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Robins rocked by pay dispute

Swindon Advertiser: Captain Hans Andersen Captain Hans Andersen

SWINDON’S home match with Belle Vue last night was marred by a number of the Robins riders making a stand to highlight the fact they are owed significant amounts of money by the Blunsdon club.

Captain Hans Andersen, Troy Batchelor, Peter Kildemand and Edward Kennett each only had one bike in the pits for the 48-42 defeat to the Aces, highlighting the fact they are owed a combined sum believed to be around £50,000 which dates back eight weeks.

The riders and management met before the meeting to discuss the issue, where they were reassured the payments would be made as soon as possible.

Club sponsors Excalibur and Pebley Beach have both put extra money in to help cover the shortfall, which Robins co-owner Gary Patchett says is in no small part caused by the late payment of the latest slice of television money from Sky Sports which is worth more than £20,000.

Patchett confirmed to the Advertiser the club are behind on the payments to their riders, but added much of the problem was due to the late payment of the Sky television money as well as the club’s success on the track.

“Speedway is an expensive sport, and the more successful you are the more expensive it is, and we are doing all we can to finish top of the table so it’s an expensive club to run at the moment and it’s proving hard to balance the books,” he said.

“The problem isn’t helped by the fact we budget and predict our cash flow for incoming payments around our television money which is due on specific dates, and that’s overdue at the moment and we’ve been told not to expect it until August 30.

“Every club is in that position in that respect, and we told the riders that and have kept them informed, and with those funds in hand the liability to our riders would be 50 per cent less than it is. If that money had been with us now the conversation we had with the riders before the meeting would have been very different.

“We told them the situation, and we hope they have taken that on board. We’re grateful we’ve had some fantastic sponsors in Excalibur and Pebley Beach who have helped us through the issue we have at the moment.”

The Advertiser spoke to BSPA vice chairman Jon Cook last night, who confirmed the latest instalment of Sky money remains outstanding to every club in the league.

Robins captain Hans Andersen was disappointed to have to make the stand, but insisted it was necessary to highlight to the club’s fans the situation they find themselves in.

Speaking on behalf of the team, he said: “The riders only had one bike in the pits, not as a protest but to show the situation we are in.

“Sometimes we get criticised for having a bad meeting, but sometimes it’s due to some of us not being paid. Some of the riders can’t afford new clutch plates because they’re skint, and can’t service engines when they want to because they are not being paid.

“We hope things will be a lot better by next week as we have been promised, and we will all carry on putting in our best for Swindon.”

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6:38am Fri 23 Aug 13

deano wilson says...

So the fans wasted their money last night not sure if i will be going again this season.i must say kyle had a good match though.
So the fans wasted their money last night not sure if i will be going again this season.i must say kyle had a good match though. deano wilson
  • Score: 0

6:47am Fri 23 Aug 13

swindonspur says...

Dont be fooled that this has only started 8 weeks ago. Been going on 3/4 years. A certain club legend was owed around 20k when he retired. Finally the adver have reported this despite it going on for years. Maybe we will get the real reason Hans and Killer missed meetings this year now.
Dont be fooled that this has only started 8 weeks ago. Been going on 3/4 years. A certain club legend was owed around 20k when he retired. Finally the adver have reported this despite it going on for years. Maybe we will get the real reason Hans and Killer missed meetings this year now. swindonspur
  • Score: 5

8:16am Fri 23 Aug 13

bobbinalong says...

Why were the fans not told about this dispute before the meeting? It was obvious from Heat 1 that something was amiss. We paid good money to watch riders coast around the track with the worst offender being our No1 and captain Hans. They are proffessional sportsman and have let the fans down badly.. Making their point on the track is not the right way to go about this, they have a duty to the paying public to put in 100% effort. The whole Speedway situations 'stinks' and the supporters are always at the bottom of the pile, and then the Management complain about lack of attendances - its no wonder people have stopped going! I exclude Birks from my comments about coasting around the track as he does this all the time - when are they going to replace him, a total liability which is highlighted when a rider gets withdrawn and we have to use a reserve.

Was Rosco also on strike last night - why did he give Birks 4 rides last night when he could have used Howarth in heat 11.
Why were the fans not told about this dispute before the meeting? It was obvious from Heat 1 that something was amiss. We paid good money to watch riders coast around the track with the worst offender being our No1 and captain Hans. They are proffessional sportsman and have let the fans down badly.. Making their point on the track is not the right way to go about this, they have a duty to the paying public to put in 100% effort. The whole Speedway situations 'stinks' and the supporters are always at the bottom of the pile, and then the Management complain about lack of attendances - its no wonder people have stopped going! I exclude Birks from my comments about coasting around the track as he does this all the time - when are they going to replace him, a total liability which is highlighted when a rider gets withdrawn and we have to use a reserve. Was Rosco also on strike last night - why did he give Birks 4 rides last night when he could have used Howarth in heat 11. bobbinalong
  • Score: -5

8:16am Fri 23 Aug 13

bobbinalong says...

Why were the fans not told about this dispute before the meeting? It was obvious from Heat 1 that something was amiss. We paid good money to watch riders coast around the track with the worst offender being our No1 and captain Hans. They are proffessional sportsman and have let the fans down badly.. Making their point on the track is not the right way to go about this, they have a duty to the paying public to put in 100% effort. The whole Speedway situations 'stinks' and the supporters are always at the bottom of the pile, and then the Management complain about lack of attendances - its no wonder people have stopped going! I exclude Birks from my comments about coasting around the track as he does this all the time - when are they going to replace him, a total liability which is highlighted when a rider gets withdrawn and we have to use a reserve.

Was Rosco also on strike last night - why did he give Birks 4 rides last night when he could have used Howarth in heat 11.
Why were the fans not told about this dispute before the meeting? It was obvious from Heat 1 that something was amiss. We paid good money to watch riders coast around the track with the worst offender being our No1 and captain Hans. They are proffessional sportsman and have let the fans down badly.. Making their point on the track is not the right way to go about this, they have a duty to the paying public to put in 100% effort. The whole Speedway situations 'stinks' and the supporters are always at the bottom of the pile, and then the Management complain about lack of attendances - its no wonder people have stopped going! I exclude Birks from my comments about coasting around the track as he does this all the time - when are they going to replace him, a total liability which is highlighted when a rider gets withdrawn and we have to use a reserve. Was Rosco also on strike last night - why did he give Birks 4 rides last night when he could have used Howarth in heat 11. bobbinalong
  • Score: -3

8:21am Fri 23 Aug 13

Bristols says...

There has been rumours about this for a long time, at last we have the truth. Where is the entrance money going? To expect riders to risk life and limb to entertain us for nothing is not on. There was a lot of speculation on the terraces last night. As a fan, I apologise to the Boys for this disgraceful treatment, surprised they turned up at all !!!! Will think twice about buying a season ticket next year!!!!! Now we really are the laughing stock.
There has been rumours about this for a long time, at last we have the truth. Where is the entrance money going? To expect riders to risk life and limb to entertain us for nothing is not on. There was a lot of speculation on the terraces last night. As a fan, I apologise to the Boys for this disgraceful treatment, surprised they turned up at all !!!! Will think twice about buying a season ticket next year!!!!! Now we really are the laughing stock. Bristols
  • Score: 5

8:27am Fri 23 Aug 13

swindonspur says...

Bristols wrote:
There has been rumours about this for a long time, at last we have the truth. Where is the entrance money going? To expect riders to risk life and limb to entertain us for nothing is not on. There was a lot of speculation on the terraces last night. As a fan, I apologise to the Boys for this disgraceful treatment, surprised they turned up at all !!!! Will think twice about buying a season ticket next year!!!!! Now we really are the laughing stock.
Well said. Finally someone who speaks some sense. A little less blame on the riders and more on the promotion IMO.

Its been going on for years. Where is our season ticket cash and record sponsorship money going. I will also think twice about renewing and i've been a season ticket holder for years.
[quote][p][bold]Bristols[/bold] wrote: There has been rumours about this for a long time, at last we have the truth. Where is the entrance money going? To expect riders to risk life and limb to entertain us for nothing is not on. There was a lot of speculation on the terraces last night. As a fan, I apologise to the Boys for this disgraceful treatment, surprised they turned up at all !!!! Will think twice about buying a season ticket next year!!!!! Now we really are the laughing stock.[/p][/quote]Well said. Finally someone who speaks some sense. A little less blame on the riders and more on the promotion IMO. Its been going on for years. Where is our season ticket cash and record sponsorship money going. I will also think twice about renewing and i've been a season ticket holder for years. swindonspur
  • Score: 4

8:46am Fri 23 Aug 13

Arkle1 says...

This needs sorting quickly otherwise I and many more I am sure of the Blunsdon faithful will soon be withdrawing our services! It has been pretty obvious to all of us that Hans in particular, since returning from his ban, has been riding something pretty slow and is not the same rider and it has cost us.

Please let's get this sorted Rosco and Gary so that we can get behind the team for the play-off's. COYR!!
This needs sorting quickly otherwise I and many more I am sure of the Blunsdon faithful will soon be withdrawing our services! It has been pretty obvious to all of us that Hans in particular, since returning from his ban, has been riding something pretty slow and is not the same rider and it has cost us. Please let's get this sorted Rosco and Gary so that we can get behind the team for the play-off's. COYR!! Arkle1
  • Score: 4

8:54am Fri 23 Aug 13

ging999 says...

Just get Gary to start up a new company that moves mobile phones around Europe. I hear there's a lot of money to be made in that sort of business.
Just get Gary to start up a new company that moves mobile phones around Europe. I hear there's a lot of money to be made in that sort of business. ging999
  • Score: -2

9:43am Fri 23 Aug 13

MEB123 says...

I hear that a certain withdrawal wasn't actually because of medical advice last night, rather looking for an excuse to stop riding, and that someone else didn't want to leave a motorway services.

I've also seen a Birmingham rider complaining about 'second chances', which someone responded to by asking if it was to do with wages. This response was quickly deleted, possibly to prevent anyone from noticing the problems. Though it may be worth pointing out that a few riders, of different clubs, have favourited the Brummies' tweet.

And have we just found out why Freddie Lindgren chose to go to Russia, rather than riding for Wolverhampton? It's become pretty obvious why riders are so eager to ride in other countries and why 3 of Swindon's riders are trying for a grand prix place.

I would like to know why it's been reported that 8 weeks of wages haven't been paid, when a track worker says it's almost 4 months. Am I right to assume that's to make it look, for lack of a different word, better?
I hear that a certain withdrawal wasn't actually because of medical advice last night, rather looking for an excuse to stop riding, and that someone else didn't want to leave a motorway services. I've also seen a Birmingham rider complaining about 'second chances', which someone responded to by asking if it was to do with wages. This response was quickly deleted, possibly to prevent anyone from noticing the problems. Though it may be worth pointing out that a few riders, of different clubs, have favourited the Brummies' tweet. And have we just found out why Freddie Lindgren chose to go to Russia, rather than riding for Wolverhampton? It's become pretty obvious why riders are so eager to ride in other countries and why 3 of Swindon's riders are trying for a grand prix place. I would like to know why it's been reported that 8 weeks of wages haven't been paid, when a track worker says it's almost 4 months. Am I right to assume that's to make it look, for lack of a different word, better? MEB123
  • Score: 3

10:25am Fri 23 Aug 13

MIKEWILLMORE says...

The blame culture strikes again. We have lost at home to the bottom of the table so who can we blame. I saw two bikes in the pits for at least two of the named riders.
The blame culture strikes again. We have lost at home to the bottom of the table so who can we blame. I saw two bikes in the pits for at least two of the named riders. MIKEWILLMORE
  • Score: -5

10:47am Fri 23 Aug 13

tylers8 says...

Supposed to be going to Poole on Monday !
If I go what effort will we witness from the riders owed all this money ?
Another stroll around the track by Hans ? Cant say I blame him..
But then why bother to turn up ? This situation will ruin our chances of retaining the title.
Yet more foot shooting going on in the Speedway world
SAD :(
Supposed to be going to Poole on Monday ! If I go what effort will we witness from the riders owed all this money ? Another stroll around the track by Hans ? Cant say I blame him.. But then why bother to turn up ? This situation will ruin our chances of retaining the title. Yet more foot shooting going on in the Speedway world SAD :( tylers8
  • Score: 0

11:58am Fri 23 Aug 13

KeyboardWarri0r says...

Sky wont be around next year. The elite league is finished. I just stream the Polish and Sweedish leagues.
Sky wont be around next year. The elite league is finished. I just stream the Polish and Sweedish leagues. KeyboardWarri0r
  • Score: -2

12:35pm Fri 23 Aug 13

deano wilson says...

The whole british speedway is a shambles i woukdnt turn up to my work place if i wasnt paid after a week let alone any longer but i dont agree with riders being there and just riding around making a statement pulling wheelies at the back etc rather them not be there at all
The whole british speedway is a shambles i woukdnt turn up to my work place if i wasnt paid after a week let alone any longer but i dont agree with riders being there and just riding around making a statement pulling wheelies at the back etc rather them not be there at all deano wilson
  • Score: -2

12:40pm Fri 23 Aug 13

deano wilson says...

The whole british speedway is a shambles i woukdnt turn up to my work place if i wasnt paid after a week let alone any longer but i dont agree with riders being there and just riding around making a statement pulling wheelies at the back etc rather them not be there at all
The whole british speedway is a shambles i woukdnt turn up to my work place if i wasnt paid after a week let alone any longer but i dont agree with riders being there and just riding around making a statement pulling wheelies at the back etc rather them not be there at all deano wilson
  • Score: -2

2:12pm Fri 23 Aug 13

mikeinwanborough says...

Some interesting comments. It does not say the riders weren't trying, it says 4 of them turned up with only one bike. I only saw one rider (our number 1) perform below par, and he's been doing that for weeks now. Last week it was because he was tired after riding so many meetings all over Europe, now it's about not being paid. Why would anyone risk their necks for nothing? They don't owe it to the fans, the management owe it to the fans to be honest. How have we got into this state? It's not just about the SKY money, as there is another £30k shortfall. Boycotting meetings isn't going to help matters; presumably the low attendances are already contributing to the problem? The management need to be honest and say to the public 'If attendances do not reach a certain level, then Elite League speedway is no longer viable here (again)'. Similar rumours have been circulating about Birmingham, and Lakeside have announced that if they miss the play offs then tonight's meeting is their last home meeting of the season. Poole seem to have a successful model; what can we learn from them? Let's have a clear and agreed statement from all parties before next week's two meetings against Poole, so that all fans can make an informed decision before parting with their cash.
Some interesting comments. It does not say the riders weren't trying, it says 4 of them turned up with only one bike. I only saw one rider (our number 1) perform below par, and he's been doing that for weeks now. Last week it was because he was tired after riding so many meetings all over Europe, now it's about not being paid. Why would anyone risk their necks for nothing? They don't owe it to the fans, the management owe it to the fans to be honest. How have we got into this state? It's not just about the SKY money, as there is another £30k shortfall. Boycotting meetings isn't going to help matters; presumably the low attendances are already contributing to the problem? The management need to be honest and say to the public 'If attendances do not reach a certain level, then Elite League speedway is no longer viable here (again)'. Similar rumours have been circulating about Birmingham, and Lakeside have announced that if they miss the play offs then tonight's meeting is their last home meeting of the season. Poole seem to have a successful model; what can we learn from them? Let's have a clear and agreed statement from all parties before next week's two meetings against Poole, so that all fans can make an informed decision before parting with their cash. mikeinwanborough
  • Score: 4

2:52pm Fri 23 Aug 13

Bristols says...

I would like to know why the fans appear to have stayed away this season after winning the league , would have thought the crowds would be much larger than they are and the weather has been good in general!!
I would like to know why the fans appear to have stayed away this season after winning the league , would have thought the crowds would be much larger than they are and the weather has been good in general!! Bristols
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Fri 23 Aug 13

oldlegtrailer says...

bobbinalong wrote:
Why were the fans not told about this dispute before the meeting? It was obvious from Heat 1 that something was amiss. We paid good money to watch riders coast around the track with the worst offender being our No1 and captain Hans. They are proffessional sportsman and have let the fans down badly.. Making their point on the track is not the right way to go about this, they have a duty to the paying public to put in 100% effort. The whole Speedway situations 'stinks' and the supporters are always at the bottom of the pile, and then the Management complain about lack of attendances - its no wonder people have stopped going! I exclude Birks from my comments about coasting around the track as he does this all the time - when are they going to replace him, a total liability which is highlighted when a rider gets withdrawn and we have to use a reserve.

Was Rosco also on strike last night - why did he give Birks 4 rides last night when he could have used Howarth in heat 11.
Well said Bobbin you are dead right and the people around me who knew about this were just peed off with the riders attitude - Rosco must have been asleep in Heat 11 - second time he's done this this season
[quote][p][bold]bobbinalong[/bold] wrote: Why were the fans not told about this dispute before the meeting? It was obvious from Heat 1 that something was amiss. We paid good money to watch riders coast around the track with the worst offender being our No1 and captain Hans. They are proffessional sportsman and have let the fans down badly.. Making their point on the track is not the right way to go about this, they have a duty to the paying public to put in 100% effort. The whole Speedway situations 'stinks' and the supporters are always at the bottom of the pile, and then the Management complain about lack of attendances - its no wonder people have stopped going! I exclude Birks from my comments about coasting around the track as he does this all the time - when are they going to replace him, a total liability which is highlighted when a rider gets withdrawn and we have to use a reserve. Was Rosco also on strike last night - why did he give Birks 4 rides last night when he could have used Howarth in heat 11.[/p][/quote]Well said Bobbin you are dead right and the people around me who knew about this were just peed off with the riders attitude - Rosco must have been asleep in Heat 11 - second time he's done this this season oldlegtrailer
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Fri 23 Aug 13

oldlegtrailer says...

Having been round most of the tracks (and seen it on Sky) - Swindon enjoys a consistently decent crop of loyal supporters. If this promotion cannot make Swindon pay then no one will make it in Speedway. If the riders were not paid up until last night then where did the gate money go last night and the weeks before plus the money from the sponsors, race sponsors etc forgetting Skys £30k.

Something does not seem to add up here. Perhaps the fans could be given an in site into the accounts?
Having been round most of the tracks (and seen it on Sky) - Swindon enjoys a consistently decent crop of loyal supporters. If this promotion cannot make Swindon pay then no one will make it in Speedway. If the riders were not paid up until last night then where did the gate money go last night and the weeks before plus the money from the sponsors, race sponsors etc forgetting Skys £30k. Something does not seem to add up here. Perhaps the fans could be given an in site into the accounts? oldlegtrailer
  • Score: 2

3:00pm Fri 23 Aug 13

oldlegtrailer says...

There is rumour going round now that Patchett has quit anyone else heard it?
There is rumour going round now that Patchett has quit anyone else heard it? oldlegtrailer
  • Score: 1

3:09pm Fri 23 Aug 13

oldlegtrailer says...

Just had a text " Please could you lend me a tenner Legtrailer? Stuck at services with no money for petrol. luv Eddie"
Just had a text " Please could you lend me a tenner Legtrailer? Stuck at services with no money for petrol. luv Eddie" oldlegtrailer
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Fri 23 Aug 13

Absolutely third rate says...

Haven't heard the rumour but it wouldn't surprise me - nothing surprises me in speedway any more. I agree with Mike in Wanborough when he says it is vital that this is cleared up before the next meeting on Monday.
I always thought Swindon were one of the better run speedway clubs; if they are in financial trouble I fear for the future of the Elite League.
I would love to see the accounts!
Haven't heard the rumour but it wouldn't surprise me - nothing surprises me in speedway any more. I agree with Mike in Wanborough when he says it is vital that this is cleared up before the next meeting on Monday. I always thought Swindon were one of the better run speedway clubs; if they are in financial trouble I fear for the future of the Elite League. I would love to see the accounts! Absolutely third rate
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Fri 23 Aug 13

fatman says...

Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway
Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway fatman
  • Score: -2

7:35pm Fri 23 Aug 13

Di kanny oh says...

fatman wrote:
Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway
Sorry but Hans Anderson has been brilliant this season and it seems only dipped form is a result of wages. If you remember when Hans chose to ride for his Danish club over us a while back he openly said "it will all come out in the end when questioned about his loyalty and if he is owed 10k or more then no wonder he has been subdued. How exactly would you be riding then if you were in his shoes. As for the two reserves Birks is a future talent and WILL get better but how can you include Howarth in your comments as being a Joke this lad has been simply fantastic for the last few meetings and has scored double figures in three of his ten matches a 9, two 6's and a 5 with a couple smaller scores hardly a joke I would say. he has scored 62 points plus 10 bonus points so even without the bonus points averages 6.2 a match. Criticizing riders is a cheap shot.
[quote][p][bold]fatman[/bold] wrote: Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway[/p][/quote]Sorry but Hans Anderson has been brilliant this season and it seems only dipped form is a result of wages. If you remember when Hans chose to ride for his Danish club over us a while back he openly said "it will all come out in the end when questioned about his loyalty and if he is owed 10k or more then no wonder he has been subdued. How exactly would you be riding then if you were in his shoes. As for the two reserves Birks is a future talent and WILL get better but how can you include Howarth in your comments as being a Joke this lad has been simply fantastic for the last few meetings and has scored double figures in three of his ten matches a 9, two 6's and a 5 with a couple smaller scores hardly a joke I would say. he has scored 62 points plus 10 bonus points so even without the bonus points averages 6.2 a match. Criticizing riders is a cheap shot. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 4

9:31pm Fri 23 Aug 13

Bristols says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
fatman wrote:
Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway
Sorry but Hans Anderson has been brilliant this season and it seems only dipped form is a result of wages. If you remember when Hans chose to ride for his Danish club over us a while back he openly said "it will all come out in the end when questioned about his loyalty and if he is owed 10k or more then no wonder he has been subdued. How exactly would you be riding then if you were in his shoes. As for the two reserves Birks is a future talent and WILL get better but how can you include Howarth in your comments as being a Joke this lad has been simply fantastic for the last few meetings and has scored double figures in three of his ten matches a 9, two 6's and a 5 with a couple smaller scores hardly a joke I would say. he has scored 62 points plus 10 bonus points so even without the bonus points averages 6.2 a match. Criticizing riders is a cheap shot.
Well said M !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fatman[/bold] wrote: Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway[/p][/quote]Sorry but Hans Anderson has been brilliant this season and it seems only dipped form is a result of wages. If you remember when Hans chose to ride for his Danish club over us a while back he openly said "it will all come out in the end when questioned about his loyalty and if he is owed 10k or more then no wonder he has been subdued. How exactly would you be riding then if you were in his shoes. As for the two reserves Birks is a future talent and WILL get better but how can you include Howarth in your comments as being a Joke this lad has been simply fantastic for the last few meetings and has scored double figures in three of his ten matches a 9, two 6's and a 5 with a couple smaller scores hardly a joke I would say. he has scored 62 points plus 10 bonus points so even without the bonus points averages 6.2 a match. Criticizing riders is a cheap shot.[/p][/quote]Well said M !!!! Bristols
  • Score: 0

10:47pm Fri 23 Aug 13

swindonspur says...

fatman wrote:
Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway
Howarth a joke? WTF have you been watching. Would have been paid for double figures 3 meetings in a row if his bike hadnt gone pop in heat 14. Add that to match winning performances at Belle Vue and Lakeside and im not quite sure what you are on about.
[quote][p][bold]fatman[/bold] wrote: Hans Anderson should be ditched NOW . How can anyone with any sense say Anderson is a better rider than the man we have loaned out to Birmingham should have their head examined , Rossiter should get a grip or get out the 2 reserves are a joke , potential yes but are clearly a long way from ready for the rigours of Elite Speedway[/p][/quote]Howarth a joke? WTF have you been watching. Would have been paid for double figures 3 meetings in a row if his bike hadnt gone pop in heat 14. Add that to match winning performances at Belle Vue and Lakeside and im not quite sure what you are on about. swindonspur
  • Score: 4

9:47am Sat 24 Aug 13

oldlegtrailer says...

I think everyone should cool down a bit. The riders ride for a living and if you don't get paid you do not eat. They are not paid like Rooney or Ronaldo. They ride, they score points and they get paid per point generally. When they fall off and hurt themselves they don't ride so they don't earn. Try going to work for a few days and not getting paid - you might hold back.
The sport is in a mess and this has been happening for some time. The BSPA have not done enough to remedy the Elite league problems. Don't blame the riders, blame the authority. If the promotors think they have a chance of doubling their crowds to make money, dream on. Its a great sport but a minority sport and will never attract the crowds like it did in the 40s and 50s. They have to adjust the way the league is run to suit the scale of income. There is also a lot of cash floating around at any meeting and some are creaming a bit off. Years ago riders were paid upfront but some also received a plain brown envelope at the end of the meeting and this may still happen but some cash may go elsewhere
I think everyone should cool down a bit. The riders ride for a living and if you don't get paid you do not eat. They are not paid like Rooney or Ronaldo. They ride, they score points and they get paid per point generally. When they fall off and hurt themselves they don't ride so they don't earn. Try going to work for a few days and not getting paid - you might hold back. The sport is in a mess and this has been happening for some time. The BSPA have not done enough to remedy the Elite league problems. Don't blame the riders, blame the authority. If the promotors think they have a chance of doubling their crowds to make money, dream on. Its a great sport but a minority sport and will never attract the crowds like it did in the 40s and 50s. They have to adjust the way the league is run to suit the scale of income. There is also a lot of cash floating around at any meeting and some are creaming a bit off. Years ago riders were paid upfront but some also received a plain brown envelope at the end of the meeting and this may still happen but some cash may go elsewhere oldlegtrailer
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4:18pm Wed 18 Sep 13

caresaboutspeedway says...

impartial outsider thing I can' get my head round is Swindon bleating on about money while really tracking 3 assets of other clubs if they had paid the cost of the parent club then surely then they would have something to moan about
impartial outsider thing I can' get my head round is Swindon bleating on about money while really tracking 3 assets of other clubs if they had paid the cost of the parent club then surely then they would have something to moan about caresaboutspeedway
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