be wasted on salaries, plush offices and endless PR propaganda to tell us how effective it's been - despite the fact it won't be. It's basically just an insult to demand we pay the police increased taxes while at the same time spending £10 million MORE than their total budget cut on this hair-brained scheme.[/p][/quote]mental health issues do not get the respect they deserve. Only in extremely rare cases does someone with mental health issues freak out and cause harm this happens after months and potentially years of no help and being ignored. If we as a society say they are not worth taking a gamble on lets look at other wastes of money obesity, elderly that cannot work, ex military and many that have come through the public services systems. That would save money that I am sure you could allocate in a better way these gambles on society would be better off locked up? Just curious but where did you get your 92% re offender rate from? I do not think this should be an additional tax we have found money recently to raise MP`s pay by 11% equating to millions last time I looked the financial crisis was still MSM news worthy. Badgersgetabadname

2:01pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Localboy86 wrote:
Waste of money, someone on call covering an area would do..
How many mental health issues do yo think there are in Wiltshire?
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: Waste of money, someone on call covering an area would do..[/p][/quote]How many mental health issues do yo think there are in Wiltshire? Badgersgetabadname

2:59pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ChannelX says...


Only in extremely rare cases does someone with mental health issues freak out and cause harm


Only, that's not true, is it?

You can't have it both ways. If the claim is that '25 per cent of police time dealing with suspects with mental health issues' and:


More than 70% of the prison population has two or more mental health disorders.

Source: http://www.mentalhea
lth.org.uk/help-info
rmation/mental-healt
h-statistics/prisons
/


Then it is very clear that mentally ill people are a serious problem for society.
[quote] Only in extremely rare cases does someone with mental health issues freak out and cause harm [/quote] Only, that's not true, is it? You can't have it both ways. If the claim is that '25 per cent of police time dealing with suspects with mental health issues' and: [quote] More than 70% of the prison population has two or more mental health disorders. Source: http://www.mentalhea lth.org.uk/help-info rmation/mental-healt h-statistics/prisons / [/quote] Then it is very clear that mentally ill people are a serious problem for society. ChannelX

4:32am Thu 9 Jan 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

I would imagine that over 70% of the general population has at least 2 mental health issues. Out of my entire comment you have taken a single line do you have an example of when someone has done harm to themselves or others as a first option or is it that the issue has been put off or ignored? It doesnt say 25% of police time it states between 15 and 25 but when looking to make the worst (or best) of the statistic I can see why you would lean to the higher number.
I dont think anyone was suggesting that mental health isnt an issue for society at large but do you have anything to offer as a solution?
I would imagine that over 70% of the general population has at least 2 mental health issues. Out of my entire comment you have taken a single line do you have an example of when someone has done harm to themselves or others as a first option or is it that the issue has been put off or ignored? It doesnt say 25% of police time it states between 15 and 25 but when looking to make the worst (or best) of the statistic I can see why you would lean to the higher number. I dont think anyone was suggesting that mental health isnt an issue for society at large but do you have anything to offer as a solution? Badgersgetabadname

4:41am Thu 9 Jan 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

ChannelX wrote:

Only in extremely rare cases does someone with mental health issues freak out and cause harm


Only, that's not true, is it?

You can't have it both ways. If the claim is that '25 per cent of police time dealing with suspects with mental health issues' and:


More than 70% of the prison population has two or more mental health disorders.

Source: http://www.mentalhea

lth.org.uk/help-info

rmation/mental-healt

h-statistics/prisons

/


Then it is very clear that mentally ill people are a serious problem for society.
When these people grow up with mental health issues what do you propose? http://www.swindonad
vertiser.co.uk/news/
10919934.1_000_child
ren_cope_with_domest
ic_abuse/#commentsfo
rm
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote] Only in extremely rare cases does someone with mental health issues freak out and cause harm [/quote] Only, that's not true, is it? You can't have it both ways. If the claim is that '25 per cent of police time dealing with suspects with mental health issues' and: [quote] More than 70% of the prison population has two or more mental health disorders. Source: http://www.mentalhea lth.org.uk/help-info rmation/mental-healt h-statistics/prisons / [/quote] Then it is very clear that mentally ill people are a serious problem for society.[/p][/quote]When these people grow up with mental health issues what do you propose? http://www.swindonad vertiser.co.uk/news/ 10919934.1_000_child ren_cope_with_domest ic_abuse/#commentsfo rm Badgersgetabadname

9:39am Mon 13 Jan 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

As ever the boo hiss crowd will look down on anything that is not in their age, class or peer group.
No follow up thinking just the same attitude as ever. Is there any wonder the town is dying?
Circle of failure will continue unless route course of problems are found, there is a high chance that many of the youth`s mental health problems stem from being brought up around others with MH issues until they are spoken to and route cause discovered this will not end.
Majority of the towns residents couldnt care less as long as its not next door to them.
As ever the boo hiss crowd will look down on anything that is not in their age, class or peer group. No follow up thinking just the same attitude as ever. Is there any wonder the town is dying? Circle of failure will continue unless route course of problems are found, there is a high chance that many of the youth`s mental health problems stem from being brought up around others with MH issues until they are spoken to and route cause discovered this will not end. Majority of the towns residents couldnt care less as long as its not next door to them. Badgersgetabadname

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