Mystery four interest in buying club (From Swindon Advertiser)
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SWINDON TOWN: Mystery four interest in buying club
6:00am Tuesday 22nd January 2013 in Sport By Sam Morshead
Four mystery parties are believed to be interested in buying Swindon Town
SWINDON Town’s search for a new owner continues with at least four parties showing interest in the acquiring a controlling stake in the club, the Advertiser understands.
Owner Andrew Black is looking to sell a large chunk of his 98 per cent holding in the Robins and, although the identities of the interested parties remain a mystery, there are believed to be two serious potential bidders discussing the prospect of buying into the club. Both are understood to be foreign investors.
Town have substantial debts to major shareholders, but owe no money to HMRC or creditors and have no bank overdraft, and chief executive Nick Watkins has branded the chance to take control of the club as a “unique investment opportunity”.
The Swindon board met on Saturday to discuss the intended sale of the Robins, and both director Russell Backhouse and Watkins are understood to be talking to interested parties. No letters of intent have yet been received, although the process is expected to accelerate as the week progresses.
Meanwhile, Town were last night waiting to discover the results of Danny Hollands’ second scan on a foot injury picked up in the 2-0 victory over Shrewsbury on Saturday. In the aftermath of the game there were fears the midfielder could have suffered a broken metatarsal.
Comments(38)
Davidsyrett
says...
8:56am Tue 22 Jan 13
I assume these are loans that need to be paid back, that puts a slightly different light on it all. I'm guessing that if AB pulled out, Swindon will still owe him money to pay back the loans, hence administration.
Lets hope this is sorted out quickly, Uneasy feeling this morning.
jontyg
says...
9:06am Tue 22 Jan 13
Andrew Black is a saint who saved STFC from certain doom.
Let's take a look at the approx figures:-
Income:- £2m
Outgoings:- £4m
It doesn't look good does it.
All of Black's so called mates have jumped ship and left him to deal with it alone.
No wonder he wants out.
Let's just hope we don't go into administration.
Patey wants a bidding war!!
What a joke!!!
deviant in the tupping pen
says...
9:12am Tue 22 Jan 13
Davidsyrett wrote:If it allays your fears a little David, AB in his interview last week did hint that he would be willing to take a hit on his investment when/if a sale goes through.
"Town have substantial debts to major shareholders,"
I assume these are loans that need to be paid back, that puts a slightly different light on it all. I'm guessing that if AB pulled out, Swindon will still owe him money to pay back the loans, hence administration.
Lets hope this is sorted out quickly, Uneasy feeling this morning.
SAPFanSTFC
says...
9:12am Tue 22 Jan 13
jontyg wrote:If those figures were accurate then we would be in admin already as it wouldn't be a viable business..a £2 million deficit of revenue v expenses sounds a bit on the high side to me.
This consortium or whatever who takes over the club will have to have deep pockets.
Andrew Black is a saint who saved STFC from certain doom.
Let's take a look at the approx figures:-
Income:- £2m
Outgoings:- £4m
It doesn't look good does it.
All of Black's so called mates have jumped ship and left him to deal with it alone.
No wonder he wants out.
Let's just hope we don't go into administration.
Patey wants a bidding war!!
What a joke!!!
...
You also have to look at the asset value on the books as this club now have at least £3 million worth of assets that could be realised compared with less than £1 million when PDC took charge.
Davidsyrett
says...
9:17am Tue 22 Jan 13
jontyg wrote:Exactly, People were giving SWP all sorts of grief yesterday, but this is not going to be an easy sell. The only way we will ever get out losing money year on year is a new ground, all investors will see that. So £13M to pay of share holders, a few years of losing money, New Stadium £25/20M, so probably needing to invest £40M+ before getting some returns. Unless a far Eastern consortium is found I cant see anyone investing that type of money.
This consortium or whatever who takes over the club will have to have deep pockets.
Andrew Black is a saint who saved STFC from certain doom.
Let's take a look at the approx figures:-
Income:- £2m
Outgoings:- £4m
It doesn't look good does it.
All of Black's so called mates have jumped ship and left him to deal with it alone.
No wonder he wants out.
Let's just hope we don't go into administration.
Patey wants a bidding war!!
What a joke!!!
ShearerShearer
says...
9:34am Tue 22 Jan 13
eastmidsred
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10:21am Tue 22 Jan 13
old town robin
says...
10:43am Tue 22 Jan 13
eastmidsred wrote:Or sell our assets, which is the route we took with Cox and Austin. None of us want to see that, but it is a reality.
If we don't find generous owners the only way we'll ever stop losing money is to attract bigger crowds and to live within our means!!!!
Unfortunately with the loss of jobs at Honda and other companies associated with them, as much as I would like ot see us getting 10,000 crowds on a regular basis i don't see it happening this season at least.
ChrisWantageRed
says...
11:44am Tue 22 Jan 13
mallorca
says...
11:52am Tue 22 Jan 13
What is of concern if club aint sold within a certain time limit I fear AB will pull the plug and then only option would be administratio.
One good point if you can call it that is AB is the only creditor and hopefully he will hang in there until at least he get's something back
eastmidsred
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11:53am Tue 22 Jan 13
old town robin wrote:You're absolutely right. None of us want to see Ritchie or anyone else sold, although it's how Wimbledon survived on low crowlds in the old 1st division for years. I'm sure that JW's business plan was probably based on 'success and attractive football will increase average crowds to around 10,000 and even more to sustain us in the Championship.
eastmidsred wrote:Or sell our assets, which is the route we took with Cox and Austin. None of us want to see that, but it is a reality.
If we don't find generous owners the only way we'll ever stop losing money is to attract bigger crowds and to live within our means!!!!
Unfortunately with the loss of jobs at Honda and other companies associated with them, as much as I would like ot see us getting 10,000 crowds on a regular basis i don't see it happening this season at least.
It isn't happening and obviously the economic climate is part of this. Andrew Black obviously doesn't want to continue to fund a 'black hole'.
Unlike when I was a kid in the 50's, football is not at the heart of the Swindon community and our core support currently is around 8,000. Probably would rise to 10k in the Championship and more when big teams come. Sadly, we're not a Norwich but that's not to say we can't get there. After all we managed to do it in the early 90's with Ardiles and Hoddle. Definitely need a good Sheik!
Rebel_phish
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1:17pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Its all a numbers game. You want to get more bums on seats for more atmosphere - and revenue. The higher up the leagues you go, you expect bigger gates and clubs think they need to charge more per ticket.
Currently match-day tickets are £25/£19, less for concessions. Which in this economic climate can be a bit of a struggle.
If promotion is achieved then one would expect the match-day prices to rise to, oh, I dont know, say to £28/£22. Will we get a crowd of 10k+ at those prices? I dont think so. Even with the draw of teams like QPR, Reading (I know they're in the Prem, but for how long?), Middlesborough, Blackpool, Leeds et al. Fans will pick and choose their matches even more carefully than they are now.
Increase in ticket prices does not necessarily equal more revenue. If ticket prices stay the same next season (they wont) and promotion is achieved then 9.5/10K crowds could be the norm. If prices do go up, then I wonder if we would get above 8.5k.
Prospective investors have to take all this into account. They also have to keep in mind how many actually made good money in general from a football club.
SAPFanSTFC
says...
1:21pm Tue 22 Jan 13
ChrisWantageRed wrote:Cheers Chris - Fernham Red has also had one apparently - I'll look forward to receiving mine and to seeing the letter in the FLP next Sunday!!
As an aside chaps. I have just received an email from David Emery (FLP editor), who says Chris Dunlavy is currently writing an apology for the paper
Reading_Robin
says...
1:27pm Tue 22 Jan 13
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM, David Emery wrote:
I understand your complaint fully and we are in the process of making remedies. Chris Dunlavy is writing an apology in the paper and we have contacted Swindon Town FC.
Ironically, Chris Dunlavy has always been a champion of Swindon; in this instance his zeal to criticise clubs who live beyond their means has carried him away to make clearly unfounded, and deeply regretted, statements about the club.
His intention had been to raise the wider issue of insolvency and debt in football, and more precisely the need for clubs to move towards self-sustainability.
He saw Sir William Patey’s reported comments about administration and used this as the basis for his remarks. He chose the wrong target.
David Emery
From: Tom ****
Sent: 22 January 2013 11:23
To: David.emery@theleagu
epaper.com
Cc: chris.dunlavy@thelea
guepaper.com
Subject: The Football League Paper - Sunday 20th January 2013
Dear Mr Emery,
I am writing in reference to the article in this week's issue of your publication titled "Swindon: the 'cheats' who really prospered".
I am a regular reader of your publication. As a supporter and member of a football club outside of the Premier League (Swindon Town FC), printed news for all but the transfer of some player or another to a Premier League team is impossible to find in the mainstream press, and your newspaper, in my opinion fills a necessary gap. Unfortunately, after reading the above article on Sunday, I will not be purchasing The Football League Paper again.
I am disappointed that, as editor, you allowed a piece with such obvious lack of evidential substance to be printed. This article represents lazy, sensationalist journalism, and is incorrect in the bare facts of the article. I am especially referring to the following sections:
"Every time Swindon added to their wage bill (currently around £3m a year), they knew somebody else was going unpaid. They were spending money they didn't have, otherwise known as financial doping."
"... how would you feel knowing Swindon virtually cheated their way out of the division? "
"Nevertheless, the fact remains that the Robins have behaved immorally"
To the above quotations from the article, I would like to make clear the following points of fact:
On "somebody else was going unpaid":
The debts owed by Swindon Town Football Club are owed to the majority shareholders of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd http://www.companies
intheuk.co.uk/ltd/sw
indon-town-football-
company, the Board members of Swindon Town Football Club have stated in the local and national media that the football club does NOT:
* Owe any monies to HMRC
* Have a bank overdraft
* Have any major creditor issues
http://www.thisisswi
ndontownfc.co.uk/new
s/headlines/10170172
.Watkins_sees_Town_a
s_unique_investment_
opportunity/
In this respect, the financing of Swindon Town FC is not dissimilar to that of Chelsea Football Club or Manchester City Football Club in the Premier League or A.F.C Bournemouth in League One (to mention just a few).
On "virtually cheated their way out of the division" and "have behaved immorally":
Swindon Town Football Club are set annual budgets by their holdings company in line with the financial fair-play rules in force in the Football League. Swindon Town are allowed to work within those budgets, and the fact that the Football Club has owners who are wealthy and are prepared to set high budgets, funded from their own pockets is immaterial. Whilst it is true that Swindon Town FC were placed under a transfer embargo earlier this season for breaching the financial fair play rules, this was a result of tribunal decisions on the transfers of Troy Archibald-Henville and James Collins, where transfer fees were instructed to be paid up front and not in installments as the club anticipated, once under embargo, the club's owners made a capital investment into the Swindon Town FC to bring player spending within the agreed percentage of total revenue, thus bringing the club out of embargo. Swindon Town Football Club faced no such sanctions during the previous season, when were supposed to have "cheated" their way out of the division (according to your article).
I would also like an explanation as to how the club has acted immorally. As stated above, majority of the reported £13m debt is owed as unsecured loans to the directors (current and previous) of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd, and not to minor creditors, suppliers, local small businesses, etc. How can it be immoral to operate within budgets set forth by by the club's owners and within the restrictions of the Football League's financial fair play rules?
Given that it is public knowledge that Andrew Black (majority shareholder) is actively seeking new owners for Swindon Town Football Club, and that a process of due diligence is about to begin, the story published in your newspaper, being based on opinion and lacking evidential substance as previously mentioned is not only irresponsible, but could also be construed by Swindon Town FC as libelous.
I stated above that I would not be purchasing your publication again, and this is not entirely true... I will be buying The Football League Paper one last time on Sunday in the hope of seeing a retraction of the article and apology to Swindon Town Football Club, their supporters, and potential investors which consume as much of your paper in a section of equivalent prominence as the original article. After the issue to be published on Sunday 27th January, I will be cancelling my subscription with my local newsagent.
Yours sincerely,
Tom xxx, ex-reader
avo
says...
1:28pm Tue 22 Jan 13
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Swindon1984
says...
1:54pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Reading_Robin wrote:Very eloquently put, and the apology has come through to the club (although it stinks to high heaven as far as I'm concerned, and doesn't go nearly far enough to explaining how the article was printed in the first place). Wonder if it'll be published in the paper in anything more than a two inch column?
I read these comments, but rarely actually post... just thought it might be interesting for people that I've had a response from the editor... here's my complaint and the response in full it's probably a standard response, but at least we should be getting an apology.. just hope not too much damage has been done: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM, David Emery wrote: I understand your complaint fully and we are in the process of making remedies. Chris Dunlavy is writing an apology in the paper and we have contacted Swindon Town FC. Ironically, Chris Dunlavy has always been a champion of Swindon; in this instance his zeal to criticise clubs who live beyond their means has carried him away to make clearly unfounded, and deeply regretted, statements about the club. His intention had been to raise the wider issue of insolvency and debt in football, and more precisely the need for clubs to move towards self-sustainability. He saw Sir William Patey’s reported comments about administration and used this as the basis for his remarks. He chose the wrong target. David Emery From: Tom **** Sent: 22 January 2013 11:23 To: David.emery@theleagu epaper.com Cc: chris.dunlavy@thelea guepaper.com Subject: The Football League Paper - Sunday 20th January 2013 Dear Mr Emery, I am writing in reference to the article in this week's issue of your publication titled "Swindon: the 'cheats' who really prospered". I am a regular reader of your publication. As a supporter and member of a football club outside of the Premier League (Swindon Town FC), printed news for all but the transfer of some player or another to a Premier League team is impossible to find in the mainstream press, and your newspaper, in my opinion fills a necessary gap. Unfortunately, after reading the above article on Sunday, I will not be purchasing The Football League Paper again. I am disappointed that, as editor, you allowed a piece with such obvious lack of evidential substance to be printed. This article represents lazy, sensationalist journalism, and is incorrect in the bare facts of the article. I am especially referring to the following sections: "Every time Swindon added to their wage bill (currently around £3m a year), they knew somebody else was going unpaid. They were spending money they didn't have, otherwise known as financial doping." "... how would you feel knowing Swindon virtually cheated their way out of the division? " "Nevertheless, the fact remains that the Robins have behaved immorally" To the above quotations from the article, I would like to make clear the following points of fact: On "somebody else was going unpaid": The debts owed by Swindon Town Football Club are owed to the majority shareholders of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd http://www.companies intheuk.co.uk/ltd/sw indon-town-football- company, the Board members of Swindon Town Football Club have stated in the local and national media that the football club does NOT: * Owe any monies to HMRC * Have a bank overdraft * Have any major creditor issues http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/headlines/10170172 .Watkins_sees_Town_a s_unique_investment_ opportunity/ In this respect, the financing of Swindon Town FC is not dissimilar to that of Chelsea Football Club or Manchester City Football Club in the Premier League or A.F.C Bournemouth in League One (to mention just a few). On "virtually cheated their way out of the division" and "have behaved immorally": Swindon Town Football Club are set annual budgets by their holdings company in line with the financial fair-play rules in force in the Football League. Swindon Town are allowed to work within those budgets, and the fact that the Football Club has owners who are wealthy and are prepared to set high budgets, funded from their own pockets is immaterial. Whilst it is true that Swindon Town FC were placed under a transfer embargo earlier this season for breaching the financial fair play rules, this was a result of tribunal decisions on the transfers of Troy Archibald-Henville and James Collins, where transfer fees were instructed to be paid up front and not in installments as the club anticipated, once under embargo, the club's owners made a capital investment into the Swindon Town FC to bring player spending within the agreed percentage of total revenue, thus bringing the club out of embargo. Swindon Town Football Club faced no such sanctions during the previous season, when were supposed to have "cheated" their way out of the division (according to your article). I would also like an explanation as to how the club has acted immorally. As stated above, majority of the reported £13m debt is owed as unsecured loans to the directors (current and previous) of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd, and not to minor creditors, suppliers, local small businesses, etc. How can it be immoral to operate within budgets set forth by by the club's owners and within the restrictions of the Football League's financial fair play rules? Given that it is public knowledge that Andrew Black (majority shareholder) is actively seeking new owners for Swindon Town Football Club, and that a process of due diligence is about to begin, the story published in your newspaper, being based on opinion and lacking evidential substance as previously mentioned is not only irresponsible, but could also be construed by Swindon Town FC as libelous. I stated above that I would not be purchasing your publication again, and this is not entirely true... I will be buying The Football League Paper one last time on Sunday in the hope of seeing a retraction of the article and apology to Swindon Town Football Club, their supporters, and potential investors which consume as much of your paper in a section of equivalent prominence as the original article. After the issue to be published on Sunday 27th January, I will be cancelling my subscription with my local newsagent. Yours sincerely, Tom xxx, ex-reader
This is the bit that annoys,the damage is done, and by the time the apology comes people won't care to read it, the mud has already stuck, and the FLP have already made their money out of the story so they couldn't care less.
Stilloyal
says...
2:14pm Tue 22 Jan 13
ShearerShearer wrote:They ate all them on Friday night mate.
Dominoes ;-)
Rebel_phish
says...
2:30pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Reading_Robin wrote:Your time and effort for putting your complaint across is well appreciated.
I read these comments, but rarely actually post... just thought it might be interesting for people that I've had a response from the editor... here's my complaint and the response in full it's probably a standard response, but at least we should be getting an apology.. just hope not too much damage has been done:
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM, David Emery wrote:
I understand your complaint fully and we are in the process of making remedies. Chris Dunlavy is writing an apology in the paper and we have contacted Swindon Town FC.
Ironically, Chris Dunlavy has always been a champion of Swindon; in this instance his zeal to criticise clubs who live beyond their means has carried him away to make clearly unfounded, and deeply regretted, statements about the club.
His intention had been to raise the wider issue of insolvency and debt in football, and more precisely the need for clubs to move towards self-sustainability.
He saw Sir William Patey’s reported comments about administration and used this as the basis for his remarks. He chose the wrong target.
David Emery
From: Tom ****
Sent: 22 January 2013 11:23
To: David.emery@theleagu
epaper.com
Cc: chris.dunlavy@thelea
guepaper.com
Subject: The Football League Paper - Sunday 20th January 2013
Dear Mr Emery,
I am writing in reference to the article in this week's issue of your publication titled "Swindon: the 'cheats' who really prospered".
I am a regular reader of your publication. As a supporter and member of a football club outside of the Premier League (Swindon Town FC), printed news for all but the transfer of some player or another to a Premier League team is impossible to find in the mainstream press, and your newspaper, in my opinion fills a necessary gap. Unfortunately, after reading the above article on Sunday, I will not be purchasing The Football League Paper again.
I am disappointed that, as editor, you allowed a piece with such obvious lack of evidential substance to be printed. This article represents lazy, sensationalist journalism, and is incorrect in the bare facts of the article. I am especially referring to the following sections:
"Every time Swindon added to their wage bill (currently around £3m a year), they knew somebody else was going unpaid. They were spending money they didn't have, otherwise known as financial doping."
"... how would you feel knowing Swindon virtually cheated their way out of the division? "
"Nevertheless, the fact remains that the Robins have behaved immorally"
To the above quotations from the article, I would like to make clear the following points of fact:
On "somebody else was going unpaid":
The debts owed by Swindon Town Football Club are owed to the majority shareholders of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd http://www.companies
intheuk.co.uk/ltd/sw
indon-town-football-
company, the Board members of Swindon Town Football Club have stated in the local and national media that the football club does NOT:
* Owe any monies to HMRC
* Have a bank overdraft
* Have any major creditor issues
http://www.thisisswi
ndontownfc.co.uk/new
s/headlines/10170172
.Watkins_sees_Town_a
s_unique_investment_
opportunity/
In this respect, the financing of Swindon Town FC is not dissimilar to that of Chelsea Football Club or Manchester City Football Club in the Premier League or A.F.C Bournemouth in League One (to mention just a few).
On "virtually cheated their way out of the division" and "have behaved immorally":
Swindon Town Football Club are set annual budgets by their holdings company in line with the financial fair-play rules in force in the Football League. Swindon Town are allowed to work within those budgets, and the fact that the Football Club has owners who are wealthy and are prepared to set high budgets, funded from their own pockets is immaterial. Whilst it is true that Swindon Town FC were placed under a transfer embargo earlier this season for breaching the financial fair play rules, this was a result of tribunal decisions on the transfers of Troy Archibald-Henville and James Collins, where transfer fees were instructed to be paid up front and not in installments as the club anticipated, once under embargo, the club's owners made a capital investment into the Swindon Town FC to bring player spending within the agreed percentage of total revenue, thus bringing the club out of embargo. Swindon Town Football Club faced no such sanctions during the previous season, when were supposed to have "cheated" their way out of the division (according to your article).
I would also like an explanation as to how the club has acted immorally. As stated above, majority of the reported £13m debt is owed as unsecured loans to the directors (current and previous) of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd, and not to minor creditors, suppliers, local small businesses, etc. How can it be immoral to operate within budgets set forth by by the club's owners and within the restrictions of the Football League's financial fair play rules?
Given that it is public knowledge that Andrew Black (majority shareholder) is actively seeking new owners for Swindon Town Football Club, and that a process of due diligence is about to begin, the story published in your newspaper, being based on opinion and lacking evidential substance as previously mentioned is not only irresponsible, but could also be construed by Swindon Town FC as libelous.
I stated above that I would not be purchasing your publication again, and this is not entirely true... I will be buying The Football League Paper one last time on Sunday in the hope of seeing a retraction of the article and apology to Swindon Town Football Club, their supporters, and potential investors which consume as much of your paper in a section of equivalent prominence as the original article. After the issue to be published on Sunday 27th January, I will be cancelling my subscription with my local newsagent.
Yours sincerely,
Tom xxx, ex-reader
If ony Chris Dunlavy had bothered to read the sources you refer to, his article would have been totally different to the point of uninteresting and not worthy of publication
Di kanny oh
says...
3:13pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Ah well back to my bog repairs and fixing me flush.
Bazthebooty
says...
5:34pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Di kanny oh
says...
5:45pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Bazthebooty wrote:Hi Bazthebooty, yes this was quoted by Newbury Robin on the Benson thread at 1.05 this afternoon, some report on Wikipedia about it apparently.
Where did you get his name from ? He has personnel wealth of $18 Billion so i hope your right !!
glasred
says...
5:58pm Tue 22 Jan 13
glasred
says...
5:59pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Bazthebooty
says...
6:00pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Oldhamred
says...
6:03pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Di kanny oh wrote:Not trying to be negative, but why would somebody with personal wealth of $18 Billion require due dilligence of the accounnts etc when one days interest would buy STFC outright?
Bazthebooty wrote:Hi Bazthebooty, yes this was quoted by Newbury Robin on the Benson thread at 1.05 this afternoon, some report on Wikipedia about it apparently.
Where did you get his name from ? He has personnel wealth of $18 Billion so i hope your right !!
Sorry, hope I'm wrong, but I smell a wind-up that may have 6 fingered origins.
glasred
says...
6:05pm Tue 22 Jan 13
mallorca
says...
6:56pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Don't you all think after all these years how much STFC has paid to the Swindon Council it's about time they supported the Club.,what would they do with the CG if the club goes bust?
I know in these hard times they have to be carefull how money is used,but don't you all just think after all these years before the money men get the las Pound out of STFC they should support the club Rest my case Swindon council wake up smell the coffee is a time for you all to get votes
matt71
says...
7:11pm Tue 22 Jan 13
matt71
says...
7:14pm Tue 22 Jan 13
avo
says...
7:21pm Tue 22 Jan 13
jontyg
says...
8:19pm Tue 22 Jan 13
avo wrote:Nice one avo. Me sides are splittin!!!!
waleed better hurry up and pull his finger out and buy the club, or else it may have al bin a big waste of everyones time!
RamsburyRed
says...
8:29pm Tue 22 Jan 13
mallorca wrote:Mallorca, that line about Arab money being 'kosher' is pure comedy gold, I never knew you had it in you.
OK all this B/S about Arab money ?????? is it kosher.
Don't you all think after all these years how much STFC has paid to the Swindon Council it's about time they supported the Club.,what would they do with the CG if the club goes bust?
I know in these hard times they have to be carefull how money is used,but don't you all just think after all these years before the money men get the las Pound out of STFC they should support the club Rest my case Swindon council wake up smell the coffee is a time for you all to get votes
Wilesy
says...
8:57pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Oldhamred wrote:Indeed sounds like a wind-up, although great news should it be true. A statue of SWP at the County Ground might be in order if he puls that off!!
Di kanny oh wrote:Not trying to be negative, but why would somebody with personal wealth of $18 Billion require due dilligence of the accounnts etc when one days interest would buy STFC outright?
Bazthebooty wrote:Hi Bazthebooty, yes this was quoted by Newbury Robin on the Benson thread at 1.05 this afternoon, some report on Wikipedia about it apparently.
Where did you get his name from ? He has personnel wealth of $18 Billion so i hope your right !!
Sorry, hope I'm wrong, but I smell a wind-up that may have 6 fingered origins.
Sounds like his yacht would be bigger than the County Ground.
STFCman&boy1973
says...
8:58pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Oldhamred wrote:I really hope I have to eat humble pie, but I don't believe that either, I think written from someone with 6 fingers as well...
Di kanny oh wrote:Not trying to be negative, but why would somebody with personal wealth of $18 Billion require due dilligence of the accounnts etc when one days interest would buy STFC outright?
Bazthebooty wrote:Hi Bazthebooty, yes this was quoted by Newbury Robin on the Benson thread at 1.05 this afternoon, some report on Wikipedia about it apparently.
Where did you get his name from ? He has personnel wealth of $18 Billion so i hope your right !!
Sorry, hope I'm wrong, but I smell a wind-up that may have 6 fingered origins.
But in the past, someone said we were getting relegated 2 divisions without kicking the ball...I scoffed at that rediculas suggestion, lets hope something good eh???
COYMRs
REDROM
says...
12:57am Wed 23 Jan 13
ews/2013-01-22/princ
e-al-waleed-bin-tala
l-the-worlds-richest
-arab-the-man-who-ru
ns-a-big-slice-of-th
e-world/ its gotta be a wind up???
Swindon1984
says...
11:51am Wed 23 Jan 13
REDROM wrote:That his son would want to take "an active role in running the club" would be worrying - can't see PDC being the type to have football matters dictated to him by some spiv from the middle east (much like Abramovich dictating footballing policy to Mourinho).
why would this man want anything to do with STFC, cant see it take a look at this http://www.itv.com/n ews/2013-01-22/princ e-al-waleed-bin-tala l-the-worlds-richest -arab-the-man-who-ru ns-a-big-slice-of-th e-world/ its gotta be a wind up???
Of course when money is no object the sky's the limit - he could buy the club outright and make himself manager if he wanted to.
All a moot point anyway as I don't believe this story for a minute - why would anyone with that much money would want to sink it into a small to medium sized club in the west country?
Pewsham Red
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6:47pm Wed 23 Jan 13
All well and good when things going well but he may want to do an 'Andrew Black' and pull out but be less inclined to worry about whether he leaves a car crash.
Not for me thanks. Rather stay in league 1.

LeGod says...
8:54am Tue 22 Jan 13
It could be a Sheik your Money coming in with his oil millions.On the other hand lets hope its not the Castro brothers coming back to bid.