Swindon AdvertiserCooper ruing what might have been for Swindon (From Swindon Advertiser)

Get involved! Send photos, video, news & views. Text SWINDON NEWS to 80360 or email us

Cooper ruing what might have been for Swindon

Swindon Advertiser: Mark Cooper Mark Cooper

MANAGER Mark Cooper branded Swindon Town’s last four weeks as a “month of maybes” after watching his dominant Robins side held to a 1-1 draw at Crewe Alexandra on Saturday.

Having put themselves within touching distance of the League One play-offs at the turn of the year, Town have now won just once in seven league games, as well as being dumped out of the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy at the area final stage, and are winless since beating Port Vale 3-2 on February 8.

That stretch without a victory is now up to five games, despite a much improved performance at Gresty Road where Swindon entertained with fluent, attacking football only to be pegged back by Vadaine Oliver’s strike for Alex after Ryan Harley had fired the visitors ahead.

Reflecting on his team’s failure to pick up all three points and a difficult spell in their season, Cooper remained philosophical, saying: “It’s the story of the last month of maybes but whatever happens between now and the end of the season, we want to finish as strong as we can and play like we did today to set us up for wherever we are next season.

“I’m sure the fans went away today thinking we played really well.

“They were really good today; they got behind the team as away fans usually do.

“The only thing missing was a goal to finish the game which, let’s be honest, should have been all over.”

When it was suggested by the Advertiser that his players produced their improved display in response to notions this week that Town’s play-off challenge is all but over, Cooper said: “They certainly don’t think it’s all over.

“Maybe the pressure is off and it’s always easier to play a little bit when the pressure’s off but the players put pressure on themselves, they want to go and win.

“They’ll keep going and if we win 12 games we’ll get promoted.”

Comments (88)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

6:57am Mon 3 Mar 14

U REDS says...

A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.
A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either. U REDS
  • Score: -2

7:31am Mon 3 Mar 14

Since 1950 says...

".....to set us up for wherever we are next season". There is the worry. All this season's efforts in playing good football and trying to build an ethos on how the game should be played is all for nought. Half the players won't be here next season. Do we start all over again or play to the strengths of the players we manage to beg, steal or borrow?
Still a better season than I predicted even if we finish outside the top 10.
COYR!
".....to set us up for wherever we are next season". There is the worry. All this season's efforts in playing good football and trying to build an ethos on how the game should be played is all for nought. Half the players won't be here next season. Do we start all over again or play to the strengths of the players we manage to beg, steal or borrow? Still a better season than I predicted even if we finish outside the top 10. COYR! Since 1950
  • Score: 13

7:40am Mon 3 Mar 14

LeGod says...

Mr Cooper Crewe had 8 players out so we should have dominated and won the game but as usual we sat back when we were a goal up. We have no threat up front whatsoever and we have relied on one player all season who is now out injured for the season. Worryingly we have the top sides to play so if we cant beat the bottom sides what chance against these sides.
We have absolutely thrown points away against poor sides we should be beating especially at home.
Its currently frustrating being a town fan as im sure alot think we could have got more than the points tally we currently have if we had made the rights changes tactically before and during games.
I was against cooper from the start of the season and have praised him for what he had done up to about three months ago but now i am finding him irritatingly boring with his same old answers and negative tactics.
Mr Cooper Crewe had 8 players out so we should have dominated and won the game but as usual we sat back when we were a goal up. We have no threat up front whatsoever and we have relied on one player all season who is now out injured for the season. Worryingly we have the top sides to play so if we cant beat the bottom sides what chance against these sides. We have absolutely thrown points away against poor sides we should be beating especially at home. Its currently frustrating being a town fan as im sure alot think we could have got more than the points tally we currently have if we had made the rights changes tactically before and during games. I was against cooper from the start of the season and have praised him for what he had done up to about three months ago but now i am finding him irritatingly boring with his same old answers and negative tactics. LeGod
  • Score: 23

7:52am Mon 3 Mar 14

mossy282 says...

I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago.

Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper?
I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago. Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper? mossy282
I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago. Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper? I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago. Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper? mossy282 mossy282
  • Score: 10

8:14am Mon 3 Mar 14

LeGod says...

Cooper has a two year contract and will still be here next season and i would have hoped he had learnt things in some of our performances but im not sure he has as we dont seem to change tactics at all as initially we caught teams out the first few months as no one knew how we would play but now everyone knows how to play against us which says it all they have changed tactics and we havent to combat there changes and that should have been done.
The start of next season is the key for cooper as we will need to get off to a good start otherwise i think he will be on his way as fans will get furstrated and vent there frustration during games.
Next season i hope we can adda a bit of steel to the side as well as having some good players technically as you need that mix to succeed.
Cooper has a two year contract and will still be here next season and i would have hoped he had learnt things in some of our performances but im not sure he has as we dont seem to change tactics at all as initially we caught teams out the first few months as no one knew how we would play but now everyone knows how to play against us which says it all they have changed tactics and we havent to combat there changes and that should have been done. The start of next season is the key for cooper as we will need to get off to a good start otherwise i think he will be on his way as fans will get furstrated and vent there frustration during games. Next season i hope we can adda a bit of steel to the side as well as having some good players technically as you need that mix to succeed. LeGod
  • Score: 4

8:29am Mon 3 Mar 14

LeGod says...

you cant spell out the true facts on here otherwise its a big zero. People dont like the truth on here so lets all think were doing great and were going to go on a winning run now for the rest of the season.
People need to realise we have lost the same games as Cith and where are they?
We are in poor form and with a L2 striker up front who cant score./
you cant spell out the true facts on here otherwise its a big zero. People dont like the truth on here so lets all think were doing great and were going to go on a winning run now for the rest of the season. People need to realise we have lost the same games as Cith and where are they? We are in poor form and with a L2 striker up front who cant score./ LeGod
  • Score: 3

8:32am Mon 3 Mar 14

the wizard says...

Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us.
The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad.
Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.
Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us. The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad. Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress. the wizard
  • Score: 1

8:32am Mon 3 Mar 14

bearwoodred says...

U REDS wrote:
A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.
loving the posivity first thing on Monday
[quote][p][bold]U REDS[/bold] wrote: A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.[/p][/quote]loving the posivity first thing on Monday bearwoodred
  • Score: 6

8:49am Mon 3 Mar 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

Best we have played blah blah blah, work in progress, players too young, Kassim going on international duty.....

Give it a rest.... Gonna get Mauled by the wolves

We are Swindons red and white army.
Best we have played blah blah blah, work in progress, players too young, Kassim going on international duty..... Give it a rest.... Gonna get Mauled by the wolves We are Swindons red and white army. Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 1

8:51am Mon 3 Mar 14

Robinonfire says...

1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman. Robinonfire
  • Score: -1

9:03am Mon 3 Mar 14

Davethered says...

I'm Just so bored now . You just know what to expect every week.
I'm Just so bored now . You just know what to expect every week. Davethered
  • Score: 12

9:06am Mon 3 Mar 14

Hampshire_ReD says...

On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs. Hampshire_ReD
  • Score: 8

9:32am Mon 3 Mar 14

stfc4ever!! says...

Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Ideally yes if we were in a position to appoint an experienced manager with a history of success Im fairly sure any club would want those qualities in appointing a new manager. That much is obvious. Considering the position we were in at the summer what 'experienced manager with a history of success' would want to come to us? New owner, new squad with no budget. Surely any manager wouldve seen this as a risky team to take on in terms of blemishing his own 'history of success.' In this view appointing a young manager who was desperate to succeed and prove himself was probably the only option Power had.

That being said next season is a different entity. We have to be showing progress from this season. Power has the players he wants to build around and Id imagine that Cooper would be set the target of promotion because lets face it survival was what most of us wanted before this season so lets be grateful that he have that to build on.

MC youve done your job for now but we need progress next season otherwise it could be curtains by christmas!
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Ideally yes if we were in a position to appoint an experienced manager with a history of success Im fairly sure any club would want those qualities in appointing a new manager. That much is obvious. Considering the position we were in at the summer what 'experienced manager with a history of success' would want to come to us? New owner, new squad with no budget. Surely any manager wouldve seen this as a risky team to take on in terms of blemishing his own 'history of success.' In this view appointing a young manager who was desperate to succeed and prove himself was probably the only option Power had. That being said next season is a different entity. We have to be showing progress from this season. Power has the players he wants to build around and Id imagine that Cooper would be set the target of promotion because lets face it survival was what most of us wanted before this season so lets be grateful that he have that to build on. MC youve done your job for now but we need progress next season otherwise it could be curtains by christmas! stfc4ever!!
  • Score: 7

9:41am Mon 3 Mar 14

hertz says...

Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce hertz
  • Score: 6

9:59am Mon 3 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup)

He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC.

Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners.

Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely.

Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions.

Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game!
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup) He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC. Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners. Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely. Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions. Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game! Wilesy
  • Score: 8

9:59am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
[quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then? swwindon61uk
  • Score: 17

10:03am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Thing is Mark a few games ago we seemed to have found "the formula" but then it was changed and by the looks of it we are back on it Saturday,just did not get the result.
The one thing that **** a lot of us off was the seemingly preferring the JPT than the League, subbing a player at half time that was probably having his best game of the season etc etc.
Thing is Mark a few games ago we seemed to have found "the formula" but then it was changed and by the looks of it we are back on it Saturday,just did not get the result. The one thing that **** a lot of us off was the seemingly preferring the JPT than the League, subbing a player at half time that was probably having his best game of the season etc etc. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 10

10:04am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8 swwindon61uk
  • Score: 11

10:05am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Wilesy wrote:
Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup)

He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC.

Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners.

Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely.

Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions.

Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game!
Very good post Wilesy.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup) He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC. Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners. Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely. Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions. Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game![/p][/quote]Very good post Wilesy. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 5

10:08am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

the wizard wrote:
Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us.
The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad.
Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.
I would say we have lost more points through defensive errors and missed chances over Cooper tactics.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us. The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad. Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.[/p][/quote]I would say we have lost more points through defensive errors and missed chances over Cooper tactics. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 12

10:09am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

LeGod wrote:
Mr Cooper Crewe had 8 players out so we should have dominated and won the game but as usual we sat back when we were a goal up. We have no threat up front whatsoever and we have relied on one player all season who is now out injured for the season. Worryingly we have the top sides to play so if we cant beat the bottom sides what chance against these sides.
We have absolutely thrown points away against poor sides we should be beating especially at home.
Its currently frustrating being a town fan as im sure alot think we could have got more than the points tally we currently have if we had made the rights changes tactically before and during games.
I was against cooper from the start of the season and have praised him for what he had done up to about three months ago but now i am finding him irritatingly boring with his same old answers and negative tactics.
Well according to those that went it was more Crewe pressing rather than us sitting back,big difference.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Mr Cooper Crewe had 8 players out so we should have dominated and won the game but as usual we sat back when we were a goal up. We have no threat up front whatsoever and we have relied on one player all season who is now out injured for the season. Worryingly we have the top sides to play so if we cant beat the bottom sides what chance against these sides. We have absolutely thrown points away against poor sides we should be beating especially at home. Its currently frustrating being a town fan as im sure alot think we could have got more than the points tally we currently have if we had made the rights changes tactically before and during games. I was against cooper from the start of the season and have praised him for what he had done up to about three months ago but now i am finding him irritatingly boring with his same old answers and negative tactics.[/p][/quote]Well according to those that went it was more Crewe pressing rather than us sitting back,big difference. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 12

10:16am Mon 3 Mar 14

the don69 says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
Statistics,Statistic
s and d@me Statistics!,we are what we are, an average League 1 side, simple end of !!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]Statistics,Statistic s and d@me Statistics!,we are what we are, an average League 1 side, simple end of !!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 8

10:18am Mon 3 Mar 14

the don69 says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
That's Football lol!!!!
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]That's Football lol!!!! the don69
  • Score: 5

10:21am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

mossy282 wrote:
I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago.

Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper?
I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago. Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper? mossy282
I think we are a work in process to be honest,these things do take time at our level sometimes,but it does need to be done the right way,whether MC is the man do it i don't know.
Orient really are good team to base what a bit of patience can do, they finished 5th from bottom two years ago.
Personally next year i think if we can keep the base of this team together and 4 or 5 quality additions and i think we could do something next year.
Whether that is under MC is something long and hard Power has to think about in May,Power is not a stupid man.
[quote][p][bold]mossy282[/bold] wrote: I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago. Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper? I am sick to death of hearing "we are a work in progress" the same lame excuse week after week. I do not comment on here very often but think Cooper has run out of ideas of how to win games a long time ago. Not much point in getting rid of him now, but Power has to have a good long look at our manager at the end of the season. If we are to progress I think it wil be without Mr Cooper? mossy282[/p][/quote]I think we are a work in process to be honest,these things do take time at our level sometimes,but it does need to be done the right way,whether MC is the man do it i don't know. Orient really are good team to base what a bit of patience can do, they finished 5th from bottom two years ago. Personally next year i think if we can keep the base of this team together and 4 or 5 quality additions and i think we could do something next year. Whether that is under MC is something long and hard Power has to think about in May,Power is not a stupid man. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 7

10:24am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

the don69 wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
That's Football lol!!!!
Exactly seriously!
Rotherham did not beat Crewe away either.
We beat County 2-0 at home,could easily have been 5-0 but as has been said we missed chances,Rotherham clearly didn't!!!
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]That's Football lol!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly seriously! Rotherham did not beat Crewe away either. We beat County 2-0 at home,could easily have been 5-0 but as has been said we missed chances,Rotherham clearly didn't!!! swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

10:26am Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

the don69 wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
Statistics,Statistic

s and d@me Statistics!,we are what we are, an average League 1 side, simple end of !!!!!!!!!
Could not agree more, we will finish where we deserve to be.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]Statistics,Statistic s and d@me Statistics!,we are what we are, an average League 1 side, simple end of !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Could not agree more, we will finish where we deserve to be. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 4

11:01am Mon 3 Mar 14

LeGod says...

I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants.
The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely.
The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that.
If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard.
Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.
I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants. The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely. The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that. If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard. Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope. LeGod
  • Score: 4

11:11am Mon 3 Mar 14

Stilloyal says...

Well Im' not letting Cooper take my dog for a walk he can't hold on to a lead.!

The comedian said on the radio that Town fans should be happy because they havn't seen football of our quality for years from a Town team. Its not spring yet but the first cuckoo has arrived.
Well Im' not letting Cooper take my dog for a walk he can't hold on to a lead.! The comedian said on the radio that Town fans should be happy because they havn't seen football of our quality for years from a Town team. Its not spring yet but the first cuckoo has arrived. Stilloyal
  • Score: 4

12:17pm Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

LeGod wrote:
I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants.
The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely.
The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that.
If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard.
Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.
As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times!
Ward,Cox,Williams,Na
varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment?
Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants. The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely. The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that. If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard. Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.[/p][/quote]As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times! Ward,Cox,Williams,Na varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment? Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

12:23pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Stilloyal says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
LeGod wrote:
I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants.
The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely.
The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that.
If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard.
Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.
As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times!
Ward,Cox,Williams,Na

varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment?
Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.
Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants. The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely. The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that. If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard. Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.[/p][/quote]As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times! Ward,Cox,Williams,Na varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment? Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.[/p][/quote]Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH. Stilloyal
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Stilloyal wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
LeGod wrote:
I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants.
The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely.
The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that.
If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard.
Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.
As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times!
Ward,Cox,Williams,Na


varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment?
Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.
Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.
Alright Al,how's tricks? :-)
I know Jay and Troy will be asked to stay but they are also on PDC money and i am sure they will be asked to take less as they are injury prone.
Personally i would only keep Troy of the two.
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants. The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely. The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that. If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard. Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.[/p][/quote]As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times! Ward,Cox,Williams,Na varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment? Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.[/p][/quote]Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.[/p][/quote]Alright Al,how's tricks? :-) I know Jay and Troy will be asked to stay but they are also on PDC money and i am sure they will be asked to take less as they are injury prone. Personally i would only keep Troy of the two. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 3

12:42pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

When I read the headline thought it might be Cooper finally saying that the play offs are out of reach, i.e. we could have done it but now looking like we won't. Obviously he's not going to say that though.

In some ways it's crazy for any of us to totally rule it out lying as we are in seventh, however looking at the points difference, games in hand and our seemingly unable to get a win at the moment I've ruled it out myself. It would take one hell of a winning run to do it - get two wins on the trot out of our next two games and I might get my hopes up again.
When I read the headline thought it might be Cooper finally saying that the play offs are out of reach, i.e. we could have done it but now looking like we won't. Obviously he's not going to say that though. In some ways it's crazy for any of us to totally rule it out lying as we are in seventh, however looking at the points difference, games in hand and our seemingly unable to get a win at the moment I've ruled it out myself. It would take one hell of a winning run to do it - get two wins on the trot out of our next two games and I might get my hopes up again. Swindon1984
  • Score: 0

12:42pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Stilloyal says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
LeGod wrote:
I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants.
The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely.
The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that.
If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard.
Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.
As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times!
Ward,Cox,Williams,Na



varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment?
Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.
Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.
Alright Al,how's tricks? :-)
I know Jay and Troy will be asked to stay but they are also on PDC money and i am sure they will be asked to take less as they are injury prone.
Personally i would only keep Troy of the two.
I'm good mate ta, hope you are also.

I'm thinking that maybe the only experienced first teamer we'll field next year is Ward sadly.
We'll have a team of promising youngsters some of which will be loanees again and Cooper will still be spouting "They are young and work in progress" I hope I'm wrong in my assumption.
We do need some experience in there but they cost, if we get older players in then I fear they will be has beens and don't care type players. However this isn't the way Power thinks so it'll be kids again.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants. The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely. The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that. If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard. Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.[/p][/quote]As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times! Ward,Cox,Williams,Na varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment? Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.[/p][/quote]Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.[/p][/quote]Alright Al,how's tricks? :-) I know Jay and Troy will be asked to stay but they are also on PDC money and i am sure they will be asked to take less as they are injury prone. Personally i would only keep Troy of the two.[/p][/quote]I'm good mate ta, hope you are also. I'm thinking that maybe the only experienced first teamer we'll field next year is Ward sadly. We'll have a team of promising youngsters some of which will be loanees again and Cooper will still be spouting "They are young and work in progress" I hope I'm wrong in my assumption. We do need some experience in there but they cost, if we get older players in then I fear they will be has beens and don't care type players. However this isn't the way Power thinks so it'll be kids again. Stilloyal
  • Score: 0

12:44pm Mon 3 Mar 14

itslove says...

LeGod wrote:
Cooper has a two year contract and will still be here next season and i would have hoped he had learnt things in some of our performances but im not sure he has as we dont seem to change tactics at all as initially we caught teams out the first few months as no one knew how we would play but now everyone knows how to play against us which says it all they have changed tactics and we havent to combat there changes and that should have been done.
The start of next season is the key for cooper as we will need to get off to a good start otherwise i think he will be on his way as fans will get furstrated and vent there frustration during games.
Next season i hope we can adda a bit of steel to the side as well as having some good players technically as you need that mix to succeed.
Coopers. a yes man for power. on good money. hes probably done enough to stay unless the fans really kick off ....i think we need to push on more. we played pretty good v crewe. but i think we should have gone for it more and won it. we can still do top 6 . we will need to attack and score more not accept. mefiocre play like cooper does. cooper hss to prove he can move up 4 notches and raise our game a few more levels.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Cooper has a two year contract and will still be here next season and i would have hoped he had learnt things in some of our performances but im not sure he has as we dont seem to change tactics at all as initially we caught teams out the first few months as no one knew how we would play but now everyone knows how to play against us which says it all they have changed tactics and we havent to combat there changes and that should have been done. The start of next season is the key for cooper as we will need to get off to a good start otherwise i think he will be on his way as fans will get furstrated and vent there frustration during games. Next season i hope we can adda a bit of steel to the side as well as having some good players technically as you need that mix to succeed.[/p][/quote]Coopers. a yes man for power. on good money. hes probably done enough to stay unless the fans really kick off ....i think we need to push on more. we played pretty good v crewe. but i think we should have gone for it more and won it. we can still do top 6 . we will need to attack and score more not accept. mefiocre play like cooper does. cooper hss to prove he can move up 4 notches and raise our game a few more levels. itslove
  • Score: 0

12:47pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story. Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

12:57pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Mchalethegreat says...

It really is frustrating because I believe we could potentially have made the play offs but with our run in there is no chance. We have a couple of pretty physical teams coming up (PNE and Wolves), Brentford will need a win, and Rotherham are on fire + big local derby ..hard to see many points there. To have finished in this position looking back would have probably been a decent achievement but the recent form means we end the season on a low after several poor home performances. One thing that makes me laugh with our home match with MKD is still the comments around Karl Robinson being a real "potential rising star" English manager...really!! the guy in my view is a worse performer than Mr Cooper...they have failed to really progress AT ALL in five years. With Luongo being "tired" last week its interesting that with all our injuries him and Kasim will be on international duty this week...doesnt bode well for Saturday. Also a bit odd is that there seems to be no news on Pritchards fitness.
It really is frustrating because I believe we could potentially have made the play offs but with our run in there is no chance. We have a couple of pretty physical teams coming up (PNE and Wolves), Brentford will need a win, and Rotherham are on fire + big local derby ..hard to see many points there. To have finished in this position looking back would have probably been a decent achievement but the recent form means we end the season on a low after several poor home performances. One thing that makes me laugh with our home match with MKD is still the comments around Karl Robinson being a real "potential rising star" English manager...really!! the guy in my view is a worse performer than Mr Cooper...they have failed to really progress AT ALL in five years. With Luongo being "tired" last week its interesting that with all our injuries him and Kasim will be on international duty this week...doesnt bode well for Saturday. Also a bit odd is that there seems to be no news on Pritchards fitness. Mchalethegreat
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Mon 3 Mar 14

the wizard says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us.
The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad.
Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.
I would say we have lost more points through defensive errors and missed chances over Cooper tactics.
Yes I can go along with that, but, lol, who sets up the defence, and puts up with such on-field indiscipline and loads of cards, when he should have stepped in and sorted that problem in September. Club fines for any player carded for dissent would stop a lot of the back chatting refs which has resulted in the contribution to suspensions etc.

All this peripheral stuff doesn't help, and as many have said about the tactics. To his credit, I can see somebody trying quite hard, but he is not picking up on many smaller issues which add to the greater picture. He needs a mentor, but he has been in this game long enough to know that discipline in its many forms is fundamentally very important, and he has let too many issues go not addressed.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us. The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad. Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.[/p][/quote]I would say we have lost more points through defensive errors and missed chances over Cooper tactics.[/p][/quote]Yes I can go along with that, but, lol, who sets up the defence, and puts up with such on-field indiscipline and loads of cards, when he should have stepped in and sorted that problem in September. Club fines for any player carded for dissent would stop a lot of the back chatting refs which has resulted in the contribution to suspensions etc. All this peripheral stuff doesn't help, and as many have said about the tactics. To his credit, I can see somebody trying quite hard, but he is not picking up on many smaller issues which add to the greater picture. He needs a mentor, but he has been in this game long enough to know that discipline in its many forms is fundamentally very important, and he has let too many issues go not addressed. the wizard
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Mon 3 Mar 14

the wizard says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff. the wizard
  • Score: 2

2:03pm Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Stilloyal wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
LeGod wrote:
I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants.
The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely.
The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that.
If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard.
Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.
As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times!
Ward,Cox,Williams,Na




varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment?
Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.
Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.
Alright Al,how's tricks? :-)
I know Jay and Troy will be asked to stay but they are also on PDC money and i am sure they will be asked to take less as they are injury prone.
Personally i would only keep Troy of the two.
I'm good mate ta, hope you are also.

I'm thinking that maybe the only experienced first teamer we'll field next year is Ward sadly.
We'll have a team of promising youngsters some of which will be loanees again and Cooper will still be spouting "They are young and work in progress" I hope I'm wrong in my assumption.
We do need some experience in there but they cost, if we get older players in then I fear they will be has beens and don't care type players. However this isn't the way Power thinks so it'll be kids again.
Yeah i am fine also Al thanks.
It really is a case of wait and see, i can't see that happening myself.
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: I can see a lot of players leaving in the summer as Powerhas stated he has money until the summer so we will cash in where we can and there are still a number of players at the club still on big money for this league and with Powers drive to get the wage bill down even more will that leave us with a team of players that have been put on the scrap heap that no one else wants. The Spurs players now they have had their first year of experience in league football i would imagine Spurs will want the likes of Pritchard to step up another levle to the championship unless we can pull something out the bag and sign him up but probably unlikely. The other option is if we get some additional investment in the club and who knows if work is being done behind the scenes to do that. If the wage bill is cut further it would put us at the bottom end of the market in who we attract to the club and if some of the players we have here now that played at Orient then it is a very worrying situation for us and i can only see one thing as alot of our back up players are not L1 standard. Still we will have to wait and see what happens and maybe we may get surprised so we can only hope.[/p][/quote]As someone else mentioned previously we will save most of the money he is looking to save when PDC's big contracts signings end in July,plus i am sure Troy and Jay will be asked to take a pay cut as they literally do not have a leg to stand on at times! Ward,Cox,Williams,Na varro,Benson,Jay and Troy anyone any idea what the cost of these are per week,month,year at the moment? Not forgetting the debacle with Comazzi either.[/p][/quote]Pete , I'm sure you are correct here but I'm not sure that Jay and Troy will be asked to stay, hopefully they will but I'd like to see the back of Ward TBH.[/p][/quote]Alright Al,how's tricks? :-) I know Jay and Troy will be asked to stay but they are also on PDC money and i am sure they will be asked to take less as they are injury prone. Personally i would only keep Troy of the two.[/p][/quote]I'm good mate ta, hope you are also. I'm thinking that maybe the only experienced first teamer we'll field next year is Ward sadly. We'll have a team of promising youngsters some of which will be loanees again and Cooper will still be spouting "They are young and work in progress" I hope I'm wrong in my assumption. We do need some experience in there but they cost, if we get older players in then I fear they will be has beens and don't care type players. However this isn't the way Power thinks so it'll be kids again.[/p][/quote]Yeah i am fine also Al thanks. It really is a case of wait and see, i can't see that happening myself. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

the wizard wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us.
The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad.
Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.
I would say we have lost more points through defensive errors and missed chances over Cooper tactics.
Yes I can go along with that, but, lol, who sets up the defence, and puts up with such on-field indiscipline and loads of cards, when he should have stepped in and sorted that problem in September. Club fines for any player carded for dissent would stop a lot of the back chatting refs which has resulted in the contribution to suspensions etc.

All this peripheral stuff doesn't help, and as many have said about the tactics. To his credit, I can see somebody trying quite hard, but he is not picking up on many smaller issues which add to the greater picture. He needs a mentor, but he has been in this game long enough to know that discipline in its many forms is fundamentally very important, and he has let too many issues go not addressed.
I agree to the extent that Ward should not have been picked a long time ago.
But i very much doubt Cooper's team talk says leave players unmarked in the box.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Every team is work in progress, that is proven by the vast money spent by the top teams every summer, even the likes of Chelsea and Man City are work in progress, but the point is they do progress and remain in the top flight. So OK we are doing the same in our way at our level, the same as all the other clubs around us. The points thrown away this season are due to the naive actions of Cooper with his wanting tactics and actions, ie putting Storey out on loan at a critical time, and to Power for not having the ambition to sign Ajose. I do however accept that Power has to juggle his finance to maintain and sustain the club, but we needed a player of that ability within our squad. Coopers wanting tactics have cost us more points than any single player. Perhaps it is Cooper that is work in progress.[/p][/quote]I would say we have lost more points through defensive errors and missed chances over Cooper tactics.[/p][/quote]Yes I can go along with that, but, lol, who sets up the defence, and puts up with such on-field indiscipline and loads of cards, when he should have stepped in and sorted that problem in September. Club fines for any player carded for dissent would stop a lot of the back chatting refs which has resulted in the contribution to suspensions etc. All this peripheral stuff doesn't help, and as many have said about the tactics. To his credit, I can see somebody trying quite hard, but he is not picking up on many smaller issues which add to the greater picture. He needs a mentor, but he has been in this game long enough to know that discipline in its many forms is fundamentally very important, and he has let too many issues go not addressed.[/p][/quote]I agree to the extent that Ward should not have been picked a long time ago. But i very much doubt Cooper's team talk says leave players unmarked in the box. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

2:09pm Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
100 percent agree but you have to admit a lot of our goals conceded even with mediocre or even poor defending would have been stopped.
I think the defence is looking ok'ish right now but as you say its goals we need and that is now a big problem.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]100 percent agree but you have to admit a lot of our goals conceded even with mediocre or even poor defending would have been stopped. I think the defence is looking ok'ish right now but as you say its goals we need and that is now a big problem. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

3:08pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin! Oi Den!
  • Score: 5

3:16pm Mon 3 Mar 14

the wizard says...

Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
Well, I'll give you a plus as I've never been there, but always pleased to hear from those who have traveled beyond the obvious front door. In addition, pleased to hear you enjoyed the trip, and returned safely.

Did you see any footie out there, and was it ant good ?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]Well, I'll give you a plus as I've never been there, but always pleased to hear from those who have traveled beyond the obvious front door. In addition, pleased to hear you enjoyed the trip, and returned safely. Did you see any footie out there, and was it ant good ? the wizard
  • Score: 0

3:16pm Mon 3 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
Most warm and welcoming den?
You've never met me.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]Most warm and welcoming den? You've never met me. smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

3:20pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
100 percent agree but you have to admit a lot of our goals conceded even with mediocre or even poor defending would have been stopped.
I think the defence is looking ok'ish right now but as you say its goals we need and that is now a big problem.
I do agree. That's football. There's no point in whingeing about what might have been. Results speak for themselves. You might get the odd fluke but a pattern emerges over a longer period. Injuries, suspensions, dodgy refereeing decisions - we all get 'em and the better teams finish at the top of the pile.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]100 percent agree but you have to admit a lot of our goals conceded even with mediocre or even poor defending would have been stopped. I think the defence is looking ok'ish right now but as you say its goals we need and that is now a big problem.[/p][/quote]I do agree. That's football. There's no point in whingeing about what might have been. Results speak for themselves. You might get the odd fluke but a pattern emerges over a longer period. Injuries, suspensions, dodgy refereeing decisions - we all get 'em and the better teams finish at the top of the pile. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

3:26pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
Well, I'll give you a plus as I've never been there, but always pleased to hear from those who have traveled beyond the obvious front door. In addition, pleased to hear you enjoyed the trip, and returned safely.

Did you see any footie out there, and was it ant good ?
Didn't go to any games and just saw some snippets on the box. It didn't look great but to be honest I didn't pay much attention.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]Well, I'll give you a plus as I've never been there, but always pleased to hear from those who have traveled beyond the obvious front door. In addition, pleased to hear you enjoyed the trip, and returned safely. Did you see any footie out there, and was it ant good ?[/p][/quote]Didn't go to any games and just saw some snippets on the box. It didn't look great but to be honest I didn't pay much attention. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
100 percent agree but you have to admit a lot of our goals conceded even with mediocre or even poor defending would have been stopped. I think the defence is looking ok'ish right now but as you say its goals we need and that is now a big problem.
I do agree. That's football. There's no point in whingeing about what might have been. Results speak for themselves. You might get the odd fluke but a pattern emerges over a longer period. Injuries, suspensions, dodgy refereeing decisions - we all get 'em and the better teams finish at the top of the pile.
Absolutely agree, you generally get what you deserve and for our performances this season, we're about where we should be. That we're not higher is due to some poor performances and poor results against teams we really should've beaten. But not to worry, hopefully lessons will be learned.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]100 percent agree but you have to admit a lot of our goals conceded even with mediocre or even poor defending would have been stopped. I think the defence is looking ok'ish right now but as you say its goals we need and that is now a big problem.[/p][/quote]I do agree. That's football. There's no point in whingeing about what might have been. Results speak for themselves. You might get the odd fluke but a pattern emerges over a longer period. Injuries, suspensions, dodgy refereeing decisions - we all get 'em and the better teams finish at the top of the pile.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree, you generally get what you deserve and for our performances this season, we're about where we should be. That we're not higher is due to some poor performances and poor results against teams we really should've beaten. But not to worry, hopefully lessons will be learned. Swindon1984
  • Score: 3

3:57pm Mon 3 Mar 14

6degreessouth says...

Aaarh I'm getting sleepy now, change the record Cooper.
Aaarh I'm getting sleepy now, change the record Cooper. 6degreessouth
  • Score: -3

4:21pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

When I first read the headline I read it as Cooper Ruining what might have been for Swindon
When I first read the headline I read it as Cooper Ruining what might have been for Swindon Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 5

5:06pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Fernham Red says...

Wilesy wrote:
Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup)

He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC.

Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners.

Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely.

Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions.

Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game!
Wilesy,

At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season.

1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi
p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive)

2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis
-behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8

3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out)

4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad.

Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings:
1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated
2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan.
3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now.
4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised.

From my point of view a job well done!
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup) He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC. Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners. Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely. Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions. Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game![/p][/quote]Wilesy, At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season. 1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive) 2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis -behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8 3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out) 4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad. Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings: 1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated 2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan. 3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now. 4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised. From my point of view a job well done! Fernham Red
  • Score: 7

5:07pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
1 good post in 100 :-)

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]1 good post in 100 :-) COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 4

5:42pm Mon 3 Mar 14

the don69 says...

Fernham Red wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup)

He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC.

Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners.

Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely.

Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions.

Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game!
Wilesy,

At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season.

1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi

p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive)

2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis

-behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8

3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out)

4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad.

Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings:
1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated
2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan.
3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now.
4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised.

From my point of view a job well done!
Good Post Fernham! L/R would be proud of you lol !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup) He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC. Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners. Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely. Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions. Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game![/p][/quote]Wilesy, At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season. 1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive) 2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis -behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8 3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out) 4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad. Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings: 1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated 2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan. 3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now. 4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised. From my point of view a job well done![/p][/quote]Good Post Fernham! L/R would be proud of you lol !!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

5:51pm Mon 3 Mar 14

lifelong red says...

Fernham Red wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup)

He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC.

Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners.

Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely.

Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions.

Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game!
Wilesy,

At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season.

1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi

p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive)

2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis

-behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8

3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out)

4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad.

Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings:
1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated
2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan.
3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now.
4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised.

From my point of view a job well done!
God your typing fingers must be red raw after all that - excellent post though - well done.
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup) He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC. Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners. Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely. Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions. Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game![/p][/quote]Wilesy, At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season. 1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive) 2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis -behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8 3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out) 4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad. Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings: 1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated 2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan. 3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now. 4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised. From my point of view a job well done![/p][/quote]God your typing fingers must be red raw after all that - excellent post though - well done. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Mon 3 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
1 good post in 100 :-)

COYMR
One????
Must have missed that.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]1 good post in 100 :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]One???? Must have missed that. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

6:38pm Mon 3 Mar 14

MARK TITCOMBE says...

Cooper is a piece of work that will never progress.... he was a failure and is a failure and will always be a failure.
Great players..... **** manager!
Boring Boring Boring......... Not going to any more matches until he's gone.
I know loads of people who feel the same.
Shame really as it could have been good this season with a half decent manger.

Thanks to all that saved us and the whole plan is great but he is the week link. Everyone can see it.
Cooper is a piece of work that will never progress.... he was a failure and is a failure and will always be a failure. Great players..... **** manager! Boring Boring Boring......... Not going to any more matches until he's gone. I know loads of people who feel the same. Shame really as it could have been good this season with a half decent manger. Thanks to all that saved us and the whole plan is great but he is the week link. Everyone can see it. MARK TITCOMBE
  • Score: 2

6:41pm Mon 3 Mar 14

avo says...

Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
How much is a gram of charlie?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]How much is a gram of charlie? avo
  • Score: -1

6:47pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Jockster says...

bearwoodred wrote:
U REDS wrote:
A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.
loving the posivity first thing on Monday
So do I he's dead right isn't he!
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]U REDS[/bold] wrote: A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.[/p][/quote]loving the posivity first thing on Monday[/p][/quote]So do I he's dead right isn't he! The Jockster
  • Score: -1

6:48pm Mon 3 Mar 14

the don69 says...

avo wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
How much is a gram of charlie?
Not much Avo he's injured at the moment! but it could cost QPR a packet and dear ol Arry his job !!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]How much is a gram of charlie?[/p][/quote]Not much Avo he's injured at the moment! but it could cost QPR a packet and dear ol Arry his job !!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 3

6:57pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Jockster says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed. The Jockster
  • Score: 1

7:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

red white says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
When I read the headline thought it might be Cooper finally saying that the play offs are out of reach, i.e. we could have done it but now looking like we won't. Obviously he's not going to say that though. In some ways it's crazy for any of us to totally rule it out lying as we are in seventh, however looking at the points difference, games in hand and our seemingly unable to get a win at the moment I've ruled it out myself. It would take one hell of a winning run to do it - get two wins on the trot out of our next two games and I might get my hopes up again.
I thiink we will get in the play offs and i think after the Peterboro disaster we will be stronger and more up for getting to Wembley.

Where we will probably nause it up again!
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: When I read the headline thought it might be Cooper finally saying that the play offs are out of reach, i.e. we could have done it but now looking like we won't. Obviously he's not going to say that though. In some ways it's crazy for any of us to totally rule it out lying as we are in seventh, however looking at the points difference, games in hand and our seemingly unable to get a win at the moment I've ruled it out myself. It would take one hell of a winning run to do it - get two wins on the trot out of our next two games and I might get my hopes up again.[/p][/quote]I thiink we will get in the play offs and i think after the Peterboro disaster we will be stronger and more up for getting to Wembley. Where we will probably nause it up again! red white
  • Score: 1

7:10pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Jockster says...

Hey Den fancy a coke -liquid or powdered form? Sniff! Sniff! must have a bit of a cold!
Hey Den fancy a coke -liquid or powdered form? Sniff! Sniff! must have a bit of a cold! The Jockster
  • Score: -4

7:13pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

avo wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
How much is a gram of charlie?
Like I said, reputation undeserved. Didn't see the slightest evidence of it. I'm sure it's around if you want it but my son (we were visiting him) says it's far more obvious in London than in Bogota.
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]How much is a gram of charlie?[/p][/quote]Like I said, reputation undeserved. Didn't see the slightest evidence of it. I'm sure it's around if you want it but my son (we were visiting him) says it's far more obvious in London than in Bogota. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

7:17pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Dover Red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
Sums up your negative posts, good reply
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]Sums up your negative posts, good reply Dover Red
  • Score: 5

7:20pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

The Jockster wrote:
Hey Den fancy a coke -liquid or powdered form? Sniff! Sniff! must have a bit of a cold!
Wish I had a quid for every drugs quip I've heard lately!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Hey Den fancy a coke -liquid or powdered form? Sniff! Sniff! must have a bit of a cold![/p][/quote]Wish I had a quid for every drugs quip I've heard lately! Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

avo says...

Oi Den! wrote:
avo wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.
Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.
Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin!
How much is a gram of charlie?
Like I said, reputation undeserved. Didn't see the slightest evidence of it. I'm sure it's around if you want it but my son (we were visiting him) says it's far more obvious in London than in Bogota.
And less than 5% pure if you believe what the media tells you. Quite why anyone would want to throw money at that is beyond me. But then a cokehead probably asks the same about a Swindon Fan.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Every team in the country can point to ifs, buts and maybes. Score more goals than the opposition and you win games. End of story.[/p][/quote]Good to see you back Den, hope you had a good break away from all this cold and damp stuff.[/p][/quote]Cheers Wlz. I had the pleasure of visiting Colombia. It's a marvellous country, with the most warm and welcoming people you could wish to meet. I wouldn't normally ramble on about holidays on here but I promised many Colombians that I would come back and spread the word that their country does not deserve its reputation. Of course you have to take some precautions in Bogota, as you do in any big city. As for the weather, Bogota gets its fair share of damp. It's usually sunny in the mornings and cloudy in the afternoons. The temperature's constant all year round at about 19C. On the Caribbean coast (an hour away on a flight that costs about £60 return) it's about 34C. There's a mutual charm offensive going on between our 2 countries at the mo. William Hague was there last week and I believe Prince Charles is visiting soon. OK, that's the end of my shameless plug. I've done my bit as promised. Now I'll take the minuses on the chin![/p][/quote]How much is a gram of charlie?[/p][/quote]Like I said, reputation undeserved. Didn't see the slightest evidence of it. I'm sure it's around if you want it but my son (we were visiting him) says it's far more obvious in London than in Bogota.[/p][/quote]And less than 5% pure if you believe what the media tells you. Quite why anyone would want to throw money at that is beyond me. But then a cokehead probably asks the same about a Swindon Fan. avo
  • Score: 1

8:52pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Wilesy says...

Fernham Red wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Hampshire_ReD wrote:
On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation.

So to be where we are in the table is worth something.

However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available.

If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1.

Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help.

I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.
Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup)

He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC.

Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners.

Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely.

Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions.

Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game!
Wilesy,

At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season.

1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi

p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive)

2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis

-behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8

3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out)

4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad.

Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings:
1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated
2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan.
3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now.
4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised.

From my point of view a job well done!
Excellent analysis Fernham.

On the subject of revenue streams I would be interested to hear from Power on

a) Electronic advertising (both side of pitch and video screen) - where's it gone?
b) Are more concerts planned?
c) Latest on the Calne training ground?
d) Latest on the Stratton Bank roof application?

I think I may be able to answer the questions myself but confirmation would be nice!
[quote][p][bold]Fernham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: On the face of it, a make-shift team with a number of loan players led by a rookie manager sounds like the receipe for relegation. So to be where we are in the table is worth something. However, had Power appointed an experienced manager with a history of success - instead of Cooper, I have no doubt at all, that we would be in the play-offs with the players currently available. If Power is now going to slash the wage bill further next year - I really don't see us staying in League 1. Cooper's ego and utter refusal to question whether he should be trying different tactics / formations / styles really don't help. I just hope to god that the pOx don't get promoted in the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Lots of ifs and buts but not directly the fault of 'rookie' Cooper who don't forget has his hands tied in the transfer market. He has done well results wise over the season both league and cup (although obv not the FA Cup) He has tried different tactics throughout the season and during games which is an improvement on PDC. Don't understand how you can write off next season when down to budget when basically the only difference is the high wage earners not playing (Williams, Navarro, Benson) will be off the books, plus a few high earners on the books (eg Jay, Troy) that are playing may be moved on or back on reduced wages, and probably a change in loanees. This is a key part of the 'work in progress' it was always a 2 year exercise to lose the big earners. Every season there's some wheeling and dealing so lets see what happens surely. Is Cooper the man for the job, well yes, results would suggest he deserves a second season with a clear deck, refreshed youngsters into their second year of regular league football, and a few new additions. Personally I hope the Pox get promoted I would rather watch us play them than Stevenage or Notts County, it would be a much more exciting game![/p][/quote]Wilesy, At last some common sense on this string - we have too look to the long term success of this club and make steps towards meeting that goal. He is my assessment of how MC and LP got on against our key 4 'heavily constrained' goals this season. 1) Lower the wage bill so that our income at least balances out the expenses - we HAD to lose some important key players at the start of the season to cut wages. Those with expired contracts were free to go (Ward, the exception) Because of our widely publicised financial position (email sent to all clubs offering up our entire squad) - clubs with cash treated up like a closing down sale and picked up the best of what they could see for very little (Ritchie, Collins, Flint) Thankfully we secured some money for players with contracts which is better than the alternative of releasing them after we went bust. Unfortunately we could not afford to cancel the contracts of players still on the books or face the legal fees so a large slice of our (break even) wages cap was consumed by those (generally older players with a falling market value) we couldn't shift. (Navarro, Williams, Benson, Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Ward, Troy). Of these eight only the last 3 have had any real involvement this season (McEveley has performed reasonably well but no better than some of the rivals for his place; Ward's greatest asset has been his experience/leadershi p not his ability and Troy has only now started to repay the investment made on him (despite that he's still the pick of the three). When fit the others were farmed out to recover at least some of the burden to our bottom line (n.b. apart from Benson, they have all flattered to deceive) 2) Start building a squad of young players with high potential who's nett value will rise so we can reinvest the transfer fees - Despite being seriously handicapped by expensive injured or mediocre high earners (if they were really that good, someone would have come in for them!) we have managed to keep some great young players (Wes, Nathan, Louis, Miles) retain those with potential to be as good but were untried (Oakley, Jones, Bedwell, Ferguson, Francis, Waldon) buy in some tried and tested young players (Luongo, Byrne) use our contacts to bring high calibre loanee's (Pritchard, Ajose, Mason, and to a lesser extent Hall, Murphy, Reckord) and to sign (give a second chance to) some new low financial risk players with impressive pedigree but who were currently under-performing/mis -behaving (Nile, Kasim, Branco, Barthram, Tyrell, Barker, Tijane, Agombar) and others who had made an impact at a lower level (M Smith, B Gladwin) plus a gamble on SWAP (Jackson). All of these 28 players brought in or retained with a new contract are a) on relatively low wages within our new sustainable model b) where they had or have since performed and attracted interest were rewarded with a longer contract thereby raising any future transfer fee c) 23 or younger with an average age of 20.8 3) Introduce/retain some new tried and tested performers at this/higher level to help lead and shape the developing team - (Harley, N'Guessan) have to a lesser or greater extent (barring injury) been employed to this task (el Gabas - didn't work out) 4) Develop new and improve existing facilities and investment streams - we now have more seats, refurbed 'cosmetically' the stadium, shop and bar areas; reorganized (down-sized) the team in the stadium/ticketing and sub-contracted out services for a guaranteed income where previously there was none/little (food/stewarding); got in Spurs for a friendly; seriously reduced the team management budget post PDC; organized better traing facilities for the future and brought youth and women's teams closer to the Men's squad. Bearing in mind we are only one place lower than where we were this time last year I would give the following scores against these 4 headings: 1) Wage Bill Cut - 8/10 the only shame is we couldn't have shifted out more dead wood or negotiated 2) Build young sustainable team - 10/10 all within budget, most have appreciated in value and performed on the field or have showed promise away from SN1. Not one on this list of 28 has under-performed and we got unlucky with injuries to Agombar, Tijane and Oakley) there is a string argument to keep all of them within the squad or development/out on loan. 3) Support the squad with Experienced pros on free transfers - 6/10 N'Guessan has had a decent return of goals and some dedicated performances; Harley is only now coming into form and Gabas obviously didn't fit. Ward also sits in this Box, sadly his better days are behind him now. 4) Future Facilities / revenue streams - 9/10 you cannot say they've left a stone unturned on this one. Only the concerts didn't return all that they had promised. From my point of view a job well done![/p][/quote]Excellent analysis Fernham. On the subject of revenue streams I would be interested to hear from Power on a) Electronic advertising (both side of pitch and video screen) - where's it gone? b) Are more concerts planned? c) Latest on the Calne training ground? d) Latest on the Stratton Bank roof application? I think I may be able to answer the questions myself but confirmation would be nice! Wilesy
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

bearwoodred says...

The Jockster wrote:
bearwoodred wrote:
U REDS wrote:
A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.
loving the posivity first thing on Monday
So do I he's dead right isn't he!
no
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]U REDS[/bold] wrote: A long way off the play offs all over the park. The way it's going I can't see next season being any different either.[/p][/quote]loving the posivity first thing on Monday[/p][/quote]So do I he's dead right isn't he![/p][/quote]no bearwoodred
  • Score: 0

9:23pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Agree with the general theme of Fernham's post but I don't see how we've built a team that's sustainable. Many of the players will be off in the summer and if we're going to have a chance of success next season several changes will be needed anyway.
Agree with the general theme of Fernham's post but I don't see how we've built a team that's sustainable. Many of the players will be off in the summer and if we're going to have a chance of success next season several changes will be needed anyway. Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

9:30pm Mon 3 Mar 14

bearwoodred says...

The hatred of Cooper on this forum genuinely grieves me for the simple reason that he is the manager of our beloved club and we should be supporting him. But I suppose it is easier to write a placard, find your pitchfork and light the burning torches than it is to support someone.

He is called clueless yet has tried more formations and tactics than any manager I can ever remember and the reason probably because of bad errors at the back and poor finishing up front! Not his fault.

People moan that he has got tactics wrong but not praised him when they have gone well e.g. Vale, Posh, Coventry, Walsall away etc. They have moaned when we have not closed out games such as Posh at home, Crewe, Crawley etc. yet forget two things. Firstly the strikers should have put us out of site and secondly teams do up a gear as a rule when they are losing!

Noone has attributted the fact that players like Mass and Kasim are not internationals having been bought from the wilderness of reserve football and conference obscurity - for me our 2 best players along with Nathan and Louis another two players who have moved on in leaps and bounds and those four along with Harley, Branco, possibly Nile will be the backbone of a better side next season hopefully. But if Cooper is to blame for the bad things then is he not responsible for some of the good things this season? Yes we have seen some poor football, but we have also seen some really class and for me one of the best halfs of attacking football since Hoddle, away to Wolves.

the thing is it is all ifs and buts of course it is. However he has been dogged by single mistakes, a stupid sending off or two and an AWOL striker that cost us probably 5 wins which would have put us above the Posh including their games in hand and a trip to Wembley,

We also all know that Nile is easily the best striker in the league, Has Coops not gone out of his way to keep him playing for us? He had him over for Christmas and is repaid by him crashing his car. Imagine the ego dealing with him? There would have been a touchline fight in September!!

Me! I am looking forward to Mk Dons
The hatred of Cooper on this forum genuinely grieves me for the simple reason that he is the manager of our beloved club and we should be supporting him. But I suppose it is easier to write a placard, find your pitchfork and light the burning torches than it is to support someone. He is called clueless yet has tried more formations and tactics than any manager I can ever remember and the reason probably because of bad errors at the back and poor finishing up front! Not his fault. People moan that he has got tactics wrong but not praised him when they have gone well e.g. Vale, Posh, Coventry, Walsall away etc. They have moaned when we have not closed out games such as Posh at home, Crewe, Crawley etc. yet forget two things. Firstly the strikers should have put us out of site and secondly teams do up a gear as a rule when they are losing! Noone has attributted the fact that players like Mass and Kasim are not internationals having been bought from the wilderness of reserve football and conference obscurity - for me our 2 best players along with Nathan and Louis another two players who have moved on in leaps and bounds and those four along with Harley, Branco, possibly Nile will be the backbone of a better side next season hopefully. But if Cooper is to blame for the bad things then is he not responsible for some of the good things this season? Yes we have seen some poor football, but we have also seen some really class and for me one of the best halfs of attacking football since Hoddle, away to Wolves. the thing is it is all ifs and buts of course it is. However he has been dogged by single mistakes, a stupid sending off or two and an AWOL striker that cost us probably 5 wins which would have put us above the Posh including their games in hand and a trip to Wembley, We also all know that Nile is easily the best striker in the league, Has Coops not gone out of his way to keep him playing for us? He had him over for Christmas and is repaid by him crashing his car. Imagine the ego dealing with him? There would have been a touchline fight in September!! Me! I am looking forward to Mk Dons bearwoodred
  • Score: 5

9:38pm Mon 3 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
ARE LAST 11 GAMES..
WON 2...s/bury port vale
DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew
LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT..............
..
THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33..
SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..?

The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes..

I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]ARE LAST 11 GAMES.. WON 2...s/bury port vale DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT.............. .. THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33.. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..? The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes.. I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Swindon1984 says...

bearwoodred wrote:
The hatred of Cooper on this forum genuinely grieves me for the simple reason that he is the manager of our beloved club and we should be supporting him. But I suppose it is easier to write a placard, find your pitchfork and light the burning torches than it is to support someone.

He is called clueless yet has tried more formations and tactics than any manager I can ever remember and the reason probably because of bad errors at the back and poor finishing up front! Not his fault.

People moan that he has got tactics wrong but not praised him when they have gone well e.g. Vale, Posh, Coventry, Walsall away etc. They have moaned when we have not closed out games such as Posh at home, Crewe, Crawley etc. yet forget two things. Firstly the strikers should have put us out of site and secondly teams do up a gear as a rule when they are losing!

Noone has attributted the fact that players like Mass and Kasim are not internationals having been bought from the wilderness of reserve football and conference obscurity - for me our 2 best players along with Nathan and Louis another two players who have moved on in leaps and bounds and those four along with Harley, Branco, possibly Nile will be the backbone of a better side next season hopefully. But if Cooper is to blame for the bad things then is he not responsible for some of the good things this season? Yes we have seen some poor football, but we have also seen some really class and for me one of the best halfs of attacking football since Hoddle, away to Wolves.

the thing is it is all ifs and buts of course it is. However he has been dogged by single mistakes, a stupid sending off or two and an AWOL striker that cost us probably 5 wins which would have put us above the Posh including their games in hand and a trip to Wembley,

We also all know that Nile is easily the best striker in the league, Has Coops not gone out of his way to keep him playing for us? He had him over for Christmas and is repaid by him crashing his car. Imagine the ego dealing with him? There would have been a touchline fight in September!!

Me! I am looking forward to Mk Dons
Good man - agree that some of the Cooper bashing has been over the top. MK home then city away, much as we might complain we'll miss that over the summer!
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: The hatred of Cooper on this forum genuinely grieves me for the simple reason that he is the manager of our beloved club and we should be supporting him. But I suppose it is easier to write a placard, find your pitchfork and light the burning torches than it is to support someone. He is called clueless yet has tried more formations and tactics than any manager I can ever remember and the reason probably because of bad errors at the back and poor finishing up front! Not his fault. People moan that he has got tactics wrong but not praised him when they have gone well e.g. Vale, Posh, Coventry, Walsall away etc. They have moaned when we have not closed out games such as Posh at home, Crewe, Crawley etc. yet forget two things. Firstly the strikers should have put us out of site and secondly teams do up a gear as a rule when they are losing! Noone has attributted the fact that players like Mass and Kasim are not internationals having been bought from the wilderness of reserve football and conference obscurity - for me our 2 best players along with Nathan and Louis another two players who have moved on in leaps and bounds and those four along with Harley, Branco, possibly Nile will be the backbone of a better side next season hopefully. But if Cooper is to blame for the bad things then is he not responsible for some of the good things this season? Yes we have seen some poor football, but we have also seen some really class and for me one of the best halfs of attacking football since Hoddle, away to Wolves. the thing is it is all ifs and buts of course it is. However he has been dogged by single mistakes, a stupid sending off or two and an AWOL striker that cost us probably 5 wins which would have put us above the Posh including their games in hand and a trip to Wembley, We also all know that Nile is easily the best striker in the league, Has Coops not gone out of his way to keep him playing for us? He had him over for Christmas and is repaid by him crashing his car. Imagine the ego dealing with him? There would have been a touchline fight in September!! Me! I am looking forward to Mk Dons[/p][/quote]Good man - agree that some of the Cooper bashing has been over the top. MK home then city away, much as we might complain we'll miss that over the summer! Swindon1984
  • Score: 2

9:50pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

bearwoodred wrote:
The hatred of Cooper on this forum genuinely grieves me for the simple reason that he is the manager of our beloved club and we should be supporting him. But I suppose it is easier to write a placard, find your pitchfork and light the burning torches than it is to support someone.

He is called clueless yet has tried more formations and tactics than any manager I can ever remember and the reason probably because of bad errors at the back and poor finishing up front! Not his fault.

People moan that he has got tactics wrong but not praised him when they have gone well e.g. Vale, Posh, Coventry, Walsall away etc. They have moaned when we have not closed out games such as Posh at home, Crewe, Crawley etc. yet forget two things. Firstly the strikers should have put us out of site and secondly teams do up a gear as a rule when they are losing!

Noone has attributted the fact that players like Mass and Kasim are not internationals having been bought from the wilderness of reserve football and conference obscurity - for me our 2 best players along with Nathan and Louis another two players who have moved on in leaps and bounds and those four along with Harley, Branco, possibly Nile will be the backbone of a better side next season hopefully. But if Cooper is to blame for the bad things then is he not responsible for some of the good things this season? Yes we have seen some poor football, but we have also seen some really class and for me one of the best halfs of attacking football since Hoddle, away to Wolves.

the thing is it is all ifs and buts of course it is. However he has been dogged by single mistakes, a stupid sending off or two and an AWOL striker that cost us probably 5 wins which would have put us above the Posh including their games in hand and a trip to Wembley,

We also all know that Nile is easily the best striker in the league, Has Coops not gone out of his way to keep him playing for us? He had him over for Christmas and is repaid by him crashing his car. Imagine the ego dealing with him? There would have been a touchline fight in September!!

Me! I am looking forward to Mk Dons
Good post bearwood. It's hard to see how the manager could do any better with these players. Given the obvious weaknesses, not many of the defeats have been surprising, whereas many of the wins have been real triumphs for Cooper. I just don't like to hear the whining about referees, injuries etc.
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: The hatred of Cooper on this forum genuinely grieves me for the simple reason that he is the manager of our beloved club and we should be supporting him. But I suppose it is easier to write a placard, find your pitchfork and light the burning torches than it is to support someone. He is called clueless yet has tried more formations and tactics than any manager I can ever remember and the reason probably because of bad errors at the back and poor finishing up front! Not his fault. People moan that he has got tactics wrong but not praised him when they have gone well e.g. Vale, Posh, Coventry, Walsall away etc. They have moaned when we have not closed out games such as Posh at home, Crewe, Crawley etc. yet forget two things. Firstly the strikers should have put us out of site and secondly teams do up a gear as a rule when they are losing! Noone has attributted the fact that players like Mass and Kasim are not internationals having been bought from the wilderness of reserve football and conference obscurity - for me our 2 best players along with Nathan and Louis another two players who have moved on in leaps and bounds and those four along with Harley, Branco, possibly Nile will be the backbone of a better side next season hopefully. But if Cooper is to blame for the bad things then is he not responsible for some of the good things this season? Yes we have seen some poor football, but we have also seen some really class and for me one of the best halfs of attacking football since Hoddle, away to Wolves. the thing is it is all ifs and buts of course it is. However he has been dogged by single mistakes, a stupid sending off or two and an AWOL striker that cost us probably 5 wins which would have put us above the Posh including their games in hand and a trip to Wembley, We also all know that Nile is easily the best striker in the league, Has Coops not gone out of his way to keep him playing for us? He had him over for Christmas and is repaid by him crashing his car. Imagine the ego dealing with him? There would have been a touchline fight in September!! Me! I am looking forward to Mk Dons[/p][/quote]Good post bearwood. It's hard to see how the manager could do any better with these players. Given the obvious weaknesses, not many of the defeats have been surprising, whereas many of the wins have been real triumphs for Cooper. I just don't like to hear the whining about referees, injuries etc. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

10:21pm Mon 3 Mar 14

leader1111 says...

A Work in Progress is absolute rubbish given the confirmed information that we will not negotiate with and will get rid of at least half the team this summer, and we will sell our best players to another team (for their success). How can you possibly build a winning team like that? It simply makes no sense.
ManC, Chelsea, etc. certainly get rid of their non performers, but they also keep all their best, and then spend for more super stars. That is the formula for success, not what we propose.
A Work in Progress is absolute rubbish given the confirmed information that we will not negotiate with and will get rid of at least half the team this summer, and we will sell our best players to another team (for their success). How can you possibly build a winning team like that? It simply makes no sense. ManC, Chelsea, etc. certainly get rid of their non performers, but they also keep all their best, and then spend for more super stars. That is the formula for success, not what we propose. leader1111
  • Score: 1

11:07pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

leader1111 wrote:
A Work in Progress is absolute rubbish given the confirmed information that we will not negotiate with and will get rid of at least half the team this summer, and we will sell our best players to another team (for their success). How can you possibly build a winning team like that? It simply makes no sense.
ManC, Chelsea, etc. certainly get rid of their non performers, but they also keep all their best, and then spend for more super stars. That is the formula for success, not what we propose.
Quick question.

How much money do the two clubs you mention have available ?

The salaries of two or three of those clubs top players for probably less than a month will be more than STFC have to spend on wages and transfers for a month.

Love this Collins, Rooney, Smith are carp business and then we are compared with a Chelsea or Man City rebuild. Get a F...king grip on reality.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]leader1111[/bold] wrote: A Work in Progress is absolute rubbish given the confirmed information that we will not negotiate with and will get rid of at least half the team this summer, and we will sell our best players to another team (for their success). How can you possibly build a winning team like that? It simply makes no sense. ManC, Chelsea, etc. certainly get rid of their non performers, but they also keep all their best, and then spend for more super stars. That is the formula for success, not what we propose.[/p][/quote]Quick question. How much money do the two clubs you mention have available ? The salaries of two or three of those clubs top players for probably less than a month will be more than STFC have to spend on wages and transfers for a month. Love this Collins, Rooney, Smith are carp business and then we are compared with a Chelsea or Man City rebuild. Get a F...king grip on reality. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

11:15pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.
With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts.

We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.[/p][/quote]With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts. We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 4

11:18pm Mon 3 Mar 14

The Jockster says...

Bearwood let's not try and beatify Cooper. Yes we all know his leash is only as long as Power lets it out and that some players have limited ability but he's also made a few gaafes! Prioritising the JPT over the league - backfired on both fronts, saying Belford should have saved the Crewe thunderbolt, playing players out of position & not controlling the indiscipline that has led to "Stupid" bookings e.g. McEverly & NT for reckless challenges amongst others.
Bearwood let's not try and beatify Cooper. Yes we all know his leash is only as long as Power lets it out and that some players have limited ability but he's also made a few gaafes! Prioritising the JPT over the league - backfired on both fronts, saying Belford should have saved the Crewe thunderbolt, playing players out of position & not controlling the indiscipline that has led to "Stupid" bookings e.g. McEverly & NT for reckless challenges amongst others. The Jockster
  • Score: -2

11:19pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
leader1111 wrote:
A Work in Progress is absolute rubbish given the confirmed information that we will not negotiate with and will get rid of at least half the team this summer, and we will sell our best players to another team (for their success). How can you possibly build a winning team like that? It simply makes no sense.
ManC, Chelsea, etc. certainly get rid of their non performers, but they also keep all their best, and then spend for more super stars. That is the formula for success, not what we propose.
Quick question.

How much money do the two clubs you mention have available ?

The salaries of two or three of those clubs top players for probably less than a month will be more than STFC have to spend on wages and transfers for a month.

Love this Collins, Rooney, Smith are carp business and then we are compared with a Chelsea or Man City rebuild. Get a F...king grip on reality.

COYMR
Spend for a year.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leader1111[/bold] wrote: A Work in Progress is absolute rubbish given the confirmed information that we will not negotiate with and will get rid of at least half the team this summer, and we will sell our best players to another team (for their success). How can you possibly build a winning team like that? It simply makes no sense. ManC, Chelsea, etc. certainly get rid of their non performers, but they also keep all their best, and then spend for more super stars. That is the formula for success, not what we propose.[/p][/quote]Quick question. How much money do the two clubs you mention have available ? The salaries of two or three of those clubs top players for probably less than a month will be more than STFC have to spend on wages and transfers for a month. Love this Collins, Rooney, Smith are carp business and then we are compared with a Chelsea or Man City rebuild. Get a F...king grip on reality. COYMR[/p][/quote]Spend for a year. Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

11:46pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Oxon-Red says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.
With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts.

We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due.

COYMR
ps watched the stats on BBC that day and remember them vividly. In the first 20 minutes or so Rotherham had 6 attempts and we had one. By full time Rotherham still had 6 attempts but for the final 70 minutes we were lucky !

You were at the game, I wasn't , and maybe it was an exception but why put the result, the performance in the final 70 minutes and STFC down ?

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.[/p][/quote]With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts. We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due. COYMR[/p][/quote]ps watched the stats on BBC that day and remember them vividly. In the first 20 minutes or so Rotherham had 6 attempts and we had one. By full time Rotherham still had 6 attempts but for the final 70 minutes we were lucky ! You were at the game, I wasn't , and maybe it was an exception but why put the result, the performance in the final 70 minutes and STFC down ? COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 3

7:40am Tue 4 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

The Jockster wrote:
Bearwood let's not try and beatify Cooper. Yes we all know his leash is only as long as Power lets it out and that some players have limited ability but he's also made a few gaafes! Prioritising the JPT over the league - backfired on both fronts, saying Belford should have saved the Crewe thunderbolt, playing players out of position & not controlling the indiscipline that has led to "Stupid" bookings e.g. McEverly & NT for reckless challenges amongst others.
Fair enough, although the shocking JPT decision could have been the result of pressure from the Power that be.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Bearwood let's not try and beatify Cooper. Yes we all know his leash is only as long as Power lets it out and that some players have limited ability but he's also made a few gaafes! Prioritising the JPT over the league - backfired on both fronts, saying Belford should have saved the Crewe thunderbolt, playing players out of position & not controlling the indiscipline that has led to "Stupid" bookings e.g. McEverly & NT for reckless challenges amongst others.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, although the shocking JPT decision could have been the result of pressure from the Power that be. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

7:42am Tue 4 Mar 14

stfc4ever!! says...

http://thewashbag.co
m/2014/03/04/tales-f
rom-the-comment-sect
ion/

Haha any thoughts on the above article? Found it quite amusing and relateable myself
http://thewashbag.co m/2014/03/04/tales-f rom-the-comment-sect ion/ Haha any thoughts on the above article? Found it quite amusing and relateable myself stfc4ever!!
  • Score: 0

9:46am Tue 4 Mar 14

Stilloyal says...

dazzastfc wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
ARE LAST 11 GAMES..
WON 2...s/bury port vale
DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew
LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT..............

..
THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33..
SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..?

The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes..

I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS
Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]ARE LAST 11 GAMES.. WON 2...s/bury port vale DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT.............. .. THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33.. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..? The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes.. I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS[/p][/quote]Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink. Stilloyal
  • Score: 2

1:34pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Lunchtime Red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
And 7th in the league.
We are better than a lot of other teams !
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]And 7th in the league. We are better than a lot of other teams ! Lunchtime Red
  • Score: 0

5:18pm Tue 4 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Stilloyal wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
ARE LAST 11 GAMES..
WON 2...s/bury port vale
DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew
LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT..............


..
THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33..
SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..?

The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes..

I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS
Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.
Exactly, it i a poor run no more no less.
Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK are on them as well,so we can count them out of the playoffs then also?
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]ARE LAST 11 GAMES.. WON 2...s/bury port vale DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT.............. .. THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33.. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..? The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes.. I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS[/p][/quote]Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.[/p][/quote]Exactly, it i a poor run no more no less. Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK are on them as well,so we can count them out of the playoffs then also? swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Tue 4 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

Lunchtime Red wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
And 7th in the league.
We are better than a lot of other teams !
To be quite honest lunchtime i agree.
Not the greatest of leagues this year but we are still in it.
We really are missing Ranger though.
We are 7th and having a really poor run of form,so when we get some form back hopefully things will be better.
[quote][p][bold]Lunchtime Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]And 7th in the league. We are better than a lot of other teams ![/p][/quote]To be quite honest lunchtime i agree. Not the greatest of leagues this year but we are still in it. We really are missing Ranger though. We are 7th and having a really poor run of form,so when we get some form back hopefully things will be better. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

5:25pm Tue 4 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.
With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts.

We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due.

COYMR
ps watched the stats on BBC that day and remember them vividly. In the first 20 minutes or so Rotherham had 6 attempts and we had one. By full time Rotherham still had 6 attempts but for the final 70 minutes we were lucky !

You were at the game, I wasn't , and maybe it was an exception but why put the result, the performance in the final 70 minutes and STFC down ?

COYMR
WHY DO YOU Keep ON ABOUT 2 good win ???
The only states you should be worried about are ours...10 points from 33
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.[/p][/quote]With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts. We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due. COYMR[/p][/quote]ps watched the stats on BBC that day and remember them vividly. In the first 20 minutes or so Rotherham had 6 attempts and we had one. By full time Rotherham still had 6 attempts but for the final 70 minutes we were lucky ! You were at the game, I wasn't , and maybe it was an exception but why put the result, the performance in the final 70 minutes and STFC down ? COYMR[/p][/quote]WHY DO YOU Keep ON ABOUT 2 good win ??? The only states you should be worried about are ours...10 points from 33 dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Tue 4 Mar 14

swwindon61uk says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
hertz wrote:
Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce
So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?
Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.
With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts.

We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due.

COYMR
ps watched the stats on BBC that day and remember them vividly. In the first 20 minutes or so Rotherham had 6 attempts and we had one. By full time Rotherham still had 6 attempts but for the final 70 minutes we were lucky !

You were at the game, I wasn't , and maybe it was an exception but why put the result, the performance in the final 70 minutes and STFC down ?

COYMR
WHY DO YOU Keep ON ABOUT 2 good win ???
The only states you should be worried about are ours...10 points from 33
Some that means we got 37 points from the first 69 then?
Don't recall an abundance of posts saying well done .
Being 7th in the League is not all down to poor form!
Yes 10 from 33 is very poor but we still climbed a place in those 11 games!
As i said above if we are still in the mix after such a poor run it can not be a bad thing can it?
Most teams in this league have ebbs and troughs.
As a couple of of us have said where we finish is where we deserve.
Beats the relegation battle i was told by so many we were going to have!
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Top plays bottom Rotheram 6 Notts County 0 , theres the differnce[/p][/quote]So where does Rotherham 0 Swindon Town 4 lie then?[/p][/quote]Where it belongs, Rotherham had an off day and allowed us to play our pretty stuff without closing us down. As we know now that result has proved to be the exception rather than the rule. Seen any of our other away debacles perchance? I can tell you Crewe was a vast improvement on some of those but the old faults were still there - can't finish, can't put a game to bed.[/p][/quote]With this statement you imply that Rotherham are allowed to have an off day but Town aren't, ever. They missed their chances, didn't score and we scored four, off day for Rotherham. No praise for the side that rode the storm and then took full advantage and in the end extracted something from our Yorkshire hosts. We miss chances, we are carp. Opponents miss chances, we take advantage and it is an off day. Happy Clapper or Doom Monger give credit where it is due. COYMR[/p][/quote]ps watched the stats on BBC that day and remember them vividly. In the first 20 minutes or so Rotherham had 6 attempts and we had one. By full time Rotherham still had 6 attempts but for the final 70 minutes we were lucky ! You were at the game, I wasn't , and maybe it was an exception but why put the result, the performance in the final 70 minutes and STFC down ? COYMR[/p][/quote]WHY DO YOU Keep ON ABOUT 2 good win ??? The only states you should be worried about are ours...10 points from 33[/p][/quote]Some that means we got 37 points from the first 69 then? Don't recall an abundance of posts saying well done . Being 7th in the League is not all down to poor form! Yes 10 from 33 is very poor but we still climbed a place in those 11 games! As i said above if we are still in the mix after such a poor run it can not be a bad thing can it? Most teams in this league have ebbs and troughs. As a couple of of us have said where we finish is where we deserve. Beats the relegation battle i was told by so many we were going to have! swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

5:51pm Tue 4 Mar 14

dazzastfc says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
ARE LAST 11 GAMES..
WON 2...s/bury port vale
DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew
LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT..............



..
THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33..
SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..?

The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes..

I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS
Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.
Exactly, it i a poor run no more no less.
Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK are on them as well,so we can count them out of the playoffs then also?
WHO THE OCK CARES ABOUT Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK...
ARE FOOTBALL CLUB IS SWINDON TOWN
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]ARE LAST 11 GAMES.. WON 2...s/bury port vale DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT.............. .. THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33.. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..? The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes.. I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS[/p][/quote]Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.[/p][/quote]Exactly, it i a poor run no more no less. Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK are on them as well,so we can count them out of the playoffs then also?[/p][/quote]WHO THE OCK CARES ABOUT Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK... ARE FOOTBALL CLUB IS SWINDON TOWN dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

7:39pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Steve. Brentford says...

dazzastfc wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.
2 defeats in 8
ARE LAST 11 GAMES..
WON 2...s/bury port vale
DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew
LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT..............




..
THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33..
SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..?

The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes..

I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS
Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.
Exactly, it i a poor run no more no less.
Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK are on them as well,so we can count them out of the playoffs then also?
WHO THE OCK CARES ABOUT Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK...
ARE FOOTBALL CLUB IS SWINDON TOWN
Keep ya hair on son i remember us saying that we would take mid table, i am honest and thought we would be in a relagation fight this season, thats not yet impossible but i do agree its sad that we should be happy with that but thats the way it is looking eh!
Hope you and yours are well Daz and Al.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: 1 Win in 7 keep the good work up Cooperman.[/p][/quote]2 defeats in 8[/p][/quote]ARE LAST 11 GAMES.. WON 2...s/bury port vale DRAWN 5..walsall p/bourgh..Colchester Crawley crew LOST 4 STEVENAGE GILLINGHAM OLDHAM AND ORIENT.............. .. THAT MAKES 10 POINTS FROM 33.. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS..? The points are the only thing that matters in football as points win you prizes.. I expect loads of dislikes for this but SORRY chaps this is the FACTS[/p][/quote]Rock and roll Daz,spot on buddy. We are in poor form 2 wins in 12 ,to get to the play off's we still need to win 10 from 12 and anyone who really believes we will do that that should go see a shrink.[/p][/quote]Exactly, it i a poor run no more no less. Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK are on them as well,so we can count them out of the playoffs then also?[/p][/quote]WHO THE OCK CARES ABOUT Peterbourgh,Walsall and MK... ARE FOOTBALL CLUB IS SWINDON TOWN[/p][/quote]Keep ya hair on son i remember us saying that we would take mid table, i am honest and thought we would be in a relagation fight this season, thats not yet impossible but i do agree its sad that we should be happy with that but thats the way it is looking eh! Hope you and yours are well Daz and Al. Steve. Brentford
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

Get Adobe Flash player
About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree