SHEFFIELD UTD 1 SWINDON TOWN 0: Full-time report

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SWINDON Town slipped to a 1-0 defeat at Sheffield United in League One this afternoon.

Jose Baxter’s second-half header was enough to separate the sides at Bramall Lane, as an encouraging first-half performance from Swindon was completely undone by a miserable display after the break.

Town had to withstand an early period of pressure in the opening exchanges, with Wes Foderingham saving from Tony McMahon and Grant Hall’s head getting between Baxter’s free-kick and an early lead for the Blades.

It took until the 37th minute for Swindon to muster a shot at goal but in the final exchanges of the first period the visitors edged into the ascendancy.

Ryan Mason and Nicky Ajose saw their efforts saved by George Long in the Blades goal, while Hall’s overhead kick landed on the roof of the net as the Robins began to show their class.

The interval aided United, who came out for the second half with renewed fervour. Baxter’s fizzing attempt was pushed to safety by Foderingham in the 51st minute before a combination of Jay McEveley and Chris Porter diverted the ball gently onto a post 60 seconds later.

Swindon survived a scare in the 63rd minute when referee Duncan seemed to penalise Foderingham for keeping hold of the ball for too long, as United fluffed the free-kick right on the edge of the box.

However, parity was looking increasingly fragile and so it proved with 23 minutes remaining.

Town couldn’t compete in a game of head tennis inside their own area and Baxter rose highest to loop his header over Foderingham. It was a deserved lead for a Blades outfit who outfought their guests throughout the second half.

Such was the pathetic nature of Swindon’s attempts to get back into the game, fans in the away end resorted to celebrating make believe shots at goal in the second period. It was a damning indictment of a lacklustre period of football.

Massimo Luongo dragged wide and Pritchard’s tame effort was easy for Long to save in the dying minutes, as Town went out with a whimper.

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5:27pm Sat 14 Dec 13

bluesharpbob says...

Sounds like a very insipid away from home display. But being 8th with a very inexperienced side is not disastrous at Christmas.
Sounds like a very insipid away from home display. But being 8th with a very inexperienced side is not disastrous at Christmas. bluesharpbob

5:57pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stfc2012 says...

The problem is there is no plan b or c. We obviously need a striker. When we play nice football it only gets us so far unless it has purpose - otherwise it is completely pointless and even poor teams can take their time and figure us out. Our passing game has little purpose despite being able to pat ourselves on the back and say we play 'the proper way'. Unfortunately it is not that simple and these lads are finding out the hard way. Despite all of our apparent skill it seems that experience counts for much more at this level, and it is this that we lack. Kasim has not been great for a while now. While others say it may be as he has a long contract signed, I would argue it is simply that he is not as good as his early form suggested. He did look good shielding the defence, this much is true. But us fans get carried away, especially when the management are parading this as a genuine diamond found from nowhere. So we shouldn't get carried away with his lack of form either, but I do think if that if it is true someone tried to pay us 400k for him shortly after signing, then that looks a good deal now. I feel a settled side needs to grow together, and a team based around loan players will never get that harmony as we are all aware it is only a matter of time until they move on. Power stated that he wants to exploit the loan market as much as possible, but I feel it will backfire unless they are season long or similar. Loans are good for filling a gap or 2 within a unit missing a small dynamic, but not the answer to creating your vision - especially when they probably all have to play each game if they are fit due to the loan agreement. We'd be far better off doing a bit more scouting rather than just relying on Sherwood and Spurs. We could then find players to be part of our plan and inspire them to help us succeed and not just fill in with the best of what Spurs have. Sherwood's shop window means players that would not normally be worth much suddenly increase their value for Spurs while playing for us and are then at risk of being sold at xmas leaving us needing a new player while Spurs make extra dosh that would otherwise be lost. We are then resigned to picking the best free or loan players we can get hold of but it can stifle progress. All this self sustainable business is great but it cant be used as an excuse for not actually BUYING any players (and that doesn't include giving Spurs 50p for a player then paying them the 400k that we report in the press it 'cost' us when/if they are sold for profit).
We need someone 'in charge' that can actual affect the game as it is going on. God bless Cooper, but he's not the calibre we need. He was managing kick and shunt teams before suddenly starting to play the passing game he's been told to play now. That's all well and good when it's going right but he doesn't have the cahunas to make proper footballing decisions during a game, as the 'Swindon way' has been pre-determined. People will say ' we had **** amount of points this time last year' or 'we are only 4 points off the play-offs' - this is true. But we have no passion running through that team from top to bottom and it all just feels a bit 'meh'. I predict 4/5 changes in players over Jan - possibly more, yet this still won't get us in the play-offs. We let in 39 goals all of last season - currently on 26. We lost 12 all season - currently 8. Not even xmas yet....
The problem is there is no plan b or c. We obviously need a striker. When we play nice football it only gets us so far unless it has purpose - otherwise it is completely pointless and even poor teams can take their time and figure us out. Our passing game has little purpose despite being able to pat ourselves on the back and say we play 'the proper way'. Unfortunately it is not that simple and these lads are finding out the hard way. Despite all of our apparent skill it seems that experience counts for much more at this level, and it is this that we lack. Kasim has not been great for a while now. While others say it may be as he has a long contract signed, I would argue it is simply that he is not as good as his early form suggested. He did look good shielding the defence, this much is true. But us fans get carried away, especially when the management are parading this as a genuine diamond found from nowhere. So we shouldn't get carried away with his lack of form either, but I do think if that if it is true someone tried to pay us 400k for him shortly after signing, then that looks a good deal now. I feel a settled side needs to grow together, and a team based around loan players will never get that harmony as we are all aware it is only a matter of time until they move on. Power stated that he wants to exploit the loan market as much as possible, but I feel it will backfire unless they are season long or similar. Loans are good for filling a gap or 2 within a unit missing a small dynamic, but not the answer to creating your vision - especially when they probably all have to play each game if they are fit due to the loan agreement. We'd be far better off doing a bit more scouting rather than just relying on Sherwood and Spurs. We could then find players to be part of our plan and inspire them to help us succeed and not just fill in with the best of what Spurs have. Sherwood's shop window means players that would not normally be worth much suddenly increase their value for Spurs while playing for us and are then at risk of being sold at xmas leaving us needing a new player while Spurs make extra dosh that would otherwise be lost. We are then resigned to picking the best free or loan players we can get hold of but it can stifle progress. All this self sustainable business is great but it cant be used as an excuse for not actually BUYING any players (and that doesn't include giving Spurs 50p for a player then paying them the 400k that we report in the press it 'cost' us when/if they are sold for profit). We need someone 'in charge' that can actual affect the game as it is going on. God bless Cooper, but he's not the calibre we need. He was managing kick and shunt teams before suddenly starting to play the passing game he's been told to play now. That's all well and good when it's going right but he doesn't have the cahunas to make proper footballing decisions during a game, as the 'Swindon way' has been pre-determined. People will say ' we had **** amount of points this time last year' or 'we are only 4 points off the play-offs' - this is true. But we have no passion running through that team from top to bottom and it all just feels a bit 'meh'. I predict 4/5 changes in players over Jan - possibly more, yet this still won't get us in the play-offs. We let in 39 goals all of last season - currently on 26. We lost 12 all season - currently 8. Not even xmas yet.... stfc2012

7:46am Sun 15 Dec 13

LionelHutz says...

The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition? LionelHutz

11:29am Sun 15 Dec 13

who am i says...

LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.
[quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration. who am i

11:42am Sun 15 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
Can't agree with that at all. Bad language aside, I thought they were a credit to the Club. A variety of positive vocal support for the team, for Cooper, for Jay McEverley etc.

Yes, they had a bit of a laugh in the second half. If you pay best part of £50 for a day out, you deserve a bit of a laugh and there was no joy coming from the pitch in the second half.

I would imagine that the Town has got some of the best away support in League 1 and probably better than most Championship sides.
[quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that at all. Bad language aside, I thought they were a credit to the Club. A variety of positive vocal support for the team, for Cooper, for Jay McEverley etc. Yes, they had a bit of a laugh in the second half. If you pay best part of £50 for a day out, you deserve a bit of a laugh and there was no joy coming from the pitch in the second half. I would imagine that the Town has got some of the best away support in League 1 and probably better than most Championship sides. mancrobin

12:17pm Sun 15 Dec 13

LionelHutz says...

mancrobin wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
Can't agree with that at all. Bad language aside, I thought they were a credit to the Club. A variety of positive vocal support for the team, for Cooper, for Jay McEverley etc.

Yes, they had a bit of a laugh in the second half. If you pay best part of £50 for a day out, you deserve a bit of a laugh and there was no joy coming from the pitch in the second half.

I would imagine that the Town has got some of the best away support in League 1 and probably better than most Championship sides.
Swindon were only 1-0 down. Surely it would have been better to get behind the team rather than the constant ironic chanting and singing.

I also spent a lot of time and money travelling up on the coach and I agree we have good away support, but the kind of support we had yesterday is counter productive in my opinion.

When the team are playing badly, as they did in the second half yesterday, the fans should try and lift them.
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that at all. Bad language aside, I thought they were a credit to the Club. A variety of positive vocal support for the team, for Cooper, for Jay McEverley etc. Yes, they had a bit of a laugh in the second half. If you pay best part of £50 for a day out, you deserve a bit of a laugh and there was no joy coming from the pitch in the second half. I would imagine that the Town has got some of the best away support in League 1 and probably better than most Championship sides.[/p][/quote]Swindon were only 1-0 down. Surely it would have been better to get behind the team rather than the constant ironic chanting and singing. I also spent a lot of time and money travelling up on the coach and I agree we have good away support, but the kind of support we had yesterday is counter productive in my opinion. When the team are playing badly, as they did in the second half yesterday, the fans should try and lift them. LionelHutz

1:38pm Sun 15 Dec 13

street2000 says...

who am i wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.
STFU. You ain't gotta clue! You try the long jaunt for nothing and see how you feel !
[quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.[/p][/quote]STFU. You ain't gotta clue! You try the long jaunt for nothing and see how you feel ! street2000

1:38pm Sun 15 Dec 13

street2000 says...

who am i wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.
STFU. You ain't gotta clue! You try the long jaunt for nothing and see how you feel !
[quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.[/p][/quote]STFU. You ain't gotta clue! You try the long jaunt for nothing and see how you feel ! street2000

1:54pm Sun 15 Dec 13

LionelHutz says...

street2000 wrote:
who am i wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.
STFU. You ain't gotta clue! You try the long jaunt for nothing and see how you feel !
As previously stated, I did go yesterday and have expressed my opinion on the way our fans 'supported' the team.

No problem with people showing their displeasure at the end of the game, but when we're only a goal down they should get behind the team.
[quote][p][bold]street2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]Your talking total ballocks we traveled three and a half on the coach to watch a team have two shots at goal all second half and that was only after we were chanting to shoot. I'm sorry to say cooper hasn't got a clue on how to change a game. We were pathetic second half united was there for the taking but cooper didn't have a clue on how to go about it. The fans have a right to show their frustration.[/p][/quote]STFU. You ain't gotta clue! You try the long jaunt for nothing and see how you feel ![/p][/quote]As previously stated, I did go yesterday and have expressed my opinion on the way our fans 'supported' the team. No problem with people showing their displeasure at the end of the game, but when we're only a goal down they should get behind the team. LionelHutz

5:10pm Sun 15 Dec 13

agifos says...

I also was there I dont believe any of the fans were just negative about the players just showing that the system is very hard to watch against a less than average opposition when the end result was still defeat I like to pay my money and watch us have a go we were so flat across the middle there was no forward ball their defenders faced our goal the whole match and had an easy ride I dont remember us having a player caught offside during the game . This was carbon copy of the garbage I watched at crawley not the wonderful stuff I watched at wolves if we continue to play this negative people will not turn up to watch win if you can at all cost but not just get 1 point at all cost please .
I also was there I dont believe any of the fans were just negative about the players just showing that the system is very hard to watch against a less than average opposition when the end result was still defeat I like to pay my money and watch us have a go we were so flat across the middle there was no forward ball their defenders faced our goal the whole match and had an easy ride I dont remember us having a player caught offside during the game . This was carbon copy of the garbage I watched at crawley not the wonderful stuff I watched at wolves if we continue to play this negative people will not turn up to watch win if you can at all cost but not just get 1 point at all cost please . agifos

6:33pm Sun 15 Dec 13

MoonrakerMatelot says...

LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
This uneducated type of comment shows little understanding of what it's like to follow your team on the road and get no reward. Several hundred Town faithful made a 400 mile round trip at considerable expense to witness a dire, lack luster performance. There was nothing "disgraceful" about the support yesterday. There was nothing vindictive, no booing, no calling for Cooper's head or individuals being singled out for any abuse. The singing and chanting was some of the wittiest, self deprecating sarcastic humour in the face of utter abjection I've been happy to be part of and it helped to lift the mood on an otherwise cold, dark night in Yorkshire.
[quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]This uneducated type of comment shows little understanding of what it's like to follow your team on the road and get no reward. Several hundred Town faithful made a 400 mile round trip at considerable expense to witness a dire, lack luster performance. There was nothing "disgraceful" about the support yesterday. There was nothing vindictive, no booing, no calling for Cooper's head or individuals being singled out for any abuse. The singing and chanting was some of the wittiest, self deprecating sarcastic humour in the face of utter abjection I've been happy to be part of and it helped to lift the mood on an otherwise cold, dark night in Yorkshire. MoonrakerMatelot

6:47pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Cleuso says...

stfc2012 wrote:
The problem is there is no plan b or c. We obviously need a striker. When we play nice football it only gets us so far unless it has purpose - otherwise it is completely pointless and even poor teams can take their time and figure us out. Our passing game has little purpose despite being able to pat ourselves on the back and say we play 'the proper way'. Unfortunately it is not that simple and these lads are finding out the hard way. Despite all of our apparent skill it seems that experience counts for much more at this level, and it is this that we lack. Kasim has not been great for a while now. While others say it may be as he has a long contract signed, I would argue it is simply that he is not as good as his early form suggested. He did look good shielding the defence, this much is true. But us fans get carried away, especially when the management are parading this as a genuine diamond found from nowhere. So we shouldn't get carried away with his lack of form either, but I do think if that if it is true someone tried to pay us 400k for him shortly after signing, then that looks a good deal now. I feel a settled side needs to grow together, and a team based around loan players will never get that harmony as we are all aware it is only a matter of time until they move on. Power stated that he wants to exploit the loan market as much as possible, but I feel it will backfire unless they are season long or similar. Loans are good for filling a gap or 2 within a unit missing a small dynamic, but not the answer to creating your vision - especially when they probably all have to play each game if they are fit due to the loan agreement. We'd be far better off doing a bit more scouting rather than just relying on Sherwood and Spurs. We could then find players to be part of our plan and inspire them to help us succeed and not just fill in with the best of what Spurs have. Sherwood's shop window means players that would not normally be worth much suddenly increase their value for Spurs while playing for us and are then at risk of being sold at xmas leaving us needing a new player while Spurs make extra dosh that would otherwise be lost. We are then resigned to picking the best free or loan players we can get hold of but it can stifle progress. All this self sustainable business is great but it cant be used as an excuse for not actually BUYING any players (and that doesn't include giving Spurs 50p for a player then paying them the 400k that we report in the press it 'cost' us when/if they are sold for profit).
We need someone 'in charge' that can actual affect the game as it is going on. God bless Cooper, but he's not the calibre we need. He was managing kick and shunt teams before suddenly starting to play the passing game he's been told to play now. That's all well and good when it's going right but he doesn't have the cahunas to make proper footballing decisions during a game, as the 'Swindon way' has been pre-determined. People will say ' we had **** amount of points this time last year' or 'we are only 4 points off the play-offs' - this is true. But we have no passion running through that team from top to bottom and it all just feels a bit 'meh'. I predict 4/5 changes in players over Jan - possibly more, yet this still won't get us in the play-offs. We let in 39 goals all of last season - currently on 26. We lost 12 all season - currently 8. Not even xmas yet....
The world "order" as declared by STFC 2012 ..They are everywhere spouting their views today........ yawn yawn ..... anyone would think their expectation runs and has a plan D when all the rest fail thus making STFC being world beaters and have plans going from A to Z to ensure that.... we are not and we have never been world beaters who don't lose games, ..we win games at home we lose games away over history that's the evidence and nothing despite STFC 2012 wanting plan b, c, and d..... just be grateful you are not waking up today as one of those North London premiership monied giants who despite their apparent riches shipped 11 goals this weekend...They probably had about 37 plans between them with all their contnental experience and influence and that still didn't help them.

Of course we will be signing free or loan players ..thanks Bosman and agents, but that's the way of the world these days not the fault of individual clubs/ managers or owners .

Trouble is those that always clamour for change does not guarantee future success .... the list of managers called for down the road at Ashton Gate proves that as they stumble from crisis to crisis on the next best thing to sliced bread..trouble for them is that the team just end up getting toasted week after week.

Using cricket as an example the shambles of England at the moment stems back to the clamour to oust Compton as the opener...to accommodate Root in that berth..all of a sudden the successful organised side has turned to a shambles..when Root failed as an opener then the side got shuffled again to put him in else where.. thus causing chaos and further changes and seemingly the team is going , downwards..world number 1 to ashes whipping boy all in 18 months..where are those demanding that change at the time... moaning now about the current level of performance

Sometimes its best just to stick with and support what you have...looking for and demanding alternatives are not guaranteed to be better or successful and if you can't be bothered to support then be prepared for further decline - that too is the way of the world.

Our current squad and management team have had less than 4 months together..whatever the future that is really hardly enough time to decide whether it will be successful or otherwise, despite the relegation certainties tag some gave the club pre season , its not been that bad and despite the sooth sayers claiming we are still heading that way.

There will be good and bad in equal installments longevity of support will confirm that....and short term events (games) are just that ..short term and despite the obvious disappointment when you lose 1-0 with a poor performance... its not the end of the world ..... pots of money, world wide influence and the "best" players still doesn't guarantee sides wont get beat 6-3 or 5-0.... that's football !
[quote][p][bold]stfc2012[/bold] wrote: The problem is there is no plan b or c. We obviously need a striker. When we play nice football it only gets us so far unless it has purpose - otherwise it is completely pointless and even poor teams can take their time and figure us out. Our passing game has little purpose despite being able to pat ourselves on the back and say we play 'the proper way'. Unfortunately it is not that simple and these lads are finding out the hard way. Despite all of our apparent skill it seems that experience counts for much more at this level, and it is this that we lack. Kasim has not been great for a while now. While others say it may be as he has a long contract signed, I would argue it is simply that he is not as good as his early form suggested. He did look good shielding the defence, this much is true. But us fans get carried away, especially when the management are parading this as a genuine diamond found from nowhere. So we shouldn't get carried away with his lack of form either, but I do think if that if it is true someone tried to pay us 400k for him shortly after signing, then that looks a good deal now. I feel a settled side needs to grow together, and a team based around loan players will never get that harmony as we are all aware it is only a matter of time until they move on. Power stated that he wants to exploit the loan market as much as possible, but I feel it will backfire unless they are season long or similar. Loans are good for filling a gap or 2 within a unit missing a small dynamic, but not the answer to creating your vision - especially when they probably all have to play each game if they are fit due to the loan agreement. We'd be far better off doing a bit more scouting rather than just relying on Sherwood and Spurs. We could then find players to be part of our plan and inspire them to help us succeed and not just fill in with the best of what Spurs have. Sherwood's shop window means players that would not normally be worth much suddenly increase their value for Spurs while playing for us and are then at risk of being sold at xmas leaving us needing a new player while Spurs make extra dosh that would otherwise be lost. We are then resigned to picking the best free or loan players we can get hold of but it can stifle progress. All this self sustainable business is great but it cant be used as an excuse for not actually BUYING any players (and that doesn't include giving Spurs 50p for a player then paying them the 400k that we report in the press it 'cost' us when/if they are sold for profit). We need someone 'in charge' that can actual affect the game as it is going on. God bless Cooper, but he's not the calibre we need. He was managing kick and shunt teams before suddenly starting to play the passing game he's been told to play now. That's all well and good when it's going right but he doesn't have the cahunas to make proper footballing decisions during a game, as the 'Swindon way' has been pre-determined. People will say ' we had **** amount of points this time last year' or 'we are only 4 points off the play-offs' - this is true. But we have no passion running through that team from top to bottom and it all just feels a bit 'meh'. I predict 4/5 changes in players over Jan - possibly more, yet this still won't get us in the play-offs. We let in 39 goals all of last season - currently on 26. We lost 12 all season - currently 8. Not even xmas yet....[/p][/quote]The world "order" as declared by STFC 2012 ..They are everywhere spouting their views today........ yawn yawn ..... anyone would think their expectation runs and has a plan D when all the rest fail thus making STFC being world beaters and have plans going from A to Z to ensure that.... we are not and we have never been world beaters who don't lose games, ..we win games at home we lose games away over history that's the evidence and nothing despite STFC 2012 wanting plan b, c, and d..... just be grateful you are not waking up today as one of those North London premiership monied giants who despite their apparent riches shipped 11 goals this weekend...They probably had about 37 plans between them with all their contnental experience and influence and that still didn't help them. Of course we will be signing free or loan players ..thanks Bosman and agents, but that's the way of the world these days not the fault of individual clubs/ managers or owners . Trouble is those that always clamour for change does not guarantee future success .... the list of managers called for down the road at Ashton Gate proves that as they stumble from crisis to crisis on the next best thing to sliced bread..trouble for them is that the team just end up getting toasted week after week. Using cricket as an example the shambles of England at the moment stems back to the clamour to oust Compton as the opener...to accommodate Root in that berth..all of a sudden the successful organised side has turned to a shambles..when Root failed as an opener then the side got shuffled again to put him in else where.. thus causing chaos and further changes and seemingly the team is going , downwards..world number 1 to ashes whipping boy all in 18 months..where are those demanding that change at the time... moaning now about the current level of performance Sometimes its best just to stick with and support what you have...looking for and demanding alternatives are not guaranteed to be better or successful and if you can't be bothered to support then be prepared for further decline - that too is the way of the world. Our current squad and management team have had less than 4 months together..whatever the future that is really hardly enough time to decide whether it will be successful or otherwise, despite the relegation certainties tag some gave the club pre season , its not been that bad and despite the sooth sayers claiming we are still heading that way. There will be good and bad in equal installments longevity of support will confirm that....and short term events (games) are just that ..short term and despite the obvious disappointment when you lose 1-0 with a poor performance... its not the end of the world ..... pots of money, world wide influence and the "best" players still doesn't guarantee sides wont get beat 6-3 or 5-0.... that's football ! Cleuso

7:33pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

All true Cleuso. I maintain that Power got it wrong in the summer though. It wouldn't have cost a sack of money to add some steel and experience to the undisputed skill and flair we have on the books.
All true Cleuso. I maintain that Power got it wrong in the summer though. It wouldn't have cost a sack of money to add some steel and experience to the undisputed skill and flair we have on the books. Oi Den!

7:44pm Sun 15 Dec 13

LionelHutz says...

MoonrakerMatelot wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?
This uneducated type of comment shows little understanding of what it's like to follow your team on the road and get no reward. Several hundred Town faithful made a 400 mile round trip at considerable expense to witness a dire, lack luster performance. There was nothing "disgraceful" about the support yesterday. There was nothing vindictive, no booing, no calling for Cooper's head or individuals being singled out for any abuse. The singing and chanting was some of the wittiest, self deprecating sarcastic humour in the face of utter abjection I've been happy to be part of and it helped to lift the mood on an otherwise cold, dark night in Yorkshire.
I've been to all bar two games, home and away, this season and have followed the Town for 30 years. I think I'm more qualified than most to know what it's like to travel away to see an abject performance.

I stand by my comment that a small minority of our supporters were a disgrace yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]MoonrakerMatelot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LionelHutz[/bold] wrote: The fans were a disgrace. With support like that, who needs the opposition?[/p][/quote]This uneducated type of comment shows little understanding of what it's like to follow your team on the road and get no reward. Several hundred Town faithful made a 400 mile round trip at considerable expense to witness a dire, lack luster performance. There was nothing "disgraceful" about the support yesterday. There was nothing vindictive, no booing, no calling for Cooper's head or individuals being singled out for any abuse. The singing and chanting was some of the wittiest, self deprecating sarcastic humour in the face of utter abjection I've been happy to be part of and it helped to lift the mood on an otherwise cold, dark night in Yorkshire.[/p][/quote]I've been to all bar two games, home and away, this season and have followed the Town for 30 years. I think I'm more qualified than most to know what it's like to travel away to see an abject performance. I stand by my comment that a small minority of our supporters were a disgrace yesterday. LionelHutz

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