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SWINDON TOWN: Prospective owners to meet with Football League as Town takeover inches closer

Swindon Advertiser: Swindon Town boss Paolo Di Canio Swindon Town boss Paolo Di Canio

SWINDON Town’s prospective new owners will meet with the Football League tomorrow as the sale of the club reaches its conclusion, the Advertiser understands.

Jed McCrory’s consortium is still awaiting official approval before they can take charge at the County Ground.

The League want to be talked through the incoming board’s financial model for the club for the next three years, while McCrory himself is in the process of applying for special dispensation from the relevant authorities so that he can hold positions at both Swindon and Banbury United until the end of the campaign.

The prospective new directors are understood to have passed their fit and proper persons tests and McCrory & Co could get their purchase rubberstamped later this week following discussions with the Football League, which are expected to take place in Preston.

The Adver has learnt that joining McCrory on the new board of directors will be Martin King, Gary Hooper and Steve Murrall.

King is a former director at Luton Town, who resigned his post at the Hatters in the immediate aftermath of Mike Newell’s controversial sacking in 2007. He is also the founder of corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence.

Murrall, like McCrory, has held a directorship at Milton Keynes-based marketing solutions firm Orcidium (UK) Ltd and has experience within the pharmaceutical industry. His primary skills are believed to be operations and structure management.

Hooper is a former professional footballer and has held commercial manager positions at several clubs up and down the Football League. He has 40 years of experience within the game including posts at Brentford and QPR.

Meanwhile, Charlton manager Chris Powell says no official approach has been made for Danny Green or Bradley Wright-Phillips since the emergency loan window opened on Friday.

When asked if Green and Wright-Phillips could still complete switches to Swindon, he said: “It depends on the situation.

“There are a lot of factors to consider with loan moves or permanent moves but as far as I’m aware if they are here and they are fit, they will be up for selection to be in the squad and be in the team.”

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6:11am Tue 12 Feb 13

louiscassius says...

Fingers and toes crossed.

Here's hoping and praying...

:-)))))
Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-))))) louiscassius
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6:14am Tue 12 Feb 13

CraigClark says...

louiscassius wrote:
Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))
Ditto Louis! Seems like this takeover has been going on forever!
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))[/p][/quote]Ditto Louis! Seems like this takeover has been going on forever! CraigClark
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6:16am Tue 12 Feb 13

louiscassius says...

CraigClark wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))
Ditto Louis! Seems like this takeover has been going on forever!
Well, hopefully this could be the start of something very special.

And we can all move on and enjoy another great 3 years and even start to talk about getting the New Stadium squared away.....
[quote][p][bold]CraigClark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))[/p][/quote]Ditto Louis! Seems like this takeover has been going on forever![/p][/quote]Well, hopefully this could be the start of something very special. And we can all move on and enjoy another great 3 years and even start to talk about getting the New Stadium squared away..... louiscassius
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6:52am Tue 12 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

Expecting another knock back of some sorts come Thursday
Expecting another knock back of some sorts come Thursday Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
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7:08am Tue 12 Feb 13

california andy says...

This has been a long and nerve-wracking saga for all of us. Don't sound like mega-rich guys, but at least some football experience and ties. But do hope Di Canio is satisfied, that the league thinks their financial plans are sound, and that we can get on with football (and talking about on the field stuff). Like everyone else, I will be glad when the uncertainty ends.
This has been a long and nerve-wracking saga for all of us. Don't sound like mega-rich guys, but at least some football experience and ties. But do hope Di Canio is satisfied, that the league thinks their financial plans are sound, and that we can get on with football (and talking about on the field stuff). Like everyone else, I will be glad when the uncertainty ends. california andy
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7:09am Tue 12 Feb 13

Last step says...

Jed is STILL applying for special dispensation, is he? How long is that application form?! He's been applying for week or so, now.

Surely he's actually applied and is awaiting a response. #pedant
Jed is STILL applying for special dispensation, is he? How long is that application form?! He's been applying for week or so, now. Surely he's actually applied and is awaiting a response. #pedant Last step
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7:15am Tue 12 Feb 13

eddyxx says...

Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?
Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ? eddyxx
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7:45am Tue 12 Feb 13

ciclosporindorset says...

If I wanted to know about my daughters fiancé I would want to know not only how his bank account used to look, but how he intends to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. It's an old fashioned thing I realise but On that basis I may, just may, give my precious one away. She seems more concerned with his physical prowess which is important to her but I am more interested in the sustainability of the relationship, as should the FL.
If I wanted to know about my daughters fiancé I would want to know not only how his bank account used to look, but how he intends to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. It's an old fashioned thing I realise but On that basis I may, just may, give my precious one away. She seems more concerned with his physical prowess which is important to her but I am more interested in the sustainability of the relationship, as should the FL. ciclosporindorset
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7:56am Tue 12 Feb 13

Jammu splodger says...

Hmmmm the way things are going it might be a done deal by Easter!!!!
Hmmmm the way things are going it might be a done deal by Easter!!!! Jammu splodger
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8:03am Tue 12 Feb 13

Redhouse Red says...

I sincerely hope the plan that is provided to the football league contains 2 key objectives; sustainable and success
I sincerely hope the plan that is provided to the football league contains 2 key objectives; sustainable and success Redhouse Red
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8:10am Tue 12 Feb 13

NewburyRobin says...

ciclosporindorset wrote:
If I wanted to know about my daughters fiancé I would want to know not only how his bank account used to look, but how he intends to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. It's an old fashioned thing I realise but On that basis I may, just may, give my precious one away. She seems more concerned with his physical prowess which is important to her but I am more interested in the sustainability of the relationship, as should the FL.
Hahahaha a good post, much better than all that bickering stuff & reposting yesterday.
Lot's more that I could add, but it would just be same old, same old.
The loan players appear to be still available, PDC is still here, all we need now is to be patient. Easier said than done I know.
[quote][p][bold]ciclosporindorset[/bold] wrote: If I wanted to know about my daughters fiancé I would want to know not only how his bank account used to look, but how he intends to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. It's an old fashioned thing I realise but On that basis I may, just may, give my precious one away. She seems more concerned with his physical prowess which is important to her but I am more interested in the sustainability of the relationship, as should the FL.[/p][/quote]Hahahaha a good post, much better than all that bickering stuff & reposting yesterday. Lot's more that I could add, but it would just be same old, same old. The loan players appear to be still available, PDC is still here, all we need now is to be patient. Easier said than done I know. NewburyRobin
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8:20am Tue 12 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

So with PDC still at SN1, MP, DG & BWP still available, JM et al, seeing FL Fans still waiting on new from STFC, so no change.

Yaaaawwwn!

Wake me up when its all over.
So with PDC still at SN1, MP, DG & BWP still available, JM et al, seeing FL Fans still waiting on new from STFC, so no change. Yaaaawwwn! Wake me up when its all over. Rebel_phish
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8:28am Tue 12 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Thanks Mr Black for the long notice period you gave for the potential sale and the sale of Ritchie under the Managers nose.

A special thanks also to sticking to the 3 year plan and the assistance in getting STFC into the championship at the best opportunity in years.

I may not have your money but I have spent my fair share following and sponsoring STFC so thanks Andrew for the last two weeks of uncertainty.

If I have upset any fans on here then sorry but this is the way I feel.

This was a big chance and I sincerely hope PDC stays, we get a few more loan players and can finish the job.
It hasn't been made any easier over the past few weeks.

I will be at Tranmere sticking to my 38 year old plan supporting the club I love.

Thanks Andrew for saving us in the first place but not for your swan song.
Thanks Mr Black for the long notice period you gave for the potential sale and the sale of Ritchie under the Managers nose. A special thanks also to sticking to the 3 year plan and the assistance in getting STFC into the championship at the best opportunity in years. I may not have your money but I have spent my fair share following and sponsoring STFC so thanks Andrew for the last two weeks of uncertainty. If I have upset any fans on here then sorry but this is the way I feel. This was a big chance and I sincerely hope PDC stays, we get a few more loan players and can finish the job. It hasn't been made any easier over the past few weeks. I will be at Tranmere sticking to my 38 year old plan supporting the club I love. Thanks Andrew for saving us in the first place but not for your swan song. TheDukeOfBanbury
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8:29am Tue 12 Feb 13

chalkswindon says...

I'm finding myself checking on here at least 5 or 6 times a day at the moment.

I keep expecting to go on to a massive headline one way or another.

Along the lines of :-
Takeover Approved
Takeover Falls Through
PDC Quits

Doris the tea lady dropped the teapot.

Like everyone else just want some good news.

Be warned though with Sam away Andy Warren will be doing the headline so who knows how accurate any of it will be anyway.
I'm finding myself checking on here at least 5 or 6 times a day at the moment. I keep expecting to go on to a massive headline one way or another. Along the lines of :- Takeover Approved Takeover Falls Through PDC Quits Doris the tea lady dropped the teapot. Like everyone else just want some good news. Be warned though with Sam away Andy Warren will be doing the headline so who knows how accurate any of it will be anyway. chalkswindon
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8:30am Tue 12 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Some interesting snippets of news today, 4 Directors now named including Jed, thought there was a fith, or have i missed something. It doesn't seem although there is any mention of a holding company, so I guess there isn't one, I would therefore conject there isn't one and there will be a straight equity injection into the club (75% of the shares) from the Directors, I think I did read somewhere it wou be in the region of 3 million, conjecture i know, but if true how much of that Black gets and how much will be for the running of the club we'll have to wait and see.

Interesting times ahead, but still IMO first priorty if and when the FL sanctions the takeover is to strengthen the team with some decent loanees.
Some interesting snippets of news today, 4 Directors now named including Jed, thought there was a fith, or have i missed something. It doesn't seem although there is any mention of a holding company, so I guess there isn't one, I would therefore conject there isn't one and there will be a straight equity injection into the club (75% of the shares) from the Directors, I think I did read somewhere it wou be in the region of 3 million, conjecture i know, but if true how much of that Black gets and how much will be for the running of the club we'll have to wait and see. Interesting times ahead, but still IMO first priorty if and when the FL sanctions the takeover is to strengthen the team with some decent loanees. old town robin
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9:12am Tue 12 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

eddyxx wrote:
Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?
Fit and proper persons test is purely - Have they been banned from running a company.
.
Football League interview is to find out: How will you run STFC in a non-loss making manner or how will you fund any investments.
.
The FL won't want to be subjected if the club go into Admin in 2yrs time due to owners who are on a jolly and have no real funds to run a modern day football club.
.
It's this last point that concerns many of us....what funding do they have which is available to maintain a Championship or worse case, a League 1 football club.
[quote][p][bold]eddyxx[/bold] wrote: Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?[/p][/quote]Fit and proper persons test is purely - Have they been banned from running a company. . Football League interview is to find out: How will you run STFC in a non-loss making manner or how will you fund any investments. . The FL won't want to be subjected if the club go into Admin in 2yrs time due to owners who are on a jolly and have no real funds to run a modern day football club. . It's this last point that concerns many of us....what funding do they have which is available to maintain a Championship or worse case, a League 1 football club. SAPFanSTFC
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9:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

mallorca says...

Well at least the FL are taking this in a proffessional manner.Also these guys appear to be normal,maybe not mega rich however enough to bid to AB and agree to take the club over.
In a sense this has happened within 3-4 weeks and to us seems gone on forever,yet as a post said AB did not give much time for this to be concluded.
So PATIECE is needed from us as we don´t know what for sure yet has happened with the FL,SM put to print the little detail he could get.
Si it´s a waitand see will be done one way or the other by Thursday.
Just hope it goes well but key point is these guys sound for real.Wish them good luck for tomorrow
Well at least the FL are taking this in a proffessional manner.Also these guys appear to be normal,maybe not mega rich however enough to bid to AB and agree to take the club over. In a sense this has happened within 3-4 weeks and to us seems gone on forever,yet as a post said AB did not give much time for this to be concluded. So PATIECE is needed from us as we don´t know what for sure yet has happened with the FL,SM put to print the little detail he could get. Si it´s a waitand see will be done one way or the other by Thursday. Just hope it goes well but key point is these guys sound for real.Wish them good luck for tomorrow mallorca
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9:50am Tue 12 Feb 13

madterrier says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
eddyxx wrote:
Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?
Fit and proper persons test is purely - Have they been banned from running a company.
.
Football League interview is to find out: How will you run STFC in a non-loss making manner or how will you fund any investments.
.
The FL won't want to be subjected if the club go into Admin in 2yrs time due to owners who are on a jolly and have no real funds to run a modern day football club.
.
It's this last point that concerns many of us....what funding do they have which is available to maintain a Championship or worse case, a League 1 football club.
Quite right. It's the financial plan that is critical, not the box-ticking exercise of 'fit and proper', which everyone would pass unless you're a serial killer (or more strictly, if you are banned from being a director of a company).

I don't know there's much evidence of the Football League being stringent on owners having robust financial plans though. So many people become owners of football clubs with a 'financial model' that runs along the lines of 'we'll put a bit of money in, play the payers far in excess of what we take at the gate, and then plunge the club into financial crisis 18 months down the road'.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eddyxx[/bold] wrote: Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?[/p][/quote]Fit and proper persons test is purely - Have they been banned from running a company. . Football League interview is to find out: How will you run STFC in a non-loss making manner or how will you fund any investments. . The FL won't want to be subjected if the club go into Admin in 2yrs time due to owners who are on a jolly and have no real funds to run a modern day football club. . It's this last point that concerns many of us....what funding do they have which is available to maintain a Championship or worse case, a League 1 football club.[/p][/quote]Quite right. It's the financial plan that is critical, not the box-ticking exercise of 'fit and proper', which everyone would pass unless you're a serial killer (or more strictly, if you are banned from being a director of a company). I don't know there's much evidence of the Football League being stringent on owners having robust financial plans though. So many people become owners of football clubs with a 'financial model' that runs along the lines of 'we'll put a bit of money in, play the payers far in excess of what we take at the gate, and then plunge the club into financial crisis 18 months down the road'. madterrier
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9:59am Tue 12 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Why is everybody getting so worked up? There are only 3 possible outcomes 1) the take over is approved & Jed & co. convince Pdc that they will provide the resources he needs to attain championship football 2) they don't convince him and he walks 3) the take over is not ratified we go into Admin and Pdc probably still walks. What other scenarios are there? Passion and dedication of support and sponsoring the club are laudable attributes but no supporter is is a position to change things one iota.
The one thing that is evident from all the theories abounding from those who have voiced their reservations and subsequently from some who thought that everything was rosy is that in terms of comparison the pot that Jed has available to urinate in is nowhere near the size of AB's. Therefore by definition myself and others see the future as more Sir seton wills I.e. they'll put in money to keep the club going but no more than that. So IMO option 2 above is the most likely outcome.
Why is everybody getting so worked up? There are only 3 possible outcomes 1) the take over is approved & Jed & co. convince Pdc that they will provide the resources he needs to attain championship football 2) they don't convince him and he walks 3) the take over is not ratified we go into Admin and Pdc probably still walks. What other scenarios are there? Passion and dedication of support and sponsoring the club are laudable attributes but no supporter is is a position to change things one iota. The one thing that is evident from all the theories abounding from those who have voiced their reservations and subsequently from some who thought that everything was rosy is that in terms of comparison the pot that Jed has available to urinate in is nowhere near the size of AB's. Therefore by definition myself and others see the future as more Sir seton wills I.e. they'll put in money to keep the club going but no more than that. So IMO option 2 above is the most likely outcome. The Jockster
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10:06am Tue 12 Feb 13

Park North Red says...

On BBC Wilts last week I'm sure I heard Chris Wise say that the meeting between PDC and the new board was positive so I'd say watch this space
On BBC Wilts last week I'm sure I heard Chris Wise say that the meeting between PDC and the new board was positive so I'd say watch this space Park North Red
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10:11am Tue 12 Feb 13

Med Red says...

Anybody done any research on the individual members of the consortium? I'm wondering if there's anyone amongst that lot with sufficient funds to finance a Championship team or even a League 1 team? Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget
Anybody done any research on the individual members of the consortium? I'm wondering if there's anyone amongst that lot with sufficient funds to finance a Championship team or even a League 1 team? Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget Med Red
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10:23am Tue 12 Feb 13

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
Why is everybody getting so worked up? There are only 3 possible outcomes 1) the take over is approved & Jed & co. convince Pdc that they will provide the resources he needs to attain championship football 2) they don't convince him and he walks 3) the take over is not ratified we go into Admin and Pdc probably still walks. What other scenarios are there? Passion and dedication of support and sponsoring the club are laudable attributes but no supporter is is a position to change things one iota.
The one thing that is evident from all the theories abounding from those who have voiced their reservations and subsequently from some who thought that everything was rosy is that in terms of comparison the pot that Jed has available to urinate in is nowhere near the size of AB's. Therefore by definition myself and others see the future as more Sir seton wills I.e. they'll put in money to keep the club going but no more than that. So IMO option 2 above is the most likely outcome.
Morning Jock, I suppose you can also add that although the interview is tomorrow the decision is likely to be announced a day or two afterwards. No doubt a business plan will be submitted and the FL will want to claw their way through that in some detail and do a PM on it to check its viability. So I'm not really expecting anything before Friday or even Monday. That isn't being doom and gloom, but we are discussing Swindon Town, whose directors have been a bit lacking over the years, so given the recent pledge to HM Gov that things will be put in order I expect a lot of nit-picking by the suits.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Why is everybody getting so worked up? There are only 3 possible outcomes 1) the take over is approved & Jed & co. convince Pdc that they will provide the resources he needs to attain championship football 2) they don't convince him and he walks 3) the take over is not ratified we go into Admin and Pdc probably still walks. What other scenarios are there? Passion and dedication of support and sponsoring the club are laudable attributes but no supporter is is a position to change things one iota. The one thing that is evident from all the theories abounding from those who have voiced their reservations and subsequently from some who thought that everything was rosy is that in terms of comparison the pot that Jed has available to urinate in is nowhere near the size of AB's. Therefore by definition myself and others see the future as more Sir seton wills I.e. they'll put in money to keep the club going but no more than that. So IMO option 2 above is the most likely outcome.[/p][/quote]Morning Jock, I suppose you can also add that although the interview is tomorrow the decision is likely to be announced a day or two afterwards. No doubt a business plan will be submitted and the FL will want to claw their way through that in some detail and do a PM on it to check its viability. So I'm not really expecting anything before Friday or even Monday. That isn't being doom and gloom, but we are discussing Swindon Town, whose directors have been a bit lacking over the years, so given the recent pledge to HM Gov that things will be put in order I expect a lot of nit-picking by the suits. the wizard
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10:28am Tue 12 Feb 13

umpcah says...

Med Red wrote:
Anybody done any research on the individual members of the consortium? I'm wondering if there's anyone amongst that lot with sufficient funds to finance a Championship team or even a League 1 team? Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget
"Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget " : - To stand a chance of improving himself i.e. becoming manager of a club in a higher division - possibly West Ham, Paolo needs to leave Swindon on a high. He is currently on a high with the Town third in the league and to outsiders looking good for promotion. If he doesn`t sign up Pack & Co and misses out on promotion he has lost his current high.........
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Anybody done any research on the individual members of the consortium? I'm wondering if there's anyone amongst that lot with sufficient funds to finance a Championship team or even a League 1 team? Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget[/p][/quote]"Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget " : - To stand a chance of improving himself i.e. becoming manager of a club in a higher division - possibly West Ham, Paolo needs to leave Swindon on a high. He is currently on a high with the Town third in the league and to outsiders looking good for promotion. If he doesn`t sign up Pack & Co and misses out on promotion he has lost his current high......... umpcah
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10:28am Tue 12 Feb 13

umpcah says...

umpcah wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Anybody done any research on the individual members of the consortium? I'm wondering if there's anyone amongst that lot with sufficient funds to finance a Championship team or even a League 1 team? Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget
"Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget " : - To stand a chance of improving himself i.e. becoming manager of a club in a higher division - possibly West Ham, Paolo needs to leave Swindon on a high. He is currently on a high with the Town third in the league and to outsiders looking good for promotion. If he doesn`t sign up Pack & Co and misses out on promotion he has lost his current high.........
By the way I`m not the MultiMan !
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Anybody done any research on the individual members of the consortium? I'm wondering if there's anyone amongst that lot with sufficient funds to finance a Championship team or even a League 1 team? Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget[/p][/quote]"Can't see Paolo sticking around for too long if we're gonna be operating on a shoestring budget " : - To stand a chance of improving himself i.e. becoming manager of a club in a higher division - possibly West Ham, Paolo needs to leave Swindon on a high. He is currently on a high with the Town third in the league and to outsiders looking good for promotion. If he doesn`t sign up Pack & Co and misses out on promotion he has lost his current high.........[/p][/quote]By the way I`m not the MultiMan ! umpcah
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10:35am Tue 12 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

Interesting story in todays Gloucestershire Echo....

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Interesting story in todays Gloucestershire Echo.... http://www.thisisglo ucestershire.co.uk/C heltenham-Town-turne d-Jed-McCrory-takeov er-bid/story-1812513 7-detail/story.html# axzz2KgCwO1Iq Wilesy
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10:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

eddyxx says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
eddyxx wrote:
Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?
Fit and proper persons test is purely - Have they been banned from running a company.
.
Football League interview is to find out: How will you run STFC in a non-loss making manner or how will you fund any investments.
.
The FL won't want to be subjected if the club go into Admin in 2yrs time due to owners who are on a jolly and have no real funds to run a modern day football club.
.
It's this last point that concerns many of us....what funding do they have which is available to maintain a Championship or worse case, a League 1 football club.
Just thought all the necessary financial information would have been provided already to the club in order to sell and to the league as part of the required info, if it was as straight forward as passing the fit and proper test i would have bid for it myself. Surely all the info that the league require has already been checked and verified. In ink its fact verbally its just words and a noise. Cant see how a plan for the club has any effect on the league or why they need to know this info, surely they already have all the info.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eddyxx[/bold] wrote: Dont quite get how they can pass the fit and proper test and then have to be interviewed and give a presentation on how they take us forward, surely they have met the requirements for the takeover, is this correct process from the league ?[/p][/quote]Fit and proper persons test is purely - Have they been banned from running a company. . Football League interview is to find out: How will you run STFC in a non-loss making manner or how will you fund any investments. . The FL won't want to be subjected if the club go into Admin in 2yrs time due to owners who are on a jolly and have no real funds to run a modern day football club. . It's this last point that concerns many of us....what funding do they have which is available to maintain a Championship or worse case, a League 1 football club.[/p][/quote]Just thought all the necessary financial information would have been provided already to the club in order to sell and to the league as part of the required info, if it was as straight forward as passing the fit and proper test i would have bid for it myself. Surely all the info that the league require has already been checked and verified. In ink its fact verbally its just words and a noise. Cant see how a plan for the club has any effect on the league or why they need to know this info, surely they already have all the info. eddyxx
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10:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

Swindon1984 says...

The Jockster wrote:
Why is everybody getting so worked up? There are only 3 possible outcomes 1) the take over is approved & Jed & co. convince Pdc that they will provide the resources he needs to attain championship football 2) they don't convince him and he walks 3) the take over is not ratified we go into Admin and Pdc probably still walks. What other scenarios are there? Passion and dedication of support and sponsoring the club are laudable attributes but no supporter is is a position to change things one iota. The one thing that is evident from all the theories abounding from those who have voiced their reservations and subsequently from some who thought that everything was rosy is that in terms of comparison the pot that Jed has available to urinate in is nowhere near the size of AB's. Therefore by definition myself and others see the future as more Sir seton wills I.e. they'll put in money to keep the club going but no more than that. So IMO option 2 above is the most likely outcome.
Yep, probably right. But who knows. I'm still hoping for the best and expecting the worst, as usual!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Why is everybody getting so worked up? There are only 3 possible outcomes 1) the take over is approved & Jed & co. convince Pdc that they will provide the resources he needs to attain championship football 2) they don't convince him and he walks 3) the take over is not ratified we go into Admin and Pdc probably still walks. What other scenarios are there? Passion and dedication of support and sponsoring the club are laudable attributes but no supporter is is a position to change things one iota. The one thing that is evident from all the theories abounding from those who have voiced their reservations and subsequently from some who thought that everything was rosy is that in terms of comparison the pot that Jed has available to urinate in is nowhere near the size of AB's. Therefore by definition myself and others see the future as more Sir seton wills I.e. they'll put in money to keep the club going but no more than that. So IMO option 2 above is the most likely outcome.[/p][/quote]Yep, probably right. But who knows. I'm still hoping for the best and expecting the worst, as usual! Swindon1984
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10:42am Tue 12 Feb 13

Kingseleven says...

Has anyone thought about the fact that Andrew Black isn't selling all his shares ? He will still be a shareholder with some interest in the success of the club.

Unless I've missed something, maybe he ( or one of his reps ) is the 5th member.

He doesn't want to be involved in pumping more money into the club. But championship football would go some way to making a chunk of cash on his return.

The only thing that is a huge and unnecessary slap in the face is he sale of Ritchie ?

The best result from all this would be:

Board takes over
Paulo stays
BWP and Pack come in
Results are good and we get promoted

All the above are achievable.

COYR
Has anyone thought about the fact that Andrew Black isn't selling all his shares ? He will still be a shareholder with some interest in the success of the club. Unless I've missed something, maybe he ( or one of his reps ) is the 5th member. He doesn't want to be involved in pumping more money into the club. But championship football would go some way to making a chunk of cash on his return. The only thing that is a huge and unnecessary slap in the face is he sale of Ritchie ? The best result from all this would be: Board takes over Paulo stays BWP and Pack come in Results are good and we get promoted All the above are achievable. COYR Kingseleven
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10:55am Tue 12 Feb 13

mickry says...

I would say that I can't stand much more of this, but of course I can and will.
I've been supporting Town for fifty years. How happy I was when we won promotion to the Premiership, but it seems that that was the beginning of our recurrent troubles. All I wish for now is a period of moderate and realistic ambition and success. I think that, with the kind of sensible development seen at Reading over the past few years, the club might rise to established Championship, with occassional Premiership, status. How I hope that the putative new owners really are football people with a common sense approach to what is achievable.
Thank goodness we have no fixture this week-end. The gap should give everyone, including Paolo, or whoever might replace him in the event of his (Please! No!) departure, a chance to settle down and move on.
More in hope than in expectation.
Mick.
I would say that I can't stand much more of this, but of course I can and will. I've been supporting Town for fifty years. How happy I was when we won promotion to the Premiership, but it seems that that was the beginning of our recurrent troubles. All I wish for now is a period of moderate and realistic ambition and success. I think that, with the kind of sensible development seen at Reading over the past few years, the club might rise to established Championship, with occassional Premiership, status. How I hope that the putative new owners really are football people with a common sense approach to what is achievable. Thank goodness we have no fixture this week-end. The gap should give everyone, including Paolo, or whoever might replace him in the event of his (Please! No!) departure, a chance to settle down and move on. More in hope than in expectation. Mick. mickry
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10:55am Tue 12 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Wilesy wrote:
Interesting story in todays Gloucestershire Echo....

http://www.thisisglo

ucestershire.co.uk/C

heltenham-Town-turne

d-Jed-McCrory-takeov

er-bid/story-1812513

7-detail/story.html#

axzz2KgCwO1Iq
Thanks Wilesy, obviously not saying all he knows but apparently didn't like the look of things. Black on the other hand desperate to get out, act in haste repent at leisure, lets hope not. It does seem though that they have a quest to get their hands on a club, a bit too eager perhaps ???
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Interesting story in todays Gloucestershire Echo.... http://www.thisisglo ucestershire.co.uk/C heltenham-Town-turne d-Jed-McCrory-takeov er-bid/story-1812513 7-detail/story.html# axzz2KgCwO1Iq[/p][/quote]Thanks Wilesy, obviously not saying all he knows but apparently didn't like the look of things. Black on the other hand desperate to get out, act in haste repent at leisure, lets hope not. It does seem though that they have a quest to get their hands on a club, a bit too eager perhaps ??? the wizard
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11:03am Tue 12 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

the wizard wrote:
Wilesy wrote: Interesting story in todays Gloucestershire Echo.... http://www.thisisglo ucestershire.co.uk/C heltenham-Town-turne d-Jed-McCrory-takeov er-bid/story-1812513 7-detail/story.html# axzz2KgCwO1Iq
Thanks Wilesy, obviously not saying all he knows but apparently didn't like the look of things. Black on the other hand desperate to get out, act in haste repent at leisure, lets hope not. It does seem though that they have a quest to get their hands on a club, a bit too eager perhaps ???
I guess time will tell Wiz, could just be that Cheltenham didnt want a new majority shareholder and Swindon do
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Interesting story in todays Gloucestershire Echo.... http://www.thisisglo ucestershire.co.uk/C heltenham-Town-turne d-Jed-McCrory-takeov er-bid/story-1812513 7-detail/story.html# axzz2KgCwO1Iq[/p][/quote]Thanks Wilesy, obviously not saying all he knows but apparently didn't like the look of things. Black on the other hand desperate to get out, act in haste repent at leisure, lets hope not. It does seem though that they have a quest to get their hands on a club, a bit too eager perhaps ???[/p][/quote]I guess time will tell Wiz, could just be that Cheltenham didnt want a new majority shareholder and Swindon do Wilesy
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11:11am Tue 12 Feb 13

SouthcoastRed says...

I've read various doom-mongers on here suggesting that the sole purpose of this consortium is to flatten the county ground and make money (even though they wont own it)....It doesn't feel that way to me know that we know some of the characters.

These feel like real football people; an ex-player, guys with experience at other clubs etc.

Part of me was hoping for Saudi oil barons or Russian oligarchs... However, isn't it better to have people who genuinely care about the game and the fans? Bournemouth may find out shortly how wealthy backers can get bored of their new toys. Also, I've been to see Swindon play at Darlington, a wonderful new empty ground for non-league football. Money men with misguided plans could leave this club in a terrible state.
We need stability and longevity.

Finally, it speaks volumes about jed that he is going to hear efforts to not leave Banbury it the Sh@t.

I have a good feeling these are solid foundations. Coyr's
I've read various doom-mongers on here suggesting that the sole purpose of this consortium is to flatten the county ground and make money (even though they wont own it)....It doesn't feel that way to me know that we know some of the characters. These feel like real football people; an ex-player, guys with experience at other clubs etc. Part of me was hoping for Saudi oil barons or Russian oligarchs... However, isn't it better to have people who genuinely care about the game and the fans? Bournemouth may find out shortly how wealthy backers can get bored of their new toys. Also, I've been to see Swindon play at Darlington, a wonderful new empty ground for non-league football. Money men with misguided plans could leave this club in a terrible state. We need stability and longevity. Finally, it speaks volumes about jed that he is going to hear efforts to not leave Banbury it the Sh@t. I have a good feeling these are solid foundations. Coyr's SouthcoastRed
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11:23am Tue 12 Feb 13

davel4848 says...

The item regarding Cheltenham Town is largely irrelevant. All it means is that the current owners didn't want to lose control of, 'their baby'.
The item regarding Cheltenham Town is largely irrelevant. All it means is that the current owners didn't want to lose control of, 'their baby'. davel4848
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11:57am Tue 12 Feb 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Thanks Mr Black for the long notice period you gave for the potential sale and the sale of Ritchie under the Managers nose.

A special thanks also to sticking to the 3 year plan and the assistance in getting STFC into the championship at the best opportunity in years.

I may not have your money but I have spent my fair share following and sponsoring STFC so thanks Andrew for the last two weeks of uncertainty.

If I have upset any fans on here then sorry but this is the way I feel.

This was a big chance and I sincerely hope PDC stays, we get a few more loan players and can finish the job.
It hasn't been made any easier over the past few weeks.

I will be at Tranmere sticking to my 38 year old plan supporting the club I love.

Thanks Andrew for saving us in the first place but not for your swan song.
Agree, great post...
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: Thanks Mr Black for the long notice period you gave for the potential sale and the sale of Ritchie under the Managers nose. A special thanks also to sticking to the 3 year plan and the assistance in getting STFC into the championship at the best opportunity in years. I may not have your money but I have spent my fair share following and sponsoring STFC so thanks Andrew for the last two weeks of uncertainty. If I have upset any fans on here then sorry but this is the way I feel. This was a big chance and I sincerely hope PDC stays, we get a few more loan players and can finish the job. It hasn't been made any easier over the past few weeks. I will be at Tranmere sticking to my 38 year old plan supporting the club I love. Thanks Andrew for saving us in the first place but not for your swan song.[/p][/quote]Agree, great post... STFCman&boy1973
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12:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club.
And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another.
.
For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.
I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion. Oi Den!
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12:06pm Tue 12 Feb 13

killerontheloose says...

they've got no money then............
they've got no money then............ killerontheloose
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12:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

killerontheloose wrote:
they've got no money then............
could be right... :-(
[quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: they've got no money then............[/p][/quote]could be right... :-( STFCman&boy1973
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12:34pm Tue 12 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

STFCman&boy1973 wrote:
killerontheloose wrote:
they've got no money then............
could be right... :-(
Not could be - is! It's as plain as a pike staff!
[quote][p][bold]STFCman&boy1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: they've got no money then............[/p][/quote]could be right... :-([/p][/quote]Not could be - is! It's as plain as a pike staff! The Jockster
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12:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

stfcphil says...

It seems to be apparent that the new owners are not the moneybags operators that many would have hoped for, however, lets put some realism into this. AB was largely co-erced, probably by J Wray, under duress from Paolo, to keep spending money in an effort to get us to the Championship. For whatever reasons, this eventually caused AB too much financial stress, and he decided to find a way out. Many clubs, who have had big money and pressure to succeed have got into big financial trouble when their owners have pulled out and tried to recover their costs, AB hasn't tried to do that. I have concerns about the financial status of the new boys, but will actually be quite a lot happier if the Football League approve their financial plan. What I do not think will be able to continue, is the signing of players that, for whatever reason, are very quickly discarded and become a burden on the club. I think Paolo has learned some lessons in this respect, but he must appreciate moving forward, that it is not his money that he is playing with, and success on his CV is not the only consideration of the owners. I am still baffled as to why any group of people who are not supporters of the club, would want to buy into us, and I hope that the football league will be satisfied that it is for reasons that benefit the club and it's fans.
It seems to be apparent that the new owners are not the moneybags operators that many would have hoped for, however, lets put some realism into this. AB was largely co-erced, probably by J Wray, under duress from Paolo, to keep spending money in an effort to get us to the Championship. For whatever reasons, this eventually caused AB too much financial stress, and he decided to find a way out. Many clubs, who have had big money and pressure to succeed have got into big financial trouble when their owners have pulled out and tried to recover their costs, AB hasn't tried to do that. I have concerns about the financial status of the new boys, but will actually be quite a lot happier if the Football League approve their financial plan. What I do not think will be able to continue, is the signing of players that, for whatever reason, are very quickly discarded and become a burden on the club. I think Paolo has learned some lessons in this respect, but he must appreciate moving forward, that it is not his money that he is playing with, and success on his CV is not the only consideration of the owners. I am still baffled as to why any group of people who are not supporters of the club, would want to buy into us, and I hope that the football league will be satisfied that it is for reasons that benefit the club and it's fans. stfcphil
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12:46pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Jock, Loose Women are on, are you watching ?
Jock, Loose Women are on, are you watching ? the wizard
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12:50pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

The Jockster wrote:
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:
killerontheloose wrote: they've got no money then............
could be right... :-(
Not could be - is! It's as plain as a pike staff!
No money maybe, maybe not, but they will have 75% of STFC....

Presumably they will reveal why are they getting involved and what their plans are later this week. Is there a plan to seek further investment and redevelop?

They seem ambitious men, too early to judge at moment.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFCman&boy1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: they've got no money then............[/p][/quote]could be right... :-([/p][/quote]Not could be - is! It's as plain as a pike staff![/p][/quote]No money maybe, maybe not, but they will have 75% of STFC.... Presumably they will reveal why are they getting involved and what their plans are later this week. Is there a plan to seek further investment and redevelop? They seem ambitious men, too early to judge at moment. Wilesy
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1:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Med Red says...

Wilesy wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:
killerontheloose wrote: they've got no money then............
could be right... :-(
Not could be - is! It's as plain as a pike staff!
No money maybe, maybe not, but they will have 75% of STFC....

Presumably they will reveal why are they getting involved and what their plans are later this week. Is there a plan to seek further investment and redevelop?

They seem ambitious men, too early to judge at moment.
If they don't have sufficient money between them to run the club and meet current financial commitments (players wages, payments to HMRC) the FL won't sanction the take over. I think it's probable they will meet that requirement.

The big question is do they have sufficient wealth to back Paolo in his quest to take us to the Championship....
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFCman&boy1973[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: they've got no money then............[/p][/quote]could be right... :-([/p][/quote]Not could be - is! It's as plain as a pike staff![/p][/quote]No money maybe, maybe not, but they will have 75% of STFC.... Presumably they will reveal why are they getting involved and what their plans are later this week. Is there a plan to seek further investment and redevelop? They seem ambitious men, too early to judge at moment.[/p][/quote]If they don't have sufficient money between them to run the club and meet current financial commitments (players wages, payments to HMRC) the FL won't sanction the take over. I think it's probable they will meet that requirement. The big question is do they have sufficient wealth to back Paolo in his quest to take us to the Championship.... Med Red
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1:11pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Swindon1984 says...

mickry wrote:
I would say that I can't stand much more of this, but of course I can and will. I've been supporting Town for fifty years. How happy I was when we won promotion to the Premiership, but it seems that that was the beginning of our recurrent troubles. All I wish for now is a period of moderate and realistic ambition and success. I think that, with the kind of sensible development seen at Reading over the past few years, the club might rise to established Championship, with occassional Premiership, status. How I hope that the putative new owners really are football people with a common sense approach to what is achievable. Thank goodness we have no fixture this week-end. The gap should give everyone, including Paolo, or whoever might replace him in the event of his (Please! No!) departure, a chance to settle down and move on. More in hope than in expectation. Mick.
Big difference in Reading's fortunes changing was the combination of having land available for next to nothing, and a wealthy financier who was willing to fund a new ground being built - don't think either is available to Swindon. It's become clear that unless there's a new out of town stadium that the club can make money out of, we won't be able to sustain and fund on field success. Unless the consortium include some mega rich bods who are willing to build us a new ground it's likely that League 1 will be the best we can do for the time being. Just trying to be realistic although it might sound negative. Ground redevelopment or relocation get discussed every couple of years but the current arrangement seems to always have been the stumbling block, as we've nothing to sell to fund a move.
[quote][p][bold]mickry[/bold] wrote: I would say that I can't stand much more of this, but of course I can and will. I've been supporting Town for fifty years. How happy I was when we won promotion to the Premiership, but it seems that that was the beginning of our recurrent troubles. All I wish for now is a period of moderate and realistic ambition and success. I think that, with the kind of sensible development seen at Reading over the past few years, the club might rise to established Championship, with occassional Premiership, status. How I hope that the putative new owners really are football people with a common sense approach to what is achievable. Thank goodness we have no fixture this week-end. The gap should give everyone, including Paolo, or whoever might replace him in the event of his (Please! No!) departure, a chance to settle down and move on. More in hope than in expectation. Mick.[/p][/quote]Big difference in Reading's fortunes changing was the combination of having land available for next to nothing, and a wealthy financier who was willing to fund a new ground being built - don't think either is available to Swindon. It's become clear that unless there's a new out of town stadium that the club can make money out of, we won't be able to sustain and fund on field success. Unless the consortium include some mega rich bods who are willing to build us a new ground it's likely that League 1 will be the best we can do for the time being. Just trying to be realistic although it might sound negative. Ground redevelopment or relocation get discussed every couple of years but the current arrangement seems to always have been the stumbling block, as we've nothing to sell to fund a move. Swindon1984
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1:20pm Tue 12 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Med red the answer to your last question surely has to be no although I think they can provide the guarantees to run the club day to day. Yes it is too early to say for sure but none of the names announced so far stands out at me and oozes mega bucks the way AB's name does. Could they run to covering loan wages for DG &BWP yes probably- could they fund another Pdc gaafe like Majoker -unlikely I reckon!
Med red the answer to your last question surely has to be no although I think they can provide the guarantees to run the club day to day. Yes it is too early to say for sure but none of the names announced so far stands out at me and oozes mega bucks the way AB's name does. Could they run to covering loan wages for DG &BWP yes probably- could they fund another Pdc gaafe like Majoker -unlikely I reckon! The Jockster
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1:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Red Nookie Bear says...

ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com)

BREAKING NEWS

DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY

“Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”
ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com) BREAKING NEWS DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY “Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge” Red Nookie Bear
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1:31pm Tue 12 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
Jock, Loose Women are on, are you watching ?
Err no!! Wiz I'm still grafting to keep curmudgeonly old gits like you in Bacchus and beer.

Good post stfcphil and I promise multi coloured swap shop I didn't read or cut paste phils post before my last missive.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Jock, Loose Women are on, are you watching ?[/p][/quote]Err no!! Wiz I'm still grafting to keep curmudgeonly old gits like you in Bacchus and beer. Good post stfcphil and I promise multi coloured swap shop I didn't read or cut paste phils post before my last missive. The Jockster
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1:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.
Good post.
*
It's my opinion that the change of heart is linked to the endless problems involved in moving forward on the stadium redevelopment. I am not going to go back through all the ins and outs here - mostly they are well known - but it is no co-incidence that a succession of attempts to redevelop the ground over the past few ownerships have got nowhere.
*
It's also my view - although I know not shared by many on here - that the club should move to a new stadium on a new site. Basically the club has a stark choice looking forward: to continue as it is, barely viable financially, lurching from one financial crisis to another, with no realistic chance of sustained Championship football; or to 'do a Reading'.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.[/p][/quote]Good post. * It's my opinion that the change of heart is linked to the endless problems involved in moving forward on the stadium redevelopment. I am not going to go back through all the ins and outs here - mostly they are well known - but it is no co-incidence that a succession of attempts to redevelop the ground over the past few ownerships have got nowhere. * It's also my view - although I know not shared by many on here - that the club should move to a new stadium on a new site. Basically the club has a stark choice looking forward: to continue as it is, barely viable financially, lurching from one financial crisis to another, with no realistic chance of sustained Championship football; or to 'do a Reading'. RamsburyRed
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1:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

Read on another thread that one of the guys staying behind the scenes is the owner of Worcester RFU. Now dont get me wrong but if what was also posted that he has awealth of £30m and he is a silent partner IE someone just to put up some coin he is hardly Bill Gates (like i said i wouldnt mind £30m).
Can anyone shed any light on his potential involvement and his wealth. I hope it was a misprint!!!!
Read on another thread that one of the guys staying behind the scenes is the owner of Worcester RFU. Now dont get me wrong but if what was also posted that he has awealth of £30m and he is a silent partner IE someone just to put up some coin he is hardly Bill Gates (like i said i wouldnt mind £30m). Can anyone shed any light on his potential involvement and his wealth. I hope it was a misprint!!!! spectacles testicals wallet watch
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1:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

oncearedalwaysared says...

I am usually a glass half-full kind of guy, but I can't help feeling that there is a potentially bad scenario on the horizon.

I just wonder whether PDC is hanging on until FL ratifies the takeover so that STFC does not go into administration and therefore avoids a 10 pts (+) deduction that would scupper our chance of automatic promotion. Then, once it was agreed and Jed takes over he will walk away, saying he has done as much as he can for the club and the fans but isn't happy with the 'plan' that the new Board has, then he will go.

I hope to goodness I am very wrong but PDC's retoric is just a little too ambiguous for my liking.

As I say, I hope to goodness I am wrong!
I am usually a glass half-full kind of guy, but I can't help feeling that there is a potentially bad scenario on the horizon. I just wonder whether PDC is hanging on until FL ratifies the takeover so that STFC does not go into administration and therefore avoids a 10 pts (+) deduction that would scupper our chance of automatic promotion. Then, once it was agreed and Jed takes over he will walk away, saying he has done as much as he can for the club and the fans but isn't happy with the 'plan' that the new Board has, then he will go. I hope to goodness I am very wrong but PDC's retoric is just a little too ambiguous for my liking. As I say, I hope to goodness I am wrong! oncearedalwaysared
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1:52pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

Why would we go into Administration just because PDC walks? No logic there I'm afraid.
Why would we go into Administration just because PDC walks? No logic there I'm afraid. RamsburyRed
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1:54pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Steve. Brentford says...

Red Nookie Bear wrote:
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BREAKING NEWS

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“Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”
Good thats Paulo taken care of now lets wait and see what his big brother PAOLO does! ;)
[quote][p][bold]Red Nookie Bear[/bold] wrote: ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com) BREAKING NEWS DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY “Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”[/p][/quote]Good thats Paulo taken care of now lets wait and see what his big brother PAOLO does! ;) Steve. Brentford
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2:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

oncearedalwaysared says...

Ramsbury Red, if you are replying to my email, I am not suggestion we will go into Amdinistration if PDC walks. In fact, quite the opposite.

I am suggesting that PDC is waiting until he knows we do NOT go into Administration before walking. Therefore, he can say he ensured that he did all he could to secure the future of the club before deciding to jump ship.

All I am saying is that I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility.
Ramsbury Red, if you are replying to my email, I am not suggestion we will go into Amdinistration if PDC walks. In fact, quite the opposite. I am suggesting that PDC is waiting until he knows we do NOT go into Administration before walking. Therefore, he can say he ensured that he did all he could to secure the future of the club before deciding to jump ship. All I am saying is that I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility. oncearedalwaysared
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2:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

onceandalways - yes, read your post as saying PDC walking would push us into Admin. Sorry.
onceandalways - yes, read your post as saying PDC walking would push us into Admin. Sorry. RamsburyRed
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2:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????
Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved???? spectacles testicals wallet watch
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2:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club.
And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another.
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For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.
Short notice, selling Ritchie, appointing Patey and generally unsettling a club destined for the championship.

It hurts Mate when we were so so close.

Tranmere at home convinced me we were capable ..... And then Black kicks us in the b.......s.

Just a little more time that's all.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.[/p][/quote]Short notice, selling Ritchie, appointing Patey and generally unsettling a club destined for the championship. It hurts Mate when we were so so close. Tranmere at home convinced me we were capable ..... And then Black kicks us in the b.......s. Just a little more time that's all. TheDukeOfBanbury
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2:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

brifromupnorth says...

i dont think Pdc will walk away from The Town before the end of the season ..He is still under contract but W.H UNTD are not renewing Big Sams contract at the end of the season ...good bye PdC
i dont think Pdc will walk away from The Town before the end of the season ..He is still under contract but W.H UNTD are not renewing Big Sams contract at the end of the season ...good bye PdC brifromupnorth
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2:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

burley01rs says...

did anyone read programme on Saturday? In Nick Watkins we trust.
did anyone read programme on Saturday? In Nick Watkins we trust. burley01rs
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2:34pm Tue 12 Feb 13

avo says...

louiscassius wrote:
Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))
I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))[/p][/quote]I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday? avo
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2:36pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oxon-Red says...

Worry not about the consortium's financial clout. I am going to win Euromillions tonight and invest £30M into the club :-)

COYMR
Worry not about the consortium's financial clout. I am going to win Euromillions tonight and invest £30M into the club :-) COYMR Oxon-Red
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2:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

avo wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))
I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?
At least I will always be able to look down at my 3 sided, tin pot local side mate. Will never get that bad :)
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))[/p][/quote]I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?[/p][/quote]At least I will always be able to look down at my 3 sided, tin pot local side mate. Will never get that bad :) TheDukeOfBanbury
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2:50pm Tue 12 Feb 13

avo says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
avo wrote:
louiscassius wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))
I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?
At least I will always be able to look down at my 3 sided, tin pot local side mate. Will never get that bad :)
With the lovely view of a car park behind one goal, with burning cars, pitbulls and peckham towers esc buildings on the skyline?
.
Yeah been there mate, it's football's answer to a skip.
.
How you keeping buddy?
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))[/p][/quote]I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?[/p][/quote]At least I will always be able to look down at my 3 sided, tin pot local side mate. Will never get that bad :)[/p][/quote]With the lovely view of a car park behind one goal, with burning cars, pitbulls and peckham towers esc buildings on the skyline? . Yeah been there mate, it's football's answer to a skip. . How you keeping buddy? avo
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2:50pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Red Nookie Bear wrote: ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com) BREAKING NEWS DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY “Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”
Good thats Paulo taken care of now lets wait and see what his big brother PAOLO does! ;)
Steve thats funny as !! I am waiting to see what happens to his big sister Paulette
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red Nookie Bear[/bold] wrote: ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com) BREAKING NEWS DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY “Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”[/p][/quote]Good thats Paulo taken care of now lets wait and see what his big brother PAOLO does! ;)[/p][/quote]Steve thats funny as !! I am waiting to see what happens to his big sister Paulette Is that you Lovesey
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2:51pm Tue 12 Feb 13

avo says...

I heard Wilder got caught doing 45mph in a 30 zone immediately after last saturdays game.
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Apparently it was his latest desperate attempt to get 3 points.
I heard Wilder got caught doing 45mph in a 30 zone immediately after last saturdays game. . Apparently it was his latest desperate attempt to get 3 points. avo
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2:59pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.
Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon. Oi Den!
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3:13pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Red Nookie Bear says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Red Nookie Bear wrote:
ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com)

BREAKING NEWS

DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY

“Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”
Good thats Paulo taken care of now lets wait and see what his big brother PAOLO does! ;)
Sorry Steve - I used the Latin spelling of Paolo's name and used it in old Latinistic phrasing ways. My himbelest ampologies - Redushtic Nookeirest Bearopalamiro
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red Nookie Bear[/bold] wrote: ADVERT EXCLUSIVE By Secret Squirrel (Close to a Source.com) BREAKING NEWS DI CANIO LINKED TO PAPAL VACANCY “Paulo Di Canio today refused to comment on speculation linking him to the vacancy at the Vatican after current supremo Benny Rapp-Singer’s shock decision to quit. Vatican officials have made no comment on the rumours linking Di Canio to the job but an Advert source close to the organisation has told us that a short list has been drawn up and it is believed the Swindon boss is the number one candidate in many people’s eyes due to the success he has enjoyed at Swindon and his disciplined approach has impressed many. The club has also declined to comment on the mounting speculation surrounding the Vatican’s reported interest in their manager. As usual we will keep you all up to date as more details emerge”[/p][/quote]Good thats Paulo taken care of now lets wait and see what his big brother PAOLO does! ;)[/p][/quote]Sorry Steve - I used the Latin spelling of Paolo's name and used it in old Latinistic phrasing ways. My himbelest ampologies - Redushtic Nookeirest Bearopalamiro Red Nookie Bear
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3:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.
We have been around a long time Den and seen the ups and downs for sure.

PDC has given me my pride, passion and love all things Swindon back at the time when my loyalty was the only thing that kept me going. Yes he had made bad signings and yes maybe we have spent money but the "plan" has changed and then came the unrest.
PDC is unique but what he had achieved in less than 2 seasons is amazing.

I guess more will unfold but as a supporter I can't help feeling that Black could have finished the season off and what a season that would have been.

I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

I guess that I should never have dreamed in the first place, but I did and I have loved every minute from the day PDC started.
I never want it to end but history tells me a bump is around the corner like it always is.

Hey hoo we carry on.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.[/p][/quote]We have been around a long time Den and seen the ups and downs for sure. PDC has given me my pride, passion and love all things Swindon back at the time when my loyalty was the only thing that kept me going. Yes he had made bad signings and yes maybe we have spent money but the "plan" has changed and then came the unrest. PDC is unique but what he had achieved in less than 2 seasons is amazing. I guess more will unfold but as a supporter I can't help feeling that Black could have finished the season off and what a season that would have been. I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. I guess that I should never have dreamed in the first place, but I did and I have loved every minute from the day PDC started. I never want it to end but history tells me a bump is around the corner like it always is. Hey hoo we carry on. TheDukeOfBanbury
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3:20pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

avo wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
avo wrote:
louiscassius wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))
I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?
At least I will always be able to look down at my 3 sided, tin pot local side mate. Will never get that bad :)
With the lovely view of a car park behind one goal, with burning cars, pitbulls and peckham towers esc buildings on the skyline?
.
Yeah been there mate, it's football's answer to a skip.
.
How you keeping buddy?
Good mate and you. Working hard.

Would be good to catch up soon.
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Fingers and toes crossed. Here's hoping and praying... :-)))))[/p][/quote]I thought you said you were'nt logging in again until friday, when posting here yesterday?[/p][/quote]At least I will always be able to look down at my 3 sided, tin pot local side mate. Will never get that bad :)[/p][/quote]With the lovely view of a car park behind one goal, with burning cars, pitbulls and peckham towers esc buildings on the skyline? . Yeah been there mate, it's football's answer to a skip. . How you keeping buddy?[/p][/quote]Good mate and you. Working hard. Would be good to catch up soon. TheDukeOfBanbury
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3:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13

avo says...

Duke - I can't grumble tbh, just wish we could all get to more games...
Duke - I can't grumble tbh, just wish we could all get to more games... avo
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3:36pm Tue 12 Feb 13

sadgit says...

TheDukeOfBanbury says...
I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
TheDukeOfBanbury says... I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. Couldn't have put it better myself. sadgit
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3:39pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

sadgit wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury says...
I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
Nor me.
[quote][p][bold]sadgit[/bold] wrote: TheDukeOfBanbury says... I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. Couldn't have put it better myself.[/p][/quote]Nor me. Oi Den!
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3:43pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Tomcat 1944 says...

I'm no expert on AB's business interests, other than the fact it involves betting. It strikes me that when AB first got involved with Swindon c2008 that finances in the country were reasonable however soon after every thing to do with finances fell apart, shares plummeted as did people's disposable income. It seems to me that AB business took a massive hit and this explains to some extent why he has said enough is enough.
I'm no expert on AB's business interests, other than the fact it involves betting. It strikes me that when AB first got involved with Swindon c2008 that finances in the country were reasonable however soon after every thing to do with finances fell apart, shares plummeted as did people's disposable income. It seems to me that AB business took a massive hit and this explains to some extent why he has said enough is enough. Tomcat 1944
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4:02pm Tue 12 Feb 13

hertz says...

Just passing and I thought , if new consortium now or in the future was finally allowed to re develope out on the M4 corridor what would actually happen to the land at the County Ground ? if itt has to be for the people of the parish to use for liesure the council could'nt do anything with it and they certainly have no plans to put any money in , just look at the cricket ground , supposedly a County Cricket venue , its an embarassment . So what would happen to the land ?
Just passing and I thought , if new consortium now or in the future was finally allowed to re develope out on the M4 corridor what would actually happen to the land at the County Ground ? if itt has to be for the people of the parish to use for liesure the council could'nt do anything with it and they certainly have no plans to put any money in , just look at the cricket ground , supposedly a County Cricket venue , its an embarassment . So what would happen to the land ? hertz
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4:19pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TelSTFC says...

I have done some research and to be honest the new potential owners are not in the same league as Andrew Black.

Having said that perhaps they have a wealthy silent backer as we dont know the full story on their take over bid so far.

Martin King was a former director at Luton Town, who resigned his post at the Hatters in the immediate aftermath of Mike Newell’s controversial sacking in 2007. He is also the founder of corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence.

This is what i found out about Eminence:
Luton-based corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence Leisure has been placed in voluntary liquidation after seven years of trading.
Last week, nightclub operator Luminar had tabled an £800,000 write down on its 20% equity share of Eminence, “a key supplier of DJs and live acts” in its first-half-year interim results, which showed that Eminence had supplied it with bookings worth £6.4 million in the six months to August. Eminence also had recording and event management divisions and dormant music publishing and DJ subsidiaries.
The company’s most recent trading return, for 2007, showed a profit of more than £95,600 on turnover of £17.3 million. Documents filed with Companies House showed the company had debts of almost £792,000 and left total assets estimated at £171,473.
Claiming to be “the United Kingdom’s largest booking agency”, Eminence was one of the biggest suppliers of tribute acts, and was exclusive agent for Chicago Rock Cafe and Jumpin Jaks. In 2003 it acquired Portsmouth competitor Starlight Nites Agency and merged with Wigan-based Alan Frazer the following year.
No one at Eminence was available for comment, with its website now advising visitors to contact Vantis Business Recovery


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Gary Hooper was working as Head of Comercial for Brentford FC along with Mark Devlin & Mike Sullivan ex STFC.

Thats as much as i could find out but i think unless there is a silent backer then the club will be ran within its means i would expect which would mean tight control on player signings, contracts etc.

As the Duke of Banbury & others have said we have been through alot regarding owners & promises and i go back to supporting the team since 1977.
Paolo has put pride back in the club the same as Macari did but Macari didnt have the budget the same as PDC.

Lets hope we get some stability from the new owners but im still not convinced they have the money that Paolo requires.

Lets wait and see...
I have done some research and to be honest the new potential owners are not in the same league as Andrew Black. Having said that perhaps they have a wealthy silent backer as we dont know the full story on their take over bid so far. Martin King was a former director at Luton Town, who resigned his post at the Hatters in the immediate aftermath of Mike Newell’s controversial sacking in 2007. He is also the founder of corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence. This is what i found out about Eminence: Luton-based corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence Leisure has been placed in voluntary liquidation after seven years of trading. Last week, nightclub operator Luminar had tabled an £800,000 write down on its 20% equity share of Eminence, “a key supplier of DJs and live acts” in its first-half-year interim results, which showed that Eminence had supplied it with bookings worth £6.4 million in the six months to August. Eminence also had recording and event management divisions and dormant music publishing and DJ subsidiaries. The company’s most recent trading return, for 2007, showed a profit of more than £95,600 on turnover of £17.3 million. Documents filed with Companies House showed the company had debts of almost £792,000 and left total assets estimated at £171,473. Claiming to be “the United Kingdom’s largest booking agency”, Eminence was one of the biggest suppliers of tribute acts, and was exclusive agent for Chicago Rock Cafe and Jumpin Jaks. In 2003 it acquired Portsmouth competitor Starlight Nites Agency and merged with Wigan-based Alan Frazer the following year. No one at Eminence was available for comment, with its website now advising visitors to contact Vantis Business Recovery Steve Murrall Customer Relationship Director London, United Kingdom Marketing and Advertising Current Ordicium Limited About Ordicium Limited With over 350 million cross sector data records worldwide we offer a complete integrated electronic and traditional marketing solution that is changing the way businesses communicate with their target audience albeit customers, sales force teams or social network communications. Through our multi-layered and dual route marketing approach to data we guarantee to achieve response rates that will exceed the industry standards. Our solutions are significantly enhanced through our ability to create community based communication channels, supported both through hardware and software platforms that bring together your customers, prospects or other target communication groups. Along with this we have a number of innovative solutions that integrate nicely, creating immediate communication with hot prospects. 11-50 employes but their current website does not work?. Gary Hooper was working as Head of Comercial for Brentford FC along with Mark Devlin & Mike Sullivan ex STFC. Thats as much as i could find out but i think unless there is a silent backer then the club will be ran within its means i would expect which would mean tight control on player signings, contracts etc. As the Duke of Banbury & others have said we have been through alot regarding owners & promises and i go back to supporting the team since 1977. Paolo has put pride back in the club the same as Macari did but Macari didnt have the budget the same as PDC. Lets hope we get some stability from the new owners but im still not convinced they have the money that Paolo requires. Lets wait and see... TelSTFC
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4:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

super reds says...

brifromupnorth wrote:
i dont think Pdc will walk away from The Town before the end of the season ..He is still under contract but W.H UNTD are not renewing Big Sams contract at the end of the season ...good bye PdC
Think you've Mis-quoted there Brifromupnorth, I think the words from WHU owner were 'we will discuss his contract once PL survival is achieved' , nothing about not renewing his contract although I think they will be keeping a close eye on the situation with PDC. Can't see West Ham going down though so maybe Sam will get a new contract
[quote][p][bold]brifromupnorth[/bold] wrote: i dont think Pdc will walk away from The Town before the end of the season ..He is still under contract but W.H UNTD are not renewing Big Sams contract at the end of the season ...good bye PdC[/p][/quote]Think you've Mis-quoted there Brifromupnorth, I think the words from WHU owner were 'we will discuss his contract once PL survival is achieved' , nothing about not renewing his contract although I think they will be keeping a close eye on the situation with PDC. Can't see West Ham going down though so maybe Sam will get a new contract super reds
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4:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

hertz wrote:
Just passing and I thought , if new consortium now or in the future was finally allowed to re develope out on the M4 corridor what would actually happen to the land at the County Ground ? if itt has to be for the people of the parish to use for liesure the council could'nt do anything with it and they certainly have no plans to put any money in , just look at the cricket ground , supposedly a County Cricket venue , its an embarassment . So what would happen to the land ?
That is one of the main stumbling blocks. It suits the Council to keep us where we are, but we can't make the necessarily developments on that site - which is unsuitable from an access and increased traffic perspective anyway.
[quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Just passing and I thought , if new consortium now or in the future was finally allowed to re develope out on the M4 corridor what would actually happen to the land at the County Ground ? if itt has to be for the people of the parish to use for liesure the council could'nt do anything with it and they certainly have no plans to put any money in , just look at the cricket ground , supposedly a County Cricket venue , its an embarassment . So what would happen to the land ?[/p][/quote]That is one of the main stumbling blocks. It suits the Council to keep us where we are, but we can't make the necessarily developments on that site - which is unsuitable from an access and increased traffic perspective anyway. RamsburyRed
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4:43pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Hoverish says...

NewburyRobin wrote:
ciclosporindorset wrote:
If I wanted to know about my daughters fiancé I would want to know not only how his bank account used to look, but how he intends to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. It's an old fashioned thing I realise but On that basis I may, just may, give my precious one away. She seems more concerned with his physical prowess which is important to her but I am more interested in the sustainability of the relationship, as should the FL.
Hahahaha a good post, much better than all that bickering stuff & reposting yesterday.
Lot's more that I could add, but it would just be same old, same old.
The loan players appear to be still available, PDC is still here, all we need now is to be patient. Easier said than done I know.
"keep her in the manner she's accustomed to'!
I want more for than that for my daughter - i.e. not be beholden to some bloke!
[quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ciclosporindorset[/bold] wrote: If I wanted to know about my daughters fiancé I would want to know not only how his bank account used to look, but how he intends to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. It's an old fashioned thing I realise but On that basis I may, just may, give my precious one away. She seems more concerned with his physical prowess which is important to her but I am more interested in the sustainability of the relationship, as should the FL.[/p][/quote]Hahahaha a good post, much better than all that bickering stuff & reposting yesterday. Lot's more that I could add, but it would just be same old, same old. The loan players appear to be still available, PDC is still here, all we need now is to be patient. Easier said than done I know.[/p][/quote]"keep her in the manner she's accustomed to'! I want more for than that for my daughter - i.e. not be beholden to some bloke! Hoverish
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4:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

old town robin says...

brifromupnorth wrote:
i dont think Pdc will walk away from The Town before the end of the season ..He is still under contract but W.H UNTD are not renewing Big Sams contract at the end of the season ...good bye PdC
I agree, why would any manager walk in February with 15 games to go, unless like Wilson he was bottom of the league. If Paolo goes it will be in the summer and I don't think his decision will be based on which division we will be playing in, more likely to be a better offer from a bigger club. Many have said Paolo's success mirrored Lou Macari, the manager who said he had taken Swindon town as far as he could, well he also thought he would bring success to West Ham, but failed miserably. The grass is always greener, but as many of todays managers have experience, dealing with multi-millionaire footballers is not quite the same as handling players of a lower pedigree.
[quote][p][bold]brifromupnorth[/bold] wrote: i dont think Pdc will walk away from The Town before the end of the season ..He is still under contract but W.H UNTD are not renewing Big Sams contract at the end of the season ...good bye PdC[/p][/quote]I agree, why would any manager walk in February with 15 games to go, unless like Wilson he was bottom of the league. If Paolo goes it will be in the summer and I don't think his decision will be based on which division we will be playing in, more likely to be a better offer from a bigger club. Many have said Paolo's success mirrored Lou Macari, the manager who said he had taken Swindon town as far as he could, well he also thought he would bring success to West Ham, but failed miserably. The grass is always greener, but as many of todays managers have experience, dealing with multi-millionaire footballers is not quite the same as handling players of a lower pedigree. old town robin
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4:56pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mallorca says...

Wow overnight our posters are financial wiz kids, wake up smell the coffee, when SWP came in he was a hatchet man,as for new investors none of know nothing so shut don´t post crap as to be honest if i was an investor and listened to you guys we would be dead and buried.
All along I have has a negative feeling,yet let´s wait and see what the FL make of it all.
At worse it´s admin with 10 or 20 point deduction but please no more of this crap as nobody knows nothing about the investors.So cool it.
Just feel AB might back peddle as if this deal don´t work admin for him aint the answer, few$$$$ more and who knows we will get promoted
Wow overnight our posters are financial wiz kids, wake up smell the coffee, when SWP came in he was a hatchet man,as for new investors none of know nothing so shut don´t post crap as to be honest if i was an investor and listened to you guys we would be dead and buried. All along I have has a negative feeling,yet let´s wait and see what the FL make of it all. At worse it´s admin with 10 or 20 point deduction but please no more of this crap as nobody knows nothing about the investors.So cool it. Just feel AB might back peddle as if this deal don´t work admin for him aint the answer, few$$$$ more and who knows we will get promoted mallorca
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5:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

NewburyRobin says...

RamsburyRed wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:

I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.
Good post.
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It's my opinion that the change of heart is linked to the endless problems involved in moving forward on the stadium redevelopment. I am not going to go back through all the ins and outs here - mostly they are well known - but it is no co-incidence that a succession of attempts to redevelop the ground over the past few ownerships have got nowhere.
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It's also my view - although I know not shared by many on here - that the club should move to a new stadium on a new site. Basically the club has a stark choice looking forward: to continue as it is, barely viable financially, lurching from one financial crisis to another, with no realistic chance of sustained Championship football; or to 'do a Reading'.
Two very good posts.

Mr Black is entitled to do whatever with his money, it is just the timing. It seems to me he could not have picked a worse date if he had tried.

The variety Matt Richie gave us was a big miss on Saturday.

Short & sweet but the two posts + my two peneth just about do it for me.
[quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.[/p][/quote]Good post. * It's my opinion that the change of heart is linked to the endless problems involved in moving forward on the stadium redevelopment. I am not going to go back through all the ins and outs here - mostly they are well known - but it is no co-incidence that a succession of attempts to redevelop the ground over the past few ownerships have got nowhere. * It's also my view - although I know not shared by many on here - that the club should move to a new stadium on a new site. Basically the club has a stark choice looking forward: to continue as it is, barely viable financially, lurching from one financial crisis to another, with no realistic chance of sustained Championship football; or to 'do a Reading'.[/p][/quote]Two very good posts. Mr Black is entitled to do whatever with his money, it is just the timing. It seems to me he could not have picked a worse date if he had tried. The variety Matt Richie gave us was a big miss on Saturday. Short & sweet but the two posts + my two peneth just about do it for me. NewburyRobin
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5:09pm Tue 12 Feb 13

sw1ndon says...

Seems to me that this new consortium are small time businessmen who want to dabble in a mega rich mans world. Just because they are football people. I would guess they will help pdc with loan players hoping to get promotion this season and then either sell the club on at a profit once they realise the costs of player wages upon promotion, or just run club on shoestring and be satisfied at league 2 level. I think the football league should block any takeover unless a consortium can prove sufficient funds to at least sustain the current position in league.
Seems to me that this new consortium are small time businessmen who want to dabble in a mega rich mans world. Just because they are football people. I would guess they will help pdc with loan players hoping to get promotion this season and then either sell the club on at a profit once they realise the costs of player wages upon promotion, or just run club on shoestring and be satisfied at league 2 level. I think the football league should block any takeover unless a consortium can prove sufficient funds to at least sustain the current position in league. sw1ndon
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5:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

hornet says...

TelSTFC wrote:
I have done some research and to be honest the new potential owners are not in the same league as Andrew Black.

Having said that perhaps they have a wealthy silent backer as we dont know the full story on their take over bid so far.

Martin King was a former director at Luton Town, who resigned his post at the Hatters in the immediate aftermath of Mike Newell’s controversial sacking in 2007. He is also the founder of corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence.

This is what i found out about Eminence:
Luton-based corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence Leisure has been placed in voluntary liquidation after seven years of trading.
Last week, nightclub operator Luminar had tabled an £800,000 write down on its 20% equity share of Eminence, “a key supplier of DJs and live acts” in its first-half-year interim results, which showed that Eminence had supplied it with bookings worth £6.4 million in the six months to August. Eminence also had recording and event management divisions and dormant music publishing and DJ subsidiaries.
The company’s most recent trading return, for 2007, showed a profit of more than £95,600 on turnover of £17.3 million. Documents filed with Companies House showed the company had debts of almost £792,000 and left total assets estimated at £171,473.
Claiming to be “the United Kingdom’s largest booking agency”, Eminence was one of the biggest suppliers of tribute acts, and was exclusive agent for Chicago Rock Cafe and Jumpin Jaks. In 2003 it acquired Portsmouth competitor Starlight Nites Agency and merged with Wigan-based Alan Frazer the following year.
No one at Eminence was available for comment, with its website now advising visitors to contact Vantis Business Recovery


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Our solutions are significantly enhanced through our ability to create community based communication channels, supported both through hardware and software platforms that bring together your customers, prospects or other target communication groups. Along with this we have a number of innovative solutions that integrate nicely, creating immediate communication with hot prospects.

11-50 employes but their current website does not work?.

Gary Hooper was working as Head of Comercial for Brentford FC along with Mark Devlin & Mike Sullivan ex STFC.

Thats as much as i could find out but i think unless there is a silent backer then the club will be ran within its means i would expect which would mean tight control on player signings, contracts etc.

As the Duke of Banbury & others have said we have been through alot regarding owners & promises and i go back to supporting the team since 1977.
Paolo has put pride back in the club the same as Macari did but Macari didnt have the budget the same as PDC.

Lets hope we get some stability from the new owners but im still not convinced they have the money that Paolo requires.

Lets wait and see...
Not all Bad then

They will improve the PA System in the ground

And then sign Messi & Beckham (lookalikes )

This doesn't look to encouraging

If the new board are listening can we have requests
[quote][p][bold]TelSTFC[/bold] wrote: I have done some research and to be honest the new potential owners are not in the same league as Andrew Black. Having said that perhaps they have a wealthy silent backer as we dont know the full story on their take over bid so far. Martin King was a former director at Luton Town, who resigned his post at the Hatters in the immediate aftermath of Mike Newell’s controversial sacking in 2007. He is also the founder of corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence. This is what i found out about Eminence: Luton-based corporate entertainment booking agency Eminence Leisure has been placed in voluntary liquidation after seven years of trading. Last week, nightclub operator Luminar had tabled an £800,000 write down on its 20% equity share of Eminence, “a key supplier of DJs and live acts” in its first-half-year interim results, which showed that Eminence had supplied it with bookings worth £6.4 million in the six months to August. Eminence also had recording and event management divisions and dormant music publishing and DJ subsidiaries. The company’s most recent trading return, for 2007, showed a profit of more than £95,600 on turnover of £17.3 million. Documents filed with Companies House showed the company had debts of almost £792,000 and left total assets estimated at £171,473. Claiming to be “the United Kingdom’s largest booking agency”, Eminence was one of the biggest suppliers of tribute acts, and was exclusive agent for Chicago Rock Cafe and Jumpin Jaks. In 2003 it acquired Portsmouth competitor Starlight Nites Agency and merged with Wigan-based Alan Frazer the following year. No one at Eminence was available for comment, with its website now advising visitors to contact Vantis Business Recovery Steve Murrall Customer Relationship Director London, United Kingdom Marketing and Advertising Current Ordicium Limited About Ordicium Limited With over 350 million cross sector data records worldwide we offer a complete integrated electronic and traditional marketing solution that is changing the way businesses communicate with their target audience albeit customers, sales force teams or social network communications. Through our multi-layered and dual route marketing approach to data we guarantee to achieve response rates that will exceed the industry standards. Our solutions are significantly enhanced through our ability to create community based communication channels, supported both through hardware and software platforms that bring together your customers, prospects or other target communication groups. Along with this we have a number of innovative solutions that integrate nicely, creating immediate communication with hot prospects. 11-50 employes but their current website does not work?. Gary Hooper was working as Head of Comercial for Brentford FC along with Mark Devlin & Mike Sullivan ex STFC. Thats as much as i could find out but i think unless there is a silent backer then the club will be ran within its means i would expect which would mean tight control on player signings, contracts etc. As the Duke of Banbury & others have said we have been through alot regarding owners & promises and i go back to supporting the team since 1977. Paolo has put pride back in the club the same as Macari did but Macari didnt have the budget the same as PDC. Lets hope we get some stability from the new owners but im still not convinced they have the money that Paolo requires. Lets wait and see...[/p][/quote]Not all Bad then They will improve the PA System in the ground And then sign Messi & Beckham (lookalikes ) This doesn't look to encouraging If the new board are listening can we have requests hornet
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5:14pm Tue 12 Feb 13

bradley red 1 says...

If this new consortium gain control of the club the big question for me is why did the cheltenham town chairman not entertain any bid from mr mccrory? something dont feel right about these people,,time will tell but it looks like administration or jed and his gang,a big IF they get football league approval.
If this new consortium gain control of the club the big question for me is why did the cheltenham town chairman not entertain any bid from mr mccrory? something dont feel right about these people,,time will tell but it looks like administration or jed and his gang,a big IF they get football league approval. bradley red 1
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5:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Stratton Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.
Den, whilst I don't know the facts, prima facia you have to admit it's very strange that a Director would go out of his way to secure 'The' major shareholding and then complain about propping it up...
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It appears he and Fitton fell out over the philiosophy of football club mgt. spend or balance, AB favoured spend to achieve success, is seemingly on the verge of that success and then bottles it.
*
Maybe he has money issues and/or didn't want to put in the additional £1m until May (based on the rumours we're losing £50k a week) but what was his motive to become major shareholder???
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.[/p][/quote]Den, whilst I don't know the facts, prima facia you have to admit it's very strange that a Director would go out of his way to secure 'The' major shareholding and then complain about propping it up... * It appears he and Fitton fell out over the philiosophy of football club mgt. spend or balance, AB favoured spend to achieve success, is seemingly on the verge of that success and then bottles it. * Maybe he has money issues and/or didn't want to put in the additional £1m until May (based on the rumours we're losing £50k a week) but what was his motive to become major shareholder??? Stratton Red
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5:41pm Tue 12 Feb 13

MITTED says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club.
And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another.
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For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.
I too am grateful for Andrew Black's now written-off investment but he hasn't helped himself over the way the sale of the club has been handled. It all started going wrong with the bizaar installation of Sir William Patey as Chairman who was bought in supposedly to find a buyer and yet when one has been found, we haven't heard a single word from him (it would have been nice if he could alay some fears). Saying that, I don't blame SWPT after the number of gaffs he made in various interviews, which made fans very nervous indeed. We are then told that Andrew Black said he won't leave a 'car crash' and in a matter of days, that is exactly what he created. The whole sorry saga has been poorly managed from start to (almost) finish and the blame for that lies squarely at Andrew Black's door. Andrew, I am sure most if not all fans will thank you for what you have done for the club over the last 5 years but the way of your departer leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth. Hopefully when the new owners finally break cover. that taste will become sweeter.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I find the criticism of Andrew Black harsh and a tad strange. It's become clear that he's been propping the club up on his own for some time. Why should he, as the last man standing, be taking this flak? I don't know the intricate details of what's gone on at the County Ground; it seems to be a complicated situation. But it also appears that, at the end of this process, Andrew Black will have given - not loaned or "invested" - several million pounds to the football club. I doubt that there are many football club owners who have turned out to be genuine benefactors in this way. Not only that, he is also interested enough to retain ownership of a quarter of the club. And people want to give him grief! Who'd be a football club owner, eh? It nearly always ends in tears one way or another. . For me, the unanswered question remains "What is it that changed the minds of Mr Black and his co-owners?" Perhaps more to the point, will our new owners - assuming they get approval - please tell us how they plan to run the club, what their ambitions are, and - the biggest question of all in my mind - why? Transparency must be the order of the day if these people do not want to be regarded with scepticism and / or suspicion.[/p][/quote]I too am grateful for Andrew Black's now written-off investment but he hasn't helped himself over the way the sale of the club has been handled. It all started going wrong with the bizaar installation of Sir William Patey as Chairman who was bought in supposedly to find a buyer and yet when one has been found, we haven't heard a single word from him (it would have been nice if he could alay some fears). Saying that, I don't blame SWPT after the number of gaffs he made in various interviews, which made fans very nervous indeed. We are then told that Andrew Black said he won't leave a 'car crash' and in a matter of days, that is exactly what he created. The whole sorry saga has been poorly managed from start to (almost) finish and the blame for that lies squarely at Andrew Black's door. Andrew, I am sure most if not all fans will thank you for what you have done for the club over the last 5 years but the way of your departer leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth. Hopefully when the new owners finally break cover. that taste will become sweeter. COYR MITTED
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5:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mallorca says...

new investors small time???
again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club
What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady
new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady mallorca
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5:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.
We have been around a long time Den and seen the ups and downs for sure.

PDC has given me my pride, passion and love all things Swindon back at the time when my loyalty was the only thing that kept me going. Yes he had made bad signings and yes maybe we have spent money but the "plan" has changed and then came the unrest.
PDC is unique but what he had achieved in less than 2 seasons is amazing.

I guess more will unfold but as a supporter I can't help feeling that Black could have finished the season off and what a season that would have been.

I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

I guess that I should never have dreamed in the first place, but I did and I have loved every minute from the day PDC started.
I never want it to end but history tells me a bump is around the corner like it always is.

Hey hoo we carry on.
Good Shout Dukey!!
...
..and well done for being far more 'in perspective' than I've been....not so happy with the new boys...but going to enjoy the next promotion before I even think about it!
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.[/p][/quote]We have been around a long time Den and seen the ups and downs for sure. PDC has given me my pride, passion and love all things Swindon back at the time when my loyalty was the only thing that kept me going. Yes he had made bad signings and yes maybe we have spent money but the "plan" has changed and then came the unrest. PDC is unique but what he had achieved in less than 2 seasons is amazing. I guess more will unfold but as a supporter I can't help feeling that Black could have finished the season off and what a season that would have been. I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. I guess that I should never have dreamed in the first place, but I did and I have loved every minute from the day PDC started. I never want it to end but history tells me a bump is around the corner like it always is. Hey hoo we carry on.[/p][/quote]Good Shout Dukey!! ... ..and well done for being far more 'in perspective' than I've been....not so happy with the new boys...but going to enjoy the next promotion before I even think about it! SAPFanSTFC
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5:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.
We have been around a long time Den and seen the ups and downs for sure.

PDC has given me my pride, passion and love all things Swindon back at the time when my loyalty was the only thing that kept me going. Yes he had made bad signings and yes maybe we have spent money but the "plan" has changed and then came the unrest.
PDC is unique but what he had achieved in less than 2 seasons is amazing.

I guess more will unfold but as a supporter I can't help feeling that Black could have finished the season off and what a season that would have been.

I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

I guess that I should never have dreamed in the first place, but I did and I have loved every minute from the day PDC started.
I never want it to end but history tells me a bump is around the corner like it always is.

Hey hoo we carry on.
Good Shout Dukey!!
...
..and well done for being far more 'in perspective' than I've been....not so happy with the new boys...but going to enjoy the next promotion before I even think about it!
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Duke, I've been through all the same thoughts and emotions as you. It does feel like a kick in the balls but I imagine that's the last thing Black intended. Without knowing all the facts, I don't know whether he has done the same thing anyone else would have done in the same circumstances. You say it was short notice but was the notice really that short? When our esteemed chairman was appointed, it was made clear that part of his job (perhaps almost the whole of his job?) was to look for new "investors". It is a huge disappointment that the sale of Ritchie wasn't avoided but Black actually said that he vetoed it first of all. Maybe his hand was forced in the end? It is easy for us to say that he could have pulled another rabbit out of the hat - i.e. £500k out of his pocket - to tide us over but I'm not going to judge him without knowing the facts. One fact I do know is that overall the last 5 years have been pretty good, despite the fact that Malpas's management never really spluttered into life and Wilson's ended in complete disarray. Without Black, we might have had to start again from scratch like Aldershot or Wimbledon.[/p][/quote]We have been around a long time Den and seen the ups and downs for sure. PDC has given me my pride, passion and love all things Swindon back at the time when my loyalty was the only thing that kept me going. Yes he had made bad signings and yes maybe we have spent money but the "plan" has changed and then came the unrest. PDC is unique but what he had achieved in less than 2 seasons is amazing. I guess more will unfold but as a supporter I can't help feeling that Black could have finished the season off and what a season that would have been. I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. I guess that I should never have dreamed in the first place, but I did and I have loved every minute from the day PDC started. I never want it to end but history tells me a bump is around the corner like it always is. Hey hoo we carry on.[/p][/quote]Good Shout Dukey!! ... ..and well done for being far more 'in perspective' than I've been....not so happy with the new boys...but going to enjoy the next promotion before I even think about it! SAPFanSTFC
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6:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

mallorca wrote:
new investors small time???
again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club
What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady
Yes and Supporters who go home and away and sponsor matches.
I have spent a lot of money over the years and even "given" money to the club in hard times.

For years I dreamt of championship football and you know what this season we could have made it. we still could but in my eyes it will be more difficult.

If in case you have noticed I am feeling" pretty pi@@ed off right now as it was going very well indeed,

Once again the Swindon cloud of uncertainty hangs over the CG after one big mighty "car crash" on a straight road.

As I am typing this I recall standing in the TE against Darlington with less than 2,000 in the crowd our lowest gate.

I tell my lads once you choose your team you are stuck with it.
Why can't I have what I dreamed for. The premiership days are way in the past. Can't change my team now but getting older and thinking is this it bouncing between Div 1 and 2 ?

Keep the faith. It just wears thin every now and again.
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady[/p][/quote]Yes and Supporters who go home and away and sponsor matches. I have spent a lot of money over the years and even "given" money to the club in hard times. For years I dreamt of championship football and you know what this season we could have made it. we still could but in my eyes it will be more difficult. If in case you have noticed I am feeling" pretty pi@@ed off right now as it was going very well indeed, Once again the Swindon cloud of uncertainty hangs over the CG after one big mighty "car crash" on a straight road. As I am typing this I recall standing in the TE against Darlington with less than 2,000 in the crowd our lowest gate. I tell my lads once you choose your team you are stuck with it. Why can't I have what I dreamed for. The premiership days are way in the past. Can't change my team now but getting older and thinking is this it bouncing between Div 1 and 2 ? Keep the faith. It just wears thin every now and again. TheDukeOfBanbury
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6:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

Stratton, I completely agree that those are two very interesting questions. However, I wouldn't necessarily agree with any of the assumptions in your second paragraph. I suspect there was a very good reason for the timing of Black's actions, however odd it may seem to us, and I got the impression that he didn't act without giving the whole thing a lot of serious thought. It's not our money at stake and we are not armed with knowledge of the circumstances. To say Black has bottled it is to make a rash and unfair assumption, I feel. He seems keen to say more when the dust has settled. I hope he does. In the meantime, my view of him will be based on the probability that he has given more money to Swindon Town Football Club than any other individual in history.
.
But yes, "why in?" and "why out?" are the questions that continue to intrigue both of us.
Stratton, I completely agree that those are two very interesting questions. However, I wouldn't necessarily agree with any of the assumptions in your second paragraph. I suspect there was a very good reason for the timing of Black's actions, however odd it may seem to us, and I got the impression that he didn't act without giving the whole thing a lot of serious thought. It's not our money at stake and we are not armed with knowledge of the circumstances. To say Black has bottled it is to make a rash and unfair assumption, I feel. He seems keen to say more when the dust has settled. I hope he does. In the meantime, my view of him will be based on the probability that he has given more money to Swindon Town Football Club than any other individual in history. . But yes, "why in?" and "why out?" are the questions that continue to intrigue both of us. Oi Den!
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6:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Thanks Mr Black for the long notice period you gave for the potential sale and the sale of Ritchie under the Managers nose. A special thanks also to sticking to the 3 year plan and the assistance in getting STFC into the championship at the best opportunity in years. I may not have your money but I have spent my fair share following and sponsoring STFC so thanks Andrew for the last two weeks of uncertainty. If I have upset any fans on here then sorry but this is the way I feel. This was a big chance and I sincerely hope PDC stays, we get a few more loan players and can finish the job. It hasn't been made any easier over the past few weeks. I will be at Tranmere sticking to my 38 year old plan supporting the club I love. Thanks Andrew for saving us in the first place but not for your swan song.
Best quote on here 4 many a years..
Straight from the heart...

Fairplay 2ya Duck
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: Thanks Mr Black for the long notice period you gave for the potential sale and the sale of Ritchie under the Managers nose. A special thanks also to sticking to the 3 year plan and the assistance in getting STFC into the championship at the best opportunity in years. I may not have your money but I have spent my fair share following and sponsoring STFC so thanks Andrew for the last two weeks of uncertainty. If I have upset any fans on here then sorry but this is the way I feel. This was a big chance and I sincerely hope PDC stays, we get a few more loan players and can finish the job. It hasn't been made any easier over the past few weeks. I will be at Tranmere sticking to my 38 year old plan supporting the club I love. Thanks Andrew for saving us in the first place but not for your swan song.[/p][/quote]Best quote on here 4 many a years.. Straight from the heart... Fairplay 2ya Duck DarrenSTFCRomain
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7:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Tomcat 1944 says...

Think I'm missing something with this takeover - why would a group of 5 business people take over STFC with the expectation of making a loss, a big loss at that, they must have a viable financial model and a plan for taking the club forward, nothing else makes any sense - does it?
Think I'm missing something with this takeover - why would a group of 5 business people take over STFC with the expectation of making a loss, a big loss at that, they must have a viable financial model and a plan for taking the club forward, nothing else makes any sense - does it? Tomcat 1944
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7:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
sadgit wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury says...
I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
Nor me.
I say that we've seen as good if not better eras. How about the Williams era (League Cup and a whisker of the top flight), the Eastoe era, the Rowlands and Mayes era, the Macari era, the Ardilles/Hoddle era when we did get to the Premiership, and possible even the Austin era when we got to the play-off final.

Despite a great 2 years, PdC has not been able to equal any of these yet.

People have short memories.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sadgit[/bold] wrote: TheDukeOfBanbury says... I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. Couldn't have put it better myself.[/p][/quote]Nor me.[/p][/quote]I say that we've seen as good if not better eras. How about the Williams era (League Cup and a whisker of the top flight), the Eastoe era, the Rowlands and Mayes era, the Macari era, the Ardilles/Hoddle era when we did get to the Premiership, and possible even the Austin era when we got to the play-off final. Despite a great 2 years, PdC has not been able to equal any of these yet. People have short memories. mancrobin
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7:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Swindon1984 says...

mallorca wrote:
new investors small time???
again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club
What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady
I'm confused, yes we're fortunate someone wants to buy out Black and save us from admin, but how does being an expat mean you're living in the real world but we're not? Not having a go, just that considering you're questioning the qualitu of posts on here that has to be one of the weirdest I've heard for a while!
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady[/p][/quote]I'm confused, yes we're fortunate someone wants to buy out Black and save us from admin, but how does being an expat mean you're living in the real world but we're not? Not having a go, just that considering you're questioning the qualitu of posts on here that has to be one of the weirdest I've heard for a while! Swindon1984
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8:06pm Tue 12 Feb 13

tally38 says...

pack just scored for cheltenham
pack just scored for cheltenham tally38
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8:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
sadgit wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury says...
I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
Nor me.
I say that we've seen as good if not better eras. How about the Williams era (League Cup and a whisker of the top flight), the Eastoe era, the Rowlands and Mayes era, the Macari era, the Ardilles/Hoddle era when we did get to the Premiership, and possible even the Austin era when we got to the play-off final.

Despite a great 2 years, PdC has not been able to equal any of these yet.

People have short memories.
Steady on manc. I agree with most of that, but I think it's fair to say there's a similarity with the Macari era - discipline, fitness etc. As has been pointed out, Macari had to do it on a shoestring (but perhaps we made up for that disadvantage with our dodgy practices).
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sadgit[/bold] wrote: TheDukeOfBanbury says... I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. Couldn't have put it better myself.[/p][/quote]Nor me.[/p][/quote]I say that we've seen as good if not better eras. How about the Williams era (League Cup and a whisker of the top flight), the Eastoe era, the Rowlands and Mayes era, the Macari era, the Ardilles/Hoddle era when we did get to the Premiership, and possible even the Austin era when we got to the play-off final. Despite a great 2 years, PdC has not been able to equal any of these yet. People have short memories.[/p][/quote]Steady on manc. I agree with most of that, but I think it's fair to say there's a similarity with the Macari era - discipline, fitness etc. As has been pointed out, Macari had to do it on a shoestring (but perhaps we made up for that disadvantage with our dodgy practices). Oi Den!
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8:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

swindon1969 says...

Duke
how times have changed eh? its only been a couple of years since i met you man, whats happend eh? you were full of bounce, pround, which of course you still are, as i am, dont give up mate,the good times are ahead, maybe not with these chaps, or the next chaps, but we have to get a bigger ground, we have to get Swindon town out there, our club have the ability to get more support, but at this moment in time(again) we are shaffted, the new peeps think they can do better, why not? probably ground development again, m4 who knows, as a club circles, and square pegs seem to fit, one way or the other we will sucseed, 18 months, 24 months, 36 months.
Chin up mate, and thank you again for your sponsership of the the team, and every thing else youve done,and of course meeting me!
Duke how times have changed eh? its only been a couple of years since i met you man, whats happend eh? you were full of bounce, pround, which of course you still are, as i am, dont give up mate,the good times are ahead, maybe not with these chaps, or the next chaps, but we have to get a bigger ground, we have to get Swindon town out there, our club have the ability to get more support, but at this moment in time(again) we are shaffted, the new peeps think they can do better, why not? probably ground development again, m4 who knows, as a club circles, and square pegs seem to fit, one way or the other we will sucseed, 18 months, 24 months, 36 months. Chin up mate, and thank you again for your sponsership of the the team, and every thing else youve done,and of course meeting me! swindon1969
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8:14pm Tue 12 Feb 13

forzaswindon12 says...

why doesnt it say anywhere how much the new consortium is worth? will we be told this and whether there is any other mystery backer involved in the takeover?
this is surely the crux of the issue here and whether or not pdc will stay and whether championship football is sustainable in the near future.
who thinks the previous owners plans of ground redevelopment to a 20k stadium will happen now?
why doesnt it say anywhere how much the new consortium is worth? will we be told this and whether there is any other mystery backer involved in the takeover? this is surely the crux of the issue here and whether or not pdc will stay and whether championship football is sustainable in the near future. who thinks the previous owners plans of ground redevelopment to a 20k stadium will happen now? forzaswindon12
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8:27pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Tomcat 1944 says...

forzaswindon12 wrote:
why doesnt it say anywhere how much the new consortium is worth? will we be told this and whether there is any other mystery backer involved in the takeover?
this is surely the crux of the issue here and whether or not pdc will stay and whether championship football is sustainable in the near future.
who thinks the previous owners plans of ground redevelopment to a 20k stadium will happen now?
Does it matter what the new lot are worth as long as they have some financial clout to take us forward. I seem to remember that Fittons lot were worth 100's of millions when they took over, don't count for much now though does it. I repeat what I said earlier why would anyone take over a football club in financial trouble without a robust plan to to move the club forward.
[quote][p][bold]forzaswindon12[/bold] wrote: why doesnt it say anywhere how much the new consortium is worth? will we be told this and whether there is any other mystery backer involved in the takeover? this is surely the crux of the issue here and whether or not pdc will stay and whether championship football is sustainable in the near future. who thinks the previous owners plans of ground redevelopment to a 20k stadium will happen now?[/p][/quote]Does it matter what the new lot are worth as long as they have some financial clout to take us forward. I seem to remember that Fittons lot were worth 100's of millions when they took over, don't count for much now though does it. I repeat what I said earlier why would anyone take over a football club in financial trouble without a robust plan to to move the club forward. Tomcat 1944
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8:31pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mike1990 says...

Still no news then?haven't logged on for a while bored with all the in fighting and posts slagging off one another,nobody knows nothing,so it's just a matter of waiting,least we haven't got a game for another week so still got time for some loans if or when this deal gets done.
Still no news then?haven't logged on for a while bored with all the in fighting and posts slagging off one another,nobody knows nothing,so it's just a matter of waiting,least we haven't got a game for another week so still got time for some loans if or when this deal gets done. mike1990
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8:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

sunnyd22 says...

Is the value of the consortium relevant or their backers? I for one think anyone willing to take the front foot on this kind of deal when clearly the club is spending more that they have and no way is it sustainable then they should have our backing. Swindon will go to admin without a buyout, these guys are stepping up, maybe they will make STFC a viable long term option. COYMR........
Is the value of the consortium relevant or their backers? I for one think anyone willing to take the front foot on this kind of deal when clearly the club is spending more that they have and no way is it sustainable then they should have our backing. Swindon will go to admin without a buyout, these guys are stepping up, maybe they will make STFC a viable long term option. COYMR........ sunnyd22
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8:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

robstfc says...

I think we just need to wait for the deal to be completely, hopefully tomorrow, and see what they have to say to us...

I agree with a few others.... Why would they want to purchase a club with no ambition (or cash) to progress it? Just don't see the point in that...,,

I'm hopeful of some good news soon. Apparently part of the meeting tomorrow they need prove they have a viable financial plan for the next 3 years.. So assuming they get through this process, it must be good news surely? Or is that me with my half full glass again?

I dream of promotion this year, then consolidate in the championship for a few seasons while relocating to a new ground..... That be my 5 year plan anyway (if I had a spare £50m). Just can't believe we've been away from the championship for 12 years.....

Only worry is the news today that they failed in attempt to take over at Cheltenham....seems a bit strange...

Figures crossed for tomorrow.
I think we just need to wait for the deal to be completely, hopefully tomorrow, and see what they have to say to us... I agree with a few others.... Why would they want to purchase a club with no ambition (or cash) to progress it? Just don't see the point in that...,, I'm hopeful of some good news soon. Apparently part of the meeting tomorrow they need prove they have a viable financial plan for the next 3 years.. So assuming they get through this process, it must be good news surely? Or is that me with my half full glass again? I dream of promotion this year, then consolidate in the championship for a few seasons while relocating to a new ground..... That be my 5 year plan anyway (if I had a spare £50m). Just can't believe we've been away from the championship for 12 years..... Only worry is the news today that they failed in attempt to take over at Cheltenham....seems a bit strange... Figures crossed for tomorrow. robstfc
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8:43pm Tue 12 Feb 13

sunnyd22 says...

My understanding is Cheltenham is a load of BS. McCrory by all accounts is a fix it man with good football connections, King?????? Who knows??? Cooper is apparently very experienced in commercial deals in football and Murrall is the business management person, based on what I found on linked in. Look , the point is these guys are obviously not he money men, but are they the people to bring reality to the club? Not got the answer but I would rather have experienced business people than no idea money men as long as they have the funding behind them to stabilise the club... COYMR
My understanding is Cheltenham is a load of BS. McCrory by all accounts is a fix it man with good football connections, King?????? Who knows??? Cooper is apparently very experienced in commercial deals in football and Murrall is the business management person, based on what I found on linked in. Look , the point is these guys are obviously not he money men, but are they the people to bring reality to the club? Not got the answer but I would rather have experienced business people than no idea money men as long as they have the funding behind them to stabilise the club... COYMR sunnyd22
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8:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
sadgit wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury says...
I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
Nor me.
I say that we've seen as good if not better eras. How about the Williams era (League Cup and a whisker of the top flight), the Eastoe era, the Rowlands and Mayes era, the Macari era, the Ardilles/Hoddle era when we did get to the Premiership, and possible even the Austin era when we got to the play-off final.

Despite a great 2 years, PdC has not been able to equal any of these yet.

People have short memories.
Steady on manc. I agree with most of that, but I think it's fair to say there's a similarity with the Macari era - discipline, fitness etc. As has been pointed out, Macari had to do it on a shoestring (but perhaps we made up for that disadvantage with our dodgy practices).
Fair point.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sadgit[/bold] wrote: TheDukeOfBanbury says... I have loved this PDC era and has so many similarities to the Lou Macari days. We are one point off top spot but does not feel like it due to what has happened. Couldn't have put it better myself.[/p][/quote]Nor me.[/p][/quote]I say that we've seen as good if not better eras. How about the Williams era (League Cup and a whisker of the top flight), the Eastoe era, the Rowlands and Mayes era, the Macari era, the Ardilles/Hoddle era when we did get to the Premiership, and possible even the Austin era when we got to the play-off final. Despite a great 2 years, PdC has not been able to equal any of these yet. People have short memories.[/p][/quote]Steady on manc. I agree with most of that, but I think it's fair to say there's a similarity with the Macari era - discipline, fitness etc. As has been pointed out, Macari had to do it on a shoestring (but perhaps we made up for that disadvantage with our dodgy practices).[/p][/quote]Fair point. mancrobin
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9:29pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

mallorca wrote:
new investors small time???
again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club
What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady
Ummm Mallorca i feel its you who doesnt live in the real world. People have looked up the new consortium and rightly so. Who are they, what is their back ground, and ultimately how much lolly do they have?
All this is relevant info for how we may fare for the rest of the season and beyond IE are we serious about promotion and a successfull shot in the championship. As for people should be an expat to see the real world YOU chose that route in life, just like i chose my profession, and believe me when you have seen the sights i have (and im not talking warm sangria or pi55ed up tourists) then you have seen the real world.
Dont ever assume you have it harder than everyone else
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady[/p][/quote]Ummm Mallorca i feel its you who doesnt live in the real world. People have looked up the new consortium and rightly so. Who are they, what is their back ground, and ultimately how much lolly do they have? All this is relevant info for how we may fare for the rest of the season and beyond IE are we serious about promotion and a successfull shot in the championship. As for people should be an expat to see the real world YOU chose that route in life, just like i chose my profession, and believe me when you have seen the sights i have (and im not talking warm sangria or pi55ed up tourists) then you have seen the real world. Dont ever assume you have it harder than everyone else spectacles testicals wallet watch
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9:38pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Cookie43 says...

poxy bornmuff!!!!!!!!!1
poxy bornmuff!!!!!!!!!1 Cookie43
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9:39pm Tue 12 Feb 13

joey butler says...

spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????
Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know!
[quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????[/p][/quote]Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know! joey butler
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9:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

joey butler wrote:
spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????
Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know!
I understand that but as he has been found out to talk proper shat he hasnt posted since and i think i miss him
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????[/p][/quote]Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know![/p][/quote]I understand that but as he has been found out to talk proper shat he hasnt posted since and i think i miss him spectacles testicals wallet watch
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9:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the don69 says...

spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
joey butler wrote:
spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????
Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know!
I understand that but as he has been found out to talk proper shat he hasnt posted since and i think i miss him
Get some new Spec's and join the lonely hearts club then!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????[/p][/quote]Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know![/p][/quote]I understand that but as he has been found out to talk proper shat he hasnt posted since and i think i miss him[/p][/quote]Get some new Spec's and join the lonely hearts club then!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

joey butler says...

Not good results elsewhere tonight.

Bournemouth won and go top.

Doncaster drew.

Sheff Utd, Brentford and Yeovil all won.

Those points dropped by Town on Saturday look very expensive now.

On a lighter note, Pack and Benson scored for Cheltenham.
Not good results elsewhere tonight. Bournemouth won and go top. Doncaster drew. Sheff Utd, Brentford and Yeovil all won. Those points dropped by Town on Saturday look very expensive now. On a lighter note, Pack and Benson scored for Cheltenham. joey butler
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9:48pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

Bloody hell that league table is starting to look rather tight now and the stuffy shats from the blue rinse holiday destination managed to squeeze another win they will be on here soon gloating as theyre now sittiing top of the tree feckers
Bloody hell that league table is starting to look rather tight now and the stuffy shats from the blue rinse holiday destination managed to squeeze another win they will be on here soon gloating as theyre now sittiing top of the tree feckers spectacles testicals wallet watch
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9:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

the don69 wrote:
spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
joey butler wrote:
spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????
Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know!
I understand that but as he has been found out to talk proper shat he hasnt posted since and i think i miss him
Get some new Spec's and join the lonely hearts club then!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don tried that joined them all and pulled out all the stops to find him and he wont reply.
Still i have STFC and my friends on here to pull me through my turmoil.....
Havent I?
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being seved????[/p][/quote]Not quite sure Specs, but I am sure Guv and his mates will know![/p][/quote]I understand that but as he has been found out to talk proper shat he hasnt posted since and i think i miss him[/p][/quote]Get some new Spec's and join the lonely hearts club then!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Don tried that joined them all and pulled out all the stops to find him and he wont reply. Still i have STFC and my friends on here to pull me through my turmoil..... Havent I? spectacles testicals wallet watch
  • Score: 0

9:56pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Couchy125 says...

We are top of the league. Say we are top of the league. Up the cherries.
We are top of the league. Say we are top of the league. Up the cherries. Couchy125
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9:58pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the don69 says...

That Rusky must be putting in a packet at Bormuff,cause with their gates and wage bill,they must losing a serious amount of wonga each week!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Rusky must be putting in a packet at Bormuff,cause with their gates and wage bill,they must losing a serious amount of wonga each week!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
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9:59pm Tue 12 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

Couchy125 wrote:
We are top of the league. Say we are top of the league. Up the cherries.
Doubt it you gaybar loiterer, up the ar5e more like now pi55 off to your rest home your chocolate is ready and your nurse wants to put your clean pad on
[quote][p][bold]Couchy125[/bold] wrote: We are top of the league. Say we are top of the league. Up the cherries.[/p][/quote]Doubt it you gaybar loiterer, up the ar5e more like now pi55 off to your rest home your chocolate is ready and your nurse wants to put your clean pad on spectacles testicals wallet watch
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10:00pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SimonPrice351 says...

Why are things never straight forward with us?

I can't see Jed and co lasting too long - and I doubt that Sir Cecil Duckworth is getting involved as the money man.

A friend of mine who works at Sixways told me that all Sir Cecil cares about is Worcester RFC, and that given his age he is stepping down in a few years once they have a new younger owner.

Sir Cecil is over 70 years of age - too old to get properly involved with a club. An investor aged between 35-50 is what we need (maybe even younger) and for us to have sustainability.
Why are things never straight forward with us? I can't see Jed and co lasting too long - and I doubt that Sir Cecil Duckworth is getting involved as the money man. A friend of mine who works at Sixways told me that all Sir Cecil cares about is Worcester RFC, and that given his age he is stepping down in a few years once they have a new younger owner. Sir Cecil is over 70 years of age - too old to get properly involved with a club. An investor aged between 35-50 is what we need (maybe even younger) and for us to have sustainability. SimonPrice351
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10:05pm Tue 12 Feb 13

big_afcb_fan says...

we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............
.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;) big_afcb_fan
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10:08pm Tue 12 Feb 13

igiwigi says...

Ritchie and Bournemoth are running away with the league !!!!!
Ritchie and Bournemoth are running away with the league !!!!! igiwigi
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10:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the don69 says...

Just shows you chaps!Yeovil 3,500 gates,very low wage and having a great season!you can still do it without big money,Johnson failed at the Cobblers but doing the business at Yeovil,by the way looks like Mark Robbins got the Udders job,so Paolo won't be going there!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just shows you chaps!Yeovil 3,500 gates,very low wage and having a great season!you can still do it without big money,Johnson failed at the Cobblers but doing the business at Yeovil,by the way looks like Mark Robbins got the Udders job,so Paolo won't be going there!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
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10:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
mallorca wrote:
new investors small time???
again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club
What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady
Ummm Mallorca i feel its you who doesnt live in the real world. People have looked up the new consortium and rightly so. Who are they, what is their back ground, and ultimately how much lolly do they have?
All this is relevant info for how we may fare for the rest of the season and beyond IE are we serious about promotion and a successfull shot in the championship. As for people should be an expat to see the real world YOU chose that route in life, just like i chose my profession, and believe me when you have seen the sights i have (and im not talking warm sangria or pi55ed up tourists) then you have seen the real world.
Dont ever assume you have it harder than everyone else
I thought that was the funniest post on here all day. (Mallorca I mean)
[quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady[/p][/quote]Ummm Mallorca i feel its you who doesnt live in the real world. People have looked up the new consortium and rightly so. Who are they, what is their back ground, and ultimately how much lolly do they have? All this is relevant info for how we may fare for the rest of the season and beyond IE are we serious about promotion and a successfull shot in the championship. As for people should be an expat to see the real world YOU chose that route in life, just like i chose my profession, and believe me when you have seen the sights i have (and im not talking warm sangria or pi55ed up tourists) then you have seen the real world. Dont ever assume you have it harder than everyone else[/p][/quote]I thought that was the funniest post on here all day. (Mallorca I mean) RamsburyRed
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10:13pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the don69 says...

igiwigi wrote:
Ritchie and Bournemoth are running away with the league !!!!!
Yeah by one point,long'long way to go yet igiwigi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]igiwigi[/bold] wrote: Ritchie and Bournemoth are running away with the league !!!!![/p][/quote]Yeah by one point,long'long way to go yet igiwigi!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! the don69
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10:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

EastleazeRed says...

joey butler wrote:
Not good results elsewhere tonight.

Bournemouth won and go top.

Doncaster drew.

Sheff Utd, Brentford and Yeovil all won.

Those points dropped by Town on Saturday look very expensive now.

On a lighter note, Pack and Benson scored for Cheltenham.
Sam moreshead tweeting Cheltenham now want yo keep pack , this week just keeps getting better :-(
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Not good results elsewhere tonight. Bournemouth won and go top. Doncaster drew. Sheff Utd, Brentford and Yeovil all won. Those points dropped by Town on Saturday look very expensive now. On a lighter note, Pack and Benson scored for Cheltenham.[/p][/quote]Sam moreshead tweeting Cheltenham now want yo keep pack , this week just keeps getting better :-( EastleazeRed
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10:24pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

I'd like to have seen different results tonight but can't say I'm that bothered about it. There's still a third of the season to go. If we're good enough, we'll go up. If we're not, we won't. It's in our own hands. Win all our games and we win the title. Unlikely? Yes, but it shows we're still in a strong position.
I'd like to have seen different results tonight but can't say I'm that bothered about it. There's still a third of the season to go. If we're good enough, we'll go up. If we're not, we won't. It's in our own hands. Win all our games and we win the title. Unlikely? Yes, but it shows we're still in a strong position. Oi Den!
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10:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Personally although results didn't go exactly in our favour, we have all now played the same games (apart from the muff) and we are bang in there.

Irrelevent of what is happening with us off the field this league is going to be tight right down to the wire.

Bournemouth may have gained ground tonight, but that will change as it will week in, week out.

Lets not forget, Walsall and orient aren't that far away.

Exciting stuff...........
Personally although results didn't go exactly in our favour, we have all now played the same games (apart from the muff) and we are bang in there. Irrelevent of what is happening with us off the field this league is going to be tight right down to the wire. Bournemouth may have gained ground tonight, but that will change as it will week in, week out. Lets not forget, Walsall and orient aren't that far away. Exciting stuff........... LydiardRED67
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10:29pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I'd like to have seen different results tonight but can't say I'm that bothered about it. There's still a third of the season to go. If we're good enough, we'll go up. If we're not, we won't. It's in our own hands. Win all our games and we win the title. Unlikely? Yes, but it shows we're still in a strong position.
True, but it's not just a question of if we're good enough. It's if we're motivated, organised and disciplined, and whether there are enough of us (players). We might find out the prospects on these fronts over the next few days.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I'd like to have seen different results tonight but can't say I'm that bothered about it. There's still a third of the season to go. If we're good enough, we'll go up. If we're not, we won't. It's in our own hands. Win all our games and we win the title. Unlikely? Yes, but it shows we're still in a strong position.[/p][/quote]True, but it's not just a question of if we're good enough. It's if we're motivated, organised and disciplined, and whether there are enough of us (players). We might find out the prospects on these fronts over the next few days. RamsburyRed
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10:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............

.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land.
Come on back to your room and no more from you.
[quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land. Come on back to your room and no more from you. Chish and Fips
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10:49pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

RamsburyRed wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
I'd like to have seen different results tonight but can't say I'm that bothered about it. There's still a third of the season to go. If we're good enough, we'll go up. If we're not, we won't. It's in our own hands. Win all our games and we win the title. Unlikely? Yes, but it shows we're still in a strong position.
True, but it's not just a question of if we're good enough. It's if we're motivated, organised and disciplined, and whether there are enough of us (players). We might find out the prospects on these fronts over the next few days.
Agree - but motivated, organised, disciplined, number of available players etc are always part of the "good enough" package. If those are all going to be specific concerns for us, our fate isn't going to depend much on other teams' results. The final league table won't lie - it'll show who's been good enough over 46 games.
.
Sorry, too much rambling from me again. Multitasker, multimeter or whatever his name is will be after me!
[quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I'd like to have seen different results tonight but can't say I'm that bothered about it. There's still a third of the season to go. If we're good enough, we'll go up. If we're not, we won't. It's in our own hands. Win all our games and we win the title. Unlikely? Yes, but it shows we're still in a strong position.[/p][/quote]True, but it's not just a question of if we're good enough. It's if we're motivated, organised and disciplined, and whether there are enough of us (players). We might find out the prospects on these fronts over the next few days.[/p][/quote]Agree - but motivated, organised, disciplined, number of available players etc are always part of the "good enough" package. If those are all going to be specific concerns for us, our fate isn't going to depend much on other teams' results. The final league table won't lie - it'll show who's been good enough over 46 games. . Sorry, too much rambling from me again. Multitasker, multimeter or whatever his name is will be after me! Oi Den!
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11:03pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Cookie43 says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............


.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land.
Come on back to your room and no more from you.
You are so predictable and a very very sad individual.
why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land. Come on back to your room and no more from you.[/p][/quote]You are so predictable and a very very sad individual. why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club Cookie43
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11:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

big_afcb_fan says...

Cookie43 wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............



.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land.
Come on back to your room and no more from you.
You are so predictable and a very very sad individual.
why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club
sour grapes me thinks! don't worry cookie43 we will send you a post card from the NPC.
[quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land. Come on back to your room and no more from you.[/p][/quote]You are so predictable and a very very sad individual. why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club[/p][/quote]sour grapes me thinks! don't worry cookie43 we will send you a post card from the NPC. big_afcb_fan
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11:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

joey butler says...

Cookie43 wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............



.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land.
Come on back to your room and no more from you.
You are so predictable and a very very sad individual.
why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club
A bit harsh on Chish and Fips Cookie, if I may say so.

He is a regular poster on here!!
[quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land. Come on back to your room and no more from you.[/p][/quote]You are so predictable and a very very sad individual. why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club[/p][/quote]A bit harsh on Chish and Fips Cookie, if I may say so. He is a regular poster on here!! joey butler
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12:15am Wed 13 Feb 13

red white says...

big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............

.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
You won't go up,dreadful club,luck off,you go to bed now.
[quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]You won't go up,dreadful club,luck off,you go to bed now. red white
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6:16am Wed 13 Feb 13

Cookie43 says...

joey butler wrote:
Cookie43 wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............




.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land.
Come on back to your room and no more from you.
You are so predictable and a very very sad individual.
why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club
A bit harsh on Chish and Fips Cookie, if I may say so.

He is a regular poster on here!!
Was not aimed at Chish joey aimed at the sad bornmuff tw.t who is obsessed with Swindon!!
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land. Come on back to your room and no more from you.[/p][/quote]You are so predictable and a very very sad individual. why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club[/p][/quote]A bit harsh on Chish and Fips Cookie, if I may say so. He is a regular poster on here!![/p][/quote]Was not aimed at Chish joey aimed at the sad bornmuff tw.t who is obsessed with Swindon!! Cookie43
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7:13am Wed 13 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

Cookie43 wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Cookie43 wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
big_afcb_fan wrote:
we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league..............





.haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)
Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land.
Come on back to your room and no more from you.
You are so predictable and a very very sad individual.
why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club
A bit harsh on Chish and Fips Cookie, if I may say so.

He is a regular poster on here!!
Was not aimed at Chish joey aimed at the sad bornmuff tw.t who is obsessed with Swindon!!
No prob Cookie - I didn't see it that way I think JB was jesting anyway.. ....
He's such a wag isn't he :o)
[quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]big_afcb_fan[/bold] wrote: we're afc bournemouth we're top of the league.............. .haha enjoy your play off battle with yeovil. ;)[/p][/quote]Funny what a one point lead and playing a game more than the others can do to the small minded Blue Rinse brigade down in Cocoon Land. Come on back to your room and no more from you.[/p][/quote]You are so predictable and a very very sad individual. why are you so obsessed with swindon town whats wrong with you, do you honestly think we at Swindon give a flying F.ck about your tin pot little club by the sea. you are nothing to us we do not class you as a derby! So why are you so obsessed with us. Go away and play on the sand you sad little man your club has no history nothing. No one gives a toss about your little club[/p][/quote]A bit harsh on Chish and Fips Cookie, if I may say so. He is a regular poster on here!![/p][/quote]Was not aimed at Chish joey aimed at the sad bornmuff tw.t who is obsessed with Swindon!![/p][/quote]No prob Cookie - I didn't see it that way I think JB was jesting anyway.. .... He's such a wag isn't he :o) Chish and Fips
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12:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13

candid friend says...

The same depressing story. A group of "saviours" appears and at first the Club is doing well.
Quietly, in the background, the losses are piling up.
At this point in the past he Club have lobbieb naive Labour Leaders to transfer the freehold of the ground, to give the club some equity backing.
A previous Labour Leader was taken in by this. The responsible officers had to antagonise him, by pointing out that:-
(a)Councils' are not allowed to give away the ratepayers' property(b) As soon as these smooth talkers got hold of the ground it would be mortgaged, and the cash would end up elsewhere.
The same depressing story. A group of "saviours" appears and at first the Club is doing well. Quietly, in the background, the losses are piling up. At this point in the past he Club have lobbieb naive Labour Leaders to transfer the freehold of the ground, to give the club some equity backing. A previous Labour Leader was taken in by this. The responsible officers had to antagonise him, by pointing out that:- (a)Councils' are not allowed to give away the ratepayers' property(b) As soon as these smooth talkers got hold of the ground it would be mortgaged, and the cash would end up elsewhere. candid friend
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1:42pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Swindon1984 says...

spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
mallorca wrote: new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady
Ummm Mallorca i feel its you who doesnt live in the real world. People have looked up the new consortium and rightly so. Who are they, what is their back ground, and ultimately how much lolly do they have? All this is relevant info for how we may fare for the rest of the season and beyond IE are we serious about promotion and a successfull shot in the championship. As for people should be an expat to see the real world YOU chose that route in life, just like i chose my profession, and believe me when you have seen the sights i have (and im not talking warm sangria or pi55ed up tourists) then you have seen the real world. Dont ever assume you have it harder than everyone else
Here here.
[quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: new investors small time??? again wake up smell the coffee we are fortunate someone wants to buy the club What alternitves do we have,god these posters,if this all goes pear shape then it is a possible admin with mega points deduction,so why all this crap on here???? oh i searched the webmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you guys do not live in a real world be an expat over here then you will know what real life is about so no more BS please even from the CG Tea Lady[/p][/quote]Ummm Mallorca i feel its you who doesnt live in the real world. People have looked up the new consortium and rightly so. Who are they, what is their back ground, and ultimately how much lolly do they have? All this is relevant info for how we may fare for the rest of the season and beyond IE are we serious about promotion and a successfull shot in the championship. As for people should be an expat to see the real world YOU chose that route in life, just like i chose my profession, and believe me when you have seen the sights i have (and im not talking warm sangria or pi55ed up tourists) then you have seen the real world. Dont ever assume you have it harder than everyone else[/p][/quote]Here here. Swindon1984
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2:25pm Wed 13 Feb 13

NewburyRobin says...

Andy Warren tweeted that the consortium were due to meet the FL about 13.30.

Like the rest of the genuine STFC posters it would be great if I lifted my laptop lid at 16.00 & saw good breaking news.

I am not assuming the consortium our going to be our saviors, however I am courteous enough to wait until I hear directly from them & of their plans.

At this present moment in time I would just be glad to have stability, get the loan players in & push on with our great run of form towards The Championship.
Andy Warren tweeted that the consortium were due to meet the FL about 13.30. Like the rest of the genuine STFC posters it would be great if I lifted my laptop lid at 16.00 & saw good breaking news. I am not assuming the consortium our going to be our saviors, however I am courteous enough to wait until I hear directly from them & of their plans. At this present moment in time I would just be glad to have stability, get the loan players in & push on with our great run of form towards The Championship. NewburyRobin
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10:12pm Wed 13 Feb 13

BillyLucas4me says...

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...
2:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being served????”

Tesco frozen readymeals Sell Brains faggots in the freezer section in packs of two, four and/or six .
If you meant at football STFC you will want a microwave from somewhere!
spectacles testicals wallet watch says... 2:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13 Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being served????” Tesco frozen readymeals Sell Brains faggots in the freezer section in packs of two, four and/or six . If you meant at football STFC you will want a microwave from somewhere! BillyLucas4me
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11:12pm Wed 13 Feb 13

joey butler says...

BillyLucas4me wrote:
spectacles testicals wallet watch says...
2:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Joey Butler,
Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being served????”

Tesco frozen readymeals Sell Brains faggots in the freezer section in packs of two, four and/or six .
If you meant at football STFC you will want a microwave from somewhere!
Billy L,

I have longstanding family connections in Malmesbury.

Would you know Sean R by any chance please?
[quote][p][bold]BillyLucas4me[/bold] wrote: spectacles testicals wallet watch says... 2:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13 Joey Butler, Faggots off the menu at Coate can you tell me where they are still being served????” Tesco frozen readymeals Sell Brains faggots in the freezer section in packs of two, four and/or six . If you meant at football STFC you will want a microwave from somewhere![/p][/quote]Billy L, I have longstanding family connections in Malmesbury. Would you know Sean R by any chance please? joey butler
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10:09pm Sun 17 Feb 13

RICHARDPIKE says...

Get Palo out the racist man
Get Palo out the racist man RICHARDPIKE
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