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Shortened lunch break just doesn't add up

DOWN at Isambard Community School 15 minutes has been shaved from the lunchbreak.

As a result, pupils have launched a petition against the measure, attracting 100 signatures. Some have also spoken out with commendable articulacy.

School officials say the aim is to add 15 minutes to the final lesson of the day. Many people will be a little bewildered by this.

As any child, young person, former child or young person, teacher, teaching assistant or anybody else who’s spent time in a classroom knows, the last lesson of the day is already quite long enough.

That’s why teachers in charge of them have to spend the last five minutes telling pupils to stop putting their books and pens away.

Quite what adding 15 minutes to this restless period will achieve is beyond me.

Incidentally, a spokesman for the school said: “It would be refreshing if all those who signed this petition were as interested in educational success as they appear to be in a minor change to the school day.”

Unless that spokesman has proof of his assertion, it seems rather nasty and mean-spirited, and hardly calculated to foster good will among pupils and parents.

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11:27am Tue 25 Feb 14

Robh says...

'Unless that spokesman has proof of his assertion, it seems rather nasty and mean-spirited, and hardly calculated to foster good will among pupils and parents.'

Good will went a long time ago. It's a dictatorship.
'Unless that spokesman has proof of his assertion, it seems rather nasty and mean-spirited, and hardly calculated to foster good will among pupils and parents.' Good will went a long time ago. It's a dictatorship. Robh
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12:01pm Tue 25 Feb 14

EmmBee says...

But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?
But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that? EmmBee
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12:16pm Tue 25 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

EmmBee wrote:
But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?
Plenty. Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense would know that if you want/need to implement change, you have to bring people with you, not fight against them.

If the school were open and honest, and people understood the actual reasons behind the change they may be more supportive. As it is, this is just the latest in a long line of communications blunders the school keeps making, and I'm sure (hope) this will come up in the next OFSTED inspection.

I'd love to know which spokesman made that last statement, as that is an appalling thing to say about impressionable students supposedly in their care.
[quote][p][bold]EmmBee[/bold] wrote: But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?[/p][/quote]Plenty. Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense would know that if you want/need to implement change, you have to bring people with you, not fight against them. If the school were open and honest, and people understood the actual reasons behind the change they may be more supportive. As it is, this is just the latest in a long line of communications blunders the school keeps making, and I'm sure (hope) this will come up in the next OFSTED inspection. I'd love to know which spokesman made that last statement, as that is an appalling thing to say about impressionable students supposedly in their care. The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 5

12:19pm Tue 25 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

One more thing to ponder. By reducing the lunch hour by 15 minutes, and placing the burden of adult supervision back onto teachers for that time, I wonder how much money they are saving?
One more thing to ponder. By reducing the lunch hour by 15 minutes, and placing the burden of adult supervision back onto teachers for that time, I wonder how much money they are saving? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 4

12:49pm Tue 25 Feb 14

dgsrsmlly says...

I will be glad for the lunch break to be shortened. My boy seems to spend most of his hour long lunch break playing football in the school yard known as the 'muga'! He goes through school shoes like nothing else, so hopefully this move will save me a few pennies. Also, I believe schools should not listen too much to the kids views on matters such as this one. Of course you are going to get some kids whinging about less time for lunch and more in the classroom, they are teenagers after all. In reality it makes perfect sense as long as the canteen can cope.
I will be glad for the lunch break to be shortened. My boy seems to spend most of his hour long lunch break playing football in the school yard known as the 'muga'! He goes through school shoes like nothing else, so hopefully this move will save me a few pennies. Also, I believe schools should not listen too much to the kids views on matters such as this one. Of course you are going to get some kids whinging about less time for lunch and more in the classroom, they are teenagers after all. In reality it makes perfect sense as long as the canteen can cope. dgsrsmlly
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1:26pm Tue 25 Feb 14

EmmBee says...

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
EmmBee wrote:
But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?
Plenty. Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense would know that if you want/need to implement change, you have to bring people with you, not fight against them.

If the school were open and honest, and people understood the actual reasons behind the change they may be more supportive. As it is, this is just the latest in a long line of communications blunders the school keeps making, and I'm sure (hope) this will come up in the next OFSTED inspection.

I'd love to know which spokesman made that last statement, as that is an appalling thing to say about impressionable students supposedly in their care.
You could extend that argument to other parts of school life though. School uniform. Homework. Even lessons. If I were to turn to my boss & say "sorry boss, I only want to work 20 hours a week for my pay, and and not 38" then I bet you can guess his response. No amount of explaining the "actual reasons" would help.
[quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EmmBee[/bold] wrote: But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?[/p][/quote]Plenty. Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense would know that if you want/need to implement change, you have to bring people with you, not fight against them. If the school were open and honest, and people understood the actual reasons behind the change they may be more supportive. As it is, this is just the latest in a long line of communications blunders the school keeps making, and I'm sure (hope) this will come up in the next OFSTED inspection. I'd love to know which spokesman made that last statement, as that is an appalling thing to say about impressionable students supposedly in their care.[/p][/quote]You could extend that argument to other parts of school life though. School uniform. Homework. Even lessons. If I were to turn to my boss & say "sorry boss, I only want to work 20 hours a week for my pay, and and not 38" then I bet you can guess his response. No amount of explaining the "actual reasons" would help. EmmBee
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1:34pm Tue 25 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

EmmBee wrote:
The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
EmmBee wrote:
But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?
Plenty. Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense would know that if you want/need to implement change, you have to bring people with you, not fight against them.

If the school were open and honest, and people understood the actual reasons behind the change they may be more supportive. As it is, this is just the latest in a long line of communications blunders the school keeps making, and I'm sure (hope) this will come up in the next OFSTED inspection.

I'd love to know which spokesman made that last statement, as that is an appalling thing to say about impressionable students supposedly in their care.
You could extend that argument to other parts of school life though. School uniform. Homework. Even lessons. If I were to turn to my boss & say "sorry boss, I only want to work 20 hours a week for my pay, and and not 38" then I bet you can guess his response. No amount of explaining the "actual reasons" would help.
That's not the same thing at all. To be anything like comparable, it would have to be something like your boss would be telling you that you were working 15 minutes extra every day for no extra pay - that is effectively what the school is doing to the teachers there, so I can't imagine they're too happy about it either.

As for uniform, homework, lessons etc, of course if the school wants to change those it could have an impact on parents and pupils and so they should be consulted.

In this case I don't think it's so much about the change itself but moreso the way it was done. The head of year 8 for instance told at least some of the children in assembly that it was a punishment for playing games and too much running around at lunch time. Perhaps if their messaging around the change had been consistent and fair there wouldn't have been so much fuss?
[quote][p][bold]EmmBee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EmmBee[/bold] wrote: But shouldn't schools be dictatorships? What's wrong with that?[/p][/quote]Plenty. Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense would know that if you want/need to implement change, you have to bring people with you, not fight against them. If the school were open and honest, and people understood the actual reasons behind the change they may be more supportive. As it is, this is just the latest in a long line of communications blunders the school keeps making, and I'm sure (hope) this will come up in the next OFSTED inspection. I'd love to know which spokesman made that last statement, as that is an appalling thing to say about impressionable students supposedly in their care.[/p][/quote]You could extend that argument to other parts of school life though. School uniform. Homework. Even lessons. If I were to turn to my boss & say "sorry boss, I only want to work 20 hours a week for my pay, and and not 38" then I bet you can guess his response. No amount of explaining the "actual reasons" would help.[/p][/quote]That's not the same thing at all. To be anything like comparable, it would have to be something like your boss would be telling you that you were working 15 minutes extra every day for no extra pay - that is effectively what the school is doing to the teachers there, so I can't imagine they're too happy about it either. As for uniform, homework, lessons etc, of course if the school wants to change those it could have an impact on parents and pupils and so they should be consulted. In this case I don't think it's so much about the change itself but moreso the way it was done. The head of year 8 for instance told at least some of the children in assembly that it was a punishment for playing games and too much running around at lunch time. Perhaps if their messaging around the change had been consistent and fair there wouldn't have been so much fuss? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Tue 25 Feb 14

PJC says...

I think Barrie needs to go back to school! This piece is very hard to read. Did he rush it off in his lunch break?!
I think Barrie needs to go back to school! This piece is very hard to read. Did he rush it off in his lunch break?! PJC
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9:41pm Tue 25 Feb 14

timt1964 says...

pupils need to stop moaning and learn the meaning of "commendable articulacy" who writes this? william shakespeare?
pupils need to stop moaning and learn the meaning of "commendable articulacy" who writes this? william shakespeare? timt1964
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