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Hotel and ski slope planned for Oasis (From Swindon Advertiser)
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Hotel and ski slope planned for Oasis
10:50am Wednesday 8th February 2012 in News By David Wiles
A HOTEL, indoor arena, indoor ski slope and water park are planned as part of a £65m project to turn the run-down Oasis Leisure Centre into a regional leisure destination.
Moirai Capital Investments a property developer specialising in leisure and entertainments, has been identified by Swindon Council as the preferred developer to refurbish the old centre and later provide other leisure facilities at the site.
Projections show the development could attract up to four million visitors a year from across the UK and create up to 1,700 jobs.
And to enhance the project, the council is also considering building a £4m pedestrian bridge that would link the Oasis to the town centre over the railway line.
Swindon Council’s Cabinet will be asked on Wednesday, February 15 to approve the project, which could start as soon as the summer and finish by the end of 2014.
Coun Keith Williams, the cabinet member for leisure and corporate services, said: “This proposal has the potential to be one of the most exciting developments Swindon has seen for many years.
“This is a great opportunity to breathe new life into our leisure offer and bring significant benefits to the local economy.”
Moirai was identified as the preferred private developer for the leisure scheme following a bid process which was evaluated by council officers, councillors, ward members and Cabinet members.
The Moirai team is led by Martin Barber, who was the founder and developer of the X-scape brand, which was behind the Milton Keynes, Castleford and Braehead indoor ski slopes and has also developed a further 20 leisure parks.
The project would be carried out in three phases lasting about a year each. The Oasis, including its iconic dome roof, would be refurbished in the first year, with the other facilities built later on the adjoining former Clares factory site.
Moirai has indicated it has firm interest from potential operators/occupiers for 60 per cent of the site and is working with existing centre users to accommodate them in the plans.
If councillors approve the plan, the council would enter into a collaboration agreement and grant four long-term leases covering the Oasis and the former Clares site.
If the key targets are not met in delivering the new facilities, the council can take back the leases.
But, if all goes to plan, the Oasis building will eventually be handed over to the developer, with the freehold on the Clares site staying in council ownership.
The council will also receive income from granting the leases. All the cash investment in the scheme, which will also include leisure and sports-related retail facilities, will come from Moirai.
A total of 400 full-time and 600 part-time positions are expected to be created, with the rest in construction and ongoing supported activity associated with the development.
The council plans to transfer across the 65 posts currently at the Oasis.
Martin Barber, who is leading the Moirai development team, said: “This is a wonderful opportunity for Swindon to achieve a truly exciting range of leisure and entertainment opportunities.
“We shall create a development of which the town can justifiably be proud. It will establish Swindon as a major player in leisure, and will attract significant numbers of visitors to the town.”
Comments(86)
Robfm
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11:53am Wed 8 Feb 12
Even the most prestigious of our local hotels are slashing their rates by 50%+ and/or closing down whole floors.
Swindon_AOK
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11:55am Wed 8 Feb 12
But they have the right team in place for a snow facility and fingers crossed as it would be fantastic for Swindon.
Swindon_AOK
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11:58am Wed 8 Feb 12
But to think that two departments would actually talk to each other on a development of this size may be asking too much.
SwindonTartanArmy
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12:00pm Wed 8 Feb 12
dc the 2nd
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12:00pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:you might want to declare your interest on that point as a hotel owner
So what is this going to cost the rate payer. Yet another hotel, doesn't Forward Swindon ever consult the various sectors, the last thing Swindon needs is more hotels.
Even the most prestigious of our local hotels are slashing their rates by 50%+ and/or closing down whole floors.
SomeoneWhoIsntMe
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12:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12
The-Swindon-Man
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12:18pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Robfm
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12:30pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Our market place is totally different. As for declaring an interest, I thought that was a given, as most on here know who I am, thanks to the promotion of our business by a few on here.
PaulD
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12:33pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Robfm
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12:42pm Wed 8 Feb 12
rmc001
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12:44pm Wed 8 Feb 12
I Too
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1:00pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:That's irellevant as you have no customers.
dc the 2nd we are not in the town centre, where there is huge over capacity.
Our market place is totally different. As for declaring an interest, I thought that was a given, as most on here know who I am, thanks to the promotion of our business by a few on here.
I'm meeting Dans' brother later
Robfm
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1:05pm Wed 8 Feb 12
As for no customers more lies I Too, we have 5 who are here week in week out and have in most cases for up to 20 months.
But we know truth is an alien concept to you don't we.
itsamess
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2:08pm Wed 8 Feb 12
As for bobbies claims--well contradicting himself in the same sentence says it all--and i pass there either late at night or early morning and rarely see any cars in the car park. How his cctv system has not clocked my car going past daily is amazing as he did claim recently to have full coverage of the road both ways.
Always Grumpy
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2:57pm Wed 8 Feb 12
rmc001 wrote:Have you walked along that tunnel route lately? Thought not. It's a filthy, dimly lit and dangerous place to be in the daytime, let alone when it's dark. A new, brightly lit, clean and safe footbridge is desperately needed.
Why does the new leisure centre need a footbridge over the railway to join it with the town, when there's a perfectly good tunnel/cycle path that already links it? What it really needs is a bridge to join the Oasis with the Outlet Village as presently there is no direct route.
A.Baron-Cohen
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3:05pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Now Swindon council must act proactively to support this plan, by upgrading Great Western Way and introducing residents parking in the Rodbourne area
I Too
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3:05pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:That's irrelevant as you have no customers.
dc the 2nd we are not in the town centre, where there is huge over capacity.
Our market place is totally different. As for declaring an interest, I thought that was a given, as most on here know who I am, thanks to the promotion of our business by a few on here.
I'm meeting Dans' brother later
rmc001
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4:47pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Always Grumpy wrote:Yes I have many times, and you're right, it is filthy, dimly lit, and at times may be dangerous, but it's better than the direct link between the Outlet and the Oasis which is non-existant.
rmc001 wrote:Have you walked along that tunnel route lately? Thought not. It's a filthy, dimly lit and dangerous place to be in the daytime, let alone when it's dark. A new, brightly lit, clean and safe footbridge is desperately needed.
Why does the new leisure centre need a footbridge over the railway to join it with the town, when there's a perfectly good tunnel/cycle path that already links it? What it really needs is a bridge to join the Oasis with the Outlet Village as presently there is no direct route.
PJC
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4:51pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Make progress
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8:25pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Well done Swindon what a way to spend money well done
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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9:16pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Most on here know who I am, thanks to the promotion of our business by a few on here.
Err, yes.. but not a few, just you.
This is probably the main reason why you are a hate-figure on these comment sections Robbo, you are a bald-headed braggadocio. Anyone else commenting on your self-aggrandising persona will invariably make it derogatory.
You promote yourself and your business on here at every conceivable opportunity.
You even had the gall to post that pathetic video of your dingy pub (with a dead dog in the dining area) recently in an attempt to promote yourself on a thread about local firemen!
How despicable!
And even more recently you saw fit to mention that your profits where up (like you're going to tell the truth pffft..) on a thread about homeless people.
You horrible troll.
I Too
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9:26pm Wed 8 Feb 12
Doesn't look very busy in this picture, taken on a sunny Saturday afternoon.
http://m.flickr.com/
#/photos/73970391@N0
3/6704603859/in/set-
72157628887121529/
I Too
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12:17am Thu 9 Feb 12
Contrary to your statement Actually Bob YOU KEEP DIGGING.
For all your posturing and vindictive efforts, there is still an almighty twist in this little charade.
You might want to quit playing bully boy, victim, bully boy, victim, and think about who has said what, who's contacted who, etc.
In the meantime, I really couldn't care less where you think I am.
In fact very soon a YouTube video clip will be available for you to letch over me :):):):)
I Too
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2:22am Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm
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8:39am Thu 9 Feb 12
I Too
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9:58am Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:So it's "victim" mode today then?
Well another thread ruined.
Bully, victim, bully, victim, bully, victim?
Make your mind up.
Nobody reading your attempts to hijack these threads, as your backfiring publicity machine, are fooled for a second.
There is only one individual at the centre of EVERY thread crash on here. That person is YOU.
The other Oasis Revamp thread went well because YOU were not on it.
Robfm
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10:11am Thu 9 Feb 12
Jim Royle
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10:15am Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:By you as usual.
Well another thread ruined.
Robfm
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10:42am Thu 9 Feb 12
DPW1976
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11:11am Thu 9 Feb 12
If so it will be a wast of money.
Jim Royle
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11:44am Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:Every page ruined has you at the centre of it. Don't preach to me about observational skills considering your blunders on here.
Not very good observational skills then Jim. Try looking at 1pm yesterday. I Too took it off thread. The rest followed.
Robfm
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11:53am Thu 9 Feb 12
Anyway having a good leisure facility is certainly a good idea but we as rate payers shouldn't subsidise it.
Let the developers have the land but no further public resources.
Jim Royle
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1:02pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:Was this comment on topic?
Well another thread ruined.
Practice what you preach you hypocrite. Sick of reading your ****
Robfm
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1:23pm Thu 9 Feb 12
itsamess
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3:31pm Thu 9 Feb 12
What do you expect when you are attacking just about everyone on every thread--they cannot all be liars--can they bobby.
itsamess
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3:37pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm
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5:23pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I have produced the link that clearly shows the position, you have produced nothing other than a set of figures you could simply have made up.
itsamess
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5:41pm Thu 9 Feb 12
So--is it my fault you took your eye off the ball?
After all how can a hotel with far better facilities than you and have a late bar--24 hour room service and less train noise be cheaper than you.
But of course-YOU used to claim all those facilities were at your place--a simple matter of forgetting to mention they were not actually on site--until you were reported for misleading advertising.
Robfm
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5:47pm Thu 9 Feb 12
So one company produces all banner cookies on the net. You really are a fool, there are literally hundreds of such companies.
itsamess
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5:57pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Robfm
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6:06pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Anyway the link that proves you wrong.
http://www.tripadvis
or.co.uk/HACSearch?g
eo=187049&inDay=10&i
nMonth=02%2F2012&che
ckIn=dd%2Fmm%2Fyyyy&
outDay=12&outMonth=0
2%2F2012&checkOut=dd
%2Fmm%2Fyyyy&searchA
ll=true&adults=2&cat
_1=1&geo=187049&refi
neForm=true&hs=&sort
Order=popularity&ava
ilability=&tb=0&add_
location_input_filte
r=&l1currency=2&prop
Type=on&trating_0=0&
zfc_0=0&zfa_0=0&unea
r=&snear=&nameContai
ns=&zfb_0=0&zfb_0=0#
02,1328810520620,bc_
airports:S,bc_conven
tion_centers:S,nameC
ontains:S,cat:-1,tb:
S0,sa:-1,sortOrder:S
priceLow
itsamess
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6:35pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I need no links--take it up with TA or 'criteo'
I do not need to repeat what i have already told you--you are not the cheapest--beaten by 4 others. FACT.
Robfm
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6:48pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I have provided the link that categorically shows that on TA's web page for Swindon we are the cheapest of the 34 establishments included.
As for taking it up with criteo, why they are merely the platform being used, they probably don't even produce the ads.
itsamess
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7:17pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Just checked the 34 hotels--yes you do need glasses--all list lowest to highest--very many cheaper than you--including mercure.
Trip Advisor
Swindon Hotels
34
look down the list--you are not the cheapest--got it!!!
Oh--i downloaded several of the comments--thats the ones with your usual grammatical errors-will have someone check them out.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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9:11pm Thu 9 Feb 12
The sooner you are banned the better Robbo, your exploitation of these pages is beyond a joke you cheapskate carpetbagger.
Lets hope this new development scheme brings some much needed interest back to the town with some quality hotel space to go with it. The last thing young vibrant people want is to stay in some dingy hole on the outskirts of town with a dead dog in the dining area and nobody at the bar.
I Too
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9:17pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Make progress
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12:49am Fri 10 Feb 12
Robfm
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6:53am Fri 10 Feb 12
Mercure Swindon South Marston Hotel & Spa
£41 - £68 per night*
Ranked #14 of 34 hotels in Swindon
145 reviews
“Mercure Stay” 30/11/2011
The Carpenters Arms Motel
£30 - £75 per night*
Ranked #2 of 34 hotels in Swindon
29 reviews
“Homely Christmas Lunch!” 29/12/2011
And even if you take off the 20% offer on the Holiday Inn places they are all still dearer.
Nothing more to say, other than once again you fail to substantiate anything you claim.
I Too
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8:31am Fri 10 Feb 12
Nobody is going to read your comments on here and think "oh I must visit the pub where the landlord stays on here all day and causes people to lose their job"
Give it a rest. Idiot
Robfm
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8:42am Fri 10 Feb 12
itsamess
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9:56am Fri 10 Feb 12
Being the ratings are on reviews and due to the recent ASA report which centred on reviews i have sent off numerous examples of common mistakes which are highly suspicious. I find it very hard to believe why comments are posted by persons
who simply ate there are commenting about rooms etc. Several other 'comments' prove lies you have told here. Your style is unmistakeable.
Robfm
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10:20am Fri 10 Feb 12
As for reviews 100% genuine. Why would people comment on food, because they can. Only one who commented on food as the lead comment made reference to rooms, because as the review stated they had relatives who have stayed with us.
That individual is/ (now retired) an extremely highly respected member of Swindon Colleges lecturing staff until he retired, the function was his leaving lunch.
I am more than happy to put you in touch with these people. In fact I think I will email them and get them to email your 'friends' email address.
spammer01
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10:28am Fri 10 Feb 12
I_luv_chips_me
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10:33am Fri 10 Feb 12
spammer01 wrote:???
why we need this swindon we not gain anything apart from jobs we need something better than that
Always Grumpy
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12:12pm Fri 10 Feb 12
spammer01 wrote:Assuming you are writing in English (which is far from certain), what is it you do want, apart from English lessons?
why we need this swindon we not gain anything apart from jobs we need something better than that
nikkinoakes
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12:37pm Fri 10 Feb 12
The Oasis is in desparate need of a refurb and the ski facility will be fantastic for all of us who live in/around the town and can only be a great promotional tool for visitors while creating jobs at the same time!
Robfm
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12:42pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
says...
7:49pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:What an unbelievable doom-monger you are Robbo - the place hasn't even been properly planned yet but you are delighted to report that there are already "problems".
There is no doubt this facility will be good, however it's throwing up problems already with several long term sporting groups not apparently being told if they can stay in the new complex or not.
Why don't you stfu and serve some customers.
Oh of course... you don't have any.
itsamess
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10:08pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Bob
It remains you are quoted as higher priced than far superior hotels--your rating will begin to drop when the ASAs directions are applied. There again i doubt you will be there much longer.
nikkinoakes
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10:33pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:Why, oh wyh do people always have to focus on the negatives of something which is still in the planning stages and still has things to finalise, yet alone be approved......!
There is no doubt this facility will be good, however it's throwing up problems already with several long term sporting groups not apparently being told if they can stay in the new complex or not.
There is enough doom and gloom in the current climate and having something like this developement that could be fantastic is something we should be embracing
Robfm
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9:30am Sat 11 Feb 12
These clubs have been there for years.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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9:54am Sat 11 Feb 12
This could be great for Swindon but all you can see are problems with groups you have no care or connection with.
Robfm
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10:12am Sat 11 Feb 12
What a altruistic soul you are.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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10:31am Sat 11 Feb 12
Scrumping
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1:11pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Time for another TA review methinks .... after all we need to keep scum in their place!
itsamess
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3:17pm Sat 11 Feb 12
The ASA have said they know most of the comments are written by the owners to boost their rating--they say they can never seem to contact any of the people commenting--wonder why?
Scrumping
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3:33pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Robfm
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6:03pm Sat 11 Feb 12
As for my reviews 100% genuine, feel free to use the links provided my each reviewer.
I Too
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6:36pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Did I say KIR? I meant Daniel10.
No wait! It's Robfm, the biggest fantasist of all.
Anyway, obviously empty car park again.
Never mind. I'm off out now. Having a life
Robfm
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6:48pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Shouldn't you be saving your money, that's the sensible thing to do in your position.
Scrumping
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7:46pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Jim Royle
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7:52pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Chrisg46
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10:05pm Sat 11 Feb 12
If you want to do him harm, stop giving him the oxygen of publicity and dragging EVERY single thread he comments on off-topic and away at random tangents. This was actually a refeshing topic until the usual suspects started again.
Please for the love of God, just give it a rest - after the several years of sniping at each other to no effect whatsoever, it is just boring.
Scrumping
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11:57pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Chrisg46 wrote:No son you are wrong. People are actively boycotting his miserable little bar after we highlighted his antics on these pages. His most repulsive act was denigrating the Remembrance Sunday Thread. After that low act we will continue until he ceases.
You lot do realise you are giving Rob more PR than he could possibly pay for, short of getting concorde to do sky writing over Swindon! He never mentioned his own hotel; you did.
If you want to do him harm, stop giving him the oxygen of publicity and dragging EVERY single thread he comments on off-topic and away at random tangents. This was actually a refeshing topic until the usual suspects started again.
Please for the love of God, just give it a rest - after the several years of sniping at each other to no effect whatsoever, it is just boring.
I Too
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12:08am Sun 12 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:The car park was empty as usual.
Oh dear, best get those eyes tested I Too.
Shouldn't you be saving your money, that's the sensible thing to do in your position.
Nothing wrong with my eyesight.
Are you so dense that you forgot about my CAA medical?
Yes you are.
I have no cause to worry about saving money at this point in time.
I have always worked for a living and invested wisely.
I have hundreds of contacts within engineering, aviation, and entertainment circles.
So nothing to worry about at all
As for the publicity on here, nobody wants to stay at a pub with a regularly empty car park and a landlord that spends more time posting on here than he does at the bar.
That's why the car park IS always empty
Anyway, it's nice to (briefly) have some spare time on my hands.
I will put it to good use ;-)
Robfm
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9:09am Sun 12 Feb 12
Times are tough across the accommodation sector in Swindon at the moment as elsewhere in the County. We are holding are own on that front.
I know it suits some to pretend and as Chris has said, I have no need to publicise our place, you lot do it for us.
I would also like to thank him/her for pointing out the reality that this was a good thread UNTIL!!!.
Knobfm
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9:40am Sun 12 Feb 12
Everyone else is off thread.
The comments I made on the Remembrance Sunday thread gave me some great publicity.
We tripled our custom to
3 people including my son.
Anyone that disagees with me is a fantasist. Whatever that means
Robfm
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9:51am Sun 12 Feb 12
Chrisg46
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9:58am Sun 12 Feb 12
Robfm
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10:09am Sun 12 Feb 12
Just another number
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12:15pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Don't you have anything better to do with your life then to post inflammatory comments and taunt people? Poor chap, you must have a sad life to need to be like that.
Shall we get this back on thread folks?
The Snowdome is one of the many Swindon projects that seems exist for nothing more than political posturing. Has anyone else noticed that it's only ever dragged out of the dust whenever a diversion is needed from some failure or to shore up the façade of the Council?
It's been happening since 2004 -- if the Council was ever really intending to act on it as a legitimate project, wouldn't it have happened by now?
In a few weeks it'll be forgotten again, left to gather dust, only to be dragged out again when there's a need for managing public opinion.
I Too
says...
1:49am Mon 13 Feb 12
If any development goes ahead, it will more than likely be hundreds of flats on the Claires site in exchange for a coat of paint on The Oasis.
Such is SBCs' pandering to developers.
spammer01
says...
8:18pm Mon 13 Feb 12
we need more support on drug users
in our town then waste money on silly projects things we need urgent off
itsamess
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8:52pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Always Grumpy
says...
8:18am Tue 14 Feb 12
spammer01 wrote:I see you still haven't quite got to grips with our language yet.
i say no swindon council to ski slope .
we need more support on drug users
in our town then waste money on silly projects things we need urgent off
I_luv_chips_me says...
11:43am Wed 8 Feb 12