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9:20am Friday 20th March 2009 in
A CONTROVERSIAL area of land in Swindon that is earmarked for a housing development could instead become Swindon’s own “mini-Avebury”, according to campaigners.
The claim comes after ancient stones, which could be part of Swindon’s Neolithic history, were unearthed at Coate.
The two sarsen stones were uncovered by the Highways Agency last week opposite Day House Farm, near the protected Coate Stone Circle.
The find has excited speculation that more historic stones may still lie undiscovered in the area.
Campaigners against a planning application by the Swindon Gateway Partnership to build 1,800 homes and a university campus on land near Coate Water say the development could rob the town of huge potential historic and tourist value.
Jean Saunders, from the Jefferies Land Conservation Trust, said: “There is a real chance here to create almost a mini-Avebury.
“This particular area is steeped in pre-history. We know of a Bronze Age settlement just south of Coate Water, two round barrows opposite Richard Jefferies’ old house at Coate, two stone circles on Day House Farm and lines of stones linking these together with others.
“It would be criminal to surround these ancient relics of the past with modern buildings. Who knows how many more of these old stones lie undiscovered? Can Swindon afford to lose more of its history?
“This raises a lot of unanswered questions. We are very aware of the importance of this whole area and it is not just Bronze Age, but medieval and Roman.
“This is something I wanted to bring up at the inquiry but because the developers didn’t actually put forward an archaeologist there wasn’t the chance. The problem was that English Heritage and the county archaeologist dropped their objections at the eleventh hour, so it no longer became an issue for the planning inspector.”
Felicity Cobb, from the Save Coate campaign, said: “It would be nice if the planning inspector took this into account but I’m not holding my breath.”
Wiltshire county archaeologist Melanie Pomeroy-Kellinger said: “I haven’t been able to go and see the stones yet but they do occur naturally in the area. There is a stone circle nearby which is a scheduled monument.”
The inquiry into SGP’s planning appeal officially closes on March 27, after which the planning inspector will make his recommendations to secretary of state Hazel Blears.
Comments(84)
bampi
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9:42am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:Right with you Jock Strap.
Jean Saunders, from the Jefferies Land Conservation Trust, said: “There is a real chance here to create almost a mini-Avebury. -YAWN! “It would be criminal to surround these ancient relics of the past with modern buildings -NO IT WOULDN'T Can Swindon afford to lose more of its history? -YES! The problem was that English Heritage and the county archaeologist dropped their objections at the eleventh hour, so it no longer became an issue for the planning inspector.” _THEREFORE IT IS NOT AN ISSUE Felicity Cobb, from the Save Coate campaign, said: “It would be nice if the planning inspector took this into account -NO IT Wouldn't!
AustinField
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9:52am Fri 20 Mar 09
stevemac10
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9:54am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap
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9:58am Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE
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10:03am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:some individuals are for the protection of their environment and some like you are all for developping on it, I bet you agree with the Amazon Deforestation don't you?
Well Bampi you do wonder don't you? How many more column inches are the Adver going to give over to this tiresome group of individuals who bang the same drum all the time. It's a wonder to me how the Adver has any circulation at all - from my perspective I'd only have to see yet another image of Ms's Cobb and Saunders on the front page to make me not buy a copy.
john c
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10:14am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap
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10:29am Fri 20 Mar 09
john c wrote:Well stonehenge is just a lump of stones anyway and apparently is a major distraction for drivers passing by so it would make sense to re-develop it - we'd also save the expense of not having to police the site every time there's some solstice or weirdo festival.
If we followed current government planning guide lines then Avebury, Barbury castle and Stonehendge would all be redeveloped as they are Brown Field sites.
Janais is back
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10:34am Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE
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10:48am Fri 20 Mar 09
Janais is back wrote:Jock Strap, Truss is very honest : the rich will do everything to get richer destroying people environement in the name of "progress" or lets call it GREED.
Unfortunately Swindon is no longer a one horse Town. It has been blighted with all the trappings of modern society which bacically means the financially powerful lobby (aka builders & the Council) will always get their way. Coate Water was originally developed as water storage for the Canal that ran through Swindon and the leisure part was a natural progression. I am sure that many people can remember using the paddling & swimming pool there as children but you only have to look at the diving board there to realise that it is now gradually becoming forgotten. Lydiard Park has become the new Coate Water (most unfotunately in my humble opinion)so it is clear Coate Water has outlived its usefulness in that respect. Coate Water is also near the M4 and has additional land available for development at the back of Marlborough Road - where the Bath & West Show used to be held - so the future for the Coate Water area has already been mapped out - sorry friends of the earth or whatever title you are using. However I really do fret for all the inhabitants of Park South. I mean fancy all those undesirable students moving into their neighbourhood!
Janais is back
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11:01am Fri 20 Mar 09
Al Smith
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11:02am Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE
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11:03am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:Stonehenge a lump of Stones?
john c wrote: If we followed current government planning guide lines then Avebury, Barbury castle and Stonehendge would all be redeveloped as they are Brown Field sites.Well stonehenge is just a lump of stones anyway and apparently is a major distraction for drivers passing by so it would make sense to re-develop it - we'd also save the expense of not having to police the site every time there's some solstice or weirdo festival. IR of E - of course I agree with chopping down the Amazon rainforest - well if that's what you want me to say of course!
Always Grumpy
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11:05am Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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11:07am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap
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11:22am Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE wrote:Well you see it's like this on this site - I scatter corn and along come the pigeons and gobble it up - and as you know pigeons can be incredibly gullible birds some times. But I do agree, and obviously although myself and the likes of AG, Peeved, and the eloquent Janais for example, don't fall into that category,there are many un-educated and definitely uncultivated residents of Swinetown.
Jock Strap wrote:Stonehenge a lump of Stones? Cut down the Amazon forest..... For someone that can actually be quite litterate you are showing to be in fact so ignorant. Maybe not ignorant! but typical of the town you live in: Un-educated, un-cultivatedjohn c wrote: If we followed current government planning guide lines then Avebury, Barbury castle and Stonehendge would all be redeveloped as they are Brown Field sites.Well stonehenge is just a lump of stones anyway and apparently is a major distraction for drivers passing by so it would make sense to re-develop it - we'd also save the expense of not having to police the site every time there's some solstice or weirdo festival. IR of E - of course I agree with chopping down the Amazon rainforest - well if that's what you want me to say of course!
The Keeper
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11:25am Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:Another typical dumbhead comment from one of Swindon's moonraking fraternity.
Jean Saunders, from the Jefferies Land Conservation Trust, said: “There is a real chance here to create almost a mini-Avebury. -YAWN! “It would be criminal to surround these ancient relics of the past with modern buildings -NO IT WOULDN'T Can Swindon afford to lose more of its history? -YES! The problem was that English Heritage and the county archaeologist dropped their objections at the eleventh hour, so it no longer became an issue for the planning inspector.” _THEREFORE IT IS NOT AN ISSUE Felicity Cobb, from the Save Coate campaign, said: “It would be nice if the planning inspector took this into account -NO IT Wouldn't!
IRofE
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11:36am Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:dont be bitter:-) one day you will find something intesresting to say.
"leaving us the mortals to the mercy of what is left of Earth." said IRofE. Well, if your left alone on planet Earth, then that's a win win situation all round!
Dommo
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11:56am Fri 20 Mar 09
Mick12
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11:56am Fri 20 Mar 09
ListenToReason
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11:56am Fri 20 Mar 09
TKD4ever
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12:32pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap
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12:58pm Fri 20 Mar 09
The Keeper wrote:Ah! Thing is Mr Keeper I baint be a muckraker zee cos I ain't from Swinetown -mercifully I ain't a Swine-donut-ian. Ain't you failed to notice the Corn exchange & the Mechronics Destitute is already in ruins -zo logical thing is not to spend a load of money on it my dear much better get them old bulldozers in right now flatten it and make zum more room to park them old infernal combustion contraptions what whizzes past my ole tractor. I reckons that ole prefarbi-carbonate libo-rary was much better than that yer new carbuncle what obscures half of that fine looking old town hall now.
Jock Strap wrote: Jean Saunders, from the Jefferies Land Conservation Trust, said: “There is a real chance here to create almost a mini-Avebury. -YAWN! “It would be criminal to surround these ancient relics of the past with modern buildings -NO IT WOULDN'T Can Swindon afford to lose more of its history? -YES! The problem was that English Heritage and the county archaeologist dropped their objections at the eleventh hour, so it no longer became an issue for the planning inspector.” _THEREFORE IT IS NOT AN ISSUE Felicity Cobb, from the Save Coate campaign, said: “It would be nice if the planning inspector took this into account -NO IT Wouldn't!Another typical dumbhead comment from one of Swindon's moonraking fraternity. Yes, let's build over our ancient megalithic heritage. Let the Corn Exchange and Mechanics' Institute fall into ruin. Close down the Jefferies' Museum and sell off the land off to the fattest property developer around. Leave the unique and exquisite Barbury Castle replica Iron Age roundhouse unmonitored and open to the elements 24/7 until louts burn it down. Let's live with a pre-fabricated library for close on fifty years. The 'cultured' folk of Swindon get the 'responsible' councillors they deserve, while the town's already meagre heritage goes to hell in a handcart.
Always Grumpy
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12:59pm Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE wrote:Here's something interesting for you.
Always Grumpy wrote:dont be bitter:-) one day you will find something intesresting to say.
"leaving us the mortals to the mercy of what is left of Earth." said IRofE. Well, if your left alone on planet Earth, then that's a win win situation all round!
Your obsession with me is starting to worry me a little, did you take your pills this morning?
IRofE
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1:34pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:you so smart? so why are you again failing to comment on the article LOL
IRofE wrote:Here's something interesting for you. Buy a dictionary and learn how to use it before you add any more posts to this site. Any obsession I have with you is all in your very tiny little mind. You've no doubt heard of the saying about keeping your mouth shut and letting people wonder if you are an idiot rather than opening it and confirming that you are an idiot. Well, you confirm it every time you post your comments.Always Grumpy wrote: "leaving us the mortals to the mercy of what is left of Earth." said IRofE. Well, if your left alone on planet Earth, then that's a win win situation all round!dont be bitter:-) one day you will find something intesresting to say. Your obsession with me is starting to worry me a little, did you take your pills this morning?
Always Grumpy
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2:40pm Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE wrote:Once again failing miserably to write anything grammatically correct or making any sense.
Always Grumpy wrote:you so smart? so why are you again failing to comment on the article LOL
IRofE wrote:Here's something interesting for you. Buy a dictionary and learn how to use it before you add any more posts to this site. Any obsession I have with you is all in your very tiny little mind. You've no doubt heard of the saying about keeping your mouth shut and letting people wonder if you are an idiot rather than opening it and confirming that you are an idiot. Well, you confirm it every time you post your comments.Always Grumpy wrote: "leaving us the mortals to the mercy of what is left of Earth." said IRofE. Well, if your left alone on planet Earth, then that's a win win situation all round!dont be bitter:-) one day you will find something intesresting to say. Your obsession with me is starting to worry me a little, did you take your pills this morning?
as for the saying, well you are correct! picking them from the nearby dictionary isn't a sign of erudition but a symptom of your stupidity
You are so simple yet don't stop, as you are such a good subject.
IRofE
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3:22pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:I suggest you go do some volunteer work in a school make yourself useful.....
IRofE wrote:Once again failing miserably to write anything grammatically correct or making any sense. Have another go and try and make it make sense next time. I know it will be difficult for you, but go for it. I won't mind you asking a friend, if you have any, to help you.Always Grumpy wrote:you so smart? so why are you again failing to comment on the article LOL as for the saying, well you are correct! picking them from the nearby dictionary isn't a sign of erudition but a symptom of your stupidity You are so simple yet don't stop, as you are such a good subject.IRofE wrote:Here's something interesting for you. Buy a dictionary and learn how to use it before you add any more posts to this site. Any obsession I have with you is all in your very tiny little mind. You've no doubt heard of the saying about keeping your mouth shut and letting people wonder if you are an idiot rather than opening it and confirming that you are an idiot. Well, you confirm it every time you post your comments.Always Grumpy wrote: "leaving us the mortals to the mercy of what is left of Earth." said IRofE. Well, if your left alone on planet Earth, then that's a win win situation all round!dont be bitter:-) one day you will find something intesresting to say. Your obsession with me is starting to worry me a little, did you take your pills this morning?
forcryingoutloud
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3:52pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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3:54pm Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE
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4:09pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:If you weren't so dumb, you would get a grasp of my comments:-)
If you had read other comments posted earlier you would have seen I commented on the article with a few facts. Obviously, whoever you get to read them to you missed that one out. I doubt you would have understood them anyway as understanding anything seems to be very difficult for you. Of course, all your comments are totally irrelevant as they are illiterate and virtually impossible to understand. No doubt the new library in Regent Circus has reading books for beginners that you would find both useful and informative. The trouble is someone as stupid and ignorant as you are will reject all offers of help to try and better themselves. Unfortunately you will continue to wallow in the quagmire of ignorance as you haven't the brains to try and haul yourself out.
Jock Strap
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4:55pm Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE
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5:16pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:LOL
Latest score - Grumps 4 IR 2
Always Grumpy
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6:25pm Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE wrote:I would get a grasp of them if they made sense.
Always Grumpy wrote:If you weren't so dumb, you would get a grasp of my comments:-)
If you had read other comments posted earlier you would have seen I commented on the article with a few facts. Obviously, whoever you get to read them to you missed that one out. I doubt you would have understood them anyway as understanding anything seems to be very difficult for you. Of course, all your comments are totally irrelevant as they are illiterate and virtually impossible to understand. No doubt the new library in Regent Circus has reading books for beginners that you would find both useful and informative. The trouble is someone as stupid and ignorant as you are will reject all offers of help to try and better themselves. Unfortunately you will continue to wallow in the quagmire of ignorance as you haven't the brains to try and haul yourself out.
Now I think you have been hanging around 5 years olds much longer than necessary, is it why you are so terrified of expressing your orientation? don't be scared talk to me LOL
Loveall
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7:44pm Fri 20 Mar 09
IRofE wrote:Its always entertaining to read the comments - some days it's like a game of ping-pong, the ball going back and forth. I like to see how quickly the relevance to the article takes to disappear. Keep up the good work all.Thanks
Jock Strap wrote:LOL
Latest score - Grumps 4 IR 2
I enjoy this little bully:-)
He entertains me during some dull days
RFM
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11:56pm Fri 20 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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8:44am Sat 21 Mar 09
Loveall wrote:You're welcome.
IRofE wrote:Its always entertaining to read the comments - some days it's like a game of ping-pong, the ball going back and forth. I like to see how quickly the relevance to the article takes to disappear. Keep up the good work all.Thanks
Jock Strap wrote:LOL
Latest score - Grumps 4 IR 2
I enjoy this little bully:-)
He entertains me during some dull days
Jock Strap
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9:25am Sat 21 Mar 09
TheBluesBrother
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9:55am Sat 21 Mar 09
ListenToReason
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11:27am Sat 21 Mar 09
TheBluesBrother wrote:NIMBY and Green Stop Any Development News:
What happened to "The Great Crested Newt" did it die, as it always put in an appearance when things got tough.
Flicky
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6:03pm Sat 21 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:AG
When they were developing the lawns in the 50's they unearthed plenty of sarsen stones. I didn't hear of any campaigns to save what is now the Windsor Road area. In fact, in Farleigh Crescent, they used explosives to blow up some of the bigger stones. NIMBY Felicity Cobb now lives in that area - what a complete hypocrite this woman is.
PeeveD
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8:51pm Sat 21 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:Look out.... Flicky the top detective is about!
Always Grumpy wrote: When they were developing the lawns in the 50's they unearthed plenty of sarsen stones. I didn't hear of any campaigns to save what is now the Windsor Road area. In fact, in Farleigh Crescent, they used explosives to blow up some of the bigger stones. NIMBY Felicity Cobb now lives in that area - what a complete hypocrite this woman is.AG You do go on an don an don an don but which area do you live in?
Flicky
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10:41pm Sat 21 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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7:50am Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about.
I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG?
The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you.
We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton.
But it's always worth bearing in mind.
Flicky
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8:28am Sun 22 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG
Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
PeeveD
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9:55am Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:The Adver?? NEUTRAL????
I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.
Jock Strap
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10:50am Sun 22 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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11:01am Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close.
Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG
Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?"
So you lived in Windsor Road, did you?
At which number, may I ask?
I have lived here for many years and may remember you....
Or know someone who does...
Flicky
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4:09pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:A message from Hassanein. He has been at the Jefferies' house painting and decorating. He has also cut the grass.
Hear! hear! let's hope the Longcot Lone Ranger and the Windsor Rd Tonto keep their nebs out of Purton. Hiya Flicks honeypie -what's happened to your egyptian buddy - cat seems to have got his tongue -mind you that's no surprise as nobody could understand his ramblings anyway! Is he too busy painting Jeffries cottage perhaps.
Flicky
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4:20pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years.
Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
Always Grumpy
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5:27pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:I suspect because jiver has this fixation about me being a councillor living somewhere in the Chilterns - something I have never been, having lived in Swindon all my life.
Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years.
Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
Very pleasant sunny gardens.
I don't know about the sarsen stones in Farleigh crescent but I do know that Wiltshire is littered with them, especially Sarcen valley, on the Ridgeway, and around Marlborough.
The stones I was pictured by had just been unearthed by the Highways Authority, so it is an exciting find, and there may well be others that will come to light.
So ,your name is not Donald?
I wonder why, when I asked a question of Jiver of your being named Donald and with the surname Phi...ps, immediately you asked for the post to be removed.
Hmmm. I wonder why....if that is not your name.
PeeveD
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6:05pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:I believe his account was suspended for either threatening assault on one of our more popular posters!
Flicky wrote:I suspect because jiver has this fixation about me being a councillor living somewhere in the Chilterns - something I have never been, having lived in Swindon all my life. She's the one who's got me confused with someone else and you seem to have latched on to that as well. I am not who she thinks I am and I suspect some of her posts were libellous, which is no doubt why the Adver removed them. I'm not bothered about what names I'm called, even when they are incorrect, but unfortunately she's obviously too thick to realise she's got it wrong - as you have. Anyway, carry on if you like, it does amuse me that you are blissfully wallowing in ignorance. As to Achmed's absence from this site, I suspect the real reason we've not heard from him lately is because after meeting you, The Loncot One and the one legged tap dancer, he took flight and hotfooted it back to Egypt where he felt safer.Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years. Very pleasant sunny gardens. I don't know about the sarsen stones in Farleigh crescent but I do know that Wiltshire is littered with them, especially Sarcen valley, on the Ridgeway, and around Marlborough. The stones I was pictured by had just been unearthed by the Highways Authority, so it is an exciting find, and there may well be others that will come to light. So ,your name is not Donald? I wonder why, when I asked a question of Jiver of your being named Donald and with the surname Phi...ps, immediately you asked for the post to be removed. Hmmm. I wonder why....if that is not your name.Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
Flicky
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7:25pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:Mr AG
Flicky wrote:I suspect because jiver has this fixation about me being a councillor living somewhere in the Chilterns - something I have never been, having lived in Swindon all my life. She's the one who's got me confused with someone else and you seem to have latched on to that as well. I am not who she thinks I am and I suspect some of her posts were libellous, which is no doubt why the Adver removed them. I'm not bothered about what names I'm called, even when they are incorrect, but unfortunately she's obviously too thick to realise she's got it wrong - as you have. Anyway, carry on if you like, it does amuse me that you are blissfully wallowing in ignorance. As to Achmed's absence from this site, I suspect the real reason we've not heard from him lately is because after meeting you, The Loncot One and the one legged tap dancer, he took flight and hotfooted it back to Egypt where he felt safer.Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years. Very pleasant sunny gardens. I don't know about the sarsen stones in Farleigh crescent but I do know that Wiltshire is littered with them, especially Sarcen valley, on the Ridgeway, and around Marlborough. The stones I was pictured by had just been unearthed by the Highways Authority, so it is an exciting find, and there may well be others that will come to light. So ,your name is not Donald? I wonder why, when I asked a question of Jiver of your being named Donald and with the surname Phi...ps, immediately you asked for the post to be removed. Hmmm. I wonder why....if that is not your name.Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
Flicky
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7:36pm Sun 22 Mar 09
PeeveD wrote:Mr PeeveD,
Always Grumpy wrote:I believe his account was suspended for either threatening assault on one of our more popular posters! Either that or it was for crimes against good grammar! Surprised Flicky hasn't put him up for Mayorship!Flicky wrote:I suspect because jiver has this fixation about me being a councillor living somewhere in the Chilterns - something I have never been, having lived in Swindon all my life. She's the one who's got me confused with someone else and you seem to have latched on to that as well. I am not who she thinks I am and I suspect some of her posts were libellous, which is no doubt why the Adver removed them. I'm not bothered about what names I'm called, even when they are incorrect, but unfortunately she's obviously too thick to realise she's got it wrong - as you have. Anyway, carry on if you like, it does amuse me that you are blissfully wallowing in ignorance. As to Achmed's absence from this site, I suspect the real reason we've not heard from him lately is because after meeting you, The Loncot One and the one legged tap dancer, he took flight and hotfooted it back to Egypt where he felt safer.Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years. Very pleasant sunny gardens. I don't know about the sarsen stones in Farleigh crescent but I do know that Wiltshire is littered with them, especially Sarcen valley, on the Ridgeway, and around Marlborough. The stones I was pictured by had just been unearthed by the Highways Authority, so it is an exciting find, and there may well be others that will come to light. So ,your name is not Donald? I wonder why, when I asked a question of Jiver of your being named Donald and with the surname Phi...ps, immediately you asked for the post to be removed. Hmmm. I wonder why....if that is not your name.Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
PeeveD
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8:45pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:I take no view on any of your "theories" This is because you are all half truth,supposition and fudge... as thankfully the Coate enquiry quickly found out!
PeeveD wrote:Mr PeeveD, Strange that you should mention "Mayorship" with regard to Hassanein. The noun does not easily come tripping off the tongue for me as it does not exist anywhere in my world. Nor in Hassanein's.(I assume.) But it seems that it might be in .....yours? Or, rather, it might ...have ...been in yours (in the past tense)....??? What view do you take on this theory? Also "threatening assault on one of our more popular posters" You seem to be better informed than me. Who might that be , do you imagine? Surely not Mr PeeveD, AG or Jock Strap of Truss (what a charming name. i wonder why it was chosen.?)Always Grumpy wrote:I believe his account was suspended for either threatening assault on one of our more popular posters! Either that or it was for crimes against good grammar! Surprised Flicky hasn't put him up for Mayorship!Flicky wrote:I suspect because jiver has this fixation about me being a councillor living somewhere in the Chilterns - something I have never been, having lived in Swindon all my life. She's the one who's got me confused with someone else and you seem to have latched on to that as well. I am not who she thinks I am and I suspect some of her posts were libellous, which is no doubt why the Adver removed them. I'm not bothered about what names I'm called, even when they are incorrect, but unfortunately she's obviously too thick to realise she's got it wrong - as you have. Anyway, carry on if you like, it does amuse me that you are blissfully wallowing in ignorance. As to Achmed's absence from this site, I suspect the real reason we've not heard from him lately is because after meeting you, The Loncot One and the one legged tap dancer, he took flight and hotfooted it back to Egypt where he felt safer.Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years. Very pleasant sunny gardens. I don't know about the sarsen stones in Farleigh crescent but I do know that Wiltshire is littered with them, especially Sarcen valley, on the Ridgeway, and around Marlborough. The stones I was pictured by had just been unearthed by the Highways Authority, so it is an exciting find, and there may well be others that will come to light. So ,your name is not Donald? I wonder why, when I asked a question of Jiver of your being named Donald and with the surname Phi...ps, immediately you asked for the post to be removed. Hmmm. I wonder why....if that is not your name.Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
Flicky
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9:29pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Jock Strap
says...
9:40pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky
says...
10:11pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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11:05pm Sun 22 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:Call me what you like, it only makes you look more ridiculous than you already are!
Always Grumpy wrote:Mr AG
Flicky wrote:I suspect because jiver has this fixation about me being a councillor living somewhere in the Chilterns - something I have never been, having lived in Swindon all my life. She's the one who's got me confused with someone else and you seem to have latched on to that as well. I am not who she thinks I am and I suspect some of her posts were libellous, which is no doubt why the Adver removed them. I'm not bothered about what names I'm called, even when they are incorrect, but unfortunately she's obviously too thick to realise she's got it wrong - as you have. Anyway, carry on if you like, it does amuse me that you are blissfully wallowing in ignorance. As to Achmed's absence from this site, I suspect the real reason we've not heard from him lately is because after meeting you, The Loncot One and the one legged tap dancer, he took flight and hotfooted it back to Egypt where he felt safer.Always Grumpy wrote:I expect I've been in your house at some time or other, over the years. Very pleasant sunny gardens. I don't know about the sarsen stones in Farleigh crescent but I do know that Wiltshire is littered with them, especially Sarcen valley, on the Ridgeway, and around Marlborough. The stones I was pictured by had just been unearthed by the Highways Authority, so it is an exciting find, and there may well be others that will come to light. So ,your name is not Donald? I wonder why, when I asked a question of Jiver of your being named Donald and with the surname Phi...ps, immediately you asked for the post to be removed. Hmmm. I wonder why....if that is not your name.Flicky wrote:Fortunately I moved away from there well over 40 years ago - long before the NIMBY's took over. It was the top end of Windsor Road, an odd number and when I moved there the road ended just past Dunster Close. Not that you're bothered in any factual information, but my name is not Donald, never has been and unlikely to be! You and jiver carry on thinking that though and my true identity will never be revealed.Always Grumpy wrote:Thanks, Mr AG I don't know Jiver but I do know the song, "Donald, where's your trousers?" So you lived in Windsor Road, did you? At which number, may I ask? I have lived here for many years and may remember you.... Or know someone who does...Flicky wrote: I don 't need to be a detective because, you see, we know, don 't we, AG? The Advertiser has been completely neutral over Save Coate. If you think it has been biased then I suggest you write to Dave King about that.I'm sure he would disagree with you. We're still busy with Save coate for the moment, thanks, to be tempted into Purton. But it's always worth bearing in mind.You've obviously been reading far to much of what that stupid jiver's been writing about. She thinks she knows me as well - neither of you could be farther from the truth. I notice however that you didn't try to contradict my bit about all the sarsen stones found where you live. No talk of a mini Avebury then. I used to live in Windsor Road many years ago and contrary to what jiver thinks, I have lived in Swindon all my life. I can remember very clearly when they blew up some large sarsen stones where Farleigh Crescent is now. You carry on though. Never let the facts get in the way of your NIMBYism.
"Carry on if you like..."
Does that mean you have no objection to me calling you Don Phillips?
If it suits you then it also suits me, and that is how i shall address you from now on.
I hope you will give Jiver the same priviledge ,since you say you don't mind as it is not your name?
But if my post is withdrawn then I shall know i have touched base!
Jock Strap
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7:19am Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky
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8:28am Mon 23 Mar 09
PeeveD
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9:29am Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:You Do.... unless of course "Flicky" is printed on your birth certificate.
Don Phillips, aka AG, You say people who know who you are are laughing at my stupidity. i would have thought, considering the offensive comments you have scattered over all the posts, that the last thing you would want is recognition and your real name revealed. If i had written some of your comments I , too, would be wanting ti hide behind a pseudonym.
Flicky
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9:48am Mon 23 Mar 09
PeeveD
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10:45am Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:I'm guessing it's not Flicky so that again makes you the massive hypocrite!
Not about your comments,Mr Peeved. No. They are not worth considering except as a pen portrait of your personality. Yor words speak volumes about you... How do you know what is on my birth certificate, Mr toffee, Mr Fudge etc.
Always Grumpy
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11:40am Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:But Felicity, you haven't revealed my real name, but you choose to ignore the fact.
Don Phillips,
aka AG,
You say people who know who you are are laughing at my stupidity.
i would have thought, considering the offensive comments you have scattered over all the posts, that the last thing you would want is recognition and your real name revealed.
If i had written some of your comments I , too, would be wanting ti hide behind a pseudonym.
Flicky
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12:01pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Always Grumpy wrote:That's fine with me , Don Phillips.
Flicky wrote: Don Phillips, aka AG, You say people who know who you are are laughing at my stupidity. i would have thought, considering the offensive comments you have scattered over all the posts, that the last thing you would want is recognition and your real name revealed. If i had written some of your comments I , too, would be wanting ti hide behind a pseudonym.But Felicity, you haven't revealed my real name, but you choose to ignore the fact.
Jock Strap
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1:11pm Mon 23 Mar 09
PeeveD
says...
2:26pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:Most of the houses in the Parks are council owned. These houses are allocated to people... they generally don't have a choice about where they live.
Always Grumpy wrote:That's fine with me , Don Phillips. That's the name I shall address you as from now on, seeing as you don't mind at all. I think I can bear the chuckles of laughter from your sad "friends". I have chosen to ignore nothing. Can anyone tell me which parts of Swindon were originally land belonging to the Coate farmers? From my conversation with one owner I gather that great swathes of the Park estate, Eldene and Covingham as well as Lawn were compulsorily purchased by SBC. So that must make an awful lot of NIMBYs, Mr PeeveD?Flicky wrote: Don Phillips, aka AG, You say people who know who you are are laughing at my stupidity. i would have thought, considering the offensive comments you have scattered over all the posts, that the last thing you would want is recognition and your real name revealed. If i had written some of your comments I , too, would be wanting ti hide behind a pseudonym.But Felicity, you haven't revealed my real name, but you choose to ignore the fact.
Flicky
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2:40pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:So why is it that people from Park South and North, Eldene, Covingham and Lawn have signed the petition in the way they have...with huge enthusiasm.????
Latest Scores:- Peeved 2 Flicks 0. Grumps 5 Flicks 3 Not a lot of thought goes on up there does is Flicky? You have won tonight's star prize for the understatement of the year! -Justification follows - Flicky wrote-> "From my conversation with one owner I gather that great swathes of the Park estate, Eldene and Covingham as well as Lawn were compulsorily purchased by SBC. So that must make an awful lot of NIMBYs, Mr PeeveD?" Err No flicks actually because the majority of all the resisents in those areas are not whinging about the Coate development in the obvious nimby way you are!
Flicky
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2:48pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky
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2:52pm Mon 23 Mar 09
PeeveD
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2:57pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:Usual refusal to answer a point then... just more proof of NIMBYISM and yes... selfishness and hypocrisy are two fine words that some you and your type up perfectly.
"pure selfishness and hypocracy"....such typical PeeveD words that reveal his occupation and character so well. I could almost compile a Peeved dictionary using lots of Enid Blyton - like words. toffee, fudge, hypocrite, blatant, and now pure selfishness and lemonade. All this vocabulary doesn't half give your age away, you know. It is so dated . Please provide some more...
PeeveD
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3:03pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:And how many of these people are complaining about the proposed development of the Purton area?
Jock Strap wrote: Latest Scores:- Peeved 2 Flicks 0. Grumps 5 Flicks 3 Not a lot of thought goes on up there does is Flicky? You have won tonight's star prize for the understatement of the year! -Justification follows - Flicky wrote-> "From my conversation with one owner I gather that great swathes of the Park estate, Eldene and Covingham as well as Lawn were compulsorily purchased by SBC. So that must make an awful lot of NIMBYs, Mr PeeveD?" Err No flicks actually because the majority of all the resisents in those areas are not whinging about the Coate development in the obvious nimby way you are!So why is it that people from Park South and North, Eldene, Covingham and Lawn have signed the petition in the way they have...with huge enthusiasm.???? Not all of these houses are council owned. In fact, apart from the Parks I should imagine that most houses are owner occupied. The enthusiasm for signing (and anger at the proposal) in all areas of Swindon was enormously high, and especially in these areas quoted. Why are you kidding yourself? I had to stop families from multi-signing petitions, they were so irate. You're not telling me that has escaped your notice?
Flicky
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6:23pm Mon 23 Mar 09
PeeveD wrote:"You made a fool of yourself up at the Marriott", says Mr PeeveD.
Flicky wrote: "pure selfishness and hypocracy"....such typical PeeveD words that reveal his occupation and character so well. I could almost compile a Peeved dictionary using lots of Enid Blyton - like words. toffee, fudge, hypocrite, blatant, and now pure selfishness and lemonade. All this vocabulary doesn't half give your age away, you know. It is so dated . Please provide some more...Usual refusal to answer a point then... just more proof of NIMBYISM and yes... selfishness and hypocrisy are two fine words that some you and your type up perfectly. You don't have to be of any particular age to recognize the truth. Maybe you should have looked a little closer at the truth before you made such a fool of yourself up at the Marriott.
Jock Strap
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6:38pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky
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6:51pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Flicky
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6:56pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:How sad that Mr Peeved has to have a friend along to back him up with ridiculous scores.
injury time being played - PeeveD 4 Flicks nil!
Flicky
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7:01pm Mon 23 Mar 09
Loveall
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7:38am Tue 24 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:I am not a 'friend' of Jock Strap but enjoy his updated scores. Flicky I do feel that you need to get a sense of humour. The majority of your postings lately have been bordering on being 'not nice' to people. You may not agree with what they are saying - and I do not agree with some things that are posted but instead of being rude would you not be better putting forward reasonable arguments to back up your views.
Jock Strap wrote:How sad that Mr Peeved has to have a friend along to back him up with ridiculous scores.
injury time being played - PeeveD 4 Flicks nil!
Can't he post on his own?
Does he really need support to face my replies?
Jock Strap
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1:06pm Tue 24 Mar 09
PeeveD
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3:00pm Tue 24 Mar 09
PeeveD
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4:13pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Flicky wrote:Since when do you reply to anything?
Jock Strap wrote: injury time being played - PeeveD 4 Flicks nil!How sad that Mr Peeved has to have a friend along to back him up with ridiculous scores. Can't he post on his own? Does he really need support to face my replies?
Jock Strap
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10:30pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Always Grumpy
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10:57pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Jock Strap wrote:I think this sadly deluded woman is miffed because everyone knows who she is and she hasn't got a clue who the rest of us are, despite what she might think.
Flicks -I'm just an independent observer - i don't know who AG Peeved - I too IRof E Jiver loveall or anybody is apart for your good self Mrs Felicity Cobb of windsor Road Lawn Swindon - friend of Hassan and JS of Longcot and the lady from Wanborough who used to come on here whinging about a couple of microlights -whatever happened to her Flicks?
Jock Strap
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8:03am Wed 25 Mar 09
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Jock Strap says...
9:29am Fri 20 Mar 09
“It would be criminal to surround these ancient relics of the past with modern buildings -NO IT WOULDN'T
Can Swindon afford to lose more of its history? -YES!
The problem was that English Heritage and the county archaeologist dropped their objections at the eleventh hour, so it no longer became an issue for the planning inspector.” _THEREFORE IT IS NOT AN ISSUE
Felicity Cobb, from the Save Coate campaign, said: “It would be nice if the planning inspector took this into account -NO IT Wouldn't!