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Street drug offer angers councillor

STALWART councillor Vera Tomlinson has spoken of her disgust after she was offered drugs from a man in Redhouse Village Centre.

Vera, who was elected in 2008 having retired to Swindon from her previous role as a councillor in Kidderminster, told of her disbelief after police rubbished reports that there was any kind of drug problem in the area.

Speaking at a meeting of the North Locality this week, North Locality Inspector Charlie Ducker said that, following reports from residents about drugs being dealt in the area, a CCTV camera was moved to try and catch the offenders.

He said: “I am happy to report that there isn’t a problem, but if anything drugs- related comes up we can pick it up on the camera.”

However, Coun Tomlinson disagreed and said she had witnessed the problem with her own eyes.

“I have seen young men selling packets of white substance from the back of a car and money being handed over for it,” she said.

“I am not imagining these things.

“A young, cheeky lad even asked me if I was stood waiting to buy some.

“What the police call no problem, I would say is a very serious problem in Redhouse because there are several schools around and the children use that Tesco store as their tuck shop – they go in there when these people are selling drugs.

“It is almost like an accident waiting to happen and I am not happy that it is not being seen as a problem.”

Insp Ducker said: “This is the kind of offence that will only be detected by intelligence coming in to us.

“If it is more of a problem than I have alluded to then I would be pleased to hear about it with as much information as possible.

“I can only assure you that, compared to other areas, it is not significant.

“I base that on the levels of arrests, the levels of intelligence and the level of information coming in to us, but I am not hiding from the fact that it may go on.”

Anyone who sees anybody acting suspiciously in the Redhouse area is asked to contact the police on 101.or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Comments(19)

LordAshOfTheBrake says...
11:38am Sat 4 Feb 12

Now Councillor Tomlinson knows how the rest of us feel due to successive governments being soft on criminals and throwing good money on rehabilitation and education which simply isn't working.

A new approach please. With her son being an MP, perhaps he can raise this in parliament!

I 2 Could B says...
11:44am Sat 4 Feb 12

The police believe there's no problem because they say things like:

“This is the kind of offence that will only be detected by intelligence coming in to us."

And then whenever a member of the public contacts them to provide information the police always reply:

"There's nothing we can do without evidence."

The public are becoming very, very aware of just how the police and courts are failing us.

Any police officer who says of drug dealing:

"I am not hiding from the fact that it MAY go on."

Really has to be viewed with extreme suspicion.

dglaholm says...
1:21pm Sat 4 Feb 12

ACPO The body that represents very senior police officers has asked the Govenment to review the drugs war as it is not being won.
There was a pilot scheme a couple of years ago where addicts were given drugs and crime in the area fell dramatically.
Its time for an adult converation on how to deal with this problem.

I 2 Could B says...
2:28pm Sat 4 Feb 12

Yes, I'm sure the police would definitely favour decriminalising all the areas of crime that they're not very good at policing.

Maybe if we gave car thieves free cars there'd be no car theft.

Maybe if women legally had to have sex with anyone who asks there'd be no rape.

I'm sure they'd draw the line at letting motorists do 33mph on a clear, empty stretch of road in a 30mph zone though.

MrAngry says...
2:42pm Sat 4 Feb 12

dglaholm wrote:
ACPO The body that represents very senior police officers has asked the Govenment to review the drugs war as it is not being won.
There was a pilot scheme a couple of years ago where addicts were given drugs and crime in the area fell dramatically.
Its time for an adult converation on how to deal with this problem.
The war on drugs is being lost so surrender.

There is another solution. If they get caught stealing - lock them up - and crime rates will fall. If they reoffend on release - lock them again and for longer.

MrAngry says...
3:03pm Sat 4 Feb 12

I 2 Could B wrote:
Yes, I'm sure the police would definitely favour decriminalising all the areas of crime that they're not very good at policing.

Maybe if we gave car thieves free cars there'd be no car theft.

Maybe if women legally had to have sex with anyone who asks there'd be no rape.

I'm sure they'd draw the line at letting motorists do 33mph on a clear, empty stretch of road in a 30mph zone though.
Absolutely.

Locking up serious offenders costs money so they get let off with community orders or tiny fines which are they pay back at £1 a week.

Commit a minor driving offence, parking offence, drop litter or heaven forbid put your recycling box out the wrong day and you can expect a £60 -£80 fine.

The justice system is being defined by the ability to pay.

I 2 Could B says...
3:05pm Sat 4 Feb 12

@MrAngry: exactly. The police know it, the judiciary knows it, the politicians know it and the public know it:

When you lock convicted criminals up for lengthy periods of time they are unable to commit more crimes against the public.

The entire problem is caused specifically due to unduly lenient sentencing based on Sentencing Guidelines that are already lenient and which are used as a means to a 'race to the bottom' by judges who appear to view handing down the most lenient sentences possible as some kind of medal-worthy achievement.

Before the last general election, Cameron talked tough about *minimum* sentences (as opposed to maximum sentences) in order to stop judges being so unduly lenient. What happened to the promise?

Build more prisons, put more criminals in them and for longer periods of time and sit back and watch the crime rate fall.

It's not rocket science.

Peter Mallinson says...
3:59pm Sat 4 Feb 12

Why build more prisons. Use the hot bed principal, 3 prisoners share one bed. It belong to each one for 8 hours / day on rotation. If this is done then we could get more prisoners into a given space. This is what happens in our Royal Navy submarines, so lets try it in our prisons. It may be a little uncomfortable but only for the prisoners !

LordAshOfTheBrake says...
4:40pm Sat 4 Feb 12

Unfortunately the liberals in society would never allow prison to be harsh and uncomfortable.

The whole criminal justice system is rotten to the core and no one has the balls to sort it out.

house on the hill says...
7:52pm Sat 4 Feb 12

Well said Lord Ash, hit the nail right on the head.

house on the hill says...
7:54pm Sat 4 Feb 12

As for the Councillors "disgust" this just proves how remote form the real world too many of our politicians are. That is an every day real world occurence and if you are not aware of it what the hell are you doing as a councillor as you have no chance of sorting out real problems.

itsamess says...
8:15pm Sat 4 Feb 12

I wonder if the astute councillor called the police-gave descriptions and the registration number of the vehicle these people were dealing from?

Hmmmf says...
9:03pm Sat 4 Feb 12

"The war on drugs" is just a cheesy soundbite, and the claim that "it's being lost" is more often than not uttered by the criminal drug user/dealer who doesn't like the fact that doing the crime might eventually result in doing the time. There's no more a 'war on drugs' in the UK than there is a 'war on theft' or a 'war on murder' or a 'war on benefit fraud.' There are crimes, and if you're caught, you should expect to be prosecuted (and then be given a sixth or seventh 'last chance' if convicted, especially if you own a dog). Squinnying that your particular crime should be legalised just because you want to be able to do it with impunity is just puerile. Claiming that your particular crime should be legalised because 'lots of people do it' just means that the deterrent (and punishment on conviction) needs to be tougher.

Shhh says...
7:41pm Sun 5 Feb 12

This does not surprise me, Redhouse is the next penhill/parks. So many chavs living there

itsamess says...
12:24am Mon 6 Feb 12

Some of the results of imprisonment are many are recruited as soldiers for drug dealers-because they have little to no chance of getting a good job after being in prison. So a life on benefits for them.

Robfm says...
7:51am Mon 6 Feb 12

So what are you advocating less prison time.

Build more prisons and make life, etc mean what it says. Of course it's expensive but so is allowing society to denigrate into a situation when people come onto a public forum advocating vigilantism, as opposed to involving the police.

When a society reaches that point anarchy reigns and 'different' perceptions of right and wrong take over.

Hmmmf says...
11:24am Mon 6 Feb 12

Society is reaching that point already, Robfm, but not because people wanted it. "The Authorities" are making it happen with measures such as 'dog walking police,' 'community justice panels', powerless PCSOs, ASBOs... the list goes on. And all in the name of money and fear of the EU courts.
.
It's odd that when the population of this country was low and life therefore a little more precious for its relative scarcity, the punishment for many offences was death. Perhaps they understood back then how one rotten apple could spoil the barrel. Today, with the population exploding towards 70 million, real punishments appear to be reserved only for the most heinous of crimes, the rest are handed a 'get out of jail free' card in the last chance saloon. But we do get to call ourselves 'civilised', which is all very nice.

cherryblossom says...
12:03pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Shhh wrote:
This does not surprise me, Redhouse is the next penhill/parks. So many chavs living there
Shhh, you are absolutely correct....that area is a nightmare!, I know many people who have moved away from the area because their kids cant play in the park anymore because they have been bullied by older nasty kids, and the shops is surrounded by flats mostly occupied by the less desirable that the housing association have put there ....I have witnessed people being spat on from the flats above, speakers being thrown out of the windows, food being thrown at people walking into the shop, that place is hell!!! needless to say no longer go near the place!!

itsamess says...
4:49pm Mon 6 Feb 12

Prisons have changed dramatically over the years. My first visit quite some time ago was a lecture as to the affects of the 2 bombs on japan and the future of peaceful use of the power. The second part being the opportunities opening up in the industry and offering courses to those who met the criteria. Many applied for the correspondence course and many made it through to research programmes--engineer
s--construction engineers--electrici
ans.
Today lack of work in the prisons
converting most cells to single occupancy and allowing cell phones computers is more like home. Prisoners used to go out to farms etc on work duty.
Todays prisons are a home from home--full of drugs etc and learning the mistakes of others to avoid being caught again.
Certain crimes i do believe should see the perps never released. How to resolve the others--no idea. But clearly prison is no longer a deterrent.

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