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Prince of Wales pub may become flats

Swindon Advertiser: The Prince of Wales pub in Union Street, Old Town The Prince of Wales pub in Union Street, Old Town

ONE of the town’s historic pubs seems to have pulled its last pint after an application has been submitted to convert it into flats.

The Prince of Wales, in Old Town, has had a troubled history as several attempts to revive its fortunes have failed.

Now the pub has been bought by a private developer who is amining to turn it into four separate residential properties.

Although the pub had been struggling for a number of years, the shutters were first pulled down in 2012. A temporary manager had run the site for several months before Punch Taverns closed it while they searched for a new tenant.

Agents were brought in and were offering the venue as either a pub or to sell into the private market.

Hopes were raised when the tenancy was given out last year but it only lasted several months before the doors were closed, seemingly for the last time.

It is believed the pub has been sold by Punch, which is in the middle of a re-structuring programme.

The application to Swindon Council said: “Planning permission is sought for the change of use of the building from a public house and flat, to four independent one-bedroom flats. “The application would therefore result in the net gain of three residential properties. “The application also includes the erection of a flat roofed first floor rear extension and other associated works.

“The change of use primarily consists of internal alterations. The front and side elevations of the building will remain completed unchanged by this proposal with all existing openings being retained and unaltered.”

It represents the latest in a long line of pubs in Swindon to face closure after poor tade.

The Grapes Hotel, in Faringdon Road, was converted last year and a similar application has been put forward for the nearby 12 bar, which closed last year.

An application to build houses on the Queensfield pub which closed several years ago was withdrawn a few months ago but the site’s future looks unlikely to be in the pub industry.

The Campaign For Real Ale says a problem for pubs like the Prince of Wales is they are tied to companies like Punch, which limits the stock they can sell.

When the Grapes closed Hans Hoffbauer, the chairman of the Swindon Campaign for Real Ale branch, said: “It’s always a shame to see a local pub close.

“It is quite common with pubs owned by large companies and therefore restricted on which beers they can buy.”

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11:48am Thu 29 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

It used to be a great local with great people but was never going to keep going with a handful of regulars.
Most recent owners were bit strange to say the least.

Beautiful building and will make some great properties.
Shame to see another proper pub closing down.
It used to be a great local with great people but was never going to keep going with a handful of regulars. Most recent owners were bit strange to say the least. Beautiful building and will make some great properties. Shame to see another proper pub closing down. IfItsONtheNet
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12:37pm Thu 29 May 14

Tonyblairisthedevil says...

Yep unfortunately with alot of local pubs its use it or loose it. Its hard to survive with a handful of regulars drinking..
Yep unfortunately with alot of local pubs its use it or loose it. Its hard to survive with a handful of regulars drinking.. Tonyblairisthedevil
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12:42pm Thu 29 May 14

house on the hill says...

It doesnt mean less people are drinking, they are just finding cheaper ways of doing it like we all are for everything we buy. The business world is changing and there will be casualties along the way.
It doesnt mean less people are drinking, they are just finding cheaper ways of doing it like we all are for everything we buy. The business world is changing and there will be casualties along the way. house on the hill
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2:33pm Thu 29 May 14

ChannelX says...

@IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it!
@IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it! ChannelX
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Thu 29 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Oh no this is terrible, I used to drink there before I was allowed. I remember a number of brilliant gigs in the skittle alley out back.
As I got older I always stopped in for a pint or two great staff locals you could talk to and a free jukebox.

Lovely building though do hope they keep the features of the building intact.
Oh no this is terrible, I used to drink there before I was allowed. I remember a number of brilliant gigs in the skittle alley out back. As I got older I always stopped in for a pint or two great staff locals you could talk to and a free jukebox. Lovely building though do hope they keep the features of the building intact. Badgersgetabadname
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3:49pm Thu 29 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

ChannelX wrote:
@IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it!
When was that????
How long did they get away with that one for?
Not sure how I missed that was it a regular thing?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: @IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it![/p][/quote]When was that???? How long did they get away with that one for? Not sure how I missed that was it a regular thing? IfItsONtheNet
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9:57pm Thu 29 May 14

ChannelX says...

IfItsONtheNet wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
@IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it!
When was that????
How long did they get away with that one for?
Not sure how I missed that was it a regular thing?
It was years ago now, probably 15 or so years, maybe more.

I think it ran for about a month. I can't remember whether they were told to cease it or whether they decided to end it themselves. As I say, it was pretty stupid as you could never get to the bar.
[quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: @IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it![/p][/quote]When was that???? How long did they get away with that one for? Not sure how I missed that was it a regular thing?[/p][/quote]It was years ago now, probably 15 or so years, maybe more. I think it ran for about a month. I can't remember whether they were told to cease it or whether they decided to end it themselves. As I say, it was pretty stupid as you could never get to the bar. ChannelX
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9:43am Fri 30 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

ChannelX wrote:
IfItsONtheNet wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
@IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it!
When was that????
How long did they get away with that one for?
Not sure how I missed that was it a regular thing?
It was years ago now, probably 15 or so years, maybe more.

I think it ran for about a month. I can't remember whether they were told to cease it or whether they decided to end it themselves. As I say, it was pretty stupid as you could never get to the bar.
Not exactly current event though and probably very little if anything to do with the pub closing.
Not really that sort of pub though, it was about having few pints and a bit of a chat in recent years the garden looked great.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: @IfItsONtheNet - what was REALLY weird was when the Prince of Wale had topless barmaids. You couldn't get near the bar to order a drink due to the old letches sitting in front of it![/p][/quote]When was that???? How long did they get away with that one for? Not sure how I missed that was it a regular thing?[/p][/quote]It was years ago now, probably 15 or so years, maybe more. I think it ran for about a month. I can't remember whether they were told to cease it or whether they decided to end it themselves. As I say, it was pretty stupid as you could never get to the bar.[/p][/quote]Not exactly current event though and probably very little if anything to do with the pub closing. Not really that sort of pub though, it was about having few pints and a bit of a chat in recent years the garden looked great. IfItsONtheNet
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5:04pm Fri 30 May 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

It was a long way from Haydon Wick
It was a long way from Haydon Wick Ollie Dognacky
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