MATCHDAY LIVE: Sheffield United v Swindon Town

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5:00pm

Unfortunately we'll be unable to provide you with reaction this afternoon, but read a full report of today's game plus interviews with Swindon Town's management and players in The Result - inside your Swindon Advertiser on Monday.

4:56pm

FULL-TIME

Sheffield Utd 1 (Baxter 67) Swindon Town 0

Swindon really deserved nothing given their second-half display, and Jose Baxter's headed goal midway through the second half ensured that was the case.

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4:52pm

YELLOW CARD

Nathan Byrne is booked for diving, 90

4:49pm

Four minutes to be added to the game.

4:47pm

88 mins: Pritchard's shot is on target, but doesn't have the power to trouble Long.

4:46pm

87 mins: Luongo fires wide from range. There are mocking cheers from the Swindon fans. This second-half performance has been woeful from Town.

4:44pm

SHEFFIELD UTD SUBSTITUTION

Shaun Miller replaces Chris Porter, 85

4:40pm

81 mins: Connor Coady bursts forward and fires a fizzing effort over the Town crossbar.

4:36pm

SHEFFIELD UTD SUBSTITUTION

Matt Hill replaces Aidy White, 78

4:36pm

Town are really struggling to come up with anything in the Sheffield United half at the moment. It's looking bleak.

4:33pm

SWINDON SUBSTITUTION

Dany N'Guessan replaces Louis Thompson, 74

4:31pm

SHEFFIELD UTD SUBSTITUTION

Febian Brandy replaces Jamie Murphy, 72

4:29pm

SWINDON SUBSTITUTION

Ryan Harley replaces Yaser Kasim, 70

4:29pm

YELLOW CARD

McMahon goes in the book, 70

4:28pm

Sheffield Utd 1 (Baxter 67) Swindon Town 0

It's bee coming. Swindon can't clear a looping ball in the box and Baxter rises highest to loop his header over Foderingham.

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4:26pm

63 mins: Swindon survive a free-kick on the edge of the box, as United completely fluff their lines.

4:20pm

60 mins: United fans think they've scored when Hall toe pokes a fierce low cross out for a corner. They hadn't.

4:18pm

Swindon are shaking a bit here, they need to find some stability from somewhere. Cooper made the right change with Byrne replacing Thompson, who had a torrid afternoon spent mainly chasing the heels of Murphy.

4:13pm

SWINDON SUBSTITUTION

Nathan Byrne replaces Nathan Thompson, 53

4:12pm

52 mins: The hosts have hit a post. It looked like the ball hit two Swindon players but gently came off the woodwork.

4:12pm

51 mins: Baxter lets fly from 20 yards and sees his shot saved by Foderingham before Ryan Flynn's shot is deflected for a corner.

4:09pm

It's been a slow start to the second period, nothing of note to report so far.

4:06pm

Attendance here today is 15,430 (551 from Swindon).

4:04pm

The second half is under way at Bramall Lane, with Swindon attacking the end housing the travelling fans.

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4:02pm

The two teams are out for the second half.

3:56pm

LEAGUE ONE HALF-TIMES

Bradford 0 Leyton Orient 1; Brentford 0 Oldham 0; Bristol City 0 Rotherham 2; Carlisle 1 Tranmere 0; Colchester 0 Notts County 2; Coventry 1 Crewe 1; Crawley 0 Preston 2; Gillingham 0 Peterborough 1; Port Vale 1 Stevenage 2; Sheffield Utd 0 Swindon 0; Wolves 0 MK Dons 1.

3:50pm

HALF-TIME

Sheffield United 0 Swindon Town 0 

Town withstood a period of sustained pressure to more than match their hosts in that first half and ended the period in control.

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3:49pm

45 mins: Hall's overhead kick from a Pritchard corner lands on the roof of the net.

3:48pm

45 mins: Pritchard's free-kick hits the wall.

3:47pm

YELLOW CARD

Michael Doyle booked for a foul on Mason, 45

3:45pm

42 mins: Mason wriggles away from his marker 18 yards out but shoots at Long.

3:39pm

38 mins: Nicky Ajose gets away from his marker on the edge of the box and fires at George Long, who parries the ball to safety.

3:38pm

37 mins: Mason has a shot blocked. That's Town's first effort at goal of the game.

3:34pm

The two teams aren't being helped today by a quite bizarre refereeing performance by Mr Duncan. Wrong call after odd call, against both sides.

3:30pm

YELLOW CARD

Nathan Thompson tugs back Jamie Murphy and is booked, 30

3:24pm

The travelling Swindon fans are singing carols in the away end. Brilliant.

3:20pm

A quiet spell of possession for Swindon, who had to withstand five minutes of considerate pressure from United.

3:15pm

13 mins: Jose Baxter's free-kick is heading for the top corner but it hits Grant Hall's head and flies out for a corner

3:12pm

10 mins: Tony McMahon's drive from the edge of the area is saved unconvincingly by Wes Foderingham, who spills the ball out into the six-yard box before it is cleared.

3:08pm

An early moment of worry for Swindon, as Ryan Mason goes down and requires treatment but he's soon back on his feet.

3:05pm

A good start from Swindon, who are knocking the ball around nicely on an uneven playing surface.

3:03pm

And. They're. Off.

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2:56pm

The two teams are out at Bramall Lane, entering the pitch through a tunnel of waving flags.

2:56pm

LEAGUE ONE FULL-TIME

Shrewsbury 0 Walsall 1

2:51pm

Like the experience of visiting Molineux, going to Bramall Lane just makes you wonder how on earth this kind of stadium is entertaining third-tier football.

Tremendous set-up and a very friendly club. That ought to get me a free pie next year.

2:47pm

I'm told Swindon Town expected around 700 fans to make the trip from Wiltshire this afternoon. With 13 minutes to go until kick-off the away section is certainly looking sparse.

2:45pm

In the Premier League, Manchester City have just beaten Arsenal 6-3 - let's hope for a similar goalfest at Bramall Lane this afternoon.

2:43pm

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2:42pm

Town will be wearing their rather fetching black and blue-striped, Inter Milan second strip this afternoon. The white shorts they're having to sport with it don't quite go, however.

2:41pm

PREDICTIONS

2:40pm

LEAGUE ONE FIXTURES

Bradford v Leyton Orient; Brentford v Oldham; Bristol City v Rotherham; Carlisle v Tranmere; Colchester v Notts County; Coventry v Crewe; Crawley v Preston; Gillingham v Peterborough; Port Vale v Stevenage; Sheffield Utd v Swindon; Wolves v MK Dons.

LEAGUE ONE LATEST

Shrewsbury 0 Walsall 1

2:37pm

2:36pm

PREDICTIONS

2:36pm

YOUR SAY

2:29pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Rebel_phish says

Are we about to end 43 years without a win at Bramall Lane? Sheffield United’s current home form says maybe. Swindon’s away record this season says maybe not.

Its a tough one to call. Town are more than capable of a result, but with an improving Blades side under Cloughy, I fear they will be muscled off the ball.

2:35pm

PREDICTIONS

2:28pm

YOUR SAY

2:19pm Sat 14 Dec 13

dazzastfc says

3.1 SWINDON

COME ON YOU REDS

2:27pm

Mark Cooper's father Terry knew Nigel Clough's dad Brian during his playing career.

“He said it was entertaining, I think he got on well with Brian, but my dad was out injured while Brian was there so he didn’t really have a lot to do with it,” said Cooper. “My dad spoke quite highly of Brian, though.

Swindon Advertiser: Brian Clough led Nottingham Forest to two European Cup wins

LEGEND: BRIAN CLOUGH

“Management is ups and downs, snakes and ladders, while at one minute you think you’re at the top of the board then the next you land on that horrible big snake and you are down at the bottom. You have to take the rough with the smooth and stay with it.”

2:19pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

SHEFFIELD UTD v Swindon Town: Long, White, Maguire, Flynn, Doyle, Porter, Baxter, Collins, Coady, Murphy, McMahon.

Substitutes: Howard, Hill, Taylor, Miller, Cuvelier, Brandy, Lappin

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2:16pm

Swindon Town's players have popped out of the tunnel for their warm-up.

2:15pm

Just had another enjoyable experience trying to describe Mark Cooper's potential formations to a journalist who covers Sheffield United.

This happens every week:

Opposition journo: "How will you line up?

Long pause.

Me: "Well it could be 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-6-0, 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1."

Long, judgemental pause.

Opposition journo: "What do you think it will be?"

Longer, awkward pause.

Me: "4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-6-0, 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1."

Opposition journo walks away shaking his head.

2:10pm

Wes Foderingham and Tyrell Belford have emerged for their warm-up in front of the travelling Swindon fans.

2:09pm

YOUR SAY

2:08pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the wizard says

I'll settle for a point today, and a clean sheet. We need our back four to play as if their lives depend on it today. These guys are week on week improving since the arrival of Clough, which should be taken seriously.

2:08pm

Mark Cooper has been delighted by the way his midfield options have shaped up this season, allowing the Swindon Town manager to chop and change at will.

“Louis didn’t play (against Stevenage), Yaser didn’t play, and that shows we can leave people out and still put a really good team out on the pitch," he said.

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MARK COOPER

"That may change again on Saturday and they will all need to be on the top of their game every week.”

2:07pm

Swindon Town have a habit of taking the lead at Bramall Lane and going on to lose.

Here's another example - almost 16 years to the day ago...

2:03pm

The few hundred fans already inside Bramall Lane have just been treated to Michael Buble's Christmas album in its entirety. Got to love the Buble.

It's Wizzard's turn now. Excellent.

2:02pm

It'll be interesting to see how that Swindon team sets up. If Mark Cooper is going for 4-6-0 again you'd expect Dany N'Guessan to be included from the offset.

It could be that Cooper is going more aggressive, with Alex Pritchard supporting Nicky Ajose at the top and Yaser Kasim sitting in front of the back four.

Or I could be completely wrong, which wouldn't be the first time. 

2:00pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

Sheffield United v SWINDON TOWN: Foderingham; N Thompson, Hall, Ward, McEveley; Kasim; Luongo, Mason, L Thompson, Pritchard; Ajose

Substitutes: Belford, Byrne, Branco, Gladwin, Harley, El Gabas, N'Guessan

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1:54pm

ADVER CHIEF SPORTS WRITER SAM MORSHEAD: "This will be one hell of a tough test for Town today against a Sheffield United team who are improving week on week.

"The Blades may be less physical than in recent years but they still boast a plethora of young, technically gifted players - similar to Swindon in that respect.

"Keep the likes of Lyle Taylor, Jose Baxter and Febian Brandy quiet and Town will be in with a great chance of ending their wretched run at Bramall Lane.

"I'm looking forward to it."

1:50pm

BACK IN THE DAY

Bramall Lane was the scene of Swindon Town's first outing in the Premier League in 1993.

Happy memories, in a way, even though the game ended in defeat for Town. Nonetheless, it's a good excuse for a spot of nostalgia. Here you go...

1:48pm

Mark Cooper has been massively impressed by Alex Pritchard's attitude in recent weeks, after finding himself out of the team for the trip to Colchester.

“There was maybe a moment a few weeks ago, when Alex was left out the team, and I think he realised then he had to do more," said the Swindon Town manager.

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TEAM PLAYER: ALEX PRITCHARD

"Since he’s come back into the team he’s been fantastic, his work rate and desire has been first class, and what you saw the other night was what he’s all about. If he keeps playing like that he’s going to have a good future."

1:47pm

A little peek at the state of the Bramall Lane pitch from our press vantage point at the bacl of the main stand. It's looking a little worse for wear but not awful.

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1:46pm

The Swindon Town players have arrived at the County Ground ahead of this afternoon's match, and they're having a walk on the Bramall Lane pitch.

1:45pm

MAN IN THE MIDDLE

Our referee this afternoon is Scott Duncan, and away goals seem to follow him around a little bit.

Duncan has already presided over two 4-2 victories for visiting sides this season, as well as Brentford's 4-3 success at Tranmere. It bodes well for Swindon, then.

1:42pm

LAST TIME OUT

Although we'd all probably prefer to forget about our last trip to Bramall Lane, it's only fair that we have a brief look back.

Swindon Advertiser: Dave Kitson

DAVE KITSON: GINGER MENACE

It was April, Town were chasing a play-off place and completely forgot how to play football away from home. Headers cfrom George Porter and Dave Kitson - one in either half - won the game for the hosts, but it could and absolutely should have been a lot worse for Swindon.

Remember it all, if you're into sadist stuff, right here.

1:39pm

YOUR SAY

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1:36pm

1:35pm

TEAM NEWS

Nothing official until around 2pm but here's what we know going into this afternoon's clash.

Nathan Byrne returns from a two-match suspension and will be pushing Nathan Thompson for a starting berth at right-back, but Nile Ranger will not be involved after further disciplinary issues.

Swindon Advertiser: Town's Massimo Luongo, left, celebrates his goal with Nathan Byrne

BACK: NATHAN BYRNE, RIGHT

Long-term injured trio - Alex Smith, Troy Archibald-Henville and Tijane Reis - are all closing in on a return to full training but they're nowhere near match fitness just yet.

1:33pm

Stick with me throughout the afternoon as we build up to a 3pm kick-off, and follow all the action as it happens right here.

Buckle up. Enjoy. Thanks very much.

1:32pm

After a horrendous start to the campaign, which ultimately cost manager David Weir his job, United are starting to find their feet under the tutelage of Nigel Clough.

The Blades are unbeaten in four matches going into this afternoon's contest and Swindon will have to be right on top of their game to take at least a share of the points back to Wiltshire this evening.

1:31pm

The Robins are unbeaten in three matches going into the clash with the Blades, but a woeful record at Bramall Lane down the years points to a difficult afternoon for Mark Cooper's side in South Yorkshire.

1:30pm

Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Bramall Lane, where Swindon Town take on Sheffield United in League One this afternoon.

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2:01pm Sat 14 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

In the Fat Cat Kelham Island - drinking ridiculously cheap beer! Off to Brammal Lane soon!
In the Fat Cat Kelham Island - drinking ridiculously cheap beer! Off to Brammal Lane soon! The Jockster

2:08pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the wizard says...

I'll settle for a point today, and a clean sheet. We need our back four to play as if their lives depend on it today. These guys are week on week improving since the arrival of Clough, which should be taken seriously.
I'll settle for a point today, and a clean sheet. We need our back four to play as if their lives depend on it today. These guys are week on week improving since the arrival of Clough, which should be taken seriously. the wizard

2:19pm Sat 14 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

3.1 SWINDON

COME ON YOU REDS
3.1 SWINDON COME ON YOU REDS dazzastfc

2:29pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Rebel_phish says...

Are we about to end 43 years without a win at Bramall Lane? Sheffield United’s current home form says maybe. Swindon’s away record this season says maybe not.

Its a tough one to call. Town are more than capable of a result, but with an improving Blades side under Cloughy, I fear they will be muscled off the ball.
Are we about to end 43 years without a win at Bramall Lane? Sheffield United’s current home form says maybe. Swindon’s away record this season says maybe not. Its a tough one to call. Town are more than capable of a result, but with an improving Blades side under Cloughy, I fear they will be muscled off the ball. Rebel_phish

2:58pm Sat 14 Dec 13

louiscassius says...

Come on Swindon!

Keep it tight, lots of discipline and control and some amazing flair !!

Go and enjoy it !!

COYR'ssss
Come on Swindon! Keep it tight, lots of discipline and control and some amazing flair !! Go and enjoy it !! COYR'ssss louiscassius

3:46pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Scouse Red says...

With Rotheram already 2-0 at Bristol City and Bradford playing The Orient Express we need to get something out of today's game which is a difficult ask. Cut out the errors and we can definitely get a point.

Such a shame The Lone Ranger has shot himself in the foot by the looks of it - he looked dynamite upfront. Let's keep close to the top 6 and see what Santa brings Mr Cooper for Crimbo
With Rotheram already 2-0 at Bristol City and Bradford playing The Orient Express we need to get something out of today's game which is a difficult ask. Cut out the errors and we can definitely get a point. Such a shame The Lone Ranger has shot himself in the foot by the looks of it - he looked dynamite upfront. Let's keep close to the top 6 and see what Santa brings Mr Cooper for Crimbo Scouse Red

3:56pm Sat 14 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Not a bad 1st half although some sloppy midfield play at times and Nathan getting skinned every time by Murphy which ultimately meant a booking.
Last 5 mins Town started to press and might have snatched a goal. Still well in with a shout - which we weren't last season by now!
Not a bad 1st half although some sloppy midfield play at times and Nathan getting skinned every time by Murphy which ultimately meant a booking. Last 5 mins Town started to press and might have snatched a goal. Still well in with a shout - which we weren't last season by now! The Jockster

4:07pm Sat 14 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

The question Town fans need to be asking is what has happened to the player that used to be Kasim! He's vanished!
The question Town fans need to be asking is what has happened to the player that used to be Kasim! He's vanished! The Jockster

4:24pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Scouse Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
The question Town fans need to be asking is what has happened to the player that used to be Kasim! He's vanished!
Thought he was a bit off the pace the other night when he came on. Mason & Luongo play well together but miss that shield behind them although thought Harley was quietly effective.

Perhaps the chopping and changing in midfield has impacted his game?
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: The question Town fans need to be asking is what has happened to the player that used to be Kasim! He's vanished![/p][/quote]Thought he was a bit off the pace the other night when he came on. Mason & Luongo play well together but miss that shield behind them although thought Harley was quietly effective. Perhaps the chopping and changing in midfield has impacted his game? Scouse Red

4:28pm Sat 14 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Too much fannying around with the ball at the back- not getting tackles in - result? 1-0 Blades
Too much fannying around with the ball at the back- not getting tackles in - result? 1-0 Blades The Jockster

4:30pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the wizard says...

Have to fancy them pushing for a second
Have to fancy them pushing for a second the wizard

5:05pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

The Jockster wrote:
The question Town fans need to be asking is what has happened to the player that used to be Kasim! He's vanished!
He was given an extended contract so has he taken his foot off the gas and feels he can lay back a little. Masimo seemed to go off when we signed him outright.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: The question Town fans need to be asking is what has happened to the player that used to be Kasim! He's vanished![/p][/quote]He was given an extended contract so has he taken his foot off the gas and feels he can lay back a little. Masimo seemed to go off when we signed him outright. Di kanny oh

5:13pm Sat 14 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Very poor 2nd half display no shot on target until 87 minute- no striker until Danny N'G came on. Mason should ask Cooper what his role is because on today's showing he surely can't know. Kasim was lucky to stay on as long as he did.
When we can't play our pretty stuff we simply have no plan b - how many times has that been said this season ? As some wag said " should have gone Xmas shopping!
Hugely disappointing display because Blades themselves are a poor side at the moment.
Very poor 2nd half display no shot on target until 87 minute- no striker until Danny N'G came on. Mason should ask Cooper what his role is because on today's showing he surely can't know. Kasim was lucky to stay on as long as he did. When we can't play our pretty stuff we simply have no plan b - how many times has that been said this season ? As some wag said " should have gone Xmas shopping! Hugely disappointing display because Blades themselves are a poor side at the moment. The Jockster

5:21pm Sat 14 Dec 13

MoonrakerMatelot says...

Battling through the Sheffield traffic. What an absolutely shockingly pitiful display of football. We sat so deep all game and invited Sheffield to come at us. On the handful of occasions we made it into their half we were totally devoid of any ideas. Speechless! Not one Town player had a good game. It comes to something when the away support (excellent numbers) were singing 'let's pretend we've had a shot'.
Battling through the Sheffield traffic. What an absolutely shockingly pitiful display of football. We sat so deep all game and invited Sheffield to come at us. On the handful of occasions we made it into their half we were totally devoid of any ideas. Speechless! Not one Town player had a good game. It comes to something when the away support (excellent numbers) were singing 'let's pretend we've had a shot'. MoonrakerMatelot

5:24pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Fact is Town are not hard to beat and we will lose many more games this season. Just have to hope that Cooper can find the players for defense or hope that Troy can get back fit. Nice pretty football will never grind out results so we have to get used to losing games while we build for the future and that will surely take time but could all change in January if we lose players. Cooper is getting slagged off yet he has tried to change things away after losing too many games and we are no where near the finished article and have to develop which will take more than just this season. Anything better than half way was always going to be decent in my book and fans need to forget play offs while we rebuild from the previous regime which WILL TAKE TIME FOR FS.
Fact is Town are not hard to beat and we will lose many more games this season. Just have to hope that Cooper can find the players for defense or hope that Troy can get back fit. Nice pretty football will never grind out results so we have to get used to losing games while we build for the future and that will surely take time but could all change in January if we lose players. Cooper is getting slagged off yet he has tried to change things away after losing too many games and we are no where near the finished article and have to develop which will take more than just this season. Anything better than half way was always going to be decent in my book and fans need to forget play offs while we rebuild from the previous regime which WILL TAKE TIME FOR FS. Di kanny oh

5:35pm Sat 14 Dec 13

umpcah says...

MoonrakerMatelot wrote:
Battling through the Sheffield traffic. What an absolutely shockingly pitiful display of football. We sat so deep all game and invited Sheffield to come at us. On the handful of occasions we made it into their half we were totally devoid of any ideas. Speechless! Not one Town player had a good game. It comes to something when the away support (excellent numbers) were singing 'let's pretend we've had a shot'.
'let's pretend we've had a shot' BRILLIANT ! Not one Town player had a good game ? Alas these pisspoor games do crop up and over the years I`ve seen plenty. Bristol City fans are no happier than we are tonight and Flinty is being blamed for their defensive disasters. Ah well roll on the opening of the January window !
[quote][p][bold]MoonrakerMatelot[/bold] wrote: Battling through the Sheffield traffic. What an absolutely shockingly pitiful display of football. We sat so deep all game and invited Sheffield to come at us. On the handful of occasions we made it into their half we were totally devoid of any ideas. Speechless! Not one Town player had a good game. It comes to something when the away support (excellent numbers) were singing 'let's pretend we've had a shot'.[/p][/quote]'let's pretend we've had a shot' BRILLIANT ! Not one Town player had a good game ? Alas these pisspoor games do crop up and over the years I`ve seen plenty. Bristol City fans are no happier than we are tonight and Flinty is being blamed for their defensive disasters. Ah well roll on the opening of the January window ! umpcah

5:50pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Old-Stager, Hilperton says...

I remember many seasons ago when Town were having a very poor run of results, there was a game away to Peterborough Utd when we were fairly bad to say the least, and The Town Fans sang " We'll score again, Dont know where, Dont know when, but I know we'll score again some sunny day.
To the tune of Vera Lynn's "We'll meet again"
I remember many seasons ago when Town were having a very poor run of results, there was a game away to Peterborough Utd when we were fairly bad to say the least, and The Town Fans sang " We'll score again, Dont know where, Dont know when, but I know we'll score again some sunny day. To the tune of Vera Lynn's "We'll meet again" Old-Stager, Hilperton

5:55pm Sat 14 Dec 13

umpcah says...

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
I remember many seasons ago when Town were having a very poor run of results, there was a game away to Peterborough Utd when we were fairly bad to say the least, and The Town Fans sang " We'll score again, Dont know where, Dont know when, but I know we'll score again some sunny day. To the tune of Vera Lynn's "We'll meet again"
Thanks for that ! I had to grin ! I can remember the days when Swindon fans used to yell " We want six " AND very often got them ! Two sides to the coin I guess ?
[quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: I remember many seasons ago when Town were having a very poor run of results, there was a game away to Peterborough Utd when we were fairly bad to say the least, and The Town Fans sang " We'll score again, Dont know where, Dont know when, but I know we'll score again some sunny day. To the tune of Vera Lynn's "We'll meet again"[/p][/quote]Thanks for that ! I had to grin ! I can remember the days when Swindon fans used to yell " We want six " AND very often got them ! Two sides to the coin I guess ? umpcah

5:55pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the wizard says...

This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either.

By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.
This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either. By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet. the wizard

5:59pm Sat 14 Dec 13

joey butler says...

''Unfortunately we'll be unable to provide you with reaction this afternoon, but read a full report of today's game plus interviews with Swindon Town's management and players in The Result - inside your Swindon Advertiser on Monday.''

Why no reaction please Sam?

Was the game really that bad that Sam decided to reverse over himself in the car park, or was Mark Cooper not allowed to express his own opinions because Lee Power was at a Big Fat Gypsy Wedding this afternoon and could not make the match?
''Unfortunately we'll be unable to provide you with reaction this afternoon, but read a full report of today's game plus interviews with Swindon Town's management and players in The Result - inside your Swindon Advertiser on Monday.'' Why no reaction please Sam? Was the game really that bad that Sam decided to reverse over himself in the car park, or was Mark Cooper not allowed to express his own opinions because Lee Power was at a Big Fat Gypsy Wedding this afternoon and could not make the match? joey butler

6:12pm Sat 14 Dec 13

umpcah says...

Where is everybody ? Too fed up to post ?
Where is everybody ? Too fed up to post ? umpcah

6:17pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the wizard says...

umpcah wrote:
Where is everybody ? Too fed up to post ?
Web site very slow at my end, maybe others have the same. Todays game was a bit of same old-same old, and plenty are busy given the time of year, also a few travelling back, it takes time. Laters buddy when they get home, but not much to discuss really. Have a good evening. Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: Where is everybody ? Too fed up to post ?[/p][/quote]Web site very slow at my end, maybe others have the same. Todays game was a bit of same old-same old, and plenty are busy given the time of year, also a few travelling back, it takes time. Laters buddy when they get home, but not much to discuss really. Have a good evening. Cheers. the wizard

6:39pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

I think Cooper has assessed the situation exactly right. We simply don't have the players to be able to go to away to difficult grounds and attack the opposition, so he is packing the midfield in the hope that we can sneak a point. Any plan B with these players would only result in bigger defeats. Bad results are not always the manager's fault. There's only so much any manager can do with the raw material he's been given.

It all depends on what Cooper can do in January. If he can't sign, at the very least, a strong lower division centre half and a combative midfielder, the best we can possibly hope for is very mixed results from now until the end of the season - and that's without even considering potential departures. Before I get berated for being "negative", I'd point out that I'm not complaining - just being realistic and agreeing with the manager.
I think Cooper has assessed the situation exactly right. We simply don't have the players to be able to go to away to difficult grounds and attack the opposition, so he is packing the midfield in the hope that we can sneak a point. Any plan B with these players would only result in bigger defeats. Bad results are not always the manager's fault. There's only so much any manager can do with the raw material he's been given. It all depends on what Cooper can do in January. If he can't sign, at the very least, a strong lower division centre half and a combative midfielder, the best we can possibly hope for is very mixed results from now until the end of the season - and that's without even considering potential departures. Before I get berated for being "negative", I'd point out that I'm not complaining - just being realistic and agreeing with the manager. Oi Den!

7:11pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I think Cooper has assessed the situation exactly right. We simply don't have the players to be able to go to away to difficult grounds and attack the opposition, so he is packing the midfield in the hope that we can sneak a point. Any plan B with these players would only result in bigger defeats. Bad results are not always the manager's fault. There's only so much any manager can do with the raw material he's been given.

It all depends on what Cooper can do in January. If he can't sign, at the very least, a strong lower division centre half and a combative midfielder, the best we can possibly hope for is very mixed results from now until the end of the season - and that's without even considering potential departures. Before I get berated for being "negative", I'd point out that I'm not complaining - just being realistic and agreeing with the manager.
Very realistic Den and I feel some fans expectations need to be lowered. Yes we would all like play offs but this team are not up to winning every week and shutting up shop to grind out results. Di Canio had the luxury of so many different defenders and could even play McCormack at the back so always kept these players on their toes whereas Cooper has never really had this luxury with injuries to Oakley and TAH. Hopefully like you say a defender in and getting players fit could well see a change and we would be able to rest Hall or Ward. Season of ups and downs but sitting 8th is not at all bad in my book.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I think Cooper has assessed the situation exactly right. We simply don't have the players to be able to go to away to difficult grounds and attack the opposition, so he is packing the midfield in the hope that we can sneak a point. Any plan B with these players would only result in bigger defeats. Bad results are not always the manager's fault. There's only so much any manager can do with the raw material he's been given. It all depends on what Cooper can do in January. If he can't sign, at the very least, a strong lower division centre half and a combative midfielder, the best we can possibly hope for is very mixed results from now until the end of the season - and that's without even considering potential departures. Before I get berated for being "negative", I'd point out that I'm not complaining - just being realistic and agreeing with the manager.[/p][/quote]Very realistic Den and I feel some fans expectations need to be lowered. Yes we would all like play offs but this team are not up to winning every week and shutting up shop to grind out results. Di Canio had the luxury of so many different defenders and could even play McCormack at the back so always kept these players on their toes whereas Cooper has never really had this luxury with injuries to Oakley and TAH. Hopefully like you say a defender in and getting players fit could well see a change and we would be able to rest Hall or Ward. Season of ups and downs but sitting 8th is not at all bad in my book. Di kanny oh

7:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

NEWBURYREDS says...

just got back from yet another crxp away performance, Sorry but this is not good enough. MC said sheff utd didnt look like scoring? well they scored 1 hit a post and missed 2 sitters, we could of been there all night and still not scored. there keeper made 2 saves and 1 of those was like a back pass. poor VERY VERY POOR, Great away support as normal WELL DONE TOWN FANS
just got back from yet another crxp away performance, Sorry but this is not good enough. MC said sheff utd didnt look like scoring? well they scored 1 hit a post and missed 2 sitters, we could of been there all night and still not scored. there keeper made 2 saves and 1 of those was like a back pass. poor VERY VERY POOR, Great away support as normal WELL DONE TOWN FANS NEWBURYREDS

8:14pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

DKO, I wish they'd get rid of the play-offs and just give the third promotion place to the team that's been the third best over the season. But as you say we're not likely to be involved anyway. If we get to the end of the season still in this division and Power has the club moving in the right direction, I think it will be a great result.
DKO, I wish they'd get rid of the play-offs and just give the third promotion place to the team that's been the third best over the season. But as you say we're not likely to be involved anyway. If we get to the end of the season still in this division and Power has the club moving in the right direction, I think it will be a great result. Oi Den!

8:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

jayden says...

Well done all the away fans, we move on to sat. I wonder how Nile spent his day off, ah I'll take a look.
Well done all the away fans, we move on to sat. I wonder how Nile spent his day off, ah I'll take a look. jayden

9:43pm Sat 14 Dec 13

MoonrakerMatelot says...

Some great singing today which helped to raise the sombre mood a little.
To the tune of We all live in a yellow submarine: "All we want is a f*@ckin' shot on goal" Followed by Number 1 is in defence, number 2 is in defence, number 3 is in defence...you get the picture.
Some great singing today which helped to raise the sombre mood a little. To the tune of We all live in a yellow submarine: "All we want is a f*@ckin' shot on goal" Followed by Number 1 is in defence, number 2 is in defence, number 3 is in defence...you get the picture. MoonrakerMatelot

10:13pm Sat 14 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either.

By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.
Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings.
I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick.
When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season.
Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot.
The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either. By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.[/p][/quote]Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings. I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick. When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season. Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot. The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly. The Jockster

10:26pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

jayden wrote:
Well done all the away fans, we move on to sat. I wonder how Nile spent his day off, ah I'll take a look.
Hard luck mate. My commiserations to you and all the others who made the trek. I wouldn't have even considered it because when the going gets tough too many of our players disappear - and it was always going to be tough up there.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: Well done all the away fans, we move on to sat. I wonder how Nile spent his day off, ah I'll take a look.[/p][/quote]Hard luck mate. My commiserations to you and all the others who made the trek. I wouldn't have even considered it because when the going gets tough too many of our players disappear - and it was always going to be tough up there. Oi Den!

10:29pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Sorry - that post was to Jock.

jayden, let us know the results of your research!
Sorry - that post was to Jock. jayden, let us know the results of your research! Oi Den!

10:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

MoonrakerMatelot wrote:
Some great singing today which helped to raise the sombre mood a little.
To the tune of We all live in a yellow submarine: "All we want is a f*@ckin' shot on goal" Followed by Number 1 is in defence, number 2 is in defence, number 3 is in defence...you get the picture.
Agree Moonraker, it was one of the best choral performances I've witnessed in a long time and was very also very impressed with the song variety! I was was tempted to bootleg a Christmas cd.

In terms of the game, it was very tight throughout and mainly played in the middle third of the pitch. Sheffield deserved to win but it was a battle of 2very average looking teams. Sorry Den, but have to say that when one of the choral favourites "we always get inadequate officials" struck up have way through the first half, it was entirely justified. The ref's first half performance was abysmal.

The positives. The defence looked pretty good to me. Jay, hall and Wardy all turning in good performances with only Nathan looking out of sorts. He was run ragged by their left winger in the first half. Pritchard played well, showed strength and endeavour and it was the best away performance I've seen Mass put in all season.

The negatives. Playing Mason as the most forward player was an absolute disaster and the reason I believe we lost the game. There was no target man whatsoever up front, no one for Fodders to kick to and no one to hold the ball up to give some relief to the defence. When N'Guesson eventually came on, MC stuck him on the wing! Poor tactics. It was also the worst game I've seen Kasim play, off the pace and created nothing.

Overall, disappointing but Town did show some steel and nouse in defending which bodes well and even started to look dangerous in the latter part of the first half.

Talk of relegation on the basis of this is completely unfounded but Cooper would do well to play a target/hold up man in his defensive away set ups. .....And that leads us back to Nile Ranger??
[quote][p][bold]MoonrakerMatelot[/bold] wrote: Some great singing today which helped to raise the sombre mood a little. To the tune of We all live in a yellow submarine: "All we want is a f*@ckin' shot on goal" Followed by Number 1 is in defence, number 2 is in defence, number 3 is in defence...you get the picture.[/p][/quote]Agree Moonraker, it was one of the best choral performances I've witnessed in a long time and was very also very impressed with the song variety! I was was tempted to bootleg a Christmas cd. In terms of the game, it was very tight throughout and mainly played in the middle third of the pitch. Sheffield deserved to win but it was a battle of 2very average looking teams. Sorry Den, but have to say that when one of the choral favourites "we always get inadequate officials" struck up have way through the first half, it was entirely justified. The ref's first half performance was abysmal. The positives. The defence looked pretty good to me. Jay, hall and Wardy all turning in good performances with only Nathan looking out of sorts. He was run ragged by their left winger in the first half. Pritchard played well, showed strength and endeavour and it was the best away performance I've seen Mass put in all season. The negatives. Playing Mason as the most forward player was an absolute disaster and the reason I believe we lost the game. There was no target man whatsoever up front, no one for Fodders to kick to and no one to hold the ball up to give some relief to the defence. When N'Guesson eventually came on, MC stuck him on the wing! Poor tactics. It was also the worst game I've seen Kasim play, off the pace and created nothing. Overall, disappointing but Town did show some steel and nouse in defending which bodes well and even started to look dangerous in the latter part of the first half. Talk of relegation on the basis of this is completely unfounded but Cooper would do well to play a target/hold up man in his defensive away set ups. .....And that leads us back to Nile Ranger?? mancrobin

10:49pm Sat 14 Dec 13

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote:
This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either.

By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.
Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings.
I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick.
When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season.
Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot.
The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.
Jock,
I totally accept your sentiments and ambitions. That said, our performance reflects the standard of player we have which in turn, says everything about the clubs position right now. I have always thought that loan players and most, not all, bought in younger players don't have the serious commitment both you and I like to see in a team, and that is where we are right now.
Fighting spirit as we both know is best home grown or from players who want to be here, or are looking at carving out a name for themselves, like Ritchie, so they get moved on to a higher positioned club. I totally agree that under performers should get a kick in the old Jacksie, and I do hope Cooper will do that. Lets face it, right now we are close to being a shambles, we have been found out and teams know what to do to stop us playing the way we want to. I'll bet Cloughie had a right go at half time and a few verbal salvo's in a few ears. The truth is we are easily beaten at the moment and struggled against a Stevenage side at home that we should have beaten easily in the first half. You should have second guessed todays performance before kick off, and to be honest I'm quite surprised you didn't.
I have the greatest respect for our traveling fan base, they are to be admired and acknowledged, and you are quite correct, should have witnessed players at least making an effort. I hope Cooper and Power are able to deal a bit in January, and maybe ship out some of the under performers. Yet again it seems a shake up is needed.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either. By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.[/p][/quote]Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings. I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick. When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season. Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot. The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.[/p][/quote]Jock, I totally accept your sentiments and ambitions. That said, our performance reflects the standard of player we have which in turn, says everything about the clubs position right now. I have always thought that loan players and most, not all, bought in younger players don't have the serious commitment both you and I like to see in a team, and that is where we are right now. Fighting spirit as we both know is best home grown or from players who want to be here, or are looking at carving out a name for themselves, like Ritchie, so they get moved on to a higher positioned club. I totally agree that under performers should get a kick in the old Jacksie, and I do hope Cooper will do that. Lets face it, right now we are close to being a shambles, we have been found out and teams know what to do to stop us playing the way we want to. I'll bet Cloughie had a right go at half time and a few verbal salvo's in a few ears. The truth is we are easily beaten at the moment and struggled against a Stevenage side at home that we should have beaten easily in the first half. You should have second guessed todays performance before kick off, and to be honest I'm quite surprised you didn't. I have the greatest respect for our traveling fan base, they are to be admired and acknowledged, and you are quite correct, should have witnessed players at least making an effort. I hope Cooper and Power are able to deal a bit in January, and maybe ship out some of the under performers. Yet again it seems a shake up is needed. the wizard

11:06pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

manc, we've led the horse to water but he doesn't seem to want to drink it.

I've no reason to doubt your view that the ref was poor. Refs have poor games, just like players have poor games. But if we always get sh*t refs (and by the way we we don't), isn't there always a 50/50 chance that a sh*t decision will go in our favour?
manc, we've led the horse to water but he doesn't seem to want to drink it. I've no reason to doubt your view that the ref was poor. Refs have poor games, just like players have poor games. But if we always get sh*t refs (and by the way we we don't), isn't there always a 50/50 chance that a sh*t decision will go in our favour? Oi Den!

11:11pm Sat 14 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
manc, we've led the horse to water but he doesn't seem to want to drink it.

I've no reason to doubt your view that the ref was poor. Refs have poor games, just like players have poor games. But if we always get sh*t refs (and by the way we we don't), isn't there always a 50/50 chance that a sh*t decision will go in our favour?
Totally agree with all of that Den. One of the poorest decisions was a supposed foul on Nathan Thompson when the Sheffield U player clearly got the ball.

I only put that bit in to wind you up really Den :)
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: manc, we've led the horse to water but he doesn't seem to want to drink it. I've no reason to doubt your view that the ref was poor. Refs have poor games, just like players have poor games. But if we always get sh*t refs (and by the way we we don't), isn't there always a 50/50 chance that a sh*t decision will go in our favour?[/p][/quote]Totally agree with all of that Den. One of the poorest decisions was a supposed foul on Nathan Thompson when the Sheffield U player clearly got the ball. I only put that bit in to wind you up really Den :) mancrobin

7:21am Sun 15 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

umpcah wrote:
Where is everybody ? Too fed up to post ?
anyone for cricket ? ........... :o( even worse......
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: Where is everybody ? Too fed up to post ?[/p][/quote]anyone for cricket ? ........... :o( even worse...... Chish and Fips

7:22am Sun 15 Dec 13

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Sorry - that post was to Jock.

jayden, let us know the results of your research!
Hi Den seems just "chilling" out with his "Bros ,hangers on, who ever .
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Sorry - that post was to Jock. jayden, let us know the results of your research![/p][/quote]Hi Den seems just "chilling" out with his "Bros ,hangers on, who ever . jayden

7:27am Sun 15 Dec 13

jayden says...

The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote:
This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either.

By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.
Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings.
I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick.
When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season.
Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot.
The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.
Hi Jock, a great game yesterday lots of great tackles and two great goals ,pity I am talking about my under 7 game. Least you got back safely .
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either. By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.[/p][/quote]Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings. I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick. When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season. Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot. The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.[/p][/quote]Hi Jock, a great game yesterday lots of great tackles and two great goals ,pity I am talking about my under 7 game. Least you got back safely . jayden

8:23am Sun 15 Dec 13

gibbo1012 says...

The singing from the fans was our highlight yesterday.

The only two players we have who will actually put there foot in and tackle are the thompsons. And to me Nathan still isn't 100% fit.

We should have switched to 4-4-2 with nguessan up top with ajose.

Mason and kazim were poor today.

Hate to say it but jay mc has been our best player in recent weeks.
The singing from the fans was our highlight yesterday. The only two players we have who will actually put there foot in and tackle are the thompsons. And to me Nathan still isn't 100% fit. We should have switched to 4-4-2 with nguessan up top with ajose. Mason and kazim were poor today. Hate to say it but jay mc has been our best player in recent weeks. gibbo1012

8:39am Sun 15 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

That was relegation fodder.
I am still waiting for the patient build up for us to get in the worst opponents half.
Sorry cooper if that's the best you can do, then your bags are half full.
A disgrace and shambles with the town fans taking the piiss out of your style formation
That was relegation fodder. I am still waiting for the patient build up for us to get in the worst opponents half. Sorry cooper if that's the best you can do, then your bags are half full. A disgrace and shambles with the town fans taking the piiss out of your style formation smirg kcab

10:17am Sun 15 Dec 13

mike1990 says...

Awful just not good enough Cooper and our very poor players,no desire,not much effort we just laid down and died to a poor Sheff Utd team,a Sheff fan shouted call yourselves footballers,none of you lot would get in our Sunday League team and that's both teams.those saying div1 is a tough league rubbish it's a cr*p league. Power got a lot of work on his hands to put a Promotion side together,cause most of our lot are just not up to it end of.
Awful just not good enough Cooper and our very poor players,no desire,not much effort we just laid down and died to a poor Sheff Utd team,a Sheff fan shouted call yourselves footballers,none of you lot would get in our Sunday League team and that's both teams.those saying div1 is a tough league rubbish it's a cr*p league. Power got a lot of work on his hands to put a Promotion side together,cause most of our lot are just not up to it end of. mike1990

12:29pm Sun 15 Dec 13

red white says...

So sing us a song then you lovely reds who went oop north.

We need to know,football was rubbish we can accept that!
So sing us a song then you lovely reds who went oop north. We need to know,football was rubbish we can accept that! red white

12:45pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

As Cooper said after the game we could have played any formation and still would have got nothing as our big players simply weren't up for it.

Den's view above that we need a couple of old heads in at centre half and centre mid is absolutely correct, athough it has been said many times over he last few months. We never adequately replaced the desire of Flint and Macca and the problem is still the same. Unfortunately the two who could help on the books (Troy and Navarro) I doubt will play for us again.

How N'Guessan is not getting a start is beyond me yes he's not as good a holdup man as the soon to go Ranger, but he's the next best and has an eye for goal, so play him.

From what we have I would go

Nathan T Hall Ward McEveley
Louis T
Byrne Luongo Harley Ajose
NGuessan

If Pritchard Mason and Kasim don't fancy it no problem they can sit on the bench or leave in January. The loanees can be replaced by new loanees in Jan from the new club or clubs that want to send players our way according to Power.
As Cooper said after the game we could have played any formation and still would have got nothing as our big players simply weren't up for it. Den's view above that we need a couple of old heads in at centre half and centre mid is absolutely correct, athough it has been said many times over he last few months. We never adequately replaced the desire of Flint and Macca and the problem is still the same. Unfortunately the two who could help on the books (Troy and Navarro) I doubt will play for us again. How N'Guessan is not getting a start is beyond me yes he's not as good a holdup man as the soon to go Ranger, but he's the next best and has an eye for goal, so play him. From what we have I would go Nathan T Hall Ward McEveley Louis T Byrne Luongo Harley Ajose NGuessan If Pritchard Mason and Kasim don't fancy it no problem they can sit on the bench or leave in January. The loanees can be replaced by new loanees in Jan from the new club or clubs that want to send players our way according to Power. Wilesy

2:13pm Sun 15 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

the wizard wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote:
This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either.

By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.
Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings.
I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick.
When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season.
Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot.
The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.
Jock,
I totally accept your sentiments and ambitions. That said, our performance reflects the standard of player we have which in turn, says everything about the clubs position right now. I have always thought that loan players and most, not all, bought in younger players don't have the serious commitment both you and I like to see in a team, and that is where we are right now.
Fighting spirit as we both know is best home grown or from players who want to be here, or are looking at carving out a name for themselves, like Ritchie, so they get moved on to a higher positioned club. I totally agree that under performers should get a kick in the old Jacksie, and I do hope Cooper will do that. Lets face it, right now we are close to being a shambles, we have been found out and teams know what to do to stop us playing the way we want to. I'll bet Cloughie had a right go at half time and a few verbal salvo's in a few ears. The truth is we are easily beaten at the moment and struggled against a Stevenage side at home that we should have beaten easily in the first half. You should have second guessed todays performance before kick off, and to be honest I'm quite surprised you didn't.
I have the greatest respect for our traveling fan base, they are to be admired and acknowledged, and you are quite correct, should have witnessed players at least making an effort. I hope Cooper and Power are able to deal a bit in January, and maybe ship out some of the under performers. Yet again it seems a shake up is needed.
I accept that we are in a
This is not a pop or anything like that jock..
BUT are period of transition, will not be just this season as Mr Power has said with his plans regarding are budget..

So how long do you think we will be in this transition period..
Im hoping it is just this one but it dont sound like it does it mate
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: This season was always going to be about rebuilding. We lost away again at Sheff Utd, nothing new, and we were devoid of a plan B, nothing new either. By not raising your hopes and staying realistic its a good way of avoiding disapoint ment when we loose. Thats not negative, its just plain feet on the floor and take what comes. Its going to be a hard month, and when its over the January window will be open. Lets hope Power and Cooper can get in who they want, and we'll build from there. Top half finish, anything more will be a welcome bonus. Simply , we are not fit enough to be promtion candidates, yet.[/p][/quote]Wiz it's all very well to sit back and say we lost at Sheffield again and not to raise hopes and be realistic - easy to make glib remarks but not if you've just spent the best part of six hours travelling and spent not an inconsiderable amount of money in the process. For the record we were mostly poor today, with players like Mason and Kasim absolutely anonymous and MMatelot's & Newbury Mike's accounts echo my earlier postings. I accept that we are in a period of transition, that Cooper has few options regarding mixing things up , that despite some reservations finances appear to be under control, but what I can't accept is that we have some players who are spineless and don't want to wear the shirt. Pritchard can't tackle we know that - today he'd have had a job tackling a Mars bar and threw a his au fit when he was dispossessed and didn't get a free kick. When I go to a game I want to see my team show some fighting spirit some tenacity in the tackle and not the limp wristed give up the ghost attitude we've already seen too many times already this season. Make no mistake Blades were abysmal and we only succeeded in being their equal. The match stats showed that both sides had a total of 5 shots with 3 on target- which for us would include Pritchard's feeble late effort that was more of a back pass than a shot. The sarcastic " let's pretend we had a shot oooooohhh" summed up proceedings perfectly.[/p][/quote]Jock, I totally accept your sentiments and ambitions. That said, our performance reflects the standard of player we have which in turn, says everything about the clubs position right now. I have always thought that loan players and most, not all, bought in younger players don't have the serious commitment both you and I like to see in a team, and that is where we are right now. Fighting spirit as we both know is best home grown or from players who want to be here, or are looking at carving out a name for themselves, like Ritchie, so they get moved on to a higher positioned club. I totally agree that under performers should get a kick in the old Jacksie, and I do hope Cooper will do that. Lets face it, right now we are close to being a shambles, we have been found out and teams know what to do to stop us playing the way we want to. I'll bet Cloughie had a right go at half time and a few verbal salvo's in a few ears. The truth is we are easily beaten at the moment and struggled against a Stevenage side at home that we should have beaten easily in the first half. You should have second guessed todays performance before kick off, and to be honest I'm quite surprised you didn't. I have the greatest respect for our traveling fan base, they are to be admired and acknowledged, and you are quite correct, should have witnessed players at least making an effort. I hope Cooper and Power are able to deal a bit in January, and maybe ship out some of the under performers. Yet again it seems a shake up is needed.[/p][/quote]I accept that we are in a This is not a pop or anything like that jock.. BUT are period of transition, will not be just this season as Mr Power has said with his plans regarding are budget.. So how long do you think we will be in this transition period.. Im hoping it is just this one but it dont sound like it does it mate dazzastfc

3:42pm Sun 15 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

dazzler I agree I'm not one of those who thinks everything will be rosy on the apple tree after the end of this season I think we'll have a another couple of seasons of famine and even then who knows!
dazzler I agree I'm not one of those who thinks everything will be rosy on the apple tree after the end of this season I think we'll have a another couple of seasons of famine and even then who knows! The Jockster

4:31pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

mike1990 wrote:
Awful just not good enough Cooper and our very poor players,no desire,not much effort we just laid down and died to a poor Sheff Utd team,a Sheff fan shouted call yourselves footballers,none of you lot would get in our Sunday League team and that's both teams.those saying div1 is a tough league rubbish it's a cr*p league. Power got a lot of work on his hands to put a Promotion side together,cause most of our lot are just not up to it end of.
Agree Mike. It's a poor division. To be quite honest I think that's one of the reasons we're so high in the table. While we've won games with some good performances we've also beaten some very poor opposition and got out of jail on a few occasions. I haven't been to an away game yet this season. I take my hat off to those who went yesterday because I can't bring myself to make the effort when it's more likely than not that the players will perform like they did at Bramall Lane.

Cooper hasn't got the players to change a game so I don't see ho he's at fault . Better squad than last season?! Nowhere near it.
[quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: Awful just not good enough Cooper and our very poor players,no desire,not much effort we just laid down and died to a poor Sheff Utd team,a Sheff fan shouted call yourselves footballers,none of you lot would get in our Sunday League team and that's both teams.those saying div1 is a tough league rubbish it's a cr*p league. Power got a lot of work on his hands to put a Promotion side together,cause most of our lot are just not up to it end of.[/p][/quote]Agree Mike. It's a poor division. To be quite honest I think that's one of the reasons we're so high in the table. While we've won games with some good performances we've also beaten some very poor opposition and got out of jail on a few occasions. I haven't been to an away game yet this season. I take my hat off to those who went yesterday because I can't bring myself to make the effort when it's more likely than not that the players will perform like they did at Bramall Lane. Cooper hasn't got the players to change a game so I don't see ho he's at fault . Better squad than last season?! Nowhere near it. Oi Den!

6:37pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

I know I may get slated but a month ago many were complaining that we were conceding too many goals, especially away from home. We have changed and conceded one goal in two away games.

However we have now stopped creating the chances we did before. I accept that we probably played poorly yesterday (I can only go on posts from those that were there) but it does seem to me that if you tighten up at the back you often sacrifice the attacking part of your game.

COYMR
I know I may get slated but a month ago many were complaining that we were conceding too many goals, especially away from home. We have changed and conceded one goal in two away games. However we have now stopped creating the chances we did before. I accept that we probably played poorly yesterday (I can only go on posts from those that were there) but it does seem to me that if you tighten up at the back you often sacrifice the attacking part of your game. COYMR Oxon-Red

6:40pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Robinonfire says...

Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.
Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager. Robinonfire

6:54pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.
Taxi for Wes........ Lets get a real goalkeeper.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.[/p][/quote]Taxi for Wes........ Lets get a real goalkeeper. Oxon-Red

7:01pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.
We have a real manager. Give him the tools to do the job and then we'll be able to judge him properly. Power deserves the benefit of the doubt for the time being but sooner rather than later he's got to give his manager the chance to sign at least couple of solid no nonsense third tier players. Here's hoping they are the targets who've been identified.

Have you actually seen us play this season?
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.[/p][/quote]We have a real manager. Give him the tools to do the job and then we'll be able to judge him properly. Power deserves the benefit of the doubt for the time being but sooner rather than later he's got to give his manager the chance to sign at least couple of solid no nonsense third tier players. Here's hoping they are the targets who've been identified. Have you actually seen us play this season? Oi Den!

8:26pm Sun 15 Dec 13

ging999 says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.
Taxi for Wes........ Lets get a real goalkeeper.
Taxi for Robinonfire. Clueless.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Taxi for Cooper ...........come on Power get a real manager.[/p][/quote]Taxi for Wes........ Lets get a real goalkeeper.[/p][/quote]Taxi for Robinonfire. Clueless. ging999

9:41pm Sun 15 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

mike1990 wrote:
Awful just not good enough Cooper and our very poor players,no desire,not much effort we just laid down and died to a poor Sheff Utd team,a Sheff fan shouted call yourselves footballers,none of you lot would get in our Sunday League team and that's both teams.those saying div1 is a tough league rubbish it's a cr*p league. Power got a lot of work on his hands to put a Promotion side together,cause most of our lot are just not up to it end of.
This is the problem (in my eyes) with having so many loan players in the team...

YES THEY ARE GOOD PLAYERS but sometimes it looks and sounds like they don't wont to be here and don't care...
I know I don't go a lot these days but im just going by what I have seen and been told
[quote][p][bold]mike1990[/bold] wrote: Awful just not good enough Cooper and our very poor players,no desire,not much effort we just laid down and died to a poor Sheff Utd team,a Sheff fan shouted call yourselves footballers,none of you lot would get in our Sunday League team and that's both teams.those saying div1 is a tough league rubbish it's a cr*p league. Power got a lot of work on his hands to put a Promotion side together,cause most of our lot are just not up to it end of.[/p][/quote]This is the problem (in my eyes) with having so many loan players in the team... YES THEY ARE GOOD PLAYERS but sometimes it looks and sounds like they don't wont to be here and don't care... I know I don't go a lot these days but im just going by what I have seen and been told dazzastfc

9:46pm Sun 15 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

AT LEAST ARE NEXT 5 GAMES ARE EASY ?????
AT LEAST ARE NEXT 5 GAMES ARE EASY ????? dazzastfc

10:13pm Sun 15 Dec 13

joey butler says...

I quote Sam Morshead from just after the match,

'Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.'

Big Crisis time chaps and the people that think all is OK are quite simply deluded.. Their postings last night were frightening in just how complacent the armchair warriors have become.

By the end of January we might be facing relegation, without loan players and even Grim can see it coming, fair play to him.
I quote Sam Morshead from just after the match, 'Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.' Big Crisis time chaps and the people that think all is OK are quite simply deluded.. Their postings last night were frightening in just how complacent the armchair warriors have become. By the end of January we might be facing relegation, without loan players and even Grim can see it coming, fair play to him. joey butler

11:05pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

joey butler wrote:
I quote Sam Morshead from just after the match,

'Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.'

Big Crisis time chaps and the people that think all is OK are quite simply deluded.. Their postings last night were frightening in just how complacent the armchair warriors have become.

By the end of January we might be facing relegation, without loan players and even Grim can see it coming, fair play to him.
Joey,

We have been facing relegation since the start of the season according to some and in reality every club in the league at the start of the season faces relegation at that point. Would you like to swap with one of the favourites for promotion, with money to spend, that sits bottom or another with double our attendance that has just beaten us 1-0 in a game that neither team seemingly set the world on fire ?

Lose and we are going down, win and we are going up !. Is ther no mid point ?

Mid-table after a complete rebuild of the team and stability seemingly within the club. Add to that a possible trip to Wembley, don't care what anyone says but that, regardless of the competition, is special moment in any fans year Ask yourself when was the last time we played there and then ask Spurs, West Ham, and Newcastle fans the same question.

We are Swindon, we're 8th in the league and we are Swindon, we're still in the league.

Patience is what is needed, Fergie time maybe. We have a squad, including Ward, whose average age is under 23. Some are loanees, 4 or 5 I think, and will not be with us long term but some maybe. Many of the players are in there first full season and will be learning.

Some may think they are better than us, Parrett is a good example and I wonder, given his time again, if he would have reacted differently. IMO Play-offs would have been over achieving this season but like relegation they are also a possibility.

It's nearly Christmas and the young lads arer doing okay. I reckon the Life of Brian is more appropriate to Dads Army at the moment.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: I quote Sam Morshead from just after the match, 'Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.' Big Crisis time chaps and the people that think all is OK are quite simply deluded.. Their postings last night were frightening in just how complacent the armchair warriors have become. By the end of January we might be facing relegation, without loan players and even Grim can see it coming, fair play to him.[/p][/quote]Joey, We have been facing relegation since the start of the season according to some and in reality every club in the league at the start of the season faces relegation at that point. Would you like to swap with one of the favourites for promotion, with money to spend, that sits bottom or another with double our attendance that has just beaten us 1-0 in a game that neither team seemingly set the world on fire ? Lose and we are going down, win and we are going up !. Is ther no mid point ? Mid-table after a complete rebuild of the team and stability seemingly within the club. Add to that a possible trip to Wembley, don't care what anyone says but that, regardless of the competition, is special moment in any fans year Ask yourself when was the last time we played there and then ask Spurs, West Ham, and Newcastle fans the same question. We are Swindon, we're 8th in the league and we are Swindon, we're still in the league. Patience is what is needed, Fergie time maybe. We have a squad, including Ward, whose average age is under 23. Some are loanees, 4 or 5 I think, and will not be with us long term but some maybe. Many of the players are in there first full season and will be learning. Some may think they are better than us, Parrett is a good example and I wonder, given his time again, if he would have reacted differently. IMO Play-offs would have been over achieving this season but like relegation they are also a possibility. It's nearly Christmas and the young lads arer doing okay. I reckon the Life of Brian is more appropriate to Dads Army at the moment. COYMR Oxon-Red

11:27pm Sun 15 Dec 13

joey butler says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
joey butler wrote:
I quote Sam Morshead from just after the match,

'Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.'

Big Crisis time chaps and the people that think all is OK are quite simply deluded.. Their postings last night were frightening in just how complacent the armchair warriors have become.

By the end of January we might be facing relegation, without loan players and even Grim can see it coming, fair play to him.
Joey,

We have been facing relegation since the start of the season according to some and in reality every club in the league at the start of the season faces relegation at that point. Would you like to swap with one of the favourites for promotion, with money to spend, that sits bottom or another with double our attendance that has just beaten us 1-0 in a game that neither team seemingly set the world on fire ?

Lose and we are going down, win and we are going up !. Is ther no mid point ?

Mid-table after a complete rebuild of the team and stability seemingly within the club. Add to that a possible trip to Wembley, don't care what anyone says but that, regardless of the competition, is special moment in any fans year Ask yourself when was the last time we played there and then ask Spurs, West Ham, and Newcastle fans the same question.

We are Swindon, we're 8th in the league and we are Swindon, we're still in the league.

Patience is what is needed, Fergie time maybe. We have a squad, including Ward, whose average age is under 23. Some are loanees, 4 or 5 I think, and will not be with us long term but some maybe. Many of the players are in there first full season and will be learning.

Some may think they are better than us, Parrett is a good example and I wonder, given his time again, if he would have reacted differently. IMO Play-offs would have been over achieving this season but like relegation they are also a possibility.

It's nearly Christmas and the young lads arer doing okay. I reckon the Life of Brian is more appropriate to Dads Army at the moment.

COYMR
Sorry Oxon,

But you have totally ignored the comments of Sam Morshead in particular and indeed the recently positive Grim over the weekend, I would be interested in your thoughts on those please?

I also take account of several detailed comments from other posters, who were at the game yesterday, which to the best of my knowledge, you were not.

The absolute lack of commitment from most of our players at Sheffield cannot be ignored, can it?

The totally complacent outlook of others Saturday night and Sunday is just frightening and so much could go wrong in the next six weeks, I just hope I am wrong Oxon.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: I quote Sam Morshead from just after the match, 'Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.' Big Crisis time chaps and the people that think all is OK are quite simply deluded.. Their postings last night were frightening in just how complacent the armchair warriors have become. By the end of January we might be facing relegation, without loan players and even Grim can see it coming, fair play to him.[/p][/quote]Joey, We have been facing relegation since the start of the season according to some and in reality every club in the league at the start of the season faces relegation at that point. Would you like to swap with one of the favourites for promotion, with money to spend, that sits bottom or another with double our attendance that has just beaten us 1-0 in a game that neither team seemingly set the world on fire ? Lose and we are going down, win and we are going up !. Is ther no mid point ? Mid-table after a complete rebuild of the team and stability seemingly within the club. Add to that a possible trip to Wembley, don't care what anyone says but that, regardless of the competition, is special moment in any fans year Ask yourself when was the last time we played there and then ask Spurs, West Ham, and Newcastle fans the same question. We are Swindon, we're 8th in the league and we are Swindon, we're still in the league. Patience is what is needed, Fergie time maybe. We have a squad, including Ward, whose average age is under 23. Some are loanees, 4 or 5 I think, and will not be with us long term but some maybe. Many of the players are in there first full season and will be learning. Some may think they are better than us, Parrett is a good example and I wonder, given his time again, if he would have reacted differently. IMO Play-offs would have been over achieving this season but like relegation they are also a possibility. It's nearly Christmas and the young lads arer doing okay. I reckon the Life of Brian is more appropriate to Dads Army at the moment. COYMR[/p][/quote]Sorry Oxon, But you have totally ignored the comments of Sam Morshead in particular and indeed the recently positive Grim over the weekend, I would be interested in your thoughts on those please? I also take account of several detailed comments from other posters, who were at the game yesterday, which to the best of my knowledge, you were not. The absolute lack of commitment from most of our players at Sheffield cannot be ignored, can it? The totally complacent outlook of others Saturday night and Sunday is just frightening and so much could go wrong in the next six weeks, I just hope I am wrong Oxon. joey butler

12:29pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

Joey,

I find Sam's comments OTT at times and some of his headlines very sensationalist. Today's "Cooper unhappy..." being one where he has probably asked a leading question about the chants and heard a word, if the quote is correct he didn't say unhappy.

I was not there so cannot comment on the game but I would not start predicting a relegation battle because of a loss, which seems to happen each time.

I identified in an earlier post the change in formation to become tighter at the back. This requires sacrifices going forward. It maybe just a case of finding the right balance between the two.

I appreciate the disappointment from those that went but looking at the stats Sheffield were equally poor in the creative department and the two sides cancelled themselves out.

Relegation battle by end of January, IMO no because that would mean losing virtually every match between now and then. Possible of course but not in my view.

COYMR
Joey, I find Sam's comments OTT at times and some of his headlines very sensationalist. Today's "Cooper unhappy..." being one where he has probably asked a leading question about the chants and heard a word, if the quote is correct he didn't say unhappy. I was not there so cannot comment on the game but I would not start predicting a relegation battle because of a loss, which seems to happen each time. I identified in an earlier post the change in formation to become tighter at the back. This requires sacrifices going forward. It maybe just a case of finding the right balance between the two. I appreciate the disappointment from those that went but looking at the stats Sheffield were equally poor in the creative department and the two sides cancelled themselves out. Relegation battle by end of January, IMO no because that would mean losing virtually every match between now and then. Possible of course but not in my view. COYMR Oxon-Red

2:37pm Mon 16 Dec 13

joey butler says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Joey,

I find Sam's comments OTT at times and some of his headlines very sensationalist. Today's "Cooper unhappy..." being one where he has probably asked a leading question about the chants and heard a word, if the quote is correct he didn't say unhappy.

I was not there so cannot comment on the game but I would not start predicting a relegation battle because of a loss, which seems to happen each time.

I identified in an earlier post the change in formation to become tighter at the back. This requires sacrifices going forward. It maybe just a case of finding the right balance between the two.

I appreciate the disappointment from those that went but looking at the stats Sheffield were equally poor in the creative department and the two sides cancelled themselves out.

Relegation battle by end of January, IMO no because that would mean losing virtually every match between now and then. Possible of course but not in my view.

COYMR
Thank you for your further post Oxon and I understand what you are saying much better now,

I think I am mixing two seperate issues, firstly our poor performance at Sheffield, which I guess is best accepted as water under the bridge now and hopefully performances will improve again over the next few weeks.

But secondly, our vulnerability in the transfer market in January, with loanees situations up in the air and the fear that our squad could be depleted by the end of January. Just taking Ajose as one example, Mark Cooper has already referred to his loan ending and the need to 'cut our cloth'. There is then the uncertainty about the Tottenham loanees and if other teams will come in and sign them permanently.

Plenty to be nervous about, but if we are still near the play offs at the end of January, I guess the majority will be very pleased, including me!!
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Joey, I find Sam's comments OTT at times and some of his headlines very sensationalist. Today's "Cooper unhappy..." being one where he has probably asked a leading question about the chants and heard a word, if the quote is correct he didn't say unhappy. I was not there so cannot comment on the game but I would not start predicting a relegation battle because of a loss, which seems to happen each time. I identified in an earlier post the change in formation to become tighter at the back. This requires sacrifices going forward. It maybe just a case of finding the right balance between the two. I appreciate the disappointment from those that went but looking at the stats Sheffield were equally poor in the creative department and the two sides cancelled themselves out. Relegation battle by end of January, IMO no because that would mean losing virtually every match between now and then. Possible of course but not in my view. COYMR[/p][/quote]Thank you for your further post Oxon and I understand what you are saying much better now, I think I am mixing two seperate issues, firstly our poor performance at Sheffield, which I guess is best accepted as water under the bridge now and hopefully performances will improve again over the next few weeks. But secondly, our vulnerability in the transfer market in January, with loanees situations up in the air and the fear that our squad could be depleted by the end of January. Just taking Ajose as one example, Mark Cooper has already referred to his loan ending and the need to 'cut our cloth'. There is then the uncertainty about the Tottenham loanees and if other teams will come in and sign them permanently. Plenty to be nervous about, but if we are still near the play offs at the end of January, I guess the majority will be very pleased, including me!! joey butler

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